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July 2013 - Part 2 - All I want for Christmas is a good nights sleep!

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dinkystinky Mon 04-Nov-13 09:06:34

New thread for us to natter away on...

dinkystinky Mon 04-Nov-13 09:08:47

Its DH's birthday today - J has celebrated by not really sleeping last night - or so far today. Am hoping he'll sleep better tonight (and not wake up after 2 hours as with the last two nights) as meant to be taking DH out to dinner (only at local restaurant) tonight for his birthday.

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Mon 04-Nov-13 11:36:38

Hello shiny new thread!
I've completely forgotten what I was going to write now and I can't just scroll back up.....
I hope J's sleep improves, dinky, and you get to enjoy your evening out with DH.
Sorry about your grandmother, Abzs. I hope your dad is ok. It must be hard to lose a parent at any age. I bet she was delighted to be a great-grandmother.

ClenchingPanda Mon 04-Nov-13 12:18:25

Marking my place.

Sorry to hear your news, Absz. I bet your grandmother will have been delighted to have met your new arrival, and I hope she is at peace now.

Dinky, life sounds pretty tough for you. This boy is definitely not giving you and easy ride, is he? Fingers crossed you get the chance to enjoy tonight.

I am flying solo this week as DH is working away. Lots to do. Started by cleaning the windows outside, which now means I can see how filthy the inside is and clean them too... I'm beginning to wish I hadn't started!

Finally, <in the manner of Bruce and Tess> keeeeeeeeeeeep CLENCHING!

shelley72 Mon 04-Nov-13 12:30:17

Ooh here you all are, popped up on active convos. Must go and catch up on the other thread. Sorry J is giving you a rough time dinky and hope that you get out later tonight. Hope you are ok abzs.

I'm impressed by your cleaning clenching. Must make the effort tomorrow as have the HV round later this week. They said they want to see F but I think I'm being checked up onsmile

Thinkingofmyfabfour Mon 04-Nov-13 14:37:48

abzs sorry about your grandmother but it's lovely that she got to meet J

Trying to work out how many weeks M is now to see if dreaded sleep regression has passed or still to come. She's been sl better last 2 nights (only up twice instead of 4+)
time is flying...

BB01 Mon 04-Nov-13 14:38:50

Hi all! Bit behind as usual although trying to keep up on Fbook. So sorry Absz about your grandmother. Hope you're ok. X

Thinkingofmyfabfour Mon 04-Nov-13 14:40:58

16weeks today, but she was very overdue so maybe the worst has passed- tempting fate or what!!

dinky is J any less pukey? Hope Diwali celebrations were good

We had some fireworks with neighbours at weekend- boys were all scared and M cried, but apart from that was fun!!

dinkystinky Mon 04-Nov-13 15:10:53

Taking the boys to fireworks tomorrow night - will be interesting to see what J makes of them Thinking! Yes, he's so much less pukey now - in fact no puke (touch wood) for a couple of days (being dairy free definitely helps there) but still has a snotty cold which might be making him abit clingy.

Impressive cleaning Clenching! I tend to try to ignore my windows for as long as possible...

Nice to see you on Shelley - hope all better with you and life as a family of 5 going well.

cheekbyjowl Mon 04-Nov-13 20:15:42

enjoy diwali dinky

oh no the December 2012 baby post natal thread is also about no sleep. were doomed.

did anyone else find their babies were quite ill after jabs and rota virus? weve had days of the runs and today hes barely eating and throwing up what he does consume.

on the upside I went for an amazing walk...if anyone is herts or bucks way the ashridge estate is lovely and pram friendly

cheekbyjowl Mon 04-Nov-13 20:17:14

oh shiv has set up a Facebook group called oliver's army with some lovely photos on and updates. ..hes doing so well grin grin

Mrsd77 Mon 04-Nov-13 20:18:59

Hello all! Marking my place and having a little worry. Hoping for some wisdom please. Had L weighed and she has dropped from 98th centile at birth,settled on 75th since 4 weeks and has now slipped again to 50th. HV says she needs to see her again in a fortnight and then she will need investigating if no improvement is made. I've taken the matter into my own hands and made a GP appointment. As you know I like my GP and hope she will shed some light. You may also all remember I had to wean DS incredibly early and was hoping to be a little more "normal" in my timing with L! (Please don't give me the weaning lecture anyone, I know the rules but had no choice with DS!)

Does anyone know any reasons why this might be happening? I know that these average graphs have their flaws etc. She eats well. I actually don't think I could get much more milk in her; so much so I have been gradually introducing HB formula.

Sorry for the long self absorbed post!

Silver15 Mon 04-Nov-13 22:16:55

Marking my place.

Sorry Mrsd77 I have no idea why yo dd maybe losing weight.

Fireworks sounds good. I was also planning to go .

Glad Oliver is doing well. Beginning, thanks for the link.

J is sleeping less and I'm so exhausted.

Beginningofthejourney Tue 05-Nov-13 10:18:38

Marking place.
Don't know what to suggestMrsd but just wanted to acknowledge your post. I've got to opposite problem with weaning, I've been trying hold off as T was early but have lots of family telling me I should be introducing solids...so he sleeps at night! Everyone has an opinion don't they! Hope your gp provides reassurance x

dinkystinky Tue 05-Nov-13 16:32:10

Hmm, maybe its a J thing Silver... Hope your J starts sleeping better soon. Cheek - I know I went through this with DS1 and DS2 (our second postnatal thread when I had DS2 was entitled Attack of the Zombie mums!) and lived to tell the tale - just! - and even went on to have another mini insomniac baby...

MrsD - what is your build like and your DH's? If one of you is average or slight, it may be that L's metabolism is like that - FWIW my older boys started off on 75th percentile for weight and sat on it then suddenly dropped down to 50th (staying on 91st for height) at around 6 months - they take after my DH who is tall and lean (damn him) while I'm short and stout (rather like a tea pot.... guess who has been singing nursery rhymes to J of late blush). There's a reason why there are these percentiles as there is a huge variety among human body shapes and metabolisms - please dont let it worry you too much, especially as L is eating well and happy and thriving.

Mrsd77 Tue 05-Nov-13 17:32:58

Thanks Dinky. Both DH and I are of average height. DH has a bit of a beer belly but is quite a broad fella. I'm "big boned" and currently on the chunky side! Thanks for your reassurance. I think it's shocked me a bit that I might not have spotted her slowing down in terms of her growth. I also didn't like the idea of being told to wean, and not being ready for it. I spoke to DS hv today. She's normally really good but just said, "maybe this one needs good early too". Not what I was after really! Will see what GP says.

Abzs Tue 05-Nov-13 18:43:08

Having a bit of a bizarre moment. I am worrying about school places! The city council are rezoning the catchments for the local schools. It looks like we will be rezoned to one over a mile closer (good) which is currently only two thirds the size it will need to be for housing across the road from us (bad, but maybe good if a new building). The dark cloud on the horizon is that the primary schools in this part of the city are set to be the most overcrowded and one is still likely to be closed. It's a strange feeling, but in reality shock it's not long at all until I have to find J an ante-preschool (yes, they genuinely call it that) place.

Beginningofthejourney Tue 05-Nov-13 19:38:57

Abzs I am still in denial about finding a nursery for me going back to work, total head in the sand about school! But it seems like lots of these bubba's are going to have issues with school places!
T has been soooo grumpy today, no idea what the problem has been but have given him some paracetamol in case it's pain and he's in bed I have a small glass of wine in my hand!

ClenchingPanda Tue 05-Nov-13 21:46:08

MrsD do not worry - if your DD is well and happy, it may just be that she's settling onto her own growth line, as Dinky. F started off on the 91st, and has fallen since then. He's still above the 50th, and I think it might just have been all the third trimester cake eating that he's just taking time to go from what his birthweight was to what he's genetically destined for. Neither DH nor I are particularly tall/large people so would be surprised to have produced a rugby forward. HVs aren't worried as he feeds splendidly and is still gaining. Hope your GP can help put your mind at rest.

Beginning I have had a grumpy baby too. I think he's teething, because there's a lot of drooling, crying and just wanting to be held all the time. Not good as I have been attempting to continue my cleaning marathon. I made the mistake of looking behind the sofa and it had to be done... we have lived here for 4 years and it is possibly the first time I've done it blush. Currently relaxing with a well earned glass of wine and not sure I'll make it past 10pm!

We are in denial re return to work childcare (I know, I know) let alone school places (or the marvellously named ante-pre school) returns head to sand.

dinkystinky Wed 06-Nov-13 06:24:43

Hope you enjoyed your wine Clenching! It was exactly a year ago today I found out I was expecting J! He celebrated by having a 3 hour feed this morning followed by a chunder...

dinkystinky Wed 06-Nov-13 06:26:24

Abzs - a lot can change in 3 or 4 years. With new houses coming up in your area a new school may well open - or a new ante-preschool (great name!) X

SundaySunshine Wed 06-Nov-13 10:05:34

Ah, found you all! Silly me forgot my mn password.

Happy 'finding out you're pregnant' anniversary Dinky smile good to hear J is celebrating in style wink I must have found out around this time too, I have to dig out my old diary.

Yes, school/nursery/childminders are a worry aren't they? If you know of a good nursery then I would definitely put your name down sooner rather than later as the good ones are always in high demand.

L learnt a new game last night - getting wedged sideways in his cot! Silly boy. I think he is trying to roll over, but is getting in a right pickle with his grobag.

