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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE Mon 02-Dec-13 14:35:22

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
https://sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

ChaffinchOfDoom Tue 03-Dec-13 12:24:38

think it was this story very lucky

LucindaE Tue 03-Dec-13 12:43:47

Chaffinch Oh, dear, as Livngzuid says, you don't need that for sure when you're feeling delicate anyway .Once I took part in a migraine research thing where they took by blood each day for ten days before a period - anyway, once the dr was out and a nurse did it with exactly the same result, blood on the floor. It didn't hurt me at all but a poor women waiting in the same room screamed.
xx

LucindaE Tue 03-Dec-13 12:45:52

Chaffnch and Livingzuid So true -an amazing story. A woman I knew fell on a chair, stomach first, form a height and the baby was fine, not quite the same but still...
xx

ChaffinchOfDoom Tue 03-Dec-13 13:14:32

Lucinda - ooh migraine research? did you get any answers?
knowing your triggers is a good starting point, I get them when the seasons change. Im not sick with them, but get blinding eye whorls and swirls. loathe them.

Meerka Tue 03-Dec-13 13:16:31

grin her parachute failed and she survived and they discovered she was preg? Wow

and what a conversation that must have been with the medics!

CrazyThursday Tue 03-Dec-13 13:37:24

Knock knock!

I'm just sticking my head round the door - but not sure if I can really come in.... I'm 7 weeks tomorrow (does that make me 6+6 or 6+7 today??) with dc2. With DD I had awful nausea from 6-17 weeks then felt great. Threw up a few times but not half as bad as you guys by the sounds of it (which is why I'm tentatively posting)... This time I feel queasy, no vomming yet but seem to recal the worst being around 9-13 weeks so perhaps it's yet to come.

LucindaE Tue 03-Dec-13 13:58:24

CrazyThursday Welcome, sorry you may need to join us. It is possible to have Hyperemesis without vomiting, and it can cause nearly as much misery. Seventeen weeks was obviously very late for normal nausea to go off - how are the liquids going down, given that they are the most important thing? Do you find ice lollies and jelly any good?
Everyone Re; Migraines and hormones, they have increasingly seen that there is a big link between hormonal changes in the cycle and pregnancy and migraine cystitis and very likely Hyperemesis, but don't seem to have progressed understanding much beyond that so far, that I've heard. It was funny, I had such needle tracks up and down my arms that people looked at me in disgust, it being summer and my arms bare.
xx

CrazyThursday Tue 03-Dec-13 14:30:53

Thank you Lucinda!

I havent tried jelly or lollies actually... I'm tending to favour savory things. Also I am really off drinking anything though am trying a cup of hot lemon and ginger when I feel really queasy and then stick to squash or water though rarely finish a glass tbh.

Last time I remember living off of jacket potatoes and salt and vinegar Pringles!! Difficult to do that now when I need to eat well in front of DD! Saying that, I also recall fruit salads tasting amazing... I went right off salad.

Gingernut biscuits help a bit and I slowly ate a banana before bed last night and that made me feel normal ish.

I'm lucky in that I work from home so come a lunchtime I really take the piss head off for a cheeky nap!!

I am far less fitter than I was when pg with DD and that is playing on my mind as I'm eating so badly at the mo. I also had a really easy pregnancy and birth with DD but I'm worried my lack of fitness and crappy diet will result in a harder time of it this time.

Best wishes to you all, it's a really shitty thing this 'morning sickness' malarkey. I reckon there would a cure by now if men suffered from it!

Meerka Tue 03-Dec-13 14:44:06

hello thursday and feel free to join the unmerry throng. We're a friendly bunch! dont worry too much about your diet. As doomfinch said, the baby looks after itself and makes sure it's fine. It's you who will suffer!

