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High HCG but nothing found on scan? :(

(11 Posts)
maciemoo Mon 23-Jul-12 18:20:33

So my last period was the 10th of june.
I have a 30 day cycle and ovulate around day 21. I went to A&E last wednes day (18th june) with water infection. They tested my pee and it was clear.
They booked me a scan for last friday (20th june)..they did internal scan and nothing was seen in my womb or tubes i had bloods and they came back at 2483...they are saying that a sac should at least be seen when levels are at 1500. im so confused, how am i pregnant yet there is nothing there? i now have to wait for friday for a rescan. this is my fourth pregnancy

Ginshizz Mon 23-Jul-12 18:27:50

Hi

I am not an expert but wanted to share my similar experience - after two rounds of ivf, I was v excited by my BFP but then at the first scan (at c. 5 weeks) I was told they couldn't see anything and they should be able to by then going by the hcg levels and the dates. We then had a stressful couple of weeks until the next scan when it turned out that everything was fine.

I guess some babies haven't read the textbook as to exactly what they should be doing when; I was also shocked at how gloomy the ultrasound technician was when if you look into it, there are relatively big variations in what can be seen when - especially in the early days.

Do you have any symptoms that make them suspect an ectopic? Have you been given any potential explanations?

I hope you are feeling ok as I know how stressful it is. I am crossing my fingers that you will have a similar experience to mine and that everything will be fine.

Also I hope someone who knows more about these things will be along soon!

Xx

maciemoo Mon 23-Jul-12 20:35:02

Thank you for your reply.
If i am honest i feel very upset ant confused and finfing hard to think about anything else.
I dont think i have signs of ectopic except diorreah (sorry)
Do you know what your hcg levels were when they couldnt find anything?
I really am so scared that they will never find it in my womb sad
Thank you xxx

maciemoo Mon 23-Jul-12 20:35:51

Gosh my spelling was awful there, that'll teach me for eating over the laptop, sorry xx

Ginshizz Mon 23-Jul-12 21:15:04

I'm afraid I can't remember the exact levels, but, like you, I was told that, given the hcg levels, they should have been able to see a sac, yolk sac and fetal pole but all they could see was a sac measuring small for my dates and hcg levels.

What have they suggested? Are you going to have a repeat scan?

Can you have a private scan? I know how you feel about not being able to think of anything else ... I eventually went for a private scan as I couldn't wait the three weeks the nhs suggested.

Diarrhea is a v normal pregnancy symptom I think so don't worry about that. If they suspected an ectopic, I think they would have told you about it so you could keep alert to the symptoms.

The other thing to think about is that you could have ovulated later than normal and / or your LO could have taken a long time to implant ... They can take anywhere between four and twelve days so thats a huge variation so early on. (I know this from having gone totally neurotic during my experience!).

I would tell you to relax until your next scan but I know that's impossible. All I would say is try to get another scan as soon as you can to see how things are going. Even a day or two can make a huge difference at this stage; I went from the second nhs scan leading the sonographer talking to me about 'ways to end the retention of the failed pregnancy' to seeing a heartbeat in 18 hrs.

I am sorry I don't know more about the hcg levels ... I will see if I can find my notes and get back to you!

X

Moominsummermadness Mon 23-Jul-12 21:49:19

Hello,

It is horrible being stuck in limbo, I was in your shoes at the start of the year. To cut a long story short, I had a scan when my Hcg level was 3575 (have just re-read my diary from the time!), and the sonographer couldn't see a pregnancy located either in my uterus or my tubes. I was told the same as you- that when the level is 1500, they should be able to see the pregnancy. I had to go for another scan 8 days later, and they saw the gestational sac, yolk sac and tiny 4.8mm embryo with a heartbeat, all in the right place. I don't know what my hcg level was on that day, but 6 days previously it was 6800. The midwife at the EPAU told me that they had all been convinced I was having an ectopic pregnancy, but it just goes to show that not everyone fits within the 'norm'. Am currently 31+4 and all going well. Do you know if you have a tilted uterus? That can make it harder to see.

Really hope it works out for you. x

Ginshizz Mon 23-Jul-12 22:06:54

Arrrrgh I can't find my notes I'm afraid.

I really hope your little bean is like mine and Moomin's and just doesn't fancy being typical.

Do keep us posted ... I am keeping my fingers tightly crossed

X

DuckWaddle Mon 23-Jul-12 22:11:42

I had a similar problem. I had a similar hcg level but nothing was seen on the scan (I had the scan because of slight bleeding). I had hormone levels checked and a repeat scan a few days later and the hormone levels doubled, as they should and the embryo sac could be seen. I was worried about a possible ectopic too or early miscarriage but all was fine and I'm now 31 weeks. Hope it all goes ok for you

tomatoplantproject Mon 23-Jul-12 22:26:19

I had the same issue - high hcg levels (about the same as yours I think but can't find it in my notes) and they couldn't see a thing. It was 5+3 before they saw the bean on the scan, by which point I'd had a laparoscopy for suspected ectopic under general anaesthetic. Am now 25 weeks.

Ginshizz Tue 24-Jul-12 20:00:13

Hope you're doing ok today OP, my fingers are still crossed for you and your shy bean x

PhiPhi23 Wed 12-Oct-16 10:01:07

Hello everyone!

So last Friday I found out I was pregnant (clear blue test) in the evening. I repeated the test the next morning and was still positive and then another on the Monday!
I have no idea when my last period is because they have always been irregular so I was booked in for an early scan because I was having slight pains focused on my right side.
Yesterday I had an internal scan and they could see a sac but nothing else!?

They tested my blood and my levels are extremely high so they are concerned as to why the can't see anything?

Could it be because I am so early? There is also a history of twins in my family too?

I am worried now as to why nothing can be seen on the internal scan sad

They have booked me in for another scan on Friday so that would have left it two days since my last.

Any advice?

xxxx

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