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Brown discharge and pain at 21 weeks and no one will see me

(33 Posts)
loopylouu Wed 20-Nov-13 14:26:38

I have had this before at 11 weeks and 17 weeks. At 11 weeks I was scanned and told my placenta was covering my cervix, so this was probably the reason.

At 17 weeks, they scanned me (I had to go to A and E as the pain was horrendous and the midwife on the phone kept telling me to have a bath and a nap), said nothing about placenta, even when I asked (I was steadfastly ignored twice and the third time snapped at and told that they were busy), tested my urine, came up with a minuscule reading and deemed it a UTI and sent me away with antibiotics, even though I am sure it wasn't a UTI.

I phoned the hospital this morning, same thing. Told by midwife to have a bath and that I couldn't be seen by anyone now as the labour ward will not see you under 24 weeks. I told her the pain was horrendous and there was brown discharge, she kept saying have a bath and relax and only go to the hospital if it was bright red blood.

So now I don't know what to do. DO i just sit here in pain and wait and see if the bleeding gets worse? baby is kicking away still.

At my 20 week scan they gave me no info about my placenta, apart from that it is partially covering the OS.

It's all been a bit crap and I really don't feel well today.

HaPPy8 Thu 21-Nov-13 18:20:36

I think in this situation you need to see your GP who then makes a referral to the appropriate hospital department - though the 'care' you had when you go there wouldn't be any different. It is true that a lot of maternity units will not see people before 24 weeks because the way they are set up is that prior to 24 weeks women are seen by either gynae or epu. Sorry you are having a stressful time OP.

Katiejon Thu 21-Nov-13 18:12:04

IF U R BLEEDING IN PREGNANCY, WHETHER RED OR BROWN, GO TO HOSPITAL & DO NOT LEAVE UNTIL U R SCANNED!!!!

plentyofsoap Thu 21-Nov-13 11:07:43

Its so frustrating and it was so close to being missed. I knew something was not right, but felt I was not being taken seriously. I would complain tbh.

Tomkat79 Thu 21-Nov-13 10:44:04

Hi OP sorry you are going through this. In a few weeks time after your apt and re-scan I would seriously take some time to put together a complaint. I'm a nurse and am fully accountable for my actions and regulated by a governing body that will pursue matters if I mess up! These unprofessional practitioners that you have seen make me so mad and need to realise that they cannot continue like they are. I know the health service is in meltdown...but that does not excuse rudeness and incompetence. Rant over!

Hope all is ok xx

loopylouu Thu 21-Nov-13 10:35:02

plentyofsoap It's crazy, isn't it? I have asked so many times to see a consultant. They won't even tell me the name of the consultant I am supposedly under! I know they are busy, but you'd think I was requesting to see God the way they go on.

No one looks at records properly either. I had to tell them again yesterday that this was my second pregnancy after a c/s the first time. They assumed it was my first baby didn't even look at the notes, they have done that every time.

Someone further back on the thread said about A&E being overwhelmed. It's all over the news at them moment, but what can people do when there is no other choice? I remember the days of NHS direct - I called a few times when ds was little. After gaffing around fro hours waiting for them to ring back, the advice was always the same, go to A&E.

plentyofsoap Thu 21-Nov-13 10:26:02

It will be worth it. I had this and it was my cervix funnelling from the inside and i was very close to giving birth at 26 weeks. They only scanned me me due to my previous history of pre term birth. What happened to me is rare though and it worked out fine, but you have to push them. I was sent home three times before seeing a consultant.

loopylouu Thu 21-Nov-13 10:05:53

I have booked an appointment with a private obstetrician for a scan and a check up. I have seen him before when I was going through a MMC.

I can't really afford it, I have saved for years to have a private birth at an nhs hospital before I even considered having another baby (ds had lots of problems at/after birth due to negligence) but I need the reassurance and for someone to properly tell me what is going on.

Chocolatemolehill Thu 21-Nov-13 09:44:32

loopylouu - maybe see your doctor (or some other gynaecologist/obstetrician) privately? These things happen and hopefully it's nothing serious. But if there is something wrong it may be worth having it properly checked, if you can afford it?

loopylouu Thu 21-Nov-13 08:49:34

Hi - St. Thomas' is miles away from me. So is St. Mary's really. I am only there as I am swapping to private care for the birth at 36 weeks, not there, but at Queen Charlottes (which still isn't even my nearest hospital!) and the private consultant I will be seeing does NHS from St Mary's.

