So, who else is starting on Saturday?

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ItsAllTLAsToMe Thu 09-May-13 20:48:18

We're going to start potty training DS (2.8) on Saturday. Is anyone else starting then too?

ThatRuddyAbyssinian Fri 10-May-13 21:16:37

We're starting on Sunday (out tomorrow) with DD who is 2.4. smile Am feeling pretty nervous and still a little bit unsure of what method to take - cold turkey or session style? Nappy during naptime or not? DD has a long nap in the afternoon (usually up to 2 hours if she's really tired) so I'm not sure how to handle that. hmm

ItsAllTLAsToMe Fri 10-May-13 22:35:31

Yay, company!

We're going cold turkey, pants on only for most of the w/e. Nappy on at night obviously, but I'm not sure about nap times either.

Oh well, at least we'll get lots of house jobs done grin.

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 11-May-13 07:35:49

And so it begins...

2 prompted wees so far. Some got out if the Pourty Potty.

TheScreamingfrog Sat 11-May-13 08:15:22

Good luck! We are starting this morning with DD who is 2.10. Day in the conservatory I think...

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 11-May-13 09:21:10

Good luck to you too Frog.

We've had a few prompted wees (we're asking every 30mins), an asked for wee(!), and a small wee in pants so far.

Luckily, we have a (horrible) laminated floor grin.

TheScreamingfrog Sat 11-May-13 12:17:31

Great start!

We have had one where she asked and sat on the potty but forgot to remove her clothes - counting that as a success! Apart from that Ben and Holly are keeping her on the potty - or is that cheating?!

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 11-May-13 15:05:15

How's it going Frog?

We had a poo in pants incident, which I possibly could have avoided if I'd been quicker (I think DS looks at his pants before he does a wee or a poo). Otherwise, it's been good - still prompting + weeing, although he said No for a while (because he was playing I think), but then had a successful wee. But...he's now having a nap with no nappy on, eek.

TheScreamingfrog Sat 11-May-13 15:55:25

Ooh you are braver than me! She is napping with a nappy on. Bit worried about a lack of poo so far....
But (touch wood) it's not been as traumatic as I thought it would!
Fingers crossed for wake up time.
It is lovely sharing it with someone else - thanks for the thread!

TheScreamingfrog Sat 11-May-13 18:22:28

How are you getting on?

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 11-May-13 18:49:03

grin I'm not braver - DS said that he didn't want to put a nappy on at naptime, so I went with that. Also, he has a HippyChick waterproof sheet on his cot anyway. Surprisingly, he was dry after his nap, but then when I was trying to convince him to go on his potty, he did a big wee through his pants onto the floor.

Similar mixed success since then really... I don't know whether to be pleased or not overall grin. It could have been a lot worse.

I think the issues for us will be playing and therefore not paying attention, not pooing in the potty possibly, and possibly not wanting to put on a nappy at night.

How has the rest of your day been Frog?

TheScreamingfrog Sat 11-May-13 19:53:20

Lol at him not wanting the nappy on! Sounds like he has done well.
We have had no poos today but overall success I think. 2 wees through clothing but in the potty and 3 on the potty so overall I am pretty pleased.

Shall we have a glass of wine and drink to a potty filled tomorrow?

notnowbernard Sat 11-May-13 19:58:12

Ds 2.9

Wees on potty with gay abandon when nekkid. Unprompted

Produced his first poo this eve in response to a bribe for a Haribo

I'm not brave enough yet to do pants outside

AND I've done this before - he's no. 3 shock

[should know better emoticon]

Thing is I reckon he'll be pissing all over the shop if I stick pants on him

Shall I do it or not? <ditherer>

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 11-May-13 20:09:41

Frog, well done, it sounds like you've had a really good day. I think we definitely deserve a glass of something cold - DH and I have some Magners cooling in the fridge <classy>.

Bernard, go for it! Make a fuss about the pants, and about them being able to take them off / put them on etc.

Well, DS was a bit unhappy to wear a nappy tonight, but I think I got round that by being firm that nappies were for nighttime, then being less firm by putting his pants on over his nappy. Oh, I hope that doesn't confuse everything though! I think there's an MN 'How to potty train' page somewhere, I think I'll find it on my laptop later.

notnowbernard Sat 11-May-13 20:29:23

There used to be PT Bootcamp threads...

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 11-May-13 20:33:52

That sounds simultaneously helpful and scary Bernard.

Frog, did your DC have a dry nappy after naptime?

Ruddy, come and tell us how you get on tomorrow smile.

notnowbernard Sat 11-May-13 20:36:20

They were funny grin (though I was never on them as wasn't pt when they were around)

Well-known poster used to do them

PartyFops Sat 11-May-13 20:39:50

Watching this thread! grin

DD is just 2 and not quite ready, I'm interested as to whether you have just introduced the potty or whether you have let them experiment with it?

I do about half an hour before bathtime nappy free and offer her the potty, she does normally use it, but her communication is not really good enough yet to properly do it.

TheScreamingfrog Sat 11-May-13 20:51:59

Thanks Its, I am feeling very pleased with myself her. She did have a dry nappy when she woke so may be braver tomorrow wink

Party, she has had access to a potty and toilet seat for ages and been fascinated. I first tried about three months ago but having cleared up the third pee in what felt like as many minutes I have been putting it off. Obviously the right thing to do!

Keep us posted....

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 11-May-13 21:29:51

Party, we just had the potty around, and talked about it a bit, then jumped in at the deep end. Your way sounds great btw smile.

TheScreamingfrog Sun 12-May-13 08:34:02

How are we all this morning? Ready for round 2?

Can I join?
DD is a little young (20 months) but I potty trained her brother at the end of last year, so she has been quite interested since then so we're giving it a go! I figure that if it does work, it's saved us a lot of nappies and if it doesn't, we can always try again next year!
So, we started yesterday and she had one poo accident and one wee accident. I think three wees on the potty and one wee on the toilet. I'd rather go straight to the toilet, but she's scared of heights hmm so isn't always keen to sit on it sad
Anyway, was quite pleased with yesterday, but she has done similar before and then forgotten again, so not holding my breath!
We're going to a party today so not sure what to do about that confused
Hope we all have a good day, will report progress later smile

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sun 12-May-13 09:16:07

Hi everyone smile. I feel a bit discouraged today, as DS has only done a tiny wee in the potty, then refused the potty a few times, then did a big wee on the floor (please excuse grammar!). He's now refusing the potty again. Struggling to find a balance between not asking enough and asking too often.

TheScreamingfrog Sun 12-May-13 12:36:22

Hi Whispers!
Its, I too am slightly worried by today. Two wees and a poo and none in the potty. On the upside, she is recognising what is happening and then heading for the potty. Perhaps it's normal on day two?
Lets hope for a drier afternoon!

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sun 12-May-13 12:45:56

Hi Frog, oh no, it's really disheartening, isn't it?

DS just looked a bit confused, so we managed to get him to the potty in time for a wee. Definitely not taking himself there though. And didn't want any pants on again afterwards. Off to bed for a nap soon confused.

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sun 12-May-13 12:47:16

I meant to add, we've resorted to bribery too (a gingerbread man and £1).

As predicted, we've not had a good day today, she's forgotten again! This tends to happen if she wears a nappy in the day for any length of time, and we went to a party between 12 and 2, so I didn't want to put pants on her for that! Since we got back home at just after 2, she has had three humongous wees on the floor and nothing in the potty/toilet sad Think I am going to persevere for a week, just in case we need to get through a few disastrous days before she 'gets it'.

Hope it improves for everyone, sounds like everyone is having a stressful second day!
Are everyone else's DCs in nursery etc? If so, will you get support from there? I am a SAHM, dd won't be going to preschool for another year, so I won't be getting any other support. DS is at preschool, and was when we were training, but they didn't do much, just followed our lead really.

Make that 4 humongous wees on the floor hmm

TheScreamingfrog Sun 12-May-13 16:49:21

Oh dear all....
We have had more success this afternoon with a wee in the big toilet. Things have been helped by a friend coming round with her DD who is trained and my DD following her to the toilet to see.
We have an amazing CM who will support the training also.
How's the bribery working out Its? Sounds expensive wink

Whispers, I think you are right to give it a proper go - my friend has been telling me her first day was awful too and her DD is now really great.

notnowbernard Sun 12-May-13 17:16:19

I recommend Haribo bribery wink

He's done a poo on the potty! Was farting away apparently so DP told him to sit on the potty and he did it, no persuasion required...

Might need to formally Do Potty Training now (eek)

Thanks frog smile

I thought you would all laugh me off the thread due to her age, I know that when I was PT DS, I was always a bit 'FFS hmm' to hear of people trying to PT under twos, but she is far more ready than DS was when we started with him at age 2.6!

I'm not sure bribery would work with DD, think she is too young to make the connection really. More's the pity!

Well done for today's successes grin

TheScreamingfrog Sun 12-May-13 18:17:44

Nice one Bernard! Will go in search of haribo later!

And as for being laughed off Whispers - never! You know your own child and I am slightly jealous that you be nappy free a lot sooner than we were!

I have found today much tougher than yesterday....
One more wee on the dining chair. The thing is, I feel really sorry for DD as she gets so upset and once she had done it went heading for the toilet so the connection is definitely there.

