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Jan 2013: Part 5 - Food is for fun - Sleep is for wimps...

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Pascha Sat 03-Aug-13 09:50:51

Here we go again

lollipoppi Sat 03-Aug-13 10:00:57

I can't believe we're on another thread already!

Wonder where everybody else went? Do you remember tinkle? She was having a really rough time with her DD, hope she is better now!

Apple, is DH still off? Maybe another trip to the park with kids is in order so you can rest

Lora1982 Sat 03-Aug-13 10:11:46

Bad mother moment... he USED to fall back sleep after his morning boob. Well anyway this morning he was having a sit up in bed while I rested my eyes (not the proper sleep we all crave just eyes shut) and I open my eyes and he's grinning with his arms hanging off the bed!

Good news though dp left me half an easter egg for breakfast.

Pascha Sat 03-Aug-13 10:11:54

Daniel is covered in marmite toast. And he's just let out the most enormous burp! Aren't babies disgusting?

I remember Tinkle, its been a while hasn't it? Not since march as far as I can see. I hope they're doing better now.

Nipple biting? shock Dan has better manners thank goodness, he's never tried that one.

Pascha Sat 03-Aug-13 10:17:33

Hehe Lora My lie-in this fine Saturday morning consisted of DH snoring, DS1 inbetween us watching Postman Pat on the iPod and Daniel clawing at my boobs and twisting violently round trying desperately to see the programme while feeding. Who knew nipples could stretch that far? hmm

I rescind my earlier statement re better manners. He's just dangerous in a different way.

CreepyCrawly Sat 03-Aug-13 10:35:32

A new thread already?! Thanks pascha.

Oh yes, stretchy nipples. If the dog so much as breathes, Nancy has to watch him. I think he taps around the place on purpose now.

Babies are definitely disgusting. We've just had more poo than I ever thought was possible. Pretty sure all the poos she's ever done added together wouldn't be as much as this one was.

Happy Saturday!

Oh glorious, it is hard sad misery loves company!

Thanks for new thread, pascha! C also is very distracted by everything in the world. Someone called it niplash - v accurate!

<whisper> we had a good night. Kind of. She was very unsettled from 7(!) until 11(!) - a lot of patting back to sleep, but she slept, albeit in our bed, from 11 until 3, and then didn't wake again until ds went galloping about at 6:30.

It was heaven. I wonder if I'm going to have to embrace co-sleeping.

octanegirl Sat 03-Aug-13 12:10:01

Oh Bunty - but I love your description of C being distracted by everything in the world. Same here. I get niplash as he suddenly yanks his head away to stare excitedly at the ceiling....
On the weaning front - some creamed spinach was actually consumed. I know this because I saw it 24hrs later.....

Cejay8 Sat 03-Aug-13 14:21:01

Just wanted to say I always keep up with the threads I just don't post very often at all hmm Perhaps some of the others do the same. S is just over 6 months now but no real interest in rolling yet and not sitting unsupported. She loves sitting in her bumbo watching her mad brother running around grin its great entertainment!

I seem to be doing a mixture of weaning methods and she's sort of on 3 small meals a day now (thanks mostly to Ella!)

S is doing great it's the 3 year old who's driving me crazy!

EagleRay Sat 03-Aug-13 14:35:39

Hi - here I am attempting to post more regularly - where better to start than a new thread smile

Baby Eagleray is 6 months old now and we are very familiar with niplash, along with scratching of boobs. And honking too - she literally grabs it repeatedly like she's honking a horn (and ocasionally my wobbly tummy too). Two little teeth appeared last week and I had my first boob bite last night - ouch.

Weaning going well - mixture of methods, but mostly purees from the freezer with the occasional finger food. Going to try and cook some new recipes today (cooking a chilli later and going to make a mini one for her, minus the hot bit)

Sleeping is interesting. She absolutely will not go down before 10pm, and is fed to sleep in my bed (we cosleep). Then she wakes again around 1/2pm, then 4, and then wake/feeds hourly til I get up! Really hoping for some improvements, but no idea where to start. Going down at 7pm or sleeping a bit longer in the early hours would be great but not sure which one to tackle first! (the only reason I'm still alive is because I mastered the art of feeding while I sleep early on...)

How is everyone doing with weight loss? I had a crisis at Easter where I realised it was starting to go up again, so did WW and have now lost 20lb since then. Long way still to go as although pretty much back at pre-pg weight, I was overweight to start with, so want to lose another 20lb. Funny thing is, back at easter I had to really, really limit my food to lose anything. I no longer watch what I'm eating and it's coming off fairly fast hmm

Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend

glorious Sat 03-Aug-13 16:05:14

Thanks for the thread pascha , I like the title. And thanks for the sympathy bunty . We were up at 445 this morning even with the cosleeping and she didn't settle until 11 so with a few feeds in between it was not a good night. Glad yours was ok.

Welcome back all! No point asking me about sleep eagle . Well done on the weight.

Welcome back eagle and cejay.

Thanks for new thread pascha!

Hope all having a good day.

Re sleep Ivt still goes down fine around 6.30-7 she even self settles but will no konger sleep properly after 1 am.

Dp not much help. He went out with his bro last night and i found him in the kitchen making cheese on toast at 2 am hmm.

Ah niplash, never heard it called that! There is a lot of that going on here.

Tell me its nearly september..the bickering is driving me demented sad

happyhow Sat 03-Aug-13 17:07:35

Thanks Pascha!

Bailey gave us a long lie this morning which was great. He's getting much better at sleeping during the day too although I really wish he would go longer at night.

Still having the bottle battle. Have been trying him before every feed and he won't do much more apart froma couple of sucks and chewing the teet. I'm going to keep persevering though. Is it bad to wish my supply would dip so he would start taking the bottle because he would know he'd be guaranteed milk that way?!

Had a lovely night last night. Had the in laws plus hubby's grandma round for a BBQ and prosecco. Sat outside until 10.25pm! Got a chiminea in the dobbies sale last week and it kept us warm although we absolutely stank of smoke!

lollipoppi Sat 03-Aug-13 17:37:59

Welcome back all!

Had an eventful afternoon, went for lunch with the girls, ds1 decided to inhale the pepper and threw up everywhere!! Then wet his pants as he was so upset, Meanwhile DD was screaming, I think my kids were walking contraception for my friends this afternoon!! They looked shock

Got home and ds1 decided to tidy up his bedroom by putting EVERYTHING he owns in the bath!
Wine tonight!!!

Loveitall Sat 03-Aug-13 19:34:32

Evening all...we took ds for a trip to the seaside today which was lovely, tho I think dh got a bit annoyed as I was always checking the parasol on the pushchair and making sure he was covered completely in shade! (I think was poss over checking lol).

With weaning, so far ds has been having hipp organic jars mainly, tho next week I endeavour to have him eating more our meals and veg purée etc. am now wondering when to start him on finger foods like toast?

Lostbobbles Sat 03-Aug-13 20:53:58

Thanks for new thread Pascha

Nice to read all the updates of the non reg posters. Well done on weight loss eagle and cejay, I totally feel your pain with the older sibling situ, mine is currently the cause of major hypertension!

Also back in the shitty sleep club not that I ever escaped further than the holding pen lost count of the number of times I was up last night.

Did have a good eve out with the girls though and had nice day out for lunch with a few of the school parents/kids.

Weaning going ok here, she much prefers to feed herself and gagging is improving so I'm trying give her more finger foods but I'm just not brave enough for a full on dinner on the high chair tray and to subsequently end up in every orifice yet.... I know, such a wimp but the MESS

PS the fridge is bare of divine chocolate, bad times waitrose tomorrow to do mass re stock

salt1 Sat 03-Aug-13 21:28:50

Hello all, floss is 6 months tomorrow. Weaning going well and she loves green beans and Avocado. Sleep still crappy at night though pretty good in day time. Would give money for an unbroken night though x

Welcome back to our non regular posters!

For those wishing to do blw but CBA with the mess, I've started putting c on the floor on a splat mat if I'm letting her feed herself fully that meal - last night was pasta with a cherry tomato sauce, whacked it and her (bare apart from nappy) on the splat mat. She ate loads, and when she was done, a quick go over either in the sink or with baby wipes mess dependant, shove the mat on a rinse cycle when everything solid has been shaken into bin. Bingo!

Weight coming off exceptionally slowly. I'm averaging about 1400 cals a day, still breast feeding a lot, and losing a lb to 2lb a week. I did put half a stone on at the start of june due to birthday celebrations, which didnt help.

It's because I'm still feeding as much. Once she's down to morning and night I'm hoping it'll speed up, and once she's finished, god knows when, it'll drop off.

Well, that was the experience last time!

bunty i'm nicking that idea! She had brocolli and mash a few days ago and needed a bath afterwards! Took ages to clear everything up!

<doesn't mention weight, its gaining weight that i struggle with>

EagleRay Sat 03-Aug-13 22:54:53

Happyhow I'm having a similar battle with bottles here. She used to be given formula top ups but then became a bottle refuser once she was EBF. Been trying to give her water with meals as she's suffering a bit with constipation and so far tried doidy cup, sippy cup and bottle with size 4 teat, all with v limited success. I did get her to take 50ml of milk earlier from the bottle after a bit of faffing so we're getting there. Good luck and keep going!

Re weaning and mess - I find some days I can cope and some days not. Every now and again I let her coat herself and her high chair with mush, but most days I coat her in bibs and keep a firm hold of the spoon (she still holds it but I don't let her snatch it off me!). I'm a bit gutted that a few of her nice clothes have become wrecked with splodges of yellow (cannot remember for the life of me which food it was) and no amount of hot water and Vanish will remove them!

That's a pretty good rate of weight loss Bunty - I'm losing about the same. Some weeks it feels like not much progress has been made, but it's always in a downward direction.

Angielka Sun 04-Aug-13 07:57:08

Welcome back everyone.

Oh bunty I'm taking that idea too. Got a splashmat ordered actually, just missed delivery on Friday so have to pick it up form the post office tomorrow.

Weight is a disaster. As soon as I stop breastfeeding I'm trying that 5:2 thing.

Happy Sunday everyone

CreepyCrawly Sun 04-Aug-13 08:04:59

Welcome back eagle & cejay

Love the splash mat tip bunty, will give that a go. I'm hating the mess!

Well done on the weight loss! I finished the 30 day shred and am definitely more toned, but still wobbly. Gonna work my butt off and eat healthier starting tomorrow. My goal is to look amazing for my sisters wedding in march.

Better night here, for Nancy anyway! She did 7 til 7 with a feed at 4. I couldn't bloody sleep though because I kept waiting for her to wake up.

Have a good Sunday everyone!

Tugstonia Sun 04-Aug-13 09:38:36

Morning all! I lost you all for a bit there but glad to have found the new thread smile

I've been feeling a lot brighter the last week or so but went to the GP anyway who was lovely and sent me for a load of blood tests to check hormone levels and various other things etc. Am seeing her again next week so will discuss further, but I really don't think it's PND. More likely a combination of crazy post-pregnancy hormones and sleep deprivation.

Sleep-wise, madam has taken to going to bed (well, my bed!) really easily at 7ish but then always wakes up at 1.30 and 5am, every morning. I've tried a dream feed at 11pm but doesn't make any difference. This morning she did go back to sleep after the 5am wake-up and also managed to sleep in her cot between 1 and 5 so something's improving. Sorry to others with sleep-averse bubbas.

She's really enjoying her food - I'm mostly giving her mushed up food but also started giving her finger food like toast fingers, cheese sticks and rice cakes and she gives them a go. Need to educate DP on weaning though as just caught him mixing her ready brek with semi-skimmed cow's milk...

Tomorrow I'm starting back at a bootcamp style exercise class I used to love pre-baby in the hope that it'll help me shift the last stone of baby weight. Creepy well done on the Shred, I'm going to crack that open again too I think. Exercise also really helps lift my mood so got to be worth a go.

Anyway this is turning into an essay! Have a lovely Sunday ladies

Lora1982 Sun 04-Aug-13 10:25:36

I remember being lied to about how boob feeding will help me lose weight. Whats this 5:2 thing?

Birdies Sun 04-Aug-13 10:35:21

I remember tinkle too - i hope things got better. complicated hasn't posted for ages too - she was my 'stress over small baby on scan' buddy.

Like the thread title pascha!

I can still hardly believe it but X slept 8pm to 6am. A record 10 hours in a row! The only thing different was she had her long nap in the morning yesterday rather than lunchtime. And she's having another long morning nap now. Really hope this continues......

bunty glad sleep is better for you as well. lost and glorious hopefully things will improve for you too soon.

creepy how did you fit in the 30 day shred?! I've got the DVD but don't know how I would manage it!

tugs glad you're feeling better.

Loveitall Sun 04-Aug-13 10:55:18

Morning all,

Another good sleep night here. I think we have cracked the sleeping through for now...goes down at half six and wakes up between. 6 and 7. Hurrah!

Ladies who are weaning with purees, mushed up food etc when did you start to give finger food?

Lora1982 Sun 04-Aug-13 11:13:45

Ive given him finger food from when I trust that he chewed.... I still watch him like a hawk though, I should probably just let him get on with it.

My current problem is him waking and screaming because he's rolled around and got stuck in a corner

CreepyCrawly Sun 04-Aug-13 11:34:55

birdies I did it first thing every morning, after Nancy's first feed. She either went back to bed or laughed at encouraged me.

lora I'm still seething about that lie too.

I wonder where bealos got to, she was quite regular on the antenatal thread.

We now have fake coughing here, because she's clearly not getting enough attention hmm

Loveitall Sun 04-Aug-13 11:39:42

Thanks lora, he's not really chewing yet, so will leave a few days and think again about it.

Angielka Sun 04-Aug-13 11:48:12

lora the 5:2 is basically you eat what you like for five days and then have a limited number of calories on two fasting days. It seems to be pretty effective. Google it, there's quite a lot on it out there.

link here

glorious Sun 04-Aug-13 12:55:32

Yay tugs , glad you're feeling better and that the gp was good. I also find exercise helpful.

What a good sleep birdies . Ellen is one of the youngest babies as she was born on 31st January so hoping she'll turn the corner soon too...

Loveitall Sun 04-Aug-13 14:02:52

Aww glorious, your lo shares a bday with my ds x

Lora1982 Sun 04-Aug-13 17:46:27

Creepy we've had fake coughin from about three months :-D we now have 'cough conversations' together which he thoroughly enjoys.

I've had a look at the 5:2 thing and can say I'll start it with a fast day tomorrow. Looks like its doable so I'll give it a go!

Who was it that was in the paper for the local midwives?

Loveitall Sun 04-Aug-13 20:18:04

We had fake coughs from about 3 months as well, latest favourite sound is sucking breath in and making a sound to accompany that...sounds like he is struggling to breath, but isn't, he just likes the sound! Hate it immensely esp when he makes it waking me up at 5 in the morning lol

Lora1982 Sun 04-Aug-13 22:00:26

Im sat here trying to recreate the sound loveit... think ive got it :-D

Annoyed cos dp went bed with a hangover at 8 leaving me to do the night shi f t again. Hes done one in the whole seven months. Im trying to get a bath because im having the coil put in tomorrow and clearly want to make a good impression, that im tidy and respectable...

Angielka Mon 05-Aug-13 07:46:06

Lora off this afternoon to have the coil fitted too. Tell DP to sort it out - you deserve a night off once in a while.

glorious Mon 05-Aug-13 08:16:59

Good day for being born love smile E does that awful sound too, perhaps because it always gets a reaction?!

happyhow Mon 05-Aug-13 08:17:16

Next baby is being combination fed. This a fucking joke.

And we were up half the night.

lollipoppi Mon 05-Aug-13 08:55:19

Oh no happy hmm

Well done on the weight loss and diets!

Horrible rainy day here today so having a nice chilled day, DD and DS both have colds ..... Again!

Had my first fright holy fucking shit moment last night when bathing DD, she swallowed some water and started choking on it, threw up everywhere, including in the bath that DS1 was still in, que ds1 screaming ect ect ect, you can imagine how the rest goes confused

Birdies Mon 05-Aug-13 09:26:36

The sleeping through lasted one night. Knackered. Why does a baby sleep 10 hours in a row one day and then not a lot the next?! Zzzzzz

Oh well at least I'm not alone happy!

lolli that sounds scary

happyhow Mon 05-Aug-13 10:58:25

He's not getting any better with the formula. Not interested in bottles at all. Took a little from his sippy cup last night but not much. Have tried using expressed milk too but he's not having that either. Going to get a different coloured sippy cup for milk as I don't want him to stop drinking water which he's really good at. Tried flavouring the milk with vanilla, then raspberry, then vanilla and cinnamon...