Last baby massage session today, I'll have to find another group to go to as he really likes socialising with the other babies

dinkystinky Wed 06-Nov-13 13:31:32

So to remind those near and in London - meet up planned for 28 Nov 11-3 - message me if you want details which I will send out next week

Abzs Wed 06-Nov-13 13:46:40

New tricks here too Sunday. After despising tummy time with a passion, J cracked lifting his head last night (when he should have been sleepy not up and playing with DH). He was getting quite frustrated that he couldn't quite reach the toy in front of him this morning - pushing with his legs but getting his arms stuck under himself - but better find a fire guard and stair gates asap.

Rolling wise, he can just about get on to his right side, but he flops back again.

I'm glad I don't have to worry about a nursery place. Some here have lists starting before the babies are born. Not sure what I'll do for occasional childcare if (hopefully when) I go back to WAH, don't think I can turn up to survey a castle with him in a sling.

Beginningofthejourney Wed 06-Nov-13 19:04:33

clenching do sofas move?!?! When T starts crawling I'm putting dusters on him to keep my wooden floors clean!
I checked my diary yesterday and I did my pregnancy test on the 4th, crazy to think that my big fat 20lbs bubba was just a teeny tiny embryo 12 months ago!
Happier baby today but has a very gruff voice so not sure if he has a sore throat or if its just from all the screaming yesterday! Definitely has teeth coming though.

SundaySunshine Thu 07-Nov-13 15:31:36

Had L weighed today, he's slipped down a centile. I'm really surprised because he's been feeding every 2hours 24/7 for three weeks. I thought he was having a growth spurt. Where is he putting it??!

Anyway, have to go back in two weeks to see how he's doing.

Looking forward to meeting the London contingent on the 28th smile

dinkystinky Thu 07-Nov-13 22:14:55

Sunday - it may be the food is going into making him longer rather than denser if you see what I mean - ds2 was like that.

Check the Oliver thread - great news afoot...

Abzs Fri 08-Nov-13 09:29:08

Sunday has your L been teaching my J how to wiggle about the cot? Found him sideways across it this morning. He seemed to be enjoying himself wiggling and kicking.

What size nappies are people using? I've had to get some size 4 disposables for J while we've no washing machine as the 3s struggle to fit his thunder thighs. How can he have cyclist's thighs without being near a bike yet...

SundaySunshine Fri 08-Nov-13 14:22:14

Lol Abzs

L is in size 3 Aldi nappies which are for 9-20lbs and are quite roomy. He weighed in at 13.7lbs yesterday so hopefully won't grow out of the stock pile I have of them before they're used up.

dinky I think L is using all his calories to grow enormous feet! His body fits nicely into 3-6 month sleep suits but I can't squeeze his big feet into the tailored foot part. Luckily I was given some footless ones, but I worry about his poor tootsies getting cold at night: there's nothing worse, I think, than having cold feet in bed!

dinkystinky Fri 08-Nov-13 17:32:21

Lol Sunday I had to snip the feet off sleep suits for ds2 too - he and L are clearly v alike!

Abzs - J in size 3 aldi nappies too

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Fri 08-Nov-13 18:34:08

Sunday - does L sleep in a sleeping bag? That should keep his toes warm enough.

N has suddenly forgotten how to nap sad. I'm hoping this is just a temporary glitch.

Off to see if I can figure out when I found out I was pregnant....

cheekbyjowl Fri 08-Nov-13 19:02:20

where was everyone when they found out they were pregnant?

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Fri 08-Nov-13 20:38:29

I can't figure out when it was, but I was at home. I eventually POAS after my mum had been telling me for a week that I was pregnant. I was convinced it was impossible as I'd been referred to the fertility clinic because I wasn't ovulating & had just started taking clomid when I started feeling sick. It was too soon for the clomid to have worked, but it turns out I'd ovulated naturally (and got pregnant!) just before I took it

My mum just seems to be able to tell. She nagged me for 2 weeks to POAS with DD1 before I found out, because she was certain. She also met one of my friends for 10 minutes & afterwards she asked if she was pregnant - turns out she was, but only a few weeks, so didn't tell me for a while.

ClenchingPanda Fri 08-Nov-13 20:47:05

Apparently sofas do move. Not sure how quite that much dust gets there. Anyway, that's that job over for another 4 years.

I was at home in my freezing cold bathroom at 0600 on 4th Nov when I found out I was pregnant. I was never ever late in almost 2y of trying so I was pretty convinced I knew anyway but I'd said that the previous month too, when I felt a bit sick. However, the line was so faint I wasn't 100% sure. I left it for DH to see but he wasn't convinced at all!

Had F weighed yesterday too. 7.2kg - no wonder my arms ache. The HV started to give me chat about how he'd slipped down another line, until I posted out she'd put the dot in the wrong place. It pays to doublecheck!

We have also started bathing him in the big bath with space to splash and wriggle. We had full on beaming grin and giggles tonight. It was so much fun to see!

Beginningofthejourney Fri 08-Nov-13 22:03:54

T is an IVF baby so I was told to do a test 2 weeks after the embryo was put back in, I was so scared it would be negative (knew I could only afford 1 go!) I got up at 6 am to wee in a pot and went back to sleep cos I thought no news was good news! Couldn't believe it when I finally did the test and it was positive!

I may have to look into this sofa moving phenomenon! smile

T loves being in the big bath, everything (and one) ends up soaked...think he might be an Olympic swimmer!

dinkystinky Sat 09-Nov-13 05:57:32

For me it was the morning of my birthday at home - working crazy hours on a deal and woke up with a migraine which I have only ever had due to hormones in pregnancy. Poas in our basthroom before heading off to work and ta-da, bonus birthday pressie!

dinkystinky Sat 09-Nov-13 09:40:46

For me it was the morning of my birthday at home - working crazy hours on a deal and woke up with a migraine which I have only ever had due to hormones in pregnancy. Poas in our basthroom before heading off to work and ta-da, bonus birthday pressie!

cheekbyjowl Sat 09-Nov-13 12:36:58

ahh great stories! smile smile mine was a very unglamorous discovery in china with a cheap pregnancy test and a squatty potty in a shopping mall . I took the test but the results were in Chinese so I still didn't know for sure! I stopped eating prawn dim sum and rice with 'meat surprise' after that though

dinkystinky Sat 09-Nov-13 19:36:36

That certainly makes a great story to tell your little one Cheek! Love the idea of trying to decipher chinese to figure out if its a yay or nay. Did the line go top to bottom instead of across too?

Abzs Sat 09-Nov-13 19:49:54

I found out a year ago today. It was a surprise (a shock to be honest) as though I'd had surgery for endometrioma I didn't know if that was the only problem and it actually went and happened. No where exciting though, just poas in our bathroom after deciding that 7 weeks was a long cycle even for me.

SundaySunshine Sun 10-Nov-13 19:30:38

No exciting POAS stories from me, just in my bathroom , but the first sight of the second pink line was quite emotional for me. It was so very feint, hardly there at all really, DH wasn't convinced. Luckily I'd bought a job lot of sticks from Amazon so I retested over and over (even after it was obvious just to see that wonderful second line appearing smile)

Went to the park today, golly it was cold. It wasn't very pleasant getting my boob out on a park bench! I deffinitely need to invest in some better bf friendly clothes.

dinkystinky Sun 10-Nov-13 19:35:27

We went to the park today too Sunday - glorious sunny but cold autumn days are lovely (and few and far between at the moment - I got more soaked walking to swimming with J on Friday than I got in the pool!) but you're right, its blimming cold getting your boobs out in the winter!

Supershiv1 Sun 10-Nov-13 22:00:23

As Oliver is coming home tomorrow i feel i Can finally join you guys in the post natal thread!
Can't promise to keep up and I may be a bit behind with my queries/questions but, yippee, I'm finally going to be a proper mum!
I found out I was pg a year ago tomorrow and we're also in size 3 Aldi nappies. Hurrah!

dinkystinky Sun 10-Nov-13 22:04:19

So exciting Shiv - hope all goes smoothly x

Thinkingofmyfabfour Sun 10-Nov-13 22:14:08

Yaay shiv welcome back!! So exciting for you to finally bring Oliver home for good!

Dh and I had just started tttc that month so I wasnt really expecting a positive result, in fact I had spotting and cramping the night before, so I took some ibuprofen and went to bed early. Next morning no af so I poas and was delighted to see a strong positive. Cant believe dd is here now, a year later, she's such a lovely wee thing when she sleeps
We've been using sling a lot more recently- for school run as she just kept crying every time we went near the school. She's much happier but ds3 really annoyed at lack of buggy board for him to stand on!
I've also had some long walks with her in sling - including having to jump quite a big stream I'd forgotten about, climbing a large gate, and climbing down an area where the path had collapsed due to heavy rain. Worth it for the lovely views but I'm going to try to stick to easier routes for a while I think!!

ClenchingPanda Sun 10-Nov-13 23:22:55

Yay! Shiv! Wonderful, wonderful news. And how amazing to have him home on the anniversary of finding out he existed at all! Hope tomorrow goes smoothly, and enjoy every second of your beautiful boy.

And listen here, lady... you have been a mum longer than any of the rest of us apart from those who've had babies before, and a blimming good PROPER one at that. Here endeth the stern talking to.wink

SundaySunshine Mon 11-Nov-13 19:45:02

Here here to that Clenching Fantastic super brilliant news shiv I'm so happy for you and mr Shiv. Good Luck hope it goes well xx

Silver15 Mon 11-Nov-13 22:00:56

Just lost a long Post.

Great news Shiv.

J is in 9-12 clothes and size 4+ Aldi nappies.
I missed his appoint for second imms. He hadn't slept well that night so we both ended up catching up on the morning. I was woken up by the nurse who called to rebook. I haven't weighed him in a while. I'm not a fan of HV clinics.

