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October 2011 - we can hardly believe its true, our babies are turning two!!

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MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 21-Sep-13 11:37:42


Hope you don't mind me starting a new thread as once again, birthday season has begun and the first of our October babies are turning 2! Would be lovely to hear from everyone past and present smile
Ill try copy over all the stats again when I'm next on the laptop.

Hope everyone is well smile

IBelieveInEngels Sat 21-Sep-13 14:45:33

New thread, new name smile

Thanks Duck

Just over 3 weeks till DS turns 2. He'll be in nursery on the day itself, though it's half term week for me so will be able to go out as a family later in the week on DH's day off.

TallyBearRIP Sat 21-Sep-13 17:16:01

Marking my space!

Went to a NNS this morning. Got Seb a keyboard. Best £4 spent for ages. I'm sure I'll get fed up with it before he does! grin

Can't believe this time two years ago I was going on Maternity leave....

Good idea duck smile just signing in

MrsHende Sat 21-Sep-13 20:06:19

Great idea mummyduck!

Can't believe our wee bambinos are turning two!

PenelopeLane Sat 21-Sep-13 23:20:25

Good idea re new thread! Just signing in too

Good idea Duck!

Happy birthday A and E

IBelieveInEngels Mon 23-Sep-13 09:46:38

DS has green snot streaming from hisnose - first cold of the season. I cannot take another winter of bugs like last year (I had 5 bouts of flu, all courtesy of DS!). Tell me it won't be as bad this year! Last year was first year in nursery so am hoping it will be better this year.

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I hope it will be better this year eng it's the second nursery winter for them so they must have a better immunity to nursery bugs (please please please) W has the sniffles at the moment too though!

Trudyla Mon 23-Sep-13 12:35:11

Hello all

I thought I'd make an appearance again. I was on the antenatal board and early on on the post natal, but then somehow stopped posting. New thread has inspired me to start again.

As a reminder of who I am: I was one of the last ones on the thread to give birth and had my little boy F on 7th November. I also have a girl M who is 3.

Me, DP and kids live in Germany but used to live in the UK. DP is English.

All okay here. Both kids in nursery now and have been since April for 6 hours a day. I'm really enjoying doing some work (working from home).

I am also terrified of another winter of bugs. Mine haven't even been in nursery in winter but have been constantly sick pretty much from October last year till May. Please, don't tell me it will get worse. <wails>

Anyway, just thought I would pop back in and will try and keep up better this time.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 23-Sep-13 15:24:03

Hi trudyla! Good to hear all well with your family!

Engels, I'm sure you won't get it as bad this year fingers crossed!! S cold seems to be finally going. I think a lot of it was to do with the sudden drop in temp. Went from warm to freezing overnight shock. S party this Sunday and I've heard it's to be warm so I'm crossing everything!!

Spent this morning baking birthday cake. Cheated a little this year and bought pre made mix blush. It's out to cool then into freezer till Saturday when ill take it out, cut and decorate for Sunday. Feeling organised, got my little list of all the jobs that need doing through the week.

S said 'I love you mummy' for the first time unprompted this morning. I swear my heart melted smile

AwkwardAnnie Mon 23-Sep-13 22:13:24

Hi All, I've also been inspired to rejoin the thread thanks to the FB post. I was bilbli0 with little boy S and his big sister B. I'm the one with the unusual real name on FB too.

We've got 3 weeks to go till birthday season. DH's birthday is just after too. We've just got an appointment for DD to have 6 teeth taken out 3 days before S's birthday. 4 rotten molars, and 2 wobbly teeth which need to come out at the same time for safety. I'm mortified. I've not got any fillings. I feel like such a terrible mother. At least they're baby teeth.

S is doing well, he's a ridiculously happy pleasant boy most of the time. In the past couple of months he seems to have finally got the gist of sleeping. He sleeps through more often than not now (although he woke at 5:30 this morning), and he'll usually go to bed at a reasonable hour, but if he has even 10 minutes sleep during the day he'll not sleep. We stopped letting him have daytime naps at about 16months. I'm still feeding him to sleep at night. He'll take himself up to bed when he's tired, he just hasn't learnt to fall asleep without boob or complete exhaustion... one day....

What are people getting for birthday presents? I'm completely stumped. Someone gave him some megablocks recently which he loves, so I've seen a big truck which stores them too. I'm pondering a balance bike but we've 2 trikes already and very limited space outside.

Hi Trudyla and Anniegrin

(I was previously Little Pebble)

Engels I had exactly the same thought the other day, last winter was so bad for E constantly ill am praying he'll have a better immune system this time round.

Annie I've ordered pirate ship and castle for E from smyths toys waiting for it to arrive.

Mummy that is adorable can't wait until E can tell me how much he loves me not needy at all

I need to figure out a way of E sleeping through again he's started waking in night and crying until I go in, find dummy and lie him flat again. It's at least once every night sometimes 2-3 times. Not sure if the answer is lots of dummies in cot or to try and get rid of dummy.... Anyone any ideas?

Trudyla Tue 24-Sep-13 08:21:04

Thanks for having me back!

duck Ahhh, so envy that she said that. You must be over the moon. Well done for being so organised for her birthday!

Annie So far I've got little bits and pieces for his birthday. Like a jigsaw puzzle of a tractor, two tractor books, wall stickers with farm stuff (including tractrors, notice a theme?) and I will try and make tractor bunting for his room. I also got him a little wooden work bench with tools and I'm researching how to make tractor cakes. I don't think he's gonna get that much more though. He loves tractors and books and will be very happy with these pressies, I think.

Killa I'm sure the right answer is to get rid of the dummy, but what works for us at the moment is loads of dummies in his cot, some of them glow in the dark ones...

Have a good day all smile

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 24-Sep-13 10:54:10

Killa - s was starting to wake a lot and having a meltdown when she couldn't find her dummy. Since we got rid, if she does wake, its only for seconds and she's put herself back to sleep again as she isn't looking for a dummy again. It honestly wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.. She had one really awful first day without but adapted really quick.

EdwardorEricCantDecide Tue 24-Sep-13 19:34:52

Hi everyone
Sorry I've been away so long.
Update on us... Mhairi will be 2 in just over a month (she was one of the last to be born I think)
She seems to be picking up new words all the time now, despite being late to start talking.
Christopher is now 4 so will be going to school next year shock
The kids are on the whole getting on well together and can be so cute when playing together, although they do have their moments.
Re birthday presents mhairi has a doc mcstuffins theme to her birthday this year so she has the doctors bag and dress up costume and I also got her a dolls pram.
duck I'm so jealous can't wait till Mhairi can say she loves me smile

That's very cute duck grin

I would probably go for the lots of dummies option killa but we've just (pretty painlessly) stopped daytime dummies by saying they are for sleep only so will probably let W self stop them at night. tbh I think he's half there anyway he often doesn't have one in when he wakes up, does sometimes wake up looking for it though.

Hey ed glad things are ok. I think M's birthday is close to W's he's the 27th Oct. it's amazing how they seem to be picking up new words every day isn't it!

PenelopeLane Wed 25-Sep-13 01:29:08

Nice to see all you ladies back! smile

We have some cars and a puzzle for A, and some duplo which will either be his birthday or Christmas present depending on how much he gets from the grandparents! He's 2 on the 6th, so just a little over a week. It's come around quickly! My sister who's really good with cakes has agreed to make him one this year, as I am so pregnant and tired at the moment the thought wears me out, and he loves cake so really don't want him to miss out.

I'm 39 weeks tomorrow and feeling very very crampy and tired today, so am of course wondering "is this it?" knowing that this discomfort could last a while or that I might feel great tomorrow again! I have really enjoyed my maternity leave so far though (have been off work over a month), especially all the extra time I've had with A.

CheshireDing Wed 25-Sep-13 01:50:36

Hi everyone.

I am heavy and hot and have a breech baby sad (not exactly ideal for hb), our house has been flooded by the boiler down all 3 storeys. On a plus we are getting a new boiler, new ceiling, decorating and carpets on the insurance, on a negative I am sick of a destroyed house and nowhere to lie on the floor to try and practice baby turning positions and P called me a wierdo on Saturday grin

Good luck Pene for DD turning up soon smile

Wonder how Ips is doing with her No2 ?

P has the Night Garden gang for her Birthday, some pens which you use in the bath/on yourself/tiles etc, an owl hat and a jigsaw clock. I highly recommend The Big Night Night Book for anyone looking for books too - she has had it for ages but it's still one of her favourites.

Engels hope your DH is feeling a bit better recently.

Sorry for everything else I have missed out on sad

PenelopeLane Wed 25-Sep-13 09:39:32

How far are you along now Cheshire? I had a breach baby too but she turned just before 35 weeks. But grin to P calling you a weirdo!

That sounds like a nightmare chesh hope house is fixed up for you soon and fx that baby turns for you!

W has stopped stammering now it only lasted about a week (just long enough to panic me) I think it coincided with a big language explosion he's chattering away all the time now with new words every day it seems.
He made me smile yesterday when he was trying to sing with 'row row row, polar bear, brrrr' which as his version of the row your boat verse with the polar bear. Was very cute.

TallulahPumpkin Thu 26-Sep-13 16:22:26

Hi All. Slight name change here but I think you should be able to work out who I am!

Welcome back Trudy, Annie and Ed.

I hear you about not wanting too many colds this year but this household is not off to a good start. Seb has had a cold/snotty nose for a while and then had a virus this week which he passed to all of us. Well I guess we do encourage him to share! I spent Monday clearing up sick. sad

I would also love to get rid of the dummy. He mainly only has it to sleep or if he's ill but it sometimes does sneak in at other times. We've got some Mam glow in the dark ones for night time. Sometimes they glow and sometimes they've run out of juice. A bit random but OK.

So far only got a few books (NNS but good condition) for his birthday: a set of Amazing Machines books and two with magnets; one 'things that go' (he's got a little version which he loves) and a farm one. Might get him an easel so he can colour easier. We've got a chalk board in the kitchen which he loves drawing on but means one of us has to hold him up and (being a short-arse) I can't do that for long! He loves his crayons too. Not sure what else. He has so many toys already.

Pen good luck - any day now...hang in there.

Chesh oh no. Still, at least it was now and not with a new baby.
I like the idea of that book, might see if I can get that too.

Straw Aw, how cute. Seb's favourite is Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. Mum pulled out a really old Fisher Price toy record player and one of the records was Twinkle and he kept putting it on saying 'Twingle tar' and flashing his hands. He's got the diamond shape with his fingers down pat! grin. We were all singing and miming along with it except my dad so he kept saying 'Da-dad (grandad) twingle'

CheshireDing Thu 26-Sep-13 21:41:27

31 weeks now Pene, did you do anything to help her turn? this one is making no attempts sad I worry the longer it stays in this position the less likely it is. I was freaking out before about everything stopping again right at the end, now I have something new to freak out about that never even crossed my mind before grin

Ha ha just long enough to scare you Strawbs smile Has he gone from stammering to full sentences with a BBC accent now ! grin

Tallulah I always find it so funny when I think about the daft things we do as Parents now, it is probably 30 years or something since I had to sing Twinkle Twinkle and now I have to make pig and sheep noises and sing random songs grin. I think the author is Georgie Birkett (from memory), fab little book. What about painting a blackboard on a patch of S's bedroom wall at his height then you don't have to hold him up ? P has a magnetic patch on her wall for her alphabet letters.

What cakes are people planning for Birthday's ? I expect pictures on fb of the finished products !

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 26-Sep-13 22:43:32

That's a great idea about magnetic paint... Where did you get the magnet alphabet letters? I've been looking but not found any.

Great about the talking strawb. I'm honestly shock at the things S is saying daily now. Today she was telling me about how she has a little sister blushconfused who wears a pretty dress with a flower on it. No idea where she's gets it from! She was in her room drawing the other night while I was putting washing away. She came out with her paper to show me and I asked her what it was. She said it was a house and then told me that a 'little girl and her mummy live there but no man' shock. Wonder if it was a self portrait of us haha!

I've just wrapped all her gifts up. Mickey Mouse club house and the figures to go. Ben and Holly DVD (I'm getting sick of peppa pig!) and a baby doll smile

I baked her cake on Monday, so will take out freezer on Saturday morning to decorate that night. My plan this year is a number 2 covered in smarties (spotty theme for this birthday party). Can't wait!!

TallulahPumpkin Fri 27-Sep-13 19:41:29

Oo, good idea. I think we've got some magnetic letters about somewhere that we used to have on the fridge.

Mummy I can't get over how articulate S is already.

The funniest thing happened this evening. I was as usual struggling to get a wriggly Seb in his sleeping bag. I said, if I don't put this on you'll get cold'. He suddenly stopped and looked really alarmed. I then said 'stand up so I can put it on' and he did! Sometimes I think he has moments of clear understanding. Other times he is so absorbed in what he's doing he bearly hears me typical man.

I do need some advice though girls. Seb is becoming a real biter. Usually on our shoulder when we holding him. It really hurts as his teeth are so sharp. We've tried firm telling off, explaining that it hurts and asking to say sorry, quick tell off and then praising good behaviour/giving positive attention. Nothing is working. At CM today he was hitting and biting and they put him in time out and made him apologise with a hug and by the afternoon it seemed to have worked but it is hard to put him in time out when there is only him or it's bedtime. Any thoughts?

Sorry chesh you will be unlikely to get a photo of any cake I've made! (or rather, there is unlikely to be a cake!)

Tallulah W was a biter of a while we went with an escalating approach, first a firm no and saying we would put him down/stop playing etc then if he did it again we would follow through and explain that it wasn't kind to bite. And get him to hug after wards. It didn't last too long and he only does it very occasionally now.

I promise pictures of W's cake on FB no matter how awful it looks grin I'm planning on doing an In the night garden one. I've got plastic figures though, no way am I attempting to make them!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 28-Sep-13 08:32:17

I started typing this last night then S woke and I forgot confused

Not much to offer on biting, I don't think S has ever tried! We did have a few kids at nursery who would bite a lot. Only thing that worked with one girl was that her dad bit her back!! Not sure if you want to go down that route but it worked, she didn't try it again after that. I think she realised how sore it was (not that he done it hard!). I think it's got a lot to do with communication etc, age related in that they are still unable to express themselves they way they want to. I'm sure most kids grow out if it by 2 1/2 - 3.

Its been a long night with S only having 5 hrs of sleep blushsad. I'm helping a friend out at an event today so she's spending it with my mum. I've text her to warn of that she may be dealing with a grumpy girl all day wink

PenelopeLane Sun 29-Sep-13 01:06:26

We've had an on and off issue with biting, but it's been helped (although prob not the right word!) by the fact A has since been bitten a few times by another boy in creche so now he knows how it feels, so now when he does it, we are able to talk about how much it hurts.

Cheshire No I didn't do anything to turn her, it just happened one night - and was quite sore too! Any luck yet?

I had a baby as well smile Last Friday, a week early. We've called her Lily as well (it's not half as popular here as in the UK) and she's gorgeous. Today is my first day when I feel like the fog has cleared, although am still tired.

It was such a positive birth experience in the end, especially after all the interventions and surgery and tearing etc I had with A - in fact giving birth to Lily makes me reflect a little differently on A's birth and makes me realise how hard that one was! This time round though I woke up at 2am sore, labour established itself about 4.15, arrived at hospital at 5.45 (MW wanted me right there just in case it was another fast labour), she was born at 8.45 and I was discharged at midday! It was nice to come home so soon. So, a longer labour than A's, but much much better.

A's OK - the only things that seem to upset him so far are me changing her nappies, and if her crying interrupts me reading to him.

CheshireDing Sun 29-Sep-13 06:44:32

Aww congratulations Pene, this sounds like a lovely birth. Lily is a beautiful name too, does she have a middle name? Sending some cake and thanks. So you have a September baby now too grin

Paint was from B&Q and the letters from Amazon Mummy, you had to put lots of paint layers on though to make it more magnetic and the letters had to be very light ones - we bought small foam ones.

Sorry no biting suggestions, time out is good but not so easy at bedtime !

Congratulations pen Lily is a lovely name smile

IBelieveInEngels Sun 29-Sep-13 09:55:33

Morning all!

Sorry for going AWOL this week. My DM and DF have been over from the UK so have been juggling them and work.

Hi trudy - I wonder if you're anywhere near me? I'm in the Netherlands and fairly close to the border.

Have a great party today duck - happy birthday to S! Wow at "I love you"! M is still mostly single words, though managed "I see you" after a lot of hide and seek!

Annie* we have some track for DS for his v-tech traffic light thing and another car to go on it. I already have loads of small bits for Christmas as well (toddler umbrella, craft stuff like coloured paper, a sticker book, story book, hand puppet). Will probably also get him some new wellies for birthday as his are 4 sizes too small! Tallulah DS has so many toys as well. Trying to focus on books, crafty stuff, practical things, clothes and outside stuff if people ask what to get him.

We're having friends and family over at the weekend before his birthday, and a few days later DH and I have a day off so we'll head to the zoo.

killa how's the sleeping goiing? We only used dummy a bit when DS was very young so not sure what to suggest. When DS was still occasionally waking in the night we got to the stage where we would ignore him unless he was awake for more than 20 mins. DS seems to have adjusted well to the side off his cot, but still in sleeping bag. Should move over to duvet soon, but am holding back. He still seems so small!

Hi ed! Btw, you put DC's full names in your post..not sure if you meant to. Hope things are good with DH?

DH has been up and down chesh., but a bit more up recently. Thanks for asking. Sorry to hear about your house/boiler. What a nightmare.

DS bit me a few times a couple of months ago. I bit him back and he hasn't done it since.

Last year I just bought a cake. This year was thinking of a square chocolate sponge with chocolate frosting, ridged so it looks like a field with a tractor on top! Hmmm....we'll see!

Huge congratulations pen !

I'm still on 2ww, though cheated and didxa pg test last night which was negative. Will wait and see if AF gets me before testing again.

TallulahPumpkin Sun 29-Sep-13 13:40:30

Congratulations Pene, you snuck that in there! Lovely name, fb pics?. So glad the experience was a good one. Did she come with a present for A? I believe I brought my big brother a truck when I was born, lol. Softens the blow a bit.

Pen/Mummy we did think about biting him but not sure if social services would come knocking. It's probably frowned upon. grin Think will try more time out if it's at play time. hmm.

We went to Peppa Pig World yesterday. Some friends were taking their daughter for her fourth birthday so we met up. It started off rainy and crowded but we ended up having a really good day. He 'met' George and Peppa (so sweet, he kept saying 'hu-lo Bebba, hu-lo dorge') and loved the 'bot' (translation: boat) ride and the train. He hated waiting in the queues! When he was napping we popped into the shop (fully of toddlers having tantrums) and got some stuff for his birthday: a mini book library, plastic mug and a soft George toy with his dinosaur. Honestly, the things you can buy there! It's not cheap but quite good, especially for older kids (as long as they're under a metre = free). Dh enjoyed the water slide grin.

Congratulations Pen! thanksthanks Lily is a beautiful name. Xx

IBelieveInEngels Mon 30-Sep-13 12:14:01

Okay, trying duvet instead of sleeping bag. He went in fine, complained a bit when I shut the door and now everything seems to be quiet up there!

Now having birthday cake angst - last year I just ordered a cream cake and made an apple pie. Now seeing all these lovely cakes is making me want to try something different. I remember seeing pictures of a cake my mum had made for my brother - a train made with swiss rolls (which they don't sell here in Holland) and accessorized with playmobile figures and Liquorice Allsorts (which are called English Liquorice here!).

Still, have 2 weeks to think about it!

MrsHende Mon 30-Sep-13 19:02:56

Congratulations Pene! Delighted for you that Lily is here safely!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 02-Oct-13 09:30:52

Huge congratulations pen!! Glad it a worked out and you didn't need to spend time in hospital over A's birthday!!! thanks

Just a quick post as I wanted to ask if anyone is having wake ups around midnight that's then resulting in a total meltdown? S has had a few but last night I snapped at her as she had been screaming for an hr! I was firm in just putting her back to bed with no talking, then she asked for a drink which I got her etc. in the end she fell asleep on the floor! I lifted her back into bed but it just started the screaming again. I figured out it was the duvet she didn't want so I covered her with a blanket but I knew there was no way it would keep her warm. Sure enough she was in my bed at 4am but thankfully did go back to sleep for a few more hours!!!

I'm just wondering as its always around the same time. I thought at first I was disturbing her when I was getting ready for bed (bathroom is right next to her room) and i tend not to go to bed till 11/11.30pm which was when she was waking. But last night I was in bed early so I know it wasn't me.

I'm thinking today I might try no nap again as yesterday she was up at 7am, didn't nap till 2-3pm then eventually fell asleep some time around 9pm despite being in bed at 7.45pm. I'm hoping if she can go without nap then I can get her back to a 7/7.30pm bedtime.

Anyone relate?

CheshireDing Wed 02-Oct-13 13:50:22

Ha ha love the fact you bit M back and he stopped then Engels grin
The swiss roll train sounds good, will you have to make the swiss roll then too? Sounds like effort !

Mummy we have had a couple of night wakings again recently of screaming, I think it has been nightmares and I think she might be going through a growth/developmental phase as she is eating loads and wanting to sleep more. She was screaming about spiders the other night (even though she picked one up and stuffed it in my face unannounced last weekend !) and I had to pretend not to be shocked.

Mummy boast - P can count to 10 and said "Love you Mummy" whilst on the potty. It was an emotional moment all round grin

IBelieveInEngels Wed 02-Oct-13 17:15:31

It sounds like way too much effort chesh! Think I'll stick with cream cake!

Exciting news here. Poas yesterday and today and have a faint line. Feeling queasy today as well. Waiting till the weekend to test again!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 02-Oct-13 20:09:50

Oooh, fingers crossed for you!! grin

TallulahPumpkin Wed 02-Oct-13 20:34:31

Engles, sounds hopeful.... fingers crossed.

Mummy we've had a few hysterical nights too. Friday night was awful and he seemed genuinely scared. Whimpering and everything, it was awful. I presumed it was night-terrors.

Chesh - Go P!
Seb can count to 14 he does miss out a few numbers though! 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 5, 7, 14 grin.

Ooh Engels fingers crossed!

Duck I can relate! E has been waking up a lot in the night at similar times and so struggles to nap in the day. I'm waiting to see if a duvet and pillow helps at all. If not am contemplating losing the dummy...confused

Well done P and S on counting. E can count to two!

Anyone else got lots of imaginary play going on? We've got trips to the shop to buy fruit and sausages and a shark and a monkey in the house that we have to throw out the front door as they're naughty...blush

IBelieveInEngels Fri 04-Oct-13 10:24:50

M can count to 3 because when he's grabbed something he shouldn't I count to 3 and now he mimics me and adds "NOW!" in for good measure grin

Still looking good here. Waiting till tomorrow to test again, but I have a good feeling about this smile

DS has horrid cough atm, poor little thing.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Fri 04-Oct-13 10:34:34

Oh engels that's sounding promising!!!

not making me feel broody at all, nope!

Sounds hopeful eng fx for you

W is still not great at numbers his counting usually consists of pointing and saying 'two, two, two, two, TWO' with great emphasis on the last 'two'!

AwkwardAnnie Fri 04-Oct-13 23:01:44

Ooh exciting Eng

Mummy we have lots of screaming abdabs in the night, but it's not at a regular time anymore. We had 3 nights last week of all out inconsolable tantruming for about 15 minutes last week, at at around 3am... although after the 3rd night I decided they were night terrors because he's never like that in the day and when I tried to calm him down he just got worse. Each night he fell asleep laid on the back of the settee (we have a chesterfield) and I managed to get him back in his cot.
Could it be something like the heating switching on/off? Does it get cold? Neighbours making a noise?

I've decided on an In the night garden cake this time. He Loves Makka Pakka. I've bought a set of small plastic figures (I'd love to have made them, but I can't be bothered mixing all the colours) I'll just ice the cake. I've also got some rice papers circles to put on buns and biscuits. S's birthday is a week on Monday and DD is having her 6 teeth out on the Friday so S will be away for a couple of days while DD recovers, and I'll have chance to bake.

S is away at Mum's at the moment. DH is having CBT at the moment. It's going well but dredging a lot of stuff up so he had a bit of a meltdown yesterday. We decided it would be best for S to go to my Mum's while DH gets his head together. DD and I are going over there in the morning too.

I'm looking into sending S to nursery one day a week for the day after DH has had his CBT. I don't particularly like the idea, but he's so sociable that I think he'll love it. DD was incredibly shy, so even when she started at 3 she didn't speak to anyone for almost the whole year... and I mean anyone. If it helps DH too then it's good. I didn't realise how expensive they are though!!!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Fri 04-Oct-13 23:39:02

Annie - glad things are looking good for dh. I hope it continues. Cake sounds great! I cheated this year and used sponge mix.. Tasted just as good grin

Usually I put her into bed and walk out closing the door. Ill go in to check on her before I go to bed around 11.30pm. Her door is quite noisy when I'm opening it so I'm thinking that its disturbing her just enough to waken. Last night was better although she woke crying at 3am cause her duvet was twisted on her feet.. confused. Her room isn't near boiler which is only coming on in the morning around 6.45am when she's usually up anyway. Through the wall from her is neighbours bathroom but they both work full time and have young dd so I doubt are making much noise. I'm putting it down to squeaky door and night terrors!

I'm off for an interview for commonwealth games volunteer tomorrow grin. Pretty random as I filled out the form so last minute the night it was due so didn't think I had a high hope! Not really sure what to expect!

I'm doing the same thing for W's cake annie grin W is a Makka Pakka fan too!

We've only had a couple of screamy nights so far duck I think they were bad dreams.

TallulahPumpkin Sat 05-Oct-13 22:14:30

Dm has offered to try to make a '2' cake this year (Mummy did you get a mould?) or I might just buy a Peppa Pig one in Asda!

Killa that is one imaginative LO, lol!

Engles anything?

Yesterday we put down a deposit for flights to New Zealand! Argh, are we mad going with a toddler (don't answer that!) Outbound trip via Hong Kong for 2 nights. Back via HK but only a 4 hour stopover (figure we'd make Seb run about for 4 hours to wear him out!). 3 weeks in total. Looking into Campervans for when we are out there. We've only got 16 days in NZ and a wedding in the middle so will prob stay on the north island. Pene is it you in NZ? (sorry, I lose track). Whereabouts are you?