And he bit me this morning and just giggled when I gave him into trouble...

On the weight loss, I'm 15lbs down on my pre-pregnancy weight. I can't really see where it's come off though. I'd like to lose the same again if I can. Had a 6 week 'break' from weight watchers somehow managed to keep my weight stable and I've been back on it the last 2 weeks and lost 4lbs. smile

Had a lovely day yesterday at and agricultural/country show. Hubby got to teach Bailey all about diggers etc so he's happy. Got him a little yellow safety vest for when he's older that says "Daddy's little helper" on the back - it's very cute!

Lora1982 Mon 05-Aug-13 11:26:55

Happy does he have a dummy at all?

Telling dp the coil doesnt work until he's done a night shift. Sod.

Meringue33 Mon 05-Aug-13 12:07:40

Caught you up!

Sounds like a mixed bag on the sleep front! This LO is still teething like mad, I feel so sorry for him. Up several times in the night. He is gurning and grimacing like an early nineties raver sad

He has two teeth and it looks like several more are arriving at once.

Weaning going v well, he is hungry! Now above the 75th centile when he started on the 9th. It's amazing how quickly they learn to hold stuff too, he can now self feed mangoes, melon, banana, toast fingers and has just about got the sippy cup figured out!

I really hate the clear ups though. Plus he screams whenever I try and clean him up even with a warm cloth.

Biting: hasn't happened again yet! It better not either!

Weight: luckily our scales are broken!! Shred not out of its wrapper smile

happyhow Mon 05-Aug-13 12:20:37

No dummy Lora. I tried him with it a couple of times but it got spat out pretty quickly and I couldn't really be bothered trying to force it.

Birdies Mon 05-Aug-13 13:09:51

Wow that's great re the sippy cup merignue. I've held it for her so far - how did you help him learn to use it?

No teeth here. DD1 was very early with hers and had a mouthful by now. Not that I'm complaining, I don't fancy having bitten nips!

Is everyone on a routine of daytime naps and feeds? It's still a bit random for me although I do get an hour a day when both DDs are asleep over lunch (thank goodness).

Birdies Mon 05-Aug-13 13:11:45

Actually one other question for all the mummy's with 2 babies at home all day - I posted on the parenting forum but didn't get many replies. How much time do you spend playing with them? Trying to get rid of the guilt of maybe not doing enough smile

And how much TV do they watch?

lollipoppi Mon 05-Aug-13 14:03:16

No teeth here yet either, think ones one the way though!

Birdies, I wish I had more time to play with them both really.
When DD naps, which only lasts for about 40mins, I run round trying to have a quick tidy, then spend whatever time I have left playing with DS1.
When DD awake I try and involve them in the same thing (which is usually keeping DD occupied)

I've not quite mastered getting them to sleep at the same time hmm

I feel incredibly guilty on a daily basis about how little I get to play with DS1 now compared to before DD
I took him to the cinema yesterday as a special mummy an cole day which was lovely smile

lollipoppi Mon 05-Aug-13 14:05:29

Oh and I'm ashamed to say the TV is "mostly" always on in the background confused

Hormonalhell Mon 05-Aug-13 14:55:02

Hi I am also one that's dropped of the radargrin mainly because I never seemed to be able to keep up with threads (difficult on my phone) but I do read regularly to see how all the babies and mums are getting on.

Sorry not wanting to brag honestly and the reason I don't post much is because Charlie is a very good sleeper and has been for months (he's almost 7 months now). It's probably a good job as I'm one parent and so nobody to share night duties with. He weighs 18lb 5oz and loves his grubgrin

The only problem I have is he gets bored very quick now n struggle to think of things to do. He's not sitting unsupported but loves his baby walker.

<waves> Hello Bunty, Apple, lolli, lost bobbles, Happy, creepy, glorious, meringue, salt n anybody else I've missedgrin

Birdies Mon 05-Aug-13 15:38:17

Hi hormonal!

Well we'll let you off having a good sleeper seeing as you have to manage on your own grin

lolli you have made me feel much better smile

Birdies Mon 05-Aug-13 15:38:55

Ps who else is a stay at home mum (out of curiosity)?

Pascha Mon 05-Aug-13 15:56:25

Me, Birdies.

Me too birdies!

Hi hormonal. Glad its going well.

Ivy finally slept well last night after a day at Drayton manor. So clearly the way to a good nights sleep is to be out all day!

Loveitall Mon 05-Aug-13 17:00:13

Hi all, have been busy last couple of days as we are decorating ds bedroom finally as hubby is determined to move him into it by the end of the summer...I would quite happily keep him next to me lol.

He spent the day at me dsis house today while we hit the decorating, they had a blast.

I'm a working mum but hubby is a sahd.

Loveitall Mon 05-Aug-13 17:02:06

lora glad you got the sound figured out, I bet that was fun doing it :D

Hormonalhell Mon 05-Aug-13 18:10:22

Thanks birdies smile hello again and pascha too. Hard to believe our babes are closer to 1 now. Remember comparing labour pains like was last week grin

Thanks for the new thread Pascha.

We've been away camping for the weekend. The weather has been great and dd mostly behaved herself. She wouldn't sleep in the travel cot though so she shared the airbed with me and dp had to sleep on the floor.

She pooed out a whole piece of sweet corn today <proud mummy>

Meringue33 Mon 05-Aug-13 19:17:25

Birdies think he just figured it out thru trial and error. Not totally au fait yet but he was briefly holding it with both hands and sooking out the juice! Taken four weeks to get there.

Lora1982 Mon 05-Aug-13 19:58:52

Aww bugsy we had a sweetcorn day today aswell. Gave it him saturday anticipating its arrival yesterday so made dp do his nappy all day just so I could see the disgust on his face

Cejay8 Mon 05-Aug-13 20:04:57

Birdies, I feel guilty too about how little time and patience I now have for DS. I've found he loves those Orchard games, like 'Shopping List' so I play those with him with DD on my lap - he loves it and only takes about 10 minutes wink. Other than that it's his train set or happyland and as he's outgrown naps I put a film on for an hour. DH often works long hours so some days have been hard going; I find the days go better if I go out, even if I don't feel like it! Thankfully DD is very content and doesn't complain too often. DS was the opposite!

I'm expecting to go back to 'work' (like this is a picnic!) in January - I work 3 days a week, which I find a reasonable balance.

We have 3 bottom teeth here since 4 months! She was very clingy for a couple of days, but all gone quiet since. She's growing up too fast, life goes by too quickly hmm

Loveitall Mon 05-Aug-13 21:32:57

Ds really wasn't keen on the sippy cup so haven't given it to him for a few days, I must try him again when it's not so hot so it doesn't matter if he doesn't drink a lot of water

Birdies Mon 05-Aug-13 21:36:26

I love seeing whats in the poo! i like weetabix poo as it looks exactly like weetabix grin

Does anyone else's baby prefer sweet things to savoury?

So, the other SAHMs, do you have a set routine each day?

Birdies Mon 05-Aug-13 21:37:41

Ps cejay I agree if I don't go out I start to go a bit loopy

Lora1982 Mon 05-Aug-13 22:16:49

For a while he definitely preferred sweet things. He'd cry at peas and brocolli sad he's coming around now though. I think its because formula and boob milk are sweet arent they, also apparently babies have more taste buds than us.

happyhow Tue 06-Aug-13 17:08:54

It may have taken the best part of an hour but I've just gotten Bailey to drink nearly 50ml of formula! Woohoo!!! Long may this continue. now he'll get some boob as a reward coz one of them is about to burst!

Today is a good day.

Loveitall Tue 06-Aug-13 18:44:01

Yay, clever little man. My little man actually drank out of his sippy cup today....good day all round. He is shattered tonight. He fell asleep on dh and I got him changed, ready for bed without waking him! He upstairs having a dream feed now as he so zonked lol.

lollipoppi Tue 06-Aug-13 19:24:27

smile Happy and love it!! I think it just takes them some getting use to it doesn't it

DD has been really out of sorts today, not feeding and crying a lot think its her teeth coming through

lolli ivy has been ofd today too. Woke up for feedat 5 then cried in cot instead of going back to sleep while madly stuffing her snuggly into her mouth! More teeth. At least if she keeps this up she will have a full set by her birthday <clutches at straws>

happy meant to say yay on the formula smile

Lora1982 Tue 06-Aug-13 22:46:34

Well done for your perseverance happy.. spose you had to though :-D

I dont get the full boob feeling and they are definitely floppy now... after much reading though im not worried apparently it happens but its still working. Got two shocked faces when I said how old he was today their babies were months older and much smaller so he's clearly not starving so I sharnt worry.

We went to a farm today and he had a good stare at the sheep and quail bird things but was not overly impressed with his first go on swings.

Anyone tried bubbles with them yet? I love the reaction we get from him.

happyhow Wed 07-Aug-13 00:37:20

He's fucked up his good day by not sleeping and we're only at 12.35am... Been awake with him since 11.15pm. I'd only been asleep 30 mins. sad

Meringue33 Wed 07-Aug-13 09:28:32

Mad night. Perfect storm of teething, cold, crawling in sleep and pushing out little pebbly poos sad

Lora mine likes swings and bubbles!

Meringue33 Wed 07-Aug-13 09:29:24

Btw hi to all the old and new faces! Hi Hormonal smile

glorious Wed 07-Aug-13 10:50:19

I'm totally at the end of my tether sad Her sleep is just getting worse and worse. Bedtime routine starts at 545 but she won't sleep until 730/8. She's up every hour at least until whenever I bring her into bed. Then she snacks all night and I get backache. Up wanting to play by 530 every morning. Won't nap without a huge fight and generally only in the sling with me walking. This morning she hasn't slept yet and I'm just too tired to carry her. She's teething and I've almost drowned her trying to get calpol in.

We've tried routine, we've tried going with her cues, she generally isn't hungry most of the night so I only feed her when too exhausted to do the whole shush/pat/cuddle thing. We have blackout blinds, white noise doesn't help.

Please somebody say she will just start sleeping one day soon. A friend was complaining about 2 wakings between 7 and 7 yesterday and I just wanted to cry.

Lora1982 Wed 07-Aug-13 11:07:11

Have you tried scrapping the bedtime routine at 6 and just let her tire herself out til later? Dexter doesnt have a set bed time I get him ready about half 7 has a yoghurt or fruit thing and boob then I wait for the tired whinging etc which start no later that half 9.

Lora1982 Wed 07-Aug-13 11:09:27

He has a nap for about hour and half/two hours at 6ish and after his breakfast. Then the big sleep after 9

glorious Wed 07-Aug-13 11:12:09

That's what we did until her sleep went wrong lora so I was trying something else but I guess it's not working. She is sleepy by 615 though.

Pascha Wed 07-Aug-13 12:53:39

Oh Glorious sad. How are her daytime naps? I've heard that the better they sleep during the day, the better they get at night.

Wish I didn't get full boobs anymore Lora, mine are uncomfortably full a lot of the time still and I can hit targets from 5 feet at least with my milk. I've just had to order a cupsize bigger nursing bras. I'm sure with DS1 I was back in normal bras by 9 months.

Birdies Wed 07-Aug-13 13:47:57

Poor you glorious. Firstly yes it will get better, and secondly sleep deprivation is shit and the only way I can manage it myself is to drink lots of water and stay as busy as possible (going out and things). And remember it does always get better eventually. Just allow yourself to be zombiefied in the meantime.

Most babies this age apparently need to sleep for half an hour about 90 minutes after waking, then a lunchtime longer nap. I feed X back to sleep after 30 minutes of the lunchtime one as she always wakes, but then she stays asleep up to 2 hours. Then she has a half hour around 5pm and asleep by 8pm. She wakes 2 times in the night so I haven't 100% cracked the sleep thing yet, but the first two naps of the day are really important. They need about 3 hours a day in total.

X also wakes very early each morning. I leave her until she's tired exactly 45 mins later and then feed her back to sleep. I just count that as a nighttime waking.

None of this may help you, but just in case!

glorious Wed 07-Aug-13 14:26:18

Thanks pascha and * birdies *.

I've been working really hard on the daytime naps but she's so reluctant. That's why I end up walking for hours on end because it's the only way she'll reliably fall asleep in the day / stay asleep longer than 40 mins.

birdies that's roughly what I'm aiming at and I ignore her at 530 until she cries and treat it as night until 7 (no talking or eye contact). Doesn't seem to help.

I do really appreciate the suggestions, I just don't seem to be able to convince DD to follow them!

glorious Wed 07-Aug-13 14:27:09

Oh and the sympathy is great smile thanks

Tugstonia Wed 07-Aug-13 15:50:12

Glorious your dd sounds exactly like mine. Yours was born on 31st Jan wasn't she? Mine was born 30th Jan so maybe it's a 'wonder' week thing? I'm hoping so because then it means an end is in sight! I really sympathise flowers brew wine

glorious Wed 07-Aug-13 16:07:03

Maybe that's it tugs. And they were both overdue weren't they. I really hope so as up until about 3.5 months she slept well considering.

brew thanks wine to you too, especially if I'm right in thinking you're working some of the time too? No wonder you're not feeling as positive as you might.

glorious Wed 07-Aug-13 16:07:32

p.s. well remembered on the date!

Tugstonia Wed 07-Aug-13 17:04:29

Thanks glorious. Yes dd was 12 days overdue. Not sure what that means in terms of wonder weeks but there's got to be some kind of special growing going on! She seems to have got really long in the last few days and at last weigh in was nearly 20lbs... She definitely doesn't need all the night feeds but like you I just can't face the shh pat at 3am. This morning I was up 2-4am trying to settle her and ended up feeding her anyway in desperation. I'm working very sporadically at the mo so at least I can have the odd daytime nap. When are you going back to work (if you are)?

Birdies Wed 07-Aug-13 17:25:29

22.5 - 26.5 weeks old based on due date is a big wonder week. Does that apply to your babies?

Birdies Wed 07-Aug-13 17:26:35

If so, here's the signs!

Cries more, more often or longer;
Asks for more attention;
Sleeps less or worse and eats less;
Has mood-swings;
Is not pleased with many things.

Birdies Wed 07-Aug-13 17:27:02

Sounds like me actually, except I eat more not less haha!

Birdies Wed 07-Aug-13 17:29:45

28.5-30.5 is a 'fussy period'. That applies to X at the mo. it says.....

Fussy and irritable behaviour as around 29 or 30 weeks is not a telltale sign of another leap. Your baby has simply discovered that his mommy can walk away and leave him behind. Funny as it may sound, this is progress. It is a new skill. He is learning about distances.

glorious Wed 07-Aug-13 17:40:17

2-4 sad tugs . I remember now, we were due date buddies. Glad the work isn't too full on.

Tee hee birdies me too. She's 27 weeks tomorrow so 29 on Friday by official EDD (less by mine). And this has been pretty much continuous since about 13/14 weeks so either she didn't really recover from the last one and is being slow on this one or there's more going on. I'd love to think that was it though.

glorious Wed 07-Aug-13 17:41:59

Cross post. Well perhaps it's the fussy period. She definitely notices when I leave which is quite recent.

Hi everybody, I was on the original ante-natal thread but got a bit lost along the way. I have been reading posts and trying to keep up though.

We have pretty awful sleep, too - naps are awful and usually involve a lot of screaming from DS, which breaks my heart as he is so obviously tired but just doesn't seem able to drop off. He wakes frequently in the night for feeds too, although he goes bak to sleep really easily. I wonder if the night feeds are because he's so distracted in the day he doesn't feed enough - does this seem likely?

I'm trying to up his solids a bit as he enjoys his food - it's just his milk feeds that he loses interest in.

Having said that, he's asleep in his cot right now. I should do something useful, but the dogs have cuddled up on my feet and I don't have the heart to move them!

Angielka Wed 07-Aug-13 18:38:00

Oh sorry to hear about all the awful sleep. It's so difficult!!

I was all hopeful last night because Molly went down at 7 and I didn't hear anything until 10.30pm. Then it was a complete nightmare until 1.30am and the next longest part of sleep was 2.30-5am. Why can't they just switch off and recharge their batteries and leave us in peace?!! confused

Anyway, sending you all lots of good luck vibes for tonight. In the blink of an eye they'll all be five, heading off to school and sleeping through the night. It just all feels so permanent when you're going through a shitty patch. Keep smiling ladies flowers.