I found out i was pg on 2 nov as AF didn't show up. I was very happy and I adore him so much.

PhiePhyPhoPhum Tue 12-Nov-13 10:33:32

Marking place on here although I am useless at keeping up, making sure I am up to date on Facebook though!

YAY for Shiv!

I found out I was PG at 8 weeks in the beginning of December as was on the pill & to be honest it was the last thing I was expecting at 18! I POAS at work, expecting nothing... A minor breakdown followed at my desk, fortunately I was the only one in the office that day.

Abzs Tue 12-Nov-13 19:23:09

Phew, thank goodness for Silver's J! I was beginning my J was the fat bottomed child of the thread grin He takes after me proportions wise (poor boy) long body, short legs, sturdy derriere and has DH's climber's thighs. Currently wearing a mix of sizes from 3 to 9 months depending on item and shop. No idea where he gets his hands and feet from though mole genes somewhere.

Another Yay for Shiv, Mr Shiv and Oliver!

Abzs Tue 12-Nov-13 19:24:27

Oh dammit. That should be
I was beginning to think

dinkystinky Wed 13-Nov-13 18:20:58

Loving the finding out stories!

J had his third set of jabs this afternoon - crying jags been minimal so far so am hoping he has manned up for this set!

Mil fell down the stairs and broke her ankle yesterday - she and sil (over from US for a couple of days) were meant to be staying with us this weekend..suspect j and his big brothers will stay with me and dh will take sil to see mil instead.

PhiePhyPhoPhum Thu 14-Nov-13 22:16:50

Oh no dinky sending positive healing vibes to mil! thanks

M keeps playing up for DSis who is looking after her now I am back at work, she's been lovely all day for me, smiles & happy then I drop her at my sisters & go to work & come back to find that she screamed for hours whilst I've been at work & DSis has been getting stressed, well this worries me about leaving her now! Argh!

Abzs Thu 14-Nov-13 22:36:42

Weighed today: 8.58kg or 18lb 14oz in old money.

Spoke to hv about possible pnd. I'll see her again next week as the gp too.

Am at my dad's house where J has done his first proper rolls. Back to front then carried on over in the same direction. Of course he did the first one just as I looked down at my dinner.

dinkystinky Fri 15-Nov-13 18:08:40

Hugs Abzs - its surprisingly common for pnd to hit around the 4 month mark and you've had a lot going on outside of having a little one too. Hope HV and GP are supportive and helpful.

Yay for J's rolling. My J has stopped rolling from front to back and just lies there yelling for his handservant (yours truly) to roll him over...

dinkystinky Fri 15-Nov-13 18:09:33

Phie - M is probably just adjusting to the change. She'll settle down soon I promise. Though you do need to get DSis to stop getting stressed - if she can stay calm and zen, M will calm down that little bit quicker.

Thinkingofmyfabfour Sun 17-Nov-13 18:03:15

abzs wow J is getting big! Sorry you are not feeling so great - have you got any friends with babies at all, or going to any groups with J? Even just going for walks to get out the house always makes me feel better. Maybe part of what you are feeling is to do with losing your grandmother?
I just heard about the mother and baby sessions at Belmont cinema on Wednesday's (which is my day with just M to look after). I can't go this week but think I'll try and go soon, I'll let you know when in case you fancy coming along?

dinky that's a shame about your mil, hope she heals quickly!

Well I had my residential course last week, 2.5 days of learning and 2 nights in hotel with M in tow- and she was great! Smiling, cooing generally pretty quiet and extra lovely. I'd say I missed less than 10% of all the talks, and that was mostly through having to go out and change her nappy. So major phew and yay on my part, as it was a bit of a gamble going this year. Couldn't have done it without my sling which I'm now using almost all the time as M now seems to really hate being in the buggy. I've been kind of cold on school run so I've bought a second hand baby-wearing coat which will hopefully arrive this week (in time for the cold snap hopefully!)
M is just over 4 months old now, where has the time gone?

dinkystinky Sun 17-Nov-13 19:14:52

Wow its been quiet on here. So pleased you had a good time (as did M by the sounds of it!) on the residential course Thinking. You must must must go to the cinema - J and I have been going to our local independent cinema to watch various films on a Monday and its lovely (and you can only really do it before the babies get mobile so make the most of it!). Thanks for your well wishes for MIL - we went down to brighton today to see her and she's looking pretty good and fairly mobile so fingers crossed she'll bounce right back.

cheekbyjowl Sun 17-Nov-13 23:02:51

that's good news about your mil dinky

phie hats off to you for returning to work. you're doing brilliantly im sure and hopefully m will settle into the change soon

abz hope you can get some good support around you. are there any other fifo wags nearby who you can natter with when your dh is away

woop for the success in the residency course. that's impressive work smile smile

operation sleep is underway in our house tonight. dh has developed insomnia from the broken nights and changed job
j is still waking eveey 90 mins so im now camped out on the floor by his cot in the hope he sleeps better and doesn't disturb dh. Im glad im only 5ft and a bit as im lodged between furniture. praying there are no spiders x

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Mon 18-Nov-13 06:26:44

How did everyone sleep, cheek?

SundaySunshine Mon 18-Nov-13 09:38:19

Ah Phie, going back to work is really tough, you're doing really well. Hope you're DSis can minimise her stress.

We took L swimming for first time on Sunday. He did really well, even though the water wasn't particularly warm. Stayed in for nearly an hour and then he feel asleep on my shoulder! Interestingly he had his best night sleep for over a month, only woke up twice, but the first wake up at 12.30 he fed enthusiastically for a whole hour. He usually falls back to sleep after 10 mins. So maybe the extra exercise did some good? Unfortunately DD spent most of the night awake and L's (pampers) nappie couldn't compete with the marathon feed so he woke up in a big puddle, ach! Still there is hope that one day I might be able to get more than three hours sleep in one night.

Beginningofthejourney Mon 18-Nov-13 18:24:05

I'm so glad I'm not the only one suffering from sleep deprivation! I've struggled this weekend as its all catching up with me...I don't even expect him to sleep right through but I was excited last night that he actually went 4 hours! I might punch the next person that asks me what kind of night we had! Lol
thinking very impressed I wouldn't have risked it! smile
Hope everyone else is ok, I can't remember what else I planned on commenting on!

cheekbyjowl Mon 18-Nov-13 19:22:05

thanks still dh went to docs today and got given something to knock him out so fingers crossed it works for him as hes really suffering with it. j is not a sleeper. I think im soft but tried to settle him last night without feeding him. it didn't work but ill persevere. Beginning sorry you're having a tough time with sleep too. if you find something that works let me know!

Beginningofthejourney Mon 18-Nov-13 20:39:45

I'll share if you share cheek ...my nan was told by a doctor that wet sand in a sock doesn't leave a mark! Not sure that's good advice these days! Lol

dinkystinky Mon 18-Nov-13 21:23:50

Cheek, Beginning, you have my sympathy - my j isn't a sleeper either. We are trying giving him a bottle of ebm when he first wakes to see if he will stretch himself out between feeds about more...

Silver15 Tue 19-Nov-13 08:41:35

Beginning lol to the wet sand in a sock.

I can relate to the non sleepers. My J has also not been sleeping well. He likes waking up in the night to have a 'chat'. This would sometimes stretch for 3 hrs to abt 5:30am yet i have to get the other 2 ready for school in thr morning plus school run. Last night was good though. He had his imms during the day and by night time he had a fever. I gave him calpol which helped. I've just woken him to feed as the boobs were leaking so much due to lack of action in the night.

Abzs Tue 19-Nov-13 08:53:15

Any one else have snow?

cheekbyjowl Tue 19-Nov-13 08:56:46

no abz but im jealous!

Abzs Tue 19-Nov-13 09:16:34

It's only 1cm, but third week of November = winter round here. First dusting of snow and the geese back in the field.

J has just woken up soaked after a mammoth sleep. Need to get the bedding stripped and through the wash before the men turn up to lay the vinyl in the kitchen.

dinkystinky Tue 19-Nov-13 09:46:08

Well bottle of EBM conclusively rejected when he woke at 10 last night - but he slept till 2.30 then! So I guess it sort of worked...

Wow at the snow Abzs - am dreading it here with the school run as the roads in London are rubbish at the best of times! AT least up in scotland you're set up for it!!

Beginningofthejourney Tue 19-Nov-13 15:04:55

Snow! We have a crisp sunny day today. We had a talk on weaning today at baby class apparently the latest research says that you shouldn't start before 17 weeks but should have started by 6 months, If left til nearer 6 months then move through stages quite quickly. We started about 3 weeks ago and already up to 3 meals a day!

cheekbyjowl Tue 19-Nov-13 16:39:00

tell me beginning how's weaning going? are you doing puree or finger foods. ive tried j with the odd bit of fruit but interested to know what others are doing. I asked the hv why it was 6 months now since our generation were weaned earlier and I concluded that breast milk is sufficient till 6 months but you can introduce solids before then should you choose to. ..but don't start with nut roast and steak tartar smile

Beginningofthejourney Tue 19-Nov-13 20:20:51

I started with baby rice made with breast milk but T wasn't overly bothered, then tried a bit of puréed carrot, then some baby breakfast of some kind, T became more enthusiastic with this, moved quickly to steaming and pureeing everything, I freeze in ice cubes whats left. So far the only thing he's not keen on is banana. He enjoyed gumming toast...he wants what ever I have! Today he's had 2 bowls of breakfast, a rusk and pear purée for lunch, and 2 cubes of sweet potatoe, 2 of swede and 1 of sprout followed by 2 of apple...I'm worried I've been starving him until now!

Mrsd77 Wed 20-Nov-13 06:54:50

Beginning DS was just like that! Hungry little chap!