IBelieveInEngels Sun 06-Oct-13 07:20:42

Retested Friday and a very obvious line so as long as it sticks 5w 2mrw! Obviously early days but grin

How exciting about nz Tallulah ! We flew through HK on tge way there but were delayed jn Ams so didn't do more than run to the transfer desk then run to the gate. Who are you flying with?
You are not mad! I am very jealous envy

Ended up taking M to out of hours gp yesterday as he was running temp of 40.5. Of course the little blighter perked upand was running round like a loon by the time we got there. Still has a temp of 39, 1 this morning but perkier.

MrsHende Sun 06-Oct-13 08:04:56


I've been up since 2.45AM with L, she dozed on me till 4.30am then was up for the day with bigs shouts of "C'mon Mummy!". I've been singing, dancing, feeding, playing since then. I just woke up DH to look after her while I had a shower, 5 minutes later, I'm out of the shower and she's FAST ASLEEP on daddy's shoulder.

I could cry.

And DH is off to work in 30mins so just as she's waking up he'll be waving goodbye and I'll have to face the day on 3.5 hours sleep.

I repeat...ARGH!!!!!

IBelieveInEngels Sun 06-Oct-13 11:19:31

Oh no mrsh !

M has been asleep on me for the last half an hour. I'm trapped on the sofa!

TallulahPumpkin Sun 06-Oct-13 14:06:10

MrsH Oh no, that's typical. Fingers crossed she'll have another nap later and you can grab 40 winks.

Engles We're going Cathay Pacific but the NZ leg both ways is with Air New Zealand. Hope they're both good with grumpy toddlers, lol! 5 hours to Cyprus was not much fun! He will at least have his own seat and be catered for. Think we're going to get a cheap car seat to use on the plane so it's more comfortable and we can use in the camper as well. How was M on the flights and with jetlag?
Oh and grin, looks hopeful.

Trudyla Sun 06-Oct-13 19:54:47

Congratulations Pene. How are things?

And congratulations Engels. How very exciting. Btw, unfortunately I'm nowhere near you. I am in fact as far away as possible, even further east than Berlin.

Birthdays are coming thick and fast here now, ey. We've still got more than a month left.

F is being both hilarious and infuriating at the moment. He's talking so much and repeats everythings his sister says. But my word is that boy stubborn. I have no idea where he gets it from, I'm the biggest push over in the world. Even in nursery they commented on him being rather "strong willed" hmm

I'm sick of feeling big and fat so have started my new exercise regime (Davina DVD) tonight. I am now shaking.

Have a good evening all!

PenelopeLane Mon 07-Oct-13 08:35:42

Things are going well thanks smile Lily is a delight and while I don't want to get my hopes up that it will last, has slept really well the past few nights, only 1 wake between 11ish and 8ish. So, I actually feel better with a 10 day-old than I've felt in ages as I don't have that bone tiredness anymore. <touch wood it doesn't all turn tomorrow>

Hardest part by far has been managing A and the guilt I feel for putting him through such a big change. He was quite sad at first, but now is normal at home but has been having meltdowns at nursery, today we were even called at 11am to get him it was so bad. I'm not sure what to do and wonder hope? he's getting ill or something so at least I can blame that!

talullha yes that's me in NZ, in Wellington the Capital! Where are you going again.

oh no have a crier, will try and finish post later ...

IBelieveInEngels Mon 07-Oct-13 10:32:33

M is still ill sad Had temp of over 40 again during the day and had dipped a little this morning but made him an appt wth our GP this afternoon anyway as it's still too high. Glad I did because it's gone up again. Doesn't look like I'll be going to work tomorrow at this rate.

Tallulah we found Air NZ were brill - both of our flights weren't full with them and they gave us the bulk head seats with an extra one between us (we hadn't paid for a seat for M). I think a car seat is a great idea - will keep him contained, if he's sleeping it'll be easier for you to sleep (M slept for 8 hours from Ams to HK but I couldn't sleep with him on me) and it means you don't have to wonder what's happened to a renatl car seat (M barfed on ours 3 times. I did wash it but doubt whoever had it before us did!). We flew KLM out of Europe and I was not impressed wit them, but maybe oit was just circumstances (both our KLM flights were chockfull and we were delayed on the tarmac in sweltering temperatures out of Shanghai as they had to throw someone off the plne and we missed our take off slot).

M dealt fine with jet lag. He slept for between 6 and 8 hours on 3 out of our 4 long flights. I was the one with the problem as on the outward leg I only managed 1 hour of sleep over 2 flights.

Trudy thought I'd ask! Would be a novelty having someone on the thread a short drive away. I ahd to go to NZ to see Pen for a MN meet up grin However, there's someone on my new ante-natal thread who is relocating to Amsterdam so you never know. I may get my Dutch MN meet up after all!

I was swearing by the Shred to shift the baby weight last year and have just stopped running with my running partner as we were training hard for a race (that I now have to drop out of) and I think I need to do something a bit gentler now. Weighed myself yesterday and I'm still 3kg heavier than my pre-pg weight of early 2011. Annoyed that I didn't manage to get it down befoire getting pg again. Still, have been training this year for races so feeling pretty fit even if I'm not light as a feather.

Supposed to be a BM at my best friend's wedding next October though. I looked rather full in the face when I was a BM a year after M was born...so what the hell will I look like only 4months post-partum!

Pen It must be quite an adjustment for A. Glad to hear that things are going well with L. A lot of people say the 2nd is easier unless you have twins

Okay, epic post (in fact, looking back on this thread I do post far too much!). I know I should get on with some ironing or schoolwork now (just popped M in bed) but cba.

Trudyla Mon 07-Oct-13 11:48:56

Engels Hope M feels better soon. Oh, and if you are looking after a sick child, it is actually against the law to iron wink

I liked the Shred too but find Davina more challenging (I know I'm alone on this one)

Fingers crossed for your Dutch meet-up!

Pene That sounds like fantastic sleep patterns. Long may they continue. As for A, he might just be doing his best terrible two impression and might have done even without L there. So nursery expected you to pick him up over a tantrum?

Congrats on the BFP eng grin hope M is feeling better soon

Sounds like L is a great sleeper pen glad things are going well. I would not be impressed with nursery calling me to collect over a tantrum though!
I'm sure A will soon get used to his new home set up he looked very pleased with L in the fb photo anyway!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 07-Oct-13 17:32:42

Fantastic news Engels!!!! When are you due aprox?

Mrsh, how annoying confused. S has started waking at 5.30am and comes into my bed which is fine but very rarely does she go back to sleep and is such a fidget that I don't sleep either!! I usually give up and by 6am she has her DVD player on with peppa pig so I can get just half hr more blush. I might try tomorrow putting her back to her own bed but I'm sure this will just result in tears

I've arranged to meet up with S dad in a few weeks. I had a bit of a meltdown over it last week and came close to telling him to forget everything and leave us alone. He text the day before her birthday asking when he could see her to give presents but nothing on her actual birthday and def no 'happy birthday, hope she's had a lovely day!' angry I mentioned it and he said he had no texts left on his phone and so she's not worth the extra 12p. But I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and said he can see her for a few hours. I'm really nervous about it but I'm just going to try put my negative feelings to the side. Easier said than done. Another thing, how do I introduce him to S? No way am I calling him dad yet, so maybe 'S, this is mummy's friend...'?

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 07-Oct-13 17:33:41

Oh and no it wasn't a mould I used for her cake, I printed an A3 size '2' from Internet and traced it onto the cake to cut

IBelieveInEngels Mon 07-Oct-13 17:42:22

Beginning of June (as long as it sticks, only 5 wee8 so still very early). Now have to wait 5 weeks till my booking in /scan...wish I could just jump forward in time!

Mrsh M has come into our room for the last 2 nights. Scared the life out of me at 4am this morning!

PenelopeLane Tue 08-Oct-13 00:57:21

The nursery called as it wasn't a tantrum as such - he'd been inconsolable for about 30 mins, crying and really upset, and they couldn't calm him down. I think they called as it was out of character - it's happened once before though, and last time I could hear him crying from outside the building it was so loud! He never used to cry like that, it happened at home the other day as well when his cousin (2.5) hit him, and he cried like the world was ending. I wonder if it's just a release to all the conflicting emotions he's feeling. Kinda like when I am hormonal and watch a sad movie like Lion King and end up crying, then feel better afterward. I hope so anyway! He is SO clingy to me though, poor boy.

Engels you may not put on as much weight this time? I didn't due to chasing A around.

Duck Maybe just don't say what relationship he is to you at all, just his name? I have such a complicated family with step-sisters and cousins that aren't biological relatives and biological cousins that were adopted so my legal uncles and a step-niece that lives with my mum so we tend not to specify relationships at all. Or you could just give him a name like 'the loser' and see if she uses it tee hee

IBelieveInEngels Tue 08-Oct-13 20:04:17

Ended up putting side back on M's bed at 1am last night as he got out of bed and shuffled into ours 6 times! If I could work out how to stop him hitting me in the face with a cuddly toy at midnight I would have let him stay in with us grin

Am looking forward to having a proper night's sleep for the first time since Thursday!

DUCK I was going to say what pen said about exP.

IBelieveInEngels Tue 08-Oct-13 20:04:33

Didnt mean to shout!

IBelieveInEngels Tue 08-Oct-13 20:05:23

Oh, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY DUCK! (Did mean to shout that time!)

ipswichwitch Tue 08-Oct-13 20:31:53

Hello all! Massive congrats to pen - Lily is a lovely name -- and to engels too thanks

I'm now 30 weeks and massive! Having major heartburn, swelling legs and feet and also anaemic so I'm shattered. Both me and N have just got over a nasty bout of tonsillitis, but thankfully we were well again for his birthday Friday. I've manage to buy him the most irritating toy ever - a toy kitchen with "realistic" noises, damn thing sounds like its going to take off every time he turns the hob on! Think it may need to go the journey and I'll invest in a less irritating version smile he also got a Doc mcStuffins doll that he adores. Keeps putting her on the potty and announcing that she's having a wee grin

Potty training is sort of under way. He knows what to do and what it's for, and will happily follow us to the toilet and sit on his potty shouting "wee!" or "poo!" enthusiastically. The only thing he won't do is take the nappy off while he's on it! He is actually having a wee while sitting on it though so I guess we're one step away from him using it properly.

His speech has come on leaps and bounds since moving to the 2-3 yr olds room at nursery. Sleep is not great - waking 1/2 times a night and still needs us to hold his hand to get back to sleep. We were doing gradual withdrawal but can't seem to get past the holding hand stage in order to move away. Frankly I'm too tired to put any real effort into it! He seems to be having nightmares too -waking up really scared and needing cuddles before going back to bed again.

Only 6 weeks left to work (and counting!) can't wait smile

IBelieveInEngels Fri 11-Oct-13 08:24:34

I think I would have to "lose" that toy ips!

Took side off M's bed again last night and he stayed in, though came in at 8 this morning to get me out of bed!

Half term here now so can breathe easy. Lots to do, both in house and work for school. Going to try and keep busy and keep my mind off the 5 week wait till my scan smile

IBelieveInEngels Sun 13-Oct-13 17:15:20

M just tried to eat some his own poo then realisedmit was not tasty so gave it to me. <shudder>

How generous of him Engels!

Am very nervous have an early scan tomorrow morning as had a bit if blood on Wednesday. Hopefully all is ok but worrying there won't be a bean there....

IBelieveInEngels Sun 13-Oct-13 18:08:25

Fx for you killa how many weeks are you now? 8? 9?

I'm 6 weeks tomorrow and we have our scan in 4 weeks. At the stage where I really want to be able to tell everyone but waiting waiting waiting till scan day...this is worse than the 2ww!

Fx for you killa

Eew at poo eating eng I assume you declined his kind offer grin

Has everyone else found that the little ones are suddenly not so little anymore! It really hit me when I went to collect W from nursery on Friday and he was upstairs with the under two group how big he looked and how much he's talking now (he spends most of his time in the older group now although he's not 2 til the end of the month)

PenelopeLane Sun 13-Oct-13 22:02:37

Hope the bleeding comes to nothing Killa

Lol at M trying to eat his own poo. A lunged at his in a nappy a while ago yelling "peanut butter" and we had to have a talk about how they may look similar, they're not

Arg I always hated that "secret" stage of pregnancy, and it seems cruel that the first trimester is the stage when with the nausea I wanted to tell people the most to explain why I was eating crisps non stop at work!

A is starting to act like such a 2 year old! He wants to do everything himself, every third word is no, and we end up having the longest conversations about the funniest of things - yesterday it was about trucks being asleep. So cute.

Baby L is sooo windy at present, does anyone have any tips? I never had this problem with A really

ipswichwitch Sun 13-Oct-13 22:03:29

Hope all is well tomorrow killa, I'll be keeping everything crossed for you.

envy (sick face) at poo eating engels. They're adorable but so disgusting at the same time grin

Had some progress in potty training - just letting him decide what he's doing really anyway. Yesterday he said "i want a wee" and fetched his potty. I asked it'll he wanted his nappy off and he said yes. He did the smallest micro wee ever in his potty so I clapped and was all enthusiastic, he was chuffed and got all excited then promptly weed all over the carpet! Bless him, he did help clean up though!!

MrsHende Mon 14-Oct-13 11:29:45

Fingers crossed for you Killa xx

How are you feeling Engels?

So, anyone got any good, EASY Halloween costume ideas? L was an owl last year (featuring her fabulous Dolly Pegs hat!), and I'd love to do another home made outfit but don't have much time.

I'm on holiday now for our October break and the house packing is about to start in earnest. Unfortunately DH and I are suffering with bad colds - sounds very pathetic but we both feel horrendous!! We just need to man up now though and get on with it.

IBelieveInEngels Mon 14-Oct-13 11:56:01

Not feeling too bad thanks mrsh - last time the nausea kicked in at 6 weeks and I felt rubbish till week 12. Am 6 weeks today so hoping things will be different this time round!

M is celebrating his last day of being 1 by having little tantrums. Just picked up some new wellies and he started screaming in the shop because he didn't want to put his shoes back on, or new wellies...so was in the buggy with no shoes on on this autumnal day.

No ideas for Halloween....we won't dress M up but I have a Halloween party at school in the afternoon so need my best Zombie face on.

Thank you everyone all is fine grin. There was something looking remarkably like a jellybean in there with a heart beating away. All spot on for dates so can relax now.

No idea for Halloween am struggling with birthday cake ideas for Wednesday and it's our first wedding anniversary on Friday haven't planned anything so I'm panicking! X

ipswichwitch Mon 14-Oct-13 22:19:18

Glad to hear everything's alright killa, what a relief.
Have a look on the tesco party website - loads of stuff on there including a fab toddler Darth Vader costume I have to get N for his nursery Halloween party grin

Our 1st wedding anniversary was over a week ago and we've still done nothing. Family fallings out (over a ridiculously misunderstood text) meant we had nobody to babysit. DH is going to have a word with MIL and try to get something sorted and try to get a couple of evenings out before our little kicker arrives. I'm so glad I'm due just before Christmas. We have the perfect excuse to stay home this year and avoid yet more IL family drama. And people wonder why I moved so far from my own family!!

Oh ipswitch! Family can be a nightmare. Hope you get a night out together.

IBelieveInEngels Tue 15-Oct-13 19:22:19

Looks like I spoke too soon. Little bean wasn't so sticky after all sad

On M's birthday as well but at least I could give him an extra big cuddle tonight before bed.

I really have to get myself down to the fancy dress shop or raid the drama cupboard for Hallowe'en.

Trudyla Tue 15-Oct-13 19:38:00

I'm so sorry Engels. Have you been in hospital?

Be kind to yourself and I hope you are being well looked after.

Hope M had a nice birthday! xxx

IBelieveInEngels Tue 15-Oct-13 20:17:15

No hospital but bleeding all day and exactly the same as the last mc I had (also at 6 weeks). Spoke to mw and she thought it sounded like a mc. Will take a pg test next week to make sure.

M had a great birthday. He got to play all day at nursery, they made him a crown, I let him eat cheese scones for breakfast, he didn't nap so was a bit of a horror this evening, pizza and profiteroles for tea and lots of birthday cards and shiny new cars to play with. He went to bed a very happy boy.

I am now curled up on the sofa MNing while DH plays with our new TV package. And really looking forward to the rest of my week off!

Trudyla Tue 15-Oct-13 21:14:45

Lucky M, sounds like a great birthday.

Enjoy your week off!

MrsHende Tue 15-Oct-13 21:18:15

So sorry Engels, hard day. X

So sorry Engels. Glad M had a good birthday. Take it easy the rest of the week x

So sorry eng look after yourself. Glad M had a good birthday

Good to hear that things are ok killa

Hope the family stuff sorts itself ips and you get your night out. Family are a real pain sometimes.

Think W was just having a bad dream! Was startled out of watching bake off by him yelling No,no over the baby monitor and flinging his arms about! He settled down again without us going in so not too bad.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 15-Oct-13 23:22:17

Aww Engels, sorry to hear that sad. Have a relaxing week off work ( hard I know with a 2 year old!) thanks
Glad M had a lovely birthday!

Glad all well killa smile

Birthdays are coming thick and fast now!! I still find it crazy that I have a 2 year old. How did that happen? grin

We are staying at my mums tonight. I was out with friends for my birthday and they are closer to town so cheaper on a taxi. Listening to S snoring away beside me smile. Ill second what you said pen about the long conversations. The things she's saying now are unreal. Her imagination has def taken a huge leap forward in the past few weeks. She has a thing for picnics (?) and every day puts a blanket out in the hall, brings out her doll and teddies, candles(!!!) and other random items then sits down looking all happy with herself. It's really cute as she's talking away whilst she goes about her business. I honestly don't think my heart can love her anymore <3

Hope everyone well

PenelopeLane Wed 16-Oct-13 00:27:33

Sorry to hear that engels thanks

TallulahPumpkin Thu 17-Oct-13 22:22:07

Engles so sorry to hear that. <<hugs>>

Glad to hear all the birthdays are going well so far. Loving seeing all the cakes.

Keep thinking of things to mention on here and then forget it by the time I log on! Seb counted to 10 (correctly, not missing any numbers out) on his own this week! He's got a book of words and can tell me most of them from the pictures. He's still not got the hang of colours though. Everything is 'reen' still, then 'lello'. Sometimes he doesn't look before guessing! We got a guess of 'not-reen' once grin.

Pene we're sticking to the North Island, how much will we be able to see in two weeks? We have the first two days in Auckland then pick up the camper for 2 weeks and have got the wedding in Tarunga in the middle. Looking into hotels for Hong Kong and Auckland at the moment. Anyone got any suggestions?

Decided against lugging a car seat about but think we will get a CARES seat restraint for the plane instead. They don't seem overly available here but look quite good (if not cheap).

IBelieveInEngels Fri 18-Oct-13 08:51:07

Morning all.

Well, the terrible twos are here! We have had three crazy tantrums since Tuesday - all just before breakfast or dinner. DH and I ended up in fits of hysterics at the dinner table on Tuesday - M was obviously straving and overtired. When he finished throwing himself around he attacked his bread like he was possessed. From now on we will rate the hungriest level of hunger as "Satan hungry" grin

Took myself out for some retail therapy on Wednesday so that I can look chic through the winter (lovely winter coat and some thick tights so I can stay in dresses).

I have to decide what to do about the 15k I was training for. I stopped when I got pg so have now had 2-3 weeks with no training and the race is in a month. Think I should bite the bullet and give ii a go (which means I have to go running today!).

All pg symptoms are gone and bleed has almost finished. Will take a test next week to be sure but..well...I'm sure that it's gone. Able to feel a bit more matter-of-fact about it now, just couldn't on Tuesday when it was actually happening. Now trying to look forward (and remember that 2months after I had my last mc I got pg with M!).

Tally I would definitely make sure you go to Taupo (one of my favourite places in NZ) and up to the Bay of Islands and 90 mile beach (and of course down to Wellington to see pen !).

IBelieveInEngels Fri 18-Oct-13 08:58:08

And am exhausted in a nice way from the stream of chatter that comes out of M's mouth.

Our trip to the zoo yesterday (half term birthday treat as DH was also free) went something like thi...

"Bus! Car! Lorry! Motorbike! Tree! Cow! Sheep! Bird! Cloud! Careful! Kiss! Mama! Papa! Book! I see you! Shoe! Sock! Trousers! Water!" <and repeat> For 30 minutes.

God love him smile

ipswichwitch Fri 18-Oct-13 13:00:24

I'm sorry to hear the bad news engels (((big hug)))
Soundls like M had a lovely birthday - his chatter sounds just like N. this morning on the way to nursery we had ...
"tractor!tractor! car, bike, lights, 'reen (not got the hang of red or yellow yet!), LOOKLOOK!, horses, 2 (his favourite number!), porridge" (that was on arrival at nursery). i love their chatter, it's too cute for words smile

family are still being crap (well, one family member in particular), but MIL is now keeping out of it and babysitting tonight so me and DH can have our anniversary meal (yay!), and it's at our favourite place that do a truly awesome sticky toffee pudding (drool!!!)

ipswichwitch Fri 18-Oct-13 19:13:08

I realise this is a minor problem but I'm really pissed off that the only nice dress I have that fits has bastard bleach marks on sad
Wore it for a christening a month ago and I remember the baby change facilities smelling strongly of bleach but thought nothing of it. Now I will be going out tonight wearing a navy dress with pink splotches. Great. Looking for a navy marker pen to try n colour in the worst of it.
I'm so annoyed and been looking forward to this all day and its a lush dress when it's on too. Hope the restaurant is nice nd dimly lit so nobody notices!
Ok rant over. As you were smile

IBelieveInEngels Fri 18-Oct-13 19:30:10

That sucks ips. But blue felt tip sounds very creative! No one will know!

Ipswitch could you die it navy again? Dylon washing machine dyes are good. Have done it for some housekeeper work t-shirts that had bleach on and it worked a treat. no help for your dinner out though

MrsHende Sun 20-Oct-13 21:18:55

Good idea Killa!

How is everyone? We are still the house of the lurgy! On the mend now though.

Anyone else have a wee one with a film/tv programme obsession? L has watched The Wizard of Oz about 20 times, in a WEEK!!! She saw it for the first time on Friday night (when DH and I were both feeling awful and needed something to help get through the evening!), and between us all being ill and bad weather, not to mention tantrums from L, she's now seen it that often!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sun 20-Oct-13 21:41:54

Ips, I was about to suggest the dye for your dress. Hope you had a lovely meal thanks

Mrsh, S really enjoys watching films now. She doesn't watch tv much so I don't feel guilty about putting something on for her to watch. We have had such a lazy day today and watch Aladdin twice along with strictly and X factor results blush.

My turn to moan. The job I got offered a few months ago, I was wondering why I hadn't heard anything back yet as I filled out forms, PVG etc back at start of sept. planned to phone tomorrow but happened to get a letter yesterday from the HR dept. the bloomin PVG form hasn't even been sent yet! They seem to think I still have it and was sending a reminder to get it away, but I filled it in in front of them and they were to send it off angry. I'm so annoyed as it will be another 4 weeks or so now till I get it back. Ill be lucky to get any work now before Christmas at this rate!!!

IBelieveInEngels Sun 20-Oct-13 21:43:14

M hums the bob the builder theme tune randomly and shouts either THOMAS! BOB THE BUILDER! Or SCOOBY DOO! everytime I turn the tv on blush

Had M's birthday party today so all cream crackered here. Mostly adults, though DH's friends with 3 boys under 6 came late in the afternoon and swept through our house like a tornado - I really don't know how they cope (my money's on lots of gin).

Get well soon MrsH.

That's awful duck how rubbish of them not to have sent it. Hope it gets sorted soon.

mrsH W usually asks for Pat, Tumble or Night. (Postman pat, Mr Tumble aka something special or In the night garden) although we only let him have Night as part of his bedtime routine. He doesn't stop for long enough to make it through a film! I've found a good way of stopping him watching too much Pat (his favourite) is to have some Pat books and offer those instead - it works at least half the time and he's learnt now that I won't always put the tv on for him. He watches most first thing in the morning while he's waking up and we are getting ready for the day

IBelieveInEngels Mon 21-Oct-13 07:38:47

x-posted with you last night Duck. That's rubbish.

M got a few nice bits for his birthday. Some clothes, books and little cars with a track from BIL. Even though we haven't been overwhelmed with stuff I will still need to sort out his toy box before Christmas.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 21-Oct-13 07:54:56

I had a bit of a sort out a few months ago but still feel like toy central again! Dreading what Santa will bring grin. I ordered a wooden kitchen which arrived last week. I'm already thinking it will need to stay in living room as I can't see it fitting in her room confused

ipswichwitch Mon 21-Oct-13 22:08:23

Thanks all, we had a lovely meal and nobody seemed to notice the colouring in efforts! Dylon is a great idea, will have to get some sharpish as this is the dress I'm wearing for pretty much every occasion until normal clothes fit again!

N loves Jake and the Neverland Pirates - he has foam swords he makes us play fight with shouting "yo ho ho!" At the top of his voice! He also loves Doc McStuffins and will cuddle his toy Doc doll while watching it, either that or put her on the potty and inform us she's having a wee grin

TallulahPumpkin Mon 21-Oct-13 22:51:24

Mummy how annoying.

MrsH that's impressive, i don't think I've seen it that many times. Seb loves Waybuloo, ITNG but his absolute favourite is Peppa ('Gegga Gig'). He can watch it for ages but I don't think he has the staying power to watch a whole film. He started engrossed by "Cloudy with a chance of meatballs" when it was on at the weekend but didn't last. We've not watched one in a while but he used to love musicals. Perhaps we should try him with Oz.

We had to buy another cupboard for all his toys last weekend! God knows what his birthday will bring, we've tried to be sensible and not buy too much.

PenelopeLane Mon 21-Oct-13 23:15:58

I've been meaning to catch up here for ages, but usually surf the internet with a baby in hand at present so it's rare to not be typing one handed! Lily's sooo windy still, it's really tough some days - have tried everything that's been recommended and all is well for a short while or a couple of days, but then it comes back. Boo! She is a delight but the crying can feel very stressful.

Tally what time of year are you there? If summer, you've got a lot of choice and most places are nice. To give you an idea of distances, Auckland - Wellington is a 9 hour drive, and Auckland to Northland (which engels recommended and is very nice) is about 4 - 5 hours in the other direction. Taupo is halfway between Auckland and Wellington. There is a lot of lovely things to see in the upper North island in the general area around Tauranga as well if you want to minimise time spend in cars - the Coromandel is near there and has some great beaches (although to be avoided at New Years eve due to beach parties!) and Rotorua not too far away either - maybe a couple of hours. Rotorua as a town itself isn't that flash but there is a lot to see there in terms of of thermal pools and geysers, and some nice lakes.