I can't seem to find a balance between asking her too often or not often enough.

Where are you up to Its?

What are you all finding?

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sun 12-May-13 18:56:44

Whispers, I read that girls are generally ready earlier than boys though. How's it going now?

bernard, a poo! That's it, you win the thread. DH dropped one of DS's poos from his pants onto the floor earlier today, then apparently looked at it, thinking 'What is that?' grin

Frog, yes, I think nappy sometimes, pants sometimes is probably confusing for them. DS asked for a nappy at naptime, which DH gave him, then he refused to swap it for pants after naptime, until he whipped it off himself later for a wee. So, a somewhat mixed day for us so far! I'm slightly happier after the nappy whipping off.

DS will be at the CM this week - she's great, and he'll hopefully be able to see some older children on potties / loos etc. So, we're going to stick at it this week, then see where we are I think.

Random potty training questions -

What potties are you using? We have a Pourty Potty, but sometimes some wee gets out. I've ordered a BabyBjorn Smart Potty.

Is anyone using training pants? We're not so far.

How do you clean a potty? We're rinsing, then Dettol anti-bacterial wiping. Is that enough? I'll give it a good clean later actually, as it's off to the CM tomorrow.

Good luck everyone.

Since my last message, before bedtime, she had another accident (wish we didn't have carpet, sob sad) and one wee on the potty. Will see what tomorrow brings! Got to pop out for an hour,so might be brave and go nappy free, eek confused

Answers to pt questions smile

We've got a basic one from Tesco, we have also got a porta potty, but used it mainly as a toilet seat for DS until we got a soft seat one. I don't think it would work for DD though as it's a bit wobbly on the toilet seat, so don't think it would do anything to improve her fear of heights! Will take it when we go on holiday in a month though smile

We're not using training pants, but DD is actually in pull ups rather than nappies anyway, so I think they are virtually the same thing confused we started using them as when she started to get interested in sitting on the toilet all the time, it was a pain to be putting a nappy on and off all the time as she would not lie still!

As far as cleaning goes, she has only weed in the potty so far, so I just rinse. I would probably use wipes if there were poos as well though smile

Let's all hope for a better day tomorrow! grinthanks

TheScreamingfrog Sun 12-May-13 21:38:46

Lol at dropped poo!
We are using a boots potty and a mothercare mini mouse one which is more of a seat affair and seems to be the preferred option although we are also using the toilet with a trainer seat.

As for cleaning, a quick rinse and a wipe for us.

I am hoping for more success tomorrow as it is CM on Tuesday followed by a night with nanny who is slightly horrified at the whole affair.... hmm

Glad your day got better.
Fingers crossed for tomorrow

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sun 12-May-13 22:01:49

Whispers, I think that our potties are different, ours is one of these, where you pour the contents out of the V at the back. It's probably quite good, but it doesn't have rubber at the base, so it moves around a bit on our laminate floor. The new one that we've ordered has rubber at the base, and a removable insert. I'll Google your one now!

Frog

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sun 12-May-13 22:06:07

Oops grin, Frog, yes, I dithered over the BabyBjorn seat potty thing... It does look comfortable, and I'm sure one of the reviews said that they could have it in their room at night until there were 4 in case they needed a wee! Then I thought, do I really want DS to be weeing in his room in the middle of the night, then going back to bed? I don't know - like so many things in parenting, you can't always tell what's a good idea until you're right in the middle of it! I hope things go well with the CM and Nanny smile.

confused At the nanny horrified by potty training!

Sorry, itsall, I thought we meant the same sort of thing. Our portable potty is the potette plus, think I got it on sale in mothercare! It is a good idea, and I'll probably find it useful when travelling. I just haven't needed it out and about much as we don't really go anywhere where we haven't got fast access to a loo. It is also fine as a loo seat, I just got a soft seat one as the potette is quite thin and hard and DS was having trouble pooing on the toilet at the time as he wasn't waiting for long enough, so I thought I'd try and make it as comfy as possible for him grin

An hour and a half in and there is one wee in the potty and no accidents grin let's hope it continues!
Wish me luck for the trip out later too confused
Hope everyone else has a good day grin

TheScreamingfrog Mon 13-May-13 08:23:24

Way to go whispers! Nothing yet.... Missed the morning wee as I was trying to ignore the fact that DD was up despite her yelling "are you coming to play" before 7!

ItsAllTLAsToMe Mon 13-May-13 08:31:41

Most of our morning wee went all over the kitchen floor confused!

Onwards and upwards.

TheScreamingfrog Mon 13-May-13 10:52:12

God this is hard isn't it!
Just off to buy some trainer pants in the hope of less carpet scrubbing!

Just putting her down for a nap. No wee accidents, and I caught a poo in the potty earlier, but don't think it counts as she was going to do it wherever she was if I had not been sat right there with a potty to hand! hmmgrin
The trip out went fine, it was to a music class at our local children's centre, she did one wee on a potty there, but I did have to persuade her.
All in all, a good day so far!
I have had a brainwave about nappies in the day. I remember now that the difference between pull ups and training pants is that it is absorbed the same as a nappy in a pull up, but training pants allow them to feel they are wet. Which is what I think dd needs to help her not to forget when she has to wear a nappy. I remembered that I have some washable nappies which I think will allow her to feel she is wet, so i have put one of those on for her nap grin and might use them if we go anywhere where an accident would be a massive pain. Will see how it goes smile
Hope the rest of everyone's days go well!

TheScreamingfrog Mon 13-May-13 13:54:13

You seem to be doing brilliantly Whispers!
We have one pee in the potty, one on the floor and a poo in the pants sooo not great!

I have just been out and bought these
http://www.thenappylady.co.uk/trainer-pants/bright-bots-trainer-pants.html

And this

http://www.thenappylady.co.uk/essential-accessories/car-seat-protectors.html

Fortunately, the nappy lady lives just round the corner from me!

I think that my stress is feeding on to DD.... I am trying to relax!

Just having a brew whilst she naps!

Could do with driving to get a new tablecloth from the nearest town (half an hour each way, we are rural!) now as we have visitors staying later in the week and our current one is shocking. Having a wobble though, don't know whether to just go for it without a nappy confused It doesn't help that she generally won't go on demand, unlike DS, you could at least get him to do a leaving the house wee to lessen the risk!
Why oh why did I pick this week?! confused

TheScreamingfrog Mon 13-May-13 15:52:03

Haha, when would be a good week!
I am now bouyed by further success with another sort of unprompted wee in a potty after a dry nap.
I went out with a carrier bag under a towel on the car seat earlier and spare clothing just in case!

Unprompted is great, DS didn't get to that stage until months and months after we started training sad
DD hasn't gone unprompted today either, but I might be expecting a little too much! We went to the shops, we were about two hours in total and I was brave and didn't put a nappy on her. No accidents grin we did a family trip to the loo in Asda where DS obligingly did a wee as well so she didn't feel personally pressured into going and she went grin
Just so confusing as yesterday was disastrous, so I still have no idea really whether to carry on at the end of the week confused

TheScreamingfrog Mon 13-May-13 18:33:14

Sounds like you have had some positives Whispers. What's your gut feeling?

How have your days gone Its and Bernard?

I'm not sure about gut feeling. I know that she is so much more ready than DS was when I made the decision not to put him back in nappies again, so my heart says that we should carry on. Also I am really worried about missing the boat a bit. The back story with DS is that he showed interest when he was just over two, but it was February, so I decided in my wisdom to not do anything until the summer, wrongly assuming that he couldn't get any less ready hmm I couldn't have been more wrong, just before we started he hit a massively defiant stage which played a huge role in why it then took over 6 months for him to be reliably trained sad I spent the second half of last year kicking myself for not just going with the flow when he first became interested. So, as you can see, this has an impact on how I'm feeling this time round, I do not want to end up in the same battle of wills as I did the first time sad
On the other hand, I can see she's not entirely on board with poos, which are the messier part of the whole operation! Am wondering if starting earlier just means many months of cleaning up rather than leaving it until later. A lot to ponder!

Hope it's gone ok for everyone else today. smile

How is everyone doing?

Another disaster day here, three accidents (one on my friend's husband's gaming chair blushblush) and one wee on potty. It's like we have one brilliant day followed by one awful day! Friends are telling me to persevere though, so we will keep going smile
Hope everyone else is having a better day!

TheScreamingfrog Tue 14-May-13 15:46:59

Oh dear, hope the afternoon is better.
DD at CM today so we shall see. No tales of woe so far.....

How did it go with the childminder, frog?

Itsall, how is it going for your DS at your childminders?

Mixed results this afternoon for us, a couple of wees on the potty, a couple of accidents and a poo in pants sad

Tomorrow is another day!

ItsAllTLAsToMe Tue 14-May-13 21:07:42

Hi everyone smile.

DS is getting on well at the CM - mixed yesterday, then much better today. She's fab, and has made up some special songs that DH and I seem to be incapable of remembering the tune to confused.

I generally resort to bribery - particularly first thing in the am, as that's a big wee otherwise! Pictures of Octonauts work quite well.

BabyBjorn Smart Potty arrived today, t'is quite nice.

No poos on target so far though! Is it only bernard who has managed that?

