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May 2014: Newborn snuggles while we await our comrades from the Drop Zone!

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The Maybies are on the move to Postnatal! This is for graduated Maybies (and other baybies due in May but with other ideas; the almost-Maybies!) to discuss adventures in sleepless nights, nappies and lovely newborn snuggles. However you feed, however you nappy, however you give birth and however you like your tea - if your baby was born in May (or was supposed to be!), this is the post-natal club for you!

moobaloo Thu 01-May-14 14:39:51

Reserving a spot! Currently 37+3 and hoping this maybie comes before his due date of the 19th so I can join you properly!

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 01-May-14 15:37:19

Mini me and I checking in wink

xalyssx Thu 01-May-14 15:55:40

Just been to see Gabriel, he is perfectly ready to come home yay

dobedobedo Thu 01-May-14 18:27:54

alys amazing news! I bet you can't wait!

Just marking my spot. I'd really like to be a proper poster in here very soon... I've said all along that I think he'll be born in week 39, and I'm 39 weeks tomorrow. GET OUT BABY!

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 01-May-14 18:35:06

Excellent news alyss!!! You have done a fab job nurturing him ready for home :-)

Fab news Alyss you've done such an amazing job, I bet you can't wait to have him at home with you!

ohdearitshappeningtome Fri 02-May-14 08:37:03

Oh my!! Trying to organise a baby and his bag to go out is worse than preparing to go on holiday!!!

It's mad isn't it ohdear!!! We had it nice and easy because we were using the bottles of ready-made milk... now that we've switched formula and they don't make those bottles of it, our bag includes a flask of boiling water, two sterilised bottles, a milk powder dispenser with powder for two feeds in it... on top of the spare clothes, spare blanket, spare scratch mitts, two dummies, her toy rings and mirror, changing mat, nappies, wipes, sudocream, nappy bags... I'm sure I was never this good at packing before grin


Thought I'd do a spreadsheet for our arrivals. Add yourself in (and any other columns you think we should include!)

ClearlyMoo Fri 02-May-14 15:16:47

Nice thread Moomin (slightly chuffed that my drop zone phrase has survived into PN!) marking my place so I can keep on top of news. Hope to be back here soon! 38+6

mummytobe88 Sat 03-May-14 10:19:13

Hello ladies!

Still can't quite believe I'm already able to post in the post natal thread. Don't remember what it was like without her now!

Looking to see what everyone thinks...so Olivia point blank refuses to sleep anywhere other than on my/OH's chest at night. She can be sound asleep after a feed, put her down into the Moses basket and screams bloody murder, lay her on our chest and out cold again. This is the only way we've managed to get sleep since she's been home. I'm now considering getting one of the co sleeper cots as she seems to be keen on plenty contact when she's sleeping. Does anyone have any experience with the cots? My OH parents have very kindly said they will buy it for us (and ANYTHING else we want...first grandchild smile) so just wondering whether it's worth it or not.

BlanketSky Sat 03-May-14 10:30:08

marking place, one handed as miniblanket (aka Z) has done little but feed so far today, 5 days old now

cosleeper cot would be amazing, no experience but I coslept with ds for that reason. dd so far seems happy in her (massive) cot on the other side of our room! (famous last words)

Callie lifted her head all on her own three times, and rolled from her front to her back during tummy time last night shock I know the rolling was a fluke but the head lifting was very deliberate, she's getting so good at it!

ohdearitshappeningtome Sat 03-May-14 14:16:59

I find when noah is laid on my chest he lifts his head!!

He isn't allowed to yet!because im his mummy and I say so haha

Mummycherry2 Mon 05-May-14 03:52:14

Hello all, I gave birth to DS Alfie on Saturday morning, 5 days early. The labour and birth was pretty traumatic and I ended up with a third degree year. Home today and am really struggling. So tired and every muscle in my body aches. Mummytobe I have exactly the same problem as you, he is refusing to sleep anywhere but on our chests or in our arms. What do I do?!

PotatoPolly Mon 05-May-14 04:34:05

Just stumbled across this, thanks moom
still a bit surreal to be posting on a PN thread, I should only be 38 weeks today!
struggling to keep up with the ante natal thread... Will do my best with this one on top!

biscuitnoodle Mon 05-May-14 04:41:45

Hello baby Charlie born Saturday eve in the pool which I really wanted. It must be a newborn thing ghis sleeping only when cuddled, Charlie is doing it too. Hubby and I are doing two hour trades so we can sleep as I do not dare to co sleep

mummytobe88 Mon 05-May-14 12:36:27

mummycherry it's a nightmare isn't it?! Don't get me wrong I love a cuddle with her but it's not an ideal sleeping situation. My OH parents have very kindly bought us a snüzpod which is a co-sleeper cot that attaches to our bed. We tried it for the first time last night and it worked a treat!! Olivia slept the whole 3 hours between her feeds in the cot. I think being that close to us and being close enough that we can comfort her right away seems to have settled her. Fingers crossed it lasts!

Mummycherry2 Mon 05-May-14 20:08:04

I found holding his hand did the trick in the end to settle him so I'm going to do this same timing tonight and see what happens... How is everyone feeling today? We are day 2 now, still can't believe how sore and achy I am! Starting to get very teary too but my mum and Nanna said that it's probably just milk starting to come through. How did everyone else cope with their births?

My poorly little girl sad got to take her to the GP tomorrow, the out of hours people think she might be lactose intolerant sad

Mummycherry2 Tue 06-May-14 02:43:40

Oh no moomin, that must be awful sad how are you feeding her at the mo? We've had a bad night so far BUT he's just settled down and has been asleep in his basket for 15 mins... This is 4 hours better than last night so I'll take that as a victory!

mummytobe88 Tue 06-May-14 10:00:08

mummycherry glad to hear little Alfie is starting to settle in his basket. Long may it continue!!

Oh no moomin hope she's doing ok! What a nightmare

I've just had another successful night in the snüzpod with Olivia. So pleased this seems to be working!!

mummytobe88 Tue 06-May-14 10:02:05

Oh and mummycherry Friday night and Saturday night consisted of me holding back tears that we're coming for no reason at all. Just felt completely overwhelmed and very emotional. These are the days when my boobs felt the sorest from the milk!! I'm FF aswell so they aren't even getting used up.

Hope your feeling better

ohdearitshappeningtome Tue 06-May-14 12:29:49

I'm day 22 down the line, Noah takes around 4oz four
Hourly at the moment!

I've also found myself crying on occasions for no reason then I look at my little boy and know I need a grip !!

We're wimmen with raging hormones, we're allowed a slip of emotions xx

Mummycherry she's on C&G Comfort at the moment for her colic and constipation but it's done very little to relieve it, she screams and screams with the pain. I hope it's something much simpler, or even something like cows' milk allergy rather than lactose intolerance. Her dad had cows milk allergy as a baby and is absolutely fine now, whereas I've really struggled with food intolerance and gluten sensitivity even now so I really hope she doesn't have something similar sad

psynl Tue 06-May-14 18:05:30

I thought I'd post on here as I am so behind on the antenatal thread! Hope everyone is well. The last 3 weeks raced by and I have finally got a name for my gorgeous boy. We have decided on Abel.
I think he is cluster feeding today because he is doing lots of short feeds and not sleeping for more than an hour - cue very tired mummy! Hope it doesn't last long

psynl Tue 06-May-14 18:06:20

Hope everything is ok with your little one moomin

Mummycherry2 Tue 06-May-14 19:55:49

Glad it's not just me with the tears, milk came through properly today so my mum said the next few days would be the worst.

Good news with your snuzpod mummytobe! Let's hope we both have a successful night too!

ohdearitshappeningtome Tue 06-May-14 20:04:22

Noah is snuffly and his eyes look puffy :-(

Mummycherry2 Wed 07-May-14 14:26:25

Oh moom, that sounds really tough. Any better today? We had a fairly decent night with Alfie again and he's been quite settled today too... How's things with you mummytobe and how's Noah ohdear?

mummytobe88 Wed 07-May-14 14:58:53

Olivia wasn't being very cooperative last night actually! She was insistent on being wide awake after her feed instead of dozing off then got grumpy so ended up sleeping on me for a few hours. Hopefully she gets a good sleep tonight, but we'll soon see. Glad to hear things are getting better with Alfie!

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 07-May-14 15:06:50

Noah just sleeps!!hmm

She's had another poo! Baby poos are a cause for celebration in the house at the minute because they're so few and far between... she's had about 30 at the most in the four weeks since she was born. 30 might actually be pushing it sad And she seems a bit more settled today. We're going to stick it out with the milk and see what the HV says. Warm baths help her so much so we're bathing her every night, but it's causing dry skin!

Christening issues are taking over at the moment. We have family members spread all over the UK, the christening isn't that important to me and OH but it is to his family who are religious, so it looks like it's going to be in a rural church back home where his family are. All I'm fussed about is having a little do afterwards so family members can see her. There's sooo much family politics in OH's extended family, I'm not used to it - my lot are much more what you see is what you get, if you don't like it then it's your loss, whereas his are completely different. I'm not comfy with making promises to my daughter about raising her religiously etc that I know I'm not going to keep. But it's so important to OH to keep the peace sad

Mummycherry2 Wed 07-May-14 17:36:55

That's annoying mummytobe, how old is Olivia? Is the sleep a good thing or a bad thing ohdear? If he's snuffly maybe that's why. Christening issues moom?! Bloody hell, I wouldn't fancy any of that either. My parents are very religious and DH's aren't but my parents also know I won't have any nonsense from them lol. We might consider like a blessing or something that's not 'promisey' because I would feel uncomfortable with that like you. Could you see if that's an option because to be fair a blessing is what your little one is after all! Can I ask, are we all first timers here? I am, Alfie is a honeymoon baby...literally!x

I want a blessing/thanksgiving service but we're not sure if the local church offers it! And there's issues with family being able to get there, godparents etc so it's all up in the air. I'll make the sandwiches and hold Callie, everyone else can arrange the rest grin

I'm a first-timer, Callie is an unplanned 'parents were away for the weekend, was in the middle of trying to get new contraception, got carried away and forgot a condom' baby blush I can't believe the difference when I remember posting on the antenatal thread about how my parents reacted to the news when I told them, and how besotted they are with Callie now and how great everything is with them smile

Mummycherry2 Wed 07-May-14 18:10:43

Sounds like a good plan and worth pushing for moom, it's not fair to make you do anything you feel uncomfortable with.

Hehhehe!! I like the sound of that and I'm not going to lie, my conception was sort of like that too, we were planning on babies but not quite so soon after the wedding... Still I suppose its a good story and it was in the Maldives ;)

Glad I'm not the only first timer too...Alfie was born on sat and I still can't get my head around it, I've been completely overwhelmed by it all!

mummytobe88 Wed 07-May-14 21:43:31

Olivia is 8 days old now, can't believe how quickly it's going already!

moomin I hope little Callie is doing better on the new milk. Nothing worse than seeing them in pain and not being able to help.

Yup I'm a first timer too smile I stopped the pill as we were planning on having a baby maybe the end of this year and thought it would take a while to get pregnant anyways. Turns out I got pregnant the week after I took my last pill haha so Olivia is a bit of a surprise timing wise. Wouldn't have it any other way now!

My OH and I aren't religious and luckily neither are either of our families so a christening isn't on the card for us. One less thing to stress over!

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 07-May-14 23:48:15

I'm a first timer also, Noah only has one poo a day, is it worrying that he doesn't have more? Does he appear constipated? He brings up plenty of wind top and bottom grin

We had been trying for six years, two miscarriages so he was planned but unexpected, had severe abdo pain and was taken to a n e where it turns out it was a magic bean!

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 08-May-14 09:18:00

Finding it hard! Doing all the night feeds and the day feeds while dh at work. Since I got up I've done nothing but cry! Baby not taking his usual feeds either but is settled and currently laid across my legs!

Times like this u realise who your friends are and right now I feel very alone

Mummycherry2 Thu 08-May-14 10:37:05

Are you bfeeding ohdear? Congratulations by the way, Noah must be even more precious to you, no wonder you're so teary. My friend said to me if you feel like you need to cry-do it, you have been through a lot of intense physical and emotional stuff over the past few weeks. Alfie was like that yesterday, pinned me down all day and night and there was nothing that DH could do apart from regular feeds and drinks for me! Is there anyone who could come and sit with you? Everyone else survived the night? I got woken up 4 times for feeds but then he settled straight away after so it wasn't too bad and I managed to read quite a bit of my book! I do ache all over and feel like everything is bruised though sad had to have a shower at. 3am to relieve the pain . Think it's all down to the birth though.

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 08-May-14 13:42:34

No, I was expressing but I stopped he's now ff, I try to do it all as dh has a stressful job and he needs to be fully functioning! I feel I being cruel by doing it this way but dh needs to be on his game! I don't mean to push him out!

I'm just shit at being a mum

dobedobedo Thu 08-May-14 14:10:39

ohdear You are NOT a shit mum.

You're sleep deprived. And overwhelmed. And going through the biggest life change you will EVER go through. And sleep deprived. I said that twice because it is so hard to cope with!

Tell your dh that you're struggling - surely he can at least take one or two weekend nights to give you a break?! You don't get a medal for doing it all yourself.

How is your HV? Maybe give her a call and tell her you're struggling. She's there to help you. Sending you lots of mumsnetty hugs. xxxx

mamapants Thu 08-May-14 14:45:26

Hi, just making a quick appearance. My DS2 arrived early hours sunday morning. Just adjusting to life with a baby and toddler.

DS1 is struggling a bit. He is smitten with new arrival but clearly suffering from a bit of jealousy. Trying not to get too stressed but is quite scary having an unpredictable toddler around delicate baby!

Sorry to thos struggling with hormones and lack of sleep. It really is tough. But it really does get better!!
Ohdear do get your DH to help. It won't last but while it does it needs to be a team effort.

Mummycherry2 Thu 08-May-14 17:17:12

Ohdear you are not rubbish. You must speak to DH and he can take one night or afternoon or something when he's not working. You must have some time to yourself.

I agree, speak to your health visitor and just say you're finding it tough, I said that to mine today and I have DH at home helping and I'm finding it bloody awful so I can only imagine how you are doing.

Please take care and speak to someone. You must xxx

Congratulations mamapants smile hope all is well with you xx

ClearlyMoo Thu 08-May-14 19:05:13

Only browsing on this thread because obviously I AM STILL WAITING.


However Moom. Local CofE however rural or otherwise should offer thanksgiving/blessing if you prefer to an actual baptism/christening.

It's what we'll be doing.. I was "double dunked" as parents Christened me as a child but went to a baptist type church as adult so had an adult baptism too. So I'd rather our baby has the chance to choose for themselves when they are older..

The CofE have a nice order of service ready prepped and have on their website that it's an option.

You just need to speak to the vicar/parish administrator whatever the local procedure is.

The church near you website is useful for contact details etc.


ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 08-May-14 21:37:21

Almighty ducked off !!! Why do people keep telling me to give my almost 4 weeks old baby water and fucking sugar instead of a feed !!


CurlsLDN Thu 08-May-14 23:05:16

Hi everyone, after 5 days in hospital we finally got home this evening, hooray! I'm vvv glad not to spend another night in a noisy hospital, but I also had a meltdown as soon as I got home, completely overwhelmed by
1. Tiredness
2. How messy the house is (DH popped back for flying visits over the last few days, and didn't tidy up after himself at all. To be fair it's cos he was hurrying back to support me in hosp)
3. How I don't know what to do when baby cries
4. How all the feeding is down to me and my boobs
5. The need to do my first post-birth avec-stitches number 2! (Managed this one, not as bad as I feared)

Bleurgh. So baby is 2 days old, and I'm sitting in the dark feeding him while DH snores, and wondering what the rest of the night has in store for us. I didn't think I'd be tempted to switch to ff so early! Please reassure me that things get better?

Thanks Clearly, unfortunately we're Church In Wales, the only link I have to CofE is through my grandparents, and their parish churches aren't great (although it would mean getting her baptised/thanked for at the church where I was baptised which would be a nice story smile )

Church In Wales seem to be a lot stricter with some of their rules, it's an absolute must for godparents to be baptised Christians, whereas we've picked godparents who we consider good role models, close friends and people who care for us and most importantly, for Callie. Which is why a thanksgiving service seems better, because there's every chance all our godparents have been baptised, but I'm not sure if they're Christians.

It's all such a kerfuffle. We're having a religious service to keep family members happy, so we apparently need Christian godparents, but then we'd be running around finding Christians who we don't really want as godparents but it means we can have the service to keep family happy, but then we're not happy with the service.... it's so complicated!

ClearlyMoo Fri 09-May-14 04:35:18

Curls - hope the night is going ok! Thinking of you!

Moomin ok CinW. I can do that! I'm actually born and bred CinW (Christened, confirmed and married in CinW!) so on their website they basically say they can do it! See point 10 - they'll do a less religious service.