PenelopeLane Mon 21-Oct-13 23:16:49

A loves Peppa as well, and the Lion King, which he calls 'warthog singing' grin

TallulahPumpkin Tue 22-Oct-13 20:30:01

Pen lol, I've not tried Seb with Lion King. Might have to look that one out.

We're getting to NZ on 26 Feb and are there until 14 Mar. We'd like to see as much as we can (thanks to you and Engles for the tips) but will be obliged to spend at least some time with the 'happy couple'! My parents went to NZ a few years ago and loved Rotorua. I'll let you know if the plan is to end up in Wellington. We'll be planning a bit closer to the time.

I taught Seb to answer, and showed it off at the childminders: I ask him 'Where are we going on holiday' and he says 'Hoonnng Koonnng' (actually it's more like 'Gonnhoonngkonnn' So cute. New Zealand is a bit harder to say but he has a good go at it.

IBelieveInEngels Wed 23-Oct-13 18:27:49

M has spent this evening alternately throwing himself on the floor in floods of tears and giggling uncontrollably as he sits next to me on the sofa with his trousers on his head. It's like living with Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.

Is this just preparation for the teenage years? grin

MrsHende Wed 23-Oct-13 20:18:23

Engels, the photo on FB is hilarious!

I heard the other day that the hormones going around a two year old's body are only around in such quantities again when they're going through puberty! So, yes, we're being prepared for the teenage years...grin.

DH and I are just home from a lovely 2 day, baby free, break in St Andrews. The lie-ins were wonderful!!

Went to the doc this morning to see if she had any baby making advice. It was a good day to take bloods to see if I've ovulated this month and she called this evening to say that the results show I haven't, I thought I had. So, back on Friday to take more blood. Keeping fingers crossed (and wondering how to break the news to DH that we need to squeeze more action in this week just in case I'm ovulating RIGHT NOW shockshock)

2 day break sounds lovely MrsH hope the docs can give you some answers soon

W slept with a duvet for the first time last night and slept all the way through - a much better start than I expected.
Realised this afternoon that this time 2 years ago I was in hospital strapped to a monitor at the start of a very long induction!

IBelieveInEngels Thu 24-Oct-13 19:12:23

M is the same now strawb In fact when he managed to poo through his duvet cover last weekend and I had to wash it, he wouldn't go to sleep with just a sleeping bag on - he made me put a blanket over him.

Think the side of the bed may have to go again hello sleepless nights as DH said that M climbed out of bed this morning and he caught him just befoire he hit the floor.

Have had an undignified day having scan at mw and at hospital/gynacaelogist (sp?) to check that everything was definitely gone as had very strong pg test a week post-mc and ongoing pg symptoms. HCG has dropped a lot so just have to go for one last blood test next week and we should have the all clear to ttc after next AF. I told DH that I don't think I have ever had so many people look at my fanjo in one day grin

Good luck MrsH . Perhaps you and DH should try the 'just shagging' approach?! I swear I'm too old for it now. I should have tried to get pg when I was in my mid-20s and full of energy. DH and I are both so exhausted right now blush (though his ADs don't help).

Time to get my trainers back on to get ready for my 15k race in 3 weeks. have been out of training for over 3 weeks so hope I make it up (and down) the hills.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 24-Oct-13 21:24:33

Oh Engels, that sounds hard. I hate having all those examinations etc. I guess the doctors take it all in their stride grin. Good luck with race!!

All well here. Phoned about the job problems, apparently PVG has been sent, just taking a long time to come back. That's 7 weeks now... confused Fingers crossed I can get some work before Christmas. The savings are really dwindling now sad

I'm meeting up with S dad tomorrow. I'm so nervous about seeing him which is just ridiculous!! I do feel ok about it all though and I'm glad I didn't rush into anything. I'm just worried about how S will take to it all. She's very confident with people so I don't see that being an issue, but more the 'who's that man mummy'. I'm planning to say to him that for the time being, he is 'dave' and not 'daddy'.

Tonight, she said to me 'where's my daddy?' (We had been talking to neighbours who's little girl was telling is her daddy was working). I said to her 'who is your daddy?' And she replied 'I don't know mummy' sad. I hope for her sake this does work and she can have a relationship with him.

TallulahPumpkin Thu 24-Oct-13 22:32:43

Good luck Mummy and S, hope it goes OK tomorrow.

Good luck mummy hope it goes well x

IBelieveInEngels Fri 25-Oct-13 09:48:51

Good luck today duck thanks

(and btw I still can't believe how articulate S is - still one word sentences here!)

MrsHende Fri 25-Oct-13 18:16:11

How did it go duck? Was thinking about you.

Such a hard thing to do, but I think you're doing the right thing, I just hope he realises how lucky he is that you're giving him this chance thanks.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Fri 25-Oct-13 18:51:36

Thanks ladies, you are all so lovely thanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanks

It went much better than I expected. My tummy was in knots driving over to meet him, but it was almost like all was forgotten and everything was how it should be after a few mins. He was amazed with S (not surprising as she was 6 weeks old last time.. confused) but he started talking back to her and she seemed very at ease. I was honestly expecting her to ask 'who's that man' as she often does to people she doesn't know, but she never. Just smiled and said hi, almost like she knew who he was and wasn't shy etc.
we sat and had a coffee and watched people skiing (mrsh you should know where I mean!) and it was nice. He didn't say anything about the past few years, just that he couldn't get over how beautiful she is (my heart softened a little for him when he said it). Gave her a birthday gift which was nice of him. So who knows what's next, he asked to see us again next weekend but we are away so maybe following one.

Thank you all again for wishing me luck, it was honestly much needed smile x

IBelieveInEngels Sat 26-Oct-13 19:05:19

Good to hear Duck

Any ideas for keeping the little critters from waking us all up before dawn tomorrow? Trying to keep Max up for an extra hour, but I don't think it's going to be rewarded with a lie in tomorrow monring! This morning at 6.30am he managed to climb out of his bed and came into us, so the side is now off and staying off whihc I reckon will mean some sleepless nights for us.

Wondering about getting one of those lights that gradually comes on or turns acertain colour (can't remember what they're called) though reckon M is sitll too young to get the hang of it.

Must call hospital next week to try and get an earlier appointment for the lump on M's tongue. Not till early mid-December but we can see that's grown in size.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 26-Oct-13 19:20:00

Engels, I'm keeping the time the sand and just going to move it back mid morning once we are up and dressed etc. that way I won't feel so bad! Haha

I'm sure if you call them to say its grown they will see M sooner eh?

IBelieveInEngels Sat 26-Oct-13 19:35:22

Hope so, otherwise we have to wait 6 weeks and I think that's too long.

Glad it went ok duck smile

eng hope you can get the appointment moved if you feel 6 weeks is too long then it is, keep pushing if they say no

ipswichwitch Mon 28-Oct-13 21:18:05

Glad it went well duck, and hope it continues to do so.
engels I would ring and ask for it to be brought forward, and if that's not an option yet keep ringing for cancellations. N is taking off with his sentences now - mostly "I want....." type of things! It's a bit like a switch has been flicked as he's coming out with all sorts.

Had a horrendous weekend - he's had an ear infection since Friday, then last night vomited some blood while we were giving calpol. After a 1am visit to the drop in centre, seems he's just strained his oesophagus with coughing and burst a couple of small blood vessels, along with the fact he has tonsillitis again. Poor little guy - the blood was quite scary. He's now tucked up in the spare bed with DH for the night. We are getting him a proper bed this week, with duvet and everything since he seems to be much happier in one than his cotbed. Seriously tempted to get the pirate ship one to go with the pirate decor I'm trying to get finished!

PenelopeLane Tue 29-Oct-13 00:06:02

Ips that sounds really scary! Hope he's ok

Engels hope that appointment can get moved, fingers crossed

duck so glad to hear visit with S's dad went well! Here's hoping for more of the same in the future

Cheshire haven't heard from you in a while <although may not have been paying attention lol>, you musn't have long to go now?

Talullah your trip sounds good! Tauranga is nice as well, lots of good beaches there too and you're coming at a nice time of year smile Let me know if there's anything else you need advice on!

I am knackered, I love being a SAHM with 2 at present, but do find it quite full on at times! Although tbh I don't find it more full on than I did when A was a month old - as Lily is now - as half the effort is having to learn to juggle two. Am telling self all will be easy as once I get the hang of it deluded perhaps?

Gosh ips how scary! Hope N is feeling better soon what a horrible combo of illnesses to have

Can't believe L is a month already pen! how is A doing with her now?

ipswichwitch Thu 31-Oct-13 19:47:52

N is much better now thanks. He went back to nursery today, thoroughly enjoyed his Halloween party too smile

Where did that month go pen? I've been thinking about the whole juggling two of them thing - guess we'll make it up as we go! I'm looking forward to Christmas at home with lovely new baby and N running about with his presents - and it's def gonna be a pj day!

CallingAllEngels Mon 04-Nov-13 13:16:22

ips glad that N is feeling better.

Managed to get M's appt moved to next week.

I am slowly but surely falling apart at the seams sad

Went back to hospital last week for final (or so I thought) appt re: mc but there is something clinging on somewhere that has caused my HCG levels to go back up. I'm definitely not pregnant, though I have the tiredness, emotions and unfortunately the stomach that says otherwise. I'm just so tired of it all. I want my body to go back to normal so we can ttc again. I just feel like I'm in limbo. I can't concentrate on anything so am way behind in schoolwork. ave missed loads of classes due to illness/hospital appts that am slipping further and further behind.

M has also decided that now is the perfect time to get up at the crack of dawn and the middle of the night, not sleep during the day, make beditme intoa drama and stick to me like a limpet. I need matchsticks for my eyes, can't get a thing done and everytime I think I've pulled myself together I last a day before bursting into tears.

Typing with M on my lap as he watches Bob the builder and has lost interest in my laptop for 5 fucking minutes

Going to the UK this weekend to see my family and friends (inc BF over from NZ) which am looking forward to BUT also know I should be packing right now and just can't face it.

Had a massive row with DH on Thursday as well - was home ill with flu/cold and he couldn't keep M downstairs to let me sleep. I came down after M woke me up by jumping all over me to find DH sitting on his arse on his tablet. I feel like I've been so supportive with his depression in supporting him practically by doing more childcare and housework, giving him an extra couple of hours in bed at the weekend if M is up early, and he can't even look after M for one chuffing day angry

Sorry for ranting away but I honestly feel so shit at the moment. I feel like life is such a balancing act right now, and if one thing upsets that balance I just can't cope sad

eng lovely that all sounds horrible thanksbrew and biscuit for you. Hope the hospital can get to the bottom of it soon. I don't really know what else to say just be gentle with yourself and feel free to vent away here. Fx that M's appointment goes ok too.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 04-Nov-13 23:30:19

Engels, that sounds tough for you at the moment thanks I don't know what to say except what strawberry has said. Take care of yourself and vent away all you need. Are you taking M with you this wkend? Great about his apt, such a relief not to have to wait so long

How is everyone else doing? Things here good. Finally got all paper work stuff sorted for my job so I need to call them tomorrow to see what happens next as I'm only supply and they haven't said much about how it all works. Fingers crossed for some work now!!

Things re S dad have been going well. Haven't seen him again since few weeks ago as me and S were away for the weekend so I think there was talk of maybe meeting up wkend coming. I have a bit of a problem now though and I knew it would happen, just didn't think this soon..my feelings for him are starting to come back and it's hurting me so bad sad. At first, any talk was strictly re S and then it became general chit chat, now it's verging on more and I can't stop myself going along with it. I really need to though as I'm still so angry with him over how he acted for past few years, plus I'm sure he is with someone else (I was told this through mutual friends, he hasn't said his self) sad

PenelopeLane Tue 05-Nov-13 07:19:27

engels that sounds hard, I hope you're managing to walk that thin tightrope of keeping it together - and feel free to offload here as much as you need to as well! I hope that your trip to the UK recharges your batteries at least a little.

Has M dropped his day sleep entirely? A is now only having one every few days, and it's making for much longer days and more tv

Duck how confusing it must be to have feelings for S's dad still, after all this time! As long as you look after yourself I suppose and somehow manage to separate him as your ex and him as S's dad, which is pretty easy for me to write as I've never been in that situation but imagine it's really really hard x 100000. When I was single I used to write lists of ex's bad points to stop falling for them again which used to help, although to my shame also had one for DH written when I thought we were breaking up after about a month together that I hope I destroyed grin

Baby L is now almost 6 weeks and her wind is having better periods now so more cooing and looking at me and quality interaction rather than always crying which is lovely. I went to a GP about her wind and turns out it's my milk flow being too fast so am currently working on that

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 05-Nov-13 08:17:38

Thanks pen. I need to pull myself together and not allow it. He's hurt me too many times before and I won't let it happen again. I just can't help but be drawn in to what he's saying!

6 weeks already? Where is the time going!! grin

It was so cold here last night, down to -3 at one point! S came through to my bed at 1.30am and asked to sleep with me. Normally I would've put her back but she was too cosy smile

CallingAllEngels Tue 05-Nov-13 09:48:10

Thanks strawb I am currently scoffing goats cheese instead of biscuits!

Sounds tough Duck . Perhaps pull together in one word doc all your MN posts that talk about how he was treating you and how he made you feel to remind you what a dick he was. <hugs>

M is constantly coming into our bed in the night. Atm I feel so shit I'm putting him back and staying with him in his room until he's calm then coming back to bed, but he's usually padding back in within half an hour and I don't have the energy to get out of bed again and take him back. Last night he woke at 11.30, and ended up with us for the whole night (I had put him back once). At my wits end - trying to remember the last time he slept in his own bed all night. Even wondering about putting up a big bed for him (and then I can sleep there if he insists on coming back in with us!). Tbh I feel like I just need to get through what's happening right now and deal with the sleeping later.

Was nippy here too this morning (though not quite below freezing!). Have my fx for you re: work duck.

Glad L is doing better with wind pen. Are you on the nano thread under a different name? (someone there knows me but I don't know who it is if it isn't you!)

M is picking and choosing when he naps.
Thurs - no,
Fri - yes,
Sat - yes but only because I went to have sleep with him and pinned him down for 20 minutes before he nodded off
Sun - yes
Mon - no

he's at nursery right now so hoping he sleeps. He's also started being really naughty - pushing the limits of what he can do.

This change in behaviour has coincided with him moving up a group at nursery - wonder if he's copying the big kids!

Just waiting nervously at home before I head to hospital for my appointment. freaking out a little as someone on another thread suggested I might have had a molar pregnancy. Would explain my symptoms but would also involved further treatment, small possibility of chemo and would have to wait a minimum of 6 months before ttc again depending on what the outcome is (longer if chemo involved).

Aaaargh - I know I shouldn't google but I can't help it!

DH is at work so a friend is coming with me. Good to have another pair of ears (especially when it's all in Dutch!).

CallingAllEngels Tue 05-Nov-13 14:00:50

Dr said def not molar as HCG nowhere near high enough. HCG had gone up again a little bit.

I just have to wait it out and be patient. They wouldn't do a D&V (if that's what it's called?) because there's nothing visible on the scan so they wouldn't know where to look.

Just have to go back next week again fro HCG checks. If it really doesn't go down by itself I will have an injection but they'd rather let nature take it's course if possible. Injection would have impact on when we could take ttc further. Dr said it could take 3-4 weeks for HCG to drop naturally.

I'm taking the next 2 days off work. So frustrating to still feel so pg sad

Thanks for your support ladies thanks

PenelopeLane Tue 05-Nov-13 20:39:24

engels Nope not me on the NaNo thread - not this year! Although would still like to finish last year's effort, have done 65000 words but suspect I need another 20k or so to finish the story.

Glad to hear it's not a molar pregnancy as well. And A is in my bed more often now too with DH moving to the spare room blush, I get too tired otherwise - so no need to beat yourself up about it, sometimes sleep is the most important thing at all costs!

Brrr that sounds cold duck, It's slowly warming up here, can't wait until summer

Glad it's not molar eng hope whatever it is sorts itself out soon.

Brrr duck and I thought it was getting cold here! It must be really hard for you with S's dad I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like, you are always so strong don't let him mess you about again

W's talking is coming on in leaps and bounds now I think moving up a group at nursery has really helped. I asked him where his juice was earlier and his response was 'umm somewhere' I didn't even know he knew the word! Was so cute and very funny he looked around aimlessly before answering too! He did then go and fetch his juice grin

Engels sending you a huge (((hug))) Hope things get better must be horrible to feel pregnant and not be :-(
Have you said anything to DH about doing more or do you avoid because of his depression?

Duck must be tough with S's Dad. I think earlier advice is right you need to remind yourself of all the things he did that were wrong. It's ok for him to have a relationship with S and you will facilitate that for her sake but that's it. He's got a lot to prove after being AWOL for so long.

Strawb that's so cute. E's talking so much more now too I love it.

E is poorly he has tonsillitis so have had no sleep and he won't let me do anything just cries the minute I put him down. I'm exhausted! Have big couple of days at work so am hoping he sleeps tonight but he's refusing to go to bed at the moment....

MrsHende Wed 06-Nov-13 20:25:33


All the above for all who need them! Engels, sounds awful, I really hope you begin to feel better soon. Mummy, keep the heid lassie!! Stay strong, one step at a time. Killa - some for you too, you must be exhausted.

Terrible day here. L is fine (in a nearly two year old, tantruming way!), but lots of issues with our house sale and buy a stressful day at work tomorrow, period started so still not pg and DH is working till 10pm all week.

Roll on Friday and wine o'clock!

E just gone to sleep so am finally having dinner cold pizza as I was too optimistic earlier

MrsH wine and thanks for you too!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 07-Nov-13 00:06:00

Thanks ladies, I've got my sensible head on now! Blaming hormones for the crazy talk grinwink. It's been interesting though as I feel like I've gotten to know him all over again, a lot has happened with him (and me!) the past 2 years! I don't know if I will ever forgive him for just walking away for all that time, but I coming round to a better way of thinking with regards to him getting to know S.

Love hearing how all our babies are growing and coming up with new words smile. We had such a funny moment tonight with S while at my parents for dinner. It's been S, me and my mums birthdays all within the past month and S is still in the wishing us 'happy birthday mummy/gran' stage. She said to my mum tonight to close her eyes as age had a birthday treat for her. My mum played along and S went off on the hunt for something and came back a few mins later with my mums jumper she found laying in her room. All funny and we had a laugh etc. next she said it was papas turn and he was to close his eyes for his birthday treat. Again she wanders off, 5 mins later she came walking back through to my dad shouting 'here your birthday treat papa!!' Carrying my mums bra!!!! Honestly, we all had tears from laughing and S thought it was all so funny!! One of those moments I don't think ill forget grin

Has anyone's dc been called for this flu spray? I'm really unsure if I should get her it or not, I don't really see the point as I don't think she would be overly exposed to it.. My friend who is a gp advised for it thought and was surprised she hadn't been called yet.

That's so cute duck love that she's still giving people presents! RE the flu 'jab' W has had it but I had to fight to get it for him. I don't know if its different in Scotland but I was told by the doctors receptionist that they had to be 2 BEFORE September to be eligible for the jab and therefore W wasn't eligible and I guess none of the Oct group would be! I went to his GP as I felt he should be eligible as he's had a kidney op, she agreed so he's had it. Really painless he just sat and stared at them as they pushed the stuff up his nose! In and out in under a minute.
So I guess the end result of that ramble is that S hasn't been called because she's too young.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 07-Nov-13 19:01:06

Oh I didn't realise that strawberry re the dates. S is 30th sept so wondering if she makes it by a day. Ill google around and see what I can find. I honestly doubt ill get it but I'm curious

I didn't realise either until I tried to book W in for his!

TallulahPumpkin Thu 07-Nov-13 21:29:51

Engles So sorry you've had it bad recently. You're def due some good luck soon. I can feel it...

Whoever recommended 'The Big Night Night Book' Thank You. Seb LOVES it. We have to read it at least 3 times before bed. I couldn't face reading it a fourth time yesterday so he decided to 'read' it himself, cue him pointing to things going 'night night', 'sock', 'shoeson', bouncing ball', 'sleeping birdies' etc....so cute.

He's also started something else really cute; our cat is called Stanley but he's often know as either Stan-boy or Stanley-Cat (don't ask hmm!). Seb has obviously heard us saying this randomly and now calls him a combination of the two: 'Danley Boi'. So cute grin

Mummy re the flu jab, I was going to phone the GP to get it but realised Seb was born a bit too late. So funny with the bra!

Tally might have to get that book it sounds good.

Engels how're things? Hope you're feeling a bit better x

Does anyone have any advice of clocks to tell DC's when it is morning/ when to stay in bed? We're thinking of putting E in proper bed when we get back from holiday and I want him to be able to check when it's time to get up <clings to hope this will stop him coming into our bed!>

Had 12 week scan yesterday but the baby wouldn't get in position for tests so have to go again on Thursday. Have manic week at work and have to pack so really wanted scan sorted and to know all was ok by now.

Any hints on what to pack? 2 weeks in gran canaria and I cannot think what to pack (too sleep deprived after E's tonsillitis)

Pen how's L now are you getting any more sleep? After four nights of up every two hours I've been sadly reminded of what it's like with a newborn and am panicking slightly how I'll manage with two.

Ipswitch and Cheshire how're the bumps coming along?

MrsHende Sat 09-Nov-13 23:57:08

Jealous of your holiday Killa! Have a great time. Sorry the scan wasn't as you hoped, let's hope the wee bean gets himself sorted into the right position for next time!

I can't believe L is two tomorrow! Just had a lovely evening wrapping presents and getting ready for the morning, can't wait to see her face.

How are you feeling this weekend Engels? Is DH pulling his weight a bit more? I hope so.

CallingAllEngels Sun 10-Nov-13 08:40:59

Hi ladies,

Just a quick wave from the UK. Heading back home this afternoon after Sunday lunch with my parents. Has been good for my head to get away. Physically still tired and a bit nauseous. Though had the best part of a bottle of wine on Friday which didn't help and M's sleep is still all over the place.

Will catch up properly with the thread when I'm back home.

Happy birthday L!

CheshireDing Mon 11-Nov-13 14:34:16

Hi Ladies < waves > I have been a stressed out misery so buggered off for a while. We only just had the new carpets laid last week and I finished work on Wednesday so have been trying to put the house back together initially after the boiler flood (2 months in total !) Plus No2 has only just turned from breech in the last 2 weeks so with having a destroyed house where P only had about 3 toys out she could play with and the risk of a c-section and 10 hours working days and a sick cat, dog, DH, me AND P, I am knackered - but now starting to perk up (excluding knackeredness) grin

There are so fab Birthday cakes on fb, very impressed with the finish too, they are look so lovely and smooth and free of flour envy

Sorry to hear No2 didn't stick Engels, I hope you are feeling a bit better now after your trip back to the UK.

Am very envy of Killas 2 weeks in the sunshine ! Enjoy. I always end up packing very little - swim stuff and a few day and eve clothes - I just rotate (although maybe I am just trampy) grin

Glad S likes the book Tallulah, it's quite a quick bedtime read too which is always a bonus (unlike the Gruffalo)

MW came yesterday and dropped off a delivery pack for our HB, DC2 needs to stay in until Wednesday then we are at 37 weeks - although she did say a few times "if it turns up before Wednesday we can't force you to go in to hospital" (so for the sake of the odd day I would prob just dig my heels in). I think it's unlikely it will be turning up yet though. I hate not knowing when they are turning up - I like to plan stuff.

P met Peppa Pig yesterday, OMG how excited was she ! Her talking is amazing yesterday evening she said "I saw Peppa Pig and waved when she go for dinner" (this is because Pig Security told her Peppa was going for dinner). I was well impressed she remembered. Some speech is not so good - "I was on the floor and crying and I was sad" (after I made her do time out on Saturday) sad sad

CallingAllEngels Mon 11-Nov-13 15:40:03

DH and I have had words about sharing responsibilities with M and housework more killa . Especially with the last month and the fact that bed time is not as simple as it used to be, I’ve made it clear that I will NOT be doing 6 out of 7 bedtimes anymore! Hope E is feeling better. Have a great holiday and good luck with scan.

I would love to know how to get M to stay in bed too. Magic formulas welcome! I need more sleep!

MrsH sorry to hear you’re having a tough time as well. Thanks for the wine and thanks . Most appreciated!

chesh sounds like you’ve been dealing with so much. Try to enjoy your ML.

Feeling much better after our weekend away. Was definitely what I needed to do to sort my head out. Heading back to work tomorrow morning and then have hospital appointment in the afternoon so fx levels have gone down.

Had appt for M’s tongue today and they’ve agreed to remove lump, especially given that it’s bled quite heavily the last week (3 times) and is now back to the a=size it was in August so it’s either burst of a bit has fallen off (hence bleeding). May be a few months yet though.

Okay, my MN time today is nearly up. Have to get dinner on and have a mountain of marking waiting for me (o joy!).

Thanks for your ongoing support ladies. It really does feel like we’re old friends chatting away about our toddlers…you’re my first MN friends smile

Good that they will remove the lump for M eng hope he's not waiting too long it sounds horrible for him.

Yay for carpets chesh hope the HB goes to plan!

Poor W is really under the weather at the moment we had him at ooh on Saturday -he's got a fungal infection in his penis and then he was sick this morning hmm and when I got home from work today DH announced that cat has a poorly paw! She's limping but I think it's just a sprain

How did the appointment go tidy eng?

CallingAllEngels Wed 13-Nov-13 06:25:27

Okay strawb. HCG has gone down slightly - now down to the same level as 2 weeks ago so finally going in the right direction. Have to go bavk in 2 weeks. Thanks for asking.

Had to take m back to his own bed 6 times last night. Was awake between 1 and 3am and then the little bugger rawled in at 6am as well. Yawn...it's going to be a long day!

