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Egg and soldiers :(

(28 Posts)
SJC2014 Tue 22-Apr-14 19:23:01

Is it true you can't eat this or is it just over cautious? I am craving it sooo badly and it is one of my favourite meals!! I want it sooo bad! sad

TheBuggerlugs Tue 22-Apr-14 19:24:21

All eggs with a Lion Stamp are from chickens that have been vaccinated against salmonella. Its not that you can't have it, the NHS just don't recommend it.

alita7 Tue 22-Apr-14 19:30:28

How many times have you got salmonella from your runny kings eggs before?
I haven't so when I accidentally under boiled my egg I ate it and when I made my dad a birthday cake I taste tested... I don't have an egg every day so I figured the chances were minute. go for it smile

TeenageMutantNinjaTurtle Tue 22-Apr-14 19:30:54

Exactly what buggerlugs said. As long as you're buying Lion Stamped eggs you should be ok. I wouldn't eat runny eggs in a restaurant but 85% of UK eggs are Lion Stamped so ones you buy and cook yourself should be fine.

MrsMonkeyBear Tue 22-Apr-14 19:38:09

I asked my midwife about this as I had a craving for runny yolks. She said as long as it's lion stamped and it's not every day, then it's ok. I think in the 6 weeks since I asked her I've had one a week. The advice that you get given these days is so hit and miss regarding food.

RAFWife12 Tue 22-Apr-14 19:41:36

I have been avoiding these due to the NHS guidance, mostly down to my DH refusing to let me have anything on the "banned" foods list. As previous posters have said, the eggs that are vaccinated should be fine. The risk is really low.

SJC2014 Tue 22-Apr-14 21:22:00

Im going to buy some lion stamped organic eggs and go to town tomorrow!! Mmmmmm

Pregnantagain7 Tue 22-Apr-14 21:23:45

Go for it I probably eat one a week what's the point of a egg if you can't dip! smile

Boudica1990 Tue 22-Apr-14 21:27:23

shock 24 weeks here and I never heared this....Jesus I've had like 1/2 servings a week of egg and soldiers.

Ooooops blush

PenguinsLoveFishFingers Tue 22-Apr-14 21:34:17

Agree with everyone else. I eat them regularly. Just not when the eggs are from our neighbours' chickens rather than lion stamped.

gunwalloe Tue 22-Apr-14 22:00:44

I've had cravings for egg and soldiers I figured my body must need something that's in the egg but I hard boiled it not the same but it satisfied the craving

SJC2014 Tue 22-Apr-14 22:56:53

I'm actually salivating at the thought of dippy eggs!! None in the house but I am ON IT tomorrow now to try and sleep without constantly thinking about it- cravings are horrible!!!

22honey Wed 23-Apr-14 14:33:01

mmmm I love them aswell but DP hasn't been letting me eat anything that you 'arnt supposed to'...have to admit no one else I know really accepts all the scaremongering in pregnancy, don't do this, don't do that.

Have just told him about this and hes agreed to let me have lion stamped runny egg!! mmmmmmm thanks whoever posted this lol

Itsfab Wed 23-Apr-14 14:46:36

Did you have your runny eggs, SJC?

22honey - your husband can surely not control what you eat. I appreciate he might have concerns but you have full control over your body and I am sure you wouldn't take any risks for the sake of a lunch.

flymo79 Wed 23-Apr-14 15:59:58

cripes, i've eaten plenty of soft eggs from my own chickens this pregnancy and poached eggs in restaurants. oops.

PenguinsLoveFishFingers Wed 23-Apr-14 16:14:45

22Honey - Surely your husband doesn't 'let' or 'not let' you do anything? Do you just mean he worries so much it's not worth it?

EyelinerQueen Wed 23-Apr-14 16:20:08

FGS this kind of thing gives me the rage.

Do you regularly catch salmonella from eggs? Or listeria from paté?

No? Then use your common sense and stop listening to the hysterical scaremongering.

I am 27 weeks pregnant and just like with my last pregnancy I have drank proper not decaff tea every day and eaten runny eggs and rare steaks and paté and <<gasp>> even drank the occasional glass of wine.

