Mrs Moc,

Thank you for taking the time to keep us up to date.

Many many congratulations on the birth of your little girl. I'm so glad she didn't need to spend any time in the care unit and that you didn't need a blood transfusion or worse.

I hope you are enjoying being at home. Hope your other children like their new little sister and that your DH is looking after you well.

I'm just so pleased that you've made it through this, you have had a really really tough time.

Congrats Hydrangea and well done, im sure your just relieved to have it all over and have your healthy little girl. I know I am lol.

I had my little girl on Tuesday afternoon at 2.35. Weighing 7lb and although I only made it to 36 weeks she didnt need to go to a care unit.

I took another bleed on Monday night and spent the night in Delivery suite refusing to go to theatre because I was convinced the bleeding would eventually ease off as it usually did.

Finally around 11am it slowed to a trickle and arrangements were made for me to go to A ward again. At 11.30 I went for a shower and passed 2 large clots, which would be bigger than my hands, then blood gushed everywhere and I completely freaked out. I initially thought it was the placenta.

It was a very scary experience and I knew I had run out of time. I was taken to theatre and before I knew it, it was all finally over.

My blood is low but thankfully I didnt need the blood transfusion or a hysterectomy. I feel I have been very lucky. My main concern all along was keeping the baby out of the care units and its great that she is here with me in the ward.

Im going home tomorrow, which im still struggling to believe. The doctor asked me this morning did I want to go home tomorrow and I could only nod through the tears.

Its been a very hard time over the last 3 months and certainly enought to put me off pregnancy for life.

Im so glad things worked out well for you as well. Im also struggling with after pains from the CS. Breastfeeding is causing havoc with my uterus but the immense joy this nightmare is finally over is helping me deal with the aftermath.

Glad to know you are well Mrs Moc. Well done on getting to 35 + 5 and the weight of the baby seems quite good.

Well, I went in to be induced and the consultant on duty had a look at my notes and said she wasn't sure that the baby looked growth restricted so she'd do another scan. She also wanted to do a transvaginal scan to check the placenta. She said she didn't believe they could properly place a posterior placenta on a transabdominal scan.

Well, the placenta hadn't moved. It was 16mm from the os and too dangerous to risk a vaginal birth. The baby was also growth restricted. So I was told they would operate that day.

I have my third little girl. She weighed 7lb 1oz.

The ceasarean was better than expected, although I was very emotional and upset about having to have it. I'm struggling with the pain and not being able to do everything I normally would do. The post natal hormones don't help with that either. But at least I can focus on life now rather than my placenta.

Hope you get to 38 weeks Mrs Moc, sounds like it's going to be a big baby!

Hi Everyone

Sorry I havent been on, internet problems, and a dodgy usb port, which is now fixed.

Im still here in hospital and im now 35 + 5 which is amazing in itself. My last bleed was on Thursday night ( 3 nights ago ), I woke up in the usual pool of blood which thankfully has slightly lost its shock factor but still brings all the fear of an em. CS.

Congrats Hydrangea on getting to 38 weeks.

I have a date of the 16th July to aim for a planned CS. The doctors laugh at this though, as I refused to take a date before this.

Im so determined to get to 38 weeks and not need a special cot for the baby.

Im not sure how much longer I can avoid delivery, baby s now weighing in at 6lb 11oz.

Hope it doesn't look like I'm stealing this thread. Just want to keep it up to hopefully hear some news from Mrs Moc.

I had my 38 week scan on Tuesday (23rd). God had answered my prayers and the placenta has moved. In fact it had moved loads so that the sonographer just wrote "no longer low" rather than recording the measurement. I was just hoping for more than 3cm!

However, the consultant wasn't happy with the baby's growth and pointed out that the tummy is heading towards the 10th centile when 6 weeks ago it was on the 50th.
So I'm being induced tomorrow (26th). It was rather a lot to take in on Tuesday! I will be 38/39 weeks. I've never been induced before and have heard it can be long and painful so I'm not looking forward to it. But, I know it is the right thing for the baby.

Hope you're ok Mrs Moc.

Still lurking and worried too... Hope all is well with things at home too.

xxx

MrsMoc

It's been over a week - are you ok?

Dear MrsMoc,

Sorry to hear you are bleeding again.

Posterior placentas, from what I have read, seem to be easier to do a c/s with, but not as good for vaginal delivery. As with an anterior one the head squashes the placenta against the public bone and so stops the bleeding. Whereas with a posterior one everything back there is soft. Which is why the distance only has to be 2cm min for anterior but 3cm min for posterior. Does this match up with your knowledge?

I am hoping the consultant will let me try a vaginal delivery if I make it to 3cm, but I have heard from some it has to be 5cm.

Dear forevermore,

The only information I have from the 20 week scan was that it was covering. When I got home I looked on the internet which said placentas that cover completely hardly every move so I phoned my midwife and asked why I was not told this. She said if that had been the case I would have been put under consultant care straight away. So my guess is that it was overlapping, but not central. I have no idea how much it was overlapping by.