That sound hopeful eng hope it keeps going in the right direction.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 14-Nov-13 09:12:05

Glad to hear things getting better Engels thanks

Re putting M back to bed, i had a week of it last month (so maybe same time as M now) where it was just non stop! I gave in a few nights and let her sleek with me but I just end up having a crap sleep as she's such a fidget sad. Did go back to normal eventually!
I did keep her in with me the other night though. She was so tearful at bed time and just said she wanted to sleep in my bed so I agreed. Poor girl was burning up all night and struggling to breath through blocked nose. She had better sleep last night but looks dreadful this morning. Her eyes are so heavy like she's not slept in weeks and she's really pale. I hate seeing her unwell sad. I'm doing a ladies charity night selling my hats so she's going to be with sil all afternoon /evening but I know she will be fine, just wish I was with her

CheshireDing Fri 15-Nov-13 12:59:24

No ideas on how to get them to stay in bed Engels unfortunately. P did have the toddler coat side thing on for about 1 month but it got too hard lifting her back over it in the middle of the night. Now one of us sits in her room (and slowly creeps our way out) as she falls asleep. If she wakes up in the night/5am though she is out of bed and in our room like a rocket ! Then we have to sit and wait for her to fall asleep in her bed again. It has improved but mostly because DH has been doing it and she has a Gro Clock now too. Hope you are feeling a bit better/less knackered today.

Hope cat and 'boy bits' are a bit better in your house now Strawberry

Good luck with the sale Mummy

Yes thanks Chesh both of them are better. I debated over whether or not to take cat to vets but she was eating and seemed happy (and after a good feel of her leg) I left it and over a few days the limp's gone so I think it was just a mild sprain, silly old puss. Boy bits are also back to normal!

Realised this afternoon that today is a year exactly from W's big head op. Can't work out if it seems a long time ago or not!

RE getting out of bed, not a problem here yet as W is still in his cot bed. We're putting off the bed move as he still has loads of room, hasn't tried to climb out yet and still likes to sleep against the bars! He does have a duvet now though which he loves and always seems so pleased to snuggle under.

How did the sale go duck is S feeling better too?

PenelopeLane Fri 15-Nov-13 19:13:03

We have bed issues too! About a week ago I put A in his cot as usual (had tried to transition to big bed but gave up about 2 months ago) and about 15 mins he appeared in the living room - had no idea he was even close to climbing out and am just glad he didn't hurt himself! So, the cot's no longer an option

CallingAllEngels Sat 16-Nov-13 08:28:41

Got up 9 times on Thurs n7ght and had a meltdown on phone with dh yesterday when he rang up from work to ask how it was going (fuelled by lack of sleep but also the fact he did nothing in the house on his day at home so I spent the morning washing, cleaning, hoovering). He suggested I phone his mum to have m for a few hours so I could get on with my marking/reports and I shouted at him that I didn't need his mum's support, I needed his support.....an hour later he turned up at home and had taken a half day at work!

Managed to get a set of marking done while he took m out for an hour or two, but I lost it again in the eveneing with mand ddh's armchair parenting (sitting on his arse and barking orders at m from the sofa). In the end I had to leave the room for 10 minutes.

But...sleep! M woke T 11 and dh put him in bed and then he slept through till 6.30. I'd almost forgotten what it was like to have a full night's sleep (I was threatening to go and stay at a friend's for one night).

Reckon we're going to put up big bed this weekend, maybe it'll help.

CallingAllEngels Sat 16-Nov-13 18:21:31

Sorry for me me me post earlier (and awful typos on tablet).

DH is already reneging on our alternate bedtime nights as he's "done his back in" hmm sorting out the cellar this morning so has asked me to do it tonight. I told him okay, but he's getting up tonight if needs be (I have a 15k race tomorrow) and then he'll have to do Sunday and Monday night bed time. I need my sleep! I feel like a different person after one night of proper sleep (and my friend who lives up the road has a very tempting sofa and no toddler!).

God, enough to make me glad I'm not pg or dealing with another DC!

M is very attached to his duvet as well strawb If I put a sleeping bag on him (had to do so the other week as he had pooed all over his duvet) he was asking for it, so gave him a blanket.

Have wondere about getting a GroClock too chesh

Hope S is feeling better duck .

Okay, off to put M to bed and then I'll be back at my computer trying to get my marking and reports done no chance before the deadline on Monday morning. Have done half my classes, but the last one will take me ages as I have a project to mark for them.

TallulahPumpkin Sat 16-Nov-13 20:09:22

Straw Seb still in his cot too as he also ends up squashed against the bars! Cute isn't it? He's still in sleeping bags though as he is a wriggler (another reason why no 'grown up' bed yet). Pen shock at A appearing in living room. Presume you are on one level and he didn't come downstairs.

Engles hope things get better with the sleep and dh.

Proud mummy moment 1: Seb knows 4 letters! We have a set of foam bath letters and numbers and he loves holding them up one at a time and I tell him what they are. He's known Q for a week or so (although says coo) but last night I discovered he also knows C, P (for Peppa Pig!) and D (for Daddy)! I didn't even ask him what C was, he picked it up and proudly said 'See' clear as anything.

Proud mummy moment 2: This morning we were planning to go into Bath shopping:

Me: Sebby, where do you want to go for lunch
Seb: Hong Kong! [hmmm]

We went to Pizza Hut.

TallulahPumpkin Sat 16-Nov-13 20:10:39


PenelopeLane Sun 17-Nov-13 07:20:39

Engels good luck for the race and hope you get some sleep!

Tallulah yes it's only one level here! Thank goodness. A's in bed now crying "mummeeeee cuddle A come lounge mummeeeee cuddle" and I am trying to ignore him. Sleep is so hard at present - either he has a day sleep (like today) and does what he's doing now at 8.30pm or later, or has no sleep and spends the last couple of hours of the day being really hard work. Tricksy.

That's impressive about the letters! A only knows one - A, because it's both of his initials.

Chesh I hope the next few weeks goes ok for you and the HB works out! I got a home birth kit for L but didn't use it, although that was my choice in the end.

TallulahPumpkin Sun 17-Nov-13 22:15:48

He knows O and Z too!

CallingAllEngels Mon 18-Nov-13 08:00:18

Morning all (and evening pen).

grin at HK tallulah

M doesn't know any letters <lazy mama emoticon>

Well, I ache like no one's business today but managed to finish the race within time 1:38:01. Lost my running partner a few k in, but found her at the end after the finish line.

Finished my dreaded reports at 8.30 last night as well so can breathe easy today.

M managed to spew in our hallway yesterday morning so he and DH didn't come and watch me run though DH was already lining up the excuses

M crawled into our bed at 5am today and I just let him stay. DH got up on Saturday night and put him to bed last night - training is going well (and I mean trainging DH grin ).

That sounds like a good time eng I'm pretty sure I couldn't run that far at all! Hope M is feeling better now

W has been singing a made up song today on and off, it only had 4 words and was accompanied by him wiggling from side to side as he sang it, it went 'tidy,tidy, Billy horse' and was so funny grin I think it came about because he was pretending to be a horse (running around saying 'neigh') and then he closed a draw for me (he seems to find open draws offensive!) and I told him he was very helpful tidying me up.

Oh and tardis just because I can!

ipswichwitch Thu 21-Nov-13 10:04:57

Morning all!
Hope all goes ok for hb chesh. Apart for the fact the dr says its not an option for me, I don't think I could do it - MIL would be peering through the window/climbing over the fence in an effort to get in! At least in hospital all the MWs and locked doors can keep her at bay!!

engels in sorry you've been having such a tough time. thanks cake Hope Ms op gets sorted soon. We ended up doing alternate bedtimes which does work fairly well for us. N has even waking loads through the night, and in desperation we tried cc last night. It did not go well (hysteria from N, big argument with DH ending up with me stubbing my toes and sobbing my heart out!) we did manage to get him to sleep B&G sitting the other side of his room instead of having to hold his hand so some sort of progress at least. Maybe gradual withdrawal is the way forward.
We keep ending up with him in our bed which is not going to work when DC2 is here so are desperate to get it sorted. Not long now though - im almost 37 weeks and huge. Very glad to have finished work. Keeping N at nursery 3 days a week until new year as I've been struggling with a number of pregnancy related health issues and N is such an active little boy it's helping me get the rest I need.

CallingAllEngels Thu 21-Nov-13 18:59:18

ips I have exactly the same feelings about hb. We live in a semi and ILs are on the other side of the wall!

I'm actually feeling much better this week thanks ips. I think finishing reports and cathing up with my backlog of work has really helped. And finishing the race has given me a bit of a boost - I'm stornger than I think!

Alternate nights for DH and I is going better. He asked me to do his night on Saturday whihc I did, but then I made him do Sun and Mon (and ignored his whinging). Awful sleep Tues night (M was in our bed and wriggling around). Last night M came into our bed. I put him back once, then when he came back in told DH that he had to deal with it as I was working today and had a lesson observation from the Headteacher, and DH was at home with M.

I can't imagaine how knackered you must be ips ! Will you take him out of nursery in January? I'd never get M's place back if I took him out.

strawb M is an obsessive draw closer as well. I love how M;s imagination is beginning to come alive. he was pretending to be a toger on all fours the other night and this evening when I got home he called me a horse and sat on my back grin

Okay, working week is over. Going to treat myself with a beer and finally finish the magazine I started reading a week ago

ipswichwitch Thu 21-Nov-13 19:39:14

The plan so far is to reduce his days but still keep him in probably 1 day a week so we can be sure to keep his place. It'll also give me that day to just do stuff with the baby, plus he loves going there.
N also loves havin his "horsey rides" on DHs back - thankfully he doesn't seem interested in getting me to do it!

Come home to a letter from the health visitor about taking W for his 2yr check up - anyone want to place bets on how long I will have to argue with them to get out of this one! It took me at least 20mins to talk us out of his 1yr.

I just don't see the point in taking him when he's under the care of a full team of specialists at JR who are basically there anytime if we feel we need them (not that we have needed them thankfully) plus the appointment is on a Thursday afternoon and we're both at work!

CheshireDing Fri 22-Nov-13 13:24:57

Pene that happened here, I used to leave the baby gate open then thought I heard P on the landing - nearly killed myself trying to run up the stairs fast enough! grin.

Did you put the big bed up Engels? Congratulations on the 15k? (you sound far too active for saggy old me at the moment!). The GroClock has helped a bit I think, we say "night night" to the sun every night and P has made comments when she has come in to our room about the sun being up occasionally in the mornings. Long term I think it will work, not much yet though as she is usually awake early, yawn!

Tallulah love the fact S knows P is for Peppa Pig. Why are they all so into that damn Pig I really don't get it, and how the heck does he know about Hong Kong? grin.

Strawberry please can you send W up here to teach DH to close drawers, he seems to think they ALL have to be left half open. Drives me nuts.

Ips surely the sight of your naked bottom half would stop her coming in ? I would say you and Engels are very brave living next door to your MiL's ! Good luck with your birth though in a few weeks. I am knackered and still waiting sad P is not a fab sleeper either and I have been doing the slow retreat out of her room - moving closer to the door every 5 mins of so, then DH goes in if she wakes at night, rather than me as otherwise I get "I need a back rub/cuddle/big squeeze/snack etc"

Strawbs You don't HAVE to go to those HV appointments though, P hasn't seen the HV since the 6 week check-up. We said no to the 10 month check-up and so the 2 year one (even though they wrote to me twice). I couldn't see the point in taking her out of paid for nursery to go to a 20 min check-up where apparently when my friend went they stack blocks, need to say around 50 words and HV asks if they can see, hear and run hmm. I know what P can do and I would expect nursery to say if they thought she was behind in something. As you say the HV check-up will be so pointless considering the care he is under anyway is far more intense. <disclaimer I found our HV's rubbish and will not be having any checks with them for this baby> I have already told DH they can put the red book through the letter box then bog off grin

Proud Mummy Moment - P is officially potty trained. Although this does mean DH and I have to spend time dancing round a potty with a poo in it being dead excited whilst P shouts "it stinks" - nobody ever mentioned this part of Parenting to me !

CheshireDing Fri 22-Nov-13 16:55:46

Just to let you know ladies there has been a product recall on these monitors :-

Angelcare Movement and Sound Monitors With Sensor Pads, including those with model numbers AC1100, AC201, AC300, AC401 AC601, and 49255.

Yay for the potty training chesh we haven't really thought about it yet (and am secretly hoping nursery will do most of the hard work when the time comes) I agree re HV's all the ones I've seen have been useless I stopped going to clinic at a couple of months too. In the end it was surprisingly easy to cancel the check up I phoned up expecting a fight and instead got a very sensible receptionist who agreed it would be completely pointless! It does annoy be that they assume there will be a parent at home too, the appointment they sent was for a Thursday afternoon! Not much use if you work is it.

TallulahPumpkin Fri 22-Nov-13 23:59:53

Here's another one who loves horsey rides on backs (Seb, not me!) grin

Engles - well done on the run. Dh used to do loads so I'm used to the other side - standing in the freezing cold or having tea and cake in M&S cafe waiting for him to finish.

Straw Love the made-up song.

We've got a GroClock. Seb is a pretty good sleeper anyway but the other day he woke up early and wasn't bothered about it still being 'night time' but shouted 'Sun' when it came up.

Chesh Seb loves Peppa, I mean loves. I can sort of see it, it's so simple and easy to understand (with a few in-jokes for the parents. And how many jobs does Miss Rabbit do?!). I taught him to say 'Hong Kong' in response to 'Where are we going on Holiday?' as we are going there in Feb on the way to NZ. He's so sweet, he says it 'HonnnngKong'. He can say New Zealand as well now but that's a bit harder to understand unless you know what he is saying. smile
Well done on the potty training.

CallingAllEngels Sat 23-Nov-13 12:10:31

M has just been called 'spirited' at a work sinterklaas celebration by one of my colleagues. He tried to open the prop presents during the puppet show, take other kids toys, see how many biscuits he could stuff in his gob in one go, squirt drink out of a carton in the direction of the big boss headteacher, trash the microphone (honestly, who ties balloons to a mike stand? Just ASKING for trouble imo!) And stole cakes and drinks left on tables. ?.he's making sure no one will forget him.

I need a lie down....

PenelopeLane Sat 23-Nov-13 20:04:29

Ips if you can afford it I totally recommend sticking with nursery! A is still in 3 short days (9 - 3) and they are fabulous, although in the new year we will be changing him to a new nursery (his current one is only for under 2s and they've let him stay a little longer) and will go for two slightly longer days. Those days are great - catching up on sleep, going to appointments for L, and just spending time with the baby and recharging my batteries. Some days I feel guilty, but know it's for the best as it gives me much more energy for the other days.

A is watching Peppa right now as I type! He loooooves it and I am just trying to cap his TV watching at 1 hour a day. Is that a lot? I have no idea anymore. I don't mind peppa as he seems to learn from it in a way he doesn't from other shows because the themes are so basic. Although I didn't like it when he asked if he could drop my car keys down the drain AKA Daddy Pig. And is it just me or is he a bit of a knob??

A has finally made the transition to big bed but dropping the day sleep is a pain, as if he does sleep (and now he'll just put himself to bed some afternoons) he'll be up until 9. Can't wait until he's in a rhythm again

CheshireDing Sun 24-Nov-13 14:41:07

Had our No2 this morning ladies, about a week and a half early. Born in the lounge whilst P went shopping at the Trafford Centre with her Gran smile

Montgomery James (aka Monty), didn't have time to practice my hypno.

CallingAllEngels Sun 24-Nov-13 15:13:03

CONGRATULATIONS!!! thanks <we need balloon icons>

What a lvoely name as well. smile

Congratulations thanks love his name! Hope you are all well and enjoying those new baby snuggles.

PenelopeLane Sun 24-Nov-13 22:32:41

Congrats cheshire and I love the name. smile

MrsHende Sun 24-Nov-13 22:36:01

Fantastic news chesh. Hope all is well with all four of you, especially you and Monty.

Well done!

ipswichwitch Mon 25-Nov-13 10:38:50

Congratulations chesh!!! thanks cake wine
Fabulous name too.

Trying to muster the energy to go to asda - failing miserably at the minute. Already decided to treat me and DS to lunch out since I can't be bothered cooking these days!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 25-Nov-13 19:57:38

Huge congratulations chesh!! I think I really want to consider a home birth next time. How lovely!!!

CallingAllEngels Mon 25-Nov-13 20:36:41

M has been tantrumming and refusing to go to sleep for the last 2 and a half hours sad Looks like he'll be in with us tonight <sigh>

CallingAllEngels Mon 25-Nov-13 21:11:11

<whispers> He's finally asleep! Sssh!

TallulahPumpkin Mon 25-Nov-13 21:41:56

Chesh Congratulations! thanks Did P comes home from the park to a brand new baby brother? grin I bet she was wondering where he came from!!

Ipswich I hear you. I hate planning/cooking meals.

Engles good luck for M sleeping tonight.

PenelopeLane Tue 26-Nov-13 09:10:04

A came into our bed last night and was thrashing about with nightmares and yelling something about his pram. Tired today! I didn't expect that the 2 year old would keep me up more than the 8 week old.

I am not a great cook either and pretty much do the same every week. Oh well. Lucky DH isn't a massive foodie grin

ipswichwitch Tue 26-Nov-13 09:32:29

Must be something going around - N has been sleeping very badly lately. Not so much a problem getting him to bed, it's the number of night wakings. We've started with the gradual withdrawal method to get him to sleep since for some time he'd only drop off holding my/DHs hand. He'll not go to sleep with us sat in the middle of the room. That is progress but he's waiting umpteen times a night just screaming his little head off and needs a cuddle before getting back to bed. Last night was awful and I feel ill I'm that tired.

ipswichwitch Tue 26-Nov-13 10:14:05

He'll now go to sleep that should say.

CallingAllEngels Tue 26-Nov-13 16:22:06

Well, he fell asleep at 10 with me sitting in the cahir next to his bed and then slept through till 6.28. Crawled into our bed w minutes before the alarm went off!

DH's turn tonight grin

Hope everyone has a better sleep tonight. Touch wood W is sleeping ok at the moment I think the darker nights/better sleeping temperature suits him.

Felt so sad for him today, he went to nursery really looking forward to seeing his 'best' friend B and she wasn't there. All he kept saying in the car on the way home when we were talking about his day was 'B gone, B poorly' and he seemed so sad. When we got home we sat together and drew her a get well picture and that seemed to cheer him up a bit as he happily announced 'B no poorly now, picture' I hope she's back on Thursday! But I'll send him in with the picture too just incase she's not.

CallingAllEngels Fri 29-Nov-13 08:20:03

strawb that's so sweet!

How's sleep for everyone? Hit and miss here. Killer when I have to work the next day but it's weekend for me now <hoorah!>

Watching Bambi and may pop into town to finished off Christmas shopping later.

Had another hcg check yesterday and has fallen but still not at 0 yet so back in 2 weeks.

MrsHende Fri 29-Nov-13 20:27:07

Hello everyone! I hope all is well with the babies and the mummies.

We're beginning to feel more settled now in our new place, we moved in two weeks ago. Have now cleared out ikea and spent days making flat packs. So happy that L has her own room now.

Totally not organised for Christmas, my plan is to get off mn now and get shopping online...wish me luck I'm going in...!

CallingAllEngels Fri 29-Nov-13 21:29:04

Good luck mrsh. I did an order this afternoon and ended up ringing up to finish it as the shopping rush had slowed the online banking down so much!

CheshireDing Sat 30-Nov-13 19:57:47

Glad you got the HV to understand re your appointment Strawbs. TBF nursery have done the majority of potty training (as she is there 5 days a week) but we have been doing EC since last year, I just don't think she had the awareness properly of bowel movement to know she needed to go on the potty herself before now though. Am very proud of her she seemed to pick it up really quickly.

Although tonight she is driving me CRAZY with not going to bed sad sad

Ah that makes sense now about Hong Kong then Tallulah, I thought he had been doing some serious map reading grin. I think there was a thread the other week about Miss Rabbit probably being a tax dodger grin

P seems pretty pleased with Baby M, she asks every day for cuddles and kisses with him, hope the love lasts !

Glad you are in your new home for Christmas now MrsH

Fx for your next appointment Engels.

Anyone any suggestions as to what to do/say when you can't get them to bed ? P gives every excuse and is VERY whingy sad

CallingAllEngels Sat 30-Nov-13 21:22:10

A few times the last 2 weeks I have sat in the chair next to M's bed with my eyes closed and pretended to go to sleep I didn't nearly fall asleep last night oh no

This evening was DH's turn and it turned into a drama. M was screaming blue murder for half an hour and in the end I went up (DH was on the phone). M was really shouting for me. I spent 30 mins calming him down, then got stroppy and came downstairs, M kicked off again, DH managed to get him to sleep at 9pm.

Honestly, he used to be so EASY and now he's like the son of satan confused

I am impressed at P's verbal ability at offering excuses though chesh M just says 'NO!' and throws his toys out of his bed grin

Glad everything is going well with baby M.

M is just starting to get interested in the potty. When me or DH goes to the toilet he follows us, pulls his trousers down, sits on it then demands toilet paper (even though he's still got his nappy on!).

Morning everyone, we're back from a fabulous holiday and I feel like a new woman. Gran Canaria was lovely, warm sun, warm sea and nothing to do for two weeks it was bliss.

Cheshire congratulations on baby M (born on my birthday!) how's everything going? Love his name thanks

We're just about to move E into a big bed but I'm going to out a stair gate on the door of his room as otherwise he'll never stay in. Fingers crossed he likes it. He's taken to calling out with lots of excuses during the holiday of why he can't sleep. Water, then cuddles, then blanket back on etc. he only settles when I get stern with him and tell him off but I don't want to have to do that every night I feel like a horrible mummy sigh

Suddenly realised how near to Christmas we are and feel a little panicked. Will be madly ordering things over next few nights to try and break the back of shopping.

Am now 16 weeks pg and feeling so much better, work know now so can relax and not hold tummy in.

Hoping everyone has been getting more sleep sounds like these two year olds are all being monkeys wink

Glad you had a good holiday killa how did the big bed move go?

Loving getting Christmassy with W this year! We made and decorated salt-dough stars yesterday that are going to be given to grandparents for Christmas grin

PenelopeLane Fri 06-Dec-13 00:55:04

Hope everyone is well this week <waves>

I am so tired today on account of A climbing into my bed at midnight then spending night alternating between hogging my pillow and kicking me in the head. Usually we put him back in his bed if he comes in at that time (we let him stay if it's later in the night usually as are too lazy to fight it) but didn't have the energy, and at some point DH escaped to sleep in A's bed instead of ours for comfort reasons! Yup, that rod has been made for my own back and sometimes it hurts!

A's had a lingo explosion too, it's amazing some days what he says, especially when bossing me around. This morning he was looking for a car and said "Mum look for car and mum find car for A!" in bossy tone. I am trying to get him to be less bossy, although still working on that. Am aware that cute bossy 2 year olds can turn into precocious brats fairly quickly, and was mortified when we had guests recently and A told them they couldn't sit in his fave chair at the table, or "his" corner of the couch, or touch the baby ("only mum!"). Although his bossiness does teach me to be consistent in what I say to him though and how I act, as he told me off yesterday after I was cleaning up his cars by throwing them in the basket and he said, word for word what I always say to him, that you musn't throw cars and hard toys, you can only throw soft toys, "NAUGHTY mum" etc. blush Is anyone else being bossed by a toddler?

Hope all is well with M Cheshire

Strawb hopefully the BFF was back in creche! I never expected that they formed such attachments so young, we've recently decided to move A's nursery to a new one that his BFF will also be going to to make things easier on him (he had to change anyway as the current one is only for babies so went for the one she attends)

Killa your holiday sounds fab

Engels am imagining M on potty demanding toilet paper, is such a cute mental image

CallingAllEngels Fri 06-Dec-13 17:20:49

Pen, this sounds like my sleeping experience over the last few weeks (min u s a baby and dh has nowhere to escape to yet!). Hope it gets better.

TallulahPumpkin Fri 06-Dec-13 20:59:55

i've just eaten a whole bag of chocolate coins fblush.

CallingAllEngels Fri 06-Dec-13 21:10:15

Good work!

ipswichwitch Sun 08-Dec-13 09:19:08

Nice one tallulah, I had a whole Lindt chocolate reindeer to myself yesterday grin
No baby yet -39+1 now - but been back and forth to hospital as my bp is up. No other pre-eclampsia type symptoms but I'm getting checked a lot to make sure it's not developing. Tbh I think it's stress related - N's poor sleep is due to sleep apnoea which I think is caused by his large tonsils and adenoids. He's always been a loud snorer but its getting so much worse then his breathing stops. Every time it starts again he wakes up terrified and screaming so no sleep for anyone here sad back to Gp tomorrow to demand a referral (ent) because something needs done and I'm not accepting the "he'll grow out of it" line any more.

MIL not helping matters either by completely stressing me out. She had N yesterday while we were at hospital and informed us we HAD to be home by 6 as she had a table booked confused. I've another clinic appt tomorrow and she had a go at me because I said I'd rather she stay at home with N than drag him through hosp with us (not his favourite place!), and I would be fine on my own. She accused me of going in to have the baby and not telling her and refused to believe me and DH when we said its just a routine appt!

She keeps demanding to know why my bp is up and I said its probably stress and she says "well of course, N isn't sleeping so that's why" but no offer to help out - not that I should expect it but she had SILs DC to stay overnight several times and has never had N. poor DH is insisting in doing most if the night time stuff so I can rest but he's exhausted. I've sent him off to bed and we're having a pj day, which MIL will no doubt be all judgemental about when she appears later to interfere again

Sorry for the me rant! I'm quite irritable at the minute and she is really getting on my nerves. Don't know how much more I can stand before I snap and I really don't need this hassle now. I've not even finished Xmas shopping yet - Nobody can tell me what to get SILs so at this rate they're getting nowt! (That'll teach em for being all vague and unhelpful when I ask what they want, ha!)

Back to my coffee hopefully that'll sort me out - if not I have another Lindt reindeer upstairs smile

CallingAllEngels Sun 08-Dec-13 10:11:59

Oh ips, sounds awful. Lack of sleep is a real killer and in combo with mil shock

You need to relax(easier said than Dr I ne I know).

Oh ips that sounds horrible. Poor you and poor N that sounds really scary. Agree that you need a referral, GPs make me so cross when that try to fob people off with stuff like 'he'll grow out of it'. As for the Christmas shopping just leave it! You've got far more important things to do this year!

Ipswitch poor you :-( agree with strawberry about doctors and Christmas can you get vouchers for SIL's so you can relax?

Hope you're feeling a bit better and MIL didn't cause any more upset this afternoon.