Hi all wow its busy on here today!

Sorry about all the shit sleep i think everyone needs brew brew brew

Re wonder weeks Ivy is 31.1 but 27.1 from due date so does that mean she is in a wonder week? That would explain her current whingyness smile

angie you're right it goes so fast! Was at a 5th birthday today and i remember when most of the dcs there were little babies, its really flown!

lettherebe Ivy is like this, totally distracted so feeds are all over the place. Shes doing really well with solids but seems to be catching uo with milk feeds at night.

tugs we had shock at rhyme time yesterday when a mum with a 9mo asked how old Ivy is and i told her 7mo. Ivy is bigger and almost getting going whikst hers was crawling so she thought they were the same age!

She keeps hurling herself at things she wants and virtually assaulted me for my chicken nuggets earlier grin

Hormonalhell Wed 07-Aug-13 21:20:51

Birdies I'm a SAHM and this is my routine

6.00-7 Charlie wakes n has 7oz milk
Hour n half later goes back to bed n usually wakes about 9-10.
When he wakes he has 1 weetabix n 5 ozmilk (some in his weetabix)
Play for a bit etc n then he naps 11.30 to 12.00 or around that.
Lunch half jar din half pud n baby juice.
3.00 has 6oz
Naps about 4.30ish for half hour
Dinner 5.00 other half of jars
Bath 6.30
7oz bottle n bed about 7.30
Phew grin

Birdies Wed 07-Aug-13 21:26:18

apples no you've got one coming up haha! Sorry, not funny really. Its only the fussy period next at 28.5 weeks. Maybe due date was out a bit? Or wonder weeks a load of twaddle?

Hi cupcakes! Have you tried feeding him in a quiet dark room in the day? I find X is really distracted if there is anything else going on in the room and doesn't feed as much. Although if he is getting more solids then could be hunger in the night? If he takes a cup or a bottle you can try water in the night for one of the feeds if you haven't already.

I know this isn't remotely exciting for anyone else but I felt a peg today - her first little peg! I could eat it grin Although I'm worried about getting bitten when feeding now - is that likely?

Pascha Wed 07-Aug-13 21:31:24

Dan ate 6 filled ravioli and an entire banana for tea, then complained as there was no more shock Gannet. DS1 at this age was very prissy and would eat an inch of banana and a grape.

Hello to Cupcakes, Cejay and everyone else who's popped for an update. Nice to see you all again. I think 6ish months is a great time for a catch up.

Just realised I have stopped counting in weeks. He's 7 months yesterday, whatever that is.

Birdies Wed 07-Aug-13 21:44:53

Thanks hormonal smile You are very organised!

Birdies Wed 07-Aug-13 21:47:05

pascha was that bought ravioli and if so which one? Please don't tell me you made it!!

Lostbobbles Wed 07-Aug-13 21:47:09

Hello All

Just catching up with all the updates

Hormonal good to hear from you, we were EDD buddies smile

Been busy trying to get DD1 party organised, but seem to be faffing and achieving nothing. To top it off bloody cake maker has let me down as well so trying to find another, which is not easy at late notice, some are booked until the end of the year shock think I need to learn to bake . I did fit in lovely manicure and pedicure today though so all is not lost wink

As for DD2 well little monkey is already crawling all over and now pulling herself up to standing using the sofa shock. Oh and still wakes numerous times throughout the night angry

birdies nooo don't say that! She is hard work at the mo. Clingy, up crying early in the morning and just generally fussy! Actually thinking about it she was fine when dp took older dcs out last week so maybe its an attention issue? Due date was prob spot on as i know when i conceived...oh well.. <sigh>

pascha i think thats 30 weeks. I only know as my feeding app counts the weeks for me!

Lostbobbles Wed 07-Aug-13 21:50:18

Oh and I got a vitamix blender grin anyone for a smoothie,soup,cocktail.....

octanegirl Wed 07-Aug-13 21:57:40

For what it's worth mine went through a terrible sleep period that lasted till he was about 5.5 months. He'd wake several times per night etc etc. I persevered with the routine no matter what and now he goes to sleep on the dot of 7, I wake him for a dream feed at 1030 and he then sleeps till about 7.30 am.
You just have to stick with the routine, day in, day out, even if it takes weeks or months (the latter in my case). Don't get disheartened, it works in the end!
I agree re the day time napping. Mine naps for 45 mins in the morning, between 45mins-1.5hrs at lunchtime and usually another 30 mins at about 5. Definitely helps as then he doesn't get too crotchety. I do always feed him at the same time each day too (the milk feeds) and fit in the solids as and when.

Hello everyone!

C hasn't napped today and is bring a wee shit. Happy days.

octanegirl Wed 07-Aug-13 22:02:03

ps I forgot to say he's just discovered that he can MOVE! He rolls over and over like a seal and also rotates in circles like a lazy susan. He's often quite far from where I put him down. It's very funny. He's just starting to lift his bum off the floor so I wonder what will happen next...
On the food front he's starting to swallow instead of spit. I know this because of the contents of the nappies. It is wrong to be totally fascinated by infant poo?

Pascha Wed 07-Aug-13 22:02:45

Spinach and ricotta, Birdies. and if by homemade you mean taken out of the packet and dunked in boiling water for 2 minutes then yeah, made with my own fair hands wink. I stirred a bit of olive oil through to stop them sticking and sliced them in half.

30 weeks it is, Apple, thank you. I'll have a cocktail please Lost grin

Hormonalhell Wed 07-Aug-13 22:05:17

Birdies thanks, certainly doesn't seem that way when I'm doing it grin

Lost bobbles yes we were, hi there!! Wasn't Lois borna couple of days before Charlie? Around 10th?? Can't believe she is crawling. Charlie just not into crawling but walks around if you hold him up and zooms around the kitchen in his baby walker!!grin

Lostbobbles Wed 07-Aug-13 22:11:10

Hormonal, yes Lois is the 11th now can Charlie please send her some of his genius sleeping skills

Hormonalhell Wed 07-Aug-13 22:58:05

Ha yes lost but the difference is he's male n I would say they are the lazier of the sexes grin

octane 1 word wheetabix


Birdies yes we do try that, but there's always something to distract him. Like the label on the towel I keep close by in case he unlatches. Or my nose. Or his own feet.

Can you get baby blinkers?

We did have a reasonable night last night. He was a bit unsettled from 6.30 -7.30, then slept until 10.30. Couldn't get him back in his cot after that so brought him into bed with me and he slept until 3.30! Quick feed and he went back 'til 5.30.

Hoping to get him to go back to sleep again now, he's looking sleepy. <crosses fingers>

glorious Thu 08-Aug-13 06:43:09

Welcome back cupcakes and grin at baby blinkers. I'd buy some too, shall we go into business? I'd also like to get a scratching post for nails like cats use, or possibly something similar that sticks on your chest so they wear their nails down instead of gouging your skin while feeding.

Thanks angielka and * octane *. I went to bed at 8 last night and DH dealt with the 4 wakings between then and 1030 so I got some extra sleep. And this morning she's only really woken at 6 smile

pascha I'm impressed at the ravioli.

Bunny222 Thu 08-Aug-13 07:46:30

Am on strike! :-( we had a frustrating game of musical beds which began at midnight and ended at 4am in our bed with a bottle. No help from DH of course.

What is going on??!! :-( dont know how to fix this, we are definately going backwards.
Forgot how pants no sleep is. Sorry for rant. Feeling for the other non sleepers!

Angielka Thu 08-Aug-13 08:15:18

Argh. No sleep between 1.30 and 3 because DD1 woke with a nightmare and then Molly woke wanting a feed and then woke every time I tried to out her back in her cot. Nightmare. zzzzzzzzzz

Birdies Thu 08-Aug-13 08:39:59

Serves me right for laughing apples, up every couple of hours last night. What is going on with these babies?! Is it a full moon?!

pascha, do you bother with low salt ravioli or just let him try anything?

I can feel the peg when she's feeding sad

lollipoppi Thu 08-Aug-13 08:55:35

Hi all!
We are in teething HELL, DD has packed bags and is currently living in a small town called Grumpsville.
Apple how has Ivy coped so well with all her teeth coming through? she must nearly have a full set now smile

What's going on with all the non sleeping babies? DD was up between 2am - 4am then woke for the day at 6

CreepyCrawly Thu 08-Aug-13 08:56:00

Not a great night here either. Up 3 (4 because I gave in and fed her) times. She's not hungry, but it's the only way she'll settle. I woke DH up so he could try settling her seeing as he has no milk, "what do you want me to do?" Ffs I just got up myself.

No pegs or anything here yet! Not even any signs any more, apart from perhaps the night wakings.

LOVE the idea of baby blinkers! I'm also going to put socks on the dog. I don't get scratched much, I get slapped though. I made the mistake of laughing when she slapped my boob once, so obviously I want it continuously slapped.

Fingers crossed for good days all round!

lollipoppi Thu 08-Aug-13 08:58:11

Oops pressed send too soon!

Bunty, no naps ALL day? wine For you!

v impressed with the ravioli!

Meringue33 Thu 08-Aug-13 09:01:05

Lol at all the non sleeping babies, because if I didn't laugh I'd cry!

He is mental hmm. I actually got not a bad sleep last night as just took him in with us about half one when he failed to settle. Slept quite well apart from waking a few times to tell DP to roll over and face baby as I was scared he had his back to him. And baby woke once but DP cuddled him back to sleep. Up at five to six tho!

Meringue33 Thu 08-Aug-13 09:02:31

Just read that back and can't believe that's what passes for a good night these days! Lol smile

Loveitall Thu 08-Aug-13 09:17:51

morning all, just catching up on all the threads from yesterday.
Big hugs for all of you with non sleepers! Touch wood ds is a good sleeper. Tho I am waiting for a blip in normal proceedings!
He's finished off the baby cereal I bought him when first started weaning so am going to give weetabix a go tomorrow.
Today am going round to visit a friend in the morn who has a ds around the same age is always fun to see the two interact with each other. Then this afternoon carrying on decorating...heading over to my mums tonight I think if we get painting so he not affected by the paint fumes.

Have a good day one and all x

woody2313 Thu 08-Aug-13 10:07:22

Hi all! Haven't posted for ages; hope you are well and enjoying your little ones. I feel incredibly lucky to have produced the most gorgeous, chilled out, happy baby ... Just a shame he has decided nighttime sleep is for wimps! 2 weeks of seriously interrupted sleep after I thought we'd cracked it when he slept for 11.5 hours twice! Thanks Glorious for suggesting I come back on here for company smile

glorious Thu 08-Aug-13 11:10:37

Welcome back woody :-)

Sorry my baby has broken everyone else's sad

glorious don't worry - I think mine was faulty from the start!

DS has just fallen asleep on DH. DH tried to transfer him to his cot but he was having none of it, so now DH is stuck grin.

I'm eating my dinner in peace and playing on MN.

Those of you with none-sleepers - have you seen this babyandbump.momtastic.com/general-chatter/243964-sleeping-through-night-babys-point-view.html? It's quite old I think but I read it now and then. Makes me chuckle and keeps me sane (ish).

Bunny222 Thu 08-Aug-13 12:14:09

Cupcakes that is brilliant. Just got a giggle out of me despite my sulky no-sleep mood! ;-)

At least we're all in the same rocky boat together...

Lostbobbles Thu 08-Aug-13 14:35:56

Can't believe she's nearly 7 months and hasn't slept through once yet.... If she wasn't so cute I'd send her back wink

Lostbobbles Thu 08-Aug-13 14:37:00

Triple espresso's all round brewbrewbrew

lollipoppi Thu 08-Aug-13 15:29:11

Love it cupcakes!!!

Well DD is making up for the lost sleep last night she has been asleep for 3 hours!!!! shock
She has never napped for more than 40 mins before!

Tugstonia Thu 08-Aug-13 16:23:22

Wow there must be something going on with all these non-sleeping babies! Mine was up 3 times last night, including 2-4am again but this time I refused to feed her. Going to try to resist again tonight until she stops. I think it must be habit because the longest she'll sleep in a row at night is 3 hours. She's had 15 mins of naps so far today. WTF is going on??

creepy my husband is the same "she won't settle for me" because you don't fucking try! He assumes feeding her is the cure for all as opposed to a lot of rocking patting and ssshing.

lolli thanks! Today is also going fairly shit. She was exceptionally unsettled from 8 when she finally went down, until 10:30, had a feed, had a good sleep until 12:30 and then was up and shouting for three hours.

Back to sleep at 3:30, up at 4, back to sleep at 4:30, up at 5, into my bed, slept until 'd'h asked if I was taking ds to nursery at 8:15 as he was running late. He got told to fuck off, the baby was finally sleeping, she woke up, ds and dh had a shouting match culminating in tears all round, and to this minute she's slept for about 90 minutes because arseholes keep knocking the door and waking her up.

I'm getting signs printed which will promise dire happenings if people rattle my door when this baby is sleeping.

I am not in a good mood.

Loveitall Thu 08-Aug-13 17:29:00

flowers for bounty .. Sounds like you've had a real tough day today.
Ds is increasingly grizzly today...had a mammoth 3 hr nap this afternoon...never usually does more than 90mins.
But had a lovely time at my friends with ds playing with her trio smile

Loveitall Thu 08-Aug-13 17:56:18


Bunty hope you have a better night tonight. Your DH sounds a bit like mine. He didn't drag himself out of bed until 8.30 this morning, even though he knew we had to leave the house at 9.30 for DS' swimming lesson. He then decided he needed a cooked breakfast. Meanwhile the dogs were waiting for their walk and I was running around like a mad thing trying to get everything ready. I think he realized he'd annoyed me though, as I later found him doing laundry. Don't know where he learned to do that.

Rubbish napping again today so don't have high hopes for tonight...

glorious Thu 08-Aug-13 19:25:56

Oh bunty brew

I love that cupcakes .

Terrible mother of the year award goes to me. We've been travelling today and I was getting her out of the sling for a kick. When I lift her out I often fly her above my head for fun. I flew her smack into the luggage rack sad There was a huge thwack and she looked at me with her big round eyes as if to say 'mummy what has happened to me' then the tears started pouring down her face. Everyone stared and some horrible old woman tutted at me. It was all I could do to hold it together. She calmed down with a feed and is absolutely fine (I rang a relative who's a paediatrician just in case but no bump, no symptoms, just her normal self).

I have never felt so guilty and sad in my life sad . I know these things happen but I'm finding it hard to forgive myself.

lollipoppi Thu 08-Aug-13 19:48:21

Glorious i challenge you on that award by locking both kids in the car after picking up ds1 from nursery! They were locked in screaming for 25mins until DP turned up with the spare key - just in time for all the parents to come and collect their kids and watch hmm

do not worry she will be fine, and the old woman that tutted is a cow bag !

Oh glorious I know what you mean. I have trapped my little boys leg in his high chair, caught his skin in a buckle and caught his finger when cutting his nails. It breaks my heart to hear him cry anyway, but when it's my fault it's even worse.

I try to remind myself that he won't remember it, it was an accident. And I highly doubt that old woman is perfect. Be kind to yourself.

Pascha Thu 08-Aug-13 20:17:18

I chopped the tip of Dan's thumb when I was clipping his nails. It bled for about an hour. I had to sit down, felt really rather sick.

pascha i have done that to 3 babies shock

<slow learner>

Picking ds1 up from nursery once i put ds2 in his car seat next to the car while i sorted ds1 out. As i was driving away i wondered why someone had left a carseat just like ours in the carpark...

Ivy has spent the day trying to get moving! She pushes up on her knees then moves forward on her bottom smile

bunty that sounds tough. I hope you get a better night tonight. Those signs sound good. I had to tell one of ds2 friends to.shush when she was outside our house shouting his name. I had just got Ivy down in the travel cot in the boys room which she was standing under and the window was open. I shot out the front door like a madwoman! smile

Lora1982 Thu 08-Aug-13 22:51:29

Dp gets the look if he dares to eat his food like a chomping loud pig on the other side of the room when dexters sleeping. He did take him off my hands so I could have an hours sleep earlier, good boy.

The nerve of your dh bunty!! And cupcakes I hope your washing came out better than the whites dp decided to wash a cheap purple sheet with...

Really am concerned about how much he doesnt seem to be drinking. I offer it all the time but hes not interested. He's more than interested in my tea and juice though

Hormonalhell Thu 08-Aug-13 22:57:18

I trapped DS1 finger in car door when he was 2....his nail went black and dropped off! Still feel guilty to this day and he 11 now.

