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Piles! - Oh the shame!

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Mahoosivemamma · 07/11/2004 23:08

Hi all, returned home after a rather stressful and busy day to discover I have piles (why have I not noticed this before?!) and one of them was bleeding quite heavily. Without meaning to be crude, the blood definitely seemed to be coming from the back end only, if you catch my drift, but was still quite worrying for a while. Is this the sort of thing that I should mention to my midwife or just another hidden joy of pregnancy? - sorry for having to bring this up but it isn't the sort of thing I feel able to talk to others face to face about!

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MrsMiaWallace · 07/11/2004 23:10

dp had piles and started to bleed, he had to go to hosp to get checked out so would definatly go to gp a least.

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chimpie · 07/11/2004 23:14

I got piles from pushing dd out, they still bleed now 3 mths later but all you can do is get cream or suppositories, try lactulose solution from GP to make stools softer (grim I know)

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mothernature · 07/11/2004 23:27

Poor you - my advice use ice cubes, they need to shrink before they can be pushed back inside, horrible things - glad I don't get them anymore - very, very painful if 'down' for long. I don't envy you at this time - ouch...

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chimpie · 07/11/2004 23:45

Sorry if I sound ignorant but can they go back up?!!!! Help me please if they can!

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chimpie · 07/11/2004 23:50

Sorry if I sound ignorant but can they go back up?!!!! Help me please if they can!

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fefifofum · 07/11/2004 23:58

Poor you, I know exactly how you feel - I had them for my final couple of months pregnant. I have to tell you that they will probably get worse before they get better, mine were unbelievably big post delivery, but then once all the weight has gone, i.e. baby, they slowly start to shrink and I don't notice them anymore (7 months on). Nobody tells you about them, do they??!!

What you can do is have hot baths - called 'spritz' baths - with epsom salts (just a shallow bath will do, enough to cover your, ahem, undercarriage) as this supposedly helps to shrink them. Then head to the chemist and buy some anusol (grim name, I know ) and apply a few times a day. Good luck.

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jabberwocky · 08/11/2004 00:01

I had them in the most awful way throughout most of my pregnancy. Used ice packs to soothe and yes, after things have calmed down a bit you can gently push them back in. Of course, that doesn't mean they will stay in...

When they are at their worst, it can be helpful to use baby wipes when you go to the bathroom as that area is sooo sensitive.

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fefifofum · 08/11/2004 00:02

Forgot to say that my dh has a charming theory about a warm spoon being just the ticket for pushing them back up - not tried it myself. However, oh my, getting really personal now, you can just push gently with soapy fingers whilst in the shower.

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chimpie · 08/11/2004 00:03

Thanks fefifofum, I have the creams just hate inserting things ifykwim, but will persist. My dh didn't see mine pop out but a friend said her dh said it was like looking at a volcano erupting from her bum eurgggghhh!!!! (this is during labour, not every day life of course!)

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chimpie · 08/11/2004 00:05

how on earth did your dh discover that trick?

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80sMum · 08/11/2004 00:06

Ah, one of the many joys of motherhood that no-one tells you about! I sympathise. I also pushed a bit too hard while giving birth to DD, and have had piles on and off ever since (it was 21 years ago). Eat a fibre-rich diet, never ever strain to 'go' and use creams etc to keep things under control.

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chimpie · 08/11/2004 00:09

Thanks!

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fefifofum · 08/11/2004 00:12

He says he heard an old geezer say it once, but I wonder...! I wouldn't turn my back whilst naked on my husband for a while post delivery because I was convinced that they'd be peeping out!

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chimpie · 08/11/2004 00:14

I had to send my husband out of the room when it came to pushing cos I was scared he would see me pooing, never mind the other delights he could have been witness to

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chimpie · 08/11/2004 00:15

we still haven't reached that post partum intimacy yet for him to see my bulging blueberries

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fefifofum · 08/11/2004 00:19

lol chimpie. O the pooing. What a grubby experience it all is? I wish to god I'd had an emema first, I was induced so I had time. I'll know for next time I suppose. Next time?

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chimpie · 08/11/2004 00:26

Hope so, It is all an enriching experience and I wear it like a badge of honour if that makes sense, might not be the sexy goddess I used to be (was I ever) but I am a baby bearing goddess and doesn't that feel good to all you other baby bearing goddesss out there? dignity? pah!! who needs it when you have that little munchkin there who is worth everything (corny, but in that luvved up mode)

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Mahoosivemamma · 08/11/2004 10:05

Thanks for all your advice girls! I'm rather panicked as I haven't even had ds or dd yet and still have piles - OMG what is going to happen in the delivery??!!!!

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mothernature · 08/11/2004 10:13

What are hemorrhoids?
Hemorrhoids are varicose veins ? that is, blood vessels that have become unusually swollen ? that show up in the rectal area. Sometimes the enlarged veins can protrude through the anus; you'll be able to feel a soft, swollen mass near your rectum when this happens. They're generally anywhere from the size of a raisin to a grape. Hemorrhoids can be merely itchy or downright painful and may sometimes even cause rectal bleeding, especially during a bowel movement.