CheshireDing Sun 08-Dec-13 22:03:06

Ips I hope your pj day went well smile is Mil staying until you have the baby ? You must have the patience of a saint !

PenelopeLane Sun 08-Dec-13 22:16:26

Ug Ips what awful and annoying things to deal with at such a late stage of pregnancy! Hope baby comes soon and N's sleep gets sorted. I hope the GPs take it seriously.

I am enjoying a quiet day at home with A in nursery and baby L asleep in the middle of the floor - I put her down for a play, then 5 mins later heard a wee snore. Not that am complaining, more time for chores/writing mindless net surfing

I am interested in nursery advice as am totally obsessed right now with what days to put A in in his new nursery in the new year - it's a new centre so I get to pick. I have totally lost all reason on the matter and have given it too much thought already and tied myself in knots, which leads me to think I need more hobbies or other ways to occupy my mind while a SAHM!

Anyway what do your LOs do if they are part time? His current nursery advice consecutive days, and what I can't decide is what would be better, 2 longer days, or three short ones? And if three days, do they HAVE to be consecutive?

Arg. I can't believe I am so indecisive about this and so paralyzed by indecision. What a middle class first world problem. I need to get out more grin

CallingAllEngels Mon 09-Dec-13 09:03:20

M has 2 consecutive days then a day with dh. I think consecutive days are good for continuity but, he also picks up bad behaviour from other kids for 2 days in a row.

Consecutive days isn't good ft or my mental health as if DH is doing stuff ay weekend (highly unlikely atm, but diy etc).means that I have 2-4 consecutive days and with ds acting like he is atm, it's too much and is driving me nuts!

I'm trying to change my working days but nursery are fully booked.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 09-Dec-13 11:12:25

Hello all!

Ips, sounds tough! My friends dd aged 4 has just been refered to have her tonsils out as they have been causing sleep apnea. I think she did need to push for it but was saying the same re the holding breath. Sounds scary!! Hope baby makes his/her entrance soon smile

How is everyone else getting on? All well here. S getting very excited about Christmas. Every night she asks if Santa is coming tonight and I need to say 'few more sleeps'. It's so sweet! I think though she has it in her mind that Santa will just appear in the house one night grin. I've almost got all her Xmas presents, few things to pick up from elc this afternoon.

I got a new job! The council one was a disaster from the start. They kept 'misplacing' my references and my PVG so I gave up. Figured if they are this unorganised with paperwork, what will everything else be like!! I'm starting with an after school club in the new year. It's only 3 afternoons just now but she's hopeful that it will go up to 5 as they year goes on. Looking forward to it smile

CallingAllEngels Mon 09-Dec-13 13:00:01

Congrats on new job Duck

M is nuts! Refused to sleep last night until about 10pm.

Currently refusing to nap upstairs.

M is getting confused between Sinterklaas, who has just left the Netherlands, and Father Christmas. Trying to put the tree up (well, it's up but haven't decorated it yet, was hoping to do it this avo when M was sleeping).

ipswichwitch Mon 09-Dec-13 18:52:05

Congrats on the new job duck thanks, hope it turns out well with 5 afternoons for you.

Gp has referred N to ent (thank god!). Soon as I mentioned sleep apnoea he was in total agreement so that's a huge relief. The breathing thing is scary and he's obviously terrified by it so something needs done.

BP was still up today but everything else fine so consultant put it down to stress and I'm back in on thurs for more monitoring and a sweep if LO doesn't make an appearance before then.

MIL still being a PITA. Poor DH keeps having to put up with me moaning and doing pretty much all the night time stuff, including putting N to bed as I can't manage it now and he really wants me to rest. Want to get him something/do something really nice to show him how much I appreciate him but I'm at a loss (my brain has stopped working!). Any suggestions welcome - keep em clean though, I don't have the energy for that sort of carry on!! grin

CallingAllEngels Mon 09-Dec-13 20:08:59

Men are so difficult to buy for ips! My family have been asking what to get dh for Christmas and I'm all out of ideas.

When I want to get in the good books I always make DH his favourite brownies or cheese scones (simple things and all that!) or I give him a lay in.

Okay, the big bed is up. M was making a bit of a drama earlier but it went quiet. Hope that he's asleep in his bed and not on the chair.

He refused to go to bed earlier. Was yelling in his room. When I went up I found that he'd pulled off his pj bottoms and half of his nappy, poo all over the floor and his hands, was only his romper getting in the way! <sigh> Still, at least he didn't get any on the bed, wall or chair (and we have wipe clean laminate). Silver lining and all that.

ArtemisiaofCaria Mon 09-Dec-13 22:37:04

Hi all, is Scheherezade! Just popping by briefly to let you know that C has become a dream child and is an absolute star and flew through his two year review today.

Also, we're trying for another, which means I've had to come off the meds which stopped the insanity that followed his birth and my hospitalisation, which means I am unfortunately becoming quite ill again. I'm diagnosed with a mixed manic state and struggling with the medication, just come off one which gave me twitches and onto another which is pretty horrible. It's safer than lithium to take, but it means the baby would need monitoring as would have withdrawal symptoms, I'd need a C sec as the medication lengthens labour, and absolutely no breastfeeding. So that sucks, but hooray for maybe a new baby!

Congrats on the job duck hope this one is more organised than the last!

That's great about the ent referral ips hope no2 puts in an appearance for you soon.

Wow arte that must have been a huge decision for you, hope it happens for you quickly. Glad to hear C is doing so well.

ArtemisiaofCaria Mon 09-Dec-13 23:04:46

Yes, I think if I don't conceive this next time around, we have a big decision to make whether to continue. I know it's a bit selfish coming back here after disappearing, but it feels like a nice anonymous place to talk baby stuff and baby issues!

I just really want a bigger family, and it's not fair that this illness, a few too many chemicals in my brain, are stopping that.

CallingAllEngels Tue 10-Dec-13 20:28:37

Hi Artemis

Well, M has turned into a monster since he turned 2. Though all my friend keeps telling me that that's what 2 year olds are like...wonder if she's wiped any poo off the floor recently?! (see my last post!)

We are ttc#2 as well. Must be scary having to change medication. DH is on ADs and struggles massively when dosage is changed or he forgets to take it. Doesn;t affect his fertility but does affect his <ahem> libido whihc means I feel like a raging nymphomaniac all the time tryign to seduce him!

Good luck with ttc and I hope your symptoms settle down as your body gets used to the changes in your medication. We've been trying since July, but had a mc 2 months ago and only just getting to the stage where we can try again (fx that hospital gives us okay, btu I reckon so since I had a BFN last week).

ArtemisiaofCaria Wed 11-Dec-13 15:18:09

Ah but I find the fun we have far outweighs anything bad, he's just so much fun!

It's a good sign that your DH struggles without the meds, shows that they are working! Is he ok when his meds are stable?

Sorry to hear about your mc, I hope you're ok x

Toddlers are so random! This afternoon for no apparent reason W decided that he wanted peas so he took himself into the kitchen, got a pan out of the cupboard, opened the fridge and stood staring at the draws saying 'cooking peas mummy'. I distracted him with making gingerbread we've had peas for dinner three times this week already!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 11-Dec-13 20:06:51

Strawberry, can't be a bad thing eh? grin
Nice to see you back art, hope C doing well!

Well I just went out and bought a gro clock as I've had enough of the early mornings. Today it was 4.30am! She took herself into the living room, put on the lights and started raiding btr you box. I blinked and looked at time on my phone then marched her straight back to bed! She had none of it so ended up in with me but wouldn't go back over. She seemed to take the concept of it in well so we will see..

Anyone else started or starting potty training soon? We have 2 pottys but she doesn't bother with them but know when she needs her nappy changed. She spied some peppa pants in asda yesterday and I said she could have them if she used her potty now. Said yes grin

Might give it a go on Sunday as we have no plans that day. She has a few potty books so knows the general idea. not holding my breathe

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 11-Dec-13 20:07:32

*raiding the toy box blush

ArtemisiaofCaria Wed 11-Dec-13 20:48:49

I'm trying to avoid the potty and just do toilet training. I've started only changing his nappy in the toilet, and tip the contents down the loo, get him to flush and wash his hands. And I'm putting him on it before a bath, and he did his first wee on the toilet tonight! I have friends whose kids are further than C, but I don't want to think about it until next spring really.

ArtemisiaofCaria Wed 11-Dec-13 20:49:17

in the bathroom*!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 11-Dec-13 21:46:12

I did think about just going straight to toilet but I have carpets everywhere and figured I could keep the potty handy in the living room so not such a mad rush. I'll see what happens on Sunday grin
And well done C on managing in the toilet!!

Ooh the dreaded toilet training. DH and I were only saying yesterday that it was probably time we thought about it properly. Haven't done anything about it yet though! Probably wait until the new year then start I think.

PenelopeLane Thu 12-Dec-13 06:27:22

I keep meaning to start toilet training, but keep finding reasons to wait - I think though that I'll wait until after Xmas and our holiday over new years to keep it easy (or maybe it's just another excuse to procrastinate) At this stage it's enough of an effort with the bedtime routine in the big bed

Nice to see you back art and good luck with TTC!

Did any of your LOs have wind quite late? Baby L still has it badly at 11 weeks, I keep expecting it to pass (and most people say it ought to by now), but it's not. The GP wasn't much help was useless with his 'they'll grow out of it' comments. So far the only thing that works is bouncing her on a swiss ball, which does get a bit tiring at times

ArtemisiaofCaria Thu 12-Dec-13 22:06:37

Ooh we won the mums net Reasons My Kid Is Crying competition! Well, we were in the top ten (4th). Hooray for my child's misery, haha.

CallingAllEngels Fri 13-Dec-13 13:10:11

M just ripped off his nappy, shat on his bedroom floor then rubbed it all over his hands. Beats taking a nap I suppose.

PenelopeLane Fri 13-Dec-13 23:57:37


Although I shouldn't be too shocked, the other day A ran off before I'd managed to wipe up a poo and managed to sit on the carpet in about 3 different places before I caught him, so had lots to clean up

CallingAllEngels Sat 14-Dec-13 07:49:38

I am so thankful we don't have carpets!

ipswichwitch Sat 14-Dec-13 20:25:58

Our baby boy arrived yesterday morning! Weighing 7lb13 after a 10 hour labour we're already home and doing fine (just very tired!)

ArtemisiaofCaria Sat 14-Dec-13 20:29:39

Congrats ips smile

CallingAllEngels Sat 14-Dec-13 21:42:20

thanks congratulations ips

CheshireDing Sat 14-Dec-13 22:02:18

CongratulAtions ips that sounds like hard work ! 10 hours, phew ! What's his name ? Did you buy anything for DH in the end ? Was he a Friday 13t h baby then smile

CongratulAtions duck on t he new job smile P is potty trained and using the toilet now but I wanted to ask whether they regress a bit sometimes ? She has had a few accidents this week at home and nursery - prior to this week she hadn't had an accident since the beginning of November though. I wonder whether it's new baby issues, although she does seem to love him.

There is lots of wind, vomiting, peeling on his own face and general trumping here Pene

Am impressed by the poo stories and glad they are not on my carpets smile

Aw congratulations Ips xxxxx

PenelopeLane Sun 15-Dec-13 03:11:29

Congrats ips!

Congratulations ips thanks

ipswichwitch Sun 15-Dec-13 09:59:30

Thanks smile
He's called Daniel (that took a day of debate!) - our lucky Friday 13 th baby. N is rather impressed since we got him a wee present and told him its from D so he's been wanting cuddles with him smile feeding every couple hours and I forgot how tiring this bit is - pj day today of sure!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sun 15-Dec-13 10:06:26

Congratulations ips!! Perfect timing for Christmas! Enjoy the snuggles thanks

Cheshire, from what I remember they can regress after a few months. I think the novelty wears off after a bit and so it's not front of their mind to be going all the time. Could be with baby too, it's a big adjustment but she looks like she's taking to it well!

CallingAllEngels Sun 15-Dec-13 10:20:57

PJ month that should read surely ips ! (and D is on our list of names for #2!)

ipswichwitch Sun 15-Dec-13 10:23:16

Pj month.... now I like the sound of that (should be the law frankly!)

CallingAllEngels Sun 15-Dec-13 10:24:29

think we really need to start potty training after the Friday ripping of nappy and oulling poo out of romper incident.

Any tips?

Have just bought some pull ups. Need to get some pants and vests rtaher than rompers now I think.

We have a potty upstairs and downstairs by toilet and DS already pulls down trousers and sits on it (then "wipes" his bum with toilet paper).


I feel lost!

Big bed is going okay. Wew have changed our tactics at bedtime, instead of just leaving him in room awake (whihc we alsways used to do) we are lying down with himwith light off and he's asleep within 10 mins.

But he's still waking up every single night and coming into our bed. The last two nights neither of us have heard him come in, just woken up with an extra body between us. I have to get through this week at school before I can think about putting him back (it killed me last time).

He did fall out of bed at about 9pm last night though and then carried on sleeping on the floor!

Lovely name ips glad N has taken to him well.

No idea on potty training eng leaving it till the new year here! Watching with interest though!

Lovely name Ipswitch smile

We're not going to think about potty training until it gets warm unless he shows a real interest, I've been told by so many mums of boys that it's 2.5-3 that they get it so may wait til I'm on maternity leave and try and crack it before the next one arrives. my plan is to learn from all of you and then try wink

Engels we've moved E into bug bed too but so far it's been a success, he only gets up when the alarm goes off. I'm not sure how long it will last for I think it might've the novelty. It's either that or the threat of returning to the cot which I have left up in the spare room ready for if he gets out of bed (tip from a friend).

Big obviously....blush

CallingAllEngels Sun 15-Dec-13 18:38:47

M is also nat napping durin b tha day anymore (he does 2 days at nursery but since poogate on Friday I'm relyctant to try it).

Still waiting with frustration to ttc. AF came back 2 weeks ago but HCG still above 0 on Friday so hospital said we have to wait sad

CallingAllEngels Sun 15-Dec-13 18:39:49

Not napping that should say (fat fingers)

Engels did they say how long for or why your levels have taken so long to go down? So frustrating waiting hmm

CallingAllEngels Sun 15-Dec-13 19:37:54

No obvious reason killa - had 3 scans and they couldn't see anything (so no ERPC). So nearly at 0 but not quite. Annoying given that AF is back and I am oving right now!

Really annoying. When do you get checked again? Will it be after Christmas now?

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sun 15-Dec-13 22:37:32

That is annoying Engels. I thought you would be well ok the way to ttc now. Fingers crossed you get the results you want soon thanks

I've got S in with me tonight. She's loaded with the cold and has a really chesty cough. Her temps been up and down all of yesterday and today so keeping a close eye on her. Neighbours little boy came down with the pox a few weeks back and S was with him few days before he broke out so I'm praying that she doesn't get it and I'm hoping this isn't the start sad. He's had it bad though. It breaks my heart to see kids unwell sad

PenelopeLane Mon 16-Dec-13 00:00:14

M and A must have been swapping notes about getting into bed at night with the parentals as it's a problem here too!

Daniel is a lovely name smile

I had a angry moment this morning - was pushing giant double buggy to take A to nursery, late. The sun came out about 2 mins before we arrived in creche and I didn't have time to put up sunshade (as was stopping in a minute anyway and had been walking in different direction previously so she wasn't in the light at all). As was walking across road to nursery a woman yelled at me, from her car that was waiting at the lights, that my baby's face was in the sun and I needed to do something about it. Hmph

CallingAllEngels Mon 16-Dec-13 07:17:42

Have to pop in and make my appt and pick up bloods form today but prob will be after Christmas, though we did a bit of sneaky dtd last week without protection as we were both so sure it would be 0 by now, so may get a telling off and a bfp at my next appt (but that's a long shot). It's 2 months ago now sad

Poos S Duck. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this winter will be better. This time last year I was just finishing my 2nd bout of flu but we've been fairly lucky so far.

Pen that's the type of thing I've only ever heard about on MN! Think I would be a bit angry as well!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 16-Dec-13 09:03:31

shock At pen. The nerve of some people!!! Makes my blood boil!

We are off to the doctor this morning. She's really wheezy in between coughing fits so I just want them to check her chest is clear. She's not eating or drinking much either sad

Fingers crossed Engels, you did have it bad last year. S was just getting over D&V this time last year. I'm hoping with a week and 1/2 before Xmas, she will hopefully be over the worst of it by then

CallingAllEngels Mon 16-Dec-13 10:54:01

Oops, that should say POOR S not poos S! I always think it's better to be safe than sorry. M had quite a few dr appts last winter because he was wheezing so much and the cough was on his chest (only turned out to be chest infection once!)

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 16-Dec-13 12:27:53

Chest and lungs all clear thankfully but he says she in for a rough few weeks sad. That's my other neighbour/friend text to say that her dd now has the pox so it's likely S is next. I'm on spot watch!!! She's all snuggled up on the couch watching peppa. My mums coming to get her for a few hours cause I have studying to do confused

CheshireDing Mon 16-Dec-13 20:10:21

Thanks Duck, makes sense that the novelty might wear off. I think I might get her some more stickers and do another sticker poster to make it more exciting again. We do still dance around when she does a wee on the toilet though grin.

Engels P just had leggings and pull ups for a month so they were easy and quick for her to pull down, nursery put her on the potty every 15 mins or so and gave her a sticker every time she did something on the potty and we just copied the same in the evenings and weekends (so nursery coped for most of the hard work) grin

We made a big exciting thing out of going and buying knickers and pull ups with characters on she was interested in too. Sorry about the HCG levels too Engels sad Maybe you are already pregnant now after your sneaky one ! smile

Pene hope you gave her the "look". Did you decide what to do about nursery?

Day 4 of my new way of trying to get P in bed (as desperate for a none screaming bedtime) is working well, well impressed with the Kissing Technique which I found on MN.

P saw Father Christmas at the weekend then said "I don't like Father Christmas, I asked Father Christmas for dolly" hmm fickle child !

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 16-Dec-13 23:36:26

Yes, I think it also starts to slip our minds to be asking so frequently as well but sounds like she's doing great!! What a relief to only be changing one tiny nappy! We didn't get round to trying on Sunday as she was quite unwell. Will wait till after new year now.

So far still no spots. She fallen asleep in her own bed thankfully. I've got a really awful headache and need sleep tonight. It's been a hellish past few weeks for sleep, don't think she's slept right through for almost 2 weeks now and it's proper caught up with me confused

Duck how's S doing?

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 18-Dec-13 21:10:04

She's not too bad today killa. Had a good sleep last night with only one wake up at 3am then slept with me till 7.30am. It was much needed!!

Another friends dc got the pox now. I'll be very surprised if she escapes it now.. confused

Hope she doesn't get it over Christmas duck horrible though the pox is its probably better for her to get it now and get it done (not suggesting you expose her to it on purpose just if she does get it at least she had it then)

W has his Christmas party at nursery tomorrow and when we picked him up today they mentioned Christmas dress up. We have no Christmas dress up clothes for him at all not even a Santa hat! I'm going to look like a mean mummy aren't I! Trouble is all the Xmas jumpers in the shop won't go over his head.

Took W to see a Christmas theatre show at my work yesterday and he loved it! Sat for the whole hour and watched, I was really impressed I thought I'd end up having to take him out.

TallulahPumpkin Sat 21-Dec-13 20:58:05

Congrats Ips thanks.

Engles I loved the story about waking up to a sleeping (I presume) toddler in the bed!

We're not starting potty training until we get back from NZ - don't fancy 4 12 hour flights with no nappies! Besides he loves sitting on his potty and knows what the toilet is for but I just don't think he's ready yet.

Mummy hope S didn't get the pox. What's the incubation period?

Chesh what's the kissing technique?

All my plans for lovely crafty Christmassy things with Seb have gone to pot since I came down with tonsillitis. I struggled to get into work all week as I was convinced it was just the start of a cold and finally called in sick on Friday (missing the work xmas lunch - £22 down the drain) and doc confirmed it is tonsillitis. Funny thing is only started to feel ill once I knew what it was! I had great plans to make Christmas cards, a hand-print christmas tree and decopatch decorations with Seb (a new craft shop has just opened in town and I am desperate to have a go!). Oh well. I guess they will go away until next year. I might get the cards done.

Seb's really coming on with his letters. He knows:
A, B, C, D, E, F (sometimes), G (sometimes), H, I, J (a recent addition), K, L, M, O, P, Q, R, S, T, W, X, Y, Z fsmile.
We've linked some to people he knows (M for Mummy etc) but some are completely random.

TallulahPumpkin Sat 21-Dec-13 20:58:52

Oo, Straw how did it go with the Christmas dress up? Did you find W anything to wear?

Wow tallulah that's great going on S's letters we're no where near that! I sent W in wearing red and green smile it was the best I could do! He refused to see Santa too, said he was 'loud and scary' bless him. He still got a present though and his best friend stayed with him and didn't go in either!

MrsHende Sun 22-Dec-13 20:24:17

Massive congratulations Ips, hope all is well!

I would like to nominate myself for the terrible mother of the year award please. L has an infected finger that came up yesterday evening. We took her to the chemist today to get some Savlon and asked the pharmacist to have a wee look. She referred us to OOH. So, we went in with a sore finger and came out with 6 different prescriptions!!!! I mentioned a sore nose, turns out that's infected too. She had a bit of a cough while in the surgery so the doctor had a listen to her chest and she's got a chest infection and a wheeze ('we won't call it asthma yet'). So, two oral antibiotics, a cream antibiotic, steroids, a dressing and paracetamol.

Poor wee lamb, although in my defence she is running around and singing as normal - to the extent that the doctor was laughing at her and saying 'Hey, you're meant to be ill!'.

Please wish us luck with the medicines, one ab to be given 3 times a day, the other 4 times a day, the steroid is a soluble tablet which she takes 4 of every morning and cream on 4 times a day. Some with food, some on an empty stomach...I may need a timetable! And the antibiotics are both 2 week courses.

Anyway! What is Santa bringing all our babies? L is getting My First Baby Annabelle and a second hand (free!) trampoline.

Blimey mrsH it's amazing how kids just keep going isn't it! Hope L is better soon.

It finally happened! After two years and two months W pooed in the bath today!

MrsH hope L is better for Christmas.

E has redecorated his bedroom in poo twice in three days shock....would much rather a poo in the bath at the moment! Now on backwards nappies/ onsies attack to stop access....

We're giving E a micro scooter very exciting just tried to wrap it.

Hope you all have a very merry Christmas with our two year olds xxxx

CallingAllEngels Tue 24-Dec-13 22:10:23

Killa that made me laugh and made me feel better!

Just made it into Dover before they closed the port yesterday. Was very glad to be tucked up in bed last night.

Merry Christmas everyone!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 24-Dec-13 22:21:53

Just popping in to wish everyone a very merry christmas! Hope you all have a lovely day, I can't wait grin xx

Merry Christmas grin Santa (otherwise known as the combined efforts of both grandma's) has most certainly been here! The tree looks amazing can't wait for W to see it in the morning.

ArtemisiaofCaria Thu 26-Dec-13 18:44:57

Hope everyone has had a good christmas. xx

CallingAllEngels Fri 27-Dec-13 18:37:40

Had a lovely Christmas in the UK. Now back home surrounded by mounds of presents and bags of washing.

M was so funny on Christmas day. When he saw our stockings he went "Ooooooooh!" just like he does when he sees something really yummy. But on Boxing Day he started crying and wailing "presents!" when he saw there were no stockings at the end of the bed!

He is in love with the talking Thomas toy he got from my auntie (though we had to 'lose' it for the trip home...don't think we could have dealt with it in the car for 3 hours!)

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 28-Dec-13 21:57:12

Glad you had lovely time in uk engels!
Can't believe that's Xmas over for another year!!! Just think what it will be like next time around when we will have 3 year olds shock

S had a great time and received so many lovely gifts. Sorted out her room the other day to make space for it all!!

Things all good with us. I start my new job a week on Monday and really looking forward to it. Feels like forever since I was working. I feel bad for saying it, but I'm looking forward to a few hours away from S blush and doing my own thing.

Things re her dad are still going ok. He came over on Monday with gifts for her which went down well. His parents gave her some things too so it's made me feel like introducing them to her is the next step.. Perhaps in the next few months it's something I'll consider. We are talking every day and I feel like I'm reconnecting with him all over again. I don't honestly know what to make of the situation with 'us' (taking S out of it). Sometimes I get the impression that he wants more from things and other times I don't. It messes with my head more than it did before he was even involved again sad. I'm struggling to keep our talking to just being about S. It's hard!!!

PenelopeLane Tue 31-Dec-13 07:41:13

Hope everyone had a good Christmas and hope you all have a happy new year! 2014 starts for me in 3.5 hours and I am just hanging at my ILs as part of our yearly trip to see them so no big festive events here, although it is a lovely summer evening and A is very tired after a trip to the beach.

Duck that must be so confusing! And there is nothing to stop you talk like friends I suppose, but it must be hard. Being friends with exes is hard enough let alone when there are children!

I don't know if it's a sign of being old but in 2013 two friends have separated from their DHs and they have kids, it's not something that had happened in our set yet and is all very sad, especially the idea that it will happen more in the future

Cheshire we are starting A in a new nursery in the new year and will do Tue, Wed, Thurs as short days. How are things with M, has P taken it ok? A still ignores the baby

engels Did you go to Fiji during your trip?Or is it Killa? We're thinking of going and looking for recommendations

MrsHende Wed 01-Jan-14 09:19:29

Happy New Year everyone! Hope you all had a good night and had fun whether you were partying hard or in bed by 11pm like I was!

I hope 2014 brings you all happiness and health. Xx

Happy New Year smile hope 2014 is good to us all!

We took all the Christmas decorations down yesterday and W keeps randomly looking about and saying 'Christmas down' is a sad voice. He really liked all the lights!

Started my new year having an argument with our neighbour at 1.30 in the morning when they had been getting louder all night and had ignored DH's polite request to turn things down 10 mins before - I was not polite!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 01-Jan-14 15:03:35

Happy 2014 everyone!!!

(Our babies turn 3 this year...)
Just wanted to get that in grin

PenelopeLane Fri 03-Jan-14 09:48:17

Arg three!?!?!?! There is nothing like having kids to make time feel like it's moving so quickly

CallingAllEngels Fri 03-Jan-14 10:11:55

I HAVE to make sure M gets outside today. We have spent so much time the last 2 weeks either inside or in the car and t u is boy badly needs a run around.

3? Will he have stopped saying "No!"to everythign I ask him by then?