Hi

Thats great news Hydrangea, I hope it moves a bit more and you manage a normal delivery. It sounds a possibility. Well done!!

I had a CS with my first almost 15 years ago and it was scary then, its not the worst experience but im sooo squeamish.

The posterior placenta is situated better than anterior. This is because the posterior lies towards the back and there is less chance of developing placenta accreta, a condition where the placenta can grow into the bladder or an old CS scar. There is also less chance of bleeding with posterior and less chance of it rupturing during the CS.

Anterior placentas are also known to bleed more.

Mine is neither lol. My placenta is evenly placed over the cervix and is attached to the front and rear of the uterus, which is why there is seperation and quite a bit of bleeding.

I've got this information from a mixture of my consultant and other patients so I cant confirm how accurate it is, but my consultant did say its better its not more anterior.

Hope this helps.

BTW, sitting now with a small bleed, feel a little gutted as I have not had any blood in a week.

Does anyone know what is the significance of posterior versus anterior previa?

Lucky you. I think that's a grade one but a c section may still be the only way forward. On the brightside baby is at a great gestation you must be so relieved. What grade where you at 20 weeks? Was it complete Overlying?

Dear forevermore,

I am now 36 weeks weeks. At a 35.5 week scan the placenta was 25mm awway from the internal os. But as it is posterior the minimum is 30mm. So does that make it grade 1?
It was overlapping at 20 weeks and reaching at 32 weeks so I am really pleased that it has moved at all.
I am also very lucky to have had no bleeding whatsoever.
At the moment I am booked in for another scan for 38 weeks and a C/section at 39 weeks which I am praying won't be necessary. I saw a consultant for the first time after the last scan, he wasn't very supportive or helpful and seemed too eager just to give me a c/s.

MrsMoc,
Glad you've reached 33+2 will pray that you get to 36 weeks. I too am petrified of a c/s. I can understand why you are so afraid, I don't know how I'd cope being in your situation. I'm struggling enough in my own much less serious one.

I dont think I will feel out of the woods regarding the LO until I reach 36 weeks. Though im really pleased i've got as far as I have. 34 weeks will be a huge milestone as well.

I think I would have been afraid of a normal CS anyway, but knowing there is likley to be added complications just makes my blood turn cold. Im such a wuss lol.

its funny the c-section is what i fear least whereas you seem to have handled the bleeds so well and that is what i fear the most.

you have done so well to get to 33+2. my nephew was born at 27+3 the same year as my DD who was born at 35+5 and they are as well-developed and naughty as eachother and you'd never know. I think you are out of the woods regarding the welfare of your LO and that must be such a relief. Hang on in there. not long now. I hope i get as far as you.

Im now 33 + 2

My first bleeds were technically at 6 & 8 & 12 weeks, though they were more like a period and Dr's thought it was a threatened miscarriage. My first real bleed, as in pouring out during the night was at 21 weeks and again at 23 weeks & 24 weeks. The longest between bleeds has been 2 weeks.

The consensus here seems to be you are either a bleeder or not and im unfortunate in that.

My scans are good at predicting bleeds and the frequency seems to stem from the seperation I have.

In between the bleeds I have little trickles of red blood or a constant brown loss. Dr's have told me to stop looking for a pattern as there is no rhyme or reason. However before my bleeds I usually pass yellow jelly which I now know is the mucus plug. So this is a good thing to look out for.

At the minute baby is fine and its been 2 weeks since a bleed, but hopefully all this bedrest will keep the bleeding at bay and I have to just hope to get to 37/38 weeks without a bleed which results in delivery.

Im the type that would be in nerves getting a tooth out, so was worried about the CS to begin with. Im worried now that there is a real chance I may not survive the CS or have to have the hysterectomy. I feel petrified of having the CS.

I know that there is nothing I can do about it, and should probably not dwell on the risks, but the idea of this CS now makes feel like im going to puke with nerves.

The consultant said she had to go through these risks with me especially because my placenta has been so badly behaved and it will be less traumatic for me if I prepare myself now for being in an emergency situation.

I think the fact you havent had a bleed yet at 26 weeks is a really good sign that you may be one of the ones that never bleed. I really hope this continues to be the case for you.

i would be freaked out too, but hey there are risks everytime you start the engine of a car. i think you have to rationalise that in this day and age this is very unlikely and this will not take the surgeon by surprise which used to be the case and I am sure why the outcome wasn't always favourable.

on the bright side the baby is still thriving inside you which is great, especially considering how many bleeds you've had. How far along are you now? has the bleeding stopped yet? are you keeping your spirits up otherwise.

I am 26 weeks (and seem to count every hour that goes by) and waiting for first bleed (secretly hoping i am one of the lucky ones but no where near believing it could be so, seems like more chance of winning the lottery ). Have you any idea when the first bleeds are most likely to occur?

Okay so im not having such a good day and feel really scared. My consultant came round to see me today and wanted to talk me through the risks of my CS. She said there was a possibility of needing a hysterectomy if bleeding was heavy during CS and said she had to let me know about the risk of death as well.