CinW does tend to be "higher" than CofE but most parishes should have a vicar or curate, or even a lay reader comfortable with taking a thanksgiving service. If they say they don't do it then you can point them towards their own website. I really hope you find some middle ground... I also think that a church based thanksgiving is a nice midway between a religious service for the family who need it and those in the family who are less comfortable with what it actually means.

If you want to PM me your location/the church where you'd want the service done if be happy to look into it further!

Mummycherry2 Fri 09-May-14 07:46:12

Congratulations Curls! I had DS1 on Saturday, had a tear and am bf so I get your pain lady! I'm home with DH (who has been fab) and was completely freaked out for the first two nights, I was even tempted to set my alarm to check on him..I resisted though! It will get better, just get into a routine and you will be well away smile

Mummytobe how was Olivia last night? Ohdear how are you doing? Everyone else survive again? I had a little boy who wanted to play at 3am and a DH waking himself up convinced he was holding the baby (it was a pillow) and needed my reassurance but otherwise I made it!

mummytobe88 Fri 09-May-14 09:38:02

ohdear tell everyone to get stuffed! Nothing worse than being told what to do with your own baby. For some reason people feel the need to tell you how to do everything! You just keep doing what you're doing, being a fab new mum smile

moomin what a nightmare all the politics around your baptism/thanksgiving! Hope you get something sorted soon.

mummycherry glad to hear your doing better with the nights etc! Olivia was really good last night, slept the whole time in her cot and went right back to sleep after each feed so I'm a happy (rested) mummy today.

curls yay for getting home!! It's very overwhelming finally being left to your own devices once your home and realising it's all on you now! I'm not BF so can't give any advice on that but once you get into a routine you'll be grand. One piece of advice, if you want to burst into tears for no apparent reason...do it! You'll feel tonnes better afterwards smile I know I did!

ohdearitshappeningtome Fri 09-May-14 11:03:56

Health visitor has been- she's lovely! She was pleased I asked her to hold baby while I saw to the dog! She's paeds trained so could answer what I asked!

I fell asleep around 10pm last night and didn't wake until the 3am feed god that sleep was amazing! Dh did the 630 feed so I just laid down while he did them. Feel so much better! Hv happy with baby!

mamapants Fri 09-May-14 11:18:18

curls feeding definitely gets easier. Its tricky to start with as you get used to getting the latch right, spacing feeds out and before you know it you will be glad of the convenience-no sterilising, packing up bottles, you can just leave the house in the morning and spend as long as you want out with no worries about feeding the baby.
If you have any particular worries let me know I'll try and help. Although I've been lucky and not had many problems after the initial stage I might be able to help.

CurlsLDN Fri 09-May-14 18:50:53

Thanks for the support everyone! Those of you who mentioned getting into a routine, what sort of a routine do you have and hold old is baby? It would be great to get an idea of how soon I can expect to find some 'normality'!

Mummycherry2 Fri 09-May-14 19:55:19

Well done ohdear! So pleased you've had a better day.

Mummytobe glad Olivia is doing well too.

Curls, I'm fb my DS he is 6 days old now. I'm finding that he feeds every 3-4 hours, I give him an initial feed for about 10 mins, then we change his nappy and then I feed him again (same boob, sorry if that's too much info!) for another 10-15 mins and he rolls off when he's ready. Then he will sleep for 3 hours or so. We try to put him down as soon as we are confident that he's not windy and he sleeps quite happily in his basket. Worked all this out on Wednesday but I think probably every baby is different, you just need to be patient and follow your instincts smile I've found the bf is really helping me feel a bit less emotional too as I get a rush of those pesky hormones when he does. Are you finding it uncomfortable or just exhausting? Have lots of bottles of water to hand and a packet of biscuits ;) DH caught me tucking into chocolate digestives at 3am last night lol!

Mummycherry2 Fri 09-May-14 19:55:59

Curls I meant bf not fb -no idea what that even stands for!

Glad you've had a better day ohdear smile

Callie's first long car journey tomorrow, two hours to go back home. I'm so excited! Going to try and convince OH that she's wearing his family Christening gown, we should have it at my parish church where they're very modern and progressive, they have a young vicar who is absolutely lovely and they'll probably be much happier to do the service we want than the church OH wants smile feeling more positive about it now grin

PotatoPolly Fri 09-May-14 20:07:46

We're FF, but at 12 days, ds1 wakes, nappy change, takes some bottle, winds, takes more bottle, winds then down in his Moses basket and he sleeps for around 3 hours. DH & I take it in turns (roughly) to do the feeds so the sleeper gets around 6hrs unbroken, which is heaven!

Had some photos done of him today, managed to spend £230... Eek!

mummytobe88 Fri 09-May-14 22:23:59

potato that's exactly the same as my routine! The only thing is I'm the one who does all the night feeds as OH is still not confident changing nappies lol this is the first time he's ever had any sort of contact with a baby!! I'm getting him well trained throughout the day though and I get a nap in the afternoon smile he'll soon be doing his fair share of nights!

moomin glad you're feeling better about it all now! Good luck on the car journey

Mummycherry2 Sat 10-May-14 00:41:25

Good work moom, sounds like you've got that situation in hand now ;) hope the car journey goes well... I've haven't been out the house yet!

Mummytobe sounds like your on course for training OH.

My DH hurt his back today so we are both literally crawling up the stairs. DS has decided to cluster feed today so has pinned me down for the past three hours and now finally seems to be settling. Not holding out much hope for tonight sad we are day 6 now. Anyone else have a growth spurt then?

ohdearitshappeningtome Sat 10-May-14 01:13:50

We're day 25/26 and were
Roughly on 4oz and he sleeps between 3/4 oz! Once he's fed nappy change and winded then put
Back down! He's used to this as that's what they did on nicu!

He's started lifting his head when he's laid on my chest,
Is that normal?

ohdear Celyn does it, she seems to think lying on our chests = tummy time. Until she tires herself out and falls asleep!

ohdear Celyn does it, she seems to think lying on our chests = tummy time. Until she tires herself out and falls asleep!

ohdearitshappeningtome Sat 10-May-14 10:42:54

For then who are mummies now. Did you send thank you cards to them who sent gifts?

PotatoPolly Sat 10-May-14 10:48:14

I will be ohdear, (well I aim to) but just haven't got round to it yet!

ohdearitshappeningtome Sat 10-May-14 13:23:51

I counted I need over 50!!

mummytobe88 Sat 10-May-14 14:00:53

I'm planning on sending some out too but just not got round to it either! Although I reckon I'd need about the same ohdear. It seems people are very generous when it comes to babies!!

Mummycherry2 Sat 10-May-14 17:54:27

Same here ohdear! Planning to send but not managed it yet...my friend has made me cards though so all I have to do is write them. Had bloody DH's family here all afternoon, just wouldn't take the hint to go. In the end I had to take myself upstairs for a sleep as I was so exhausted. I love having people round but I've been really clear, no longer than half an hour at the moment as it's too much for both of us. Am I being really mean sad?

mummytobe88 Sat 10-May-14 18:15:22

mummycherry you're not being mean at all. That's one of the reasons that we've been taking Olivia to see the family at their houses that way we can get up and leave whenever I've had enough. It's exhausting enough without having to entertain guests on top of it all! I can only imagine how you're feeling though considering your BF so must be in event less sleep than me if Alfie is feeding non stop.

ohdearitshappeningtome Sat 10-May-14 19:04:57

I went to my friends and her little girl started crying when I left!hmm

ohdearitshappeningtome Sun 11-May-14 01:15:27

Trying to find a baby group is hard work when there nothing available !!

Cat39 Sun 11-May-14 09:29:22

Hi, new here (and to posting on MN generally) and not sure if it would be ok to join this thread (I gave birth on 6 May but wasn't on the drop zone thread)? No worries if not-don't want to intrude.

welcome cat! anyone can join, being on the antenatal thread isn't a requirement smile no rules here (in fact a few of us didn't have our babies in may at all so if there were rules we wouldn't be allowed here!) smile

PotatoPolly Sun 11-May-14 13:18:52

hi cat! Nope no rules here, welcome aboard smile tell us about yourself (if you can tear yourself away from newborn snuggles for long enough!)

CbeebiesIsAboutToPop Sun 11-May-14 14:02:07

Hello all, just found out we have a pn thread! (I think you started I while I was giving birth!!)

I haven't told my birth story and don't want to take up lots of room here, but if your interested you can read it on my blog here

Hopefully I can keep up better with you all here than I did on the antinatal thread!

LongTailedTit Sun 11-May-14 16:09:38

Ditto Cbeebies, had no idea this one had started blush

TinyTit is 3wo and very very spotty!

SarahJinx Sun 11-May-14 21:09:15

Ditto cbeebs and ltt I also missed this thread in the furore if having an actual baby!!

congrats to all of us out the other side. Alice was born at 10.50 am on Wednesday, she was 9lbs7.5 and it was a quick (5 hr)labour with just G&A and we came home on,the same day.

Things going well: she appears to have found a little routine all by herself of feeding all morning, sleeping from around 12/1 for about four hours and after that is content to feed /sleep /feed/sleep. If she fed all evening then slept in this pattern all night, we'd have it nailed! At least I'm getting a break.

not so great,we have latch issues, my nipples are incredibly sore and bleeding hoping mw can fix me tomorrow as i so want to keep going but it is SO painful. And Ds, he's 3 and is er, challenging right now. Great with his sister, but really playing up. My temper is short with tiredness and i am not great at being his mum at the mo, hating self and hoping it will get easier.

Am going to have a read through now and come back , but for those of us struggling, this bit is HARD first timer or not but it changes really quickly, it will pass sooner than you think x

LongTailedTit Sun 11-May-14 22:35:14

Ah Sarah, sympathies on the 3yo front (and all others too obv!), DS1 just turned 3 and we are really struggling with him too. DH is worn down by him at the mo, so I've had a weekend of grumpy husband and toddler - what fun hmm. I finally lost my patience with them both this evening, there's only so much I can take!
He'd been promising me all week that he'd take DS1 out for the day today to give me a break and time to concentrate on feeding with DS2, but was too tired in the end, and didn't even take him out when he went food shopping - poor kid was stuck indoors with me all day again, no wonder he was fractious. Preschool tomorrow thank goodness, he'll have a fab morning there at least.

On an entirely unrelated matter - I'm a bit worried I might have a prolapsed something-or-other...
Three and a half weeks postpartum now, and still have a feeling of pressure when I stand like I'm passing a golfball, uncomfortable to sit in certain positions, and just feel like somethings trying to escape still! Plus, sorry, TMI, things don't look right...
Any opinion on whether I should contact my GP now, or wait til my 6wk check and see if it'll resolve itself? 3wks PP is still early-ish days really isn't it?

SarahJinx Sun 11-May-14 22:52:06

LTT' I have no idea what that is but I would certainly be talking to gp asap! I agree that things need to settle but not sure about the golf ball thing!

You could always call and talk to midwife to ask for advice?

Do you mind me asking in what ways your DS is challenging? I'm finding mine is like a different child at times, he's so very tiny still and i have to remind myself he was my baby until Wednesday, how on earth must he be feeling? Especially when i shout at him....I keep bloody crying when i think about it.

His behaviour is general not listening at all, flying about the house in a rough way, bashing about, shrieking and having no attention span at all, tiny boy on crack...

we were the same today, cooped up because if the rain, I'm dreading DREADING dp going back to work sad

LongTailedTit Mon 12-May-14 00:02:13

Good point about asking the midwife - I'll call someone tomorrow, then they can decide if I should wait it out or not!

Re DS - well, he's just attention seeking really, lots of shrieking, shouting, hitting us, then when on the naughty step for hitting he bangs the stairgate on the wall and shouts at us that we're naughty - just challenging every little thing.
He's a pro at ignoring us and refusing to eat, but tbf that was a problem before DS2 arrived. He's also talking about violent things which worries me, he's said some horrid things like he wants to "squash baby brothers head" "want to break you/daddy" - not sure what to do about it all apart from watch him like a hawk! sad
We're having lots of hugs and praise in between trips to the naughty step, and letting the more minor stuff slide but tbh the serious stuff is fairly constant at the moment (hitting/rudeness/deliberate spills etc).
He misses the limelight, and is v frustrated that I can't come to him straight away when he wants me. I keep trying to explain that DS2 isn't having a cuddle, just a feed, but he's not convinced.
I suspect this will go on for months, not weeks...

One good thing tho - at preschool pickup the other day, I left DS2 with a friend at the gate while I went in to collect DS1, and when he came out he was really really insistent that I should hold DS2 not my friend. He was only happy once I got DS2 into the sling - seems to be getting a bit protective of him!

ohdearitshappeningtome Mon 12-May-14 04:54:05

I think me and mini me need to hibernate away from the world for a bit after a busy weekend!!

Spirael Mon 12-May-14 10:13:10

I had that feeling of pressure down below after giving birth last time around, LTT. I had it checked, but was told everything was healing fine and it was all normal. I can't remember whether you tore at all and needed stitches?

Took until around 6 weeks before it started to fade, IIRC, but it did disappear entirely and eventually everything returned to normal working order - albeit a bit less symmetrical and pristine as before. wink

Not much to report here, still pregnant with no indication of that ending any time soon! But if it's like last time, I won't be getting a whole load of warning. confused Only 37+3 though, so plenty of time yet. If I make it to next Saturday however, I'll be more pregnant than I've ever been before!

LongTailedTit Mon 12-May-14 14:10:52

Thanks Spirael! I called my midwife this morning, she said it could well be a prolapse but might still self-resolve so not to be too worried. I'm to call my GP and discuss it over the phone, if I can ever get thru!
I did tear, 2deg, and my stitches aren't all gone yet, but both sitting and standing/walking are still uncomfortable, which is why it's bugging me. Still bleeding too, tho I bled for 4wks last time so not too bothered about that yet.
Aaargh - best go find my hand mirror and check out the stitches situation again before I get my call-back from the Doc, they'll prob want to know exactly what's what. Eeeyeuch....

Mummycherry2 Mon 12-May-14 17:01:10

Hi Longtailed, Sarah and cbeebies! Congratulations to you all and spireal here's hoping your wait isn't too long.
I know the feeling ohdear... My weekend was like that. Back to square one with DS and the sleeping, last night was the worst yet, he was up every two hours! I thought my head was going to explode this morning!!
How's Olivia doing mummytobe and how was the car journey moom?

I feel like a rubbish mum sad Callie has only pit on 4 lbs in 10 days, the HV says she should definitely have put more on. she's down from 50th centile to about 35th sad I've got to take her to GP and back to HV sad

Spirael Mon 12-May-14 18:02:19

Don't panic Moomin, you're definitely not a rubbish Mum! Callie is gaining and not losing for a start, even if she's not gaining an ideal amount for their charts.

They'll just be being cautious, hence the extra appointments. In the meantime just keep offering milk regularly - maybe a bit before she usually gives you the signals for feeling hungry to try and encourage her to feed more frequently?

Remember as well that weights can be a bit fuzzy at this stage, as if she was weighed just after filling her nappy and emptying her bladder but before taking a feed then she'll be several pounds lighter than if she'd just taken food and not yet expelled any!

Spirael Mon 12-May-14 18:03:21

Oops, I mean several ounces lighter. Several pounds would be one hell of a nappy/feed at this point!

Mummycherry2 Mon 12-May-14 18:21:41

Oh moom sad you did say she was struggling with allergies so it must be a result of that. Not your fault at all my lovely, these things can't be helped. Xxx

ohdearitshappeningtome Mon 12-May-14 19:31:26

Moomin your not a crap mum! Weights are for guidance only, extra appts are for support.

Does callie wake for her feeds? Have you noticed her increase in ounces? When Noah was being fussy we offered little and often, so at one stage he was taking 2oz every two hours unt he realised he needed To make effort too!

Keep your chin up chick xx

SarahJinx Mon 12-May-14 22:35:42

Ah bless you Moomin, the weight thing is a bugger, it's the thing that you 'think' says baby is thriving and that you're doing ok. Age with the others, try not to worry, she's gaining and that's good, hopefully this will help you get the allergies fixed .

LTT I hear that yeuuuch, had to get my stitches checked today too, also a second degree, it's all fine but that, "lay on your side and part your bum cheeks" job just is not a sent pence you want to hear eh? What's wrong with us, we've just given birth, why so coy??!!

A has lost 5% of birth weight which I thought was loads, but they only query anything over 10 in the first few days apparently. She has an oozy, possibly infected cord and a sticky eye! She's still bloody scrumptious though.

BlanketSky Tue 13-May-14 14:16:35

Sarah I could have written your description of DS, mine is the same. Today is our first solo day and so far, we are surviving, aided by MiL dropping in at lunchtime swiftly followed by the health visitor! He's been very good independently building/playing train track. Just 4 hours or so to go...

moom if she is gaining try not to worry too much, easier said than done I know.

MiL coming back later to take me to the GP as I think my cs scar is infected. As if things weren't crap enough already with mobility and pain.