Hemorrhoids are common during pregnancy. Some women experience them for the first time while they're pregnant ? and if you've had them before pregnancy, you're quite likely to get them again now. You may also develop them during the second stage of labor, while you're pushing. Either way, you'll find they often go away on their own (or with some simple measures mentioned below) some time after delivery.

Why are they common during pregnancy?
There are a few reasons that pregnancy makes you more prone to hemorrhoids (as well as varicose veins in the legs and sometimes even in the vulva). Your growing uterus puts pressure on the pelvic veins and the inferior vena cava (a large vein on the right side of the body that receives blood from the lower limbs). This can slow the return of blood from the lower half of your body, thus increasing the pressure on the veins below the level of your uterus and causing them to become more dilated or swollen. Constipation, another common problem during pregnancy, can also cause or aggravate hemorrhoids because you tend to strain when having a hard bowel movement. In addition, an increase in the hormone progesterone during pregnancy causes the walls of your veins to relax, allowing them to swell more easily (and also contributes to constipation by slowing things down in your intestinal tract).

What can I do to get relief?

? Take a sitz bath for ten to 20 minutes several times a day, or whenever you can. You don't have to run a bath in the tub ? drug stores sell small plastic tubs that you can fill with warm water and position over your toilet, allowing you to submerge your rectal area by just lowering your pants and sitting down. Soaking in warm water can be very soothing.


? Some women find comfort with an ice pack or cold compresses medicated with witch hazel, while others swear by a heating pad. Try alternating hot and cold treatments; start with an ice pack followed by a warm sitzbath.


? Use soft, unscented, white toilet tissue, which causes less irritation than colored, scented brands. Moistening the tissue can help, too. Many women find wiping with special medicated moist towelettes more comfortable than using toilet tissue.


? Ask your healthcare practitioner to recommend safe topical anesthetics or medicated suppositories. There are many hemorrhoid-relief products on the market, but consult your practitioner before trying one on your own. Most of these products should be used for a short-course of treatment only (a week or less) since continued use can cause even more inflammation.


How can I get rid of or avoid getting hemorrhoids?
Though you're more susceptible to hemorrhoids when pregnant, they're not inevitable! Here are some ways to ward them off or reduce them if you do get them:

? Avoid constipation: Eat a high-fiber diet, drink plenty of water (eight to 10 glasses a day), and try to get some regular exercise, even if you only have time for a short, brisk walk. If you're constipated, ask your healthcare provider about using a fiber supplement or a stool softener.


? Don't wait when you have the urge to have a bowel movement, try not to strain when you're moving your bowels, and don't linger on the toilet because it puts pressure on the area.


? Do Kegel exercises daily: Tense the muscles around your vagina and anus and hold for eight to 10 seconds before releasing and relaxing. Repeat 25 times. Not only will Kegels increase circulation in the rectal area and strengthen the muscles around the anus (thereby decreasing the chance of hemorrhoids), but they also strengthen and tone the muscles around the vagina and urethra, which aids in postpartum recovery.


? Avoid sitting or standing for long stretches of time. If your job involves sitting, get up and move around for a few minutes every hour or so. At home, lie on your left side when sleeping, reading, or watching TV to take the pressure off your rectal veins and help increase blood return from the lower half of your body.


When should I call my practitioner?
If your own preventive and relief efforts don't help, or if you notice bleeding, consult your doctor or midwife. (Any rectal bleeding should be checked by your practitioner.) In most cases, your hemorrhoids will get better after delivery with the measures discussed above, though occasionally minor surgery may be required after pregnancy.

hope this helps anyone else who maybe suffering from or likley to get piles.....

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Mahoosivemamma · 08/11/2004 10:37

Thank you Mothernature, I really appreciate all these kind wishes and helpful advice. It's nice to know I'm not alone in my pain!!!!

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Mahoosivemamma · 08/11/2004 10:52

Forgot to ask,is a sitzbath the same as the epsom salts bath idea? I've also recently had thrush (happy days!)would this still be ok to do?

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mothernature · 08/11/2004 10:55

Sitz Bath:
A special plastic tub. A person sits in a few inches of warm water to help relieve discomfort of hemorrhoids or anal fissures.
Pronunciation: (SITS bath)

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Mahoosivemamma · 08/11/2004 10:59

ohhhhh!!!! I see - I am daft!!! I'll blame it on baby!!!

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vivie · 08/11/2004 21:55

You can get anusol etc on prescription so you don't have to pay for it. Don't forget to pack some in your labour bag!

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Catbert · 08/11/2004 22:04

Argh - I made the big mistake of taking a look recently and I nearly cried cause it looked like my bottom had fallen out!

Mine come and go. It gets me down frankly. Good advice here though. Blimey it feels good to share!

Will always remember after DD1 my midwife announcing (upon checking my stitches) "Goodness me but you have a spectacular pile there dear!" Yes. Thanks for that!

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