I suppose it makes sense that the placenta will bleed during the CS and the risks come if the bleeding doesnt stop. Im so freaked out right now.

Hi PD

Thanks for your story. Strange that, most of my bleeds happen in the middle of the night as well, I've had a few bleeds start during the day but they are usually lighter.

I also had an episode of heavy bleeding for over 3 hours and refused to let them deliver when I was at 30 weeks. Looking back I can see that I was playing with fire, they give me another 1/2 hour and thankfully the bleeding started to ease off but didnt stop for another 12 hours.

I have never felt ill or sick with this at all. I have been scared and have been in bad shock when bleeding heavy with lots of clots and waiting on an ambulance. I was shaking so bad I couldnt speak and felt so cold DH ran and got me a blanket. I realised later it was shock.

My placenta has already started seperating, the doctors dont seem very positive here, but I feel the oppostite especially since its been a while now since I have had any bleeding. Im just so bored.

Lol at the bubbly, unfortunately I dont think DH could be trusted to go pick up any bubbly lol.

Angela, good morning,

Having internet access and a facility to play DVDs saved my sanity, so much recommended to all you ladies with a potentially/hopefully lengthy hospital stay ahead of you! My DH also occasionally smuggled a piccolo of bubbly onto the ward...

I came VERY close to being delivered at 25+6 weeks, so 31+4 seemed positively phantastic at the time ! Mind you, I only realised that things were serious when I was in the ambulance being transferred to another hospital because "my" hospital did not have any neonatal ITU cots available that night. All I could think was "I am NOT having a baby tonight, what are they thinking, I am only 25 weeks!". Rational thought had really gone out the window a bit. Also the fact that I had 3 consultants in my room at 3am on a Sunday was not a v good sign... Anyway, that bleed stopped, I had another couple big ones that lasted a few hours, but always settled. They always started in the middle of the night with me flat on my back in bed, never when I was up and about. The last one started @midnight and had not stopped by 6am when I was advised to have the baby delivered, but refused, silly cow that I am. Bleed continued and @ midday I felt v peculiar, different from before. I had an emergency but not crash section and it turns out the placenta had just started separating. So we were very very lucky. I still feel sick when I think about it. Should have had the section at 6.

Anyway, all's well that ends well. My biggest problem with DS2 now is his cheek , so like I said, v v lucky and v v grateful.

BTW, my other 2 successful pregnancies both went to over 42 weeks... funny, isn't it?

Have a good day, PD x.

Im accessing the internet wth mobile broadband and a dongle ( something which goes into a usb port and is a mobile modem )

I would strongly recommend a laptop as well as the internet, as you can play dvd's.

Hopefully you stay out though and dont need it.

I haven't had any more injections as I think you only get the steroids twice, which I've had. Thankfully I havent had any contractions either, although my cervix is open.

One thing I have noticed is I usually lose my mucus plug before a bleed, not much use in the middle of the night, but handy in the day as it can help ease the shock factor when the blood starts flowing.

Thanks for your story Pacific, its good to hear about the success stories and your story is so nice it brought tears to my eyes, what happened at 31 + 4 that you delivered? What I mean is, was it too big a bleed, too much blood loss over time, early labour ?

Although im determined to get to 38 weeks, im so aware this pregnancy could end tonight through no fault of my own and its scary.

I have another scan tomorrow. Im hoping the seperation will have healed again, or if theres a bleed coming I will at least have a warning. I know I wont get home now until the baby's born.

Angela xx

MrsMoc, I have been lurking on this thread on and off and just wanted to wish you and BabyMoc good luck.
Hope you do not go out of your mind with boredom on the antenatal ward and that a healthy baby will ensue - in 6 weeks time !

I had grade 4 PP with DS2, first big bleed at 25 weeks, in hospital from then on, delivered at 31+4, he spent 5 weeks in SCBU and is now a strapping 5 year old with plans to play rugby for Scotland . He is now v v proud that he once was "the smallest baby in the world" which is a phrase I may have used once or twice .. He was 1710g, BTW.

So, seeing as you have reached 32 weeks, all ought to be well.

Lots of luck to you, and all the other ladies here.

BTW Hydrangea how far along are you and what grade PP have you got? have you had any 'episodes'?

great to hear from you, i was really quite worried. You have given me lots of hope and i am keeping everything crossed not to bleed but there is hope if i do which is nice to hear. have you had any medications (steroid injections anything to stop contractions?) also how are you accessing internet? I haven't been in hospital for more than a day or two before so didn't need to but wanting to get as much info as poss just in case (should i pack my laptop in hospital bag)

Hi all

I wasn't sure if anyone was still following or not, but im happy to give an update and wish you both lots of luck with your PP.

Im now 32 + 4, which is good as I was originally told I would not get to 32 weeks.

They still want me to get to 34 weeks, but im determined to get to 38 lol purely on positive thinking. I really want my baby to be with me after she is born, im not sure I would cope too well with SCBU.

The antenatal ward is incredibly boring and the routine is enough to drive you nuts. I have started to make a christening robe for the LO which is helping to pass the time. I have spent the best part of the last 9 weeks here with another possible 6 to go.