LongTailedTit Tue 13-May-14 22:16:57

Evening ladies!
Re the prolapse thing, I spoke to my GP today and she confirmed that it's really early days still and too soon to consider it a problem. She advised lots and lots of pelvic floor exercises, and is seeing me in two weeks so will have a look then.
Fingers v firmly crossed that it's going to fix itself!
Just FYI, to do your PFE you're meant to be able to stop your wee mid-flow - I can't, but I can slow it down a bit, so that's a start apparently... hmm

Moomin How're you doing today? Hope you're feeling better - you couldn't be further from a rubbish mum, you really aren't. Either Callie is just establishing her natural weight centile (some are born heavier than their 'natural' weight and drop down to it before they start to gain steadily), or she's just having some issues that you'll help her get sorted - either way you're there for her.

Got to go - DH is sleeping on the sofabed for now and says it's time for bed so I'm being evicted from the living room! smile

SarahJinx Wed 14-May-14 04:13:45

LTT good that you spoke to the gp, i realised earlier that I've totally forgotten pelvic floors cant stop a wee mid flow here either
Blanket its so hard eh? Can't imagine how much harder with reduced mobility either, hope your scar improves soon.

Baby A os feeding two hourly tonight, it is killing me.

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 14-May-14 04:27:52

Mini me normally
Takes 5oz and sleeps around 4hours he's just messed around and took 3oz, any point in going to sleep ?

SarahJinx Wed 14-May-14 06:37:33

Oh good lord, back again. I've broken her by saying how good she is!


ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 14-May-14 07:03:51

We're also back!! Knew that would happen after 3oz

SarahJinx Wed 14-May-14 07:46:03

Worse, she's wide awake! Generally goes back to bed. It's goings be a loooong day....

Mummycherry2 Wed 14-May-14 07:59:42

Ohdear and Sarah, I'm in exactly the same situation here with DS!! Got health visitor coming at 9.30 so I guess Id have to get up soon anyway... But that could have been an extra half hour! Wide awake here too now so playmat here we come.

Never knew that about PF excercises- thank you! I had a 3rd degree tear and apparently I have to go to physio. I'm a little disturbed as to what this may entail. Anyone got any ideas?x

dobedobedo Wed 14-May-14 08:21:48

Yay my first qualified post in here as a postnatal person and not pregnant! smile

How's it going? I'm sleep deprived. (no shit sherlock). I managed about two to three hours since 8pm last night though, so feeling slightly better than the night before. Feeding was a bitch last night though. We can't get the latch right and every time he started feeding, I wanted to turn inside out it was so sore. I'm gonna have to get some serious help from the midwife when she comes.

I mean, I bf ds for almost 3 years. I should be able to do this with my eyes shut, and I know the theory! Just practically, it's not working out like it should. My poor nipples. Hope it gets sorted soon.

One other wee (ha! Pardon the pun) issue I have. Since having ds, I haven't needed to pee. My pelvic floor is rock solid, I'm very lucky, I didn't tear or graze or bruise or anything. But it was about 15 hours after having the baby that I peed for the first time, and only cos the midwife nagged me to sit on the loo. I honestly had no urge. Since then, I've only peed when going to change a pad, I haven't actually felt the need to go. I didn't have a catheter or epidural or anything so it's not like that caused nerve damage.

Anyone else experienced this? I have to keep reminding myself to go to the loo every hour or so. I'm afraid my bladder will burst or something if it's very full and I'm not aware! God knows how my pelvic floor is keeping it all together. I really don't know.

Sorry for the rambling post. I don't mean to moan! I really am very happy. Totally smitten with ds2! He's just so perfect (for a baby that seems to hate nipples and wants them to die grin)

SarahJinx Wed 14-May-14 09:03:46

That nipple pain is like nothing else on earth. You could slice them off with a razor and it wouldn't hurt any more? A week in and we're just out the other end. I bf DS too but just couldn't get it right with A, mw said its her not me, she's a lazy latcher and needed training!! Getting better daily.

ohdear and cherry still feeding shock what is going on???

Mummycherry2 Wed 14-May-14 09:17:16

Just finished Sarah! So much for a quick clean up before HV arrives! Will only just have time to down a cup of tea!

SarahJinx Wed 14-May-14 10:20:44

Cup of tea is far more important x

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 14-May-14 12:15:31

Mini me has spots all over his neck face and eyes so taking
Him to the doctor this afternoon!

Why is it when older people like my granny feed the baby they shake the bottle in the mouth and announce they won't take it 5mind After starting and then taking it out the mouth!!!

First post-birth neurology appt today and the first time going on my own sad if I can avoid an MRI or any other type of scan I'll be happy, but the headaches and vision problens are worse! Hmph. Think I'm in that mood where the world is against me.

I also have to book a blood test for coeliacs, which would be fine but after the horrendous experience of tryibng to get a cannula in, taking six tries and a blood clot, steroid jabs and local anaesthetic for the stitching,I may have a teeny tiny fear of needles now. I'm putting off getting more iron tablets because I know it'll mean a blood test. I've never been scared of needles before in my life! sad

Me against the orld today... the world has won and I require cake.

Mummycherry2 Wed 14-May-14 13:14:34

Oh moom, you're really having a rough time aren't you lovely. Try to keep your chin up. It sounds like cake is definitely needed and the chocolate variety smile best to get checked over and then they can work out how to help you.

Ohdear, that doesn't sound good. Let us know how you get on.

Sarah, tea was not managed so when the HV arrived she was thrust DS so I could make one and guzzle it down. I said to DH that this is his job while on paternity leave, to keep me fed and watered but he is too busy mucking about with his fish tank project sad he is driving me nuts!!!

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 14-May-14 13:22:04

You have a new born and he's fannying around with fish tank!!!! shockshock I couldn't get dh to leave mini me alone when he was on leave I couldn't wait to get him back to work haha

Mummycherry2 Wed 14-May-14 18:53:56

Tell me about it ohdear! He's driving me insane. When he's not mucking about with that, he's bouncing the baby around getting him all excited. I've told him if his fish tank isn't sorted by the time he goes back, I will be binning any parts cluttering up my lounge and kitchen because I'm struggling to get the pram through! Bloody men!!

McBaby Thu 15-May-14 08:20:01

I was v surprised how painful the initial latch pain was ours lasted 2-3 weeks and then just stopped. I think I kind of assumed that as I fed DD1 till 6 months ago that it wouldn't hurt nearly as much.

One more essay to finish tonight and hand in tomorrow, and then my maternity leave can 'officially' begin grin

Isean Thu 15-May-14 10:08:40

Hello mummies!
I've been in such a baby bubble I didn't even realise there was a post-natal thread!
How's everyone getting on?

I'm tidying the flat, doing washing and baking cupcakes (and playing with Callie, of course grin ) to avoid doing this essay. I really really want to get this year finished but I can't get my head into student mode sad

dobedobedo Thu 15-May-14 16:14:06

Cabbage in my bra and am currently defrosting tomorrow's dinner on my boobs. Which are fucking humongous now! Ouch. sad
Little Jesse is feeding well though. However we are still working on the latch. I wish I could spray my nipples with anaesthetic to avoid that initial latch pain. It makes me want to crawl into my own arse and die.

People keep wanting to visit. It's really getting to me. I haven't slept, my spd is still quite bad, I have a constant headache and I'm still very dizzy when I do anything physically exerting like, oh, having a shower or making a sandwich. Can't they just wait a couple of weeks so I don't feel like a selfish prick by putting them off?!
Dh is great though. Don't know what I'd do without him. And ds1 is smitten with his new baby brother. We all are! He's such a lovely, chilled baby.
Even though I'm exhausted, I am aware how fortunate I am. I just can't believe he's still finally here!

Flixy102 Thu 15-May-14 19:42:10

My boobs are like rocks too, ouchy!!

How's everyone getting on with their hormones? DS is 10 days old now and I'm so up and down, especially in the evenings when I'm extra tired and wondering what kind of night and is ahead. DH is being great and doing loads around the house but I'm still quite tearful and scared about when he goes back to work and I'm on my own all day. I know its still early days and a massive life change so I'm just taking it one day at a time and hopefully it'll get better!

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 15-May-14 20:40:27

Mini me has lots of spots, he's on three type of treatments for them for different area! He isn't phased by them at all

LongTailedTit Thu 15-May-14 21:54:25

ohdear - TinyTit is v v spotty too, but no treatments have been given or suggested, the docs and midwives have all said they're just normal newborn spots that'll ease off eventually, Erythema Toxicum. Looks awful tho!

dobe I love that description! "Crawl into my own arse and die" just about sums it up eh! My latch pain has improved massively in the last couple of days, and DS is 4wo today, fingers crossed yours gets better quicker than that.

Flixy I've been pretty lucky this time and seemed to skip over the baby blues bit (they hit me hard at day 5/6 after DS1), but the hormones are affecting me just as much physically as they did last time - terrible sweats and insta-BO however much I wash. I feel horrid, could happily live in the shower. Also got an unpleasantly dodgy bottom at the mo, also down to the hormonal ravaging. hmm

Callie's really spotty, having looked at the websites it looks like baby acne. I just wash it once a day with water and mild baby soap, and then she has a bath daily because she loves it so much. Just trying to keep her pores open and clean as much as possible.

I could cry. In fact I have cried. Night before my final assignment is due in and my laptop has deleted it all, and replaced it all with 13 pages of the # symbol. No way of recovering it, I've checked. So that'll be hanging over my head all summer as I try to re-do it, and then my marks will be capped at 40, dragging my overall mark down really low. And they don't count computer issues as a reason for late submissions, apparently. My computer has nearly been thrown at a wall but motherhood has mellowed me somehow blush

I'm absolutely gutted. I'd done over 3000 words.

LongTailedTit Fri 16-May-14 00:37:06

Oh my goodness Moomin, that'd make me weep! Huge sympathies.

The doc we saw today said not to use any soaps on the spots if possible, just plain water, but to be honest he's only had two baths ever anyway! Wipe downs with water seem to be doing the job fine, but I guess we'll start doing baths nightly once he's got more of a bedtime routine.

CbeebiesIsAboutToPop Fri 16-May-14 09:11:46

Moomin, could you not blame motherhood as a reason for late submission? Technically it is motherhood as I'm guessing if you didn't have callie you'd pull an all mightier and redo it. But having a baby makes that very difficult

ohdearitshappeningtome Fri 16-May-14 09:27:53

They reckon mini me spots are seat rash on head as he has so much hair plus he is forever being cuddled when my family visit! Now decided it's time to stop he isn't a man handled child! It won't go down well but shit happens

Cbeebies I was pulling an all-nighter, managed to do another 2000 words from scratch, and my computer froze and corrupted it all again sad think I will have to put in a request for an extension and say it's because of motherhood sad

Thanks x

ohdear I can sympathise! I've gotten sick of playing pass the parcel with Callie... not going to go down well with the ILs who pass her around constantly but hey!

wm3010 Fri 16-May-14 11:15:47

Morning all, lovely to see you again on post natal, can hardly believe we've made it - doesn't that first maybies thread seem so long ago?!

Sorry to hear some are struggling, we have been really lucky so far as Marnie feeds a lot and will usually sleep in between. Sometimes only get an hour mind you, but have managed a couple of three hour stretches now which make such a difference as I can then actually sleep 2 hours in a row... Dh is being a star, bringing me food and drinks and will do all nappies. Can also be prevailed upon in middle of night to re- settle her if I am struggling. He has an amazing ability not to really hear when she wakes which means he is getting reasonable sleep and although he feels guilty about that it's good as I feel ok with having him do everything during the day. Bf ok so far, shame it has to be all mummy's job but hey ho. Latch is uaully ok but despite that nipples are sore - I guess it's not always perfect and even if it was the sheer volume of usage is a bit much for my poor sensitive nipples!

I had the shakes a couple if nights ago, anyone else had this? Is it just a hormonal thing do you think?

Big hugs to everyone, moomin you are amazing as always. Even with a relatively easy baby (so far) it is taking all my time to get a shower and eat three meals a day.

ohdearitshappeningtome Fri 16-May-14 12:54:25

Mini me has gone out with my mum for the afternoon, he's been gone ten mins and I'm lost already

dobedobedo Fri 16-May-14 15:05:06

I'm so fucking fucked off. I've spent the day crying my eyes out. Breastfeeding is so painful, and I think ds has lip and tongue tie. I'm a fucking mess and MIL is coming round. I don't want to see anyone! I've told dh I don't want anyone here. Not when I'm at the end of my rope. But she wants her fucking cuddles before she goes on holiday for two weeks.

I've told him I'm not seeing anyone. She can see ds downstairs and dh can bring him up to me to be fed. It fucking sucks that I have to compromise by being separated from my baby. It's selfish. I'd never impose on a new mum. What is wrong with people?! Why can't they wait a couple of weeks until things are easier? I mean it's in the baby's best interests too that his mum isn't such a complete mess. But fuck what's actually best for baby or me, as long as they get their bloody cuddles. And it fucks me off that she wears such strong perfume. It makes ds stink sad

Bad day sad sad sad

ohdearitshappeningtome Fri 16-May-14 15:20:05

Awww Dobe! Sorry it's a bit shit for u! You have made your position clear! Why don't u use this time to have a lovely bath and relax and give your breast a good massage in preparation for your next feed?

Jellymum1 Fri 16-May-14 15:41:50

oooh I didn't realise there was a pn thread. hello all im off to read how you are all doing xx

Jellymum1 Fri 16-May-14 16:05:07

im rubbish with names but will try.

blanket my csec scar was a little moist and itchy I got some tea tree and put a couple or drops in a nice warm bath and it seems to have worked wonders. going to do again today (also soaked my very sore breasts!)

moomin I hope you are ok. you are being put through the ringer lately! sending hugs.

hope everyone else is ok. my baby was cluster feeding from around 7pm to 7 am sad I was so sore and exhausted and constantly sobbing and today I decided to go on formula. I felt terribly guilty at first but at least dh can help in the night and we can invest in a dummy if she carries on being so unsettled poor dd1 is 4 and has found me sobbing uncontrolably twice. and my blood was starting to run cold at the signs of poppy needing a feed. I had dreadful pnd with dd1 that I ignored for 18 months and ended up rock bottom. no way im going there again. dh had been fab and so supportive but hes back at work next week and I have to do school runs again and just couldnt see myself coping. hats off to anyone still bfing its so bloody painful and hard! I had a hard time cominf to the decision but now its made im feeling better.

sambababy Fri 16-May-14 18:12:46

Hello mummies! I don't know how you find the time to keep up with the thread with your LOs.

Today is our first day at home without DH shock Lucikly Sofia slept in her carrycot just long enough for me to eat some lunch but it's hard. I spent over an hour earlier desperate for the loo but knowing if I put her down she'd wake up and want feeding again, so I waited blush

moomin I remember a similar thing happening when I was at uni, I feel your pain! Whatever you do don't trust that PC again!

The crying is starting, my time is up x

wm3010 Fri 16-May-14 18:54:02

dobe I hope mil is now gone and you have your baby back. It really drives me mental that some people feel they have rights to visit. My pil live abroad and fil hasn't spoken to either me or dh since we visited in February after a ridiculous huff for no good reason. He made our last holiday as a couple a misery and the stress was causing me to have palpitations. Then when Marnie was born announced he was coming to visit -and dh let him! Spent yesterday crying about it, thankfully they came late last night and I was asleep so dh took dd down to see them. Today had to go for lunch and be civil, it was very hard and I am so angry that I was forced into the situation. Dh just says we have to be the bigger people which I accept but surely less than a week after birth I should be allowed to only see people I actually want to see?!

jelly that sounds horrendous, sounds as though you have made the right decision. I am bf and we are doing ok one week in, learned this morning that dd is 10g off her birth weight so really chuffed with that and it has spurred me on. However, I think we have been really lucky with dd in that she had a pretty good latch straight away and she seems efficient, usually only feeds 10 or 20 mins. Worst cluster feed so far is an hour and a bit, usually is at least an hour between feeds. I have sore nipples but nothing worse so far. So I will persevere for now but can't take credit really. I think in your shoes I would do the same.

Hope she's gone by now dobe, why do people feel that their right to cuddles outweighs our rights to privacy? Drives me mad angry

wm that sounds awful too! There's a time and a place to be the bigger people; a week post-birth is not that time!!

jelly in my eyes you're a hero for lsting this long, Callie wouldnt latch and so I expressed and syringe fed her for two days until we realised it wasn't working and the midwives wouldnt let us leave hospital until we cracked feeding. I was tired and sore and dreading every feed so we went onto formula. I wish I could've cracked bf, but I have no regrets now about changing. OH being able to help with feeds has been an absolute lifesaver. I have so much respect for people who breastfeed for any amount of time!