I saw my GP post hv weighing issue. Is v happy with L and gave me a very balanced view of weaning and all the theories. She suggested I start v slowly as it may encourage L to drink more milk as she was dropping her intake. So we too are on purées at lunchtime. Loves porridge, pear and banana. None on the bib!!! Thankfully she's decided her lunchtime bottle is now not such a horrific idea!

Saw hv on Monday who was (almost) supportive!

cheekbyjowl Wed 20-Nov-13 12:41:23

oh the cold wind doth blow and we sure have snow!

Thinkingofmyfabfour Wed 20-Nov-13 16:00:31

We had some snow yesterday but unfortunately I had dhs car as mine was getting it's winter tyres on. I had no idea how bad his car was till I started skidding down steep hill towards old stone bridge (with 50 foot drop to river). The only thing I could do to stop was deliberately go onto grass verge and skid into passing place just before bridge. I had all the kids with me and may have muttered some sweary types words till we came to a standstill. I don't think wee ones noticed as ds1 was busy exclaiming how slippy the road was shock grin
Got my own car back today and dhs car getting winter tyres today. Not the kind of adventure I wish to repeat!

M weighed today and is 15lb 10 and still on 75th centile. I predict she may be one tough cookie when she grows up grin
Still not started weaning here yet, I'm trying to hold off till 2014 anyway! Any of you doing blw?

Abzs Wed 20-Nov-13 19:46:03

Weaning here has gone no further than a taste of peach juice on a finger. He seemed to like it, so I could try some actual peach may be.

Rolling seems to be reserved for his Taid only as he has barely even tried to since we got home from my dad's.

I didn't drive any where yesterday thinking

dinkystinky Wed 20-Nov-13 20:59:45

That sounds pretty scary Thinking! I'd have sworn too I think!! Our family car is a Volvo xc90 so would be fine in the snow but the school run car is a small aygo so it'd be worse than useful in the snow!! M sounds like she's growing beautifully.

Glad your GP was helpful MrsD - and that feeding is going better now you've started weaning.

Holding off on weaning here for abit - I know from giving him meds that J still has the automatic tongue thrust and he cant really sit upright v well yet. I did purees with ds1 and blw with ds2 which was so much easier - suspect will try to go the bow route with J to, reflux permitting. Off to a weaning workshop with him tomorrow which should hopefully be interesting...

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Thu 21-Nov-13 06:31:51

N has had her worst night ever - awake every 2 hours - which wouldn't be so bad if DD1 had t been awake most of the night too. Can't complain really, but hoping thus is just temporary. We had (have) the non-sleeper with DD1.

Planning on leaving weaning until Christmas dinner unless N shows any great interest before then. We'll probably just give her some food to play with & make a mess.

Abzs Fri 22-Nov-13 09:09:18

A CatB tale

CatB wants out and is warned that it is cold today. CatB goes out. Has rapid change of mind and jumps up to windowsill in usual manner to demand readmittance. Slides along and off black ice on sill...

CatB is readmitted, only slightly disgruntled.

dinkystinky Sat 23-Nov-13 13:00:07

Catb is a one cat cure for the blues for sure!!

dinkystinky Sat 23-Nov-13 13:02:19

Dh has made up the big cot for J today in the annexe off our room - it remains to be seen if he sleeps any better in it! Am still cramming him into the carrycot of the pram - there's about an inch of space left around him!

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Sat 23-Nov-13 19:30:00

I hope J sleeps better in the big cot, dinky. N was in a crib before we moved house, but she's in the travel cot now and I think she sleeps better. She doesn't lose limbs out of the side of it, which is a bonus.

Abzs Sat 23-Nov-13 20:18:59

Dinky Hope your J likes his new bed just enough to sleep in it, but not play around. Our J seems to have decided that feet to foot is passé and shuffling up to dunt his head off the bars at the other end is the way forward. He's also taken to throwing poor Teddy around.

We went out to Braemar today. There's snow on the ground in town there. Forgot J's coat so he ended up wrapped in my insulated gilet.

dinkystinky Sat 23-Nov-13 22:34:46

Vinegar - am pming you now about the meet up on Thursday in London. If anyone else wants details let me know.

dinkystinky Sat 23-Nov-13 22:49:42

Abzs - DS1 and DS2 went through that phase- I remember it well! Fortunately J isnt that mobile yet (probably because he's still in a swaddle bag) but I'm sure its only a matter of time.

Hope you didnt get too cold out and about...

Beginningofthejourney Tue 26-Nov-13 10:54:57

I decided at 3am on mon morning when T was screaming and wouldn't go back to sleep after already feeding 3 times enough was enough and it was time for tough love and a decent nights sleep! So last night I braced myself for hours of screaming (while wondering how long I'd actually last!) so after T feed I gave him a kiss, gave him his teddy, told him I loved him but it was time for sleep and put him in bed turned the light out and held my breath...blow me he went to sleep with bearly any fuss by 7pm! I couldn't relax as I was convinced he'd wake all evening...he stayed asleep until half midnight, fed and went straight back to sleep...then at 5am he was wide awake after his feed but I repeated the routine and he chatted for a few mins before going to sleep! Refreshed from a 'good' nights sleep I put him down for a morning nap at just gone 9am, he cried for less than 5 mins but mainly tired crying and he's still asleep now!
Sorry for the epic post but I had to share while its all going so well! I've already baked a cake and prepared dinner, now having a cup of tea! smile

cheekbyjowl Tue 26-Nov-13 14:14:04

glad you had a good night beginning. do you feel well refreshed? im currently sitting cot side waiting for j to take his nap. he fell asleep at an inopportune moment as we were just outside the house and now thinks hes had his sleep. oh dear. 5 mins is not enough

Beginningofthejourney Tue 26-Nov-13 15:56:12

Hope J gave in and had a good nap cheek I have been full of energy today and considerably less grumpy!

Abzs Tue 26-Nov-13 16:20:30

We are full of cold here. J spent most of last night experimenting with his new dark brown voice. And competing with dh's snores for keeping me awake.

Have spent weeks putting up mental obstacles to doing stuff. Now there's a genuine one I'm a bit annoyed. Was going to go to the cinema per thinking's suggestion but while baby noise is allowed I'm not sure coughs are.

ClenchingPanda Tue 26-Nov-13 19:34:43

Cor, it's quiet over here!

Beginning, it seems whatever has possessed your baby is having the same effect on mine. After much hideousness last week, This week he's been asleep by 8, fed once at about 3 and woken at 8ish. And he's napping in the day. So much so that I made an apricot couronne (sp?) and a loaf of rye bread.

Thinking - car escapade sounds terrifying. Hope you are all ok.

Dinky, how is J getting on in the big cot? F seem to love the 'arms flung out' baby sleep pose in his. And SNFED, home that your youngest lady bucks up her sleeping ideas soon.

Looking forward to the London meet on Thurs!

ClenchingPanda Tue 26-Nov-13 19:35:46

PS. Hope the cold passes quickly.

dinkystinky Tue 26-Nov-13 22:04:55

Good going Beginning - long may the good sleeping last. My J has a cold which is triggering his reflux again so he's not spending much time sleeping in his cot at night - but today he did 2 big fat day time naps (one in his cot) which gives me hope that one night in the future he will sleep through! Glad to hear F is being a sleeping beauty Clenching.

Abzs - go to the cinema armed with water and lozenges and enjoy. Hope the colds pass soon.

dinkystinky Tue 26-Nov-13 22:07:01

Cheek - hope j napped in the end. My j does that too - my rule is if I can't get him down within 10 minutes I give up and try again later...

Beginningofthejourney Wed 27-Nov-13 08:51:22

Dinky T also has reflux but it seems to be a bit better since we started weaning, we were up every two hours feeding and T wouldn't go back in his bed so have hope!
Last night he only woke at 12:45 and 6:10, had milk, got dressed, had breakfast and went back to bed just after 8! He's 6 months on thurs (4 and a half corrected) so don't know if its an age thing, the cranial osteopath last week, the food or just one of those things but fingers crossed it lasts!

Thinkingofmyfabfour Wed 27-Nov-13 16:51:08

Marking place! Be back to update soon

SundaySunshine Wed 27-Nov-13 21:45:23

Sounds like the dreaded four month sleep regression is passing over for some of us, way to go beginning and clenching please let it be L next, please, please, pretty please? How's J sleeping in his new big cot dinky? L is still waking every two hours on a good night as he has been for nearly six weeks. Last night though must have been the worst so far for me. Had to take DD to the out of hours Dr as she's had a raging temp and sickness for three days. I think L is coming down with a cold as he is behaving like his got a sore throat -really hungry but crying and pulling away as soon as he starts feeding - he woke up every hour throughout the night and I was also up tending to DD. and now I have a sore throat too sad so feeling quite sorry for myself.

Hoping for a better night tonight, but I've only just managed to get L to sleep, he's on my lap still so fingers crossed he doesn't wake up when he goes in his cot. Wish me luck ... Here goes! ...

dinkystinky Thu 28-Nov-13 21:42:38

Met up with Sunday, Clenching, Runs with squirrels and a couple of others today on the south bank - was lovely to see them and their little ones who are all delightful and v photogenic. July is clearly the month to have beautiful babies in. And amazingly all babies there slept well there - fingers crossed it continues tonight!!