I know its posssible to have this and have no bleeds and I sincerely hope you both will prove to be the lucky ones and stay out of hospital.

I have little trickles now and then but nothing heavy since the last bleed I mentioned, it may be all the bedrest lol.

DH is also behaving (I think) he visits twice a day, including first thing in the morning so I can see for myself if he is fresh and bright.

Angela xx

I too wish to keep this thread going. Placenta previa grade IV here. 25+4 and counting. No bleeds so far but for how long? Hope your well mrsmoc

Hi Mrs Moc,

Just noticed your thread is about to disappear off the end of the list. I have been following it for a while, as I have placenta previa also. How many weeks are you now? Hope hospital's not too bad. Keep us up to date on what's going on.

Hi Cazza

I know, I had problems finding the thread a few times as well. Its nice to hear from you again. I hope Lyns is ok as well, as there has been nothing from her.

My scan on Tuesday showed a tear in the placenta and my cervix had opened 1cm, also seen a pool of blood and some clots, so I had to be readmitted.

As it turned out I took a bleed late on Tuesday night and was very thankful to be in hospital as I avoided the stress and panic of another ambulance.

DH is much easier to talk to once he has had a chance to get the alcohol out of his system. Its a bit like dealing with Jekyll and Hyde.

I sort of believe and hope this time he will stay off it as there is so many people watching him now, that I made sure it was all out in the open. It wouldn't be so easy to hide. The agreement we came to was that he would be at the hospital every morning at 8.00 am so I could see if he had been drinking.

I still feel deep down he has done some serious damage to the marriage this time though. Im staying in hospital now till the baby is born and doctors think i will be lucky to reach 34 weeks, but im praying for a bit longer.

Hello Angela...

Sorry its taken me a while I've had so much going on the last few days (and the thread dissappeared somehow)??....

How are things going for you? Obviously being back in hospital is probably a MASSIVE step back for you but must make it a little easier to sleep?!

Hoe are things with DH? I would imagine this is clearly putting a strain on things. Let me know how you are and how your feeling...

So sorry I haven't managed to get on... Have been praying for you. Also I think lots of people I know all over the world have too!!
Will carry on praying for you and sending you positive thoughts...

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Not sure if anyone is following my thread anymore, but Im being readmitted today. I had my scan at 3pm, and was given 2 hours to go home and collect my things( after much arguement)

Just waiting now on DH coming to give me a lift

Hope your ok Lyns xx

I've had another boring day housebound and mostly in bed, seems to be helping though as I only had 2 little trickles of bleeding in the last 24 hours.

It will be my Birthday on Wednesday, im hoping to get that by me before anything else happens.

Keep safe xx

Hi Cazza

I think his behaviour has been disgusting, he usually takes the "attack is the best form of defence" route.

I spoke to him some more yesterday and explained his attitude on top of everything else is just too much to forgive or cope with right now. I pointed out he didnt really have much to be angry with me about.

As an active alcoholic he deludes himself, he tells so many lies I think he believes them himself.

On the other hand he had been sober 17 months prior to this with a few slips in between. The pregnancy was planned and he is a completely different person when he does not have drink in his system. I know he will look back on this week horrified in a few days time. He is normally loving, caring and fair, however empathy would not be a strong point.

His attitude is already changing, he's apologised and offering to do things, being nice and asking if im ok. I still can't bear to speak to him. I just cant see the relationship recovering, I feel so badly let down.

As far as the bleeding, I have had a few red trickles this morning. Im im bed now and will be staying here. No going out today. Im just waiting to see if the bleeding is going to get heavy in which case I will go to hospital. The uncertainty is enough to drive you insane.

Im not used to the trickles so im not sure if its a sign of a big bleed coming. Usually they start in the night when im sleeping, so im not sure if it starts slowly. I've only had 3 small trickles in the last 4 hours.

I hope everything is still fine with you Lyns.

Oh god how cheeky of him!!!! I can't believe he is being like this towards you. Maybe your right and he doesn't know how to deal with the situation... Its so very very sad that you obviously both feel like your marriage won't last.

Can I ask was everything ok for you both before this pregnancy?? Was it planned?? How would you both feel about counselling together? When I was admitted to hospital at 29 weeks my husband and I found it very difficult to communicate. We just couldn't understand each others pressures and worries... I remember clearly him saying to me that it was hard for him and our then 2 year old son as I had been taken away from them... I then said ok Im trying to understand but please remember everything has been taken away from me...

It put a massive strain on our marriage and I eventually had to see a psychiatrist. My pregnancy was unplanned... Even though we were happily married. I went through so much with our first son that I didnt want to go through it all again...
We have had counselling since the birth of DD2.
I cant help but feel bad that you and your DH cant get through this...

Still praying for you and hoping that god sweeps you up and carries you through this time in your life...

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Hi Lyns

Good to hear from you, im so sorry you had more bleeding, at least they were small though.

I do have a plan in place though I have now little faith in these plans as the seem to keep changing.