He doesn't remember it thank goodness smile

EagleRay Thu 08-Aug-13 23:49:43

Pascha I did exactly the same thing to DD a couple of months ago. I screamed so much DP thought I'd found her dead. I was in such a state and couldn't believe I'd done it. Took her to a walk-in centre as worried about how to dress the cut but it had stopped bleeding and they said it would heal quickly as it was.

My mum accidentally ironed my hand as a toddler - I keep reminding myself that everyone has accidents!

woody2313 Fri 09-Aug-13 06:13:03

Well I spoke to the health visitor yesterday morning about this non-sleeping malarkey and she suggested two things:
1. Making sure that DS always goes down awake; even if he falls asleep during his last feed, I'm to wake him up so that he doesn't think that he needs the breast/ the feed to get back to sleep in the night. DS is usually awake when I put him down but sometimes when he does fall asleep I feel relieved that I can just transfer him to the cot without any fuss. Still, when he did this last night, I woke him by winding him... He cried for about 3 minutes (with me in the room) then fell straight to sleep.
2. Making sure DS is taking on enough food in the day. As he has only just turned 6 months old I have just being giving him the odd bit of finger food here and there so yesterday I made sure that he had something between each milk feed. She also suggested giving him more protein so amongst his snacks yesterday he had a breadcrumb free fish finger which he really enjoyed!

Anyway, this advice is really nothing knew but thought it was worth sharing...
DS went to sleep at 6.20 last night and is still asleep now smile

Time for me to try and catch a few more zzzzs before he wakes up!

woody2313 Fri 09-Aug-13 06:14:33

Nothing new, oops!

Angielka Fri 09-Aug-13 08:41:24

Oh your stories are cheering me up - flowers we are all only human and make mistakes. Be kind to yourselves.

Up at 1, 3, 5, 6 and finally 7 today. She's poorly, but still! Got a load of sleep books from the NCT library but think the only way is to get DH to settle her when I know she's just had a feed. It's the easy way to get them back to sleep isn't it? she's taking quite a lot each time, but then maybe she's not getting enough during the day. Your HV seems to talk some sense woody.

BLW stuff is going better and better - a whole banana at breakfast just disappeared. I'm just eternally optimistic naive and think that once the food has settled and milk reduces a bit more, Molly will go back to sleeping through like when she was 3 months old. She's totally playing me

Meringue33 Fri 09-Aug-13 08:52:24

Up at 1am, wide awake after feed. Took him into our bed and he slept to 6.30am. Yay! Luckily we have a superking bed so plenty of room.

We had a BLW win yesterday too - roasted sticks of butternut squash with the skin still on. Only problem was resisting eating them all myself!

Birdies Fri 09-Aug-13 09:02:44

Poor glorious it's horrible when you accidentally hurt them. But it is accidental! You should only not forgive yourself if it was deliberate!!

pascha hope you have recovered from chopping his thumb to bits!

hormonal that sound awful!

eagle how does someone iron a hand haha?!

lora men do eat loudly don't they?!

bunty I know what you mean about people knocking the door. I hate the persistent door bell ringers too - surely if I don't answer then the best thing isnt to ring the bell AGAIN and AGAIN.

woody my hv said the same about the putting them down asleep but I need to be braver to try it as I know it'll throw her whole routine out.

angiel hope Molly feels bette soon.

Hormonalhell Fri 09-Aug-13 09:35:31

I gave Charlie a full weetabix and 5oz milk n he slept for 11 hours!! He just demolished two rusks n 5oz now tho grin

Pascha Fri 09-Aug-13 09:43:48

There's something to be said for living in a rural backwater after all - no random door-knockers.

Daniel's thumb is fine, a bit tender I should think. Is there anyone on here who hasn't accidentally injured their baby in some way?

Hope all bad sleepers improve soon.

angeil sad

pascha I also live in the sticks and I still get knockers. Yesterday was delivery I wasn't expecting and my idiot landlord, who given he has a new month old grandchild living next door to us, should know better. But he's a twat who accused me when ds was small of flushing nappies (fairly sure that's physically impossible)

My lovely friend came for dinner last night whilst dh was out, and saw c at her best - refusing sleep and smiling whilst she spewed everywhere. Her dd, born the same day as ds, has gerd, and apparently Cameron sicks up as much as she ever did, so she's fairly confident we have reflux going on, though it doesn't bother her.

However! We then got to wondering if that's why she's so unsettled at night. So, took her advice and put her to sleep on tummy. Had the best night in ages. Going to get some baby gaviscon and continue practising my tummy sleep technique.

I really hope this is a turning point.

Sympathy to all the non-sleeper sufferers!

happyhow Fri 09-Aug-13 10:15:17

We were just up once last night which was fine. I can just about cope with that.

Have refused to feed him this morning though - don't think he's happy with me... He took 50mls of formula though and had half a banana mixed with an apple/pear/apricot purée and some formula and baby cereal.

Have put him down for his nap but he's resisting...

I cut Bailey's toe with nail clippers when he was little and then I let him play with the toaster the other week which resulted in his cut fingers.

HV cancelled our 6 month review this morning which I'm pissed off about as wanted to ask her about this formula malarkey.

Meringue33 Fri 09-Aug-13 12:55:09

I did the same thing as you Glorious this morning, picked up baby from bed and whooshed him overhead, straight into headboard blush. Luckily it is mdf not solid oak as it was sold to us.

Bunty this LO has slept loads better since he started rolling onto his front. I put him down on his side now since he goes nuts if I put him on his back.

Lora1982 Fri 09-Aug-13 16:07:49

Last night I went to sort him out in the dark cos he was crying cos he'd flipped round... I didnt realise he was still on his belly till I went to put a dummy in to stop him crying and I was thinking 'wheres his face gone?!' Also trapped his foot in the baby wipe box at 6wks so not accident free over this way

On the door knockers he had his first lesson in how to politely get rid of jehovah witnesses this morning.

lollipoppi Fri 09-Aug-13 16:11:19

Bunty my DD has reflux and has slept on her tummy since she was about 8 weeks whilst I watched her like a hawk

Were off to Torquay tonight for my cousins wedding, plan is to let them sleep on route which is around 4 hours then peacefully transfer them both from car to hotel beds without waking them grin like that's going to go to plan !!

Lora1982 Fri 09-Aug-13 16:57:31

Also I dont know if it'll help with the drinking formula business but ive managed to get him using a straw so you could see how he goes with that

glorious Fri 09-Aug-13 16:58:27

Thanks everyone, you're making me feel a bit better smile She's totally fine today. We've been Gromit hunting in Bristol which is a fun way to get her to nap!

Sorry for all the awful nights.

happyhow Fri 09-Aug-13 17:06:08

I'll buy some straws tomo. Thanks!

Lora1982 Fri 09-Aug-13 18:04:32

I put some in and held the end a few times then he figured to suck it. Good luck

glorious you must be near me, we aren't far from Bristol.

Slightly better night last night, DS only woke 3 times between 6.30pm and 7am. Feeling rubbish though, seem to have some sort of fluey bug. Honestly, I think I've had more coughs / colds etc since DS was born than I've had in the rest of my life!

glorious Fri 09-Aug-13 19:59:14

cupcakes I live in London but grew up in Bristol so visiting my family and friends smile Sorry about the lurgy brew I'd recommend the Gromits when you're better.

Loveitall Fri 09-Aug-13 21:00:00

When ds was about 8 weeks I was carrying him in his carseat and tripped up, his seat went flying I went flying, I badly sprained my ankle, he was fine! Felt so so guilty (until the paramedic gave me gas and air! Then I zoned out!) on a side note, a newborn and crutches is quite hard to manage!!! smile

glorious Fri 09-Aug-13 21:49:15

Oh love poor you, how horrible. The car seat worked then! Newborn and crutches not so much.

Loveitall Fri 09-Aug-13 22:01:03

Car seat worked a treat :D.

Loveitall Fri 09-Aug-13 22:02:00

These babies are tough cookies!

Lostbobbles Fri 09-Aug-13 22:42:20

DD2 had an accident today, pulled herself up using the sofa then fell and somehow managed to flip round and band her head on a toy. Now sporting a lovely bruise on her forehead hmm but luckily no serious damage done and a few licks of DD1's ice cream soon cheered her up.

Went for a lovely meal with a friend this eve, had both DC's as hubby out but incredibly they were as good as gold grin

Angie wish Molly well

Happy - random but was speaking to another mum at baby group who happened to mention that she had just changed to formula. She ended up having to go cold turkey in the end and endured a 16hour stand off before her DS gave in.

Lora1982 Fri 09-Aug-13 23:21:52

Loveit I would have refused to leave the house after that.... or was it planned so you could get more gas and air grin

We have clapping <proud face> only took a week of me doing it for him

Sods only just gone sleep though. Off to sunny cleethorpes for the night sunday to listen to mum n dad snoring like cavemen in the caravan.

Meringue33 Sat 10-Aug-13 00:25:24

Yay well done Dexter :D

Loveitall Sat 10-Aug-13 06:44:08

Hehe, I refuse to carry the car seat now unless necessary that's for sure lol! grin

Loveitall Sat 10-Aug-13 06:44:40

Have a gd night in sunny clergy lora

Loveitall Sat 10-Aug-13 06:45:09

Obviously that should say cleggy!

salt1 Sat 10-Aug-13 07:22:27

Shitty Shitty night worse ever wtf . Sleeping in bloody sleeping in bloody swing now. Gonna try a more protein rich tea today x

Angielka Sat 10-Aug-13 08:11:17

lost Molly has a couple of little scratches where she was sitting yesterday and tried to crawl but landed sprawled on her tummy. DD1's toy train was under her face hmm

salt we tried a new tactic last night. I waited for her to wake after we went to bed and fed her (1am) then sent DH in to settle her with no milk every time she woke before 4am. I fed her again at 4 and then she slept until 7am. Hoping it improves bit by bit and the feeds gradually cut out. She's got to the point now that it feels like I'm rewarding her for waking by feeding her when it's clear she can't be hungry enough to eat every two hours overnight. She settled really quickly for DH so it made me feel it was clear it was more habit than hunger. Sorry your night was so bad. I feel better this morning and DH seems to have survived too smile.

angielka how did you convince your DH to do that? I still struggle to get mine even to change a nappy!

Rubbish night here, too. DS woke at 2.30 and refused to go back to sleep until 4...

Lora1982 Sat 10-Aug-13 11:39:54

Cupcakes if dp is here its his JOB to do nappies and emergency bottle. Else he gets the moody me. Ive given up trying to get him to do night shift.

Lostbobbles Sat 10-Aug-13 15:42:50

Lora, go Dexter on the clapping, v impressed grin

I left DH with both DD's this morn, and DD2 rewarded him with the stinkiest poo, even DD1 went out the room. good girl hahaha

Pascha Sat 10-Aug-13 16:46:53

Clapping! Brilliant! Dan is nowhere near that. His special skill is in eating. Half a mango today at lunch. Faster than I ate the other half shock

He was singing at 1.10am, then again at 3am hmm We've had sleeping through cracked for the last week, I can only think its teeth again.

Lora DH is immune to moody me. I think it's because he has 4 sisters. He just ignores me.

Yet another rubbish day. Took DS out for the afternoon in the hope he'd sleep. He screamed all round the garden centre. He dozed off in the car on the way to the supermarket, but as I lifted his car seat out a dog went ballistic at us and DS woke up. He screamed all around the supermarket. He screamed most of the way home, then nodded off when we were only about 3 minutes from the house, so I carried on driving for a bit. Got home and our dogs barked and woke him again. DH started having a go at me so I just got back in the car and drove off. Ended up at my dad's house, but he wasn't home so just sat on the driveway for an hour.

Am hiding upstairs now. Would kill for some sleep.

Loveitall Sat 10-Aug-13 19:03:35

Well, last night I had a fidgety ds! But then I had a peek this morning and lo and behold...his first tooth is peeping through! Yay for his first tooth...boo for the teething! He has been mildly clinger and grumblier today so will see how he goes tonight! Am hoping for sleep as I didn't get into a proper sleep til 3 am then was up at 6.15 with him...plus a full day of decorating means one knackered mummy!

Angielka Sat 10-Aug-13 20:28:11

cupcakes you're right, DH is a good man. I don't think I'd have survived this far with both DDs if it hadn't been for him.

lora that's brill with the clapping! Will start intense training tomorrow

Could have sworn I heard Molly say 'dada' yesterday when she woke up, but haven't heard anything similar since. Going mad

Wishing you all peaceful sleepy nights...

newbie6 Sat 10-Aug-13 20:37:50

Hi all,

Hope those struggling with sleep get better nights soon! I'm a bit worried as my LO is 7mths tomorrow and not really on proper solids, everything needs to be puréed within an inch of its life otherwise he gags? He still can't sit up on his own but is definitely getting there but just wondering if I should be doing/trying something different?


Lora1982 Sat 10-Aug-13 21:06:46

Newbie have you tried one of those nibbler net things? If you put a big chunk of fruit in it or banana bitch to clean but easiest for this hurdle then he'll realise he's to chew big things. Or give him half a rusk and watch like a hawk... Dexter wasn't sitting unpropped when I started giving him stuff and to be fair he rarely gets lumpy stuff yet perhaps a few times a week and when I remember I'll give him something like cooked carrot sticks or a biscuit thingy.

Ugh cupcakes dont envy your day. A trick for the dogs though, when you get back and hes a kip send your 'd'p in first to shut the dog out the back, or text him, then you have a excited dog free entrance and the child stays sleepies had to learn this the hard way myself pissin yorkie

newbie6 Sat 10-Aug-13 21:19:25

Thanks Lora, have one so will try! X

newbie i would just keep offering but give it time! 7 mo is still so little maybe he just isn't ready yet. Ivy still gags with more 'solid' food (like omelette). Are you giving any finger foods? If you steam things like pieces of carrots or apples or pears etc so they are so soft they are falling apart that might be a way of introducing more texture. I wouldn't worry, one day it wilk all just 'click'

angie i coukd swear Ivy says mama when crying probably just a noise that sounds like it though!

lora wow on the clapping!

loveit yay on the tooth.

Whoever asked how Ivy has coped with all hers coning through, she has found it hard. She has a bunny snuggly that she chews all the time and when teeth are moving she stuffs it into her mouth and almost growls! On the bright side shes got 6 now and 2 more on the move so it should all be over by xmss smile <optimist>

Sorry for all the bad sleepers.

Seem to be spending all my time making food, feeding, clearing up etc. No time for anything else and i'm bloody nackered!

Meringue33 Sat 10-Aug-13 21:33:25

At mum & dads. Drove up on my own with LO for the first time. It's a five hour drive normally. Took 9 hours what with traffic and baby stops. Knackered!

Pascha Sat 10-Aug-13 21:50:52

Been there Meringue. When DS1 was 6m we did Kent to Cumbria in what was supposed to be 6 hours with stops, it ended up being 9 hours with many many stops and screaming stroppy baby.

Didn't help that I was very vague on where the Lakes actually were, thought they were around Yorkshire way blush

At least you're there now, hope you get an ok nights sleep.

Meringue33 Sun 11-Aug-13 07:29:44

Thanks Pascha! Definitely taking train next time!

Apples I'm with you on the never ending clean ups. Did occur to me if we went out for all our meals it would be a lot less work for me... That would burn through my maternity pay pretty quick!

salt1 Sun 11-Aug-13 07:40:03

Better but not brilliant nights sleep following a Philadelphia sandwich for tea. Will try it again tonight as she loved it. Am a bit concerned she does not like fruit only v ripe banana, much prefers savoury green beans are her favourite. Hope u are all well x

Loveitall Sun 11-Aug-13 07:48:01

Better night here thankfully, still fidgety, but without the grumbling...hurrah!
He woke up at 6 this morning so brought him onto our bed, whereby he has fallen asleep again...would be good but I want to get up an moving and I can't!

Birdies Sun 11-Aug-13 18:59:06

How can a baby sleep 10 hours one night, then be up every 2 the next?! Should I go for the calpol? She has one peg poking through but wonder if that's being a bad mother in hopes of getting more sleep?!

Hope everyone's had a nice day. lora that's great re the clapping. Think I'm going to have to start teaching her!

Been trying to get DS to sleep for an hour. He's obviously exhausted but every time I get him to doze off he wakes the second I try to put him in his cot. Am I missing something here? Should it really be this hard to get my child to sleep?

