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April 2013 - Trying to keep our (babies) cool in the summer!

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Trishstar Mon 08-Jul-13 11:36:21

Thought I'd start a new thread as AmberLav noticed we were appoaching 1000!

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ratbagcatbag Mon 08-Jul-13 11:39:40

Hi trish

Have to say I mainly use the Facebook group for us now, I find it really fab, always someone there with advice or just a friendly ear when needed. smile

Trishstar Mon 08-Jul-13 11:41:33

Me too Emma! I'm a more visual person!

catherine19 Mon 08-Jul-13 16:01:52

How much extra water should I give a ff baby in this weather?

photochick Mon 08-Jul-13 17:43:05

Catherine the last few days i have been making up a bottle of cooled boiled water. I offer it between feeds. She hasn't quite caught on yet and spits most out but I guess its still wetting her mouth. Sorry that doesn't really answer your question! I don't think they will drink that much - you still want them to feed

catherine19 Mon 08-Jul-13 18:00:01

I did him a bottle of water yesterday the same amount as his feed and he sort of took it all, it was quite funny watching the confusion and him gobble on the bottle! I just wondered I'm keeping an eye on weeing but didn't no if there was any recommendations

Teapig Mon 08-Jul-13 19:58:20

Thanks for the new thread Trish, just marking my spot.

Dysgu Mon 08-Jul-13 20:28:42

I gave E water today - we were out at the park for a teddy bears' picnic with DD1's school. He wasn't sure at first but then decided he rather liked it. I am hoping he will develop a taste for water - both DDs got there in the end and they love drinking water now which is great for school!

E is not a fan of the heat - he spent part of the afternoon hanging out in just a nappy and a muslin! grin

Trishstar Mon 08-Jul-13 20:54:32

I just made a 5oz sippy cup of cooled boiled water and let H have bits of it during the day x

LikeCandy Mon 08-Jul-13 21:07:22

marking my place waves

AmberLav Mon 08-Jul-13 21:37:21

Thanks Trish!

I'm a reluctant Facebooker, but I might bite the bullet when I'm on the proper computer tomorrow!

Too hot!!!

I'm on Facebook too but yes, still here.

H only took an ounce of water today but she's had a lot more boob than formula today, so hopefully that has quenched her first. She doesn't mind water, but it's not her favourite thing in the world.

She's a boobie girl really.

Spent half day in vest and the other half in a nappy and a thin little sheet in her bouncer, in the garden for 5 minutes each time or on her piano play gym.

She's not been too bad with the heat, her Mummy has been worse.

<Hayfever>

catherine19 Mon 08-Jul-13 22:56:09

Has anyone got any tips on getting sun cream out of clothes? I've never normal had a prob but its all over ds clothes. I wonder if its cos it's factor a zillion or that I'm less precise at putting it on!

EssexWelsh Mon 08-Jul-13 23:48:42

I'm lying in bed next to poorly baby-post injection meltdown before bed, but now I have just bought a fan (10pm tonight from Tesco-£12) and Blake's had liquid magic (calpol) all is right in the world!

AmberLav Tue 09-Jul-13 05:57:02

essex -poor Blake! And you will find that Nurofen is even more liquid magic! Think that is slowed from 3 months, and comes with a fab syringe thing that is handy for lots of things!

Joined the Facebook group, but my iPod touch won't let me post comments! Had this problem in the past hut thought it had been fixed! One of the many reasons I'm not keen on it!

I have survived 2 nights alone with my two, as DH has been away with work. Other than bath time, it was fairly reasonable, mainly as DS is at nursery Mondays and Tuesdays! Just got to get everyone up now to do the drop off, then DH will be home mod afternoon!

Might go get E weighed, as we'll be up nice and early! She's not been weighed for 5 weeks!

HadALittleFaithBaby Tue 09-Jul-13 06:38:15

Hello all. Seems I fell off the last thread! Caught up now though smile

Catherine no great advice except maybe wash with bio on a hot wash then again in non-bio? Best advice I had was to apply it before you dress so a. It doesn't go on the clothes and b. you don't miss bits where clothes move!