I will be staying out until my next bleed, or 34 weeks or I may get readmitted during one of my weekly scans. The hospital expect me to bleed again and soon.

Each bleed seems to be heavier and last longer, and I will spend any time bleeding in the delivery suite incase they need to deliver. The aim is to get to 36 - 38 weeks.

I have put in place arrangements for the kids to be at my mums and MIL's when im next in hospital.

I have tried talking to DH but he just thinks im over reacting.

I really hope you manage to stay out of hopsital and keep to your plan Lyns.

Hello Angela, sorry I disappeared. I was back in hospital Sunday night, two bleeds at 9pm and 4am - the smallest I've had so far but was kept in for observation 'til yesterday.

I have a few things to say and ask which I hope you don't mind, as what I've read has got me worried. Now that you're at home you are not feeling the safety net of the hospital so it's not suprising that you are worried sick waiting for the next bleed. This is what I felt like when I got out last time so I know how you feel on that one. Since you discharged yourself though, you must be feeling even more worried as the hospital haven't condoned your leaving.

And the added stress of having to deal with your DH - it's the last thing you need at a time like this. Is there any way that your or DHs mum can have the kids so you can stay in hospital without having to worry about what's happening with the kids under his care ? These next few weeks are vital for your LO - but in the the grand scheme of things it's only a few weeks. Just take it day by day to get through - you and your LO are priority and if your DH can't see that, you are best staying away from him. Hospital really sounds like the best place, not just for the LO, but for you as well. I am well aware though that as I don't have kids it's easy for me to say this. Especially when going back to your post on Sunday it sounds as though you are worried about DHs mum taking over a little.

On the PP side of things, has your consultant laid out a 'plan' for you? My consultant has and it's this - Each time I bleed I am to go in to hospital and won't be let out until the hosp have observed me to be bleed free for 48 hours. If I lose more than 400ml of blood or if I trickle blood over a long period then an emergency c-section may be considered (my guess is that as you have continued to trickle, that's why they are keen to keep you in). Obviously if there's a catastrophic bleed then an EMC is inevitable. If possible I will be managed as an outpatient for the next few weeks. If I can get to 34-36 weeks I may have a 'semi-planned' section if I have a big bleed around this time, but otherwise the baby is to be delivered by c-section at 38 weeks- July 7th to be exact.

Now that I have this plan I feel much more confident - well for the time being anyway! I know it could all be turned on it's head. I just think that you deserve to have this as well, but it doesn't sound as though you are getting it.

Take care. Sending positive thoughts your way.

lyns x

Well I had another crappy nights sleep, I seem to have a panic come over me at night worrying that I wll wake up bleeding.

My last bleed had lots of clots, which I passed in the toilet, I keep remembering the sensation of them.

Also had a horrible row with my soon to be ex husband.

He doesnt seem to acknowledge what im going through or how I feel.

I know he understands how serious it is, but I dont think he has stopped to think, maybe im not dealing with it very well. I dont understand how he can give me all the extra grief on top of the pressure im already feeling.

I really dont think our marriage will survive this.

His lack of support is bad enough but to add to an already stressful time is just to much.

And he had the blatant cheek to tell me last night he wants a divorce lol.

My plan for today is to stop crying, pull myself together and start thinking positively. Im going to go back to alanon as well.

Hi Cazza

Im fine, I have been out most of the day trying to catch up on things and took DD to the dentist. I also went with my mum and other DD to get our groceries.

I know I shouldn't be doing any of these things but the alternative would have been to stay in the house with DH who I cannot bear to even look at.

So far I refuse to even speak to him!!!

I had a horrible night last night and found it hard to sleep, I dont have the confidence I had the last time I got home. At one stage I thought I was taking another bleed when I felt alot of liquid run out of me, but it was pink rather than bright red and was a one off. I have a continious brown loss which I was told was normal but still freaks me out.

I have had a minimum of conversation with DH, who feels that I am over reacting regarding his drinking.

I feel so cross, Im consoling myself with thoughts of leaving him for good when this nightmare is over, I feel so let down.

Im going to have an early night tonight with my book, as I have barely slept the last 2 nights.

I hope things are well with you and your family.

Im trying to hold it together but constantly feel on the verge of tears.

Angela xx

Hello Angela...

How are you feeling today? Sorry I haven't been on all day work is so busy at the moment and my boys just seem to run riot when were home!!!

Anyway... To be honest I was hoping to see something from you on here today ...
I hope your ok??? I'm very worried and praying your ok. I haven't stopped thinking about you all day. I spoke to my DH about the situation too... He can't believe what your going through...

Please let me know your ok?? Take care xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Take care of yourself... I'll check on here tomorrow to see how you are xxxx

DH is upstairs snoring, so looks like the sofa for me tonight. Im keeping the phone with me at all times. If I bleed in the night and DH is not here, I will phone an ambulance and then waken DD to keep an eye on things till my mum gets here.

The next time im in hospital if DH is not in AA then the kids will be staying with my mum.