She thought if I booked in there that she would be able to keep an eye on me and try and see me sometimes before I swapped to private, as I had a horrendous experience in my first pregnancy.

However, it was a flat no from the hospital and she is allowed nothing to do with me, so her hands are tied incase she gets accused of favouritism.

St. Mary's and Queen Charlottes are 'sister' hospitals and I have been to both, they are both a bit crap.

The bleeding has stopped and the pain has lessened.

skitter Thu 21-Nov-13 08:29:46

I second the suggestion of trying St Thomas's. They have an EPU and I always found them very helpful and kind.

loopylouu then I'd suggest trying the antenatal day unit at St Thomas' tomorrow - it may not be "your" hospital but I think they'd see you...

DoItTooJulia Wed 20-Nov-13 20:30:26

Ask to speak to the supervisor of midwives.

Persistence is the key here.

Good luck OP, hope you feel better soon.

whereisthewitch Wed 20-Nov-13 20:26:38

That is an effing disgrace thank God I was never treated so badly, OP I'd keep ringing them until they scan you! If you were 24 weeks they'd bend over backwards, I hate this mentality that just because a fetus isn't viable it's not worth looking after!

loopylouu Wed 20-Nov-13 20:23:23

Sorry for the ubrupt update. I'm tired, pissed off, worried, still in pain and have an 11 year old son who's playing up about doing his homework.

loopylouu Wed 20-Nov-13 20:21:19

Well I went to A&E, they sent me to the EPU.

They didn't scan me. Looked at my records and said I was due a rescan at 32 weeks. Said to rest while there was bloody discharge and to come back if the blood was bright red. Take paracetamol. And that was it.

Said they wouldn't do an internal due to my low lying placenta.

It's a large hospital - St Mary's in paddington, so I thought I'd be treated better in this pregnancy going there.

Pinupgirl Wed 20-Nov-13 18:58:23

Go to the hospital!!! I had this at exactly the same stage and it turned out I had an incompetent cervix and was 3cm dilated. I didn't even phone I went straight to the hospital and luckily I had a very experienced midwife who spotted my dilated cervix on the scan that showed baby was fine.

I hope that you are getting seen at the moment and all well but please do put in a complaint.

Sounds like your hospital doesn't have an antenatal ward, is that right? Are there any other hospitals in the area you could go to? You need to be seen by antenatal triage at this stage, I would have thought.

ladythatlunches Wed 20-Nov-13 18:40:16

Complete rubbish. They should have a triage you can go to. I went in at 18 weeks and 21 weeks and so on. Only problem they have at young gestation is strapping you to the monitor.

I can't believe how shocking they have all behaved.

randdom Wed 20-Nov-13 17:29:09

Bypass a&e (autocorrect!)

randdom Wed 20-Nov-13 17:28:29

You have probably already doing something but just incase you aren't I would try and speak to your GP or an out of hours GP. If they are worried they can refer you in to be assessed by someone. It should mean you can bolas a&be

SweetPea86 Wed 20-Nov-13 16:46:46

Do you know this really annoys me. They say to many people are going to A&E and it's over run. But when your asking for help there giving you no other option.

It's all very well them telling you to have a bath but you have a baby inside and feel helpless.

Like the other ladies said go to A&E they will have to see you.

I hope your ok and let us know how you get on

PumpkinPie2013 Wed 20-Nov-13 16:44:07

How are you loopylouu? Hope you're getting seen at a&e and all is ok x

Spaghettinetti Wed 20-Nov-13 16:41:53

This is disgusting. I'm really cross for you. I totally agree with whereisthewitch, I think you need to go to A & E, tell them you've followed MW's advice but that things aren't any better. Take somebody with you to support you and to help make sure that you are seen.

loopylouu Wed 20-Nov-13 15:10:43

The line I called was the main midwife line at the hospital. They are the ones I see.

Rockchick1984 Wed 20-Nov-13 14:54:21

Awful treatment! However most labour wards won't admit you until 24 weeks so that's pretty standard - it should be A&E or EPU prior to this.

Who do you see for your antenatal appointments? Can't you contact them?

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