Sleep a nightmare here. He wakes up when we go to bed every night now and is a stealthy ninja when it comes to sneaking into our bed at 3am. I just wake up and he's there. I can't see a way of breaking the cycle, especially when I don't hear him come in anymore.

TwosaCrowd Sun 05-Jan-14 09:18:36

Art/scheh here. BFP!

MrsHende Sun 05-Jan-14 09:20:10

Congratulations two/art/sche!!

Fingers crossed 2014 is a good year for all of us ttc - you've got the ball rolling!

CallingAllEngels Sun 05-Jan-14 09:26:03

Congrats scheh

Had blood test results on Friday and we're still not allowed to ttc yet. Have to go back for another test in 2 weeks so will miss ov this month (though we had already decided to take a break this month...since everything is still ongoing I feel like I haven't had a chance to deal with the mc emotionally).

How is everyone? DS is full of beans. Raring to get outside (just waiting for DH to get his backside out of bed).

yy to starting to feel old pen. Was my birthday last week as well, so NY is always the timewhen my bones start to creak and I frantically go and buy eye cream!

TwosaCrowd Sun 05-Jan-14 16:50:20

Thanks. I've namechanged in case anyone IRL recognises me as obviously we've got to keep it quiet for another 8 weeks - which seems like an age away!

Feeling very nervous after what happened last time. I am on meds which are keeping me stable atm, and I don't really want to stop taking them, although there is a risk to the baby being on them. Nothing long term developmentally as far as I can tell, but they can lengthen labour, and baby may be born with withdrawal symptoms so need special care. I've also decided not to breastfeed this time, so I can go back onto the meds asap. I will probably feed for the first week myself, then switch to FF. It's a big improvement that I am willing to say/do that.

Better go, C has pushed his rocking horse up to the TV cabinet and has climbed up… hmm

Congrats two smile

That sucks eng hope you get the all clear soon

Good luck for the new job tomorrow duck

Has anyone else had a massive language jump? W has suddenly started talking in proper sentences (and won't shut up!) he's also pronouncing words much better and actually putting l's in words like please.

AwkwardAnnie Sun 05-Jan-14 22:17:46

Hi all, Long time no speak. If I come on MN I get dragged in for hours and I'm trying to keep off the internet and do more crafty things instead.

Just had a quick catch up read. Congrats on the BFP and good luck for those who are trying/trying soon.

Christmas here was quiet. We went to BIL's on Christmas Day and I started feeling ill. I came down with flu, and I'm still ill. I'm pretty sure it's turned into a chest infection over the weekend so I'm going back to the doctor tomorrow hopefully. I've spent most of the past fortnight flaked on the settee and doing anything leaves me exhausted.

I was just coming on to see how many are in beds rather than cots now, but S has woke up... so I'm off to sort him instead....

TallulahPumpkin Sun 05-Jan-14 22:20:17

Engles <<hugs>> take a bit of time whilst you are able.

Hope everyone had a great Christmas and New Year.

Three? Really? Wow.

Seb is putting sentences together, not huge ones though. He's also discovered 'locklot buttons' over Christmas, and wanted some for breakfast! smile Oops.

He got a tea-set for Christmas and loves serving tea and cake for everyone. He also got some play food so we often have carrot, apple or mushroom 'tea'!

We just had a 10 second power cut while W was in the bath, thought he would freak I can hear him upstairs demanding 'again,again' grin

Meant to ask how did the first day go duck? Hope it was good

CallingAllEngels Mon 06-Jan-14 20:13:41

grin strawb

We don't have a proper bath, only the baby bath which M only just fits into because he's so huge and everytime he comes into the bathroom with me he sits in and announces "M in bath!"

I also have to turn the mirror light on when I go into the bathroom because he can reach the light switch (we have a few steps down into our bathroom) and turn it off but not on.

M's in abed annie though he doesn't stay there for most of the night

AwkwardAnnie Mon 06-Jan-14 20:53:41

Hello again.

As perfectly demonstrated last night. S wakes at some point most nights still, and we end up sleeping on the settee as it's the only place he'll settle. I'm thinking if I get him in a bed then I can just get in bed with him, then sneak back to my own bed once he's asleep. Taking him downstairs wakes him up fully and he starts demanding "apple" and "dink" also boob but I resist that unless he's really screaming, I only feed him to sleep now.
DD is desperate to have a high sleeper, so it would make her happy too.
I just need to buy some cot sides (and decide on a high sleeper)

S is also obsessed with lights, and we have to find some lights to turn off before bedtime or he had a paddy. He hasn't yet worked out that if he climbed on the back of the settee (which he regularly does, it's a low chesterfield) then he'd be able to turn the living room lights on and off to his heart's content... until a fuse blew.

S has also discovered "chocchoc" over Christmas and was demanding it for breakfast, he's particularly fond of ferrero roches, but DH got 4 boxes so there's plenty to share.

TallulahPumpkin Mon 06-Jan-14 21:43:49

Straw that's so funny.

Annie How long before he works that one out smile. Seb loves turning lights on and off too. Luckily he can't reach any, but one of his favourite things is to be held up so he can turn them on and off, especially dimmer switches! How are you feeling now? Seb still in a cot here. He's staying in there until he can climb out or hits both ends!

Seb is picking up so much stuff. I didn't realise that I tend to say 'How about...?' so much. When deciding what to read or what to eat Seb goes "Urrrrrmm, ow bout......." whilst having a rummage. It's so sweet.

Mummy how did today go?

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 07-Jan-14 20:03:53

Hello ladies, thank for all well wishes. Today was very good, but of a shock being back at work after 6 months 'off' but I'm sure I'll soon get into swing of it. I just need to be super organised as they days I work are the same days as toddler group and I don't want to start missing it. So my plans is to be out the house by 9.15am with everything we both need for the full day. Toddlers is on till 11.30am then we will just go straight to my mums as she's closer to toddlers and my work! Would be to pushed for time to go home, have lunch then drop S off and be at work for 2pm. She has almost dropped her nap now so it means that as soon as we are home at night she's straight into bed. I had dinner at my mums tonight and usually ill bath her and put into pjs there so when we get in I don't need to start with all that.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 07-Jan-14 20:07:32

Hit send to soon!!!!

Annie, S has been in a bed since the summer only as a friend was getting rid of a toddler bed and it was too good to pass up. She sleeps well in it, better than I expected really. I started off using a toddler duvet that was fine through summer but the past few months I've been using a full size single duvet but turned it so it's over her bed long ways. The width of it is perfect length and I can then tuck each end right under her bed to stop her kicking it off in the night. I'm sure that was what was causing the night wakes as she was cold.

How is everyone else? How are the new mummy's getting on?! grin

CheshireDing Wed 08-Jan-14 10:21:37

Happy New Year everyone smile

Tallulah the Kissing Technique I read about on here is basically that once they are in bed you say to them "Lay there quietly I will come back in 1 minute to give you a kiss" (then you come back in 2 mins, then 3 mins etc up to 5 mins). With P I now sit on the landing and say to her "if you get in to bed I will come in and give you a kiss/rub your back etc in 2 mins". Excluding 3 nights out of the last 3-ish weeks we have been doing it she has just got in bed and waited, it's bloody amazing ! (prev spent about an hour arguing and screeching every night). I try to keep it vague and just say 2 mins as a vague thing as she doesn't understand the length of time etc. I usually only have to go back in 1 other time and it can be for a kiss/move duvet up etc, or she might want DH to go in instead after "2 mins". Seems to be working much better so far and I don't have to sneak/crawl out of her room because I stay on the landing now.

Congratulations Twosa, that's was quick ! wink

MrsH how's the new house, did L like Baby Annabelle? P got Baby Emily off Father Christmas and is obsessed with her ! P was also very confused about how Father Christmas put new pi's wrapped up on her bed on Christmas Eve (when she put those specific one's on she says "from Father Christmas, how?") grin

Pene P LOVES M and is constantly kissing and wanting to cuddle him and if he cries "M is crying", "M is okay now" etc. Not sure if it will last when he wants her toys though.

Annie P has been in a bed for good while now and we too have issues with Chocolate now after Christmas and she wants it for breakfast sad

Glad work going okay Mummy

Fx for you Engels ttc when you are ready.

How's the bump Killa ?

M is a MONSTER baby, he was 7lb 1.5 oz when born 6 weeks go and is now 11lb (fat git), now wonder the car seat weighs a ton with him in it! He sleeps lots too which is so different to P and at least I can get some stuff done at home. I feel so awful recently though and feel like I am shouting at P all the time, if she doesn't get out and doing stuff every day (and nursery was closed over Christmas) she starts climbing the furniture and getting in trouble and I am not a very patient person. I felt so upset yesterday for shouting at her I was crying and she came and asked me if I was alright and gave me a hug (which then made me feel even more guilty). She is at nursery today and at least dancing/singing classes etc start again this week for the days she is off < awful crap Mother emoticon > sad

TallulahPumpkin Thu 09-Jan-14 21:52:37

Cheshire Ah, that makes sense.

Forgot to mention the other day, a funny/awful story. DH was trying to shift Seb upstairs to his bath. From upstairs I saw Seb by the stair gate and heard a little voice say what I thought was 'Bollocks'. A bit shocked, I said 'What did you say?', so Seb repeated 'Bollocks'. We both told him off but as he was coming up the stairs with dh he kept saying, 'bollocks, bollocks, bollocks' all the way up. I had to run into our room so he wouldn't see me laughing. I could hear dh giggling as well as he tried to tell Seb off. I can only assume he picked it up from one of the older kids at the childminder. He also repeated dh say 'Shit' the other day blush.

TallulahPumpkin Tue 14-Jan-14 22:19:35

Did I break the thread? Hope you weren't all too shocked at my toddler's foul language, lol.

grin tallulah it wasn't that bad!

W had started waking up at 6 again after months of waking at 7. I'm not used to it anymore and I'm pretty sure he needs the extra hour because he's been grumpier than normal but he won't go back to sleep at that time in the morning. We're snuggled on the sofa with Abney and Teal at the moment!

PenelopeLane Wed 15-Jan-14 08:55:04

I have been meaning to post for days but haven't managed to complete a sentence yet! How is everyone? grin at S's swearing although is a reminder to me not to swear around A or say things I don't want him repeating.

Cheshire I tried the kissing technique and it worked! Thanks!

Duck how's settling into the job going?

I'm good, probably helped by the giant bowl of icecream sitting in front of me grin It's been a tough evening with L being super windy and crying a lot. People say it's supposed to clear at 12 weeks so feeling a little hard done by her wind is still here well past that, and wondering if it's worth going to the gp again. Although am glad I didn't know 3 months ago she'd still be windy now, once when she was about 3 weeks old someone said it would clear by 12 weeks and I almost threw something at them as hated the idea it could stick around for even that long. I've looked at my diet etc but nothing seems to help, and the 2 GPs I saw earlier pretty much said there's nothing to be done about it.

That aside things are good though, settling A into his new creche and he loves it. It's almost remarkable - the old creche was lovely and I thought he was happy there but he's so much easier to drop off now. I don't know if it
s the novelty, or that he was under stimulated there (it was only for under 2's and they'd let him stay a few months due to L being born as he turned 2)

MrsHende Thu 16-Jan-14 19:55:29

Tallulah, your sweary story made me laugh! At Christmas L was talking to my sister's boyfriend when he started laughing at something she'd said, we asked her to say it again and, clear as day, out she came with "sweaty cock". She then repeated it, trying to get her meaning across by saying it loudly, then whispering, then as a question "sweaty cock?". We had tears pouring down our faces with compressed laughter. We have no idea at all what she was saying but it was something to do with the measuring tape she was playing with!!

We're having constipation problems at the moment, poor wee lamb has only had 4 poos since the middle of December. She's on lactulose and senna at the highest doses. However, today she did a poo at nursery, happy days!

Hope everyone is well, we're loving the new house, the space feels so luxurious!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 16-Jan-14 20:58:21

All these toddlers with funny words!!! grin. It really shows that they hear everything! I remember when I was about 4 I said 'oh fuck' and my mum and dad just looking at me! No idea where I heard it or why I said it!

Pen, my friends dd struggled with wind until about 4 months. Think it was that she was getting far more foremilk and not enough hind. Something along those lines!! Hope it settles soon!

Job going well thanks. I'm enjoying my afternoons back in the work world and S is having fun with my mum and dad. She's completely dropped her nap now so is in bed as soon as we get home at 7.
We also started potty training on Monday and so far so good! We got the toilet insert seats and I don't think she looked comfy using potty, so it's became a big novelty and seems to be working. She hadn't until today managed a poo on the toilet, think she was scared to try and last night waited till I put her night nappy on but she done it today with my mum.

MrsH, I always ment to ask you, did the HV ever say anything else about her weight?! I was noticing in S book that she hasn't gained any weight in 7 months. I might try get to the clinic soon to speak with HV to see if it's anything to worry about. She still eats plenty and has tons of energy so I'm sure all fine!!! grin

TallulahPumpkin Thu 16-Jan-14 21:29:00

Pene Mmmm, ice cream.... Can't help on the wind situation I'm afraid. Other than perhaps eat more ice cream!

MrsH lol at sweaty cock!
We're the opposite with poos (tmi alert!).
Seb is doing loads (6 the other day) and they are really yucky. Is it teething time again? He seems happy otherwise so I'm not too concerned. So glad we've not done potty training yet, would not have to deal with that!

He's got a bit of a thing about spiders at the moment, and being scared (not sure if he's scared of the spiders or something else). sad

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 16-Jan-14 22:08:52

Tallulah, very yucky ones here! How many teeth does seb have? S has all bar 1 bottom one and still to get big back molars. She just has this random gap in her mouth grin

I love some of the funny words they come out with! Although I was very glad W got the hang of pronouncing 'can't' quite quickly for a few days it sounded like something a lot ruder! Noticed today that some of his 'babyish' words are just him being lazy though, he said his friends name perfectly and then went back to his 'original' name for her.

Glad you are loving the house mrsH makes up for the horrors of packing and unpacking doesn't it!

No back 'proper' molars here yet I'm waiting for that one to hit us soon. I think we're a way off of potty training too (his nursery key worker agrees which means I've stopped second guessing myself on the issue too) he wants pants but just can't tell me when he needs to go. He understands when I tell him he needs to he just can't tell yet so we'll hold off for a while.

CallingAllEngels Fri 17-Jan-14 07:32:09

M randomly shouts "fucker" every few weeks (we can thank dh for that!)

TallulahPumpkin Sun 19-Jan-14 14:15:32

Got to share this with you ladies....

This morning, as we were having a lazy Sunday morning in bed, Seb gave me a kiss and said "I love you'! Twice!

I did ask him later if he loved me and he said no (usual response!) lol. I was beginning to wonder when it would happen, before this we've only had 'I love carrots', 'I love potatoes' and 'I love cheese' grin.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sun 19-Jan-14 21:20:26

Aww grin

Me and S say to each other 'love you to the moon and back (and she continues) and all the twinkly stars!'

Melts my heart every time smile

PenelopeLane Fri 24-Jan-14 19:58:07

Aw those ways of saying I love you are so sweet! A doesn't say that but is big on cuddles right now.

I was wondering if any of you were still doing swimming with your toddlers? A did them as a baby, but stopped last year. It's not as easy to take him now but I want to re-enroll him at the point they start learning properly or learning real skills but not sure when that is if anyone has any advice?

We haven't been swimming for ages pen W hates it. I don't think it's the water because he loves the bath. I think it's the noise he seems quite sensitive to loud noises.

MrsHende Sun 26-Jan-14 11:35:59

Ladies, please cross everything for me, BFP this morning! Let's hope this one is a sticky one.

Hope everyone is well. We are planning on building an ark soon - anyone else totally hacked off with the rain?

Yay MrsH fx here for you grin

CallingAllEngels Sun 26-Jan-14 15:34:59

YAY! Great news mrsh ! Fx for you. I finally got all clear 2 weeks ago from hospital but we are holding off ttc for this month as I really want to make best friend's wedding in early October (over in UK so have to be able to travel).

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 27-Jan-14 21:18:01

Fab mrsh!! Keeping everything crossed for you!

MrsH that's amazing WOO HOO! Will keep fingers crossed for a sticky bean x

TallulahPumpkin Thu 30-Jan-14 13:55:39

MrsH Fingers crossed for you....

Engles Yay.

ipswichwitch Fri 31-Jan-14 09:52:43

Fab news mrsH and two
Hope all goes well engels

Can't believe D is 7 weeks already. N is a fab big brother - wants to cuddle him, kisses him, tries sharing his toys and he's very protective. Both boys got conjunctivitis thus week and although D isn't bothered about his eye drops, N gets upset on his behalf and gives me a smack and telling off then rubs D on the head and says "all better!" grin
Christmas was lovely just the 4 of us and N had a great time. D has gone from 7lb 13 to 12lb 5 on Monday, proper fatty!!

Fab big brothering from N ips very cute smile glad he's taken to D so well.

Had an email from W's nursery yesterday saying one of the kids has been diagnosed with scarlet fever so crossing fingers here that W manages to avoid it!
Went to pick him up yesterday and found him cuddling the leg of his 'best friends' mum! While his friend hugged him - funny little thing that he is. He really loves this little girl and she loves him back its so cute, I had no idea they could make friendships like that so young the pair of them are usually inseparable all day!

TallulahPumpkin Sun 02-Feb-14 14:29:15

Ips Aw, N sounds like an amazing big brother.

Straw Hope W doesn't get it. Their little friendships are so cute aren't they?

We went pre-holiday shopping to Clark's Outlet Village yesterday. Added it all up when we got back and we managed to spent over £300. Oops. Need to go on a major belt-tightening when we get back. Still, I was very pleased with the 3-in-1 coat (fleece, waterproof or both) I got for Seb; £60 down to £20! No doubt will also come in handy for when we go to the Lake District in August as well! We also got some cute little canvas shoes with diggers on, so they went down well with Seb.

He's majorly into Lightening McQueen at the moment and is currently watching 'Cars' for the fourth time in about a week. It would be more if he had the choice. grin.

CallingAllEngels Mon 03-Feb-14 08:05:31

Tallulah, M's film of choice is bambi though dumbo, thomas the tank engine and scooby doo are close runners up!

today I am going to sort out the bags of clothes we've been given and the boxes of too small clothes waiting to go up in the loft. People keep giving me stuff and I have nowhere to put it all!

CheshireDing Thu 06-Feb-14 01:16:22

I love the funny things they are all saying grin

P told DH he was ridiculous the other week and she said to me "you did good wee wee on the toilet Mummy, you want sticker?" [Smile] another favourite is "oh for goodness sake" and she shouted at the dog that it was dangerous to go up the stairs on his own - poor guy was half way up at the time so stood there all confused.

Very pleased for you mrsh and fx for you too Engels hope DH is feeling good at the moment

How are you feeling killa ?

CheshireDing Thu 06-Feb-14 01:17:47

tall where are you going on holiday?

TallulahPumpkin Thu 06-Feb-14 20:52:40

Chesh lol, how funny. Did you get a sticker? Poor dog.

We're off to New Zealand for a wedding, via Hong Kong! Can't wait. In 3 weeks we'll be about to pick up our campervan in Auckland. Let's hope Seb behaves himself!

grin chesh very cute with the sticker. W tells the cat off randomly too and finds it hilarious when she attacks the fish tank.

Has anyone else's little ones started asking 'why?' W is doing it all the time now. I tell him something or ask him to do something and I get 'why?' and it goes on for ages!

PenelopeLane Fri 07-Feb-14 20:57:08

Have fun in NZ Tallulah, it's a great country <biased>. I hope the weather improves though, we aren't having much of a summer in Wellington. Boo! It's misty and damp here today. We were supposed to go camping this weekend, so glad we decided not to or else I'd be so disappointed.

Congrats MrsH! And best of luck TTC engels!

I know what you mean strawb about loud noises in the pool being scary, it's certainly a different environment there. I keep meaning to take baby L but can't remember the guidelines about when to take them, does anyone else know? Weird what you forget second time around ..

I've started a blog/project based on a hilarious book on parenting from 1945 and have just been accepted into the MN bloggers network if you're interested modernmothercraft.blogspot.com It's a project I started to stop my mind turning to complete mush while at home with the kidlets

PenelopeLane Fri 07-Feb-14 20:59:35

Oh and Chesh am impressed P is toilet trained! We're not having much luck here am afraid on that front

CallingAllEngels Sat 08-Feb-14 08:26:56

Love the blog pen .

Have a great holiday tallulah .

Miserable grey day here. In fact, it's been horrible for the last few days. M hasn't been able to play outside since Wednesday. Going a bit stir crazy here, may take him out in his wellies to get wet later!

no progress her with toilet training either and M still sleeping with us every night from 12/1 onwards <yawn>

M hasn't progressed to why yet strawb . Everything is still no, though when you ask him what he said he then either says yes or repeats, what did you say?

Dh doing a bit better thanks chesh. I've had a rough few weeks. I HATE January and am so glad it's over. Planning a belated birthday party for March to myself up!

Strawberry we have why....lots and lots and lots of why... <bangs head on table>

Pen will read blog when E has nap, well done for writing anything with two I'm very impressed grin

Cheshire how're you getting on? Is M sleeping?

Ipswitch are you coping with two? I'm panicking slightly please can you all lie tell me it's easy!

I've been AWOL as E had horrid cough and cold and then I've had it so just knackered. Otherwise all fairly quiet this end bump is huge and I'm only six months...no idea how big I'm going to end up its scary.

MrsH everything ok? Fingers are still crossed here xx

Engels we have no luck with potty training either. Nursery wanted to start him, if planned to wait til mat leave. Nursery are putting him on potty but I'm rubbish at doing it at home. I'm hoping he'll learn from them and I'll get away with not doing anything <lazy> wink

CheshireDing Wed 12-Feb-14 13:45:33

Ah of course you are going to NZ Tallulah Enjoy ! A holiday in a camper van sounds so cool. I got another sticker yesterday for a "good poo poo" too wink

Pene I am waiting for the overnight accident though. She often sleeps naked from the waist down (her choice, I don't understand!) grin Do you mean when to take them swimming? I am sure it was about 6 weeks when I took P.

Engels January is bloody miserable, pre-sprogs DH and I always used to go on hols in January as it was something to look forward to. The weather is atrocious this month too. Belated party sounds like a good idea, will the weather be better then ?

I decided that February was going to be the start of my healthiness - except that when 1st Feb came I actually forgot ! Feeling very fed up that after P was born she seemed to suck all the fat out of me feeding and my jeans were baggy, just got my jeans out of the loft and I can't even get some of them over my bum sad I have never felt I had a big bum but now I definitely have more than a muffin top (more a full cake top) and I am sure I am wider than before (no idea if this is possible). Conclusion I now have the bottom half of Princess Eugenie when she was photographed in a bikini - this is not a good look < no offence to Eugenie think she may be skinnier now > I can't understand how the weight can disappear last time and not this time

Thankfully no "why" here Straw, just lots of "what you doing"? (500 times per day)

CheshireDing Wed 12-Feb-14 13:53:42

Killa I don't find it particularly easy (sorry), it is definitely getting better but I think my main problems initially were that I was not used to be off work with P at her current level of interaction/needing to do stuff (whilst then having a newborn as well) iykwim. So when people said to me it's hard they didn't really explain themselves so I didn't really understand.

As long as I get snacks cut up and put in the change bag for the next day, I know what P is having for lunch and what we are doing for the day, e.g. tomorrow it's either Playgroup or Toddler Gardening in the morning, then the afternoon we are putting fat balls for nest material around the garden for the birds. Then I can usually cope. I also learnt that she has to go in the shower and get dressed basically as soon as she is up at about 7am otherwise she will kick off (one day she still had no clothes on by 10.30am). I feel I do not really speak much to M during P's non-nursery days sad he does get interaction but nothing like P did when she was newborn.

As long as I knew what we have planned and as much stuff ready as possible (pram in car, clothes out etc and I have had a shower before she wakes then it's fine), otherwise I have had to change my thinking so not be bothered if we miss something because she was not ready. We had a few shouting matches and a particularly bad day where they both cried all day and I text DH to ask if he could have the afternoon off ! sad

Sorry this probably all sounds really negative I feel a lot happier about it now and have stopped the shouting so have to be super organised in advance grin

Cheshire don't be sorry, you're the first person who's actually given me practical advice! Any other tips very much appreciated!

Happy Valentines day everyone thanks

PenelopeLane Sat 15-Feb-14 02:07:06

Your post resonated with me cheshire! I am finding things fine now Lily is finally in a wee bit of a routine, but at first, was trickier. I try and do what you do as well in terms of prep in the evenings, as it does make a difference. My main tip is to relax expectations for yourself killa - I had a strict no TV before 4pm rule and life got much easier when I decided it didn't matter anymore. I also find that going out every morning works well as otherwise A gets bored and listless and naughty- he's fine to be home all afternoon, but not the morning.

I feel like I don't pay enough attention to L either, which makes me feel very lucky that A still is in nursery about 15 hours a week so we can do some things together

How is everyone? W has become a proper little chatterbox (and is still why-ing arrrggghhh) his best friend (and her mum) came round on Wednesday and it was lovely to see him properly play I don't see much of it a nursery past the charge for the door they all do when someone arrives grin. Her mum is lovely too so I hope I'm on the way to a new RL friend as well smile

CallingAllEngels Sat 22-Feb-14 18:35:01

I'm good strawb. M is chattering away and pretending to be a million types of animal everyday. Heading into hospital Tuesday to have lump on his tongue removed so have to keep him entertained and contained for whole day at hospital until he gets discharged - curious to see how it goes.

Disney double bill in our house today. I am the laziest mum ever!

Great that its finally getting sorted eng hope it goes well. We find pre loading the iPad/phone with favourite TV program's helps and snacks if he's allowed them. Is it done under general or local? I'm guessing general because of his age so the snacks will probably only be useful for after.
In my experience children's wards tend to have a reasonable if tatty collection of books and toys for distraction purposes too.

How did M's lump removal go eng?

CallingAllEngels Mon 03-Mar-14 08:27:03

Hi strawb sorry didn't see your pre-op message and just got back from UK (an wi-fi less hotel!).

Op went fine. He was quite distressed when he came round from the general anaesthetic - trying to rip out his IV and sensor - but calmed down when they took it out. He refused to sit on the bed being wheeled to and from theatre though so I had to carry him (and he's bloody heavy now!).