Thank you fo the prayers, they mean alot. xx

Oh bless you... I've just sent a mail to everyone to pray for you...
I don't know anyone else who needs a miracle more than you right now Angela.
I hope you get it too...

where is DH now?? is he still upstairs? I know how frightened you must be. Just keep that phone by you al the time so you can call 999 quick. Is your mum going to be there in the nightime too?? (just in case something happens with DH)
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I know what im doing is risky but I dont feel I have much choice. Im also feeling so confused and upset atm im not really sure I even know what im doing.

I know I will take another bleed, I can sense it I think. I dont live far from the hospital.

Im hoping DH sorts himself out soon.

Im going to be spending everyday with my mum, and in the evenings if anything happens I will phone an ambulance.

TBH im terrified now, the last bleed was heavy and I dont fancy another which may be heavier again.

Oh mrsmoc... What a crappy crappy day you've had....

Thats not good at all. Worst of all your DH drinking and 2nd you've signed yourself out of hospital.
Have you spoken to the consultant about your home situation...???
This may sound completely out of line and please tell me if I am... Mrsmoc I know the siutation in your home life is an absolute nightmare with your DH's drinking and you want to be at home looking after the other children and your home. But the condition you have is so lifethreatening if you started to bleed heavily...
The placenta pumps around a litre of blood a minute... We have 7 litres in our body... Do you see what I'm trying to say??? Yes you may not bleed again but as you have had a few already the chances of it happening again are quite high. The more bleeds you have the heavier they generally get.
Please think about yourself and if it really is worth being at home...
I really do understand your dilema... I wish that I could do something or say something more helpful to you. the next few weeks seem like an impossible amount of time.

I cant seem to find the right words for you hun and Im so sorry that you are going through this... Its just not fair...

Is there any way you can maybe stay with your mum or anyone coming over to talk to him for you??? xxxxx

Well im home, though its not in good circumstances.

DD phoned late last night to say DH was drinking.

Consultant seen me today and said I couldn't go home.

So basically signed myself out of hospital and told DH to get lost.

He disappeared for an hour and came back smelling of drink, but not drunk and is upstairs refusing to go anywhere.

Im feeling so stressed atm.

Just got kids bathed and sent to bed and trying to relax on the sofa.

Hopefully tomorrow is a better day and the prayers start kicking in, the last thing I need now is another bleed.

My mum and MIL have said they will mind the kids between them.

I know I really need DH here but he's no use to me if he's drinking, I really wish he would just go!!

Well good news again Mrsmoc...
Lets hope the consultant will let you go. I remember having a very similar conversation with my consultant when I was in... Funny how they can backtrack very quickly!

You cannot blame yourself for bleeding either Mrsmoc. If its going to happen then it will happen. You can do the best you can to relax and rest but it is not anything you can control...
Glad that you and DH had a chat bout the drinking thing. I really hope he can keep to his word about it being a one off...

Thinking of you all the time and praying every day xxxxxxx

Well my scan was good, no sign of seperation and baby is now head down which may have sparked the bleed. There is apparently no way of knowing though as I keep thinking "what did I do wrong"

Bumped into the consultant on her way home who then denied all knowledge of telling me I could go home, she insists she said "we'll see". She has agreed to come see me in the morning and discuss it.

I feel pretty confident I will be going home tomorrow night, I can be demanding when I need to be lol.

Cool will be thinking of you today... Hoping that the scan goes ok.
Its always worthwhile going home even if its for a few days and going back... Its the worst thing in the world to not go back for a long period of time.

Will check later on xxx

Hi Cazza, good to hear from you again.

I have just spoken to the conultant who has said if the scan is good then I may be able to go home in a couple of days. She also said it may not be worth my while, as I will likely be back quite soon.

Its hard to know though if im just being fobbed off again, I noticed she didnt write that down in my notes.

I will update later afer my scan.

Just thought I would catch up to see how your doing Mrsmoc and Im gutted to read that you've had a bleed...
Missing your DD's Holy communion must be awful...
I can't believe your having this awful luck (good that you kept LO in there though...

Will be back later just gotta bath the boys xx

Hi Lyns

Im seeing my consultant in the morning and will be having a scan tomorrow as well, hopefully that will provide the basis for me getting out. I guess I have it in my head that I was told I could stay home till 34 weeks, I know the bleed probably changes all that but im still going to argue my case.

My DD came down to visit me, which left me a bit tearful, she was beautiful. I felt robbed of my role in preparing and helping her dress for today but my MIL took over (as usual) I know I should be grateful to her but she has been trying to take over this day before I was even diagnosed with MPP, so I cant help feeling a bit bitter.

On another note, DH has been visiting and he doesn't seem to have been drinking the night before which is a huge relief. I have told him if I suspect he has been drinking, I will walk straight out of here, hopefully thats enough to make him think twice if he's tempted.

My bleeds seem to last 24 hours before turning to brown staining. Im still trickling bright red, though its less frequent.

I thought I was going to have the catastrophic bleed on Friday night, it was really heavy to begin with.