Second year finished. No idea how! I had my Wonder Woman pants on today, think I was harnessing her powers... all gone now though, I'm crashed out on the sofa with Callie in her basket next to me grin

Jellymum1 Fri 16-May-14 22:30:12

oooh dobe my bil hasnt spoke to me in a year its all rather complicated but I used to have his 4 girls stay over a lot and was very close to 3 of them (number 4 was very young and prob hasnt noticed I am missing). anyway I havent been "allowed" to see them but after my section last wed he told his mum to tell me that his new girlfriend would bring them to visit on the saturday (3 days post op) I was livid they all just assumed it would be ok! anyway they never came in the end hubby made up a nice excuse but I dont even know this flippin new gf why on earth would I want her in my house when bil has been a vile twat for a year and has been vile to dh too! I miss the girls so much but why anyone thought that would be appropriate is beyond me! I will be ever so emotional if I do get to see the girls again ive missed them so much I would never have coped with that emotion so soon after a birth

Mummycherry2 Sat 17-May-14 05:29:54

Hello lovely new mummies... Congratulations!

Moom, glad you've got things sorted and might actually be able to rest now... Well as much as you can with a newborn!

Jelly, sounds like you've had quite a rough time, I don't blame you for not wanting to see unwanted visitors . I put DH in charge of vetting who's been allowed in and for how long!

Mummytobe how's Olivia?

I'm having a hell of a time with Alfie. He wants to feed every two hours and I'm absolutely exhausted sad I have ME as well and it's really knocked me and I've been bed ridden for past three days. Don't know what I'm going to do when DH goes back to work on Tuesday sad he has been trying to arrange for different people to come every to help me. As well as that, I had a tear at birth which seems to have been healing ok but yesterday it became excruciating and I don't know what to do about it : (

Not good times at all in the cherry household !!

Jellymum1 Sat 17-May-14 08:18:49

oh cherry sorry you feel so sore. there is mention of salt baths on the facebook page to help with stitches. I had a section and have been putting a couple drops of tea tree in the bath water and it really helps. maybe that would work.

try not to focus and worry too much about dh going back to work. one day at a time is all we can do in these early days. it must be difficult having ME with a newborn! its tiring enough. thinking of you x

mummytobe88 Sat 17-May-14 09:03:58

Hello ladies!

moomin yay for managing to finish 2nd year!! Can't believe you managed to find the time to do all that work. You definitely must be superwoman! Lol

Sorry to everyone with their family issues! I agree about the visitors. Olivia is almost 3 weeks old now so think the novelty has slightly worn off but when she was first born, the thought of visitors made me want to burst into tears! I ended up agreeing to visit at their house so I could get up and leave whenever I wanted. Made me feel much better knowing I could leave when I was ready and not have to entertain everyone!

mummycherry Olivia is doing great smile although we still haven't cracked the sleeping. She goes one night in her cot and is great then the next night she grunts and gurns for hours so have to pick her up again. I'm just going with the flow she's only 2 weeks old, I'll be more concerned at 6/8 weeks if we still haven't mastered it lol sorry to hear you're having a rough time with Alfie! Having ME as we'll must be a nightmare. Just try rest up whenever you get the chance. I felt the same at the thought of my OH going back to work. This was his first week back and it wasn't as bad I as expected! Makes me appreciate him helping so much more when he comes home too.

samba I'm the same with putting Olivia down!! You don't want to disturb the peace and quiet when they're snoozing lol hope you're both well!

CbeebiesIsAboutToPop Sat 17-May-14 09:35:24

MummyCherry do you have other dc too?
I also have ME although before I got pregnant had improved so much. Now I have 3 I'm terrified of a relapse. My best piece of advice is to ignore the housework and washing piles, ignore everything you feel you 'should' be doing and concentrate on you and your baby. Make sure you get yourself fed properly and take some decent 'new mummy' vitamins. You'll be fine once dh goes back to work, take each day as it comes and showering/getting dressed is not as important as it seems xx

Mummycherry2 Sat 17-May-14 17:23:51

No cbeebies, this is my first baby. I found the pregnancy and even the labour ok which I was terrified about but the birth was awful and I'm really low now two weeks later.
The pain was so bad this morning I could barely stand so DH took me to emergency doctor. Stitches are all infected and have UTI as well, been crying all day. Can't believe this is happening to me and I'm in worse pain now than just after my surgery. Got a weeks worth of strong antibiotics to take which will no doubt make me feel even lower sad I'm so angry, I requested a C-Section because of ME and was told i would be fine. Then I got interfered with during labour leading to being torn at birth and now everything is infected, so I would have got over a C-Section quicker as I said I would have. Why does no one listen to me when I know My body best? MIL came this afternoon and patted my arm and told me it was all worth it. It took all the strength I had left not to tell her to fuck right off. It might be all worth it for her,she's not feeding every two hours and can't move sad

CbeebiesIsAboutToPop Sat 17-May-14 19:35:02

The 2 week mark is a difficult one hormonally anyway sad it's tough when the drs are telling you what's best for you, and think they know best angry

Make sure you look after yourself and watch out for signs of PND. In a few months time when you have regular smiles, when he says his first word and when he wants you for cuddles it will all be worth it, however right now it's tough. It's hard work and it's a long slog. But you can do it, and you will do an amazing job at being his mum regardless of illness xx

sambababy Sat 17-May-14 23:00:24

mummycherry so sorry to hear you're in so much pain. I can imagine your stitches getting infected making you feel very low indeed when all you want to do is make the most of these precious early weeks with your little Alfie. I hope the meds kick in quickly so you can start feeling like yourself again. Just remember that, however it happened, you have achieved something incredible thanks And we are here to vent!

anyone else find they hit a wall at 3am? it's C's favourite time for a feed, but its so hard to stay awake at 3am! hoping she settles quickly after being burped...

CbeebiesIsAboutToPop Sun 18-May-14 03:25:29

I was just thinking the same thing Moomin, my eyes are closing and I'm wishing he would just hurry up. Not helped by the fact he's not 'due a feed' till 4am (2 hours after his last) and he's feeding like I've starved him for 3 days hmm also hoping he settles quickly.

Mummycherry2 Sun 18-May-14 09:17:20

Me three moomin and cbeebies!!! I've been up every hour and a half feeding since 2am! I think the worst thing is when DH snores contentedly in bed throughout!
Feeling a bit better this morning thank you cbeebies and samba, sore but bareable. I've had a few salt baths and that with the antibiotics seems to be doing the trick. Thank you so much for your words of encouragement and support.
Btw cbeebies, I read your blog in the night and loved it! You are so brave having 3 with your ME, I think you must be Wonder Woman in disguise!!

MasterFlea Sun 18-May-14 19:14:05

Hello. I'm finally getting around to joining this thread after the birth of babyflea a week ago.
For my own laziness' sake, I'm just copy and pasting my birth story from the antenatal thread.
Saturday night I was feeling some period like pains so we decided to ring PIL to babysit DD1&2. They live 2.5 hours away. By about 2am, contractions started properly and PIL were just arriving. We got to hopsital after 3am and when examined I was "2 fingers" dilated. I bounced on the ball for a while then had to have a sleep. The contractions eased off while I slept but as soon as I stood up again, they were one min apart. started to want to push so called the MW. They took me to the delivery room and I was 9cm. Babyflea started crying as soon as his head was out at 6am. I'd forgotten how sore the crowning is. 3 stitches which hurt more than the birthing. I was very happy with how it all went.

The little man and I are getting on great. I finally got one of those sleeping babies. The girls used to wake every 45 mins for feeds for months and months. This little guy sleeps sometimes for 4 hours. I know it is only early days but I am celebrating the little things here, however long they last.

Surprisethird Sun 18-May-14 21:53:39

Hi, just thought I woud join this thread, had my little girl by planned c-section on Thursday, out Friday, only painkillers they gave me were ibuprofen 40mg to alteratewiy paracetamol so i ave been in agony. Baby good as gold through day , breast feedi, but won't ettke at night, just want I feed all night, all in all since Thursday I have had 4 hrs sleep altogether, I really struggle to sleep in day, so dreading tonight! My milk has come in, so big sore boobs! Looking forward to feeling like I know what I am doing, even though I have two already , but they are 14 & 9 so been a long time xx

Welcome and congratulations surprise smile

Ugh I need to book my 6 week check for any time after this Thursday, but I can't shake this new fear of needles, and I know I need an iron check. It feels like my body has suddenly realised oops, I had a baby five weeks ago, better start recovering, so now I'm completely knackered and just want to lie in bed all day! I'm trying to make some RL mummy friends as I have none other than on MN blush so I'm thinking of signing up to the Welsh-language baby group in town smile

PotatoPolly Sun 18-May-14 22:27:07

After waking every hour to hour and a half and taking a couple of ounces and then feeding normally today, my 6lb weeny baby has just had 3oz at 9pm and another 3oz at 10pm! What a little porker!

ohdearitshappeningtome Mon 19-May-14 02:42:00

Moomin I've booked noah in for swimming lessons we start
On June 2! So hopefully it's a way to find nee baby mummy friends too! Other than that I need to look at local sure start for baby massage and stuff!!

I have my post natal in June I'll be more around 8 weeks than 6!

Jellymum1 Mon 19-May-14 03:47:03

ohdear I really want to start swimming with baby we take dd1 regularly. I always thought they needed to have had all injections first? have I made that up? what age will noah be?

ohdearitshappeningtome Mon 19-May-14 07:29:41

Not they don't need
Injection! He will be 7 weeks when we go! Can't believe he's 5 weeks today!!!shockshock

MasterFlea Mon 19-May-14 10:31:36

I am wondering what everyone does about nappy changes during the night. They keep leaking on me. Even when I change them during the night. The nappy no1s are a tad too small and the 2s fit a bit better but are a tad big.

It is frustrating to change all the bedding in the middle of the night. Every night. As well as nappy and clothes.
They don't leak during the day though. I'm baffled.

I think I'm going to sign Callie up to our local Puddleducks swimming group ohdear, they accept babies from birth - their youngest member started at a week old! Hopefully there'll be a new baby massage course run by the Welsh language from birth association; they're completely free but their current course is full.

Can't advise sorry MasterFlea, we've had no issues with leaking. We change her at every feed during the night. What brand are you using? We've tried a few but now alternate between Tesco Size 1 and Pampers size 1s.

Turned up two days early for our health visitor clinic. Baby brain strikes again!

sambababy Mon 19-May-14 12:06:42

I was going to ask the same thing masterflea, but if they don't leak in the day I'm not sure the brand will make any difference. Very strange!

My dilemma with nappy changes is when to do them. Sofia literally screams blue murder if I go near her nappy. If I change before a feed she's hungry & grumpy & most likely saving a poo for during the feed. If I change her after, she has usually nodded off (thank god! Her feeds are lasting 1-1.5hrs) and will wake up & probably throw up too. DH even keeps making excuses for why we should leave her in a dirty nappy, that's how badly she screams!

I changed her before this feed & she's definitely working on something...

dobedobedo Mon 19-May-14 12:39:54

Welcome surprise!

Isn't it amazing how one tiny little baby can disrupt everything?! I feel like I live on another planet to the rest of the humans since he's been born. (one week old today!). I'm having some awful feeding issues. He's breastfed but my nipples are tortured. The pain is incredible. Think he has tongue tie but waiting for referral to come through. I've had midwives and peer support workers here watching me feed and have got some good latch advice and they say I'm doing everything right, and he put weight on at his 5 day check, but still in pain. Haven't fed from my left side since yesterday as it's so damaged, I'm trying to give it a chance to heal. I'm not enjoying feeding him at all, but he will not take expressed milk and he chokes when you try and give him a dummy. He's just a boob monster.

If I hadn't breastfed ds1 for almost 3 years, I would have given up by now. I thought bfing would be second nature after doing it successfully for so long, but nope. I'm just holding out hoping that it will get good soon, like it was with ds1.

Is anyone back to any semblance of normal life? All I do is feed. I need to know there is light at the end of the tunnel!

Just told OH that Callie isn't a toy to play pass the parcel with, and that as long as when we visit one set of parents, we visit the other (they live 20 minutes away from each other so it's easy), we shouldn't get into counting hours because it'll cause major issues down the line. I think we've got it now, and he seems pretty happy. We're spending one night at his and one night at mine, which at first he said was unfair but I explained the reasons - he's out all day Thursday and I am not sitting in his house all day waiting for him to get back, feeling awkward and not able to put Callie down anywhere - and he seems happier.

More Christening issues but I'm on the brink of saying fuck the Christening, I'm organising a naming ceremony-joint-birthday party for me (wink), we'll have Sparents rather than godparents, I'm going to drink wine while everyone else holds Callie and coos over her, and his family can go to church before, during and afterwards if that's what they want grin.

Moomin is growing some balls at last grin

Chip86 Mon 19-May-14 18:10:54

Well done moomin she is your baby you get the final say

dobe sorry feeding is bad for you at the moment hope they sort it out for you

sam change her after a feed when she asleep sounds like the best plan

baby chip only cries when she has a dirty nappy she hates being dirty or wet,
feeding is going well i will need to try new positions soon if i ever want to be able to leave the flat
at the moment i hold her head with one hand, boob with the other and she lies on a pillow and once latched boob hand is stuck under boob and me leaning over wich is not good for back

No one told me such a little person could create so much more washing seam to be doing two loads a day confused

Hope every one all ok

dobedobedo Mon 19-May-14 18:25:12

chip I hear ya there. I can only feed Jesse with the rugby ball hold and him lying on a pillow, which isn't ideal for public feeding. There's a thing I have to go to at DS1's school this week and I'm hoping to be able to feed in a sling by then. Don't think I have a chance of that personally!

ohdearitshappeningtome Mon 19-May-14 19:34:50

It's puddle
Ducks I going with xx

SarahJinx Mon 19-May-14 20:28:04

Hi ladies, just place marking as I've fallen off this. Will be back once I've caught up !

mrsmummytobe Mon 19-May-14 23:12:10

Hi ladies, just marking by spot on the thread �� newborn snuggles really are the best! Looking forward to reading through this thread properly & catching up with all your news.

Jellymum1 Tue 20-May-14 03:09:48

eye burning tired here. one unsettled jellybaby again (think its the heat?) and dh has man flu and is getting on my nerves all mopey and pathetic. its school hols for two weeks next week and dh will be back at work. no idea how im going to cope! anyway just passing the time while jellybaby sleeps in my arms as she isnt interested in the cot x

Lovely nosebleed to start the day! sad

Chip86 Tue 20-May-14 09:42:51

Well done moomin she is your baby you get the final say

dobe sorry feeding is bad for you at the moment hope they sort it out for you

sam change her after a feed when she asleep sounds like the best plan

baby chip only cries when she has a dirty nappy she hates being dirty or wet,
feeding is going well i will need to try new positions soon if i ever want to be able to leave the flat
at the moment i hold her head with one hand, boob with the other and she lies on a pillow and once latched boob hand is stuck under boob and me leaning over wich is not good for back

No one told me such a little person could create so much more washing seam to be doing two loads a day confused

Hope every one all ok

ClearlyMoo Tue 20-May-14 10:21:48

::sticks head round door::

Please can I come in?

I've got a BABY!

Baby B arrived 9lb7oz early hours Saturday! She's a delight!!

Very sore. Third degree tear so bits of me I didn't know existed are stitched and tight and swollen. Still suffering with back and pelvis issues and abs are shot! Day 4 so rock like boobs and a massively sleepless night last night. Totally in love with baby B though!

MasterFlea Tue 20-May-14 10:38:09

I hate stitches too.
My feet swelled up to elephant proportions yesterday. And i've a UTI. im guzzling cranberry juice in the hopes of making both disappear.

Nappy didn't leak last night! But he puked a bit so everything changed again. He's the most placid little baby ever. Rarely cries, only if he's left waiting for a feed or if his belly button needs cleaning. Cord fell off yest and it is a bit sore for him.

moomin have your headaches eased off at all?

Congrats Clearly!!! Hope the recovery goes well. Frozen maternity pads for the stitches!! Best advice I got off MN about the recovery.

MasterFlea Nope sad being referred to the neurology specialist now - I've been seeing a neurology doctor so far but she wants me to be seen by a specialist because they haven't gone away after pregnancy.

Chip86 Tue 20-May-14 14:33:38

Congrats Clearly hope you heal quick

Moomin sorry to hear you still having headachs glad there looking in to it though

masterflea glad it did not leak

how is everyone who had c-section getting on?
I did no reasurch on c-section and dont know what i should or should not be doing
can now get in an out of bed (day 6) managed a sneeze today wich could not do earlyer in the week coughing still hard getting easyer to laugh
only pottered around tesco not sure how far i should /should not walk
thanks for help ladies

Mummycherry2 Tue 20-May-14 14:46:04

Congratulations clearly !!! I had same sort of tear. Like moomin said witch hazel on Mat pads in freezer then put them in for 20 mins or so- not too long or they will dissolve the stitches too early. Also salt baths... Will kill initially but lower yourself in gradually ;) again only stay in for 10-15 mins and lots of pain killers! Get some voltarol if you can!

Master flea, I'm a veteran of the UTI, make sure you have probiotic yoghurt once a day and not too many baths.