Thinkingofmyfabfour Thu 28-Nov-13 21:51:03

Such a busy week, back and forward to hospital appts 3 times meaning having to drive through rush hour traffic 2 days as appts at 5.15. But at least the Dcs have all had their bcgs! Ds1 had to get a blood test for something else and managed to get it done without needing the special cream to numb the skin. Brave boy, I was really proud of him grin
Looking forward to some quiet time at weekend. M has been quite unsettled over night not sure why. Dh wants to start weaning her but Im sure she will settle again. She's only ?20weeks so I want to hold off solids a bit longer. Plus I keep telling him starting weaning does not automatically mean she'll sleep better.
Quite encouraging to read here how some of the babies are doing so much better now!

Thinkingofmyfabfour Thu 28-Nov-13 21:52:35

Sounds good dinky I certainly agree re July babies being beautiful!

dinkystinky Thu 28-Nov-13 22:28:36

Glad your DC are now all covered against bcg Thinking - what a FAFF though having different appointment times for them. On the blw workshop I went to the leader mentioned weaning can make sleep worse to start with as their digestive systems get used to kicking up a notch so probably wise to ride it out

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Fri 29-Nov-13 05:15:59

Glad to hear the London meet up was a big success. Love the photos on FB.

Great to hear that some of these babies are finally starting to sleep a bit better. We spent a night with my parents and N didn't sleep well at all. She didn't want to nap in the cot there either. I'm not sure if it's something to do with the room, the cot, something else or just random. she didn't sleep well there the time before either. confused

dinkystinky Fri 29-Nov-13 05:56:59

SNFED - J is like that when we stay somewhere new too. I think babies like familiarity and strange places and cots throw them rather. Hope her sleep is much much better tonight and your parents can help with the girls so you get some rest in.

Runswithsquirrels Fri 29-Nov-13 17:24:16

Hello all, I've been hanging out over at Facebook and not here - sorry! I've read a few pages to catch up - I hope everyone is well.
ER and I went to the London meetup and it was lovely to meet real people!
ER is steadily moving up the centiles - 75 to 91 to 95 now and she weighs in at eight kilos. Vegan breast milk is powerful stuff! We are waiting until six months to begin blw mainly because I don't want to be shoving spoons in her mouth.

ClenchingPanda Fri 29-Nov-13 19:51:20

Great to meet you to, and your lovely daughter. She is doing fabulously with her growing (as are you with your feeding!).

Felix is also pretty chunky, I think about 7.5kg. We're also holding off weaning until six months - mainly because BF is just so convenient, and I'm putting off the inevitable faff of carrying around tiny tupperware boxes with bits of food in. <selfish mother emoticon>

I have had a grizzly baby today - overtired after the excitement of visiting the capital and every nap was ruined by me doing something stupid like making noise or taking him to a new parents' group. But he's asleep now - hopefully for the long haul.

DH back from his weekly Northern exile tonight. Hurrah!

Runswithsquirrels Fri 29-Nov-13 19:55:36

Oh yes, that's definitely another reason I'm holding off - BF is free and eminently portable! <cheapskate emoticon>

dinkystinky Fri 29-Nov-13 22:35:50

Not surprised F is grizzly - he was the life and soul of the party (with his sausage rolls and dive bombing of the ladeez). A boys got to have some down time some time! Have a lovely weekend with DH.

J is also pretty chunky but havent had him weighed in over a month - due to get weighed next week I think. Am holding off weaning till he can at least sit up - he doesnt seem that interested in food (abit like DS1 who can take it or leave it - unless its pizza in which case he takes it all in a matter of seconds). He's not even that interested in bfing if there's anything remotely exciting going on (like his big brothers farting around, Dh choosing socks, a blank tv screen....).

Took J swimming today - strangely for a child who spends his entire time splashing the water out of the tummy tub on to me (and the floor/walls/passing brothers) he becomes rather placid in the pool. Go figure.

ClenchingPanda Sat 30-Nov-13 11:05:08

Ha ha, Dinky. F usually feeds like a trooper but when I tried to combine bedtime feed and story, he took nothing as he spent the whole time turning his head and grinning at me.

dinkystinky Sun 01-Dec-13 22:09:59

Gosh its quiet on here! The spirit of Xmas has come to casa dinky this weekend - tree up (j most bemused by it), carols playing (ditto) and big boys school xmas fair survived where yours truly was a popcorn serving elf ( j slept through most of that fortunately).

Mrsd77 Mon 02-Dec-13 07:31:17

It is ever so quiet isn't it?! Is that because we are all excellent and just striding through it?!

All relatively calm here. L has decided to drop her middle of the night bottle which I am very grateful for; however, I am now a bit concerned she's not getting enough milk as she hasn't taken bigger bottles to compensate. She was nowhere near the magical 30oz anyway and now she's only drinking just over half of it. I keep reminding myself to look at the whole child. She's content and alert and looks and feels heavier so I should relax. Hard though!

My friend whose dd is four weeks older is the same so perhaps they are going through the same 'how to worry your mother this time' phase! Wonder weeks said a loss of appetite or fussy eating might happen so just going to chill.

Lovely that Christmas has started for you Dinky. We are Father Christmas and tree bound next weekend. DS was lovely with his advent calendars yesterday (he has ended up with five!) and opened L's for her and lit her candle too. Bless him. I'm so relieved he's such a lovely big bro.

Runswithsquirrels Mon 02-Dec-13 09:15:54

I decided on the 26th to start sharing Christmas songs with ER as it was within a month so the poor girl had to suffer with me singing along with Michael Buble. She saw her first Christsmas tree the other day and was completely non plussed. I've also bought her 'baby's first Christmas' stocking and am setting about filling it even though I know she won't 'get' it! I just couldn't bear the idea of Santa missing her out!

Silver15 Mon 02-Dec-13 13:09:40

Hello ladies,

I haven't posted in a while but I've been lurking.
I haven't done anything for Xmas yet as I have been very busy. DM left on sat. She came to visit from abroad 2 days before J was born. She has been a big help and now I have to do this school run with J. We are also moving next week so it's very busy here with all the parking to do.

Sorry for the 'me' post.

SundaySunshine Mon 02-Dec-13 20:42:43

Lovely to meet up with the L

SundaySunshine Mon 02-Dec-13 21:03:26

Silly phone...
Lovely to meet up with the London crew on Thursday. L loved socialising with all the other lovely babies and actually sleep more in a busy restaurant than at home?!

Good to hear Christmas is underway , as always I'm way behind schedule and need to get my act together. If anyone has any tips on how to get tinsel to stay attached to the ceiling I'd love to hear them. Last year I gave up on the decorations altogether, just couldn't get them to stay put.

Wow Silver it must have been great to have your mum for such a long time, it must be weird without her now. Do you get to see her much usually?

Went to rhyme time with L today, think he enjoyed it as he is now 'singing' very loudly, grinning, and refusing to go to sleep! I'm usually telling DD to quiet down so as not to wake the baby, now I having to quieten down the baby so as not to wake DD.

SundaySunshine Mon 02-Dec-13 21:05:55

Oh and good luck with your move Silver

Silver15 Tue 03-Dec-13 17:58:59

Thanks Sunday. It's weird not having her around. I don't see her often but I will be visiting her in August next year. J was so used to her and he is now down with a cold. I hardly slept last night and today has been tough with him screaming in the car during the school run.

Glad you enjoyed the London meet. I couldn't make it as I have been having visitors almost on a daily basis who came to see DM before she left.

Sorry no advice re: tinsel. I haven't done any decoration due to move.

J was weighed yesterday and the HV was worried he is on the heavy side. He will be 4 months tomorrow but came in at 9.78 above the 99th percentile. I have been instructed not to top up with formula and stick to BF only and also not to introduce any food till 6 months. Trouble is he shows interest when I'm eating but I also don't want him to be diagnosed with infant obesity.

dinkystinky Tue 03-Dec-13 18:42:46

Mrsd - ds sounds lovely with dd. V envious of his advent calendar collection!

Sunday - I gave up on tinsel ages ago. Paper chains and bluetack are order of the day round here.

Silver - wow you were lucky to have your mum over so long! Hope J feels better soon and you have a better night. Good luck with the move too!

dinkystinky Tue 03-Dec-13 19:14:15

MrsD,Silver - please try not to worry about the size and weight of your little ones. There's a reason why we have those percentile charts - some babies will be off the top and some off the bottom and lots in the middle and that's all fine. As long as they are happy healthy and active and alert (which I rather suspect both of yours are) then all is well. Silver, your J may be large now because he's not active yet - it may be he slims out alot once he's on the move. That's what happened with DS1.

Abzs Tue 03-Dec-13 19:25:47

Re decorations it did occur to me that despite dh and I being a pair of died in the wool humbugs, Grandparents will expect christmassy photos. So we'll have to have something.

Today I braved a peer group for bf mums. I very nearly ran away, had an attack of fright in the middle of the shopping centre and retreated to the shops instead of going over and saying hello. By the time I'd steeled my nerve, done the shopping and bought a drink they were almost ready to leave. And of course they are perfectly nice non-scary people and I'm going back next week.

J was all smiles, which helps, and is considerably bigger than the 5 month old that was there. And he has some new tights and cardigans from h&m...

Abzs Tue 03-Dec-13 19:45:32

Silver my J is 95th centile and starting to watch me eat. MIL says he's growing just like DH did at that age. My DB2's DSs were both off the scale and both are fit and healthy, just built like brick proverbials (taking after DB2's FIL).

cheekbyjowl Tue 03-Dec-13 20:29:45

on phone but want to say hi. abz good on you for going. don't feel nervous, children are an immediate ice breaker. im finding im definitely meeting people I wouldn't naturally have met, diff professions etc and its awesome.

silver, what a joy to have your dm around. Hope you settle in to the school run. I stick on this singing caterpillar to the car seat (it was part of his activity mat) and its really helped to distract him when im driving.

tomorrow ive got to have 7 fillings at the dentist. sad sad sad im dreading it. but my teeth have been chipping throughout pregnancy its awful. if I have another child I might need dentures, which I say slightly in jest but actually im really worried that might be the case.sad sad times.