I had a growth scan yesterday and it looks unlikely that my bouncing baby is going to be born with 2 heads.

Common sense and rational thinking people.

22honey Wed 23-Apr-14 16:29:39

Penguins what I mean by 'let' me, is that he worries about it. He doesn't tell me I can or can't do anything! I would rather not worry him unnecessarily though.

22honey Wed 23-Apr-14 16:32:10

I agree Eyeliner queen, I know tons of women that smoked, drank alcohol, drank coffee and coca cola everyday, ate anything they wanted and basically barely/never changed anything about their lifestyles. Their babies are all beautiful and healthy, full term normal births.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Wed 23-Apr-14 16:35:28

I ate runny eggs throughout both pregnancies. Not just lion-stamped ones either (I get mine from a local organic farm).

The risk of salmonella from eggs is miniscule and even if you do get it, it will make YOU quite poorly but it won't affect the pregnancy.

EyelinerQueen Wed 23-Apr-14 16:35:46

Well I would draw the line at any smoking and at regularly drinking alcohol. Plus I don't drink fizzy drinks or eat much junk food.

But yes grin.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Wed 23-Apr-14 16:41:06

Well quite EyelinerQueen - it's a big extrapolation from 'runny eggs very unlikely to do you any harm' - to stating regular drinking / smoking / high amounts of caffeine - are safe when there is significant evidence they are not.

The point is - the guidelines are just guidelines, often based on the precautionary principle and the research and evidence supporting each one is available - usually quite easily - on the web or through the FSA / NHS. So you can make a considered decision yourself.

EyelinerQueen Wed 23-Apr-14 16:46:17

Exactly.

It's not about saying 'fuck it' and being completely carefree about what you consume. It's about reading the available information, assessing the risk to you and your baby and making an informed decision.

I've had more than a few doctors tell me that the guidelines are ridiculously heavy handed. Probably so that the NHS has covered its back in the highly unlikely event of a mother and/or baby actually getting ill from food and drink items.

I just really hate people who talk about what they're "allowed" and "not allowed". Like we're brainless walking incubators who don't get to decide for ourselves.

Minxyminion Wed 23-Apr-14 17:07:34

It's upto everyone to read all the guidelines and make an informed decision about what they think the right thing is to do. I personally have stuck to the guidelines but I know a lot of people who haven't who have gone onto have perfectly healthy children. However, 9 months isn't a long time to stop eating and drinking these things and compared to the sacrifices that you have to make once uv actually had a child, are actually very small! I wouldn't want to do anything personally that could harm my unborn child, no matter how small the risk. With dd1 I followed all the guidelines and I had two friends who were also pregnant the same time as me who drank, smoked etc and yet I was the one who had a premature birth and then a disabled child, whilst their children have gone on to be 'developmentally normal.' I know someone who miscarried at 24 weeks with their child from toxoplasmosis so it does happen, although it is very rare. At the end of the day I don't pass judgement on anyone who eats/drinks things that aren't recommended but just want people to have a good hard think. Although my daughters disablities are 'just one of those things' and nothing to do with what I ate or drunk, I honestly couldn't live with myself if I was the cause. I just thank god in my pregnancy I did everything by the book so I know it couldn't have been prevented.

22honey Wed 23-Apr-14 17:12:33

I didn't say I agree with smoking or whatever when pregnant, just that everyone I know that has has had healthy babies.

I have to say I have never ever seen the significant evidence those things do harm. it seems to say it everywhere, but with no studies or proof whatsoever that is the case. I mean (its pretty obvious it does tbh but still) where is the evidence taking cocaine in pregnancy is harmful, surely its unethical to test such things?

Not that I agree with or would ever do such a thing!

'Allowed' is just the way I put it, no need to be snarky. I suspect from your post you arn't 'allowed' to drink or smoke, saying 'allowed' doesn't mean someone else has forced that on you! Some right bitchy posters on this forum!

Also just because you personally wouldn't do something, doesn't mean you have the right to impose your morality on any other expectant mother. Antidepressants have some link to birth defects (I was advised to stop them whilst pregnant if possible), yet plenty of women still take them as its a risk/reward thing.

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