Good for you Moom, about time you told them where to stick all their christening antics. Glad you got all your uni stuff done too, sorry to hear you're still getting the headaches though.

Having a tough time with Alfie, he wants feeding every hour and a half and I'm absolutely shattered. On the positive side I went out on my own this morning to take him for his hearing test. I managed the car seat and pushchair on my own and we both survived it! I was feeling very proud of myself I must say smile

How's everyone doing?

Chip86 Tue 20-May-14 15:35:56

Well done cherry you doing really well, we have lots of outings coming up and im dreading it need to go register her birth and at GP but DH will be with me just walking there im sure be fine though

wm3010 Tue 20-May-14 19:22:42

Hi ladies, nice to see so many new arrivals. All ok here apart from Marnie doesn't like to sleep for about 4 hours from midnight. Frustrating when she is pretty good the rest of the time. I know she's only 11 days old and to be expected but my mum phones every day to see how sleep is going and makes me stress. She is only worried about us but I wish she would take the attitude the health visitor had today, i.e. Don't worry she is only little and it will get better. Bit teary again today, think just tiredness.

SarahJinx Tue 20-May-14 20:06:26

Well we're two weeks in tomorrow, and up and down like yoyos. Sleep at night is ok, feeding in the day is either a marathon - from 6.30am constantly until 4pm...with the odd half an hour break in between - or quick 20 minute sprints with three hourly sleep cycles. Like you wm its early days,but,man alive its hard, particularly with a demanding three year old.

having said that, she did five and three hour stretches through the night so i really cant complain. Days are just soooo tough. I'm attempting to meet a friend tomorrow for coff and cake, hope its a bf friendly place! It'll be my first solo trip too cherry how daunting!!

congratulations clearly hope that tear heals nicely, so bloody painful.

well done moomin on finishing your year, an amazing achievement really, and on putting that foot down so firmly !

ohdearitshappeningtome Tue 20-May-14 20:23:15

Anyone heard from mrs foo?

wm3010 Tue 20-May-14 20:31:05

Hats off to those of you with more than one child, no idea how you do it!

Mummycherry2 Tue 20-May-14 22:38:02

Thank you chip smile we just went to get hearing test done and pop into the local shop but I was terrified last night about going out on my own!

Ooh you're brave Sarah...let us know how you get on! Coffee and cake is on the agenda for us tomorrow too but I wasn't brave enough for town so my friend is coming to me instead. She is due with her first baby in July and I'm conscious about not scaring her too much but at the same time being honest. I just wanted people to get straight to the point with me before but I understand that others prefer not to know the gory details!

I was thinking exactly the same thing earlier wm. You mummies with more than one baby are amazing!!

Jellymum1 Tue 20-May-14 22:59:14

hmm still no news from foo? I hope everything is ok.

MasterFlea Wed 21-May-14 07:43:07

I've only the one baby today! DH has taken the two older dcs off to their grandparents for the day. I have dvds, chocolate and naps for the day planned. Bliss!

Thanks for the tips on uti MummyCherry. Must get some yogurts.

Wm I used to get stressed about the sleep questions too. My well meaning DM was obsessed. I started lying; "Oh yes, she's a great sleeper" for the DD who fed every 45 minutes during the night and day for what felt like a year. Got DM (and others) off my back.

Vikks Wed 21-May-14 08:26:48

Hello! Can I check in please?

Olivia Rose came firing out into the world on Saturday night after a hospital induction. She perfect! x

dobedobedo Wed 21-May-14 08:29:17

Foo posted on Twitter that there may be radio silence so they could inform their families about the baby's arrival so I'm sure that's why she's quiet. I can't wait to hear her news though!

I've been a bit of a hermit since having Jesse. Only ventured out to tesco once and even then, I almost fainted. But I have various school things, voting and a 1 year old birthday party to go to every day until Sunday. How will I cope?! Also god knows how I'll bf in public at this stage if Jesse needs a feed. Stress! confused

Callie is 9lb exactly yaaaaay grin I'm sooo happy smile

Hope MrsFoo is ok but that's reassuring to know that she warned about radio silence.

Does anyone else get asked "Is she/he well behaved for you?". I know they mean does she cry, does she sleep well etc but I always feel like saying no, she got arrested for vandalism the other day and is already spending most of her time on the naughty step at six weeks old hmm

Jellymum1 Wed 21-May-14 16:18:03

haha moomin yes I get asked is she good all the time! jellybaby has finally put weight on smile a whole lb! I am so pleased as she lost and then stayed the same massive relief now. also her jaundice had all cleared up so no more heal prick tests either. so happy!

PotatoPolly Wed 21-May-14 21:52:47

We just learnt the importance of making sure ds1's winkie is pointing down in the nappy... The hard way blush

Sweflo Wed 21-May-14 22:50:47

Hi I have been following this thread for a while. Due date was 20/5. Had a sweep today. Don't feel like anything will happen. On Friday I will be induced. Fingers crossed it will start before that.

This is my 3 child have 2 from before boy 7 and girl 8.

Can't wait to have her out. So hopefully will be joining you guys soon . X

loopylou52 Wed 21-May-14 23:20:52

Hi ladies, time for me to join you on the other side! I don't think I ever told my birth story on the main thread so here it is in brief. ..

Waters broke shortly after midnight last Wednesday night. Went in to be checked and they tried to do a sweep but my cervix was too far back. Spent most of Thursday having occasional mild contractions but labour never got going so went in to be induced on Friday morning. Straight onto the drip so contracting strongly and frequently. Coped pretty well using TENS and sitting on ball etc for first four hours. Then examined and found to be less than a centimetre dilated! All went a bit downhill from there, with concerns over baby's heartrate and my blood pressure. Had epidural but it never fully took. I eventually made it to 4cm but baby was distressed and it was clear I wouldn't deliver any time soon so we had to proceed to emcs. Feel upset that my body let us down but the op went well and was less scary than I imagined. Can't fault the staff at all - they were fantastic.

He didn't feed well the first day and was very sicky and a bit jaundiced. In the end we had to move to two-hourly feeds of formula while trying to express colostrum in between. If we hadn't moved to formula they were threatening he'd have to go to scbu to have a tube. He's doing loads better now though and is managing to feed ok. Got weighed by mw today and she was happy he'd only lost 5% of his weight. I'm so proud of him!

Phew, sorry for long post. Feels good to blurt it all out!

Jellymum1 Thu 22-May-14 00:20:46

hugs loopy. emcs is always hard. no one ever really warns you to have a plan b or a section birth plan do they. I had an emcs with dd1. I had got to 9 cm after a really really slow progress and we ended up in crash section after her heart stopped sad she is 4 and a half now and it still really upsets me. be kind to yourself try not to blame yourself or your body. many many women who ho on the drip end up having a section because they dont progress quick enough yet the contractions are so strong and painful mum and baby get very tired very quickly. I recommend a birth reflections meeting with your consultant or midwife as soon as you are up to it. they go through your notes and explain in detail what went on. it can be very healing to so this but unfortunately they dont promote it but absolutely everyone is entitled to do it. take it easy.

Jellymum1 Thu 22-May-14 00:21:52

*to do this

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 22-May-14 08:52:22

Hi and welcome and good luck swelfo thanks

OH now sprung on me that his parents aren't happy because they're working tomorrow so they won't get to see Callie with the current plans, so apparently I have to go and spend this evening sat in the living room on my own with his mum so she can see Callie.

I'll let him break the news to my family that our plans tonight aren't happening... that should make him reconsider grin

CurlsLDN Thu 22-May-14 09:23:08

Hello again everyone! Ds is 2 weeks old now, it's been a blur of learning about eachother and too many bloody visitors!

Things are mostly going ok, but these last few days I've been vv anxious about breastfeeding. I've been struggling with night feeds, but have now begun pumping so dh can do one feed a night so that I can get a 5-6 hour stretch of sleep, which really helps!

I've also been struggling with feeding in public, so I posted a thread about it and got lots of great advice, have a look here www.mumsnet.com/Talk/breast_and_bottle_feeding/2084293-how-do-you-feed-in-public

CbeebiesIsAboutToPop Thu 22-May-14 09:34:47

Curls I use a scarf, it goes behind my back (over my shoulder) and cradles him so I can see over the top. I also have big boobs and a fussy baby!!

loopylou52 Thu 22-May-14 11:05:58

Thanks jelly, I'll definitely consider the birth reflections discussion.

Ooh that thread on public breastfeeding sounds useful - I managed it at the children's centre yesterday (where we have mw appointments) but the lovely lady let me go and use an emtpy room for it.

sambababy Thu 22-May-14 11:40:01

loopy sounds like a tough labour & birth. As jelly said, make sure you talk it over with someone so that you can understand that it certainly wasn't your body's fault. Its like a lottery what kind of birth people have, it's so varied and who knows why!

Hope everyone's recoveries are going well.

I'm currently dropping toast crumbs on Sofia but hey, we both need to eat grin

My parents are flying out tomorrow for 2 wks I am beyond excited!!!

SarahJinx Thu 22-May-14 21:52:11

loopy just to second what Jelly says about going over your labour with mw or consultant. I did it for my first labour, just before this one and found it fascinating, therapeutic and very very healing. It really helped me to 'know' why it went like it did.

When you're ready, defo consider it.

I hope you're ok x

Mummycherry2 Fri 23-May-14 15:14:39

Good luck sweflo and congratulations loopy!

I achieved a milestone today...first day completely home alone and we survived! Not only that but I managed to do two loads of washing, cleaned the bathroom and had a shower! Tired out now so time for a nap with baby cherry!

How's everyone else doing? What are your milestones?

ohdearitshappeningtome Fri 23-May-14 15:27:54

My milestone for today was having a bath and climbed straight back into bed!!

I do think mini me Is starting
To find his voice a bit he seems to not cry but make a noise

ohdearitshappeningtome Fri 23-May-14 15:28:20

Posted too soon.....

Well done for today cherry xthanks

CbeebiesIsAboutToPop Fri 23-May-14 16:12:46

my milestone is getting myself showered and dressed and getting all 3 children dressed! I also have a relatively tidy living room and I started on the kitchen earlier before baby wanted feeding.

my next goal is to make dinner and not burst into tears when DH walks through the door a la last Friday blush (I ordered take out and burst into tears when he walked through the door, he has been so worried about me he's been working from home and only going out for meetings. Today is the first day he has gone back and done a full day since blush)

Well done MummyCherry and ohdear

Mummycherry2 Fri 23-May-14 17:00:45

Well done ohdear and you too cbeebies!

No wonder your teary with 3 children cbeebies especially with ME as well, I think that certainly merits a few takeaways without feeling guilty (I'd say it merits a few glasses of wine too..purely medicinal of course!)

Well done everyone with your milestones smile

I've been having period cramps now for days, as well as raging PMT, but no sign of my period, and I thought I had a little longer until the PMT and pains would come back. Add that to the headache and I'm going crazy! Plus we've had a bill through for council tax, which we aren't meant to pay, so we have to call the council and remind them that we have told them we're students. The flat is a complete state but Celyn seems happy and healthy so that's my milestone for today grin

MasterFlea Fri 23-May-14 18:42:56

Well done Ceebeeies! I'm dreading my DH going back to work ft. He left me with the 3 on Monday for a few hours and my goal was to have us all alive when he got back. That'll be the aim for next Tuesday when he goes in for a meeting.

My house is a mess too. I got the sheets changed on all the beds so that was my milestone.
I haven't ventured out to town with just me and the dcs yet. I'm a big scaredy cat.

I realised today that the piles have gone! And my stitches don't hurt either. But PGP, sciatica and swollen hands/feet/face are all still here.
How is recovery going for everyone else? I'm 12 days postpartum.

sambababy Fri 23-May-14 21:00:13

My milestone is watching the latest series of Mad Men while breastfeeding grin. Actually I don't feel like I've achieved anything very much besides having a shower. I'm lucky we've had help with cleaning & cooking, I just don't know how you ladies with more DC do it!!

Recovery wise I'm feeling pretty good but the piles situation hasn't improved. I am also exceptionally hairy as Sofia decided to arrive the day before my waxing appointment blush

MasterFlea Sat 24-May-14 08:06:43

Samba did your parents come all the way from UK?
Mine aren't bothered at all. I invited them for the namegiving in the summer and DM declined without hesitation. 3rd one they will miss. They will never visit me here.
Anyway, I am rather envious and hope you have a great time with yours.

My milestone aim for today is to have a shower and perhaps do some exercises. Must check to see if my adominals did seperate first.

I've just disocvered the best cure for anything. Walking in to the living room with a massive headache and stomach pains, Callie looked up at me and smiled when I waved at her and said hello, and again when I picked her up smile instantly feeling better grin

Hope everyone else is doing well today smile

Mummycherry2 Sat 24-May-14 18:19:38

How lovely Moomin!! That sounds amazing! M
Having another decent day here, managed to Hoover one room and make lunch. Tomorrow is a big day... Family BBQ which is half an hour away. I'm nervous but determined as it's my grandmas birthday-91 and she hasn't met Alfie yet! She lives in a home so I need to take him while she's at my aunties house as I'm a bit worried about taking him up the home while he is so little.
Had some friends round this afternoon- they were weirdly curious about my breastfeeding! I have to admit I did find it a little strange. Anyone else experience unusual interest in breastfeeding before?!

dobedobedo Sat 24-May-14 19:25:07

mummycherry my boss came round and it was as if she'd never heard of breastfeeding before. She was asking how did I know how much milk he got, what do I do if he gets hungry and we are out, does it hurt, etc etc. Sometimes I forgot that a lot of people have zero experience of it!

Things have been getting easier with Jesse's tongue tie. It's still very painful on initial latch, and his latch keeps slipping off during the feed, but he can latch himself on again properly about half the time now. At least he's notdrawing blood anymore! I do worry he's getting too much air, we've had a couple of puking incidents. And i also wonder if he'd feed quicker if we got it fixed. (3 hours constant feeding twice today!) hopefully the referral to the specialist will come through soon.

How's everyone else finding things?

SarahJinx Sat 24-May-14 20:19:51

Hi all

Stupidly tired tonight, I can feel my head nodding as I'm typing, keep stuffing myself full of biscuits as if I think that might help...? Bit of a tough, crappy day. A has fed for most of the day with the odd half an hour/hour naps, it's been hard going particularly as I'm trying to give DS as much time as possible so when she's gone down, I've played with him. I feel like I haven't stopped all day.

dobedo we don't have tongue tie here. But have had similar problems, clicking, slipping off the nipple and excruciating pain for the first week, my nipples are still sore but getting easier, except for when it's cold...!

Moomin, how lovely x

MasterFlea Sun 25-May-14 06:45:32

Moomin, thst's lovely that she is smiling already.

Dobe, good to hear things are turning in the right direction for feeding. We don't have any tie issues but the initial latch on is toe curling. Baby does the cluster feeds a couple of times in the day. But he has a lot of growing to do yet. And he spits up a bit afterwards but not the whole feed.
He's 2 weeks today and I'm hoping the nipple pain eases soon. We have a checkup tomorrow with the nurse.

DH has had a man flu all week and no sign of it clearing.

sambababy Sun 25-May-14 10:35:00

masterflea yes my parents have come over from the uk. It's lovely to have them here but I'm already worried how down I will be when they leave again. I'm sorry your parents haven't made the effort sad Do you visit the uk fairly often?

dobe when we were discharged the paediatrician said something about tongue tie and that they would only treat it in a year! confused I think we're doing ok with feeding but have the same issues as you & Sarah.

moomin I'm jealous I want smiles!

sambababy Sun 25-May-14 11:01:45

We've had so many gifts from friends/family back home but thought I'd share my favourite one. It's a book called On the night you were born, & it's just beautiful, makes me cry. Going to buy it for all the new mummies I know. What's the nicest thing you've received for your LOs?

Mummycherry2 Sun 25-May-14 13:10:52

Dobe, that really made me chuckle...the thought of my boss staring on intrigued hahaha! What did you say?!
Masterflea, know the feeling with 'poorly' DHs, they don't have a clue do they?!

Samba, thank you for sharing that, my best friend is due at the end of July so I'm going to get a copy of that to put in her box of goodies. My best gift was from my tutor group at school ( I'm a secondary school teacher) they made me a hamper of all my favourite things and things I had been craving throughout pregnancy. They also made me a teddy and the bear factory and made a customised outfit for him. Was overwhelmed by their thoughtfulness!

Just checking in on this thread. Will catch up on what I've missed now.

mummytobe88 Sun 25-May-14 15:17:47

Hello ladies, not managed to catch up for a while.

Just on samba's note, there is also a book called "love you forever" which is beautiful.

I'll now go back and catch up smile

mummytobe88 Sun 25-May-14 15:18:30

If anyone is a Friends fanatic like me, you'll remember the book I've just mentioned smile!

Bezzabelle Sun 25-May-14 20:18:18

Hi all, been reading this thread since I gave birth ten days ago (usually during night feeds) but haven't posted yet.