He was eating fine after (probably because tongue was still numb) and they put Thomas the Tank Engine on for him.

But I ended up home with him on Wednesday as well. His tongue was really swollen so it hurt to eat and he couldn't talk properly, and he didn't understand why so was doing a lot of crying. have to go back in 2 weeks for check up and results (they should analyse lump)

Just got back from a weekend in England. My mum and dad tok M to the zoo on Saturday so DH hung out with my BIL and I went up to London with Dsis to the theatre. Bliss! Have decided we have to do this more often! My mum loved having M and I finally got to feel like a grown up again!

Plus, my mum managed to get M to do a poo on the potty, and he did it again today. Am going to sit him on it whenever I can.

Also going to try and see how putting him back in his own bed goes this week (since I'm on half term).

Watching Peter Pan right now since he has a PP costume to wear to nursery tomorrow (it's Caranaval here so lots of parades and dressing up and drinking )

How is everyone?

Glad it went well eng you must be relieved to have it sorted too. Yay for the potty training too, we've not started yet!

W is fine, growing again and is a real chatterbox now, I live being able to have proper conversations with him. Our cat is really ill at the moment though, we're back at the vets for the fourth time in a week tonight and its getting to the stage where I'm honestly not sure if she's going to pull through.

CallingAllEngels Mon 03-Mar-14 11:08:16

Sorry to hear about your cat sad

M seems to have decided that all children speak Dutch. We went to a friend who has a DD the same age as him and he only spoke Dutch to her, and di the same at the zoo with my DPs on saturday (and would then switch straight to English with adults).

Also had some funny translations. He told us he saw meerpoesjes - whihc literally translates as "more pussy"! Logically translating Meerkat (Stokstaartjes in Dutch...not quite so easy!). Then when we told him that Mama says Meerkat and Papa says Stokstaartje, he kept saying "Papa more pussy" which had us in stitches in the car.

Thanks eng she's overnighting at the vets at the moment.

grin At all children speaking Dutch and the weird translations.

MmmIceCream Tue 04-Mar-14 01:42:45

That trip to the theatre in London sounds fab engels! I am on the look out for things to make me feel more grown up as well.

Things are good here but it's getting cold, boo. Am half way through my year off and already wondering where it's gone, although baby L is looking so much more robust now and can even sit for short periods which is neat.

Strawb I know what you mean about real conversations, it's neat eh? Although most of ours at present are about things being scary. i.e. everything. We're working on that one though!

PenelopeLane Tue 04-Mar-14 03:50:48

Oooops, signed in under my "other" name that I use sometimes when I don't want to be outed in RL - epic username change fail lol!

CallingAllEngels Tue 04-Mar-14 07:47:46

It's amazing the difference just one day can make. I stayed over at a friend's a few weeks ago for her birthday party. Even just the train ride (an hour each way) on my own, able to read and drink posh coffee made me feel grown up and free. We're probably going back again in April and July and am going to make the same arrangement and hopefully get tickets for the Globe. DH isn't really a fan of the theatre. He thinks it's overpriced (it is!) and west end seats are not made for 2 metres tall Dutch men.

Spring is on the way here. Still nippy (they keep saying we're going to get snow but haven't seen any yet) but lighter in the mornings and evenings and my daffodils have shot up (but not open yet like the ones we saw in Kent at the weekend).

M's imagination is going wild - he thinks he's an animal. I'm desperate to gget some dressing-up outfits. Wanted to get a Gruffalo costume for carnaval but DH vetoed. I think he was shoehorned into one too many embarrassing costumes as a kid and is taking it out on M!

Okay, lots of marking to get done on my childfree day today sad Once it's done I can enjoy the rest of my holiday, so too-do-loo!

TwosaCrowd Thu 06-Mar-14 21:28:36

Hi all (scheh here) just popping in to say hi, i'm still about! 13 weeks today. I made C a gruffalo costume for book day, my first ever go on the sewing machine!

Not bothering with potty training yet as am taking C on holiday in a week, so wanted to wait until that was over at least.

CheshireDing Fri 07-Mar-14 21:40:14

Twos 13 weeks? Are you pregnant? [Smile]

Engels i love the theatre but yes it is SO expensive - never surprises me that most theatregoers are of the retired early over 50 type !
Glad the op went okay, must be so frightening for them to be in hospital.

Incidentally am i the only person who has not had a night away from their toddler (and whose toddler has never stayed over elsewhere without us) ? It's not deliberate she hasn't but i feel like a right saddo now grin

DH is putting up P's.new wendy house in the garden tomorrow i am.very excited and hoping for sun. I have been getting her very excited about it, that and our holiday to Wales in a caravan (poor child).

DH and i have decided to try for No3, although as M is feeding every hour over night i cant see it turning up grin

strawbs how is your cat now, i hope she's okay flowers

ips how is baby D doing ?

CheshireDing Fri 07-Mar-14 21:41:23

High 5 for the poo on the potty engels

CallingAllEngels Sat 08-Mar-14 08:37:16

Great news scheh . we are just starting ttc again.

#3 chesh envy I don't think I'll get DH past 2!

I have spent 6 nights away from M and for all of those he was with DH.

Little devilwas kicking me in the head this morning.

We're spending the day outside too chesh - DH is emptying the trailer at the dump as he sorts out the garage. I'm going to weed, dig out an old prickly shrub and spruce everything up. I need some sunshine (and it's a beautiful day here already).

Cat is much better thanks chesh smile she's pretty much back to her old self again, the vets think the confusing symptoms were because she had a big that the antibiotics they put her on cleared up but she then reacted badly to the antibiotics. Still she's all better and home where she belongs (although I'm very glad we've got pet insurance!)

DH and I have had one night away from W and MIL stayed in our house with him. (and I suppose technically a second where he was in PHDU after his head op and we weren't allowed to sleep there but I don't think it really counts.)

Fx for those of you ttc and glad things are going well sch we are waiting a bit longer before trying for no2 as we can't really afford full time nursery fees for 2!

TwosaCrowd Sat 08-Mar-14 21:07:03

I am! Keeping it quiet until after the scan next week. Going into it prepared this time, no breast feeding (maybe a couple of weeks) and straight onto meds.

A friend picked me up in her car today, I vomited twice, had to get her to pull the car over!!

Cheshire 3! <gulp> not sure I'm that brave this pregnancy is harder on my body than the last) although feel better in myself IYSWIM.

Scheh hope scan goes well.

Pen we're just having the first of our spring days here, feels like it's been such a long time coming. I'm glad this LO will be born at the start of the summer.

Good news on cat Strawberry smile

Engels we had a night out in London last weekend and it was so lovely to have a meal out and cinema. It doesn't have to be often to make a difference I think.

I'm 29wks pregnant now in longest pg ever and feel huge. Not sure how big I'll be by the end and think this one will be bigger than E so am panicking about the birth a bit. <crosses legs>

CallingAllEngels Sun 09-Mar-14 09:35:03

Glad pg is going well killa

Good luck with scan scehe.

good to hear cat is okay strawb.

If everything goes to plan <hollow laugh> we'll have another winter baby. DH reminded me how much I hate having a birthday mid-winter, but there's no way I'm waiting to ttc after the last 8 months (and I reminded him that his birthday is in the middle of summer and he hates it too...so looks like our children will inherit our pessimistic personalities! ).

M is having major sleep issues. As well as coming into our room he's now wide awake at 5am <yawn>

PenelopeLane Sun 09-Mar-14 23:33:42

I've been away from A three times, all for work trips, so I wasn't terribly happy about it! Had it been for fun though I wouldn't have minded so much grin DH and I are already throwing out the hints to the grandparents for a week of babysitting for our 10 year anniversary in 3 years. Yup a while away, but still ...

Scheh hope all goes well, exciting you're having a second!

engels you should just come back Down Under for your birthday, then it won't be midwinter! grin

Killa I found #2 much harder on my body too, hope it's not too hard going though!

cheshire am impressed you're thinking #3 already! I'd like a third I think but DH isn't so keen, so we've agreed to park the issue until they'd be a 3 year age gap between Baby L and the new one, so a couple more years. We'll see. I might change my mind once the reality of being a working mum to 2 sets in later this year (am off until Sept)

CallingAllEngels Mon 10-Mar-14 07:09:20

I reckon in a few years M will be old enough for us to park him at my parents's and then for us to have a weekend away (in England of course!). I don't think my ILs could cope with him, and atm with sleep issues it's not a realistic option.

Had a lovely birthday in NZ when I was travelling pen . Waved (now) DH off at the airport for his flight back to Europe then spent the day at Mission Bay, lunch on the quayside and up the Sky tower to round off the evening.

M has been driving me crazy! He is pushing the boundaries big time, and I know it's because he's bored and wants someone to play with. Wondering what to do today. Back to work romorrow after half term so could take the opportunity to take him out on bike in national park or to the zoo (he went to the zoo with my parents when we were in England and all I've heard for the last week is, "Go and see the animals?")

PenelopeLane Tue 11-Mar-14 04:41:36

A is being really hard at present too, yesterday he ran his bike over the baby's fingers! On purpose! Twice! shock Nursery helps I think - it seems he gets a bit bored at home although I really do try re an outing a day, lots of activities etc. It's like no matter what I do, he still ends up moaning to watch TV. Yet after a short time in nursery he comes home all sweetness and light again! I was thinking of rolling back his hours (as I am a SAHM of course) but after days like yesterday I don't want to as the poor baby ends up being ignored as well. Whereas today it was just she and I I could take her swimming, read her books, play with her for long periods of time and catch up on mn ...

(can't you tell I am still trying to justify keeping A in nursery 16 hours a week even though I'm at home grin)

CallingAllEngels Thu 13-Mar-14 06:37:29

Drum roll please.......M slept the whole night in his own bed! Came in at 6.45. Think that's the first time since November! Finally!

pen don't feel guilty about keeping a in nursery. I will be doing the same, partly because otherwise we'll lose the place, but mostly because I value my sanity!

TwosaCrowd Thu 13-Mar-14 08:42:36

Had my scan yesterday! 14+1 smile

Yay for sleep eng smile

Glad the scan went well two

I think they get quite a lot out of the social side of nursery pen so I wouldn't feel guilty about it. I know W picks up so much from the other children there and his friendships are lovely (although I would prefer to have W in 3 not 4 days but needs must)

Yay Engels that's great.

Pen I'll be keeping E in nursery one day a week and at various grandparents on two other days. I want to stick to his routine as much as possible and to have time with the new baby.

Twos great news on scan.

Nights are getting lighter everybody soon we'll be sat outside in the summer drinking wine grin

PenelopeLane Thu 13-Mar-14 20:39:17

Yay twos that's exciting!

Thanks strawb and engels re nursery! I don't usually feel too bad, just one of those niggly guilt things.

And yay for M sleeping through! Sadly M must have passed the no sleeping baton to my kids. Baby L was up 5 times last night, she was a great sleeper when younger (waking once or sleeping through) but since about 4 months it's badly regressed and I don't know why. Top up formula has worked a little and tried solids yesterday too so fingers crossed

CallingAllEngels Fri 14-Mar-14 07:26:35

Well, M crawled in at 1am last night, but I was very perky on Th6rsday after a proper sleep!

Has been beautiful here this week. I've managed to be out of school early everyday to sit in the sun (even managed to read on Tuesday before dh got home!). But it's misty outside atm so will wait and see what we get up to.

CallingAllEngels Mon 17-Mar-14 11:14:25

M managed 2 more sleeps in his own bed this weekend grin

Just got back from check up at hospital and lump was definitely nothing to worry about. Tongue healing nicely.

Happy engels today! Heading into town to abuse my credit card!

Ah Engels did you buy anything nice? Great news about M's tongue.

I bought E a train table from eBay yesterday, it arrived with about 20 trains and lots and lots of brio track. His face was a picture grin think I've got to stop looking on eBay for a while we can't fit anything else in the house!

Fingers crossed we may be moving! We're hoping to buy DMIL's house which may mean we move in the next few weeks. Am desperate to move before the baby arrives as we're squished into a little terrace with lots and lots of steps at moment. Hopefully find out this week grin

CallingAllEngels Wed 19-Mar-14 17:08:29

Spent a lot on skincare, make up and show polish confused

However, ordered 2 pairs of shoes and a swing dress online (ssh! Don't tell DH!) And am coveting a gorgeous trench coat and lovely handbag.

It's to distract me from the 2ww!

M has slept in his own bed till 6 five times in the last week! He's finally getting it! Didwake up last night but he stayed in bed and called for me rather than getting up. Now thinking about getting a gro clock so we can push back the wakeup time.

Good luck with possible move killa

PenelopeLane Wed 19-Mar-14 19:36:22

Engels what's the magic sleeping trick? I need to do something about A's sleeping in our bed ... was thinking about a groclock too, does anyone have one?

CallingAllEngels Wed 19-Mar-14 20:17:56

I wish there was a magic trick would have tried it 5 months ago though bribery has been working (we told m that if he sleeps in his own bed, he gets a chocolate and he's been parrotting it!).

MrsHende Thu 20-Mar-14 14:05:49

Hello ladies! Been a bit absent, finding this pregnancy very difficult. Horrendous hyperemisis, even worse than I had with L.

We recently changed L's cot bed into a bed and fortunately been quite lucky so far with her staying in bed...to the extent that she doesn't get out of bed in the morning!! She wakes at the usual 6am and starts her singing and chatting routine until she gets fed up and shouts or cries for us, but doesn't seem to realise that she could get out of bed herself if she wanted to! (I wonder if I should be worried about her intelligence...! wink)

I feel very sorry for her right now, I'm really struggling and have lots of days where I don't get out of bed, and have only been out of the house to go to hospital or the gp for the past 5 weeks. I've also been admitted to hospital 3 times. Of course, poor wee L doesn't understand. She's not herself at all, quite close to tears a lot of the time, and quite strange with grandparents - I think she's worried they'll take her away ( which they've had to a couple of times so DH could take me to hospital). Fingers crossed it lifts before too long.

CallingAllEngels Fri 21-Mar-14 07:29:34

Sorry to hear you're ill mrsh sad

2 shitnights sleep here. I think ds has an ear infection. During the day he's fine but burning up at night.

on 2ww here. Fx for a 2014 baby.

Hope you start to feel better soon mrsH thanks

Poor M ear infections are horrible hope it clears soon and you go back to getting a good nights sleep eng and fx for your 2ww

DH was blowing his nose this morning and W looked at him before saying 'don't pick your brains out daddy' was so funny and so unexpected!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sun 23-Mar-14 11:15:02

Hello all!

Mrsh, thanks for you!! How far on are you now? Did the sickness ease over time with L? It's something that I would panic with if I was expecting again. I had horrendous hypermesis too. Hoping it passes soon x

All well here. I'm up to working 5 afternoons now so each day is becoming a blur! So glad I have the mornings with S. She now goes to nursery 1 morning a week, partly so I can study and partly as she kept asking!!! Our neighbours kids all go and she was obv hearing them mention and so was asking when it was her turn grin. She loves it and is waiting by the door at 8am on 'nursery mornings' smile

Killa, fab about the house!!! I'm also starting to look at moving. Currently in a flat which is a good size with 3 big bedrooms so we have plenty space but schools here aren't the best and would much rather get her into one in the council area that I work in, but to guarantee she gets a place, I really need to move. If it comes to it and I don't move before hand, I can put in a placing request for the area stating my mum would be dropping her and collecting from school (which she would). Going to speak with bank re my mortgage hopefully in the next few weeks. They have said they are happy to lend me more but is obv need to show prof of my earnings etc. exciting but daunting!!

Things with ex dp are going well. Typically seeing him most weekends now and so far so good. I'm just trying to keep my feelings to myself and let S enjoy getting to know him.

Engels, glad op went well and lump was nothing to worry about

Sorry I forgot everyone's news to reply individually

Happy Sunday x

Oh MrsH so sorry to hear you're feeling so sick but exciting that you've got a sticky bean in there!

Mummyduck glad things are going well with S dad. I haven't even thought about schools yet it scared the life out of me even thinking about it blush

Pen/ Cheshire/ ipswitch did you get bad braxton hicks second time around? I seem to be getting really strong painful ones this time and I'm so uncomfortable.

<Waves at everyone else>

PenelopeLane Mon 24-Mar-14 21:17:02

Oh no Mrs sounds awful.

Killa I got really strong ones that were more false labour the second time, from about 36 weeks and a couple of incidents in the week before I went into labour that I actually thought labour was starting. How far along are you now?

Duck that's exciting re the house! We are thinking of buying too (have been renting for years - too fussy to buy what we can currently afford so are still saving!) but not sure where, and you're right about schools. Hmmm. Our dilemma is lovely house in a suburb that's not as nice, or average house in great suburb. I honestly can't decide.

engels fingers crossed! Is M ok now as well?

We just got back from a fabulous holiday in a beautiful part of the country at a wedding on a farm - loved it, and feeling the post-holiday low seeping in now. Boo!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 25-Mar-14 09:31:42

Yes that's my dilemma. I can pick a nice, biggish house in an average area or smaller one in much better area. Had a look last night online and found a few needing a lot of work done and so a good price but it's the amount of money now needed to renovate that would scare me! But I would view it as the house we would be living in for a loooooong time so I'd be in no great rush to do it all at once. I'm sure we could stay with my parents for a bit to save money.
My plan is to use the 2 weeks I'm off over Easter to gut my house and have it valued so I know where I stand.
Exciting but daunting shockgrin

PenelopeLane Tue 25-Mar-14 21:19:46

We would be far too useless to renovate, which is why we're waiting as well! Our loose plan is to keep saving and try and buy a house right before A is 5 so he can start at the school local to where we buy (start school at 5 here), although we have an excellent rental so no real incentive to move at present (right opposite a school, supermarkets, pools, shops a 5 min walk away)

Happy Mother's Day everyone - hope you all had a good one thanks

We've just started with a soft start to potty training, still in nappies but asking if W wants the potty regularly and he's been doing wee's in it grin he loves emptying the potty into the toilet and saying 'bye bye' to his wee! Hoping we can build on it gently until he properly gets it.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 01-Apr-14 21:42:01

Hope everyone had a lovely Mother's Day!

Well done W! Sounds promising! grin Tonight is night 3 of no nsppy for S. She's been waking for past 3 weeks dry so gave it a go. So far so good but I've got spare bed sheets at the ready just incase!

PenelopeLane Tue 08-Apr-14 00:47:58

I hope mother's day went well! Although it's not here until May I enjoy the idea that I could potentially have it twice grin

That's so cute, Strawb, saying bye bye to wee. All A says is "lolly now" so I think I need to rethink the bribery! Not that that even works most of the time. We're so busy battling the coming-into-the-bed issue that toilet training is parked for the time being.

My blog is mumsnet's blog of the day smile ! Am very pleased - it's just my rambling about being a working mother.

PenelopeLane Tue 08-Apr-14 00:48:46

Oh and am impressed with S not needing a nappy at all at night!

CallingAllEngels Wed 09-Apr-14 21:09:38

Only just caught up. Awesome news about blog!
We're the same with potty/bed. Occasional blips where he stays in his own bed but usually at 1am I hear the patter of tiny feet.

2ww again here. Fx.

5 weeks and counting....am feeling huge, my back and pelvis hurt and I can't breathe through my nose.

Move house a week on Monday, I'm panicking a little bit. Don't finish work until the end of the week after we move and it's so busy with Easter that I'm worried I won't be able to hand over everything properly to my successor. confused

Sorry for me post am just feeling a but overwhelmed by it all at the moment!

Gosh killa that's a lot to cope with at once. Try not to worry about the work bit too much - it will be fine and you successor will find out anything they need to know from someone else.

Hope the house move goes well. brew and cake for you

CallingAllEngels Wed 16-Apr-14 17:11:58

Oh killa sounds very stressful. Try not to worry...they'll cope without you. Once you have a newborn you won't care!

Still 7n 2ww here...so impatient.

Thanks strawberry and Engels. The joy of a family business is I'll probably get phone calls mid labour!

Will keep fingers crossed Engels.

CheshireDing Sat 19-Apr-14 06:26:33

Aww killa where is your baby bump pic on fb ? Hope you can breath today the end is always so difficult when the bump is so big and hard you can't move it out of the way sad. I don't remember any braxton hicks particularly with M. He is just 4 months now and it seems like forever ago !

Thank you to those who replied re staying nightts away from the tiddlers i feel less pathetic about it now as i thought you had all had weeks holidays here and there child free grin.

We have made lots of life decisions in the last week or so, includin not moving back to Australia to live and DH putting his request in to use the rest of my ML after the summer, our house is going up for sale next week too. We have viewed a few things but i think we are going to have to compromise a lot ! Really want some chickens in the garden for the children maybe for me too

Any news engels ? Re no2

M is teething, the best i get is 2 hours sleep, the worsf - 90 minutes on Wednesday THE WHOLE NIGHT.

Enjoy the long weekend and hopefully sunshine ladies.

CallingAllEngels Sat 19-Apr-14 06:46:41

Had a very faint BFP on Thursday night, but AF not due till tomorow so waiting a few days to test again.

DH has only just realised that we could be having a aChristmas baby!

Ooh Engels that's exciting!!! This huge bump was a very faint line grin

PenelopeLane Sun 20-Apr-14 10:28:45

That's so exciting Engels!!!!! Any darker lines yet? My very faint line is now a bonny looking almost-7 month old who had her first haircut today! (Yes, she's suddenly got a lot of hair. I must post a pic on the FB page).

Killa that sounds hard - hope the blood pressure is OK with all that stress!

Cheshire - you were thinking of moving to Oz?? That would have been an adventure! You must be tired as well, hope M sleeps better tonight!

We love the idea of moving back to the UK for a year, but the logistics of it all seems far too hard to contemplate at present now we have DCs

CallingAllEngels Sun 20-Apr-14 16:46:27

Took another hpt this morning and line came up quicker and stronger than before. Now will try not to poas for a week, and just keep my fx that this sticks. Going to UK Wednesday have already decided to tell my DM. If it all goes wrong again I will be telling her in any case. We have a sneaking suspicion that my Dsis is pg. Going to spend the day with her and bil on Friday, but she wants us to "pop over" on Thurs as well on our way to or way back from day out shopping. Or it couod just be that she can't wait to see us! We'll see!

Ooh fx for you eng

Hope you've managed to get some sleep chesh

Happy Easter every one grin hope the bunny bought you lots of chocolate! I did a mini egg hunt around the house with W once he realised what was going on he loved it!

Engels how're things have you tested again?

MrsH hope you're feeling ok has the sickness stopped at all?

Cheshire/ Ipswitch how're you getting on with two now?

Well moving day here starts Monday (eek!) and last week of work next week to add to confusion but hopefully once next weeks out of the way I can relax a bit. Was thinking of trying to start potty training with E before baby arrives but think I might be being a bit optimistic on what I can do when off on mat leave grin

Hope everyone had a lovely Easter and all is well x

MrsHende Sat 26-Apr-14 18:14:41

Just a very quick wave hello!

Sickness is lessening, thank goodness.

Engels, got everything crossed here for you!

Killa, lots of luck with moving day!

And big waves to everyone!!!

CallingAllEngels Sat 26-Apr-14 18:23:45

Still pg. 5 weeks now so the next 2 weeks is the tricky bit for my body. Fx.

Over in UK atm, told my family this weekend. Have an early scan in 3 weeks time. Going so s l o w l y!

Good luck for the move today killa

Yay for being less sick mrsH

Fx for you eng

Thanks everyone. Have never had packers before and so far have net them showed them round and left them to it! Least stressful move ever so far let's hope it continues grin

MrsH glad things are getting better it must be tough to cope with the sickness and looking after E.

Engels will keep everything crossed x

CallingAllEngels Tue 29-Apr-14 12:11:44

Hope moving day went well killa

Sleep advice needed. M is driving us crazy! We spent 4 nights in UK in a hotel room with 2 doubles. M stayed in bed every single night, didn't get up till morning (between 6am and having to wake him at 8am one day to head to my parents).

Back home and he's waking up again! Though have been able to get him resettled...Sunday night at 3am and last night at 11.30pm and 1am (little blighter snuck in at 6am). Anyone else having sleep issues or just us?

Also feeling guilty that we haven't really pushed potty training yet. We offer him the potty regularly, but he doesn't seem that interested. Anyone else still in nappies?

Think I'm panicking a bit more about potty training and sleep now that I'm pg!

Do you think it's the bed eng does he wriggle a lot and end up on the edge? Is that why the double was better? Can't really help with the getting out as W is still in his cotbed! He's not shown any sign of climbing out or being uncomfortable yet so we've left him! He does wake at about 5 and whine but one of us pops in and tells him it's still night and he usually goes back to sleep.

We do similar to you with the potty I think. It's around and us and nursery are trying to encourage him to use it but I haven't done 'proper' training yet I'm saving that for warmer weather. I think by the time we 'train' he should get it quite fast because he does ask for it sometimes and he's always right I think he's just lazy about it when the nappy is easier for him!

CallingAllEngels Tue 29-Apr-14 15:26:26

Maybe that's it strawb. In the double we put pillows either side as a barrier since the hotel bed was a lot higher than his. Maybe a side guard thing would be a good idea or an airbed at the side f his bed

CallingAllEngels Tue 29-Apr-14 15:37:57

Now just need to work out what bed guard is in Dutch!

CheshireDing Thu 01-May-14 07:51:18

Hope the move went ok killa have you got lots more space and garden now for summer ? Am so desperate for the children to be running around in sunshine instead of current cloudy sweatyness sad

Am very excited for all these new babies this year will not mention how knackered i am

Picture of L please Pene

P awake, will come back later x

PenelopeLane Thu 01-May-14 09:53:21

I just put up a pic now Cheshire, have been meaning to for ages but never got around to it!

And Cheshire was it you that did BLW last time? I'm thinking of giving it a go if you have any advice? L is much more tactile and do-it-yourself than A was and I think she'll like it

We haven't really started toilet training either, I've given it a go a couple of times, but A has got quite agitated so I've given up. We're off to Samoa in a couple of weeks (yay!!) so will not try anything too big until after then. Although I keep thinking of more and more excuses not to start grin

How did the move go killa?

Move went well thanks <looks round at piles of boxes> I have lots to do but last day at work tomorrow so hopefully will be able to relax and do it slowly.

Garden is level and house is bigger so hopefully will be easier when no 2 comes along smile

We haven't tackled potty yet either yet, have attempted a couple of times but, like A, E has just got agitated and I haven't had time or inclination to push it. I'm hoping over the summer it will just happen.