12 week jabs today with an already fussy baby! Hoping it goes ok.

catherine19 Tue 09-Jul-13 08:02:46

Ta hope the jabs go ok., u mite get a sleepy day (ad night hopefully!) I've twigged bout the putting it on before clothes now and using the strokes from baby massage so he does realise its something diff! But I do like to reapply think its cos I sizzle!
When I went into him this morning he was upside own in his ct, as in feet where his head had been and head where his feet were! Don't no how he managed it, I'd only been in an hr before! Little wiggler!

kellestar Tue 09-Jul-13 08:50:47

I must admit to being on Facebook more often too.

W had a great night Sunday, bed at 10pm and I woke him at 5.45am, when I realised he hadn't woke me and my boobs were throbbing.

However yesterday we were sweaty and uncomfortable all day, spending most of it in our cool lounge. Constant boob access so now have sore nipples.

He then woke every two hours last night, then DD woke at 4. We ended up with 4 in our bed.

DD seems to be more naughty than usual. Just pressing buttons and find it hard to change her behaviour once she starts on the downward spiral of naughtiness.

Hi, hope everyone is doing okay. H has been a bit irritable today and tired though not sleeping a lot, unless in bed with Mummy, which isn't ideal when Daddy comes back from work on Thursday, but if needs must.

Has anyone else's LO nearly rolled over? H isn't far off it at all. Plus she's making vowel sounds, so feel like she's doing a really good job, progress wise. I love seeing her grow and adapt to the world around her. She can also hold her rattle teething ring and hold it for 10 seconds and make it rattle.

It's just so warm here, it's unreal! She just doesn't like the heat at all. But been making sure she eats even a little of something every 3 hours, due to the heat. Does she need any extra water apart from breastmilk / formula does anyone know?

Hope everyone else is doing great and having good nights / fun with their little ones! smile

ratbagcatbag Tue 09-Jul-13 21:25:42

I'm loving it now boo is responding more, I've had an awesome weekend with her and out today with a friend who is 39 weeks pregnant. Problem is she's so good most of the time no one believes she's ever grumpy. Today's she's not cried once, been happy, smiley and cooing and gurgling. She's discovered her hands grab things and she got onto her side, I thought she was going to roll but then flopped back on her tummy to chew her hand. grin

catherine19 Tue 09-Jul-13 21:30:22

Sounds like h is doing really well it's so nice seeing changes isn't it? My little man has rolled over twice and is babbling away smile
If she's bf I think some magic goes on to give babies the fluid they need but they will feed mire often. Ff babies need extra cooled boiled water but don't no how much my lo has prob only taken bout 30 mls extra all day and it took a lot of doing! He has still been weeing though so ill just keep a close eye on it

HadALittleFaithBaby Tue 09-Jul-13 21:44:15

Well I have had a grumpy baby on my hands but her vaccinations til 2.30! She never really went into a deep sleep, waking after 10-15 minutes. Finally fell asleep as I pushed her to the doctors in the carrycot of the travel system only to be woken for injections so she was rather indignant! I fed her in the waiting room straight afterwards and then she snoozed again on the way home. Just remained fussy but fell asleep early!

ratbag I've found motherhood much easier since she started responding. Sometimes she's being a monkey then she pauses, looks up at me and grins and its all worthwhile! smile

catherine19 Tue 09-Jul-13 22:25:04

I no what u mean Hada, mine has the biggest smiles and actually starts giggling when I get him out the cot in the morning then all the tiredness goes away-for a bit!
Ooh neighbours son has just been kicking off dh wasn't impressed at my desire to go help the random his was threatening, someone else got there first and there was no physical violence but I still subtlety went to the bin!