All going well here, had issues with latch to start with too but he had his tongue tie snipped at day 4 and that instantly sorted the problem as he could then open his mouth wider rather than just suck on the end of my nipple- ouch! They have now healed up a treat and feeding going well- in fact he has gone from 6lb 12 at birth to 7lb 5 at ten days old so me feeling like a milk machine has been worth it!

Ds has coped pretty well with the arrival of his baby brother- finding it quite tricky though as he wants to cuddle him all the time so I can't leave them in same room together so have to make sure I have a shower before dh leaves for work although he is taking his paternity leave from tomor so that will make it easier. Ds is also waking at 5am so dh is getting up with him whilst I stay in bed for another couple
Hours having snuggles with baby. Sleep deprivation somehow feels easier 2nd time round as think more prepared for it!!

Hope everyone is ok and managing to get some naps in.

MasterFlea Mon 26-May-14 15:38:42

BabyFlea's 2 week checkup went well today. He was 100g over his birth weight. And 3cm taller. Back again in 2 weeks for a doctor check. (They do lots of checks here in Finland.)

Samba I don't go back often either. The lack of interest in the grandchildren doesn't change if I'm in the country or not so I stopped bothering. Luckily, PIL make up for it in spades so the dcs still get one set of gps to have a relationship with.

I'll check out that book.

dobedobedo Mon 26-May-14 18:03:12

A friend of mine bought me a book called Go the fuck tosleep. It depends veryy much on the type of humour of your friend whether she will appreciate it though!

randdom Mon 26-May-14 19:13:55

Hello ladies... invading slightly from the antenatal thread!

I was just wondering if I could get some advice. One of my best friends is getting married at the end of June. She is getting married in the city that we live within a taxi/car ride. Little randdom will at this point be anything from 2-4 weeks depending on when they decide to make an arrival. I was just hoping to mentally prepare myself for how hard this is going to be. Our intention is to go to the service and the meal and then leave after the speeches/cake cutting. I really want to go but just want to be realistic..

Bezzabelle Mon 26-May-14 19:30:51

Randdom- I went to wedding when ds was very small and he just slept most of the time and when he was awake, he was happy being cuddled by others. In comparison much easier than a wedding we went to last summer when he was two and that was much harder as wouldn't sit still during ceremony/ meal/speeches etc!! So ime, going with a newborn baby was much better!! You may just feel tired and sore depending on your birth etc so just bear that in mind.

Chip86 Mon 26-May-14 20:24:34

Randdom my only tip would be if your breastfeeding practice feeding as if you were out in public so no pilow to lean on and a blanket over you or put baby in a sling

and agree with bezzabelle you will be tired and maybe in pain so take pain killers

also you might not want everyone hugging baby if only 2 weeks old, so having baby in sling or car seat pushchair would put them off and they will just look,

I am sure you will have a lovely time x

Newfound appreciation for pregnancy; I miss not having periods sad

dobe have you seen the video of Morgan Freeman reading "Go The Fuck To Sleep"? it's hilarious!

Callie's jabs are in a week and a half. I'm really not sure about Rotarix sad but I don't want her to be poorly with Rotavirus either!!

MrsFooCough Tue 27-May-14 02:52:59

Hey all I'm afraid this is my very belated first postnatal post! What a bad MNer I am blush
Haha and as it's ridiculous o'clock I can't really read back thru the last 5 pages or so! I mean I could, but GracieBean is finally sleeping so I shall make the most of the peace!

Poor DH had no clue about night feeds/cuddles/burps. He knew they were necessary but had no clue how your heart keeps you powering thru but your body just tried to give up a few times! Haha. Rude awakening for him!

MrsFooCough Tue 27-May-14 02:55:12

Oh and moom I am so hoping that I can go on the combined pill ASAP, I am THROUGH with periods myself. This lochia business can sod right off

MrsFooCough Tue 27-May-14 03:12:06

Also this little one is going thru the only-sleeping-on-someone's-chest phase, so I'll be up for a few hrs giving DH a break. First night that a) he's had as my only backup (DMum is at DGrandma's overnight) and b) we're using powdered milk for Grace's bottles. Up til now we've used the pre-made bottles which are HEAVEN, but we didn't anticipate that they'd run out today until after the shops shut (we all have baby brain at the moment) so we started on the C&G powder we had in reserve. She's tolerating it well which is nice, but it's a bit of a faff eh?! So tomorrow we are off to buy a ruddy pram FINALLY (do not get me started) and some more ready made bottled stuff! Ooh and a Nappisan/Sangenic whatever they're called to dispose of G's stinkers before the dog gets interested confused

ohdearitshappeningtome Tue 27-May-14 21:25:43

Oh this dropped off my actives !!

SarahJinx Wed 28-May-14 07:07:17

And mine, place marking x

wm3010 Wed 28-May-14 18:46:17

Hi all, just checking in - isn't it amazing how much quieter we are on this thread than we were on the ante natal ones?! Hope you are all doing ok, things are fine here but would be nice if we managed to space feeds out a bit more...

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 28-May-14 19:43:34

I must admit I'm much more active in fb

CbeebiesIsAboutToPop Wed 28-May-14 22:08:58

Wm that's because before thoes of us with dc had set routines and time to mn, those without dc had...well time! <remembers pre dc days fondly!> now we all have demanding newborns and some have toddlers to fit in too! All routines are ou of the window and this thread becomes bottom of our priority list!
Facebook on the other hand has become most peoples way of life, it's easy to pick up and see how people are soon in just a couple of seconds and comment on things quickly (as opposed to this where you feel rude for not acknowledging everybody so even tho you want to post and help, you avoid it till you have more time)

CbeebiesIsAboutToPop Wed 28-May-14 22:10:08

More time never comes and the thread gets left. It's quite sad really sad

MrsFooCough Wed 28-May-14 22:43:01

Should we make a postnatal group on FB? Or should we just hang about until everyone's popped and then resume chatting? Hehe grin

Mummycherry2 Wed 28-May-14 23:14:48

How's everyone doing? I can't bloody believe it but three and a half weeks after birth my period has returned!! I'm not amused!!

Nothing much exciting happening in the cherry household, think we've sorted the nights now though...down to two feeds, 3.5 hours apart, 4 if I'm lucky so I will take that!!

Just checking in.

CbeebiesIsAboutToPop Thu 29-May-14 08:51:09

Mummy cherry, that'll still be locia, it comes and goes for 6 weeks sometimes it will completely stop for days then start again suddenly. It's impossible to ovulate till at least 3 weeks after birth so it really won't be your period.

Mummycherry2 Thu 29-May-14 09:20:31

Thank you cbeebies! I did think it had come very soon, normal to be accompanied with period pains? Everything is stinging a lot again and I suspect I have another infection sad going to phone gp again this morning. I'm not a happy cherry today!

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 29-May-14 10:20:20

I bled for 4 weeks I'm dreading the return of periods and spots and mood swings!

I suspect so is dh wink

MasterFlea Thu 29-May-14 15:12:35

My lochia is stopping and starting too. Some cramps too. My guess was that uterus is still shrinking cauong the cramps. Piles returned too with a vengance.

I don't use FB at all. I'll still be posting here when I get a chance.
I've started researching what kind of contraception to use. I'm finished having babies now. Has anyone had the copper coil?

SicknSpan Thu 29-May-14 16:21:16

Masterflea I had the copper coil successfully after ds1 -was still bfing so couldn't have Mirena because of hormones. I would say though that for me it was incredibly painful being fitted- like labour (no exaggeration) for the following 8 hours. But v efficient and no need to worry about anything (apart from slightly heavier, but still regular and much less painful periods than pre-pregnancy.)

Had one fitted again after ds2 and again, v painful but no trouble after- until I found out v v v unexpectedly that I was pregnant with this wee beastie! Think this is a very uncommon but not unheard of failure. Not wanting to scare you!

Mummycherry2 Thu 29-May-14 16:24:55

Have been sat sobbing for the afternoon. Infection in would all way down confirmed- third one since giving birth less than a month ago. Dr took swob and I fainted from the pain of it. Why am I not getting better???

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 29-May-14 21:07:14

Awww cherry! Won't they admit
You for strong antibiotics?

Chip86 Fri 30-May-14 06:48:07

Oh cherry that is awful you poor thing hope they get it sorted soon for you.

moas Fri 30-May-14 13:18:12

Checking in...
Anyone using a dummy yet? I've been advised to wait til he's a month old but started using one a couple of days ago. This boy just wants to feed all the time and it's led to him getting too much watery milk and not enough of the creamy stuff. I read this article, sounds just like him. https://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/lactose-overload-babies
So now I'm leaving 2 hours between feeds and it's dummy in the meantime.

MasterFlea Fri 30-May-14 15:51:58

mummyCherry, that is awful. Hope they can help you somehow.

Thanks Spic. I had a good read of how they insert it after reading your post and decided it is too early too let anyone root around in my fanjo. So I'll wait until my periods come back before getting it in. Hopefully bfeeding will keep the periods away until next year. Condoms till then.

Ventured out to the library with the 2 dds and baby today. First time out in public with dcs and no DH. Went well, no tears from anyone nor did we get kicked out of the library so I'm delighted.

MasterFlea Fri 30-May-14 16:01:33

moas just read the article. When mine keeps looking for the breast, especially at cluster times, I often put him back on the same breast. This helps him get the fattier hind milk and stops his poos from becoming green. I've become a expert at squeezing my breasts and gauging when to changeover. But I've been breastfeeding for 4 years now with only 4 or 5 months off for pregnacies.

Not going to use a dummy here. But I don't mind him using my boob as a dummy either. Personal preference.

moas Fri 30-May-14 18:19:16

Thanks Master! You do seem a true master both at breast feeding and juggling 3 kids! I'm well impressed, I took baby + DS to the library today too and it was fine but we had DH with us!

Hezbean Fri 30-May-14 20:12:41

Really interesting article moas. Seems like I might have the same issue - feeding frequently, gassy, loads of wet and explosive nappies, cluster feeding like mad in the evenings. Any tips on how to know when it's hind milk would be massively appreciated! Usually I switch boobs after the first one goes a bit soft and she's having more trouble latching on - the nipple is softer and she starts chewing on it a bit. Normally about 20 mins per side. I'll kind of squeeze the boob with my hand to make it easier for her.

So impressed at you juggling three babies! We made it out to show her off at my office today and it felt like a real achievement!

wm3010 Fri 30-May-14 20:46:54

I was advised to only feed from one boob for about an hour at a time too, we are having wind problems also, although not explosive nappies, there is a bit of a lack of pooey nappies unfortunately and I think that doesn't help with wind. Anyway, feeding frenzy the last couple of afternoons lasting about an hour. By the end of that, dd is basically just messing about with the nipple, won't latch properly and keeps biting the nipple between her gums and turning her head away but if I take her off completely she screams and roots. Does that mean the boob is too empty for her? Not sure what to do, it hurts and am feeling a bit down about the bf thing anyway as feel like she has more of a relationship with dh as he can cuddle her etc without her looking for milk the whole time. sad

Chip86 Fri 30-May-14 22:59:25

I have found expressing for 5min on one side then giving that side to baby has made a huge diffrence less wind and figeting as i have lots of fore milk and its very fast
also keep her on that one side the whole feed and express the other side then next feed use the side i expressed to stop getting hard and that keeps milk supply up
lots of work
hope it gets easyer for everyone and im very impressed by thouse who managed to get out with little ones

nugget05 Sat 31-May-14 09:08:50

Hey guys thought I'd drop in, I'm new to the postnatal side of maybies so tell me to shush if I pick your brains too much. Baby nugget was born on 27th weighing 7lbs10 smile he still has no name and I have no ideas hmm Reading all the breastfeeding posts hoping to get some help for my poor boobs, he's a hungry baby and is almost constantly feeding any advice would be very welcome grin and congratulations to everyone on the birth of their maybies x

sambababy Sat 31-May-14 10:10:35

I think Sofia is trying to give me nipple extensions. The tugging!! Aaaggghhh

cherry sorry you're still suffering with infection. Did they give you the same antibiotics this time round? I'm wondering if it hadn't cleared up 100% the previous times. Have they given you advice on how to care for the stitches, like rinse & dry the area every time you use the toilet plus change the pad? Really hope it clears up for you soon flowers

Not long now til all the maybies graduate over to here! It seems to have gone really fast! The overdue ladies may disagree.

sambababy Sat 31-May-14 10:13:29

Didn't refresh the page. Congratulations nugget! Only advice I have on bf is use lansinoh religiously. Has your milk come in yet? Things might get better when it does.

CokeFan Sat 31-May-14 10:51:18

Baby CokeFan arrived on 28th May (only 15 days late!) weighing 9lb 11oz by EMCS after induction, drip, epidural etc. all got a bit much and he got distressed.

We're back at home now and he's feeding well. Only lost 6.1% body weight and he seems quite chilled despite his dramatic appearance.

wm3010 Sat 31-May-14 13:20:23

Congrats to newbies! chip I thought about expressing but advice seems to be it could make oversupply worse as you are stimulating milk production even more?!

nugget 3 weeks in here and dd still wants to feed about every 2 hours on average, sometimes more and sometimes less. Her weight is up by nearly a pound though which does help it seem worth it!

ohdearitshappeningtome Sat 31-May-14 13:28:09

Mini me is almost 7 weeks old a weighs 10lb8

Surprisethird Sat 31-May-14 17:10:09

Hi, just checking in, Gracie is now 16 days old, average feeding gap is 1hr 45 mins, at night sometimes she goes 3 hrs which is bliss, doesn't seem like I get a minute to myself though to do the things I need to do, have 2 other children's but there older so forgot how little time you get lol, god know how I am going to juggle work, I am self employed so work from home, but at mo either feeding, winding settling, changing nappy, and that's all I seem to have time for, have ing a rare 5mins at most, hence my catch up on here!
Does anyone know when the breastfeeding gets less intense as it's been 9 yrs since last time

nugget05 Sat 31-May-14 19:09:22

Thanks guys, yeah samba it started coming in yesterday. I hope it helps right boob is fine but when he feeds on the left every suck hurts and it started to bruise sad it's worth the pain when I see his milk drunk face lol smile

moobaloo Sun 01-Jun-14 20:37:00

Hello! I've graduated!!

Baby Freddy was born on Thursday after a 3 day induction and 16 hour labour with an epidural, forceps, episiotomy, tear, shoulder dystopia, emergency alarms, blood loss, fainting etc. Followed by antibiotics, fluid drip, a blood transfusion, many needles and so on. Luckily all were for me and not Freddy! He's absolutely perfect smile

Despite concerns he may have been too small earlier in the pregnancy he weighed in at 10lb 3oz!!!

We are now home following another couple of nights in hospital to monitor my blood. So lovely to be out of there for the first time in nearly a week! Unfortunately Freddy chose out first night at home to cluster feed until 4 am! However my milk has now come in, my boobs are rock hard and so painful! He's not latching brilliantly either, I think his mouth us too little! Midwife came today and as he's lost ten percent of his birth weight we're hand expressing to top him up, which is nice for my boobs but there's so much milk in them I am going to go out and buy a pump first thing in the morning as I feel I could get so much more from them. I got 5ml from one in about 15 minutes, is that about right? The other is a bit more reluctant so I'm going to pump it as I'm hoping it'll be more effective than hand expressing? So so sore!

Anyway. Huge congrats everyone, think we might all have our babies now? Roll on post natal!

Spirael Sun 01-Jun-14 21:33:17

I am now in postnatal legitimately. smile Think there are still a few in antenatal though, so will keep track of both until everyone graduates!

My labour/delivery was no-where near as exciting as moobaloo's epic! For the benefit of those not on FB, I was lucky enough to have an uneventful home water birth with nothing but a bit of G&A for the last 10 minutes. Everything started at around 4am on Friday and I was all done by 10am! DD2 weighed in at 8lbs 15oz.

I got some more 2nd degree tearing, but the MW put me back together. She seems to have done an awesome job, as I barely hurt at all. smile In fact I seem to be suffering from Post Natal Elation - I'm so happy to not be pregnant anymore! I'm going to hormone crash soon, probably. wink

DD2 is lovely and has been feeding like a pro. A few 6 hour cluster feeds so far, but she latches well so I'm not too sore. My milk is being slow to arrive, same as last time. Guess that's just the way I work! Given a couple of small formula supplements between copious BFing to tide us by until my supply kicks in, as DD2 is ready for bigger meals.

Hope all is going well with you all! I'll try and catch up properly over the coming days.

This wasn't on my Active threads anymore shock

hobbjobb Mon 02-Jun-14 03:49:57

Hi everyone only just getting round to joining the post natal thread!

Isla is feeding every hour and a half or so, day and night and it's getting to me. We had her tongue tie cut but not seeing much improvement. She will feed for ages then show all the hunger signs straight after and scream until she is back on the breast. I'm so exhausted!