Lucninda's link on the first post above is amazing, there's a lot of really good info there about what helps and what does not.

lucinda you say there is a link with HG and cystitis?! Because I get a lot of cystitis, to the point where the specialist actually said just take an antibiotic a day (which is absolutely amazing for a doctor in the NL). We did also wonder, a few threads ago, if there was a link with women who had trouble with tolerating teh Pill ... which maybe also makes sense?

What a horrible summer that must have been, if you needed so many injections that you had needlemarks sad very glad things are better now! how old is your little one? smile

Hollyjokes Tue 03-Dec-13 15:21:55

Hi ladies, would you all mind if I joined you here? I had HG for my entire pregnancy with my DD and I am now pregnant again with DC2. I am only 6+2 so very early days, however I am getting sicker each day hmm I've had almost constant nausea for over two weeks, started morning only vomiting last week, and the last couple of days it's been all day long. I'm only managing to keep a bit of food/water down if I eat in that little 5min window after a vomit when you feel slightly better, before the horrible nausea comes right back again. Today has been the worst yet, nothing kept down yet and I've spent most of the day in tears as I just can't believe that this is happening to me again hmm

I know it hasn't been long yet but I'm already really struggling. My DD is still only little and needs a well mummy, and I feel so guilty that she's hardly been out of the house in the last few days. As soon as we get up in the morning I have to plonk her in front of the TV with a pile of toys so I can spend half an hour throwing up in the kitchen confused

I tried calling the GP this morning but there's no appointments until next week. I'm to call back in the morning if I decide I need an emergency appointment. Should I do this? I'm not sure if the GP would refuse to prescribe medication this early in my pregnancy? I keep thinking that they won't diagnose me with HG again yet as it hasn't been long enough, I haven't lost enough weight, I've been able to keep some food down, even if not much, etc. I struggled through up to about 9 weeks in my last pregnancy before I sought help, by which time I was in such a state that I needed immediate hospitalisation for treatment for dehydration. I don't want that to happen again.

It feels good to get this out. Not many people know I'm pregnant yet in real life. I wouldn't wish this feeling on my worst enemy, but at the same time it's good to know that I'm not alone in this. Thanks for reading ladies smile

Scheriously Tue 03-Dec-13 15:30:11

Hi all, I hope everyone is okay and not suffering too badly today.

My doctors appointment is tomorrow and seeing as I couldn't get in with my GP, DH is coming with me to make me feel a little better. After that is my 15 week appointment with the midwife. I feel almost like quitting my job to be honest, but we'll see.

living I totally blanked out during my 12 week scan because I was so petrified something was going to be wrong. DH was there and really enjoying it, and I can remember looking at the screen and at the time I felt fine... But then when I got home I was certain it had hardly moved, that the heartbeat didn't sound as strong as it did in the earlier scans etc etc! Even DH couldn't convince me. I think it's completely normal... after all, we go through all of this sickness and it takes so much out of us, we're even more desperate to know everything is okay!! Even seeing the midwife tomorrow, I'm still worried of a mmc or something.

No sickness here today or yesterday, just a touch of nausea. I would normally be rejoicing but the brief break is normally followed by a few days of hell so I won't hold my breath!!!

livingzuid Tue 03-Dec-13 16:47:56

Hello hello all new people sorry you have to be here. Many wise folks with words of wisdom who will help.

Flying message from me to say the two chocolate croissants and a bag of peanut m&s really sorted me out this afternoon to the point of having a productive day at work. I feel a bit acidic but ok. Dare I hope? I had terrible acid last night and I was so fidgety. Then had nightmares about down syndrome scan all bloody night. And I feel permanently constipated which is making my front feel uncomfortable sad

And big thanks for votes of support from everyone I will reply properly later. Enjoying this productive streak. I told our regional director about being preggo today and he didn't look overly surprised so I suspect my boss had mentioned something but was so nice about things I nearly cried at him as well. Crying at everything today.

Can I ask a quick question - do you find the ultrasound a bit uncomfortable sometimes? They really pressed on my belly yesterday and today and I felt a bit of discomfort. Not ow sore pain but just hmm.