AmberLav Wed 10-Jul-13 02:42:51

E celebrated Andy's win by rolling onto her side for the first time on Sunday, and then had practised it lots, right until her daddy came home yesterday. She hasn't done it since Daddy's been back! She's always been much more smiley than DS was, so a lot more fun to tend to (DS was a seriously grumpy child!), and nappy time is a particular delight, as she smiles and coos, right until its time to get dressed again!

Just waiting for her to drop into a deep sleep - 25 minutes seems to be the magic number for night time feeds!

angeltattoo Wed 10-Jul-13 06:34:39

Thanks for the new thread trish

I've not been on much due to DH working away, so busy busy and finally our flat has sold, yay!!!

So we'll be moving soon hopefully, cannot wait, although I was hoping to stay off work until after Christmas, the mortgage company want some £££ from us, which may mean going back earlier sad sad sad

catherine19 Wed 10-Jul-13 13:39:42

Oh no to the going bk earlier then planned. I don't no how I'm going to b able to go bk. but yay for the flat being sold are u sorted with where u are going?
It must b hard with dh being away, I keep wondering how single parents manage!
We woke this morning at 4 with major tears and wud not settle, not like ds. He was rubbing his gums so gave a go with some teething gel (bought in ages ago cos I had a feeling we'd need it at silly o clock) and he stopped crying instantly then settled so I think we may b starting with teething!

LoobyLou33 Wed 10-Jul-13 16:14:50

Ooh I've just joined the Facebook group, how exciting! I see it's easier to respond to specific questions or people that way.

I've been mostly enjoying the hot weather with the chance to put dd in mega cute summer outfits, though it's more difficult to get her enough day-sleep as I rely on taking ds1 to parks so she can nap in the buggy, and it's been too hot for him to stay outside for long.

Yesterday poor dd got really overtired because she kept waking from her naps (mainly when we arrived somewhere and stopped moving). Then my friend came round with her 3yo son who is a bit of a tearaway and there's no way she'll sleep with him around. So I sent him and my dd to play in the garden, they had a right lark but I do worry he's not a great influence on ds as he becomes much more cheeky and disobedient when they're together. E.g. normally ds sits still to eat but yesterday he was up and down, and also threw his toys around. (I gave him a telling off mind you!)
I actually said to my friend that we needed some time to ourselves then so dd could get some (relative) peace, I felt really rude but they'd been here for 3 hrs by then and I was frazzled!

Sorry this is a really waffly post, just getting it off my chest a bit and wondering what other mums do with friends whose kids are hard work? i'm probably making it sound worse than it is...Her son is lovely, just a bit wild! If I didn't have a new baby I wouldn't mind but I find myself avoiding seeing them too often even though she's kind and helpful.

AmberLav Thu 11-Jul-13 05:56:15

Lou - sorry can't give any useful advice, I'm in the strange position where pretty much everyone I know with a child of 2 has just had their second one in March/April, so we are all coping with newborns and toddlers, which changes the dynamic! All I will say is your little one will soon start napping better in the day, so maybe just accept that any limitation in contact is only temporary...

I have had massive respect for single parents ever since I had DS! You don't really think about it much before you have children, as you dont know how hard it will be!

Mama1980 Thu 11-Jul-13 09:28:19

Thanks for the new thread trish smile
I just can't keep up with this Anymore. Will try to update when I get a moment just wanted to mark my place.

photochick Thu 11-Jul-13 10:16:05

LO is 10 weeks tomorrow. Anyone else feel like they are going backwards sometimes? She suddenly went from 7 feeds a day to 6 bigger ones but now only goes 4 hours between them at night and seems to be waking more. Im exhausted!

Also advice please on a friend who I met when she was pregnant, been there for her and her son the last 5 years. I have my baby and she hasn't even sent me a decent email or popped round despite knowing i have had a bit of a tough time. Bit cheesed off.