3sthenew2 Mon 02-Jun-14 04:50:55

Just found this thread so catching up on how everyone's doing. We're on day 5 now and after demanding oh gets the snip ASAP I'm starting to miss my bump! I forgot how amazing newborns are and the thought of never going through this again makes me sad. It's been less than a week since I was moaning about being so huge & uncomfortable am I mad! Anyway, baby Ronnie is doing really well, we even managed 4 hours sleep swaddled next to me (we're getting closer to the crib) after days of only sleeping on my chest I figured we'd take baby steps to complete separation besides I prefer knowing he's so close. He even settled off on his own swaddled on the bed with ewan the dream sheep playing womb noises yesterday afternoon so I'm feeling optimistic. grin

ohdearitshappeningtome Mon 02-Jun-14 23:06:38

How are we all?

Bezzabelle Tue 03-Jun-14 06:13:41

It's gone a bit quiet on here- hope all ok.
Ds2 is now 19 days old. Feeding at night has gone from what felt like constant to every three hours for the last two nights so am getting a bit more sleep in between feeds. Trying to nap in day too where I can when ds1 is at nursery. Also find that feeding from the same boob two feeds in a row has helped reduce the wind issues so thanks to whoever it was that posted that article a few days ago!

moobaloo Tue 03-Jun-14 11:41:27

My friend bought me Freddos for Freddy! Well, actually for me smile couldn't resist a pic - he's five days old today. The bruising from the forceps is going down and I have a cranial osteopath coming today to check his skull and alignment is ok after all the pulling of the forceps and shoulder dystopia.

Hope everyone is ok!

moas Tue 03-Jun-14 13:40:43

bezza glad the article helped you! I thought we had it sorted too but DS2 was very upset and cried for two intense hours last night... Still think it's helped a bit though!

moo Freddy's so sweet! Sounds brilliant to have osteopath check him over, we had one seeing Ds1 regularly after his surgery, helped a lot!

Bezzabelle Tue 03-Jun-14 13:49:39

Moo- freddy is yummy- his hair is gorgeous! My dh always says all babies look the same but I totally disagree!

Moas- with ds1, I tried a few seasons of the Bowen technique with a qualified practitioner due to his traumatic birth, he was really unsettled- I think this really helped.

Surprisethird Tue 03-Jun-14 19:07:19

Hi it's nice to see a bit more activity on here, I love reading all your posts, gives me comfort to know we are all going through the same,
Hobbjobb hope the feeding is a bit better, I felt like that too but Gracie is 19 days old and we have better days than others, but in general seems to be getting better and going in the right direction
I might try the feeding twice on one boon too, as our main problem is wind that does not come up and give her a disturbed sleep!
Gracie is only breast feed but seems to have a red bum, she is changed regularly and I only use cotton wool and water but she still has a red bum, I am using cream but not working much, I have not had anything spicy to eat, but she does poo lots and list, has anyone else had this problem?

moas Tue 03-Jun-14 20:04:56

surprise we had terrible nappy rash during first week, metanium sorted it out in a couple of days. I blame the super frequent poos! He'd explode after every feed! It's getting better now I give him one breast at a time.

moobaloo Tue 03-Jun-14 21:41:56

Anyone else struggling to keep up with feeding? I'm having to express and bottle feed in order to get enough into Freddy to get his weight back up (managed it! Now just got to maintain it) and so my day is a three hourly rotation of bottle feed for 1 to 1.5 hours depending on how sleepy he is, with a nappy change in the middle and offering both breasts so he doesn't forget completely how to feed (he just can't get enough out exclusively breastfeeding and gets stressed), put him down to sleep. Express for 15 mins, clean area/changing table/sterilise bottles. Small break. Express for another 15 mins. Small break. Gather things, try to wake baby, feed for 1 to 1.5 hours etc.

It's hard expressing enough milk to keep up as I can't miss doing any to sleep etc. I can't express enough in one go either as it stops flowing, so I'm feeding at 4am, expressing, sleeping for 1.5 hours and then waking to express more and feed again.

I shouldn't complain as at least he's sleeping in between feeds, but it's so tiring! I feel like an overworked dairy cow. I've not left the house once today, even just to go outside for a bit, and I've got breast milk all over my top, nightie, dressing gown and bed

Sorry about the moan! Off to express again now...

loopylou52 Wed 04-Jun-14 03:17:46

Gosh moobaloo, that sounds incredibly hard going. We had a similar sort of routine while in hospital and it was very difficult. I found expressing exhausting. I don't really have any advice to give - is it worth seeing a lactation consultant or similar? In the meantime look after yourself. You're doing an amazing job!

SholerAndChocolate Wed 04-Jun-14 07:00:03

Mummy cherry haw are you doing? You've gone a little quiet.

Moo that sounds hard going, when can you start expressing less and trusting that he's taking the right amount? Or is this the way it's going to be?

Jellymum1 Wed 04-Jun-14 08:53:52

moo that does sound hard. ive no advice im afraid as I gave up breast feeding and absolutely went to peices and uncontrollably cried for two days then sent dh to asda in the early hours to get bottles and formula. I hope it gets better for you soon. x

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 04-Jun-14 18:30:05

How is everyone

Surprisethird Wed 04-Jun-14 18:51:24

Well Gracie is 3 weeks old tomorrow and I do feel we have turned a corner, I have downloaded a app on my phone to monitor breast feeding, does loads more but I am just using the breast feeding part, I downloaded it about a week ago and it gives you your daily averages, about a week ago on averages was feeding every 1.25hrs, we have creeped up slowly and now at 2hrs, which makes me feel better! She also slept 3.5hrs last night, that's the longest since she was born! Becoming more alert a and having longer spells awake, which Is also nice. Hope everyone is doing well

Great news Surprise. I'm using an app to monitor breastfeeding too and find it really helps me know where I am. Xx

Mummycherry2 Wed 04-Jun-14 20:47:27

Congratulations to our newly posted mummies smile

Moo-Freddie is gorgeous! How's your feeding going?

I'm doing a bit better thank you sholer, infection seems to be clearing up now but I'm not convinced the antibiotics have completely shifted it yet. Have been resting and feeling sorry for myself for past few days but perked up yesterday! Managed a solo visit to the health visitor today and Alfie seems to be doing great, he is up to 9llbs and is spot on what he should be at 4 weeks. Starting to think about expressing now.. Any experiences or recommendations for me?

Met some other mums with similar age babies at centre and have been invited out for coffee with them next week smile breastfeeding mums, my health authority runs breastfeeding support sessions at children's centre which I've found really helpful. Might be worth checking out if yours do similar?

How are you ohdear? Moom you've been quiet, what's the latest on the christening? Mummytobe , how's Olivia?xx

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 04-Jun-14 21:24:57

All good here thanks mummy cherry! Glad to see you have been resting and feeling better!xx

PotatoPolly Wed 04-Jun-14 21:40:57

Glad to hear all the stories of lovely newborns!

Moo you are doing an amazing job- you sound like superwoman! brewthanks

mummytobe88 Wed 04-Jun-14 21:41:15

mummycherry everything's good at our end smile Olivia is doing really well. She's just recovered from having the cold though which wasn't very nice but we've now seemed to have cracked the sleeping situation. The past 4 nights we've had 11/11.30 until 6/6.30!!

How's little Alfie doing? Glad to hear you're feeling a bit better! Get plenty rest where you can.

Sorry been very quiet on this thread lately, I've been updating on the FB page more regularly!

Hope everyone is doing good and the little ones are behaving

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 04-Jun-14 21:42:57

I too appear to have deflected to the fb group x

SholerAndChocolate Wed 04-Jun-14 21:47:29

So glad you are doing well and have found a nice support group smile

(I forgot I name changed btw, I was cbeebies!)

Mummycherry2 Thu 05-Jun-14 02:56:00

How do I find the fb group?

Alfie is doing well mummytobe! He is doing 4-5 hour sleeps from about 10pm onwards so I'm more than happy with that and I'm starting to get the odd glimpse of a smile smile

Ah that make sense sholer! How's baby pop and how are you coping with the other little ones as well?

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 05-Jun-14 09:14:37

I'm positive somebody wise wi come along and add you. I'm too thick lol

moobaloo Thu 05-Jun-14 12:42:36

Questio for the breast feeders - how long did your babies feed for at 1 week old? And how much did it hurt?
I'm persevering with bfing Freddy BUT he is awkward to latch and when he's latched properly (midwife opinion) he stays on usually happily for 5-10 minutes before pulling away and I then find it very hard to latch him on again, although he'll take a bottle of EBM after this so I don't think he's really getting much from the breast. Now he's putting on weight I want to get back to exclusively bfing but we're both finding the bottle so easy as I know he's got enough into him and he's lazy on the boob, I think. He gets cross with it! The other reason I'm finding it easier to express is bfing hurts! I don't know whether his latch is wrong or if it's the normal pain of sore nipples and it will improve the more I do it, but I don't want to do it too much if it's wrong! It's bearable pain, feels a bit like expressing did when I started doing that, and I've got used to that already.

What do you think?

moas Thu 05-Jun-14 13:39:22

Hi moo, very impressed with your expressing and breastfeeding! I found it got less sore after about 10 days. I was worried too that DS2 did not latch on perfectly but I think the nipples just needed to toughen up in our case. I used to be a big expresser with DS1, as he was in intensive care for the first month and then never learnt to bf. I expressed for about 4 months with him and then went on to formula. With the experience of DS2 though, I have to say I found expressing much harder work than bf. It's amazing to not have to worry about bottles! If I were you I would try to persevere for another week or so, to see if things improve.
Have you tried leaving him a bit longer between feeds to see if he is less lazy? It helped us (we use a dummy in between feeds). I still find it hard to know if he is getting enough but I'm starting to trust that he is. Nappies and weight are the only keys, really. Had him weighed this morning and he'd gained 11oz in a week so it seems to be working!! Good luck.

Mummycherry2 Thu 05-Jun-14 19:32:43

Hi Moo, you're doing amazingly well!

I remember mine were painful for first week or so, are you using Lansinoh cream? Expensive but well worth it! I also found putting warm flannels around boob helped and soothed.

Alfie was a bit like that and still is actually, he doesn't feed for massive periods of time. He guzzles for about 5-10 mins then grumbles and then will go on again and repeat this 3-4 times. When I saw the breastfeeding counsellor at health centre she watched and said its because he has trapped wind. Lol trust me not to notice that for nearly a month :- s! Have you checked freddy for that just in case?

My personal opinion is to just do whatever works for you, as long as he's putting on weight and you're both happy and comfortable..who cares! Xx

Sonneck Fri 06-Jun-14 07:38:28

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ohdearitshappeningtome Fri 06-Jun-14 09:31:14

It's quiet

moobaloo Fri 06-Jun-14 18:13:11

It is quiet! I don't want to post too much and make it all me me me!

Ok questionnaire for you all

Does your baby look like you/your partner/aunty Ethel? Or like no one in your family?

Freddy looks just like dp when he was a baby, it's uncanny!

Bezzabelle Fri 06-Jun-14 21:43:42

Baby looks like me I think but also exactly like ds1 did as a baby and he now is the spitting image of dh so I'm not expecting it to last!

ohdearitshappeningtome Sat 07-Jun-14 03:22:25

Apparently mini me looks like me! Apparently when I take a pic of him it's like a selfie!

Chip86 Sat 07-Jun-14 07:33:06

She is a clone of DH except her mouth wich is like my DF she is calm like me and folders her arms like my nan smile

sambababy Sat 07-Jun-14 22:35:40

She has my turned up nose! (I was rather hoping she wouldn't!)

SicknSpan Sun 08-Jun-14 08:39:22

All three of my boys look very much like their dad. Hardly anything of me at all! (Although ds2 has got my red hair which I am very pleased about, such an ego!)

MasterFlea Sun 08-Jun-14 10:55:38

Wow, is it Sunday already? I really must try harder to keep up with this thread.

Moob wrt how often ds was nursing at 1 week, basically whenever he was awake. I don't use a watch so can't say times. He's 4 weeks now and only now interested in lioking about and not always feeding.

As long as there are plenty of wet nappies and he looks like he's looks like he's growing, then I trust he's getting enough from the boob. Some babies are faster at feeding than others.

We had his weight checked at 2 weeks and will be in the clinic again on Tuesday. He has outgrown a lot of clothes already.

He looks like DH too. But sometimes a little like my father too. My other two looked like me so it is nice that the final baby resembles him. DD2 is 2 yo and still looks like me. Um

moas Sun 08-Jun-14 17:23:37

Just a quick update on the feeding here.. I suspected that my boy was having lactose overload, posted an article on here about 10 days ago. He was having greenish poos, wanting to feed all the time, gaining weight fine. I've now given him Colief for a few days and it seems to have sorted the problem! No explosive nappies and a much more settled boy, feeding every 3-4 hours. Happy days!

Can't believe he's 4 weeks tomorrow! Looks a lot like DS1 when he was a baby but darker hair.

Hope everyone's had a nice weekend! The days/weeks seem to slip away fast, i think, not been up to much.

This fell off my 'Threads Im on" again! Spend more time on the Facebook group nowadays.

Good news moas, I've heard good stuff about Colief smile

Callie's weight gain is a bit off; she started on 50th centile, then down to 30th and now she's on the 9th. Trying to encourage her to eat more but she's so active and wriggly and trying to move about that I suspect she just burns it all off really quickly.

Everyone says Callie looks like me. She started out as a clone of her dad but now I'm starting to see it smile

ohdearitshappeningtome Mon 09-Jun-14 18:30:29

Your doing grand moomin

Bezzabelle Mon 09-Jun-14 19:08:27

Hi all, so quiet on here now and not on Facebook so am hoping people will still pop back here.

How's everyone feeling about their weight? I know it shouldn't be important but everytime I get dressed in the morning, I feel a bit down! I know it shouldn't matter and I have a gorgeous baby that's only weeks old but I'm in that annoying in between stage where my normal clothes don't fit but maternity stuff is hanging off me. Probably doesn't help that it's summer so can't even hide under layers. Anyway, know I sound shallow so will stop moaning now and go and look at my lovely boys and be proud of my body that has grown and given birth to them!

I'm hovering at just under pre-pregnancy weight but I really want to lose more, mainly to get rid of the mummy tummy thing which is really getting me down. I don't understand where the weight's gone from because it's certainly not my tummy grin hmm I was going to do the 30 day abs challenge but I need to get my ab muscles checked first because they're not feeling quite right.

MasterFlea Tue 10-Jun-14 12:43:02

I wish I looked like normal again too. I have to keep reminding myself that I just had a baby so shouldn't be so impatient. My feet look like normal feet again so that is nice.

Babyflea was checked at the clinic today. No idea of this centile chart thing but he is now 4.5kgs and 55cm tall. He is doing really well so far.

But we all have colds this week and he was finding it difficult to breathe while feeding. And his nose was worse lying down so last night was very hard for us. Had to let him sleep in our arms for stints to help him breathe.

nugget05 Tue 10-Jun-14 13:30:04

Little update, baby nugget is still known as baby no name poor child, but is a happy baby (mostly) and putting on weight. We persevered with the breastfeeding and are now almost pro's, although we nearly had an argument when we went shops today. He got hungry, as babies do, and people were tutting and shaking their heads because he started crying. Found a quiet bench out of the way and fed him but people were giving me dirty looks! Pricks!! I got so angry I forgot the breast pads we went out for and now have to go back angry angry angry some people shouldn't be allowed out.

Separate issue and more important, baby nugget has been throwing up, not just little socks but gushes of vomit quite watery it happened yesterday and again today just now (same sort of time) what could it be? I'm thinking maybe something I've eaten though I haven't had anything different, or maybe the heat? I make sure he's not in the sun, he's covered but not hot. I just don't know what it is sad

ohdearitshappeningtome Tue 10-Jun-14 21:20:00

Hope all ok nugget

dobedobedo Tue 10-Jun-14 22:03:04

Nugget my ds2 is bf and he throws up loads and loads sometimes. I think it's cos he comfort feeds and his tummy is already full and can't take any more so up it all comes! Or sometimes trapped wind can bring up loads of milk. Lactation consultant told me it was quite normal as long as they seem well and plenty of nappies etc.

MasterFlea Wed 11-Jun-14 06:31:16

BabyFlea does lots of pukes too. Yesterday morning I had to change my clothes twice before heading out. By the end of the evening, I was just wiping and thinking that I'd be in my jammies soon so no point in changing.

But he is growing like a beanstalk and a very happy chap so it must be just excess milk. Spills always look like more than the actual amount in a cup.

DH is back to work today. Will I survive with the 3 dcs?