Pascha Sun 11-Aug-13 19:59:33

Dan has two fangs coming through together <sob> Its not fair. The whinge has been non-stop today. He is maxed out on every medication possible. At least he's sleeping right now.

Cejay8 Sun 11-Aug-13 20:11:43

Cupcakes, if S is overtired I feed her to sleep wink she's normally so so tired by about 6pm that the final feed is often almost a dream feed. Both mine were asleep by 6.30 tonight winelets hope it stays that way. Thankfully the most she ever wakes is once and she goes straight back to sleep after some milk grin she's always been good though, sorry I don't have any tips for those having bad nights.... Once they start moving hopefully they'll be too tired to fight the sleep.

S has eaten a whole Hipp jar of chicken & squash for tea. I did cook up and freeze some sweet pots, carrots & broccoli so she's eating a mixture of home made, finger food and jars/pouches. I think she sleeps through more reliably after some protein for tea, but it may just be coincidence.

So far she's shown no interest in rolling but getting better at sitting, though still using bumbo. She likes to sit and watch and not keen on her front so I'm not surprised she isn't trying to roll really....

Anyone else found unworn, outgrown clothes in the babies wardrobes?! She's growing too fast! Hope everyone's had lovely weekends

CreepyCrawly Sun 11-Aug-13 20:18:48

Nancy has eaten like a horse today! From not showing any interest in food, she had porridge for breakfast, some Ella's kitchen cheese & tomato puffs for lunch and a cream cheese sandwich for dinner. And a yogurt for puds.

I've given her a dummy tonight for the first time. I'm not sure if its a good idea but she's gone to sleep without me feeding her to sleep so fingers crossed.

birdies it's so frustrating isn't it?! It's like they're teasing us. I gave some calpol a few nights ago and it made no difference.

Yes loads cejay! I try and put her in anything I find (that fits!) and take a pic!

cejay Ivy isn't keen on her front anymore either so i regularly have to get up in the night to rescue her! Why does she roll onto her front if she doesn't like it?!?

No unworn clothes here. If anything she doesn't have enough which would be fine if i could keep on top of my mountain of washing hmm

pascha poor Dan ( and you) hope they're through soon.

birdies you have my sympathy! I've been wondering the same

Hope everyone had a good day grin

Feeding hasn't worked. He's still screaming. I would very much like to scream too but have lost my voice.

Wuxiapian Mon 12-Aug-13 07:33:23

Joining the sleepless ranks.

Bubs hasn't slept through for about 4 weeks - last night being the worst - nonstop grizzling from 2am onwards.

I'm 11 weeks pregnant and just wanna cry sad

He's having just under half a weetabix in the mornings, a few tsp of fruit in the afternoons and a few tsp of dinner - ontop of five 7.5oz bottles. He has 2 bottom teeth and I can only put these terrible nights down to teething.

Sympathies to all suffering.

Tugstonia Mon 12-Aug-13 09:05:49

Oh Wux that sounds v tough... pregnancy's hard enough without sleep deprivation. Lots of brew and flowers to you and to all the other non sleepers.

We decided on Friday night to try controlled crying. I never thought I would, I always found the idea horrible and really struggle to deal with dd crying at the best of times, but DP and I really were at the end of our tether. The sleep deprivation is affecting our relationship and DP's ability to do his job. The first night dd wailed for about an hour but then slept for 7.5 hours straight which she's NEVER done before. Second night she was asleep after about 10 mins, although woke up again at about 11.30pm, I fed her and she was straight back to sleep, awake again at 7am. Then last night she was asleep after about a minute (I think largely because she didn't nap very well during the day). Then woke up at 10.45pm, I fed her, straight back to sleep, up again 2am and wailed til 3.30am, then asleep. It's been v v hard, DP and I were both in tears ourselves on the first night and had to stop each other going in and picking her up. BUT I think she is definitely improving and learning how to go to sleep on her own, and I'm glad we've done it. Just have to see it through now... Daytime naps have been hard because she used to only nap on the move in her buggy or with me lying next to her pinning her down, but just now I put her down and she was asleep within 5 mins, on her own and with no crying, just cooing.

I was worried the experience might make her lose some of her sparkle but she still seems to be the same happy, smiley little baby which is a relief smile I know CC is not very popular on MN so please don't flame me! I was desperate.

tugs we did exactkly the same with ds1. I think its only a problem if you keep doing it wheb its not working IYSWIM.

Ivy up crying and chewing her bunny most of night, bloody teeth!

glorious Mon 12-Aug-13 09:22:33

Oh wu you poor thing, I can't begin to imagine how tough that must be. Roll on the second trimester. Dp you have a scan soon?

Sympathy to cupcakes too.

We've had three nights in a row without the 530am waking for the day, it makes such a difference so fingers crossed...

happyhow Mon 12-Aug-13 09:34:31

Don't worry, tugs. I've done it too although it's all gone to pot the last few days...

We were away over the weekend. Had a surprise bday party for my mum on Sat which was really good. B performed really well although he didn't go to sleep til half 9 and then he kept being disturbed by the noise. Got him back to the hotel and fed him so he was in bed by 12am. Cue the twats in the rooms next to us coming back really loudly at 2am and carrying on with slamming doors, shouting, having arguments, screaming, slamming more doors... This went on til after 4am. Ended up with B in with us as it was the only way he'd settle. He did sleep all the way back up the road though so it meant we didn't have to stop.

Now he's got a cold which is making it difficult for him to breath and therefore feed. Was up most of the night with him as he couldn't settle whilst sleeping on his back so he was mostly on me or cuddled beside me on his side. Had 90 mins in my own bed and spent the rest of the time in his room on the spare bed which we've never gotten round to moving out

Currently got an electrician in doing some bits and bobs so can't even nap whilst B is asleep on me just now and can't put him up to his bed as the guy is working in his room and just outside it.

And I've run out of milk so can't have a cup of tea or my cereal. hmm

Loveitall Mon 12-Aug-13 10:13:16

S needed a feed t 11pm last night for the first time in a week, but then slept through...much more settled after that feed....will see what he is like tonight.
Sending matchsticks to all of you with non sleepers xxx

lollipoppi Mon 12-Aug-13 10:33:23

Hi all

Back from our weekend in Torquay, which was lovely, apart from the monster journey there, got stuck for 2 hours as the motorway was shut - meringue maybe we were in the same traffic jam smile ! 4 hour journey took 7 hours!
Oh and we have 2 teeth!!!!

Lora, yay in the clapping!

Wux I really feel for you, must be tough hmm

Tugs, it sound like its working and like apples said I think it's only a bad thing if its not working

Happy hope B is feeling better soon!

glorious Mon 12-Aug-13 14:04:10

Sorry tugs, missed your post. I don't think anyone can understand unless they've had a rubbish sleeper; sleep deprivation over a long period is just awful. I'm sure you'll have more energy in the day to play with her which has to be a positive. thanks

Sympathy to everyone, especially poor wux.

I started back working today, although only from home part time. When they asked me, I gaily agreed as she was having a long nap in the morning.

Not today! Was a bit of a 'mare. However, it's done for the day, I've spotted some issues and already suggested some badly needed improvements.

I can't remember if I said, but have been told dd had reflux, which would explain the constant (and I mean constant) vomiting. We have been trailing baby gaviscon which has drastically cut down the vomit, but now she's constipated. Sigh. The best night we had recently was the night we were told it was reflux, and we put her to sleep on her tummy, no gaviscon. She slept for 7 hours.

I think maybe we'll stop gaviscon and just put her on her tummy and see how that goes.

She's currently sprawled on my bed next to me, finally sleeping. Wee minx. I adore her, but bloody hell, she needs to learn to sleep.

31 weeks past on Saturday and still no tooth in sight - where are you, teeth????

Lostbobbles Mon 12-Aug-13 15:29:43

Tugs, we did hardcore cc with DD1 in the end. It was our last resort after trying all sorts of methods and within a few days 'bingo' and touch wood has slept like a dream for last 4.5yrs

DD2 is another kettle of fish I've gone soft but I try to not rush straight in and watch on monitor to see if she will settle.

Still party organising here can't wait until it's over. Also on constant mobile baby watch, she's into everything and has now discovered pulling things off of the tv unit shelves hmm

octanegirl Mon 12-Aug-13 19:28:26

Hi all! Big hugs to the sleep deprived sad

We have rollin' rollin' rollin' all over the place! He starts off on the mat but within minutes is under the table or completely the other side of the room. I need to start thinking about a playpen. Anyone got any suggestions?

Having said she doesn't like it on her front Ivy has spent all of today throwing herself onto her front as soon as i put her down confused For someone who can't crawl (yet) she is suddenly into bloody everything. Even stole half a cake i was eating right out of my hamds and ate it before i could stop her!

octane thats so cute, if a little annoying grin Don't know about playpens used to just chuck my dss into the travel cot but Ivy actually sleeps in that in the day.

wux i feel for you. This is all hard enough without being pregnant too! *

bunty 7 hours is good! At least you have some answers.

Loveitall Mon 12-Aug-13 20:53:47

octane my ds was like that when he started to roll....he was everywhere. We have a travel cot up in living room and I put him in there if I need to leave the room for a minute as he would be across by the tv or somewhere he shouldn't...the good news is that this was short lived as he then started to figure out how he could get on his hands and knees and rock and start to commando shuffle across the floor.
Still can't leave him as he is getting quite quick at this now..but the rolling has stopped, unless he loses his balance and then shocks himself by rolling really quickly!

Pascha Mon 12-Aug-13 21:07:33

We use a Babydan playpen but opened out across the room and fixed to each wall so it blocks in an area of the kitchen.

Lora1982 Mon 12-Aug-13 23:21:24

Ugh. This is all I can manage to say right now.

lollipoppi Tue 13-Aug-13 08:02:57

Oh no lora, hope the rest of your night wasn't as bad?

Octane yay on the rolling! I've not got a playpen but if I leave the room I put her in the jumperoo

Bunty that's great, DD is on the gaviscon it's made a huge difference

lollipoppi Tue 13-Aug-13 08:04:02

grin Apple!! Ivy has good taste!

CreepyCrawly Tue 13-Aug-13 09:33:37

Hope your night got better lora

Sympathy to those without sleep.

Nancy had stopped being fed in the night now, but rolls onto her tummy which then wakes her up. Was up every couple of hours to put her right and stop her banging her head. DH has a great help like he always fucking is and when I asked him to get up with her, he very kindly pulled the duvet back to make it easier for me to get up.

I'm feeling sorry for myself so fed up, I've cried for about a week.

Sorry to be me me me. Hoping everyone had a good night.

happyhow Tue 13-Aug-13 11:48:34

B's not moving around much yet so I just leave him on the floor or in his jumperoo.

Sorry for those with really bad nights. We had a marginally better one last night but I think I'm going to be a walking zombie next week when I'm back at work...

I'm going cold turkey on him today too...

Lora1982 Tue 13-Aug-13 12:45:29

Creepy im with you on the dp hating. He knew I had real issues trying to get dexter asleep in cleethorpes so when I finally get home he'd made a curry but I was doing the bedtime routine and he still wasnt asleep by ten when dp was eating seconds I was knackered starving and had a horrendous headache and he wondered why I gave him the finger when he said he was going bed while I was still in baby hell. Selfish dick.

When I did get to bed at half 12 he was snoring like a drunken pig.

To make matters worse tomorrow I need to be up dressed and out with dexter and the dog to the vets by 9 fucking am

Good luck with the cold turkey

Dad bought me a cute toy storage thing from lidl, the type with boxes on shelves, love it, it will sort out the pile of toys in the corner.

creepy DS did that for a while but it lasted less then a fortnight, he soon worked out how to roll himself back. Can you put her in a sleeping bag. Some of my friends have said they keep their babies still!

Small victory tonight - got DS to fall asleep in his cot, rather than me rocking him to sleep then transferring him. He had 3 good naps today and ate well so fingers crossed for a better night.

We're looking around for a new buggy for DS. His original travel system has done well but just can't take the abuse we give it (we have 2 dogs, lots of off road walking etc) leaning towards a Phil & Teds as have had a few friends say they're good. Quite pricey but it can convert to a double. Seems strange to be factoring that in as I've been dead set against having another, but DH pointed out that outgrown clothes are being carefully packaged and stored in the loft, so I can't be that against the idea! I have been outsmarted!

Meringue33 Tue 13-Aug-13 20:05:20

It was around Penrith Lolli :D

Sorry you're having a tough time of it Creepy

I'm knackered! Hate not having DP here to do the dream feed. And sharing a room with LO means I keep waking him up, fail!

Angielka Tue 13-Aug-13 20:37:33

Sorry about all the rubbish sleep still going on. I don't want to jinx things and it's only been a few nights, but maybe it'll give you all hope if I say that things seem to be steadily improving here. After getting DH to settle Molly when I knew she couldn't be really hungry, she woke and re-settled herself twice yesterday before 11pm while we stared at the baby monitor then had a feed at 11 and slept until 4, another feed and up at 6.30am. Nowhere near sleeping through, but compared to the two-hourly wakeups of last week it's progress. This shitty patch can't go on forever.

happyhow Tue 13-Aug-13 20:50:25

17 hours into boob strike and he still hasn't given in... He's only started getting arsey in the last 45 mins though. He's been quietly stubborn all day until now! Could be a long night. I've decided that if he hasn't given in by breakfast then I'll just need to accept he isn't going to give up the boob.

Lostbobbles Tue 13-Aug-13 21:14:10

Happy - looks like you defo have a boob man wink

Cejay8 Tue 13-Aug-13 21:28:36

Cupcakes, I love my phil n ted buggy. I've used it as a single for DS and then double with cocoon and now with the second seat. I have a dog too and do a lot of walking. We picked ours up on eBay for £140 with double kit and it was honestly like new - it's now well used and abused but has been a real life line for me!

happyhow Wed 14-Aug-13 02:03:38

After 22hrs of boob strike, Bailey has won...

Pascha Wed 14-Aug-13 07:20:17

Poor Happy guess it'll be morning and evening feeds for Bailey then. He will be fine, not sure about you though wink.

Daniel has 2 fangs this morning. No sign of the two t teeth inbetween them though.

Lora1982 Wed 14-Aug-13 07:39:21

[Grin] at the fangs!

Can you deal with just a morning feed happy? Thats pretty much all dexter will do now the rest of the day its a bottle at dinner and a 30 sec boob visit s every now and then.

The genious straw drinking baby cant figure out his cups. Dp thinks he'll never get it no faith had to remind him that its a different shape to anything he's sucked so he has to do it on accident a couple of times to realise how to do it.

Dexter loves toes and will happily stick anyones in his mouth so no boob man here but a weird foot fetish one maybe

lollipoppi Wed 14-Aug-13 09:11:23

hmm Happy .. little monkey!

Pascha bet that looks so cute!

happy when i went back to work after ds2 i just used to feed morning and evening. I used to really look forward to those quiet moments at the end of the day. He only had normal food and cups of water in between although he was over 9 months.

Loving the fangs pascha

Ivy has moved to a valved sippy cup after discovering she could shower everything in sight with the free flow ones! She seems to be 'getting it' now which is good as the world is too interesting to keep stopping for a boob. She won't feed now unless really hungry.

In other news she slept 7-5 last night shock Would have been great except she decided 5 was a good time to get up for the day confused

happyhow Wed 14-Aug-13 10:46:12

You would never have known that he hadn't had any milk for so long yesterday so I know he'll be fine at nursery without anything and I'll just need to do morning, tea time and bedtime I think. He better start sleeping through soon though - that's going to be the killer for me....

Love the description of fangs, Pascha!

lollipoppi Wed 14-Aug-13 18:40:00

Apple great news on the sleep! Bet you felt like a new person today! Apart from the early start smile

Happy that's good that he is not too fussed in the daytime for milk, one less thing to worry about! DD is starting to cut down on milk too now she much prefers food, tonight she demolished an entire omelette! shock

glorious Wed 14-Aug-13 19:36:40

Gah I think my baby hates London. She was so much sleepier in Bristol.

newbie6 Wed 14-Aug-13 21:33:30

Hi everyone,

Is it normal for your 7 mth old to start waking in the night again despite previously sleeping through? I know some are having problems with their wee ones sleeping at all but just wondered for those whose babies were sleeping through, 7 to 7 if at this stage they have found theirs waking more at night again? My LO goes down at 7pm but seems to lately be waking about 4 or sometimes 11pm ish?