Beginningofthejourney Tue 03-Dec-13 20:44:47

T is off the scale too! He's grown over 20cm since his birth, he loves food and wants to eat everything I have, the health visitor said he can just have the same dinners as us now. Like Dinky said someone has to be at the top of these charts :-) T has been on or above the 95th centile since his 12 week scan!

Runswithsquirrels Wed 04-Dec-13 08:31:18

ER is almost off the charts for weight and way off it for height. Her dad is tall so it's not a surprise and I'm not worried. I adore her chunky thighs although chunky, chubby, sturdy etc are all words I have banned my mother using as I know she'll carry on when ER is old enough to understand the meaning of the words!

SundaySunshine Wed 04-Dec-13 09:40:07

Blimey cheek 7 fillings!!! Hope it's not too painfull, just as well it's free for us at the moment.

Well done abz for braving the peer group. I would have felt exactly the same, but I'm sure once you get comfortable with the group it will be well worth it.

Ah Dinky paper chains are a great idea and, added bonus, I can get DD to make them -she'll love it <scurries off to The Works for shinny paper supplies> disclaimer: other discount sell-all stores are available

dinkystinky Wed 04-Dec-13 16:34:22

Ouch to the 7 fillings Cheek. Hope you got them sorted ok. My teeth were terrible when I was pregnant with DS2 but ok when pregnant with J.

Abzs well done for making it to the group - it'll be easier next time round (and as you say at least this time J came out of it with some nice new stuff!).

Beginning - great to hear T is doing so well!

My J is back to being a sleep refusnik - ho hum

Silver15 Wed 04-Dec-13 20:40:18

Thank you all for the words of encouragement.

Abz well done for attending. Hope it gets easier.

Cheek I had 2 fillings done last week and paracetamol really helped with the pain afterwords.

Abzs Wed 04-Dec-13 22:06:34

Retail therapy wise it could have been a lot worse! If I'd fled right instead of left I'd have been in Joules or The White Company.

Hope the dental work isn't too bad cheek. I really need to get an appointment for me and register J before he actually has teeth.

Sunday my dad still has the paper chains my grandmother and I made.

On sleep, I don't know if it's a new phase or the snotty nose throwing him off but J is waking up about 45mins after going to bed. Sometimes he resettles himself, sometimes he howls like the world is ending.

Silver15 Thu 05-Dec-13 22:20:10

RIP Nelson Mandela. He shall be remembered for peace and reconciliation. A kind man, full of grace and ready to forgive.

Runswithsquirrels Fri 06-Dec-13 08:02:40

A secondary school 'friend' once laughed at me when we did one of those "who would you like to meet" conversations. I think I was expected to say Bros or something, but I said Nelson Mandela because if I could meet him it meant he was free.

cheekbyjowl Fri 06-Dec-13 09:54:32

thank you. They couldn't fill all of them so im back for more on Christmas Eve. how festive wink wink

dinky j (maybe j is a troublesome initial) is getting worse at sleeping. up every hour again. but a joy in the day. hes currently loving trying to sit upright and the jumperoo (aka the circle of neglect). I've been following little olivers progress on Facebook. isn't it amazing? born so tiny but enjoying all the same things. what a miracle

hope no one has been badly affected by the storm.

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Fri 06-Dec-13 11:27:48

I've been mostly on FB lately, but it's really quiet in here. Is anyone left on here not on FB? You should register with FB under a made up name like Red Parrot to protect your anonymity & join us there. grin
N has started waking more at night and I'm feeding her every time because I haven't figured out how else to get her back to sleep at night. By day she just chatters a bit to herself and goes to sleep. Tried to just give her a cuddle last night but she started trying to feed off my neck so vigorously I thought I was going to get a love bite, so I fed her.
I weighed her (& me, to do the calculation) at my parents house the other day - she's 14lb, which is coincidentally the same amount I've gained in the last 5 months blush. I haven't looked in her book to see what line that puts her on yet.

dinkystinky Fri 06-Dec-13 12:31:05

Maybe N is going through a growth spout SNFED! Same for your J Cheek. Got my J weighed today - he's bang on the 75th percentile still at 8.14kg. My J is also trying to sit up but not such a fan of rolling. Love the new name for the jumperoo! And his sleep last night was good - only 3 wakes - third one being because (yet again) his nappy had leaked. I dont think the nappy has been invented yet that can put up with his nocturnal sees.

Hope all ok and no one troubled by the coastal surge.

Beginningofthejourney Fri 06-Dec-13 20:49:22

I'm still here but not on the Facebook group! Maybe I should just join that group?
I got to crisis point 2 weeks ago with T's sleeping/waking at night, I got a book call Save Our Sleep (its in the car to go back to library so can't check author) I haven't stuck to the routine but I was feeding then cuddling T to sleep every night so he wasn't able to self settle so I started putting him down awake by 7 ever night and he's sleeping much better (watch it for a bad night now!) and he's much happier during the day generally too. I don't want to go on too much as it bugs me when other mums preach about what works but I also know how exhausting it is when your woken every 2 hours! Might be worth a look if you're interested.

Runswithsquirrels Sat 07-Dec-13 19:26:05

Oh you should join us beginning. It's a secret group as well, so only we can see it.

dinkystinky Sat 07-Dec-13 22:36:48

I am injured and big toe nail-less thanks to an unfortunate incident with a metal gate yesterday. J was very good in a and e while I had the remains of my toe nail removed (as yuck as it sounds!).

On a brighter note took j and his big brothers to meet Santa today and while slightly bemused by the whole experience he seemed to enjoy it.

SundaySunshine Sun 08-Dec-13 09:28:36

Ouch Dinky! That sounds gruesome , poor you.

Cheek, I hope your Christmas dinner won't be spoiled by dental work on Christmas Eve. Sounds a bit of a mean dentist to me - dr Humbug?

Beginning, you should defo come over to face book. I held out for ages but its quite handy. I'm only on this secret group (and a selling group in the hope to get rid of all the pointless shit that's cluttering up my life, but that's by the by) and I've got no personal info on there. I wish I had made up a birthday and called myself Zhi Zhi though!

Runswithsquirrels Sun 08-Dec-13 11:31:08

Sunday, just go in to your settings and change it.

Beginningofthejourney Sun 08-Dec-13 12:54:50

Who do I need to tell my real name too for Facebook?
ouch dinky that sounds very painful!
I met up with my uni friends last night at stayed with one of them (with T) we had the most horrendous night ever with T not sleeping so he is extremely grumpy today, if I'd driven home we would have got back about 1/2 ish and would have got more sleep! Bring on afternoon nap time!

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Sun 08-Dec-13 13:00:03

You can PM me and I can send you a friend request and add you to the group. You can unfriendly me afterwards if you want to keep the rest of your FB private. Or I can send you my name if you're tricky to find....

BB01 Sun 08-Dec-13 18:50:56

really really behind as tend to only find time for fbook nowadays so marking spot to try to catch up at last!!

Thinkingofmyfabfour Mon 09-Dec-13 14:38:53

3 little words.....sleep deprivation hell
M doing really badly at night ( up 3 or 4 times often with a longer spell-last night from 3am till 8.30 on school run)
I'm so tired I can hardly think
Sorry no personals I can't remember who said what. Oh except ouch to dinky and cheek. pregnancy is def bad for your teeth sad

Abzs Mon 09-Dec-13 17:18:40

SNFED have pm'd re FB

dinkystinky Tue 10-Dec-13 18:32:19

Ugh Thinking hope your nights have made a marked improvement. Is M teething or down with a cold at the moment? There seem to be so many pre-xmas lurgies doing the rounds right now.

Am off to Berlin at silly o'clock on Saturday morning. Feels like just yesterday that I was pregnant and booking it! Cant believe its so nearly xmas already!!

ClenchingPanda Tue 10-Dec-13 20:08:26

Ooh, Berlin. Lovely.

We were in Copenhagen this time last year getting v cold and eating fabulous Scandi-food. And not drinking! This year I'll have to resort to watching Borgen and eating pickled herrings from a jar, but at least I can have a drink or two .

Lurgie here. The boy sounds like he has a 60 a day habit...

Abzs Wed 11-Dec-13 03:48:09

Just getting over our lurgy, after 3 weeks of snuffling. How old does he have to be before I can teach him to properly snort the snot back? I can't stand snifflers...

Out in the snow on Saturday. A combination of pram and sling to get round a walk, then a cafe for lunch and a bit of Christmas shopping. J liked dh carrying him in the sling, but not me and neither did my back, so that's fine.

Had him out in the backpack carrier on sunday for a short walk from the house. Plenty of smiles and he fell asleep on the way home. First wear of his pram suit too, channeling Maggie Simpson I think.

Went to a baby group on Monday. J was far too warm and was in a short sleeve vest and bare feet, and rolling over and swimming backwards threatening to flatten babies half his age and size. Funny how I've forgotten how small and squished looking 2 month olds are.

dinkystinky Wed 11-Dec-13 08:57:05

Aaah Copenhagen - I have fond memories of wandering around Tivoli gardens when pregnant with DS1 and DS2. Would love to take all 3 boys there - maybe next year...

Abzs - sounds v christmassy where you are. What sling do you have? I find different slings suit different body shapes - and babies. I'm still using the close carrier for J sometimes for short journeys but now graduated back to my Beco for longer journeys - though think am going to trade it in for an Ergo as J doesnt seem to comfortable in it. DH loves the Baby Bjorn still - think it suits his long tall figure (and J's too). Sounds like your J had great fun at the baby group!