Sounds good, its smile

No poo successes here, although she did tell me she had done it today, so that is a step in the right direction hmmgrin

ItsAllTLAsToMe Tue 14-May-13 22:04:28

Whispers, at first our CM said it would take 2 weeks, now she says 6 shock! And I'm sure she mentioned something about a few days where he would completely regress as well...

We'll get there! <wibble>

TheScreamingfrog Tue 14-May-13 22:27:31

Sounds as if we are all going in the right direction.

Still no poos for us successfully but wees are doing great! We are bribing with chocolate buttons for every success and using a mixture of potty and toilet.

Just hoping that we continue in the right direction. I have noticed that when I get stressed about it so does DD and that is when accidents happen!

Good luck tomorrow all!

ItsAllTLAsToMe Wed 15-May-13 07:18:38

I think you're right Frog, it's hard to relax about the whole thing, but it definitely helps.

Glad it's getting better, frog, I agree about getting stressed, I was very stressed with DS and think I made it much worse sad am determined to be chilled out about it this time!

Hopefully DS will surprise you, its, and take less time! Tbh, 6 weeks sounds like a dream to me, compared to the 6 months of hell we had, and that's not even counting the 6 week regression he had at the beginning of this year hmmsad have you tried out the new potty yet?

So, progress report for today, no wee accidents, and there has been a poo in the potty!! Admittedly, she did start to strain, then grab herself and shout poo at me, so I got her onto the potty quick, I still had to change her pants, but that is definite progress! She also did a wee on the potty at the same time, but other than that, she hasn't had any wees on there (or anywhere as no accidents either!) confused she's having a nap with a nappy on now.

We have got a supermarket trip later <wobble>

Hope everyone has a successful day today!

Another day done with. One accident, although she did have to be persuaded to sit on the toilet on the times she actually went sad
Hope everyone has had a good day! We have friends visiting for the next couple of days, so that should be interesting!

TheScreamingfrog Thu 16-May-13 12:00:46

It is getting easier! Still no joy with poos but she knows when a wee is coming.
I am starting to relax smile

Glad to hear you are all getting on too. It's great to be able to leave the house again. Although our washing machine has just gone for a burton - talk about timing!

Brilliant, really glad to hear that, frog grin terrible timing for the washing machine though!
So-so here, two accidents in the morning and none since. Probably going to soft play tomorrow, I might have to give in and put a nappy on her, that could be awful otherwise!! confused

ItsAllTLAsToMe Thu 16-May-13 20:12:06

Hi everyone smile. We're getting on okay too - DS announced he needed a wee tonight, took off his pants, and did a wee in the potty! Hurray!

I am a bit daunted by going out and about with him though. I'll give it some thought tonight.

TheScreamingfrog Thu 16-May-13 22:23:48

Its all progress!
We had one accident today but - wait for it..... An unprompted poo!
Hurrah hurrah!

We have gone out a couple of times and always near toilets. DD thinks public toilets are the height of excitement while I just get all [shocked] at her touching toilet seats etc. She has now started asking for the potty as a delaying tactic too.... Clever little monkey hmm

ItsAllTLAsToMe Thu 16-May-13 22:28:41

A poo! <faints> grin well done!

Wow, sounds like everyone is doing well! thanks
Fingers crossed for a great day for everyone tomorrow smile

ThatRuddyAbyssinian Fri 17-May-13 16:22:54

We gave up mid-way through last sunday on the first day! sad. DD wouldn't sit on the potty when asked if she needed to go, and didn't even seem to notice she needed a wee. She kept leaving wee puddles around the place and really wasn't bothered! She just liked trying on new pairs of pants every time.

Not sure when to try again now? Any ideas?

But then she came down with measles on tuesday so have been busy with other things!

Sounds like everyone else is doing well though smile

Goodness, Ruddy, hope she's ok and it's a mild case. I'd definitely leave it until she's fully recovered, you have enough to worry about! How old is she? Maybe leave it a month and give it another go?

So, progress report, today there have been no accidents and a poo in the toilet grin I am delighted and definitely carrying on smile

Hope everyone else has had a successful day too smilethankswine

TheScreamingfrog Fri 17-May-13 19:48:23

Oh Ruddy, what a shame! Although that happened to us the first time and I left it for another 3 months and bingo!

We have also had a fab day - no accidents and a poo in the potty....
I hesitate to say it but I think we may have cracked it!
Just a bit more practise out and about.

I think we are all doing really well and it has been lovely sharing it with you all!
thanks

nellyjelly Fri 17-May-13 19:53:01

Ds is 2.10 and am trying to pt this week. It is hopeless. He refuses the potty at home then calmly wees on the floor. Shows no interest at all or sign he knows a wee is coming. Did a bit better at nursery but still 3 accidents.

Feel really disheartened. Don't know whether to give up or not but he is nearly 3 and starts school nursery in Spt.

What shall I do??????

ItsAllTLAsToMe Fri 17-May-13 20:39:09

Oh Ruddy, I hope your DD gets well soon. thanks

nelly, do you need to potty train before nursery starts? If not, I'd be tempted to wait 3 months or so, then try again...

We seem to be making progress in the right direction smile. There was even a poo in the potty earlier, DS looked as shocked as I did grin.

ItsAllTLAsToMe Fri 17-May-13 21:12:28

Oh my, I just read the 'I let my child wee in a potty under the table in a cafe' thread in AIBU. It prompted me to buy some training pants for longer than average trips out and about grin.

nellyjelly Sat 18-May-13 06:40:10

Do you think I should wait then? Don't know what to do for best.

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 18-May-13 07:30:06

Eek, I'm not sure nelly! Can you bribe him to sit on the potty to get him used to it? I wanted to give up on day 2, but it's improved since then. What does your nursery say?

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 18-May-13 07:32:41

nelly, I've heard that stickers stuck to the potty as a reward can be quite useful. Or let him watch TV sitting on it, and cause a big fuss?

I would wait a bit, nelly, maybe just keep the potty out and have a little nappy free time in the evening. One thing that I found helped was to mention it every time you could see they were doing it, so if he pees during nappy free time, tell him what he's doing as he's doing it - 'oh, you're weeing, you're having a wee! Look, there's your wee, you had a wee!' A bit stressful if it's an accident, but helps them to notice the sensations of their body and gives them words to associate with the sensations. You can do this when they poo in a nappy too, as you can often see them doing it!
Has the school nursery said he has to be potty trained? I'm fairly sure they can't do this as they need to be able to accommodate SN. I'm not sure though, I just remember something about that from several PT threads last year!

Its - be brave about going out, you can do it! One of DD's major achievements yesterday was going nappy free at soft play! She had done so well throughout the day that I decided to risk it and she didn't have an accident grin

Ah, forgot to say, I read that potty in cafe thread too! It has never occurred to me to do that! In fact, we went to a cafe yesterday and ended up making about 6 trips to the loo because DS and DD got bored waiting for food and realised that would be a fun diversion hmmgrin

TheScreamingfrog Sat 18-May-13 08:04:31

Nelly, I agree with Whispers. When we were looking at preschools we were told by 2 different ones that it was not essential for them to be potty trained.

Like you, I was worried and feeling pressurised but am so glad I waited till she was ready as it was a totally different experience to that first wee and poo everywhere nightmare! And that wasn't long ago either.
Good luck!

nellyjelly Sat 18-May-13 09:25:28

Ths school aren't telling me to do it, just feel he needs to be out of nappies then. This is only week one but really no progress. He has been on the toilet at nursery a couple of times a day, with alot of persuasion. Lots of accidents too though.

He ast on potty this morning but no wees. Now is refusing. He then sat on sofa and weed with out even mentioning it.! Sofa is now covered in bicarb to get rid of wee smell!

It is looki g like he is not ready isn't ? However have started now. should I keep going?

Thanks for all your responses btw. Off to buy some stickers and chocolate buttons too!

I really would take a break and try again in a month or so. It is not confusing for them to go back into nappies if they are not understanding the process in the first place. It's good that the school has not said that, try not to impose a time limit for yourself, it does make the process so much more stressful (bitter voice of experience!).

TheScreamingfrog Sat 18-May-13 09:55:53

Whispers has hit the nail on the head! I can honestly say that the more stressed I got, the worse DD got. This has actually been a relatively stress free experience (touch wood).

Just put DD down for her nap nappy-free <wobble> She has got an absorbent pad underneath her grin
No accidents yet this morning and an unprompted poo in the toilet grin

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 18-May-13 18:25:56

Yay, unprompted wees and an unprompted poo here grin!

mikkii Sat 18-May-13 18:51:16

Hi, can I join in please? Dd2 (2.7) is a couple of weeks ahead of you guys and still having accidents. Today she wee'd all over DD1, it was hysterical, nearly PMSL.

I second the comment about waiting if DS really has no idea what is going on. We had the same with DD1, left it 4 weeks and she was ready.

Today, we have had a wee and a poo on the toilet, two wee accidents, but one was because she fell asleep and I risked it. Thank god for leather sofas!