Am thinking its maybe just a growth spurt as he's eating his 3 solid meals a day and averaging about 31oz of milk?

Any ideas?


newbie i think thete are lots of reasons they start waking up again at this stage. Teeth, growth spurts stuck on their ruddy stomach again , not feeding enough through the day as distracted by the pretty colours etc! grin

That said it sounds like he is getting plenty of food, any teeth?

glorious hope shes sleeping now flowers wine

lolli i should feel rested except i went to bed around midnight... [idiot emoticon] Still was nice, now if i can just convince her 5 am is not time to get up smile

Ivy is trying to push up on to her knees now. Dcs are encouraging this madness. Need to start putting stairgates up again and remind everyone that lego and play doh are not baby friendly!

Oh and cute moment of the day was ds2 feeding Ivy her yogurt earlier, was really sweet!

newbie6 Wed 14-Aug-13 22:40:58

Thanks apples, no sign of teeth at all so who knows! X

glorious Wed 14-Aug-13 22:56:46

She -was- until I went to bed myself apples ...

Lostbobbles Wed 14-Aug-13 22:58:19

Apples loving cute moment, my DD1 can really make DD2 giggle now it's so cute to watch grin apart from the over boisterous moments which freak me the hell out. Stair gate's are back up here, she's such a liability keeps having a go at pulling herself up on anything she can reach up to.

Pacha - lol of the fangs

Proud mummy moment today DD1 swam 8 lengths during her swimming lesson and even managed to concentrate for more than two seconds. grin

Packed up the crib and other baby items to get rid of today had a small gut wrench moment that this time they are not going in the loft and then reminded myself of child birth and 7 months of broken nights and soon came to my senses

Wish everyone a good night

Birdies Thu 15-Aug-13 08:26:27

Aw apple that's really cute. And lost well done to your little DD1!

newbie the painful bit of teething is meant to happen before the teeth appear, so they could still be on their way even if you can't see anything. At 7 months that would be my guess anyway.

This is something only other mums would understand, but....X did her first solid poo this morning! I'm so proud hahaha!

Need to ask a food question though - is it bad to always give her weetabix for breakfast and fruit and yoghurt for tea, and just vary the lunch every day? Or should all 3 meals be varied each day? What does everyone else do?

Lora1982 Thu 15-Aug-13 08:48:26

Had a read of jan2013 part one last night. I do believe we've all come a loooong way congratz are in order :-D

birdies ds1 had a gourmet organic different recipe from annabel karmel at least twice a day (!) Ivy has whatever is to hand at mealtimes and its frankly a bit samey. My point is both seems to work and it is stiil new to them so i doubt they are bothered!

lost we had the pulling up thing this morning. She tried to pull herself up on the fire guard then fell and bumped her cheek sad

lora i keep thinking of where i was thia time kast year and am so grateful i got through it and Ivy is so worth it

And <drumroll> she slept through! 7-6.30! ok so i was in a puddle of milk but it felt like xmas grin

Pascha Thu 15-Aug-13 10:17:31

I'm sewing in nametapes for DS1 this morning. I can't believe he starts preschool in september. Looking online for new winter clothes for him too and I've realised because of the difference in seasons and age that a lot of DS1's clothes are no good really for DS2 - all the 9-12 month stuff I have is summery so there goes another chunk of cash on new clothes.

Dan has half a weetabix, a couple of spoons of plain yoghurt and fruit puree for breakfast about half the time, the other half is toast/pancakes/crumpet. He tends not to have a proper lunch, maybe a bit of banana or satsuma or cucumber with a rice cake or two. Teatime he becomes a right piggy, they both have whatever we eat usually in one form or another.

Off to look at our first thread now Lora. Anything to pass the time sewing...

Pascha Thu 15-Aug-13 10:20:56

Lost pulling up already shock Its all going so fast!

Birdies Thu 15-Aug-13 12:47:42

lost bloomin heck I missed that, pulling herself up?! Blimey.

Thanks apple and pascha. I will carry on as I am smile

Do you worry when they shove lots of food in their mouths at once though? X is always gagging and coughing bits of food up. It makes me want to go back to purees instead of finger food.

Meringue33 Thu 15-Aug-13 16:46:10

Wow Apples maybe there is light at the tunnel for us all smile

Sick on holiday. I want to go home now. At least LO is enjoying himself smile

Birdies Ds is terrible for that - he shovels it in until his mouth is so full that he can't chew. Then he spits it all out and starts again. He also hides food in his cheeks!

No real progress on sleep, although he seems to have settled into a routine of waking to feed every 3 hours. Do they just grow out of this or should I actually do something about it? I would love a full night's sleep.

Very impressed at the pulling up! We haven't quite mastered crawling yet!

Loveitall Thu 15-Aug-13 18:42:22

Hi all, well, been busy last couple of days, ds has been very clingy so haven't had much time to myself. I think he is beginning to cut his second tooth, the first has popped through now, the second, I think I can see a little bump appearing. Food wise he is on 3 meals a day. Weetabix is his favoured breakfast, vary it by either having with banana or stewed fruit. Lunch and tea vary depending on what I have in. It is still puréed tho I did give him a bit of toast and cheese spread which he began to get the hang of..he was chewing but didn't eat much... By a step at a time I guess.

Can I say tho, he is now a poo machine, 4 poos today!

Angielka Fri 16-Aug-13 10:28:46

Congrats apple! there is hope for us all smile

birdies it's the worst part of BLW, but Molly seems to have got through the worst of the gagging and coughing. We get it much less often now. They have to learn some way or other - eventually they'll get it that the most efficient is not to shovel so much in they can't chew grin.

Are many of the babies crawling? We have a lot of trying to pull up and leaning forward almost into crawling position then moaning with frustration because she still can't reach whatever she's trying to get to. One part of me wants her to crack it so she's less frustrated but I also agree with pascha it's going too fast!!

Pascha Fri 16-Aug-13 11:08:07

We have rocking on hands and knees, and commando-slithering backwards on his tummy (then massive complaints when he backs himself into a corner hmm) but no crawling or pulling up yet. He does like standing while held though, and I can let go for a few seconds if he has the sofa to hold onto.

Its cold here today.

Lora1982 Fri 16-Aug-13 11:30:14

No crawlyness here yet either he has figured how to slowly turn round to face where he wants to go, but no forwardness. He likes standing against stuff too.

No actual crawling yet but increasingly getting onto her knees and still hurling herself at what she wants like ds1 biscuit poor boy had to leave the room in the end

Another good night, i could get used to this! Hopefully there is hope for all as Ivy is one of the oldest. She is even having decent morning naps too althougj afternoon one still a bit hit and miss. I can actually get things done and spend time with older dc whilst she naps now yay!

Hope everyone else ok

I've finally sat down for 5 mins with a cup of tea and the cat has jumped on my lap for a cuddle. I think she misses the attention she used to get pre-dd sad

Angiel dd sounds about the same as yours, she tries to crawl but doesn't quite have the strength yet and her fat belly gets in the way

DD is on three meals now, for breakfast she usually has porridge and fruit, for lunch something like sandwiches. I give her tea at around 5pm and she usually has whatever DP and I have eaten the night before, reheated. Then DP and I cook and eat ours after she has gone to bed. Birdies mine also shovels food into her mouth as fast as she can. She often has a bit of food in each hand, and tries to get them both in her mouth at the same time. She hardly gags these days though, she seems to have worked out what she can swallow and what she needs to spit out.

It feels like all I do is cook and clear up food at the moment.

Loveit I'm with you on the poos, just as I had got used to her only going once a week when we were bfing. And now they stink!

Congrats on the sleep Apple

Sleep-wise, things are slowly improving <crosses fingers>. She goes down for the night in her cot around seven, then sometimes wakes in the evening and needs rocking back to sleep usually just as we have served our dinner out. Then she wakes at some point in the night - I don't look at the time - and feeds, then falls asleep in bed with us till she wakes up for the day anytime between six and eight.

For us, better sleep has coincided with starting solids, and also introducing a fairly fixed bedtime of 7pm and bedtime routine (thanks to the no cry sleep solution).

Hello all!

Sleep is still fairly crap here- jealous of those who are having better nights. C is 33 weeks tomorrow. Gaviscon for her reflux constipated her, so she's off that now sad

She's on three meals a day, too, loving porridge, weetabix or toast for brekkie or pain au chocolat , pasta... Actually anything tbh.

We've had crawling for a good few weeks, and pulling up, and now she's starting to take her first steps with her walker shock

Nowhere is safe ...

newbie6 Fri 16-Aug-13 18:10:09

Hi everyone,

Sorry for those of you with poor sleepers, hopefully as they say, things can only get better! My wee one is 31 weeks today, on 3 meals but pretty much still purée stuff as he gags on anything else but I've given him some of those finger food things like carrot sticks and apple rice cakes and he manages some of them. No crawling signs and is still not sitting independently but don't think it will be long! No teeth either, lazy boy smile

Have a good weekend everyone!


DS had toast this morning. He had a piece in each hand and was eyeing up a third piece on his tray. He decided the best course of action was to lean forward and suck it off the tray hmm

We had three pretty good naps today so I have high hopes for a better night tonight. If I can only get him to stop head butting his cot and go to sleep.

Pascha Fri 16-Aug-13 18:59:31

That made me laugh Cupcakes. Spaghetti bolognese for us tonight. He wouldn't wait for any spoon and stuck his hands straight in the bowl. I just left him to it in the end and now he's orange from head to foot grin

Nearly bedtime, then I need to pack a bag for Dan as he's going to stay with Nanny tomorrow. We're off to Lollibop with DS1 on the train and decided Daniel wouldn't get enough out of it to warrant all the extra crap we'd have to tote around so its just the three of us - DH, DS1 and me. Haven't had that since before Dan was born.

Oh... My... God... DS just fell asleep in his cot. As in, he was in his cot awake, and then he fell asleep. He has NEVER done that. I've always had to rock him to sleep then transfer him. I try to put him down awake every night but it always descends into screaming within a few minutes, but tonight he just dropped off. Perhaps this is the start of a whole new sleeping baby? <crosses fingers. And toes>

Loveitall Fri 16-Aug-13 20:25:49

cupcakes yay for falling asleep in cot grin

Much better today in the love household...he actually had a proper afternoon nap which made such a difference to his mood this afternoon.

Going to be slowly introducing finger foods as he is making the chewing motions now...doing it while dh isn't around as he isn't keen on the gaggin and doesn't think he is ready...I hate the gagging but will persevere as I think ds will become more accustomed to finger foods the more he has. Will see which one of us wins out!

Angielka Fri 16-Aug-13 20:27:16

Congrats cupcakes! Just have to get the naps right and he'll sort out the rest wink it's such a massive relief when they do something 'right' unexpectedly, isn't it?!

Tee hee pascha sounds like our experience with pasta and meatballs this week...

Off to my parents tomorrow for a week visiting friends and relatives while DH works. If I can get DD1 to stop surreptisiously kicking the baby I will consider it a success and if Molly continues to sleep better I might get more sleep and stop telling DD1 off long enough to have some fun with her

Angielka Fri 16-Aug-13 20:28:24

love hasn't your DH figured out who wins the baby-related disagreements yet? wink

Loveitall Fri 16-Aug-13 20:35:22

Hehe, he's getting there! I'm going away with ds on Monday to the family caravan with dsd and dm. 3 days to crack finger food before hubby joins us grin

On the poo front...only 2 today...although this mornings was the equivalent of a whole weeks lot of poo I swear!

Tugstonia Fri 16-Aug-13 20:37:33

Excellent news cupcakes! Long may it continue smile

Hope everyone's well this evening. DD went to sleep at 6.30pm tonight and I've just enjoyed a long, hot bath for the first time in ages. DP is out and it's really quite nice to have an evening to myself. Last night DD slept 7pm to 5.30pm and then 6 to 7.30am - the turnaround since doing CC is quite amazing! Hope I haven't just jinxed it

Food-wise, she has porridge with banana/fruit puree or toast for breakfast, toast and steamed veg sticks with hummus for lunch and bits and bobs for tea (e.g. cheese stick, rice cake, fruit). I do give her the occasional Ella's Kitchen pouch as well... Need to change it up a bit I think.

Quick bf question: how many times day are you bfing your dc now that they're on solids? I'm still doing 4 or 5 times (morning, mid-morning, mid-afternoon, bedtime, and occasionally at about 4am). Does that sound about right?

Have a good week away Angie and enjoy Lollibop Pascha

djvesi Fri 16-Aug-13 20:37:36

Hi Ladies!
I've been MIA since DD arrived but finally started back reading the thread this week.

Had to comment to loveitall, I have resorted to the same stealth finger food administration. DH acts as though I'm being an unfit mother whenever she ends up with a little chunk in her mouth which she always spits out

So good to see how you're all progressing! We've got a very vocal little songstress, still belly scooting and not sitting, still waking 2-4 hourly for feeds. Praise be the morning coffee!

Tugstonia Fri 16-Aug-13 20:38:27

Ooh yes the poo... jeez it's stinks doesn't it?! And DD did about 5 today

Tugstonia Fri 16-Aug-13 20:40:03

PS still no rolling here let alone crawling or pulling up, I'm v impressed with those that are! One of my NCT group babies is scooting around her living room shock

Tugstonia Fri 16-Aug-13 20:40:15

Welcome back djvesi!

Loveitall Fri 16-Aug-13 20:46:02

[djvesi] so glad it's not just me who is having to resort to stealth tactics!

Ds can commando crawl across the room frighteningly quickly now..can't take my eyes off him! He has also today discovered that there is a room where I go to get his bottle/food etc :/

Hi all

cupcakes that made me laugh! And yay on the falling asleep! Really hope you will be getting q full nights sleep now smile

Welcome back djvesi.

Agree on the poo! Makes me pine for the days of fully bfing!

tugs Ivy is bf about the same as your dd so sounds about right to me! smile

pascha enjoy lollibop and a bit of time with ds1.

Ivy is currently working on stealing chocolate biscuits from ds1! Nothing is safe these days.

Dp doing extra shifts this week so on my own with them all since last week, hes only around for dinner! I'd give anything for 5 mins peace! sad

happyhow Fri 16-Aug-13 21:43:33

Tugs, I was exactly the same for feeds until today. Was at the health visitor this morning and she told me to cut out the mid-morning and afternoon feeds to encourage him to eat more solids so that he'd hopefully sleep through and not need the 4am one. He was grumpy late afternoon but I just kept handing him breadsticks and offering water and he ate like a gannet at tea time! First day of trying it so will have to wait and see how it pans out.

Can't believe some babies are crawling and standing and walking! B still hasn't mastered rolling! Although it's not far away. He can sit for absolutely ages on his own though.

Had my first Brazilian today since B was born. Seeing as I was starting to look like Miranda from SATC, it was sore one! Although I think after childbirth, it was a breeze!

Lora1982 Fri 16-Aug-13 23:10:07

Cupcakes well done you on the cot sleeping, I was going to try it tonight but was too lazy cos he seems to prefer sleeping on his side and cant do that if im rocking in a pram.

Helllooo djvesi

Boob feedings a bit of a fail here tugs he has some in the morning before breakfast and if I offer any other time its a quick ten seconds. So I get scared he'll dehydrate so he has a bottle in the afternoon. Only other he gets is droplets from the pump in his breakfast.... and they really are droplets, think my boobs are giving up. But aslong as he seems happy in himself I sharnt worry. The same with yours, if they arent crying for more they clearly have enough.

Lora DS is a side sleeper - now that he's able to move himself around he's definitely going to sleep more easily, which is why I gave it a go.

Apple You have my sympathies - DH is working away Mon-Fri at the moment. It's hard, isn't it? Fortunately MIL is staying for a bit to help out, which takes the pressure off a bit.

Not a bad night last night! He woke at 8.30 after banging his head on the cot (again), but got him back to sleep fairly easily. Then he woke at 12.30 and 4.30, so much better than we have been getting.

I've been Christmas shopping for DS already. I'm stupidly excited about his first Christmas...

Loveitall Sat 17-Aug-13 08:30:37

cupcakes. So glad I'm not the only one who has started buying crimbo stuff for ds...am so ridiculously excited...I am saying we will not go over the top as he won't remember this chrismtas....but in reality.........

lollipoppi Sat 17-Aug-13 08:54:05

Hi all,
Not had chance to post for a bit, these little bambinos are doing great! Especially B on the steps shock !