Abzs Wed 11-Dec-13 12:00:03

We have the Babasling - it's a cross body one. J likes to face out, which is a bit more unstable. I need more practice.

The back pack carrier is the Osprey Poco Plus. I got a deal on it before I quit my job at the outdoor shop. It adjusts enough for dh and me to use it.

Snow is all gone now. Enjoy Berlin!

Thinkingofmyfabfour Wed 11-Dec-13 12:03:06

I'm trying to decide whether to get another sling as M getting to big for for moby. I have a connecta but not feeling very comfy so looking for alternatives. What is beco like dinky?
Sleep no better yet, M does have a cold but I don't think that's the issue. Thinking maybe it's teeth but teething gel/powders doing nothing. Might try calpol tonight as I'm desperate for a sleep lasting more than an hour at a time!

Bet the snow has gone now abzs it's so mild this week! Really strange for this time of year

Thinkingofmyfabfour Wed 11-Dec-13 12:46:49

X-post abzs I'll have a look at those links

cheekbyjowl Wed 11-Dec-13 14:04:20

Sorry for post brevity. as it seems I'm one of the last ones standing ive pmd you still no re Facebook. did it reach you?

Runswithsquirrels Wed 11-Dec-13 19:22:01

Cheek, you can PM me if no luck and I'll add you.

I've just ordered a Manduca carrier... Hope it's as good as it sounds.

Abzs Sun 15-Dec-13 21:37:12

Down to the south lands to visit my family as dh is on call next week. Am attempting to make a dent in the mounds of stuff my dad has everywhere. Can see some shelves now, may be able to use the dining table by the end of the week. Bought new curtains for his living room as his where hanging in tatters, need to do the same for his dining room too...

TinkyPeet Mon 16-Dec-13 17:30:20

Hi all, been a while since I've been on, and hope I'm in the right place? Ds2 almost 5 months and I can't get him to eat or drink much, managed to get 3oz milk down him when he fell asleep after the school run and maybe 4/5 tsp worth of baby rice at 1ish, but he was whinging and batting me away. He's teething and snotty and has a bit of a cough (I'm assuming it's because of the teeth) ....

Anyone else having trouble getting the squishies to feed? The other two just toot teething in their stride ? :S

dinkystinky Tue 17-Dec-13 06:53:03

Hi Tinkypete - yep youre in the right place. J is super distractable during feeds at the moment (its that super nosey age!) And also goes off food when he has a cold - just lots of small drinks rather than bug meals if you see what I mean. Tummy time and snot sucker pre feeds helps a bit but otherwise you sadly just need to ride it out...

shelley72 Sat 21-Dec-13 17:36:06

Hello I'm still here too - just! How do i do the Facebook thing? I just don't get how it works at all <old>

Is everyone and their babies doing ok? Can't believe that we are approaching the six month mark already. We are nearly out of 0-3 clothinggrin

If I don't make it to Facebook before Christmas i hope you all enjoy the festivities with your families x

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Sat 21-Dec-13 18:15:44

If you want to join us on FB, PM me your name and what your profile pic is like and I'll send you a friend request and when you accept I can join you to the group.

dinkystinky Sun 22-Dec-13 12:36:38

Happy Christmas Shelley (and anyone else lurking out there) - hope you and your family have a lovely first xmas with F. How are you feeling nowadays? Hope things have got a bit easier and F continues to delight.

My cousin, her DH and her 21 month old are staying with us this weekend (over from the US for just 4 days for a funeral) - J is being a little charmer and DS1 and DS2 are entertaining both J and their little cousin. Am feeling a v proud mummy right now.

Mrsd77 Tue 24-Dec-13 06:46:02

Hello! Well, L is five months old today! Where on earth did that go?! She really is an absolute delight and has completed our family a treat. She has decided too that Christmas is the time to cut your first tooth! DH noticed a couple of days ago when she bit him!!

This thread is so quiet now, I assume everyone is on Facebook. As I'm not even registered I think now is probably the right time to bow out of here. I really do want to say a heartfelt thank you to everyone for their kind words and support for the last six months; it's been great to have you to chat to and bounce ideas off.

Merry Christmas and I hope the new year brings many more wonderful times with your families. X

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Tue 24-Dec-13 09:13:23

Happy Christmas to you & your family, Mrsd77!

SundaySunshine Tue 24-Dec-13 09:49:26

Merry Christmas and a happy New Year MrsD and anyone else still logging on here. Hope you have a wonderful time over the festive holidays. Xx fgrin

dinkystinky Tue 24-Dec-13 20:06:46

Happy Christmas Mrsd - I'm glad L is bringing you such joy. I hope she sails through the rest of her teething so well too!

wifey6 Fri 27-Dec-13 08:14:44

Hoping everyone has had a wonderful Christmas x

wifey6 Fri 27-Dec-13 09:09:29

Does anyone recommend or will share their thoughts on bumbo seats please?
DS2 is sitting with minimal support from me now & has great head control so I've been looking at the bumbo seats but I'm unsure on the safety aspect of them - worried he'll topple out confused

dinkystinky Fri 27-Dec-13 09:35:36

I think they're safe with the straps but should only be used on the floor - but only really of use till basby can sit up himself ( j and his big brothers hate the bumbo though so only any good if you can get them to sit in it!)

wifey6 Fri 27-Dec-13 09:40:35

I did think that given a few more weeks, K will be sitting far more independently so then we wouldn't need it

dinkystinky Fri 27-Dec-13 18:46:52

You can normally pick them up second hand really cheaply so may be worth it if Hes getting frustrated at not being upright

wifey6 Fri 27-Dec-13 18:53:14

Good idea, I will ask a few of my friends who now have DCs older than K.

MarieKL Sun 29-Dec-13 21:17:07

Hi Everyone, I haven't been here since A was born as just haven't found the time, but having just scanned this thread I've realised how much I've missed you all and it's been to hear all your news and realise I'm not alone on so many things! Looks like I'll have to get IT savvy and work out how to use my FB account but firstly would one of you mind if I PM you and would you also mind explaining how I do that? (can you tell I learned to touch type on an old fashioned type writer to typing music played on a gramophone - I kid you not!)

Re bumbo seats my DS1 was too chubby to fit in one. Have a second hand one for DC2 but tray is cracked and the bit in the front is too wide for him to reach anything so constantly letting go of toys and then not able to reach them. Mine didn't come with straps but no way he could get out!

Abzs Wed 01-Jan-14 09:46:07

Happy new year everyone! Spent mine feeding J while dh tried to scare him talk to us through the monitor.

dinkystinky Wed 01-Jan-14 19:53:49

Happy new year all - MarieKL if you PM me your name and photo on FB I'll pass it on to one of the tech savvy MNer admin bods on FB to add you (apparently I have admin rights but no bloody idea what to do to add you as I'm a luddite).

Abzs - J sounds like he was too excited by the new year to sleep.

MarieKL Wed 01-Jan-14 22:45:11

Happy New Year Everyone.

Thanks Dinkystinky. I've PM'd you.

Abzs - was J scared? My DS1 was quite bemused by DC2s monitor but can't work out how to talk through it yet, though that's probably just as well!

Abzs Thu 02-Jan-14 00:13:07

Perhaps not scared, more startled; he did the wide-eyed star jump but no crying to accompany it.

This evening he rolled over and woke himself up right at the critical point of Sherlock.

dinkystinky Thu 02-Jan-14 09:02:03

Marie - have sent you friends req on fb ( initials MS and PIC a photo of me and j looking at the camera) - accept it and I'll muddle on from there.

ThisTimeItsPersonal Tue 14-Jan-14 10:06:20

Wow I really haven't kept up at all on here sorry guys! Is everyone over on fb or are there people that are still just on here? smile

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Tue 14-Jan-14 12:29:46

I think we're all on FB now. Everyone who isn't seems to have given up.

ThisTimeItsPersonal Wed 15-Jan-14 09:24:35

Oh I feel quite bad now! Even if I don't post I'm on here all the time so if anyone hasn't joined fb and wants too or just wants to ask a question pm me smile

Silver15 Wed 15-Jan-14 17:34:27

I'm also still here. Not on Facebook. Hope you are all well.

Abzs Wed 15-Jan-14 18:59:54

How are you doing Silver? And anyone else here? Do keep talking, I try to check in here as well as on fb.

J is trying to injure himself in as many ways as possible I think. Drew blood face planting a toy last night, has nearly wriggled out of his sling in town, got under the sofa and this evening head butted a wall when rolling over (that was my fault - put the changing mat too close).

We're also having a sleep regression/disturbance phase. Is it a trade off for learning to eat, sit and crawl all at once?

Silver15 Thu 16-Jan-14 14:10:09

Hello Abzs, Hope J is well today considering that he had an eventfull day yesterday.

My J is not sleeping as well. He is learning to sit too and the eating is now established. I'm going back to work next month so needed this to be established before then. Is anyone else going back to work soon?

Cheeseandbread Thu 16-Jan-14 21:14:13

Hey abzs ans silver I'm still here and not on the fb group yet. I had a long quiet spell and have tried to catch up recently.

Abzs your J sounds like he is up to everything!

My J like your Js has not been sleeping well and hot into a 10, 12, 2, 4 up from 6 pattern so we've been doing a bit of controlled crying this week (DH had to phisically restrain me...) it seems to be working though.

ThisTimeItsPersonal Fri 17-Jan-14 09:38:06

Is anybody's baby still napping loads? Alice gets up for the day at 7,goes for an hour nap around 9 another hour about 12 and another at 2, then up til bedtime at 7. The last three hours is the longest she's ever awake

Silver15 Sat 18-Jan-14 05:33:03

J naps during the day; mostly in the mornings as he is awake few times in the night. For instance he has been up since 4:30 and no sign of going back soon.