Also loving the grins and Im sure we are not far off giggles. Must get her on the floor more to move around but she loves her chair and sometimes its just easy to stick her in it blush.

catherine19 Thu 11-Jul-13 11:22:20

I no what u mean about the friend so e of mine hav been no where to b seen, and that's not the one who admitted while I was pregnant (in good humour) that she wasn't a fan of abides so wud hav minimal co tact till he's a toddler!
I would recommend maybe hav a go at being honest, tell her u cud do with her support at the mo. it could b that she is going through something. If she doesn't respond maybe put it to the side and focus on when has been round at the mo and le her get in touch with u. Fingers crossed shell step up when u ask her to, could it be she was wanting to leave u to it and not want to disrupt u?

catherine19 Thu 11-Jul-13 11:23:21

And the feeds could maybe b a growth spurt?

Trishstar Fri 12-Jul-13 00:08:46

Hubby has had to work away hmm

He went at 5am Thursday, and not back til Friday afternoon. Me and H missing him. Really don't know how people do it all the time, big respect!!

AmberLav Fri 12-Jul-13 02:35:42

Photo- I hate to say it, but you may find that there are backward steps for the first 6 months, as they are still so little, yet growing so fast... Is there anyway daddy can help with one of the night feeds - DH used to be in charge of the dream feed, so that I could go to bed at 9, am could get 4 hours in that first chunk... My mini research group seems to prove that you can cope with most things as long as you can get a 4 hour stretch of sleep at the start if the night, with shorter stretches later in the night...

Tried to bring settling time forward by an hour last night, so E was in bed at 8pm, and has gone till now for the first feed, which is exactly the same time as she went to the previous night, so think I'll stick with an 8 pm bedtime - just need to work out the routine with DS and dinner too!

Here you all are! Marking place smile

Teapig Fri 12-Jul-13 10:02:08

photo I'd second what catherine said about your friend. If you explain that you could really do with her support and friendship at this time hopefully she'll step up. It may be that her intentions are just misplaced and she was giving you some space to settle in with the LO.

Re one step forward and one (or two) back I know what you mean. T is 11 weeks and this past week has been feeding a lot more and waking more in the night. Just as thought we'd dropped the 2am feed she reintroduced it and moved it to 1am. I'm putting it down to the hot weather and a possible growth spurt. The mumsnet motto 'this too shall pass' keeps me going. And it does seem to have passed last night she went 9pm-4.30am and then 5.30am-9.30am. I just need to bring bedtime forward.

KeepTheFaithBaby Fri 12-Jul-13 10:29:37

I'd put my money on a growth spurt too photo! I'd make light with your friend - Hey, you coming over or what?! type thing. It may be she has her own issues and doesn't want to burden you?

Still unpredictable here - Faithlet slept through for a week, even when she settled at 8pm! Then last night settled at 9 but woke at 4.30 this morning for nearly an hour! She was then sick on me and as I mopped it up she looked up and smiled and suddenly it all seems worthwhile <mushy>

Dysgu Fri 12-Jul-13 14:41:30

Evan is having a tough 24 hours (fingers crossed it is just 24 hours!) Was fine and happy yesterday then fell asleep with DP about 7pm after less than half his bottle. Seemed fine so we just figured he would wake in the night for a bottle to catch up.

Woke about 11pm so DP fed him. All fine, took quite a lot of bottle but not finished. Put him back in basket; was pulling legs up so DP thought there was more wind. Got him out of basket - set off screeching like we've never had before! Tears everywhere.

I brought him downstairs - lots of jiggling and singing to help cope with the screeching. Finally settled about 12.30 am - put him back in basket.

1.30am screeching again. ~This woke DD1. DP brought E downstairs whilst I went upstairs to settle DD1. She is easy to settle, done in 5 minutes.

2.15am got E back into basket - but he woke up straight away and screeching. This carried on, on and off, until 4am when I got him in basket after giving him Calpol at 3.30am. He then slept til 6.30 by which time DP had decided to stay home from work.

6.30am had bottle - seemed okay. I changed nappy - poo everywhere! Bed, me and E covered in it!