I have witnessed a catastrophic bleed on my last stay here. A girl due the day after me took a massive bleed and was in the ward at the time, she lost 4.5 litres of blood, had 4 blood transfusions and had a CS at 25 weeks, baby was 1 lb 4 oz. We had made good friends before this happened we and still keep in touch.

Doctors told me not to worry too much as things like that happened once every 5 years. It still left me feeling haunted.

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for us both.

Angela xx

Morning MrsMoc, how are thing today? Thinking of you missing your daughter's holy communion this morning and sending positive thoughts your way.

I was told the same thing by my consultant - expect the bleeds to become more frequent and heavier but I've been out 9 days now and nothing so far so fingers x-ed.

No, you won't be going anywhere if you're still trickling. I think the only way I managed to get out each time was because the bleeds cleared up fairly fast, by the morning after I didn't have anything coming out on pads, only when I wiped. (1st time I lost 2 blood clots the size of pencil cases, 2nd bleed I lost mostly blood - around 225ml).Have been told to expect to be kept in for longer next time and to be prepared to receive an invitation (how nice!) to stay in for the duration towwards the end, even if I don't experience more bleeds. I think it depends on your consultant as another lady with MPP in my hospital was kept in for 1 week, let out for 1 week before she bled again, kept in for another 2 weeks and then delivered by planned c-section at 34 weeks. There's another case study for your collection

10 minutes isn't too bad at all, although if you were to have the dreaded 'catastrophic' bleed which I've read can happen then I can see why the hospital staff are putting pressure on you to stay, not just for the baby's sake, but for yours too. Guilt tripping just isn't on though, you have enough on your plate without being made to feel guilty. Each doctor/midwife/nurse will have a different opinion on how long you should be kept in -it's what your consultant says that is important. Do you know when you are next going to see him/her?

Thanks Lyns for your post, I have spoke to a Dr who has said there is no way im going home, she reckons each bleed will most likely be heavier than the last and the risk would be too high.

They are very good at putting you on a guilt trip here, asking me to think of the baby before making any decisions.

I have agreed to stay put for a few days at least, Im having a scan on Monday/Tuesday. I am still bleeding now though its only a trickle at the moment, but this totally takes away any negotiation im trying to make at the moment. My thoughts are I got here safely last night, I only live 10 minutes away, and I really need to be at home. I could be here weeks without another bleed as well.

I know the ticking timebomb feeling, sometimes I feel like a car crash waiting to happen and its scary. Im surprised they have allowed you home after 2 bleeds, I had to fight to get home last time and even then it was because I lived close and was more for my mental health than anything else.

I really hope you are one of the lucky ones Lyns and have no more bleeds, it does happen for some. I think I have read every piece of literature and case stories the internet offers on this subject.

Hello MrsMoc just wanted to say that although you are feeling down at the moment, remember to pat yourself on the back for holding on to your little one for another night and avoiding the emergency c-section. You've made it through the night and you're off the labour ward, so you are back under obs and out of immediate danger for now x Your plan may be to go home as soon as the bleeding stops, but apparently the risk of another big bleed wthin 48 hours of the first is very high, so if you can, please stay put for a couple of days.

I really feel for you missing your little girl's holy communion tomorrow and you must be so unhappy at the thought that you might be in for the duration now, although you're hoping that's not the case I know. I found Rek's thread last week and have seen your posts there and on the other PP thread.

I'm Grade 4 Major Placenta Praevia, 30+5, have been hospitalised twice so far with bleeds - at 27+5 and at 29wks for 3 days at a time. I've been told I could bleed again at any time. I can share in the uncertainty you are feeling although I'm 'safe' for the time being at home (felt safer in hospital tbh) I'm a ticking time bomb.

Unlike you I don't have any kids at home though, nor do I have the difficulties you're facing with your DH.

I think it was a great suggestion Cazzaben for MrsMoc to set up her own thread, as she is clearly in a very troublesome place at the moment.

Will be following your posts to see how you are getting on and rooting for you and litteMoc. xxxx Lyns

Well looks like things aren't so good. I took a bad bleed last night at 3 in the morning and took an ambulance to hospital. I was kept in the delivery suite until 12 today and im now back in the antenatal ward. I've been told im here for the duration, though i've been told that before.

I feel gutted, I didnt see this coming and was becoming a little confident that things would be okay. I seemed to lose a lot of blood last night, but it eased off around 6. I thought they were going to have to do an em. CS.

My little girl is making her first holy communion tomorrow morning, which I will now miss, but I have to be thankful this LO was not delivered last night.

Im feeling devastated though as everything is so unsure again.

Hi Cazza

Now that i have calmed down with regards to finding the vodka bottle, I can understand and appreciate he was very stressed at the time. While I was in hospital our 8 YO daughter was also rushed into hospital with a perforated appendix. She had the operation to have them removed and then spent 3 days after her operation deteriorating and developed a bowel problem. All of this sorted itself out and she was home after 10 days. He says around this time he began drinking to cope with the stress.

While I can understand his point, he cant turn to drink at every problem, not when he has children to put first.