Great news, its grin

Ok, no wee accidents today at all, she was dry after her nap, although I did have to wake her to go out. That makes no wee accidents since thurs morning, so I definitely think we are nearly there smile however, there have been two poo accidents, although one of them was not long after she had asked and dh took her but said she didn't do anything, so I suspect that he didn't give her long enough to do it! There have also been two unprompted poos in the toilet today too, so I'm fairly sure she is starting to understand that now too. All in all, a good day grin

Ooo, cross posted, welcome mikkii grin

nellyjelly Sat 18-May-13 19:49:36

Ok. Today was a disaster. He did do 1 wee in the potty but think it was just a coincidence. Soooo much cajoling from me and still wet himself loads and then pooed his nappy just as going to bed.

We are going on holiday in 2 weeks time. Think I will leave it until we come back. The thought of hunting down toilets in Spain all holiday is a bit scary.

So it is on hold now. Hope I am doing the right thing.

You are doing the right thing smile Hope you have a good holiday smile

nellyjelly Sat 18-May-13 20:36:40

Thanks!

ThatRuddyAbyssinian Sat 18-May-13 21:21:36

I've been rubbish keeping up with this thread blush. In response to whisper's question, DD is 2.4 so think another few months won't hurt? It's frustrating as she's been sort of ready for months, she does use the potty on occasion. She bounced back from measles very well too, spots are almost gone. smile

I'd be interested to know if any other potty trainees here go to nursery - DD is in four days a week and they are pretty supportive of whatever we do, so was wondering how it affects the process?

Keep going ladies :D You give me hope that there's a light at the end of the tunnel!

Oh yes, that's still quite young, another few months definitely doesn't matter. Glad she is recovering well from measles, that must be a relief smile

Disaster has struck! Have had to put DD back in a nappy this morning as she has a tummy bug sad Hope it is short lived and doesn't harm her progress!
Having said that, we do have some progress in another area. DD was up for three hours in the night (sadly not too unusual hmm) and asked to go for a wee while she was up (at about 1am). I changed her nappy while we were there and it was dry. Then when I took her nappy off this morning at 7am, that one was dry too! So we will have to see how that goes, I kind of had a feeling that she would be dry at night before DS...

TheScreamingfrog Sun 19-May-13 11:23:48

Hope DD is better soon Whispers.

Hi Mikkii - that's a story for the dinner table in about 13 years time!

Nelly, that sounds like a plan. Hols are supposed to be relaxing and you won't be if you are toilet spotting!

We are doing great. One little accident at the park yesterday that involved me trying to whip a potty out under a bridge by the river - not easy trying to sort potty and stop DD falling in! Apart from that its been great. We were even dry last night and went straight on the potty this morning.

mikkii Sun 19-May-13 15:54:10

Last night DD asked to go on the toilet before her bath so that was great, she wee'd in toilet this morning before we went out for 3 hours. She went for a wee before doing some "crafts" with DD1, but has just had a wee accident in he garden. The best bit about that was, apart from no clearing up, DD1 changed her pants and shorts too.

Ruddy, DD is at nursery 2 days a week. They are supportive, but I have discovered they now throw away pants in the event of a poo accident following advice from environmental health dept! Having aid that, they have agreed to pay for any thrown away. So now, only old knickers worn for nursery or sent as spares, whilst I provided receipts for the ones just purchased from Next.

Nelly, we PT'd DD1 on holiday in Spain. We were staying in a house with tiles downstairs and knew most of the day would be on the patio, any accidents dealt with by bucket of water. The Spaniards are very accepting of kids and there were many wees over the gutter. I did use pull ups on he journey though, and may do this summer as well, depending on how she's doing.

Whispers, good to hear she is recovering.

Frog, I'm always os impressed by organised people like you, my DC all learnt to wee held over a gutter as I never carry a potty, and the potette takes too long to whip out quickly!

We seem to be doing better at night! Hat's unusual

She's still got it. Went nappy free for a few hours in the middle of the day, but it's all come exploding back again, so back in a nappy sad Not that that means it will be all held in! (Sorry, TMI!)

Mikkii, I have mostly thrown away poo accident pants, it was what kept me sane with DS, I just bought loads of cheap ones and had hand me downs from my DN, so the cost wasn't a problem smile

TheScreamingfrog Sun 19-May-13 16:39:52

grin at being called organised! Not one member of my family would ever call me that!

motherofvikings Mon 20-May-13 17:22:48

Can I join in? smile

Dd has had pants on for 1.5h now and so far 2 wees in the potty!
I think she is wee-ing on demand iyswim as she went when ds needed to and when I was explaining how we would 'do' PT.

She is 2.1yo so still v little. She has done quite a few on the potty while in nappies in the last few weeks and can say wee or poo so fingers crossed!

Is everyone else having a dry day?

ItsAllTLAsToMe Mon 20-May-13 18:41:06

Dry, but poo-y grin. Welcome to the thread motherofvikings.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Jollyb Mon 20-May-13 18:52:26

Can I join too. dd is 2.8 and we're starting potty training at the weekend. Have been meaning to try for a few months but have had a few trips away and keep finding various excuses. I haven't a clue how I'm going to approach it but hey ho.

<waves> to motherofvikings, glad you decided to join us grin

Welcome to Jollyb smile

Progress report - three wee accidents today, I think that having to put her in nappies yesterday due to tummy bug has set her back a bit sad However, there have been two unprompted poos in the toilet, so that is great grin I am pleased to report that she has recovered from the bug as well grin

Hope everyone else is doing well smile

motherofvikings Mon 20-May-13 20:43:14

Sounds like its going fairly well for most of us! smile

<waves back at whispers>

Dd got distracted when DH got home. hmm
One was when she didn't get there in time, another was probably when DH wasn't listening and she told him.

There was also a very messy poop accident. There will be no shreddies for breakfast tomorrow! hmm

grin at Mother. Weetabix is no good either sad

TheScreamingfrog Mon 20-May-13 22:07:00

Hi mothers and jollyb!

We are going pretty well here. The only accidents now seem to be caused by us iykwim.

And 2 dry nights.
Although we had a friend round for a play date today and I just seemed to spend all day taking them to the loo!

motherofvikings Tue 21-May-13 08:42:09

Wow that's great screamingfrog grin

First full day of no nappy here. I'm feeling stressy about leaving her out of my sight for more than a second! blush I must relax! confused

motherofvikings Tue 21-May-13 10:09:42

Urg! I HATE being on tender hooks (?) waiting for the next wee (or worse!).

Any top tips for getting rid of this horrible stressy feeling? confused

motherofvikings Tue 21-May-13 13:52:59

Well this morning included
2 wees in the potty
1 poo in pants - I think she is starting to recognise the 'pre-poo feeling'
AND a nap with no nappy! confused

I thought I might as well give it a whirl and see what happened...

<will be back later to moan about wet bedding later I'm sure!>

mikkii Tue 21-May-13 18:36:39

Welcome to motherofvikings and jollyb.

I missed you all yesterday, long day at work then out last night. I've no idea how yesterday went. Today we have had 3 wee accidents. She doesn't allow enough time to get to the loo, and mum doesn't move as fast as me. She seems to let the wee go as you pull her pants. Unfortunately she doesn't respond well at home to prompting, I think they must prompt at nursery, but perhaps it is seeing everyone else going?

Hopefully a better day tomorrow.

DD had a good day today, no wee accidents apart from her nap, and an unprompted poo on the toilet grin wees are about 50% unprompted now, so that is improving too smile

Hang in there for a better day tomorrow everyone! thanks

motherofvikings Tue 21-May-13 19:45:34

Mikkil - ds was the same when he started. I have no idea what sorted the problem other than time. smile

Whisper - the unprompted wees/ poos are great! smile well done!

Dd finished the day with
- one wee accident - most went inthe potty but we were outside so didn't get there in time.
- one slight poop accident. She had been back and forth to the loo and producing nothing but farts for a while then suddenly ran off. She had a small poop in her pants. I put her on the potty, explained there was probably more poop coming and after a bit of slightly panicked moaning she did it! grin shock

She has started really well (touch wood) and has had a few unprompted wees/ poo.

I am feeling exhausted though - being tense all day is draining!

Mother - sounds like she's doing brilliantly! I know exactly what you mean about the stressy feeling, I get that too, although I am a lot better than I was with DS and even find myself forgetting on occasion that DD is in pants shockgrin

TheScreamingfrog Wed 22-May-13 11:01:46

Wow, we are all going really well!
We seem to have wees sorted but poos are a bit of problem - mind you they have been a little soft so I wonder if she has had a slightly upset tum?!
Mother, I found that after a few days you just relax without worrying about it. What's the worst that happens? A little wet patch or a poo patch. Or... As happened to my childminder at toddlers yesterday, a poo unnoticed whilst playing that ended up being smeared over a host of toys!
So glad DD was not in my care at that point grin

motherofvikings Wed 22-May-13 11:24:16

Eeeeek! To unnoticed poo frog! shock grin

Dd did really well till a poop arrived with speed. sad luckily we were in the kitchen! Phew! She managed to hold the wee until I grabbed the potty as I had already shrieked "don't move!" Once I saw the poop!

I think I might ban anything with fibre for the next few days as my dc always tend towards loose poops! blush

motherofvikings Wed 22-May-13 11:25:00

Oh an I'm starting to feel a bit more relaxed too which is good! smile

ItsAllTLAsToMe Wed 22-May-13 13:51:30

Everyone's making lots of progress from the sound of things smile.