CallingAllEngels Sat 03-May-14 14:39:30

Glad the move went well killa

I don't feel quite such a slacker about potty training now. Just that everyone I seem to know has done it by 2 yrs shock and they're maiing me feel inadequate blush

M won't keep running away. I just ahd to abandon my shopping at the till and chase him round the supermarket. It was so embarrassing blush I'm not having a good day but made myself feel a little better by getting a milkshake I n the way home

TallulahPumpkin Sat 03-May-14 22:19:14

Hey everyone. Feel like I've not been on here for ages er, I haven't! I've skimmed through the posts. Congrats to all where due grin. And even if not grin.

We had a great time in NZ, although Seb got a bit spoilt and misbehaved a bit. Getting him to sleep was a nightmare; the more tired and excited he got the more he would pinch, bite and scratch - I was covered in bruises and spent a few nights in tears, I'm ashamed to say. Sounds pathetic now. The big shame is that he won't remember it, although he does tell everyone that he's been on holiday and went in a big plane smile, oh and all the things we didn't get to do/see because we had a 2yo with us, but I won't mention that!

Since then he's gone into a Big Boy Bed, with mixed results, but still in nappies. He's happy to sit on the potty but doesn't do anything, except go 'peepeepeepee'. He usually tells us 'I've done a poo' after 'the event'! but not always. TMI alert - His poos are still sometimes really yucky, which puts me off potty training at the moment. I do wonder if he's allergic to something. I really hope not cheese as I don't think he could live without it! Any others with the same issue?

Engles Seb does that a lot. He ran halfway down a random strangers garden the other day. Not sure if anyone was watching from the house although they perhaps shouldn't have left the gate open.

CallingAllEngels Mon 05-May-14 09:24:33

How was the flight tallulah ?

We felt the same about all the things we couldn't do, so planning a proper return in 10 years when dc can join us on hikes and water activities. M gets the same sometimes when we're away and out of routine.

Sleep has been mixed this week. We've had to put him back at least once a night and he's ended up in with us once or twice. Last night we tried a different tactic than quietly putting him back and soothing him to sleep (after being out of bed once each with him). Put him back more forcefully, told him he was naughty and had to sleep in his own bed. He cried loudly for 10 minutes but didn't try to get out of bed, even though door was open and fell back asleep. No more Nice Mama!

This morning he's refusing to eat anything, even though I want to take him to the playground and told him he can't go if he doesn't eat anything.

PenelopeLane Mon 05-May-14 23:47:16

Glad you enjoyed NZ Tallulah, where did you go in the end?

Engels I can't wait until the DC are old enough for hikes and things! We tried one a couple of weeks ago, it was fabulous for the first 90 mins but during the last hour the whinging made me want to pull off my ears.

TallulahPumpkin Tue 06-May-14 22:05:07

Oh bum, just did a big post and stupid computer lost it all!

Engles erm, they were fun!

Pen we didn't get as far as we'd hoped. Had a few days in Auckland (loved it) and Waiheke Island (loved it), then picked up the camper and headed north to Baylys Beach and Waipoua forest, then over and down to Whangeri, then back through Auckland to Waihi Beach (loved it) via a cool gorge. Then down to Tauranga for the wedding. Then Hobbiton (very cool), Rotorua, then up to the Coromandel (Cathedral Cove, Hot Water Beach, Driving Creek railway and Coromandel town) (loved them). Then back to Auckland and home sad. I was ready to go home by that time though.

TallulahPumpkin Sun 11-May-14 12:26:48

Did I break the thread?

CallingAllEngels Sun 11-May-14 12:56:46

Testing, testing. Still works!

Happy mothers' day to pen and everyone else celebrating today. Have just been round to see ILs for coffee and giveMIL flowers. M gave me a card he made at nursery and some jewellery I bought myself but the best present was a whole night uninterrupted sleep. smile

PenelopeLane Sun 11-May-14 22:30:13

Sounds like a good trip Tallulah. Any tips for the plane trip? We are off to Samoa in a few days so will have a four hour trip there. Hmmmm. Hope it's not too painful, although it's nothing compared to the UK/NZ flight I'm sure!

You saw a nice part of the country smile Although I haven't actually been to Hobbiton to my shame ...

Hope you had a nice mothers' day too engels! Mine was OK. I ended up getting overtired and having a massive sulk though about not having enough time to myself! Feel better today after a good sleep but just had one of those weekends when we were really busy doing boring things, DH has been working away a lot too which has meant much less time for both of us to get real downtime. That working period is over now though and off to the tropics in a few days, which I am really excited about as need a holiday!

CallingAllEngels Mon 12-May-14 08:49:58

Have fun pen. Supposed to be summer here but temp has dipped and lots of rain.

If I was travelling with DS now I would say lots of books and a handful of cars and a handpuppet. At the time we travelled last year he just wasn't interested, except in the handpuppet which was a godsend!

CheshireDing Mon 12-May-14 12:24:05

Ooh lovely pene will have a look at fb pics. We did BLW with P and she used to eat like a horse ! Now she is more selective but not fussy, she will always try stuff. M is going to start this week now too as he is 5.5 months and very interested when we are eating, plus i am hoping it might help him sleep longer than 2 hours ! He will be trying toast soldiers, broccoli, banana and yoghurt with a spoon first and we wil see how he goes. We were just verg chilled out about it, let them mess withthe food and if they dont want it it doesnt matter. We hand the loaded spoon but P had to put itin her mouth herself.

engels i wouldnt worry about toilet training P has beentrained since Novemver and now keep pooing in her pants sad

Your holiday sounds fab tallulah
glad you had a good time

Hope the flight goes ok pen

Can't believe M is nearly 6mo chesh that's gone really fast!

W is definitely acting out the terrible 2's at the moment, he's whinney, lashing out and stropping like trouper! Everything seems to be a negotiation at the moment (I think he may have just had a hormone surge) then in the middle of being a nightmare he'll do stuff like come and hug me randomly and say he loves me. Toddlers!

CallingAllEngels Sun 18-May-14 10:08:39

Ah, bliss.....we seem to have cracked sleep! Nine nights of no toddler in the bed. This morning he wandered in at 7.45 and I put him back in his own room with the curtains open and a stack of books and he was reading happily to himself for another hour.

I could get used to this!

But yy to tantrums strawb !

8w today and feeling good. Early scan tomorrow night so fx.

Good luck for your scan tonight Engels!

Any tips on how you cracked toddler sleep appreciated, E had decided that 7pm is now too early for bed and isn't going to sleep until 9/10pm he just plays in his room. Still awake around 6am though so I'm worried he's not getting enough sleep.

In other news I am still pg no baby yet and I'm fed up, huge and cannot face potentially another two weeks of this! Not due until Wednesday but I am so ready for this LO it's untrue so any tips on how to get labour started much appreciated wink

CallingAllEngels Mon 19-May-14 08:50:31

M goes to sleep fibe now at 7pm after story, though in Nov and Dec it wasn't happening so we had to gradually move away - on bed, on chair, at end of bed, by door, outside door. The last few months I can just say goodnight, shut the door and go downstairs.

Our prob since October has been nightly waking and not going back to own bed. We've tried the softly softly approach, not talking, soothing him, bribery...but he also snuck back in. This time we got angry with him. Told hij very sternly at 2am that he was naughty, mama and papa are cross, put him b ack in bed j u st like we'd put him on the stairs during the day. He sat and wailed for a bit but didn't dare get back out of bed. Did in for about a week and (fx) has done the trick. He hasn't been in before 6.20 the last 10 days (and on work days we're up at 6.30).

Poor you, especially with the heat wave. Hope baby makes an appearance soon!

m was in fine fettle yesterday in public. Had about a million tantrums, fell hard onto paving and bit lip bumping his mouth on table, and got scratched on face next to his eye by a very young puppy (he was on his hands and knees pretending to be a dog....but who lets a scratchy bitey untrained puppy wander round with lots of tiny children about?). Another excellent tantrum at home because I tipped away the paddling pool water (that he proudly peed in). Ah, toddlers.

ipswichwitch Mon 19-May-14 09:13:41

Hi everyone!! Hope you're all well. Can't believe D is 5mo now - where did the time go? The boys are doing great. N still loves being big brother - he's very protective which is sweet, and will shove me out the way to get a cuddle with D!

N is going in this morning to have tonsils and adenoids out. Finally! The consultant says we should have a massive improvement in his sleep and the apnoea resolved so fingers x it works.

D is a wonderfully happy smiley little boy, such an easy baby compared to N. It helps to be organised and get out every day killa, even if it's just to the local park. I've relaxed my housework standards and go with the flow a bit more. There have been tough days - N having tantrums or D teething like crazy and feeding awkwardly, but on the whole it's great smile

CallingAllEngels Mon 19-May-14 21:03:52

Hope tonsils op went well ips

Good scan - strong heartbeat and measured excatly 8w so edd 29th Dec.

Of course ds had trouble going to bed and woke up while we were gone, so was downstairs with mil when we got back!

Engels that's great news grin

Hope op goes well Ipswitch nice to 'see' you smile

TallulahPumpkin Mon 19-May-14 22:21:41

Pen Sorry didn't see this before. Hope you managed to entertain on the plane (I'm a poet and I didn't know it wink). Lovely long distance planes show Peppa Pig blush. Also lots of circuits round the plane.

Chesh how did M's eating go?

Engles Go sleep! and congrats at 8wk scan.

Loving the toddler tamtrun descriptions; Seb's in fine company!!

Yay eng that's great grin

How did N's op go ips hope it was nice and straight forward and he's not feeling too bad afterwards

ipswichwitch Tue 20-May-14 20:59:05

Congrats Engels that's great news. Another Christmassy baby eh!

N's surgery went really well. He was so good and only freaked out when the sedation started to wear off just before they have the anaesthetic and again in recovery. DH stayed overnight with him and he came home this morning. We can already hear the difference in his breathing and that's with the post op swelling so should be even better once he's recovered. Have to keep him away from crowds/nursery/soft play an people with colds for 10 days so unless the weathers nice we could be climbing the walls in a few days!

CallingAllEngels Tue 20-May-14 21:15:54

M was exactly the same ips, went nuts when the anaesthetic wore off and was trying to rip his line out of his hand. Glad he's on the mend.

boiling here...phew. proper mini heatwave but wondering if we'll have storms tonight.

CheshireDing Wed 21-May-14 12:49:01

Strawberry we have mass whineing too (not sure if that's how you spell it), the other day P was just wondering up and down the hallway whining for no reason. I have had to say to her quite a few times recently "just stop the noise/whineing" sad

Very jealous of your lie in on Sunday Engels and very excited for your Christmas Baby. Does everyone in the Family/Friends know now? How is DH about it, chilled out ? Your stories about M do make me laugh (sorry not very helpful/supportive)

Killa is it still in there? If so have you tried the Raspberry Leaf Tea Bags and Tablets and pineapples and some floor scrubbing? grin worked for me with P and M they were both early.

My housework standards are now very low - I recommend a RobotVac for Aldi - I only vac the stairs now (I don't dust anyway - lazy)

Tallulah so far M has had broccoli, peppers, yoghurt, bread, toast, pear, apple, banana, orange, spaghetti, tomato, humous, cheese, boiled egg, nothing in the nappy yet so he is either storing it up or he is just mauling it rather than actually eating it (which is probably the case). Def harder when it's the second one though, with P we could watch her like a hawk, now we only notice when M starts coughing, poor guy grin

Glad everything went okay with N's op Ips. Amazing you can hear an improvement already, fab !

Great news on op Ipswitch grin

Baby is definitely still in there Cheshire, am 40+1 and waiting impatiently eating French fancies am going to try scrubbing kitchen floor in hopes it will start something off. It's that or sex shock

Midwife couldn't do sweep today as head isn't engaged so just need to wait and see how late this one is going to be now hopefully not as late as E was I cant cope with another week!

CheshireDing Thu 22-May-14 18:15:00

How big is number 2 likely to be if he/she doesnt turn up soonkilla shock sending baby eviction vibes grin

I know shock E was 8,10 and they say second is normally bigger....

Think I have had a show this afternoon so hoping that means it's imminent......

ipswichwitch Fri 23-May-14 08:54:23

Ooh let's hope LO is on the way then Killa
Fingers x

CallingAllEngels Fri 23-May-14 10:21:55

Fx killa

cheshire I'm glad to amuse you grin

TallulahPumpkin Fri 23-May-14 21:39:12

Come on babyKilla (erm, that sounds completely wrong!) hmm

Seb's discovered blowing raspberries on skin and spent about 5 mins blowing them on my neck/shoulder when I was trying to dry him after his bath tonight. I couldn't stop him as I was laughing so hard grin.

He's also a hugh Frozen fan now. Three times in a week already. But he assures me it's not overtaken Cars as his favourite film. So that's OK then!

W likes Frozen too tallulah although I think it's the songs he likes as he normally gets me to skip to them! He loves Shrek too (its the only film he's seen all the way through) and bits of Tangled but gets quite scared at the darker bits and asks me to make it go away. He loves the scene when they're on the boat with all the lanterns though. Despite the 'scary' bits he still asks for them though.

CallingAllEngels Sun 25-May-14 10:59:50

DS 's TV and films of choice are Bambi, Dumbo, Cars (known as Race Cars in our house!), Scooby Doo, the Gruffalo and occasionally Frozen.

He drove me crazy yesterday, some ridiculous tantrums again at stupid things (nappy changes, shoes on, shoes off, going outside, coming inside, not playing with toys, cue me putting his toys away and floods of tears, getting in the shower, me turning the shower off). Aaargh! Was just about ready to screM! And if he had called 'Mama' onemore time! Phew! He made up for it by sleeping through till 6.15, then crawling in with us for an hour and a half so we didn't have to get up till 8.

9 weeks today and feeling good!

Am finally home after hospital stay, DS2 (Jonah) is absolutely gorgeous but made a hell of an entrance into the world naughty boy!

E is very excited although possibly more about the presents he's getting at the moment.

I am battered, bruised and sleep deprived after 48hrs with minimal sleep and lots of intervention at the end but it was all worth it smile.

TallulahPumpkin Mon 26-May-14 22:20:07

Yey, well done Killa, congratulations thanks. Can't wait to hear the story - you can't say that and then not tell us grin. Get a bit of sleep first though...and a big slice of cake

ipswichwitch Mon 26-May-14 22:23:37

Congratulations Killa flowers
Hope you get plenty of rest now (as much as 2 DS's will allow!) and enjoy those lovely newborn snuggles

CheshireDing Mon 26-May-14 22:27:03

Awww loving his name killa, does he have a middle name too ?

Congratulations flowers looking forward to the story (better be gentle as there are still some babies to come yet) grin

Congrats killa lovely name smile hope you are on the mend quickly thanks

CallingAllEngels Tue 27-May-14 17:45:37

Congratulations killa !

Thanks all thanks

If you really want to hear about birth I'll try and keep it short and apologies MrsH and Engels but I am clearly just crap at giving birth blush

Due date last Wednesday. Crux started Friday early am, built up to quite regular then everything stopped around 6am. Spoke to hospital as thought my waters might be leaking, they said no just discharge (sorry!) Odd ctx in day but no pattern then from 4pm started again and built from every half hr to every 10 mins. Ctx then slowed down again. Called hospital as again thought waters gone as pink fluid, they said to head in to get checked even though ctx not at 5mins yet.

Went to hospital at 2am they confirmed waters had gone but ctx had stopped in car and had only had two in last hr. Had 3 close together while in exam room so they sent us up to ward to wait in room for them to build. Told would have to be induced 24hrs after waters broke if baby not out.

Waited in room all day, no ctx at all. Asked to be induced but told by very uninterested midwife (day shift) that labour ward wouldn't as too busy. No monitoring of baby after initial entry (angry).

Night shift came back (midwife who admitted us surprised we were still there) she monitored baby as soon as arrived. We asked again if we could start induction earlier and she said no problem! Pessary put in at nine pm. Ctx started again quite quickly and Stage 2 labour established by 11pm. Bloody painful, baby was OP position and ctx really strong. On labour ward given g&a and 5ml pethadine. Only 4cm dilated and ctx not regular. By this point is had 4 hrs sleep since Thursday night and was shattered.

Senior midwife suggested epidural which was done and we settled down for long wait (same happened with E who was OP and my ctx never regulated so we knew it could be long haul).

6am checked and only 4 possibly 5 cm dilated but baby happy and all ok, then suddenly heart rate dropped low twice. They put a clip on head (still 5cm dilated) and we watched heart rate drop from 140bpm to 47. Consultant called for emcs and we were rushed to theatre. Suddenly 11 people all round, transferred across bed and they check heart rate which was back at 140bpm. Consultant decided to take blood from baby to check if needed emcs or whether whatever causing distress had been moved during transfer. She discovered that I was fully dilated and head down so got ventouse and we pushed/pulled him out. He was taken by paediatric to be checked. I then had placenta stuck so after an hour of trying various things they had to physically remove it (bloody horrific) and then I finally got to see/ skin to skin/ feed my baby.

We had to stay in for observations for 24hrs as "you delivered 24hrs after your waters broke".

(I cannot figure out if there are risks to baby who isn't born within 24hrs if waters breaking, why the policy is to only start induction 24hrs after waters break...?)

We are home and fine now, I've for various antibiotics, injections and painkillers to take and feel very batttered and bruised but so thankful to have Jonah home safe.

Everyone at hospital was amazing except for this day midwife. It was very scary for a while and according to my notes it took me 8 mind to go from 5-10cm dilated (I think the shock!)

Oh my god that's so long I'm sorry...!

PenelopeLane Wed 28-May-14 11:10:18

Congrats Killa and hope you heal soon. It must have been hard to say the least. Jonah is a lovely name too smile

We watched Frozen recently although A was scared by the Snow Monster. The other movie we've watched is Lion King except the sad bits which he really liked but I've not let him watch again since he had a nightmare about hyenas. He's so scared by so much now! Not in an inhibiting way, just a bit of an active imagination.

We have recently had a lovely holiday to Samoa grin It was great, I was a tad worried about how it would be with 2 kids, but I had a fantastic time, as did the rest of the family as well. Turns out resort holidays are the way to go for us for the medium term! I'd love to go away again this year, but don't see it happening as going back to work in Sept sad

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 28-May-14 21:18:08

Hello all! Had to reset password from ages ago and never got round to it!

Huge congratulations killa lovely name and glad you are both home safe and well, if not a little battered and bruised!!
Glad to see little bean is sticking too engels!

All good with us. Still working away and endless fun with S. Reading about the tantrums from the other toddlers, I can confirm it does pass! We just seems to be getting passed the really bad tantrums. Seems her speech has taken another huge leap so don't know if it was down to frustration too. She is a very independent (and stubborn) little girl who I think believes is older than what she thinks!

We had a rough month end of April into May. She seemed to be very unwell on and off with sickness and back to accidents through the night after being dry during night for a month or so. Then it was a fight to get her to use the toilet, not wetting herself as such but holding it till she was bursting! After a trip to doctor and waiting a week for test results (due to gp not testing there and then!) it was discovered she had a really bad uti! Explains why she had been so ill and just generally miserable, she was probably in agony! Onto antibiotics but after the week was finished she was still crying in pain whe using toilet so had to take her back to OOH to get more AB's. The GP did phone me when her results came back to say that as it had potentially been left untreated for 3 weeks that she would have to go to the hospital to have her kidneys and buffer scanned to check for no damage/scarring. I felt truly awful for her that she had been suffering for so long! It only really became aparent to me when she just couldn't sit still like she had ants in her pants. I figured it was either thrush or uti but I'm annoyed the doctor we saw wouldn't test there but rather sent it away. Delayed the AB's for another week. Still waiting on her apt coming through but hopefully not be much longer!

Right I need a cup of tea. Hope everyone is well and will be back posting more often! smile

Hey dick good to 'see' you smile poor S that sounds horrible, is it an ultrasound she'll need to have? Kidney ones are pretty straight forward (W has a yearly one) , they scan from the front and then get then to roll over so they can scan from the back/side as well. They don't normally take long. Can't believe the GP didn't just test though I'm sure they can just do a dip test in the surgery and then send off if unclear (although luckily W has never had a UTI)

Gosh killa it must have been scary watching his heart rate drop like that. Glad everything was ok, hope your getting a relatively good amount of sleep.

Ahem duck sorry blush that's what I get for typing on my phone while in bed!

W says the funniest things to me sometimes, went to get him out of bed this morning and I still had my hair down (I usually wear it in a pony tail) he looked at me and said 'put your hair back' we had a bit of a chat and I tied it up and he gave me the biggest smile and said 'that's better, now you're mummy'
Funny how their little minds work sometimes!

Aw Strawberry that's so cute.

I often wonder where E picks things up from, he told me he was doing his exercises to make him strong the other night as he bobbed up and down - he certainly didn't learn that from me wink

PenelopeLane Wed 04-Jun-14 01:17:17

That's so cute! When I wear my hair tied up in a bun, A calls it my "hair hat" grin

TallulahPumpkin Tue 10-Jun-14 21:13:10

Quiet thread this week....

Seb can get the milk out the fridge; he gets a cup out, gets the milk out puts it all on the worktop and then comes to get me to pour it out. So sweet. He does love his milk. grin

Straw Love it.

CallingAllEngels Tue 10-Jun-14 21:21:56

Aargh...so hot and humid here since Friday. M back to waking up and strops at 4am. Massive thunderstom at 5 this morning as well.

11 w and had good scan on Friday. Due date is 28th Dec! Heading back to UK for a weekend with my DM. DF and DB are away so will be just us with M and my Dsis will pop in. Giving DH the gift of 4 nights uninterrupted sleep but he's still being a martyr about it. Good lord, if someone gave me the gift of 4 child free days I'd be in heaven!

the other day I said to M, "Do you like your dinner?" And he replied "I'd like a dessert!" Cheeky little bugger!

Is anyone else's DC still in nappies? We tried W in pants this weekend thinking he was ready as he does know when he needs the toilet he just doesn't say. I expected him to get wet a few times, hate it and get the idea but he didn't do one wee in the potty all weekend despite sitting on it regularly. He's now back in nappies! Have come to the conclusion that he's just not ready yet, guess we'll have to try again in a couple of weeks! He looks like he's getting to big for nappies though iykwim, bit I guess he'll get it in his own time.

Hope everyone had a nice sunny weekend smile

CallingAllEngels Mon 16-Jun-14 17:09:27

M is still in nappies. Going to have a crack at potty training in summer holiday.

TallulahPumpkin Mon 16-Jun-14 21:22:28

Seb still in nappies. It's a bit hit and miss about knowing when he needs to go.

CallingAllEngels Mon 16-Jun-14 21:41:53

M will actually deny doing a poo. At the moment anything that has taken place in the potty has been total chance!

mrsh not heard from you for a while - how are you getting on?

quiet thread this week, month, year! Only on 18 pages! We2'd better get a move on - Duck'll be making a new thread for 3rd birthdays before you know it grin

CheshireDing Mon 16-Jun-14 22:09:59

Was ok until i got to the bit about the placenta killa, wanted to cross my legs then ! Are you having a third the. ? ;)

DH has been away this weekend,P was randomly sick all over the bathroom Friday night and M is a rubbish sleeper. Too knackered to write anything interestjng, sorry sad

CallingAllEngels Tue 17-Jun-14 18:29:46

Sounds like hard work chesh .

I took M to UK this weekend to spend some time with my dm and dsis. DH got the whole weekend to himself, no 6am wake up calls and the bugger was really soppy when I got back and said he hates being on his own <dreams about a childfree weekend> .Still, I suppose this means he appreciates me!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 17-Jun-14 22:06:59

Haha! Not long till 3rd birthdays starting!!! Crazy!

All well with us. S had her apt at hospital for uti which was a bit 'hmmm'. Felt like I got a lecture for her not drinking enough etc. she had an ultrasound on Monday to check her kidneys and thankfully all looking good. Will have a follow up at hospital but hopefully that's it and those uti's were just 'bad luck'.

It took S about 2-3 days before we really got anything on toilet. Don't think she could work out how to relax properly in order to let the pee out, iykwim? Perfect weather for garden nakedness!! grin

Currently 24 degrees in S room. She's sleeping in pants and t shirt. Had to take duvet out her room and just give her a sheet but she was arguing that she wanted her duvet as she was 'cold' blush

CallingAllEngels Wed 18-Jun-14 18:56:00

Glad to hear her scan was okay duck.

Feeling absolutely knackered here. Dh has just gone out for evening course so I am collapsing on tne sofa and working on a toblerone.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 18-Jun-14 20:01:06

It's def the heat! I have zero energy just now!!

Hope you've had some decent sleep now chesh an P is ok

Glad S's San was ok duck

W had his kidney check up at Southampton today and his consultant is happy not to see us again grin he has referred us back to a peads consultant at Winchester for a check up in 18 months but we don't have to go to Southampton anymore. Very pleased not only because it means they are happy with W but because I hate Southampton General!

Just found out Jonah has hip dysplasia in both hips so is going to have to wear a harness and if that doesn't work he'll be in a plaster cast for 3 months.... Poor little mite I can't bear it for him even though I know he won't remember a thing hmm

Sorry, not sure how but my phone hadn't updated thread since 10th so i missed lots of posts!

Cheshire hope P ok now and you've had some sleep. No. 3 is definitely off the table after recent experience I think!

Strawberry that's great news re W you must be so relieved.

Duck good news about S scan. Don't even want to think about E turning 3 it's far too old for my baby!

Engels I'm with your DH wink If I had a weekend at home without DH and boys I would be miserable (after the first night of excitement at being able to have a bath in peace....)

CallingAllEngels Thu 19-Jun-14 06:02:35

Great news strawb

A friend's DD had that killa she's a few months younger than ds. Had to wear it for a few months but absolutely fine now.

Big hugs killa it's so heartbreaking isn't it when they need something medical doing isn't it. You are right though he won't remember it, doesn't make it easier for us to watch though

Yes exactly that strawberry.

Brace is on and apart from crying when it was fitted J seems fine. Fingers crossed now that it works!

PenelopeLane Fri 20-Jun-14 12:10:46

Hello ladies smile

Killa sorry to hear about J, that must be tough. If it helps a girl A's age in my coffee group had this, and now she runs faster than A! Fx it works.

I don't know if I'd enjoy a child free weekend or not! A friend of mine has every Sunday to herself now (custody a