I cant tell him to go to AA, that needs to be his decision, I do sometimes go to alanon though I had hoped this problem was settling down. I now im lucky with a very supportive family and he has came a long way from the days he drank round the clock.

I can understand how hard it must have been to eave your 2 YO, I found it so difficult to leave my 16 MO.

The Dr's felt that my scan on Tuesday indicated blood loss was unlikely between now and 34 weeks, after that it will depend on the scans, which I have now every week.

Im not going to worry about being readmitted at 34 weeks just yet, I have a possible 5 weeks at home which I am going to make the most of and enjoy.

The threat of massive bleeding/dying is hanging over my head though and I am having nightmares every night. I try not to think about it but in my head I constantly seem to be reliving/analysing all the things the dr's have said, as if im trying to make sense of it all.

Hi Mrsmoc hope you had a good day...

Sounds like you have got a good support network around you. Thats always a positive thing. I guess 14 years is a long time to have something like alcoholism. Have you suggested going back to AA? This is a very trying time for a family without all that pressure. Its such a shame that this has made him turn back to drinking.
Also a good thing that your 14yr old will be able to see if anything is going on when your not around.

Im a very lucky MPP sufferer I went into hospital at 29 weeks after a big bleed and stayed in til the end. Leaving my 2yr old at home It didnt move at all and I had an elective section at 38+3. I had a GA too which wasn't nice but considering they had to cut through the placenta to get him out it went well. I lost only 1 litre of blood during my section I think my worst memory was having the drains removed from either side of my scar. If that ever happens to you ask for the Gas and air!!!! I had so many people praying for me and I do believe that someone was looking after me!!
I'll pray that you have no more bleeding and you only have to be in hospital for as short a time as possible...

Take care xxxxxxxx

Thanks Cazza, all prayers are greatly appreciated at the moment lol.

DH has been battling with alcohol the 14 years I have been with him. He has tried rehabs & AA, but as soon as he is sober a while he doesn't feel the need to keep getting their support. Something I believe indicates this problem will never really go away.

It turned out he had been drinking quite a lot of beer when the kids were in bed and holding it together during the day. When I unexpectedly got out of hospital, he tried to wean himself off by drinking a glass or 2 of vodka at night while I was sleeping.

Communication broke down between us after I discovered this and we have only started speaking to each other again since yesterday.

I think he was happier sleeping on the sofa so he could still maintain some drinking. He is incapable of being honest about anything regarding alcohol.

Both our mums live within 5 minutes and help out loads during the day, I think his main problem is at night and he is under the illusion he can control it.

It certainly will make things difficult if and when I beed again, as there is no way im allowing him to drink around our children.

We have talked about this yesterday and I heard all the familiar promises which I have no faith in, so im unsure how things will go. Our eldest is 14 and would know if he was drinking, and hopefully keep an eye on things and contact my mum if needed.

Im sorry you also went through the MPP, how did yours turn out in the end? The uncertainty with this condition is so frustrating.

Oh and by the way... I know that there is a god up there looking after you

I will pray for you and put you on the prayer lists where I am xxxxxxxx

Mrsmoc... Thanks for setting up your own thread... Just means things won't get bypassed if you know what I mean!!! It also means that you can write here whenever you want and rant and rave or ask advice or just get things off your chest. Sorry if i being too personal but when I read your post I felt compelled to talk to you.
Good news the separation has fixed itself. Not so good bout the MPP . I know how you feel I went through it in 2007-2008. DS2 was born 16th April 2008 I spent 3 months in hospital... anyway

This must be a really terrifying time for you. Having such an awful pregnancy complication and having your DH's alcohol relapse. Was he just drinking for that short time while you were in hospital? or have you noticed that he's been drinking since you've been home.

Can I ask do you have any family around that could help you out?? From experience I know my DH really struggled while I was in hospital. I believe they need lots of support I can understand why he would turn to what would be his vice in such complicated circumstances.
On the other hand here you are trying to be mum and wife and pregnant lady with problems.
Can I ask how did DH get help the first time?? Did he go through the GP or through a rehab programme?? Does he still get support??
I guess I'm just worried that if you end up in hospital again then he'll turn back to drinking...
Keep posting mrsmoc take care and look after yourself xxxxxxx

Hi Cazza

Setting up my own thread as you have suggested ** Thanks **

Things are looking up a little for me.

I have reached 29 weeks today and Dr's think the scans have shown an improvement.

I still have major placenta previa and there is no hope of the placenta moving, but the seperation I had has now healed.

The baby is lying transverse which is good also as there is no pressure on the placenta.

The plan is still to hopefuly have me at home until 34 weeks then readmit me to the antenatal ward.

As you now from previous threads, my DH who is a recovering alcoholic was drinking while I was in hospital when he was minding the 3 other kids we have.

He has since sworn that this wont happen again, but I would never trust his word on this.

My own personal plan is only to go into hospital if I bleed and to go home as soon as bleeding stops.

Of course I have no way of knowing what will happen with my pregnancy, but im trying to be positive, follow the Dr's orders and pray there is a god up there who will look after us all.