DS is doing really well, and even woke us up at 4am so he could have a wee! So maybe he's nearly ready for night training too? We're planning to keep an eye on nighttime nappies for dryness for a while.

Great to hear everyone's having some good progress grin
shock At the unnoticed poo though, that is my worst case scenario when potty training shock

Bit of a disappointing day here, three wee accidents, including the one when she was having a nap. Poos seem to be fine though, it's like she has switched confused

motherofvikings Wed 22-May-13 20:50:17

grin dd had a totally dry day today! All wees in the potty! grin

She managed a potty poo too this afternoon! smile
Unfortunately though her poops have been ultra loose so she had another poo accident after dinner.

Pineapple for breakfast was definitely a bad idea, but I'm also wondering if she is picking up on my tension and its given her a funny bum. I have a nervous tummy/ bum so dc may well have too! blush

motherofvikings Wed 22-May-13 20:54:52

Whispers - I'm sure ds did the switching trick when he was learning! I think sometimes new skills get pushed out their heads temporarily as they oil up other new skills iyswim. smile Well done to your dd though!

Itsall - sounds like he's doing really well! smile My ds was dry at night within days of him 'getting' PT but I held off night training. Partly through fear of changing the sheets in the wee small hours and partly because I didn't want to overload him! Fingers crossed he'll be out of nappies completely soon! smile

motherofvikings Thu 23-May-13 07:14:46

You know you're potty training when the dc are eating haribo before 7am!

Ds seems to have muscled in on the rewards. I had planned to just give then to dd (ds is 4 and PT for 2 years almost) but he is SO encouraging of dd - he's like her own personal cheer squad! smile

very useful when I'm flagging or still half asleep!

Jergens Thu 23-May-13 08:09:44

Can I join in please?
Starting DD today. She's 2.6. Peppa Pig pants are on and we are staying in all day... I've also got a 6mos old DS who breastfeeds loads so it might be tricky when DD needs the toilet NOW!
I have a bit of a nervous tummy! Wish me luck! smile

Welcome Jergens grin

ItsAllTLAsToMe Thu 23-May-13 08:26:59

Hi Jergens smile, good luck today.

I must be a slattern not very houseproud as I don't worry about accidents too much! A wipeable floor probably helps though.

Jergens Thu 23-May-13 09:21:05

Thanks for the warm welcome! It helps to have company!

Two pee accidents so far. DD seemed genuinely surprised that she felt wet when she peed. She then didn't want to sit on the potty. Quickly resolved by resorting to CBeebies...

Hope you're all having good mornings smile

Mother - that is so sweet about your DS grin

Its - yes, I would be far more chilled with a wipeable floor too, our carpet is ruined, no matter how much carpet shampoo I have gone through sad

Doing ok here, nearly had a disaster earlier as she announced 'weeee!' as we were waiting outside preschool (who were late opening hmm) but thankfully she managed to hold it until we got inside to the loo grin she's having a nap now, she hasn't managed a dry one yet this week, so we'll see...

Jergens Thu 23-May-13 12:50:18

Whispers - close call! Well done to your DC for holding it in.

We're having a rough time. 7 pee accidents so far (that's the bit I can deal with). But DD is refusing to sit in potty or toilet now. She says she wants her nappy and doesn't want big girl pants sad

Not sure what to do. Should we persevere or pack it in for now??

motherofvikings Thu 23-May-13 17:06:43

Well so far dd has got everything in the potty - there was a small dribble en route to the potty but most went in there as she stoppe weeping and held on. smile

However there have been NO poos! shock I am now on edge waiting for it and hoping she can get it in the potty! confused

Jergens - how's it going? Is she still reluctant? If she wasn't showing strong signs of being ready I'd be tempted to leave it maybe. Although she might change her mind if she has an accident?

motherofvikings Thu 23-May-13 18:58:57

Urg! Waited all day for dd to poop, go to get the dc's milk before bed and that's when she goes. BLEURGH!

I know this is only the third full day of PT so it's still very new for dd bit I am already sick of poo pants and clearing up! sad

Argh, I replied to this earlier and now it has disappeared angry it was a really long message as well sad

Ah well, the gist was that we had a good day!

ItsAllTLAsToMe Thu 23-May-13 23:16:19

I just came on to recommend Napisan smile - I've been soaking wet pants, socks etc in a bucket of water + Napisan outside the back door until I wash them in the washing machine.

Jergens, I don't have any advice really, but I have read about people trying to PT, having an awful time, then trying again a few months later and finding it much easier. I wanted to give up on day 2 though (but day 1 was promising).

Jergens Fri 24-May-13 05:30:07

We're going to see how it goes today. DH will be home (thank goodness!), so it'll be a lot easier. PT is so draining for all involved. If today is a disaster, we'll just stop and try again in a fee months.
DD is clearly thinking about it a lot. Last thing she said to DH last night when he put her to bed was 'Tomorrow, we put stickers on my potty?' smile
Will let you know how it goes. Hope things continue in the right direction for you all.

LeBFG Fri 24-May-13 13:20:45

HI - my 2.2yo DS has been running around nappy free for a week or so and uses his potty for wees (and for a little poo last night). I wondered if anyone has been having problems when the pants/trousers go on? DS consistantly wets his pants - it's like he needs to see his willy to check if he wants a wee!!?? If he wets or poos in his pants, he'll cry sad. So I've been just sticking with fresh-air bum for now.

motherofvikings Fri 24-May-13 17:07:08

LeBFG - Ds was like that when he PT. I think I just persevered with it but tried to make sure he was in loose things iyswim.

I am on poo watch. Dd hasn't been all day and I'm feeling nervous....
Otherwise she has been dry though! smile

motherofvikings Fri 24-May-13 20:53:16

She did it! grin

Dd was trumping away so I got her to sit on the potty. She wouldn't sit still for long though so I suggested singing. She wanted ds to sing though. So I had to perauade him this was a very important big brother job! confused

Bless him he sat and sang to her for a fair while while I cooked tea and low and behold a poo!!! shock grin

One pair of pants all day long! Am very pleased!

Welcome to BFG smile Not sure what to suggest really confused

Well done to mother's dd, great news grin

Not a great day here, three accidents sad

Jergens Fri 24-May-13 22:41:36

Well done to your DD mother!

We had some improvement today (on day 2). Not hard as we had 11 accidents on day 1!
Today there were 4 accidents but nothing in potty. At least she's holding on to pees longer though. One poo caught by DH in the potty. Would have hit the floor if he hadn't been so quick. She did sit more happily on potty and toilet today. She says that it's hard to pee when sitting as she normally does it standing. Any suggestions on how to overcome this?

Jollyb Sat 25-May-13 08:21:50

Hello today is Dday. Not a great start so far. 2 wees on the sofa. I really need to go and get some milk so think I may have to put a nappy on for a dash to the supermarket

Was interested to read that the potty training girls book suggested a gradual approach rather than the cold turkey route I thought might be best.

DP is away on a stag do - I've definitely drawn the short straw here.

Hope everyone else is ok. Jergens I think I might be on the way to beat your 11 accident record!

LeBFG Sat 25-May-13 08:43:19

What do you think best to do - I've been putting nappies on for naps, any visits out and bedtime of course. Do you think this might lead to some confusion? We're still bum-free. I think all toddlers should come with a poo siren POO IMMINENT POO IMMINENT. Something like that.

We're using cloth nappies and get wee smells out with a white vinegar wash in the pre-rinse. Cheap and easy peasy.

Jergens, it's a good sign she's holding on longer. The message is getting through! DS hated sitting on the potty until he decided recently it wasn't so bad. I think he copies his friends at the CM's.

Jergens Sat 25-May-13 09:10:19

Laughing at thought of poo siren LeBFG!! grin

I just sat down to read this thread and DD had an accident hmm I am trying to take a step back with not asking so much, and it is resulting in a few accidents, but I suppose that's to be expected! Poos seem to be sorted now, thankfully, don't think she's had a poo accident or done one in her nappy since her tummy bug last weekend.

I think it depends on the child as to whether they will be confused by nappies. It definitely confuses DD a lot, to the point where I can't put one on for her nap now, or we have a bad afternoon confused It didn't make a lot of difference with DS though!

Going to a wedding next weekend and then on holiday the week after, let's hope the wee situation gets better by then!

I also love the thought of the poo siren grin

Today has been a disaster sad complete regression, she is now refusing even when she needs it sad I feel like we've come too far now though and she does have the control, it's just her brain needs to catch up sad

Jollyb Sat 25-May-13 20:27:58

Disaster here too. Multiple wees on the floor. Refusing to sit on potty and crying. In the end I put her nappy back on. Only encouraging sign was just before bedtime when I walked into the lounge and found her nappy less on her potty - no wee though!

I will try again tomorrow but think I might try to be a little more relaxed.

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 25-May-13 21:35:29

Disaster here too! I thought we were getting somewhere! So, is there a 2 week regression confused?

I find it really difficult to not sound disappointed when DS has an accident.

Possibly, its!

Very disheartening. Will just keep plodding on.

motherofvikings Sun 26-May-13 08:17:11

Oh no! Sorry to hear that everyone had a bad day yesterday! sad

Fwiw there may be a element of dc's/us thinking "I can do it" and then being a bit too relaxed and having accidents? <tries to find helpful logical reason>

Dd was in a pull up yesterday as we went to visit my sister so a lobg car journey and lunch out after swimming in the morning was too risky. She did really well though and I don't think she actually wee-ed in it!

