night time dryness quick help needed please

[dandycandyjellybean]

ds 5.5 still has a wet pull up most mornings. However, he is pretty desperate to be dry and wanted to try with the 'big boy pants again, please mum'.

So, double layered the bed, went through a pantomime of him pretending to be his bladder and shouting at the top of his voice xxx, wake up you need a wee, and also practised with just a night light on the landing him going to the toilet etc.

Feel that for a while i will wake him for a wee, was just wondering those that have used that method, what sort of times and how often? Was thinking of setting my phone for 10.55 (just gone down now at 8.30) and then wondered if i needed to do it again for a little while, if so, what sort of time do you rekon?

Any help would be really appreciated. Proceeding to now!

[dandycandyjellybean]

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[RAlover]

Will mark my place on this one...........am trying the same with DD although she is older than your DS.
I have varied the times this week of lifting her at night......9.30pm too early, 10.45 too late. She has had 3 nights out of 4 dry. I have no other advice, sorry!!

[dandycandyjellybean]

Thanks RAlover we can but remain hopeful, I would be chuffed with your odds though!

[unfitmother]

I can't do 'quick' help, sorry,
DS just dry now, at 13, it can take time.
Good luck!

[RAlover]

Well I am, sort of, but the deal I have with DD is 5 nights in a row dry and then the pants come off. We had a struggle tonight as she was wet last night so we are back to square one.
The thing is she is embarrased about it now, and I feel like I've got to do all I can to get her through it. Maybe should have been on the ball a bit more a couple of years ago, but I genuinely thought she would grow out of it, and time flies!!

[dandycandyjellybean]

Absolutely RAlover, ds was dry in the day at 2 1/2 and for the first few nights after he was dry. But I felt it was just a coincidence and didn't take away the nappies and I really feel like i missed the boat.

Ds is just the same, embarrassed about his pullups and desperate to be dry for sleepovers and just to prove he is a 'big boy'.

I have decided that I will stick to this now, pants on pull ups off for at least 3 or 4 months, whatever the results, just to try and help him crack it. Please don't take this the wrong way, but not sure if your 'deal' is the way to go. She really doesn't have a lot of control over it, certainly at the beginning, so offering her a carrot may be counterproductive i.e really wants it but can't make it happen. I have just ordered loads of cheap waterproof mattress protectors off ebay and am going to take the extra washing on the chin, at least for a few months and see if we can just battle it out as it were.

Sorry, don't mean to be judgey at all, just having thought it out for myself, that is the conclusion i came to for us. we shall remain, sisters in whizz and washing!!!!

[Sidge]

If you wake him to wee you need to make sure he is well and truly properly awake.

Otherwise you are reinforcing the 'wee whilst asleep' message to his brain if you walk him to the loo and put him on it sleepy.

[dandycandyjellybean]

Thanks sidge, got that, will deffo make sure he is awake and walking himself, hence the practise tonight. Might even see if i can wake him by pretending to be 'mr bladder' like he was doing tonight!!!

[RAlover]

Update DD dry last night, woke her at 10pm. Lets see how tonight goes!!

[schmee]

You can get a bedwetting monitor that wakes them up when they get the slightest bit damp. I think these are available on the NHS from when they are 7, although you might find a sympathetic HV or GP? I think they cost about £35 privately - unfortunately I can't find the site that I was looking at the other day with them on. Agree with Sidge that the child might as well be doing it in a nappy if they are weeing on a loo whilst asleep.

I've been learning about all of this as one of the my DTSs is still soaked most nights whilst his twin brother has been dry for two years now. Apparently (I looked on wikipedia) it can just be that there is a hormone that kicks in to wake them up which can take time. That's why the NHS doesn't treat bedwetting in the under 7s. Which isn't helpful if your little one wants to be dry

[pottynursey]

bedwetting is a common problem - 25% of 5 yr olds still wet the bed and is due to 2 main problems - a bladder that cannot hold on to a large amount of wee overnight and/or kidneys that produce too much urine overnight. Also all children who wet the bed have a problem with 'arousability' - their brain does not recognise bladder signals when they asleep. Children do not have to suffer with this problem as there is treatment available to help get them dry and all children should be offered treatment over the age of 5 years. NICE (the Dept Health org that gives guidance about treatments) gives specific advice about this. Most school nurses deal with this problem and many children respond to medication called desmopressin which they put under their tongue before they go to bed - older children whos main problem is not recognising their bladder is full often do well with an alarm. The charity PromoCon 0161 834 2001 provides free advice and information about bedwetting :-)