MasterFlea Wed 11-Jun-14 06:35:12

Dobe did the lip and tongue tie get sorted out yet?

randdom Wed 11-Jun-14 12:29:24

We were discharged day one post c-section yesterday evening. Last night was difficult as I am still struggling with pain and am quite anaemic. We got through but he is feeding constantly and I do worry as I can't physically see that he is getting much as my milk hasn't come in yet. Waiting in for the midwife today . Shattered'

dobedobedo Wed 11-Jun-14 15:14:39

Masterflea yes! It was divided a week ago and feeding has got so much better since then!

nugget05 Wed 11-Jun-14 20:53:17

Oh randomm how rubbish, hopefully the midwife can suggest good pain killers that won't affect his feeding. From what I've been told they get ehat they need but small amounts and that's why they feed so often, once your milk comes in feeding should get easier smile

Baby nugget is ok now after seeing 2 different gps a phone call to the hv and a trip to a&e to be seen by 2 more drs. They think it was probably a bug that has now passed through his system but it was horrible he was sleeping almost constantly, not feeding properly and really drowsy when he was awake sad he's perked right up now and is back to his happy hungry self yay grin grin grin

moas Wed 11-Jun-14 23:07:16

randdom that sounds tough indeed! I remember I was such a wreck after my section with DS1, felt like I couldn't move the way I used to at all! Was much better after about a week though! You need to tell friends and family if you are struggling to cope, remember to look after yourself, you're the most important person to your baby! Don't worry about feeding, they have enough in storage til the milk comes in. Great that he is keen on feeding, slab the lanisoh on the nipples....

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 12-Jun-14 21:07:51

Such a hard day today :-(

moas Thu 12-Jun-14 21:24:56

What's going on ohdear..?

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 12-Jun-14 22:24:03

Mini me very unsettled after his injections and screamed for 3 hours solid:-(

MasterFlea Fri 13-Jun-14 06:26:34

Has he settled now Ohdear? What injections were they? I'm curious about the innoculation differences. I'm in Finland and so far DS has just gotten a BCG jab at birth. But he is back at the clinic in 2 weeks time. Norovirus is next I think.

Good to hear the tt is fixed Dobe.

moas Fri 13-Jun-14 09:15:21

What a shame, hope things are better this morning! Has he got a temperature?

ohdearitshappeningtome Fri 13-Jun-14 21:11:23

He's slept all day!!! He's had his hep and tetanus etc and bcg

MasterFlea Sat 14-Jun-14 05:28:59

Poor boy. I hate innoculations. Hope he is better soon.

C has her jabs on Wednesday sad dreading it!

Don't think she's having the BCG... is it a location thing?

moobaloo Mon 16-Jun-14 17:43:15

Hope everyone's ok! It's time consuming this baby thing isn't it??

We are day 18 today and discharged from the midwives weighing 10 lbs 10 1/2 oz after a 10'3 birth weight - yay! Also can barely believe he's gaining weight so well on breast milk, the first two weeks were such a struggle with expressing and bottles and cups and then going back to boobs, we have been using shields and exclusively breastfeeding since Wednesday and it appears to be working! It's so unbelievably hard but I think we've turned a corner now phew

Huge hugs and love to all of you and I'm looking forward to us all having a bit more time soon (when??) to catch up on how all our gorgeous babies are doing xxx

MasterFlea Mon 16-Jun-14 20:24:10

Wow Moob, that's great news.
Good luck with the Jabs Moomin. Did you ever get an answer on whether Callie was lactose intolerant?

Babyflea is doing really well. He was cluster feeding all day so I think there is a growth spurt coming. It made the day harder as getting the two girls' food and all the rest when he didn't want to be put down. Hopefully he will have a nap tomorrow on his own.

He is starting to smile a bit now. Especially for DD1. He's not too keen on DD2 though. She is 2 yo and sometimes rough with him. She doesn't realise he is not like her toy baby.

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 18-Jun-14 21:55:47

Checking in again.... This dropped off !

ClearlyMoo Thu 19-Jun-14 22:30:29

I lost the plot and lost the thread. Hello all. Had massive BF problems:

Low milk supply (anaemia)
Tongue tie (had 2 frenulotomys)
Cracked and sore nipples
Baby not regained birthweight at 4 weeks - formula top ups required

Still going but "owwww"... Looking for encouragement really!

Getting a bit annoyed at all the people who think I should stop. M
I'm so so determined to keep going!

randdom Thu 19-Jun-14 23:28:53

I am sorry that things are so difficult at the moment. I can somewhat relate, I have been having problems too, we are currently struggling to cut down the formula top ups that He was put on when he was readmitted to hospital on day 4 with dehydration. I never thought that things would be this hard hmm all I have ever wanted to do is breastfeed and I just feel I am failing hmm

ClearlyMoo Fri 20-Jun-14 11:05:07

Randdom that's how I feel too. Still not back at birth weight at nearly 5 weeks. Just pushing on and feeding as much as I can. Feeling so so poorly though.

MasterFlea they don't think she's lactose intolerant. Just lazy bowels possibly (taking after me hmm ) so nothing that can't be solved by baby massage and comfort formula smile

moobaloo Fri 20-Jun-14 22:15:38

Hi pugs randdom and clearly xxx it's SO hard! If a success story will help I truly thought I'd be expressing for months or using formula with Freddy as it was so hard to get him to latch and he'd do it wrong and not get anything and then when he was putting on weight with EBM in a bottle and the occasional formula top up when I couldn't make enough I had to go back to breast which was so difficult, but I am now using nipple shields and he is gaining weight because he can latch on to me properly via them and it's not a nightmare any more! It's such a relief. It's still hard because he's lazy and doesn't feed for long enough so feeds little and often, bit we're working on it and I just can't believe it's working sometimes as it's been so hard! You are doing AMAZING jobs please stick at it as best you can. I got through the first week without a bottle by taking it one feed at a time and promising myself that I could go back to expressing any time if it got too hard or I didn't think he was drinking enough but each time I thought I'd do it we managed to finish a feed and it was ok and there would be a dirty nappy and I'd think, ok, this is working for now, but I can always go get the bottle... It was a safety net for me as I just thought he wasn't getting anything because I couldn't see it! But he put on weight and the midwives discharged me and so far so good we keep at it smile

bushprincess Sat 21-Jun-14 09:33:14

Hugs clearly you'll get there and are doing amazingly, mooaloo had very sage advice! Sorry ivy been absent, been using fb mainly but thought I'd too by and see how you are all doing, esp hose not on fb like clearly Xxx

Bastian and i are heading back to zim (and back to dh who ad to go back to work last week ) can't wait!


Chip86 Sat 21-Jun-14 14:35:48

clearly random sorry your having problems keep going back to your HV untill you get the help you need and its better
i have the other problem over supply and fast let down means she does not latch properley and chokes sad but had loads of support and it getting better slowly smile

have a safe trip bush

randdom Sat 21-Jun-14 17:26:22

It has been a difficult 24 hours. We have had constant breast feeding which I guess is good and he is wolfing down his top ups. It is just difficult because we are cutting down the top ups on advice from out health visitor but appears so hungry I am terrified he is going to start loosing weight and end up back in hospital again sad

SarahJinx Sun 22-Jun-14 07:46:00

Fell off my threads too. Sorry you're having such a rough time clearly and random bf'ing is either one of the easiest or hardest things you'll do imo.

Random you don't have to stop giving the top ups if you aren't ready to? Your baby, your choice. If its helping you and your gaining confidence then maybe consider doing it for a little longer? Clearly hope you're getting the right support, sounds like you've had a nightmare. For both, good help us available on the feeding boards on here, more specialist. And you can contact la Leche League too.

ClearlyMoo Sun 22-Jun-14 09:12:06

Thanks all for the support. Things improving on mastitis front. Antibiotics seem to be working. I'm less delirious and def a bit perkier. I think all this stuff about BF making you lose weight is utter pants! I eat so much crap cos I'm hungry after feeds. Piggy me.

Also baby B seems to be getting more used to latching post TTD.

I'm hoping we can wean off formula soon

Randdom the way I read to do it was reduce by one ounce (30ml) per day.... B is on 300ml give or take at the mo. So I'm throughouly expecting it to take 10 days once we start...

Hugs to all.

randdom Sun 22-Jun-14 20:01:22

My husband is going back to work tomorrow and I am terrified sad how have other people found it?

moobaloo Mon 23-Jun-14 13:51:37

How was yesterday randdom?

My dp is self employed and I wish he'd go back to work - we need the money! However I think he got too used to hanging around here as he seems to always be here! He went to 'work' the other day and was only gone an hour and a half. Annoying. Haha. Of course he's never close by if I'm feeding and need a glass of water or something to eat, what's the point in having him here!?

randdom Mon 23-Jun-14 21:47:27

First day back was pretty rubbish. Just felt completely alone and overwhelmed. Still feeling miserable about feeding and my mood in general is pretty rubbish.

Hope others have had better days sad

moobaloo Mon 23-Jun-14 22:16:18

sad what are your problems bfing? Are you still seeing your midwife a lot? What does she say? It's so hard but you can do it, you're doing a fab job smile do you have any mummy friends in RL who can give you some support? Or a local bfing cafe? I've not been to mine yet but have been told it's really good as everyone's in the same boat and very helpful smile xxxx

moas Tue 24-Jun-14 14:44:45

You're both doing a great job trying to get the bf sorted! It can be really hard, I had a nightmare with my first. This one has been easier, my main concern is the fact that he has SO many dirty nappies... Honestly 8-10 per day sometimes! Had 6week GP appointment today and sent off a sample just to be sure.
randdom, I'm worried about you! You need someone to lean on by the sound of things, seems you're not ready to be on your own. Do you have friends and family nearby who could give you a hand? Ask for help, be honest and tell people if you find it hard to cope! It's super important! My dear friend slipped into post-natal depression, it can happen to absolutely anyone! X Thinking of you!

Nunyabiz Tue 24-Jun-14 19:47:14

Hello. I know I'm a bit late but hope i can join in again. I was on the pre natal threads - nc'd (chattychattyboomba) was due 27th May...DD2 (Penelope) was born (induction) 4th June- 9lb 8oz...
She's now 20 days old and absolutely lovely...BUT....shock We are really struggling with the feeding. Anyone else's baby very unsettled after feeds? She is EBF and trying my best to stick to it. I'm not finding it painful anymore, but she's just sooooo... I don't know the word... And possibly too tired to think of it. All advice welcome!!!

Nunyabiz Tue 24-Jun-14 19:50:17

And I'm sorry I haven't read the whole thread as my eyes are burning and my head is banging and I have a screaming child attached to me and a naked toddler who won't eat her dinner.... But... I hope it's ok for me to post here.

randdom Wed 25-Jun-14 03:24:16

Thanks everyone. I have loads if support from friends and people have been popping in to help with washing etc and to help with the baby. I guess I am just finding the transition hard. I will get through it I guess I just need time x

moas Wed 25-Jun-14 10:25:03

nunyabiz Is she gaining weight ok? We had this during the first weeks https://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/lactose-overload-babies. Colief has helped. It could also be reflux? Sometimes they can have reflux even though it's not coming up as vomit.

Nunyabiz Wed 25-Jun-14 12:57:37

Thanks so much moas. That sounds exactly like what the problem is! She has been putting on weight. I think she's at 4.6kg now, 3 weeks old today. We have had a few yellow butter chicken style explosions but also the green frothy ones (sorry tmi). I was majorly engorged for 2 weeks and it has calmed down a lot thankfully (excruciating!) and I didn't want to block feed because of the pain in between and also worried about mastitis developing as I was getting feverish and burning and lumps etc...although I do give her one breast per feed. I think it's just waiting for my milk to regulate and not be so much of the watery stuff!
I even tried giving her a dummy to soothe her but unlike DD1 she has no interest in it... Which admittedly I find might be a blessing in the long run.
I will find out about getting some colief. Hopefully it will help.

Thanks again for the advice. Very helpful! X

moas Thu 26-Jun-14 15:57:44

Happy to help! This thread is not very active these days, most people are on the facebook group. You can find out how to join further back on this thread. I'm not on facebook though so will keep lurking here!

ohdearitshappeningtome Fri 27-Jun-14 00:40:39

Everyone is well

randdom Fri 27-Jun-14 11:34:35

I am going to brave a trip into Central Brighton today on my own for the first time with baby... Have to get the bus as I am not driving post section yet! Wish me luck!

moobaloo Fri 27-Jun-14 18:41:57

Good luck random! Hope it went well!

randdom Sat 28-Jun-14 00:29:37

Made it there and back without him waking up! Feeling much happier now that first journey is done smile

kj21 Sat 28-Jun-14 16:56:45

this is my first post and I am looking for advice from other new mums. my dd is 5 weeks old and has been suffering from reflux. she's on sma gold and has been prescribed gaviscon which hasn't really worked. I've just got some sma stay down to try and I've noticed a difference after only one bottle. i wondered if anyone has had this on prescription.

moas Sat 28-Jun-14 18:45:42

Well done, randdom and baby!

kj21 DS1 had reflux due to another medical condition. He was on Gaviscon, Ranitidine, Omeprazole and Carobel (thickener). We never tried sma stay down, fantastic if it does the trick for your wee one! We had baby's bed slightly tilted, try a foam wedge under the cot mattress.

Hope everyone's well and all our non-FBers are enjoying motherhood!

ohdearitshappeningtome Tue 08-Jul-14 21:37:05

How is everyone

NannyPlumForPM Thu 10-Jul-14 15:52:30

Still here smile still thinking of you all and hoping your babies are as snuggly buggly as mine. Almost out of the casts now- I can't wait! She giggles away most mornings and life is just a lot better since she arrived! Thinking of moomin- oneborn, dobedobedo, cbeebies, moas, randdom, bushprincess- gosh there's just too many of you! And I hope the pfb is doing well too smile

ohdearitshappeningtome Thu 10-Jul-14 21:10:17

How are you nanny ?

NannyPlumForPM Fri 11-Jul-14 00:56:19

Very well very well!! When I put oneborn I meant you ohdear haha - still got a touch of the baby brains I think. She's a chunky girl -
On 210ml bottles of hungry baby milk now! Little porker smile sleeps from 7 until 5 though, has a bottle then sleeps until about 8:30 when the big one wakes her up so quite a quiet life really!! How about you and your little one?

randdom Fri 11-Jul-14 08:56:13

I wish Isaac would sleep that well. I was up from 2-5 with him last night and then he woke up again at 7 and is still up now sad

ohdearitshappeningtome Fri 11-Jul-14 10:16:18

Mini me is 12 weeks and takes 6oz every 3/4 hours! Awake all day and sleeps 7-5/7 has a bottle then down until 830 /9! He's a content baby most of the time but ppl tell me he's fat

NannyPlumForPM Sat 12-Jul-14 22:54:22

I really feel for u randdom- my first was like that... Never settled on her own and only ever slept 3 hours at a time until she was 3! I deserved this for a second baby ;)

PotatoPolly Sun 13-Jul-14 10:13:45

Checking back in, lovely to hear about the non fb Maybies smile

dobedobedo Sun 27-Jul-14 21:03:46

Just did a search for this thread... Nanny, how you doing? Any chance you wanna join fb? smile
I'm very glad to be past the painful and confusing newborn stage and on to the equally confusing chubby baby stage! I've been managed to sleep for longer than 3 hours a couple of times! grin

ClearlyMoo Tue 29-Jul-14 03:52:09

Hello everyone!!

I really should've paid more attention how to join FB group!

Anyway me and baby B are on the mend after a difficult 5 weeks.

Once her tongue tie was snipped the second time things started to improve. Then I got mastitis. It would not shift and it turned out I had a "large lactational breast abscess"!

After three needle draining attempts I was referred for surgery under general, whilst I waited for that (in a waiting room!) it burst and so they fixed it under local. That was three weeks ago. Since then I've had dressings changed daily because the wound needs to be kept open. I have a hole you could stick a bic biro in in my boob!!

We are still breast feeding and as of today she is exclusively breast fed!!

It's taken two months of top ups abd a month of top up reduction, but I think we are almost there!!

If anyone is able to pm me about Facebook group I'd like to join! I miss you all!

Hezbean Tue 29-Jul-14 20:19:17

We miss you moo! Sounds like you've really been through it! Well done for sticking with it! Will pm you x

Hezbean Tue 29-Jul-14 20:20:44

I can't pm you for some reason - can't click on your name. Try pm ing me with your fb details and I'll add you!

dobedobedo Tue 29-Jul-14 21:20:02

Moo that sounds just horrendous! Are you in a lot of pain? You're a frigging hero for ebf with all that parlarva.

Pm your fb details to one of us and we'll add you.

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 06-Aug-14 08:33:48

Hey maybies! How we doing

mrsmummytobe Sun 24-Aug-14 19:30:44

Just did a search for this thread. Nice to hear how the non-fb maybies are doing! �� Hope you're all enjoying motherhood.

Jellymum1 Wed 03-Sep-14 21:48:05

hi all the maybies thread is quite dead is that because we're all on facebook? how about the non facebook babies how are they all.

ohdearitshappeningtome Wed 03-Sep-14 22:04:02

Checking in :-)

Hope all the non-FB maybies are doing well! smile

Squiffie Wed 03-Sep-14 23:01:42

Hello! Just marking my place so I can come back tomorrow. X

Chip86 Thu 04-Sep-14 00:31:02

Just poping in to say hi to all the non FB maybies how are you all doing? As you can see by the time I am wrighting this, still not getting baby off to sleep very early x

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