All day he has been hot and screechy. Poo in almost every nappy and very frequent. Drinking some milk, falling asleep, waking to screech. Have put him in disposable nappy so I can smother his bum in sudacrem as all the poo is making him sore (is not sitting in poo-y nappies, but the poo coming out seems to hurt!)

Have given him nurofen - he is 17 weeks so okay - he is now asleep on me but generally not a happy boy.

DP has kept DD2 busy today, took her out for lunch, now taken her to a party and will then collect DD1 from school. I dozed whilst holding E whilst he got girls ready this morning. He had a nap during the morning after I got E to sleep by walking him round the block so I could sort present for party with DD2.

It did cross my mind this morning when e was checking his diary to see if it was an easy day to work from home/take off that, if I was a single parent, I would have no option other than to just get on with looking after poorly boy and 'doesn't-sit-still' DD2 and felt very lucky to have DP and for him to be able to stay home.

Sorry for me-me-me post; am just sounding off. I am sure we have coped with worse than this... but it always just seems so hard at the time (and feeling awful if the screeching is going to carry on tonight as we are in a terraced house and I imagine the neighbours dread it too!)

ratbagcatbag Fri 12-Jul-13 15:29:08

Quick question - does anyone know how empress and sam are doing?

Trishstar Fri 12-Jul-13 15:37:09

Sorry Evan had a bad night, hope he's back to himself tonight.

h had a really restless night of arms and legs flailing constantly and waking himself up. Since hubby is away I was the living dead by this morning. hmm

Emma I did private message her on fb but she hasn't replied so far.hope they are all ok xx

catherine19 Fri 12-Jul-13 15:37:55

Oh dysgu that sounds pants! I no it sounds odd but is the poo normal? Any bits, blood change in colour or consistency? At least he's drinking so he doesn't get dehydrated?
Good luck!

Dysgu Fri 12-Jul-13 16:22:27

Poo is normal catherine just a lot more of it than usual. He has spent most of the day sleeping and is now managing a smile smile so I have taken him upstiars to chill with DP and I am having 1-1 time with DD1 doing homework grin

Hopefully tonight will be better.

photochick Fri 12-Jul-13 17:07:06

hope Evan is feeling better soon x its horrible when they cry and seem unhappy sad.

chuffed as LO is 12lbs today at 10 weeks - she has put on 4lbs smile.

Thanks for the feedback -daddy offered to do the early morning feed to give me a break and LO only went and dropped that feed! Still got more sleep though!

I was also wondering about Giddy but can't work out how to message from my phone?

AmberLav Sat 13-Jul-13 01:45:21

Dysgu and Trish - poor both of you! Hope tonight is better!

Trish little ones seem to know when daddy is away - the worse ever night of DS's life was a night when J was away! Thankfully the next day was mil's birthday, and I was already booked to go see them, so I turned up and went for a nap!

Giddypants Sat 13-Jul-13 10:25:15

Ooooo new thread just marking place

angeltattoo Sat 13-Jul-13 11:18:11

catherine thank you, yes we have found a house so just waiting now, we are in a one-bed flat with no garden, so can't wait to decorate a bedroom for Isobel, and have a garden.

photochick friends are funny aren't they, I have found that some you'd expect lots from give nothing, and others have been really great. I have a friend who should in theory be one of my best supports, who hasn't even met my 3 month old DD. and not because I haven't offered to met her at a place of her choosing sad. I have realised that I was making all the effort, so decided not to for a while and I'm still waiting for her to notice...

DH is working away again, My pram is broken and in for repair so I can't even go for a walk, and my friends are all 100 miles away. Stuck inside and alone on the hottest day of the year, will be grim and boring I expect. Baby is grumpy already as she woke herself up 10 minutes into her nap :-/

Enjoy the weather folks, and those with paddling pools please dip a toe in for me!!

catherine19 Sat 13-Jul-13 12:58:50

Ow Hun go sit on the front door step or stand outside holding lo for a bit, mite make u feel better x

angeltattoo Sat 13-Jul-13 16:11:37

We went for a walk in the shady woods, using the sling. Very hot still, but it got us both some fresh air. And she got some sleep!