Silver15 Sat 18-Jan-14 05:36:20

Cheese, sorry to hear you are having the same sort of hard time as me. Hope this phase will pass soon.

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Sat 18-Jan-14 09:00:55

Cheese - there's a lot of us on FB with similar/worse night time sleep patterns!

Struggling with naps at the m

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Sat 18-Jan-14 09:02:06

onent. She used to self settle without a fuss, but she seems to have changed her mind...

dinkystinky Tue 21-Jan-14 19:29:49

Hi all - hope you are all ok and surviving lack of sleep. I've been enduring never ending bottle battle with my j - aka the most stubborn baby in the universe (which he WILL rule one day) - in readiness to go back to work on Monday (which I'm dreading but hey, needs must).j now has one tooth cut and is changing sleep patterns (nano nap in the morning and 2 hours at lunchtime). He loves sitting up at the table with his big brothers at meal times - today he had houmous (which he loved), chicken drumstick, cucumber and plain pancake strips for dinner. He has a more varied diet than me already!

Abzs - your j sounds like my ds2. Hes quite bright now so all those mishaps didnt do any lasting damage if that helps any...

Abzs Tue 21-Jan-14 20:31:34

This week J has really got into food. He's started complaining when I have some and he doesn't, and when it's finished and much more is going in. Houmous was a hit here too! Not sure dh was impressed that he had to share it...

J is still banging his head off everything he can find. He hasn't figured out that he needs to go around obstacles. He seems quite hardy.

Nap-wise he has about 45-60 mins per 3.5hour cycle of eat/play/sleep, so two or three a day depending on how early (or late) we get up and go to bed.

dinkystinky Tue 21-Jan-14 22:00:52

Abzs - ds2 bangs his head at least twice daily still! They get inured to it!!

Silver15 Tue 21-Jan-14 22:24:17

I haven't tried humous yet but will do. J likes mashed potato with chicken. Risotto is also famous. He has settled into a pattern of meals with porridge at around 10am, yoghurt and fruit for lunch and supper at arround 8pm. He is still breastfeeding as well and this is on demand. He has however refused the bottle but I'm still trying.

Trenzalor Sun 02-Feb-14 19:15:26

Just popped on to say hello to anyone not on FB. Name changed from Runswithsquirrels x

BB01 Mon 03-Feb-14 15:17:49

Just checking in after a long absence! Nice to see this group all still going even though most people have migrated to fbook. There are indeed plenty of us on fbook struggling with sleep!

dinkystinky Tue 04-Feb-14 12:03:22

<Quick dust off of the tumbleweed>

Hello - anyone out there? Hope all is well with our July babies - J turns 7 months in 3 days and is a delight, though very very very very stubborn. He has decided since I returned to work last week to refuse milk in any vessel (bottle, doidy cup, mini cup, sippy cup) other than directly from the boob which is proving rather tiresome for all concerned. Am hoping its linked to teething as a tooth sprouted at the start of last week and I think I can see another one on its way through. Suspect bottle battle mark 3 is looming...

Abzs Tue 04-Feb-14 17:41:37

We're here! 7 months and 2 days. J is a Smiley little charmer, except when he'd rather stay up and play than go to bed.

He's growing again and is wearing clothes from 3-6 to 12-18 depending on item and brand!

Food is starting to go in, instead of just being spread about. Or rather, as well as being spread about. No sign of any teeth though.

BB01 Tue 04-Feb-14 22:13:28

Sizes vary so much don't they Abzs!

BadMissM Thu 13-Feb-14 17:30:39

Afraid we all got very lazy, lurking on FB!!! Took me ages to track this one down even!!! Caspian 7 months and three days today...still considering food, and crawling. Rolls, but then gets stuck!

Abzs Sat 01-Mar-14 23:27:27


Happy St David's day!

Abzs Sat 01-Mar-14 23:29:12

Eight months tomorrow. EIGHT months. Not sure how that happened...

photographerlady Thu 20-Mar-14 19:19:11

Hi ladies! Sorry FB lurker too. Actually haven't been on MN in fear I'm doing it all wrong lol

Tilly eight months on the 25th. Crawling, standing holding on to everything, falling loads. She's passed out on me at the moment so figured logging in now was a good time.

Last three weeks has been rough. Colds, tummy bugs, teething, wanting mummy all the time but it's all still amazing finally being a mum.

Supershiv1 Sat 24-May-14 22:33:38

Wooooo hooo! Bumping up the July 2013 thread for the 10 month olds (and 13.5 month olds) xxx

dinkystinky Mon 02-Jun-14 16:51:53

Bumping this thread as the early arrival birthdays are starting to arrive thick and fast - and it would be lovely to see anyone who has stayed on MN on here as a first birthday catch up.

J is adorable - he has 2 (and a half) teeth, a dimple in one cheek and a sweet nature. He is pretty cautious and not into crawling (wants to do it but goes backwards and gets stuck under the sofa) but still loves his jumperoo and bashing the hell out of any toys (age appropriate or not) that come anywhere near him. His two big brothers adore him (DS1 even deigns to read to him occasionally - the highest accolade) and we couldn't imagine life without him (or our regular 5.30 starts)... His reflux has totally gone and he loves fruit and veg, likes some fish, not much of a fan of meat. And still wont take a blinking bottle.

Abzs Thu 12-Jun-14 17:00:55

Checking in and bumping the thread as we hit birthday time.

Anyone still here? Cheese, Silver, Vinegar, Thinking? How are you all?

dinkystinky Mon 16-Jun-14 15:45:26

Bump bump for anyone lurking out there in the run up to July...

Silver15 Wed 23-Jul-14 21:51:08

Hello Abzs and Dinky.

Happy birthday to all our babies.

dinkystinky Thu 24-Jul-14 11:56:57

Hi Silver - nice to see you on! How are you and your little (well not so little now!) one getting on?

dinkystinky Thu 24-Jul-14 11:57:34

PS - if you want to join the FB group (where most people disappeared off to) PM me and will try and sort it

Silver15 Fri 25-Jul-14 17:49:58

Thanks Dinky. J is such a big boy now (off the scales). He refused the bottle though and im almost giving up and I have started using a cup for water. He is now walking properly. How is your J?

Yes I miss all the ladies but I'm not on facebook. Maybe I need to join. Miss all the chat we used to have. Send my regards to all and remind them to pop in to say hello.

dinkystinky Fri 25-Jul-14 19:51:58

Maybe its something to do with the initial J... Jackson was a reluctant bottle feeder and decided to go on bottle strike entirely the week I went back to work in January - it was not a fun time! But on the plus side, his eating of solids went up, his reflux disappeared, and he is now proficient at drinking from a sippy cup (as your J will be too in no time at all) and will take some formula from a cup if I'm not around so he knows theres no chance of the straight from the source stuff.Well done to your J on walking and well done to you on bfing such a big little one for so long!

My J snt walking yet - he is a v lazy wee lad who only started crawling at 11 months, but is pulling up to stand all the time (mostly so he can use the nearest person's upper thigh as a teething toy - its like having a puppy in the house!) and very cute.

He makes us all laugh lots and lots. He is much more mobile in water than land (which is handy as his baby speak sounds rather like a dolphin) - am hoping he's the next Michael Phelps (his feet are big enough!) so DH and I can retire early...

You could join FB and just come post in our group which is a closed group if you feel like it - but will tell all the others you say hi and point them in this direction to say hi back

BB01 Fri 25-Jul-14 20:32:58

Hi Silver and anyone else!! Come to Facebook Silver!!! I'm afraid we must just all find it easier to post on there. It's a pretty active group. R is now walking, not talking so much and I've finally stopped boring the fbook group with daily pity-me posts about her terrible sleep as it has finally improved!

Supershiv1 Fri 25-Jul-14 20:46:51

This is really confusing not seeing your faces next to your posts.
Silver, you could always do a dummy fb profile if you don't want us to know who you are. Just let Dimly win just in my links know x

What happened there????? That should be dinkystinky!!!!

RaspberryLemonade Fri 25-Jul-14 20:59:07

Name changed since being on this group!
Alice is one tomorrow! Crazy times... How is everyone? It really is strange trying to remember who is who :D

Abzs Fri 25-Jul-14 20:59:54

Hello Silver! Glad to hear your J is doing well. My J is too.

He isn't so big as your J though, but still on 91st centile I think. I've booked him in to get weighed next week out of interest (and as he hasn't been since January).

The letting go with both hands is coming on apace and can now be done deliberately, but still not for long - 10 seconds is his personal best so far. Independent walking seems a fair way off, he would rather crawl as he gets there faster than waiting for me to hold his hand.

I will try to remember to pop in here and say hello more often.

dinkystinky Fri 25-Jul-14 21:14:07

Have you been on the gin Shiv? Surely you should be in training for your dash for cash with paint splatter pebble dash

dinkystinky Fri 25-Jul-14 21:15:35

Though rather taken with dimly win just in my links as a poss new name....

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer Fri 25-Jul-14 21:44:24

Hi Silver! (Really want to say hi ho silver!)

<snort> at dimly win

elliejjtiny Sat 26-Jul-14 01:43:27

Hello everyone, haven't been on here since the fb group started. E (DS4) is 13 months now and doing ok, got his next operation next month. Also got Z (DS5) who is 6 weeks old and the cause of me being up at this mad hour.

Supershiv1 Fri 22-Aug-14 15:37:22

Hello! Look you can post pictures now! This is for Silver and Vinegar and anyone else not on FB group x

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