LucindaE Tue 03-Dec-13 18:12:19

Hollyjokes Welcome, Yes, make an emergency appointment do, before you get dehydrated. Don't try and tough it out, the earlier the treatment starts, before you get into the being sick constantly groove too much, hte more chance of it's being effective, I hear. I am sure as a veteran you know all about testing urine, no need for advice from me there.
What meds if any worked for you last time?
Scheriously I am glad about those two nice days' break.
Livingzuid That sounds unpleasant - nobody likes their belly being pressed on, though for sure it's safe enough. Is it always that rough?
xx

livingzuid Tue 03-Dec-13 18:40:40

lucinda I think it's the constipation. My whole upper belly is swollen it's so uncomfortable. This is again really tmi but when I have wind or need to go it is really really uncomfortable and then better after. It was a relief to be vomiting as it took the pressure off my upper abdomen.

It also the last few days has felt quite like my belly is stretching to grow which I have found uncomfortable since the day I ovulate! It comes and goes though, like right now it feels fine (but I did just have a pee!). The uncomfortable is not in my uterus but all around it when they press if that makes sense. It was fine on Friday I just noticed it a bit yesterday and more again today. She jiggled the scanner wand really quite hard on my belly to get the baby to move into position to get the neck measurements as it was lying on its front looking like it was sunbathing grin and I wanted to hit her at that point!

I am super protective of my middle anyway but now having read chaffinch's parachute article I acknowledge I am being a tad paranoid smile If a baby can survive that then a bit of keen ultrasounding is not going to matter is it.

Feeling acidic and a touch sick but pleased to have drunk lots of water and eaten an apple this afternoon. Today in hg world was a good day. DH is coming to collect me from work and we are going for my diet coke fix.

holly make an appointment don't leave it. The front line medicine is safe in first trimester. Don't suffer if you don't have to. Feel better soon.

Howly Tue 03-Dec-13 20:00:07

I'm early days, 6+4 but have been getting progressively worse nausea since last Friday, today I felt sick on waking, ate brekkie and felt better, was ok ish through the day then sickness kicked in again at about 3pm, the evenings are the worst! I've not been sick yet but I'm dreading it getting any worse!

I'm really worried about coping at school, I'm a teacher and don't want to tell my employer til at least 12 weeks but if it gets worse just getting through the day is going to be hard, let alone the hours of work i do in the evening. I don't want to take time off as I had 2 weeks off in October to have my appendix out!

Felling grotty and apprehensive about the next few months!

ChaffinchOfDoom Tue 03-Dec-13 20:08:36

yep holly the earlier the meds the better the treatment

do the ketostix thing, pee on the stick and if it's a 3 or 4 its an emergency appointment.

jenpatnim Tue 03-Dec-13 21:16:23

Hello new people, I hope you find this thread as useful as I have, Lucinda and the ladies are so supportive.

I had a rubbish day at work - my voice kept cutting out and I actually felt the room spin a few times. I went to find my vice principal at the end of school to tell her I was too sick to come in tomorrow and she was in a senior management meeting. I knocked and very politely asked if I could speak to her for one moment and the principal said, "Is it an emergency?" I was flummoxed. I am a professional, I have never interrupted a meeting before, I would not have done so if I did not consider it to be necessary. I said, "I could always phone her later?" which is the other protocol for phoning in sick, so she came out and spoke to me, but I was upset and nearly cried telling her how sick I felt. Bloody principal is a bit harsh at times. Admittedly I am also hypersensitive, feeling so ill and all the hormones etc. VP was as lovely as ever and just rolled her eyes at the principal, so that was a bit better.

jenpatnim Tue 03-Dec-13 21:17:03

ANd then I went back to my room and left detailed notes for sub cover because I am a control freak and couldn't let go lol.

Hollyjokes Tue 03-Dec-13 21:22:57

Thanks ladies - it really helps to have others agree with me that I need to see a doctor ASAP. It's nice to know that I'm not overreacting.