Am still dreaming of that paddling pool though...grin

KeepTheFaithBaby Sat 13-Jul-13 18:09:07

(Hello, it's HadA/Faith).

Scorching here too! We'd get a paddling pool but I can't seem to get one. Argos are totally out of stock! My sister is away so we borrowed my nephew's. I bought a little swim suit for Faithlet. It said 3-6 months but fits already (she is 3 months tomorrow) so I think I better buy a bigger one for our holiday in Septembet!

Glad the walk cooled you down Angrl. Just think how much you'll appreciate your new home (we used to live in a flat!).

tattooedapril87 Sat 13-Jul-13 19:47:46

living in a baking hot flat here too... about to put it up for sale so see how that goes. hope it doesn't take too long. luckily have a balcony but its south facing so zero shade. going to try find a pool tomo and out it on there x

AmberLav Sat 13-Jul-13 20:12:29

I managed to reserve what seemed to be the last paddling pool in all the local Argos's on Thursday morning - used it over at my sister's today - DS had a great time in it with his two big cousins. However I did have the downside of cleaning poo out of a reusable swim nappy, and it was a big one!

Sorry to everyone who didn't manage to find a pool...!

tattooedapril87 Sat 13-Jul-13 21:43:32

99p shop here has blow up pools... tiny but so are the babes!

catherine19 Sun 14-Jul-13 07:32:23

This mite sound daft but, it is ok just to out it in a shady part of the garden or do I need some kind of cover for a paddling pool to stop lo getting burnt?

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 14-Jul-13 07:41:09

I put ours in the shade and put her in a uv swimsuit. Should be ok. Best thing is to put sun cream on when they're nude so you don't miss anywhere!

Not a bad night but Faithlet woke at 4, I think she was thirsty rather than hungry. She's currently snoozing on me smile

AmberLav Sun 14-Jul-13 07:44:29

I would be inclined to limit the amount of time lo was in the water, as you have to watch with water for reflection too. Even in a sun tent they say to limit the time to no more than 45 minutes...

But even babies can cope with some sun exposure as it helps make vitamin D, so a shady area will be fine for a while...

And remember that swim nappies are not waterproof, they are just designed to hold in poo! I got a bit damp yesterday when DS was nervous about going in the water and wanted to be held!

usernamegoeshere Sun 14-Jul-13 09:41:15

Marking place as keep dropping off, more into Facebook mostly as I love the pictures! Also not much time to post here since a certain baby only seems to nap for 2 mins at a time unless I take her out!!

I really hope naps improve again!

AmberLav Sun 14-Jul-13 10:14:42

User they will do in time! May not be quite as quickly as you are hoping, but they will do!

angeltattoo Sun 14-Jul-13 10:54:02

nic we've had our flat on since i was about 6 weeks pg, so it took a while, but things are definitely pickung up so it might not take long. You're in London aren't you? I think the market is moving pretty quickly there.

faith LO has taken to wanting a 4am drink here too! No sleep through here in recent nights!

I got a jumperoo on ebay yesterday, off to the Isle of Dogs later to collect it, but DH has dropped the bombshell his car has no air conditioning! D'oh! He must have upset the person at work who dishes out the cars, ha ha. On my due date he came home in a one-seater go kart car with no windows, in the pouring rain. No room for a wife or hospital bag, and definitely not a maxicosi! ;-)

birdbrain21 Sun 14-Jul-13 13:35:12

marking on new thread got loads to catch up on as been so busy with moving not had time to check online sad

baby bird loved the rotavirus vaccine, she was sucking on the syringe like it was a bottle and licking her lips after! The second set of jabs was definitely better then the first so hopefully third lot will be absolutely fine.
She really hates the heat been really fussy the last few days, not happy to play by herself and not feeding properly anyone else found this?