She did however manage to smash a lamp at my dsis' and the refused to poop until she got caught short. Some went in her pants (which I chucked) but the rest went in the potty. She was very proud of herself and kept wanting to take my (childless) dsis to the loo! smile Dsis was a bit confused

seeker Sun 26-May-13 08:21:02

Honestly, people, if they are having loads of accidents it's too soon., and they aren't ready.

Potty training isn't worth a moment's stress or one load of exra washing. Wait til they are ready and it takes no time at all. I promise!

racmun Sun 26-May-13 08:39:34

We started very relaxed about about a week ago. My ds can do it when he's running round butt naked at home but refuses and I mean goes crazy when we try to dress him without a nappy- tried commando but that's a no go either.

Yesterday I gave in and put a nappy on for going out just so he'd actually wear clothes but today I'm going to battle it out. The joys!!

seeker Sun 26-May-13 08:45:50

Don't battle it out. Wait. Honestly. It's not worth a moment's battle either!

Much better day today so far smile two wees and a poo, all unprompted smile

I do agree that if they are completely not understanding, they are not ready and there's no point in consistently doing lots of washing and cleaning up. But I do think that lots of children will be able to do it with a little nudge in the right direction, I'm not sure it's quite as simple as ready/not ready with nothing in between.

motherofvikings Sun 26-May-13 09:43:21

Definitely agree with that whispers

If they're getting it and having success then one bad day shouldn't mean quitting. Just thinking about what might have lead to the accidents - drinking more, eating more fibre, being distracted, being tired, being a PITA toddler, being away from home, being ill etc etc!

Equally there's only so long you should persevere with wet pants and no success! smile

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sun 26-May-13 14:00:03

Yep, we'd had a pretty good two week stretch, so we're definitely going to persevere smile. We've had a better day today as well.

We've had a good day so far here too, no accidents smile wonder what got into them all yesterday confused

Jollyb Sun 26-May-13 17:23:54

I think we're going to give up. DD has no interest whatsoever. Crying at the idea of sitting on the potty. We've had so many accidents today, both wees and poos.

I'm a little surprised as she's quite advanced in other ways - ie good at dressing herself. She also hates getting dirty so I thought she 'd be keen to avoid wet knickers - quite the opposite!!

Glad everyone else has had a better day

That sounds like the right thing to do, Jolly, it's not worth either of you being upset over thanks

One poo accident here. Still a lot better than yesterday, and a lot unprompted today, so that's good smile

TheScreamingfrog Sun 26-May-13 18:52:47

I think you are right about us taking our eye off the ball causing accidents. Certainly the case here - I think asking more frequently keeps it top of their minds. We are generally fine with wee but poos do not seem to register with her at the mo. They have been soft recently so perhaps that explains it following a great start....

Jollyb Sun 26-May-13 21:37:04

Quite randomly DD did an unprompted wee on the potty shortly before bedtime this evening. She had taken off her nappy. . 5 minutes later she was back sitting on the potty and did a poo. Not sure what's going on . .

As an aside how gross is cleaning out a 'soiled' potty. I made a complete hash out of it - any tips?

mikkii Sun 26-May-13 21:41:33

I've been lying a bit low this week, sorry just madly busy with work. We've had a fantastic weekend, no accidents yesterday, all wees on the toilet, including her asking. Yesterday we went to a party, I nearly bottled out and put her in pull ups but she was having one of it. A wee before we went, 20 minutes walk there in the pushchair and then on a bouncy castle (I was pretty concerned about that!) she even came and found me to take her for a wee.

Today I braved church with pants on, although she did ask for a wee partway through (she didn't do one), having said that DS also went out for a wee!

This afternoon she ran upstairs to find me to put her on the potty for a poo! This feels like real progress. Unfortunately a wee accident before bed.

On another note DH has decided he wants to replace the carpet, I'm going to try to get him to wait till the accidents have decreased.

Jolly, if he's really unhappy, go back to nappies and try in a month. With DD1, we tried, she had a disastrous day and demanded her nappy back. We waited a month, tried again on holiday and all was well.

It sounds like a bit of a mixed bag this week.

mikkii Sun 26-May-13 21:45:33

Cleaning out a potty, yes definitely a hmm job.

I tend to upend into toilet and hope most of it comes out, then dettox spray and wipe with toilet paper.

Remember that most wipes aren't flushable.

I try to get her using the toilet as it is less cleaning! I'm slovenly at heart grin

Well done mikkii, that sounds like great progress smile

Thankfully, dd is not too keen on the potty, so we have been mainly using the toilet, so haven't had too many poos to clean out of potties!

Sorry, missed your post Jolly, that sounds great too, considering the difficult days you've had! Perhaps give it another day and then see where she is?

Well, we had a brilliant day today until 5.50pm and then she has two wee accidents within half an hour confused Overall a good day though, especially as we were out most of the day and most of the toilet trips were unprompted grin
Hope everyone else is getting on ok smile

camiech Tue 28-May-13 17:59:50

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confused Wonder what that was all about!

Anyway, today we had a reverse day to yesterday, two accidents early on and then no more for the rest of the day! All unprompted, including two unprompted poos grin

Hope everyone else is getting on ok, I seem to be chatting to myself these days grin

motherofvikings Tue 28-May-13 20:01:38

Hi whispers! smile

Dd is continuing to do pretty well here. She's had a few accidents today but that's because we (the adults in the house) got a bit complacent and stopped asking her. Much like everyone else's potty regression the other day! smile

She has managed poos on the potty today and yesterday which was good but she did need prompting.

I think dd is still pretty little though (2.1yo) so I'm happy to be a bit more involved for now...

Glad all is going well with your dd whispers. smile

ItsAllTLAsToMe Tue 28-May-13 20:11:16

Hi everyone smile. We're still doing okay - still not as well as the first week or two, so I'm feeling a bit discouraged. I wonder if different approaches at home and the CM's is contributing.

Mother - yes, I do have to remind myself that my DD is still young for all this, so I definitely know where you're coming from! (DD is 21 months). I think she's currently at about the same stage as DS was at about 2.9yo confused

Its - do you think he's just lost a bit of interest? I think it can be quite exciting for them in the beginning, and then even though they have the control etc, they realise it is a bit of a PITA to have to think about going to the toilet all the time! How are the approaches different between home and the CM? Is there any way you could make them more similar if that's what you think it is?

TheScreamingfrog Wed 29-May-13 18:14:16

Hi Everyone,
We are doing great with wees but poos - yick... No luck at all! Any suggestions?

It's, my CM has told DD that she will get her some special knickers if she poos in the potty. Fingers crossed! We are reinforcing this at home.

Good day today, only one accident, at about 6pm this evening, and the vast majority were unprompted grin

Frog - I'm not sure, can you work out what the problem is? Will she sit on the toilet/potty to try for a poo or does she not want to do that? Has she ever done one on the toilet/potty? Does she know when she is doing it, or not notice?

ItsAllTLAsToMe Thu 30-May-13 08:12:29

Whispers, I think you're exactly right - the novelty has worn off, so now he doesn't want to go to the potty if he's busy playing etc. The difference between home and the CM's is that the CM asks him if he'd like to go quite often as she has to go on school runs etc, whereas we were able to stop doing that after a few days. Apparently he's never (?) done an unprompted wee there, whereas he's done lots here. But we're getting worse, not better here now. Ack.

Its, I think I would just start asking him again in that case. We had similar with DS, fine if you took him, not fine if you left him to it, so we just asked and took him for a couple of months until he suddenly yearned for a bit of control and it very quickly changed to him always telling me when he needed to go.

camilasuenos Thu 30-May-13 13:34:08

in my experience, the best is to leave him naked 3 days,,,not preasuring him to go...then 3 days after, he will have understood his body and then you can start inviting him to the toilet...also check some potty training apps..they were very usefull for my little one..and i only let play them while she was sitting over in the toilet...there is a very special calld potty animals..its very motivational!!

ItsAllTLAsToMe Thu 30-May-13 13:49:03

Whispers, yes, we ask him now - when he clearly needs to go(!) - but he gets grumpy, says No, then has an accident 5mins later confused.

camila, thanks, I'll check out some apps smile.

Hmm, tricky confused Sometimes if DS was being a bit resistant, I would say that he needed to try, it didn't matter if there was no wee/poo there as long as he tried. This seemed to work as it took the pressure off him 'performing' but once he was on the loo, he would realise he did need it after all smile I've never used them, but what about reward charts?

We had a good day, just one accident, all unprompted grin And I think that one was because we have got friends staying tonight, so she got a bit distracted by the excitement smile

motherofvikings Fri 31-May-13 07:16:46

It's - what about sitting on the loo/ potty together?
Dd still needs telling about poos (don't trust her to do unprompted poop yet). She will sometimes only do this if me/ ds/ DH go too! hmm. Thankfully ds is happy to oblige and will sing to her while she poops! shock

Dd is doing well here. One accident on Wednesday, none yesterday and in that time we went to sainsburys, ikea and the park. smile

Sounds like she is really getting there, mother grin

Doing well here too, no accidents all day and no prompting grin

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sat 01-Jun-13 09:11:28

Thanks for the ideas everyone, we're trying a variety of them smile. DS had a dry nappy this morning, and got the potty himself to have a big wee!