Lucinda - in my last pregnancy I was given cyclizine, but it didn't really help much. Maybe it's because I was in the full grip of HG before I asked for help though. During the times I was hospitalised, however, I was given cyclizine via injection and it definitely worked! I always felt great while I was in hospital and being rehydrated by drip. It was as soon as I left hospital and went back to taking the meds in tablet form that I would quickly get worse again.

Later in my pregnancy my GP changed my medication to promethazine, and this did seem to help, however I'll never know if my HG was improving naturally at that point though (I was about 25 weeks by then).

I've had a good old cry to my DH this evening, as the thought of feeling like this for the next 7.5 months is just so upsetting. I actually have a few pills left from my last pregnancy (cyclizine) and my DH has suggested that I take one now to see if I feel any better. I'm a bit wary of taking anything before I've seen my doctor though.

Scheriously Tue 03-Dec-13 22:27:43

holly I'm really sorry you're feeling down. I find HG is so mentally challenging as well as physically because it can just be completely relentless. You're not overreacting at all, you need to see a GP because as you know, it can get nasty quickly. Don't fight it, just concentrate doing whatever you need to do to feel okay.

I am doing my head in feeling so guilty about work. I need to get a grip. I feel so shitty about all this time off, but there's been no alternative. I wish they would let me do a phased return for a week just so I can feel confident that I can handle it, but they won't.

Hope everyone is doing okay today thanks

Hollyjokes Tue 03-Dec-13 22:50:45

Thank you Scheriously. I will definitely try to get to my GP tomorrow.

I was exactly the same as you during my first pregnancy re work guilt. I remember driving to work and having to stop the car to vomit at the side of the road, lovely! I struggled on for a bit until something in me finally snapped and I realised that I just couldn't do it anymore. I then spent the next couple of months signed off sick. I still felt pretty guilty but I focused on the fact that myself and my baby were more important than my job. Also, time off sick for pregnancy related reasons isn't included in your count of sick days.
It sounds as if you are trying your best to assist them by offering to do a phased return, but if they won't let you, and you don't feel up to a full return, then go get another sick note.

Scheriously Tue 03-Dec-13 23:39:13

Awake worrying as per usual! But you're right - baby needs to come first. It's not like I'm a big loss - just another cog in a big machine but it still can feel awkward. Thank you, I may actually get some sleep after reading that.

I hope it goes well with the GP tomorrow!

Meerka Wed 04-Dec-13 08:45:35

hello howly and welcome. we've a couple of teachers here who feel the same as you,r eally bad if they are off, but your health does come first !!

Same to you holly!

Just remember, like doomfinch said, the earlier the treatment the more effective. the most respected studies all reckon so. have a good look at the site that Lucinda linked in the first post.

Slightly better than the last two days here but ugh, having a relapse has done my head in. The mental challenge of HG is not small, as someone said ...

Scheriously Wed 04-Dec-13 11:50:52

The beginning of a rough day! Throwing milk back up (I know I shouldn't have, but I reaaally wanted some) is the worst.

Hope everyone is okay x

Hollyjokes Wed 04-Dec-13 11:54:08

I'm seriously fuming today. I went to see my GP this morning and he refused to prescribe me anything angry I reminded him that I was on meds for the whole of my last pregnancy but he reckons he was only happy to give me a repeat prescription because it was the hospital that actually prescribed the anti sickness meds in the first place. He wants me to go to the hospital and be prescribed meds by a doctor there. I told him that the whole point in me coming to him first was because I was trying to get treatment early rather than letting myself get to the point where I needed hospitalisation, but he still refused. He's under the impression that cyclizine can be harmful to the baby and so wants the hospital to take responsibility for prescribing it to me. So basically I now need to wait for a hospital referral before I can get help, by which point it could be too late for early treatment. I'm so angry and upset right now angryhmm

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