She turned 3 months old last week, how funny the first 12 weeks of pregnancy took ages but the first 12 weeks after they've been born absolutely flies!!! grin

birdbrain21 Sun 14-Jul-13 13:36:56

Those of you ebf when you express and give a bottle how many ounces are you giving?not sure if I'm giving enough, she always tries to carry on sucking the empty bottle but is happy with a dummy and doesn't cry so don't know if she's still hungry or just wants to suck?!

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 14-Jul-13 13:49:53

Hi bird! Faithlet has been eating little and often most of the time. However she had a good couple of hours asleep and fed for a long time when she woke this morning.

Expressing wise I usually express about 3-4oz. It varies but she usually takes about 2.5-3oz. If she's still sucking at the end of the bottle I'd think she might want a bit more! We always finish giving Faithlet the boob anyway.

catherine19 Sun 14-Jul-13 19:47:14

My lo didn't get anything orally at his 2nd set of jabs just 2 injections, shud I b worried
Ta fir e paddling pool advice we went to mil so didn't use anyway!

catherine19 Sun 14-Jul-13 19:57:55

Just read on NHS site that he can hav the rotavirus vaccine so will contact GPS in the morning!

LikeCandy Sun 14-Jul-13 22:08:34

I've just googled rotavirus vaccine and we've missed the cut off for having it by 1 week! I wonder why we weren't offered at 12w jabs?

We've got 16w vaccines tomorrow - fingers crossed she finds them nice and easy!

Has anyone started supplementing their LO with vitamins yet? Our HV has been pushing them since 1m! Apparently vit D shortage is causing ricketts?
I bought some last week but have no idea how I'm meant to give them to her, they say to dilute but she doesn't take a bottle!

Dysgu Sun 14-Jul-13 23:32:07

Candy we give E Dalavit (and iron) which is prescribed due to him coming so early. All my kids have had the same stuff for the same reason. I did read something somewhere recently about how kids should hae vitamins until they are 5... although I am sure we stopped well before then with all of ours.

Every so often now we will buy gummy bear or Peppa Pig vitamins for the DDs but we never really keep them going.

DP and I do not take vitamins.

We all seem pretty healthy, rarely get colds and the DDs are excelling in pre-school/school (for what that is worth at the ages of 4 and 6)!

Wellkids baby vitamins are used by friends of ours...

Dysgu Sun 14-Jul-13 23:33:45

Oh and we either put E's vitamin and iron in a bottle or else just syringe them into his mouth. The vitamins smell awful but he never minds having them.

Can buy syringes from chemist or get some from nurse when you have jabs. Our nurse offers them in case baby needs calpol following jabs - i always take a couple as they are useful for medicines.

EssexWelsh Sun 14-Jul-13 23:39:02

I asked about rotovirus at 2nd jabs and nurse said he'll never have it as missed birth date cut off! Need to pursue if can request it but nurse acted like it was not an option!

AmberLav Mon 15-Jul-13 01:30:28

I remember reading last year that the rotavirus vaccine would be offered to all babies born after September 2013, so I wasn't expecting E to be eligible, but I think she might be now, as she will be 12 weeks at her next jabs this coming Friday (there's a poster in the GP's waiting room about them), but I'll wait and see...

AmberLav Mon 15-Jul-13 01:33:28

On vitamins, I used a brand that Sainsbury's stocked (possibly wellkids?) and that didn't need diluting, and came with a tiny syringe... Not bought any this time round, as I can get vitamin D into her system by small daily sun exposure (10 mins is enough), particularly at the moment!

AmberLav Mon 15-Jul-13 01:38:55

Rotavirus researched! The cut off birthdate is 1 May 2013, but it looks like they can have the first dose at up to 15 weeks, and the second dose up to 24 weeks, so that explains the discrepancies with some April babies getting it and some not, as it's only been available since 1 July. I will ask for it on Friday, and see what happens...

catherine19 Mon 15-Jul-13 08:20:40

The cut off was 1st may but then apparently it brought forward, there didn't b a post code lottery!