DD has croup hmm she has been utterly miserable and v clingy!
She is 6 and half months now, I've lost count in weeks!
DS1 is a bit more interested in her now she is mobile which is lovely to watch, but DS defo needs to work on his sharing skills!

Loveit it's their first Christmas - of course we must go over the top! We're buying DS some Toot Toot drivers sets. Mostly because DH and I want to play with them!

Lolli hope the croup gets better soon.

cupcakes snap! Am getting samr for me Ivy smile

This xmas will be mad as ds2 xmas eve bday just a wrrk before Ivys new year one! Started shopping for bits a while ago...might go bankrupt otherwise!

lolli hope your dd is better soon.

Lora1982 Sat 17-Aug-13 10:18:06

Mil was talking presents yesterday and pointed out that after their birthdays its a looong wait til christmas again so shes buying something for now for his christmas and an older thing for his birthday

Birdies Sat 17-Aug-13 10:19:43

Hi djvesi

pascha enjoy, sounds fun envy

Ivy sounds like a cheeky little monkey apple!

Poor DD lolli

Anyone else feed their baby to sleep? I used to always make sure she self settled but somewhere along the way I started feeding her to sleep and now she can't seem to sleep without.

Someone was asking about crawling. X is 8 months at the end of this month and is sitting independently but not looking like she wants to move about. So no crawling or moving forwards on her tummy. The only rolling she does is to get off her tummy to avoid tummy time! And a bit of back to front rolling if she wants a toy. But they change so quickly - last time when I said she wasn't sitting, the next day she did!

Lora1982 Sat 17-Aug-13 11:39:17

Woo thanks cupcakes for giving me the confidence to shuv him in his cot without any rocking, with the help of ewan he's gone straight sleep for his morning kip.

Ive not needed to feed to sleep for a while birdies, , I'll let him have a go but if he comes off I stick him in his box with a dummy

lolli poor dd and you sad

birdies I feed to sleep, or she gets fed then her dummy in. Either way, she sucks to sleep.

She's still napping from about 10 this morning. I am gobsmacked.

djvesi Sat 17-Aug-13 12:14:10

Hey Birdies, I was feeding to sleep every time, but somewhere along the way she just started staying awake after feeds. So now it's feed, burp/cuddle, then into cot (~8pm), or pram cot (morning and afternoons). We had some tears the first few evenings, but now she doesn't cry at all.

Birdies We used to but actively trying not to any more. Trouble is, I just don't have the heart to wake him if he falls asleep! I'm currently reading "The No-Cry Sleep Solution" and her suggestion for that is to gently unlatch them just as they're nodding off, but still let them fall asleep on your lap as a first step. If they root around a lot let them latch back on and try again. I've not tried it yet so can't vouch for it, but it seems like quite a gentle method of getting them used to not needing the boob to fall asleep.

Lora great news! Perhaps we're all going to be making progress from now on.

Angielka Sat 17-Aug-13 21:41:47

birdies my DD1 never crawled - she went straight to walking at 11 months and until then moaned all the bloody time until we walked her about. That's why I was asking about crawling because Molly is so nearly there but I have no idea when things should click into place.

I went through a patch of feeding to sleep, but now she stays awake after feeds, like djvesi said. She does suck her thumb though, so she uses sucking to get to sleep once I've put her down in her cot.

lolli hope the croup clears up soon sad

lora I'm a total ewan convert now - think she uses him more than the sucking to get to sleep now...

Lora1982 Sat 17-Aug-13 21:46:40

Five mins and hes asleep in his cot with ewan grin my childs great

Pascha Sun 18-Aug-13 09:00:41

DS1 did the rocking back and forward on hands and knees thing from about 7.5 to 9.5 months but never really got the hang of crawling. He was pulling up at 9 months, cruising at 10 and walking at 11 months.

Dan is rocking now, it looks like he's so nearly there with the crawling but I know from experience it could go on like this for ages or never really click at all. Makes not a jot of difference to when they start walking.

Polyethyl Sun 18-Aug-13 09:10:36

I was trying to introduce food slowly to my DD. I bought the Karmel book. I steamed and pureed. I let baby play with the spoon. I bathed her afterwards. Now I'm on holiday with my mother. She watched that palaver then went out and bought pre made puree, straightjacketed the baby took command of the spoon and shoveled the food in. So much easier. Sod letting the baby learn spoon handling skills! My mother is crowing about my reluctant admission that maybe, just this once, she knows best! And baby is cheerful. Thank God.

Birdies Sun 18-Aug-13 09:45:41

We had a night like she was only a few days old last night. Up every 1.5 hours. It was awful. Then at 540am she lies there grunting and straining until 7am when I got DH to take her downstairs. I can only think its tummy ache from solid food. Or from me feeding her every time she wakes which I know I shouldn't but I'm so zombiefied I just pick her up and feed her.

I'm knackered.

Does anyone's baby who still gets fed to sleep every time actually sleep well? I'm also wondering if I need to tackle that as she just won't settle unless she's fast asleep from feeding.

cupcakes thanks I actually have that book somewhere, I will dig it out and have a read.

Angielka Sun 18-Aug-13 09:56:33

birdies when Molly was waking up every two hours and I fed her each time, I think she got full of wind and it made her sleep worse than usual. Since sinding DH in when she wakes before three hours after her last feed, she has slept much better. Last night she woke at 10pm when I fed her, then midnight when she fell asleep again without a feed, then she didn't wake until 5am. It's so hard when you're sleep-deprived to make a plan to tackle it, but that book sounds like a good one.

Loveitall Sun 18-Aug-13 13:06:53

Think ds next tooth is on its way, up twice last night crying. Then very very grumbly and crying lots today.

Ugh. I've really buggered up DS' nap. Spent too long trying - and failing - to get him in his cot and now he's over tired. He's been screaming for nearly an hour now ad no amount of rocking / feeding will get him to sleep. I could kick myself. Why didn't I just let him sleep on me?

DH is really winding me up too - he's basically sat on his backside all weekend whilst I've been running around like an idiot trying to get stuff done.

Loveitall Sun 18-Aug-13 21:21:27

Hugs cupcakes hope ds got to sleep eventually.
We have struggled with ds afternoon nap but we are starting to have him go down in his cot for a nap in the pm now.

And big news in the love household is that ds ate toast and cheese spread as finger food tonight.. No coughing or gagging and dh was there and saw it with his own eyes smile

Lostbobbles Sun 18-Aug-13 21:52:32

Fab on the finger food, well done mini love grin

Pacha / Apples lol at the pasta sauce coated babies, the mess they manage to create is just incredible. shock

Exhausted here, DD1's party yesterday, went really well but so glad it's over. Organising and sleep deprivation was not good in my already brain dead head confused thank god for dear friends who helped pull it all together.

DD2 is still being a pain shit at night and waking at least 2-3 times and to make matter worse keeps standing up in the sleepbag and then loses her footing and falls over hmm have used a blanket tonight but she doesn't stay under it for more than two minutes.

Re Xmas presents - you ladies are organised. My DD2 will be getting re wrapped hand me downs as I suffered extreme first baby syndrome and have a loft full of stuff i even have a wipes warmer!! We have been struggling to think of birthday presents for DD1 and today came home from the garden centre with a bloody fish tank feel sorry for the impending fish, DH and I do not have a good track record with looking after fish

Loveitall Sun 18-Aug-13 22:38:46

lost I feel your pain with fish we also struggle to keep fish alive I have a tarnished history with them shall we say

Pascha Mon 19-Aug-13 04:12:08

Dan will be getting a toybox for Christmas, just as ds1 did, so that's ok. No idea about birthday though. We also suffered extreme pfb syndrome in regard to presents so there isnt much biggish we could get, guess it will be a balloon in a box then.

Why am I awake at 4am thinking of this? I don't know! No other fucker in this house is! hmm

happyhow Mon 19-Aug-13 06:49:04

I love my boy. He's just done 6.50pm-6.40am for the first time ever! Back at work today so I actually feel quite refreshed!

I've bought some clothes for Xmas/bday but that's all so far.

Bailey required a full change of clothes after lunch yesterday - he had food everywhere!

lollipoppi Mon 19-Aug-13 06:57:20

Whoop whoop happy!! Good luck with your first day back at work!!

I've not even thought about Xmas yet, need to get organised! (I say this every year)

DD is much better now and back to her cheeky self smile

Great news happy! Enjoy your first day back at work.

loll glad dd is on the mend.

Better night here, too - DS only woke twice.

Pascha Mon 19-Aug-13 15:22:57

Danny is pissing himself laughing at babies on youtube grin.

Lora1982 Mon 19-Aug-13 18:52:16

Hope all went well happy. Ive got a meeting friday to see if I can not go back til xmas. From my understanding I can have an extra 3 months unpaid... but I could do kit days to bring some money in during that time.

Im not up on this at all. Til the end of sept is smp then til oct 27th is my accrued holidays... so I could push it further. Worked out all I need is £510 a month to cover all bills. I can do this cant I?!

Someone will be along in a bit to paint a big, black x on my door.

I think ds has the pox ...

lollipoppi Tue 20-Aug-13 07:05:41

Pascha share the link smile

Lora I'm really not sure about the maternity pay I'm self employed so not sure how it all works?

Bunty hmm hope he is ok? Has he got the spots?

He is fine in himself, thanks, but had some suspicious little pimples last night, which have filled overnight and are definitely chicken pox, so there's no wondering about it now.

Luckily, I think dh is going to be able to work from home in the mornings whilst I'm also working, as Alex can't go to nursery until they've all scabbed.

Lostbobbles Tue 20-Aug-13 14:04:12

Wish DS well Bunty, virasoothe supposed to be good.

Good to hear DD on the mend Lolli

DD2 still playing up at night with several wakings hmm

glorious Tue 20-Aug-13 15:46:06

Awh poor thing bunty . Hope the rest of you don't get it.

Total nap refusal today despite my best efforts. Discounting a ten minute snooze on the boob she's only just succumbed. shock Bloody teeth.

And she seems to have reacted to egg, she's covered in hives.

Meringue33 Tue 20-Aug-13 17:10:58

Aw poor Bunty and Glorious babies x

I am tired. Back from the D&V holiday. Think LO may have bug now as changing a lot of dirty nappies! Either that or pendulum has just swung the other way after severe constipation.

In other news he's changed his mind about naps in cot hmm, or sleeping in cot at night after the first wake up.

Sense of humour tho is widening daily. Today I knocked over a glass of water and he PHSL. I can tell him and DP are going to totally gang up on me in this house! smile

octanegirl Tue 20-Aug-13 19:33:38

How is weaning going for everyone? I struggle to come up with enough variety I think - he gets used to something and eats lots of it and then I change to something new and he'll only eat a tiny bit. Sigh...

octane I'm a bit like that. Tends to be whatever has been frozen down and i've remembered to defrost

On the subject of weaning is anyones baby seeming to be more 'sicky'? Ivy seems well as normal. Eating fine, no temp or anything but last few days has been sicking up some things. It seems worse after shes had water from her cup,.so wondered if was due to the valve so changrd back to free flow. I suppose it could be down to spending more time onher belly? Or maybe i am.over feeding her? She had had less today and not as much coming back up?

I should know all thia but have completly forgotten if any of this is normal!

Have been on my own with all 4 today and am frankly at the end of my rope sad

apple hope you can put your feet up when they're all in bed.

octane we are BLW so DS has whatever we're having unless it's too nice to share. He will eat anything, though his favourites seem to be anything eggy or paper based.

Don't look now, but we're getting some improvement in sleep! Little man has skipped one of his night feeds 3 nights in a row. Different feed each time, but that's still progress, right?

Took MIL into town today and we spent a small fortune on fabric. Can't wait to make a start on DS' christmas stocking!

lollipoppi Tue 20-Aug-13 21:15:29

Meringue glad your feeling better hope DS is ok too

Octane DD is BLW too as the little madam won't let me feed her anymore but I struggle too everything seems to be the same and to be honest a bit boring!

Apple hope the kids are in bed now and you having some wine

Cupcakes yay on the sleeping! Fingers crossed it continues smile

Horrible day over here, DS1 fell and face planted the corner of some concrete steps in mums garden, his mouth took the full fall and he has a massive cut inside where his tooth went into his lip and bruised all his top gums hmm poor little man

lollipoppi Wed 21-Aug-13 08:18:42

Urgh, up 1.30-3.30am, pass the brew

Meringue33 Wed 21-Aug-13 12:43:54

Aw poor DS1 Lolli sad

LO fell off the bed yesterday and thumped his head. He seemed alright and 111 advised not to go to A&E. I felt awful though! He was right in the centre playing and I only turned my back for a minute. Lesson learned!

Apples I feel at the end of my rope too. Just so bloody tired. When is he going to sleep through????

Birdies Wed 21-Aug-13 12:58:20

Ouch, lots of injuries sad Hope everyone is ok.

angiel I think it was you who said about not feeding too often at night. Well Ive done the odd jiggle to sleep instead and am now down to one feed at 2am! So thanks smile Right, how do I tackle the 6am waking?! She only sleeps 10 hours at night, surely that should be more?

Am also aware that everytime I report a good sleep on here it all changes again....

bunty how are you doing with the quarantine?

cupcakes glad you're getting more sleep too. Lolli brew

apples can't help I'm afraid, never any sick here. But I guess if she's well in herself then you're doing the right thing by just trying a different cup and a bit less food.

octane I'm doing ok with the weaning but exactly the same as you re variety. I like it when she likes something so I kind of stick to it. But I do try to vary her finger food. And each meal I make sure she has some finger food to play with and try. I now vary her breakfast so it's either weetabix, ready brek or baby porridge (with say banana in a mesh bag, pear or some other fruit). Lunch is toast plus something (eg cucumber or broccoli) and tea is some sort if hot meal with rice cakes or something. So all finger food for lunch. Maybe I need to change that. But as long as she does the odd solid poo I reckon it's ok! I also give her Wellkid vitamin drops twice a day so I know she's getting all the vitamins she needs.

Blimey that was a long post.

Meringue33 Wed 21-Aug-13 17:02:52

Restored after an afternoon with other mums smile

Note to self: must get out of the house as much as possible.

Hardly any napping in the cupcake household today. Doesn't bode well for tonight!

It's Ds' christening this weekend. Was really looking forward to it, but SIL has started bulldozing things. She already changed the menu and now she wants to change the reading, which her daughter is supposed to be doing. Grr. Same thing happened at my wedding. If this keeps up I shall have to go a tiny bit nuclear. angry

lollipoppi Wed 21-Aug-13 20:58:06

Birdies, yay on the sleeping! If you figure out the 6am waking please share!

Cupcakes shockshockshock on the SIL!! She sounds delightful!
I am livid on your behalf angry

Birdies Wed 21-Aug-13 21:24:10

cupcakes it's christening weekend for us too! You are far more tolerant than me though, I would be livid if that happened! Although I guess as a good catholic I should be more tolerant grin Hope you manage to enjoy it anyway.

birdies I am dying! In bed already reading and mn'ing as ds was up most of the night, wakening madam. He's all spots, feeling v sorry for himself, wheezy, lost his voice, and when not dosed to the gunnels with calpol or nurofen is burning up. sad spots are everywhere, even in between his bum cheeks when I was wiping him after a poo today (glam, eh?).

Dh and I managed, I think, maybe 3 hours sleep last night. He's now in the spare room, poised for action tonight, ds's cot is back in our room, door is shut, and I'm hoping for a better night all round.

Enjoy th christenings, birdies and cupcakes!

Angielka Wed 21-Aug-13 22:33:54

yay birdies! Glad it helped you too. Oh, we've had a few 5.30 wakings so can't help you there sad

Cejay8 Thu 22-Aug-13 18:58:55

DS has always been an early riser I'm afraid to say; and we've tried everything! He's 3 now and we feel lucky to get to 6.30am without hearing him potter around his room. DD is waking at a similar time but I feed her and put her back to bed normally. On the upside I normally have them both in bed at around 6.30pm, 7pm latest wine

Meringue33 Fri 23-Aug-13 02:43:35

Seriously. I don't mind getting up to do a night feed. I do mind getting up to do a feed, two nappy changes and hanging around for 1-2 hours to keep LO company until he finally decides he wants to sleep again angry

glorious Fri 23-Aug-13 06:43:28

Early wakings are a total killer aren't they. Strangely the thing that seems to have helped is me stopping obsessing over daytime naps so that rather than desperately forcing her to have 3 hours (4 just impossible) by pacing the streets all day I put her down and if she won't resettle after 40 mins then so be it. And magically the day no longer starts at 530. We're up feeding atm but she's falling back to sleep smile

Yesterday I spoke to the nursery we have been registered with since October and they won't have a place for Ellen in January/February as they've filled everything in September and we're 7th on the list for any spaces that do come up. They take 9 1-2s so seems unlikely. Our other local nursery also full. I'm looking into childminders but not keen on most of them from their adverts. Grrrr, London.