Brilliant, its!

We went to a wedding today. No wee accidents, but one poo accident, eek! Bit of a shame as it's the first one in over a week, thankfully it just required a change of pants and not a whole outfit change!!

Next challenge is when we go on holiday a week today! Two long car drives and a plane ride confused

I'm starting today with DS 3.4yo. He's our fourth. So we should know what we're doing. So far ...

5 wees. One on the chair, three in the garden and one on the kitchen floor. <sigh>

This is not going very well hmm

I am dreading poo-gate.

ItsAllTLAsToMe Sun 02-Jun-13 12:55:31

Eek, a holiday Whispers! I'd definitely get some training pants for peace of mind.

We were in the middle of Halfords today when DS said 'I need a wee!' shock, luckily he didn't though! We're getting on okay at the moment, but we're asking him quite often. We found out yesterday that our local library has a loo, hurray (maybe they all do?).

Good luck Tea smile!

motherofvikings Sun 02-Jun-13 13:34:29

Well dd managed to have 2 accidents while out with DH yesterday (including a poo) and she seems to have gone backwards again today. A poo accident at the park!! (Grim clean up!) and then a wee accident after lunch. hmm

I do wonder if DH is too relaxed about PT and then she has an accident and he freaks a bit (I know he does!) and that sets her back again. hmm

Oh no, Mother! We have had a wee and a poo accident today, despite being dry for a few days, argh! I really do think she's getting there though smile

Ah,sorry, Welcome to Tea! grinbrew

Thanks for the kind welcomes.

I am impressed you are all out. I don't think I will ever be going out again!

I've just heard DH say to DS "you can have a chocolate button for weeing on the toilet but if you pull your pants down next time you can have 2"

<sigh>

Eighth set of pants of the day.

This afternoon DS has progressed to knowing he's going but running to piss in anything but the toilet. He even got out of his paddling pool to stand on the edge and took aim at DS3.

It does reinforce my thoughts that he has all the understanding to go through PT but he's just being stubborn.

It definitely sounds like he's knows what is going on, just doesn't want to go where you want him to! Hopefully that means that once he is actually interested in it going in the right place that there will be no looking back and few accidents! grin

DS (older, potty trained dc) said tonight 'I did a wee in the sink!' Sadly, dh and I dissolved into laughter, so DS now thinks it's very funny, even though we stopped ourselves and told him that wasn't the right thing to do hmmgrin

Dd had no more accidents for the rest of the day, so maybe that is the worst over <hopeful>

No accidents today grin I'm not doing any prompting at all now smile

Hope it's going well for everyone else smile

ItsAllTLAsToMe Tue 04-Jun-13 21:04:07

Well done Whispers smile!

We're prompting, but it's generally going well. I thought we'd be done by now TBH though! Oh well.

How is everyone else doing?

You're all inspirational.

<channels inner brother voice> DS4 is on day 3. He was dry last night and all morning. He has an accident in the park - I think i've broken a bone in my foot and can only hobble slowly - but he still got half of it in the toilet. His bum is so pleasingly chubby he can't get his clothes down so needs an adult when he gets there. Unfortunately, after a great start to pooing on day 1. It's all gone a bit crap the last couple of days. He hasn't made the toilet <sigh>. Tomorrow all my focus and rewards are going on getting a poo in the toiletsmile

So in summary. Great week weather wise to start. He's doing ok but prefers a standing up wee. I'm getting in the way of him of him doing better and the washing machine is just keeping up wink

Any ideas for easy off boys clothes gratefully received. He's already in aged six clothes so I can't go bigger for his bum otherwise the length drowns him.

Will be going to hospital in the morning so looking forward to managing toilet training in a whole new environment!

motherofvikings Wed 05-Jun-13 08:23:55

Hope your foot heals quickly Tea! smile

We are having similar issues with poo. Unless you catch dd grimacing she isn't great with poo. Probably because its a once a day occurrence it's harder to 'learn' iyswim?

I am still asking lots but she did 2 unprompted wees yesterday so we are on track. smile

<the jealous part of me refuses to believe people who PT in mere days!> blush

motherofvikings Wed 05-Jun-13 08:25:27

Re the easy off clothes...

Ds got on best with joggers or shorts (made of similar material). I also made sure any adjustable waists were on the loose side. smile

I also don't believe anyone who does it in days... Well, unless their dc is 6 or something!

Dd not done so well the last couple of days, 2 wee accidents and a poo accident yesterday and 1 wee accident today sad
I'm off on holiday on Friday morning so need a miracle before then!

2 wee accidents and a poo here too.

grin My DS is 3.4 and it is definitely easier to do it older. Though it seems to require more rationalising of how poo and wee is made. I do not want to have another conversation at meal time about which bits of his food will break down in his stomach and how his testine will make poo from his fish/potato/carrot <sigh>

Another dry night though. I am surprised at this because physically he is very like DS3 (9) who still isn't dry at night. Perhaps he'll be like DS2 who trained in 3 days and went dry through the night at the same time. I can but hope.

The weeing problem is definitely because he can't get his trousers off alone. His butt has a shelf which he can't get his pants around. Poor chap got increasingly frantic as I hobbled towards him. He wept as I arrived as the puddle around him got bigger and bigger hmm I'm thinking a kilt.

Tomorrow he will be offered a car for a poo on the toilet and he will feel brill when he achieves it wink

He definitely sounds like he's going in the right direction, tea, my DS spent months looking distinctly disinterested when I pointed out his trousers were wet hmm
The clothes thing does sound like an issue, can you get some really loose shorts now it's (slightly!) warmer weather? I can see this is an advantage to having a girl, half the time I only have to change her pants as a dress doesn't get in the way grin Although more wee goes on the floor as no clothes to soak it upon the way down confused She did also manage the amazing feat of having an accident where her pants were wet, but the wee just poured out of the leg hole of her shorts and they were completely dry! Still no idea how she managed it! grin
At least our holiday will be in a place with wipe clean floors (must remember to pack floor wipes) grin

MrsPennyapple Wed 05-Jun-13 21:55:33

Hello people, mind if I join in? DD is 22mo, which I know sounds young, but she knows when she wants a wee, and can hold it a short time. (I know this because she is often keen to get in the bath asap, and then once she's in she does a wee - helpful!) She also tells me when she is doing a poo in her nappy, and has done for a few weeks. Over the last week she has wee'd in potty and toilet a couple of times, and once she even asked for the potty and then wee'd in it.

We were out today but when we got home I let her run around naked, and she did wee in the potty a couple of times, but she had loads of accidents as well. She was happy enough to sit on the potty sometimes, but then other times she'd sit on the potty for a few minutes but then get off and wee on the floor a few seconds later. So I left it ten minutes and then got her back on the potty, same thing again. Four times we went through that routine, each time she pointed and said "wee wee!"

Is it normal for a first day to be such a hopeless disaster? Have I misjudged this entirely? Am I being ridiculous even trying? If we do try again tomorrow, is it better for her to be running around naked, or should I dress her? If dressed, should it be knickers and leggings, or would just knickers be best?

I am due to have DC2 in 8 weeks, and I had hoped that she would have grasped the basics by then, although I know it wouldn't be done and dusted by then, and they can often regress when a sibling arrives. I just had a really hard time bf-ing DD and I can't imagine how I will manage to PT a toddler whilst bf-ing a newborn.

Sorry for the really long first post.

Welcome MrsPennyapple smile

My dd is roughly the same age and yours sounds a lot like mine when we started, so I would say go for it grin I always think there's no harm in trying as you can always go back to nappies if it really isn't working.
I'd say that the one major disadvantage to training at this age is that it will be a long time before they are totally independent even when they have the bladder and bowel control. My DS (3yo) will take himself off and be able to do all the associated stuff like undressing, redressing, flushing the toilet, washing hands etc, which dd is simply not big enough and physically able enough to do, so it will be many many months before she is totally independent. I can imagine that that would be really tough when you're trying to care for a newborn as well.

motherofvikings Thu 06-Jun-13 08:19:24

Hi penny! smile
My dd is 25mo so not too different either. smile I reckon as long as you get some success, which improves/ becomes more consistent over time then you're on the right track. smile

We are now 48h+ without poo!!! confused shock

We are meant to be going to the children's centre this am so am expecting her to do an enormo-poo within 5 minutes of arriving! I'm sort of assuming it'll be an accident as we are in a different place. hmm

Oh, I hate when you know an accident will be coming! Dd has been doing a poo every other day, and about half are accidents and half are unprompted in the toilet confused She didn't go yesterday so today is poo day! Unfortunately this means the next poo day is due when we're on an aeroplane for two hours and in the car for another two hmm

MrsPennyapple Thu 06-Jun-13 09:05:42

Hello, and thank you for the welcome.

Whispers I spotted that your DD was around the same age as mine. Missed Mother's DD's age though when I was reading through, good to know there are others here starting at similar ages.

I'm so relieved that you don't think I'm utterly deranged for even trying! I think I am going to put DD in knickers and leggings this morning, so that she can feel the effect when she wees, but will put her on the potty every half hour or so. She's out with MIL this afternoon, so I'll put a nappy on her then.

I'm going to go to the shop while she's out, to buy a different potty, as this one is a bit of a rubbish shape - she managed to wee straight over the side yesterday, poor Dolly got it in the face.

motherofvikings Thu 06-Jun-13 12:07:11

The long awaited poop arrived at the children's centre... in the toilet!

Was super relieved as it would have been awfully big to scoop out if potty or pants! smile

Good luck penny! I did pants on day 1-3 as I didn't fancy washing multiple leggings etc.

MrsPennyapple Thu 06-Jun-13 14:24:38

Thanks mother. Two big wees in the potty and seven wet pairs of knickers today. Sometimes she just did a tiny wee in her pants, and then another tiny one ten minutes later. Other times she went an hour without doing anything. She also did a poo 50% in knickers, 50% in potty, but she got upset about doing it in the potty. I did my best to reassure her, told her what a good girl she was etc etc. She's off with MIL for a few hours now so at least I get to think about things other than wee and poo for a wile smile

motherofvikings Thu 06-Jun-13 15:58:28

Nah! This PT lark gets into your head and it becomes ALL you think about.
Or is that just me? blush

Penny- Sounds like she might be wee-ing, then stopping herself but not be quite sure yet about wee-ing in the potty so she keeps doing mini wees? Sounds like day 1 is t going too badly <crosses fingers>

MrsPennyapple Thu 06-Jun-13 16:05:31

I thought that too mother, she starts to wee but then realises, and holds it until she forgets again. Hopefully it's a sign that she physically has the ability and the muscle control, we just need to get her to make the mental connection.

Hi all, just checking in before we go on holiday tonight and I am Internet free for a week, eek! shock wink

I agree about your dd, Penny, I am sure that is a feature of training a younger child, I certainly think my DD's physical control is ahead of her mental readiness.

Not had a great few days, hopefully it improves for the next week confused

Good luck everyone, I'll be back in a week grin

motherofvikings Fri 07-Jun-13 14:09:30

have a lovely holiday! grin

dd managed an unprompted poop this morning! smile
but then got caught short by one just before we left to drop ds off at preschool.

must remember that raisins are not a good idea! confused

mikkii Fri 14-Jun-13 23:43:28

Hello all, how has it been? We seem to have cracked it. Last weekend we went o a christening, tried to g DD2 to wear a nappy, no chance a wee before we left, drive 15 minutes, arrive at church, 1 hour 20 minutes in church drive home, wee, get bus, 40 minutes on the bus, spend day at a party in a bar. I took her for 2 wees, but cousins and DD1 mayso have taken her, bus home.

I was thrilled.

Last night a big poo on he toilet, it seems like we are really getting something.

motherofvikings Sat 15-Jun-13 06:49:56

Well done! smile

Fairly similar here. Dd also managed a day out/ christening laot weekend with no accidents! smile

She is doing a lot more unprompted - although when she starts grabbing her bits I usually take her. We have had a few wee accidents in the last week but she is way better with poo now! smile

I think she is also dry at night now, I'm going to wait a few morem days (monitoring morning nappies for wetness) a d then ditch the night ones! confused

motherofvikings Sat 15-Jun-13 06:50:37

Well done! smile

Fairly similar here. Dd also managed a day out/ christening laot weekend with no accidents! smile

She is doing a lot more unprompted - although when she starts grabbing her bits I usually take her. We have had a few wee accidents in the last week but she is way better with poo now! smile

I think she is also dry at night now, I'm going to wait a few morem days (monitoring morning nappies for wetness) a d then ditch the night ones! confused

Hi all, back from holiday grin

Sounds like everyone is doing really well, maybe we need a graduates thread confused

DD is doing brilliantly, she is no less reliable than DS now hmm I managed two flights with two children not 100% reliable and there were no accidents grin I think I deserve a gold medal, never mind the children wink My nerves are shot though, DD developed an amazing knack of announcing she needed a wee every time the seatbelt light came on hmm

motherofvikings Sun 16-Jun-13 20:35:24

Excellent work whispers dd! smile

Have you tried no nappy at night too? I'm going to give it a go once dd's sheets have dried - probably tomorrow night!

<must remember to buy more sheets!>

No, not yet, she is dry if she gets up in the night and goes for a wee, so I'm kind of assuming she can't hold it quite that long. I also selfishly don't want to encourage night waking so going to hold off on that for a bit I think. She is closer than DS though, bit crazy since he is 20 months older!

mikkii Mon 17-Jun-13 22:58:04

DD2 is dry most mornings, but if I take her out of nappies, I need to get up when she fusses, rather than trying in bed as long as I can ignore her!

I am trying to use up some of my stockpile, and revisit after our holiday.

motherofvikings Wed 19-Jun-13 08:05:12

Dd went to bed with no nappy last night. she was dry! grin

Feeling very proud! Which I realise is daft because night time dryness is pretty much controlled by having enough of a hormone not me or dd smile

Brilliant! Must have been a good night for it, DD's nappy was dry this morning too grin That's the first time it has happened without her going to the loo in the night smile 12 hours without a wee, that is better than DH can manage hmm

motherofvikings Wed 19-Jun-13 11:21:06

Hooray! :-)

Just need to stop dd waking 2x a night now! (No idea what that's about!) hmm

MrsPennyapple Wed 19-Jun-13 12:14:52

DD has been wandering around semi-naked and has done a few unprompted wees in the potty, plus a few elsewhere. After questioning whether we'd started too early, I'm now reassured that she does understand what we're trying to do. She still gets distressed about pooing in the potty though, so I'm not pushing her on that just now, it's early days yet.

MrsPennyapple Thu 20-Jun-13 16:04:22

Wow, a poo on the potty! DD not upset particularly, but still not too sure about the whole idea. She seems to think it's worth it for the chocolate buttons though smile

Brilliant, MrsPenny smile

DD had a disastrous afternoon yesterday, about 4 accidents in the space of about two hours confused That's about the same amount of accidents as she had had in the previous ten days! No idea what was going on, but she hasn't had any today! Think they like to keep us guessing. And not relaxing too much wink

MamandeRose Fri 21-Jun-13 12:26:42

Is it too late to join? We started today, encouraged on another thread smile. Not a bad first morning, several wees and a poo on toilet and just a couple of wet pants when it took us by surprise. DD now napping in her pull-ups (have been using them for months), and fingers crossed for the afternoon!

MrsPennyapple Sun 23-Jun-13 17:54:04

Ok, am a whisker away from giving up and admitting defeat for now. Every success makes me think she does know what we're trying to achieve, but is outnumbered about 5-1 by messes on the floor. Every time I ask if she wants a wee / poo the answer is no, whether she does or not. The successes are generally when I've sat her on the potty and got her to stay there for a while.

We did have one day where at least four times, she voluntarily sat herself on the potty and wee'd. But just now I said her name five or six times before she decided to throw a glance my way, so I said "don't forget, on the potty if you want to do a wee" - no response, and then five seconds later she's peeing on the floor, and not just a little bit.

I'm 33 weeks pg, getting down on the floor to mop up piss every ten minutes is not funny. I have mentioned to Dh that it would be helpful if he could keep an eye on her too, rather than being completely oblivious and gawping at the TV. It's always me diving for the potty, and then cleaning up the resulting puddles.

Sorry, this has turned into a bit of a rant, it's just her completely blanking me is really starting to wind me up. She DOES know what we are doing, she has figured out the connection between potty and chocolate, and she has figured out that asking for the potty is a good way to get my attention if I dare to try and do anything else, so I don't for one minute believe she doesn't understand. Ideas anyone?

mikkii Thu 27-Jun-13 19:39:34

Mrs Pennyapple, how has it gone this week? We have done really well, DD came home from the New Forest in knickers on Monday and stayed dry, she hadn't been to the loo for a couple of hours before we left either!

She pooed in the night last night so I am sticking with nighttime nappies a it longer.

Monday she moved into a bed for the first time, so bedtimes we interesting this week hmm

MrsPennyapple Fri 28-Jun-13 11:32:29

Thanks for asking Mikkii, glad it's been going well for you.

DD has been in nappies all this week. I just haven't been able to face mopping up puddles every ten minutes, I just don't have the energy right now. I can't see any way we could leave the house with her not in a nappy, so it seems a bit conflicting to try and teach her to use the potty at home, but still pee when she likes if we're out and about. I'm not really sure how to tackle it, to be honest. Maybe I need to do some more reading about the "how to" of potty training.

mikkii Fri 28-Jun-13 20:26:14

With DS he wore nappies or pull ups, but would still ask sometimes or the potty, always sat On the potty while his bath was running.

With DD1 we tried, had a horrific day 1, on day 2 she demanded her nappy. We waited a month and tried again. It happened to be while we were on holiday, we did put her in pull ups when out, but explained thy were only for emergencies, and would whip her bum out over a drain or a tree if she mentioned she wanted a wee. She came home from the holiday potty trained.

I would wait a while then try again, maybe 4-6 weeks, but keep offering the potty when convenient, such as when you change her and at bath time.

It isn't a failure, it was worth a try, but she doesn't sound ready.

DS was 2.7, DD1 was 2.4 and DD2 waited until 2.6 which I thought was late for a girl, but she seems ahead of her friends.

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