I'm seeing a friend with a 6 week old today, very excited!

Meringue33 Fri 23-Aug-13 10:03:54

Uh oh Glorious! I am dreading similar news. The nursery keep giving me verbal reassurance that we should be ok to get a place, but they can't confirm yet. I didn't like anywhere else we viewed so if that falls through will be back to square one :O

Currently parked in a shady spot. Baby is in the back seat snoring. I have a magazine, drink and packet of chocolate Hobnobs smile

glorious Fri 23-Aug-13 10:20:54

Hopefully that makes up for the night meringue . I can't stand night nappy changes either. Just go back to sleep!

Ivy not well, up at 11-12.30 with temp. Endedup with3 overnight feeds, lots of crying and plenty of calpol sad

She seema better this morning but tired (as am i). Shes gone in the travel cot for her nap. Hoping whatever it is has peaked.

Also dd1 has a recurring eye infection so it was bacj to dr for anti bs. Now i have to fight to get drops in 4x a day sad She enjoyed her birthday on weds though, can't believe she is 5!

glorious yay on the sleep. Hope you can get something sorted for Ellen. Enjoy new baby cuddles today seems ages since ours were so little.

meringue poor you. Please join me in a brew

Hope everyone else ok.

<wanders off to wrestle with eyedrops>

Meant to say bunty hope your ds is feeling better. The pox is the pits x

Meringue33 Fri 23-Aug-13 21:21:33

Thanks guys smile

More early nights til this phase finally ends...

Lora1982 Fri 23-Aug-13 23:42:02

So had the meeting at work. I'm not back properly til first week of jan grin but I will be in a week in sept and dec for the sales for kit day so some money will come in.

We have waving and crawling backwards

Meringue33 Sat 24-Aug-13 03:27:54

So the baby is asleep in his room. DP is crashed out in the spare room having had a few drinks. I am wide awake!!! Wtf!!!

Lora1982 Sat 24-Aug-13 06:00:17

Im wide awake with tooth ache sad its not getting sorted til 18th of sep and its agony.

glorious Sat 24-Aug-13 07:14:21

It's so frustrating when you wake up and they're asleep isn't it. I'm doing that too.

Sorry about the tooth pain, if it's keeping you awake is there any chance of getting seen sooner?

Spoke too soon on the early wakings sad

Btw I realised my comment on nappies was a bit unclear. I didn't mean leave them. I just think 'why won't you sleep instead of poo' then get up and sort it out (grumpily! ).

Cejay8 Sat 24-Aug-13 09:48:35

S has been poorly the last couple days with a temp and not eating, she woke at 5.30 and was burning up again, she's been asleep the past 3 hours! I had a doctors appointment Thursday for myself so got her checked too and doctor said probably the usual viral infection thingy. It's horrid seeing them so poorly and she's hating the calpol being forced upon her. If she's no better today am thinking of taking her to be seen again. Not the greatest start to the long weekend and weather looking a bit rubbish so far. What's everyone got planned? I need some inspiration!

Lora1982 Sat 24-Aug-13 09:53:28

Im going to ring them glorious, see if theyve had a cancellation or something. Its sods law that im awake every night and its not because of the baby! To get a four hour block I take 30 strength cocodamol (left over from kind midwives) smother with orajel and adult bonjela and strap a hot water bottle to my face. Glad I extended my time off I feel like my massive break from works been tainted the whole way.

lollipoppi Sat 24-Aug-13 10:40:55

Cejay hope S is better soon, I find Darcie takes calpol better off a spoon rather than a syringe

Apple how is ivy now? Any better?

Lora hope you manage to get an appt toothache is horrible hmm

Off out to a local show today, lots of animals and stunt shows that DS will enjoy
DP just informed me he is working all wkend and Monday, boooooo another wkend alone hmm

Cejay8 Sat 24-Aug-13 11:44:46

She's still asleep, that's 5 hours!

lollipoppi Sat 24-Aug-13 12:15:12

Have you tried to wake him?

lollipoppi Sat 24-Aug-13 12:15:32

Her! Doh smile

Cejay8 Sat 24-Aug-13 17:00:41

I woke her and took her to the walk in clinic, her throat looks very sore and they said its a viral infection. Lots of calpol, neurofen, fluids etc. She's had 7.5 hrs of naps today! And she's not complaining one bit, bless her. It's rained all day here; I need to get out of the house!

lollipoppi Sat 24-Aug-13 19:44:46

Bless her, hopefully she is sleeping it off hope she is better in the morning

Meringue33 Sat 24-Aug-13 20:09:25

Aw poor Cejay's baby hope she feels better soon sad

I know what you meant Glorious smile

This LO is on a milk only diet for 24 hrs to see if that stops his diarrhoea bum. Felt very guilty indeed when he was watching us have our salmon and mash sad

meringue and cejay hope your little ones are feeling better.

Utter terror in the cupcakes household tonight - DS choked on some pear. Had to hold him face down and slap him on the back and thank god it came out. Think I've just about stopped shaking now, but it's really made me question my decision to do BLW.

On the upside, Little Mans Naming Ceremony was yesterday and it was lovely. He has been thoroughly spoilt!

Lora1982 Mon 26-Aug-13 00:27:46

Shit with the choking! !!! I went on a first aid course but I would still be shitting myself if I had to use it. If it's the first time he's choked he may have learnt his limits now so you could carry on I wouldnt, id be a wimp and subject him to a life of puree

Milestone moment.... 1st time I've been able to get pissed in ages and dexter woke up so dp has to deal with it. He didn't have an afternoon nap so I can see the pair of them up for hours. I love u karma :-D seriously it's the 1st night in nearly 8 months ive not had to deal with it.

Pascha Mon 26-Aug-13 08:55:00

Yo. Been a few days.

Apple, Bunty, Cejay and Meringue hope babies are on the mend now. Poor DS, Cupcakes how scary. Hope he's ok now. We seem to be having a spate of poorly children don't we?

We had a great day yesterday at the local Tractorfest, got lots of pictures of the boys pretending to drive all the great big tractors and machines. It was really nice of the farmers to let all the kids clamber all over them, you don't get that very often.

Today I have to go shopping at Lakeside sad its going to be hell. At least I only have to take Dan who will be a good boy I hope. I'm going to Ikea too for my sins. I must be mad.

lollipoppi Mon 26-Aug-13 10:15:28

Jeez cupcakes that must have been scary hmm
Hope all babies are feeling better?

DD and DS are both full of colds
I'm angry with DP this morn, i was up all night with both of them, finally got to bed at 4am, DP got up with them at 6.30 after a gentle punch, then woke me up at 7 so he could go the the gym! Grrrrrrr

Yesterday's choking incident has made me a total coward. Poor DS has been subjected tomashed food all day. I was going to give him some finger food at lunch, then he got hiccups and I was afraid he'd hiccup something down the wrong way blush. By dinner time he was getting frustrated and he need up grabbing his bowl from me and slurping his down down.

Awful sleeping last night too - up every hour from midnight onwards. Perhaps we will see a tooth soon.

Cejay8 Mon 26-Aug-13 20:13:52

I've been giving S nurofen for her sore throat and fever but seems to be giving her tummy ache. She's still so grumpy, not like her at all and it's such hard work all day! I miss her!

I'm doing mostly puréed food with finger food as snacks, seems be working ok for us; she still has quite a bit of milk too. Ought to get her weighed again soon.

Meringue33 Mon 26-Aug-13 20:46:38

Thanks guys, poo is still odd but I will spare you the details!

Cupcakes how scary sad

Today I gave him rice, he got frustrated trying to lift it to his mouth so eventually just bent over and sucked/licked the grains off the high chair tray smile

Pascha Mon 26-Aug-13 21:12:42

Daniel hoovers off the tray too greedy bugger I think he'd eat his own hand if it was tasty enough.

meringue Ivy did something similar withher cup earlier. She couldn't quite get it up off her mat where she dropped it so bent over and got spout in her mouth (obviously this doesn't really work with a cup). She looked mad though! smile

cupcakes that must have been scarey.

cejay poor dd. Hope she is on the mend now.

Ivy seems better. Still sicky if i try to feed her too much so have cut down bf during the day, mostly because she is not that interested! More solids, slowing down her drinking from cup also seemed to help. Think temp was down to a virus. Sadly she no longer sleeps through and we are back to 2 feedsa night. Wouldn't be too bad but i got usedto only once or not at all. Hey ho!

Hope everyone else ok, its quiet round here at the mo!

Ps only 8 daysto go til dcs cam be handed back to professionals, i need a break --still as dp refused to take dc out on his day off , just took them into the garden whilst i cleared up inside. Why he thought that was the break and breathing room i needed is beyond me. He was like this confused when he realised i was annoyed with him!

glorious Tue 27-Aug-13 13:58:20

Poor you cupcakes that sounds terrifying. I don't blame you for the nerves.

Hope things are on the up cejay

lolli I'd have kicked him!

We're waiting in departures for Ellen's first flight. Not going well so far. She weed all over her clothes while being changed, then I temporarily lost my phone and ended up sobbing at the security people. Now the flight is delayed by an hour which is ages when you were early anyway. And the coffee shop lady got my order wrong.

Ellen's quite constipated and we've been tempting her with prune juice so I reckon we're in for an explosion on the plane!

At least it's my mum I'm staying with smile

Meringue33 Tue 27-Aug-13 16:12:04

angry for you Apples, DP needs a talking to! smile

We just had a night like that Cupcakes, up every bloody hour, god I'm knackered

Pascha this LO does try to eat his own hand - and his feet too!

Enjoy your hols Glorious smile

lollipoppi Tue 27-Aug-13 20:41:24

Glorious have a lovely holiday hope the flight was ok

I don't know wtf is going on with DD, every night for the past 3 nights she has woke screaming every half an hour until 2/3/4am
She has a cold so I'm putting it down to that and possibly some more teeth coming through

Lostbobbles Tue 27-Aug-13 23:28:23

Hello all

Sorry to hear of all poorly babies, dd2 has a bit of cold as well.

Cupcakes, choking is so scary. We have had a couple of moments but tbh I think I jump in too soon and she prob would of coughed it up but I panic.

Been busy here, friends 40th on friday, then my dad and sm were up for the weekend. Had lovely time mainly eating and drinking not enough drinking on my part smile

Today I took DD1 to legoland for her birthday (tomorrow) it was the first time I have left DD2 for so long but she was fine. DD1 had a fab time and it was so nice to spend some time with her on our own.

Apples : hope you get a break you must be exhausted! DD2 has also been feeding twice the last few days, but she has never slept anyway so not much difference to my nights.

Oh well best try get some sleep before the onslaught of presents tomorrow god only knows where I am going to put it all

Lostbobbles Tue 27-Aug-13 23:30:24

Ps - expressed 14oz on return home earlier, being away all day is torture confused dreading giving up feeding

Ds on the mend, thanks, pascha.

Had a horrendous night last night with dd, she was up every hour and has had a temp for the last 24 ... Tooth or pox? Neither have appeared as yet. This is the best night in ages, she was in bed at 8:30 and just up. I've been unable to sleep hmm on tenterhooks waiting for her to get up, so will hopefully pass out now. I am beyond tired.

She had her 8 month check today, hv v happy, and is going to get some ideas for her sleeping as we've tried everything and she is pretty much usually horrendous. She's up to 17lb9 now, babbling, and pulling up, crawling, taking some steps with her walker ... Where's my baby went??

cupcakes that is scary. I've had to turn c upside down and whack her a couple of times as she gets over enthusiastic greedy and tries to swallow things whole, or takes too big chunks. It is hard, but I think personally the best thing is to go back to the blw ASAP - don't let the fear get you!

Pascha Wed 28-Aug-13 10:46:46

We have forward motion! Commando, but forward nonetheless grin

Bunty glad DS is getting better. There's a good chance Cameron has the pox though isn't there? Can't believe she's trying to walk! The earliest walker I know was a little boy at playgroup last year who was running at 10 months old shock. There are also boy/girl twins there now 20 months, boy has been walking since february, girl still bum-shuffles everywhere. Nothing wrong, all their siblings were late walkers too, in fact boy is early for them.

DS won't get check til a year old here. DS1's was at 13 months. Think I might get Daniel weighed soon though, I last did it at 12 weeks old when the HV called in at home.

Pascha Wed 28-Aug-13 10:49:32

Lost I had that last weekend, but DS1 stepped in to oblige on the train so I didn't have to pump grin.

Now then, my thoughts are starting to turn to christmas presents and first birthday as its only 2 weeks after. Has anyone any really great ideas?

Angielka Wed 28-Aug-13 19:42:09

Ooh, sorry about all the porly babes, and the choking! Shit. Must have been terrifying.

Really don't want to jinx things but Molly has only woken once a night for the past two nights, and in my mind we are still trying to recover from the 4 month sleep regression so i can't tell you how happy that makes me. Don't you dare wake up now just to prove me wrong

Molly can now get from lying flat on her front to sitting in less time than it takes me to get up off the floor. No crawling, but the kid gets about somehow black magic?

DH's birthday today and he's in a foul mood. Probably DD1's fault. She's being a little terror.

Christmas? Oh noooo...

Lora1982 Wed 28-Aug-13 23:14:20

Maxs mum said for christmas she was going to get something he'd like now and for the birthday something he'd like summertime because theres a massive wait til the next round of presents poor planning

Had a cute moment earlier the usually yappy non sharing yorkie was passing the ball to dexter so he could play with it and chuck it, I think the dog was only being nice so he could get a lick of the yoghurt puke on the floor.

Still no forward movement, he is occasionally on his knees and hands it the correct pose as it were but its usually just the paralised leg drag pose.

I was just the other day thinking he was growing up too fast bunty. Mums just got a 2y old fosster boy though so im back to thinking hes a baby

Lostbobbles Thu 29-Aug-13 07:35:57

Still up in the night for milk twice, I think this baby is going to be about 8 before she sleeps through. I'm starting to think about giving her a bottle of formula last thing to see if it fills her up more than bm. Any other ideas welcome, I gave tried higher protein dinner and complex carbs....

Pascha - I'm thinking Xmas in a hot country I can dream RL wise I have no idea as I have a loft full of plastic paraphernalia. I am going to get the little piano with the animals from toyrsus only on the basis that DD1 never had it and used to love it at baby group and DD2 went straight for it the other day at a friends house. bet I get it before Xmas though

lollipoppi Thu 29-Aug-13 07:44:34

Hi all
Horrible few days, DS1 got blue lighted to hospital at 3am Tuesday morning having an asthma attack hmm lots of oxygen, nebulisers and steroids and we were discharged last night
DD is also still full of a cold too bless her

On a happier note ..... DD is waving, very cute

Christmas!! I've not even thought about it! Must get buying presents soon a I always leave it to the last minute
I was shopping last week and a card shop already had their Xmas cards on display shock

glorious Thu 29-Aug-13 08:10:16

Oh lolli how awful. Glad he's ok thanks

bunty good that DS is on the mend but hope Cameron isn't getting it sad

Hooray for sleep angielka !

I took Ellen in the sea at my mum's yesterday. She was not impressed! Though we think the shock triggered the poo we've been waiting for for a week. Oh my, it was epic. It just kept coming, in the end she got through three nappies just lying underneath her. And more food is going in than I realised because it isn't bf poo any more, it's just poo. Eugh. I don't think I'll ever quite recover!

Meringue33 Thu 29-Aug-13 10:17:10

So sorry to hear that Lolli thank goodness he is ok

Sleep absolutely dreadful here, relieved to hear we're not alone. Woke up to DP's alarm this morning, looked down and LO was latched on, I hadn't even realised!

Creepy how are you and Nancy? Haven't heard from you for a while smile

Birdies Thu 29-Aug-13 13:55:10

lolli that sounds so scary.

X hardly slept yesterday and then did 8-8am. So I'm now thinking less naps in the day is the answer?! Still fed her 4 times in the night though so not all fixed!

Anyone else's baby sound like a gremlin whilst eating?!

No moving about yet and still wobbly sitting, but we have had some waving too!

Had her christening as well which was lovely, though I've now c