LikeCandy Mon 15-Jul-13 20:06:56

Thanks all
dysgu I bought dalivit on the recommendation of the pharmacist, so many types to choose from!
Need to get one of those crazy medicine spoons...

Trishstar Tue 16-Jul-13 06:48:17

When are vitamins recommended from? x

goingbananas30 Tue 16-Jul-13 10:44:37

Hello everyone,smile

I'm new on this thread... I need help fast. DS is 3months and won't take formula. He totally hates the taste of it. Who has any idea of how I can get it to start taking formula?

Thank you.

Trishstar Tue 16-Jul-13 10:58:01

Welcome bananas!!!

Has he always had formula or are you trying to swap him over from breast milk? Xx

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 16-Jul-13 11:31:55

Hi bananas. Welcome! Which fornula(s) have you tried?

goingbananas30 Tue 16-Jul-13 13:41:46

Hi Trishstar smile,

He has always had breastmilk, I just want to partially swap him to formula. Partially meaning just morning and night.

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 16-Jul-13 14:05:47

bananas have you given DS expressed milk in a bottle? Is it possible it's the bottle rather than the formula? Which bottles have you tried?

Trishstar Tue 16-Jul-13 14:35:06

As faith says it could be the bottle/teat? What are you using? We use NUK as its hospital used/recommended where i am. my DS doesnt mind switching between breast and bottle.

It could be the formula also.

Try mixing 50/50 formula/EBM if it isn't the bottle

goingbananas30 Tue 16-Jul-13 15:28:53

@keepthefaith, I have given him breastmilk with d bottle so I'm almost sure its not the bottle.[Sad]

@Trishstar, I use tommee tippee.

The funny thing is he takes it from his nanny during the day. He just won't take from me b4 bed.... I also tried changing bottle, but he won't take from any with me. [Shock]

Trishstar Tue 16-Jul-13 16:03:36

Maybe try mixing the BM with the formula xx

catherine19 Tue 16-Jul-13 16:32:02

He prob nos it u and ure with holding the good stuff (in his fab little mind) could someone else give the bottle? Apparently there is little diff in taste to babies it's more the consistany, try u giving a bottle of emb to see if it is the formula

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 16-Jul-13 16:40:50

I agree with both of the above. Imagine he's working with basic senses- he's used to BM then you offer him a bottle, he smells your milk but what's in the bottle tastes different! It might help to mix them but its worth seeing if he'll take it from someone else.

EssexWelsh Tue 16-Jul-13 20:39:36

So apparently the Royal baby is on the way, a police officer friend has been despatched near the hospital in anticipation-eek, exciting!

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 16-Jul-13 20:42:34

I wonder if she'll manage the hypnobirthing? I'd have studied more about that if I'd known I was having such a rapid delivery. Next time eh?!

num3onway Tue 16-Jul-13 21:07:39

Hello all!
Time sure is flying!
Dd is 15 weeks, sleeps 10ish hours at night, laughs and can almost roll all the way over
Have other people introduced a sippee cup yet? I just bought one today and plan to introduce with water in it tomorrow.
My pet peev is older babies 18 months plus walking round with bottles especially those with juice. I get urges to snatch and bin them.
Both of older dcs were bottle free on first birthday. Literally the night before they turned one I binned every bottle. This possibly comes from my working with children and seeing countless children even as old as four sucking on bottles. Yuck.
Rant over!

tattooedapril87 Tue 16-Jul-13 22:22:19

agreed num3. where i love i see alot of toddlers with coke in their bottles... argh

tattooedapril87 Tue 16-Jul-13 22:23:27

LIVE no love in that scenario at all!

Trishstar Tue 16-Jul-13 22:49:55

Agree about the bottles too! And dummies! I will take them both off H by his first birthday!

Tried him with a sippy cup! He wasn't sure! Will keep trying it tho!

Teapig Tue 16-Jul-13 23:10:54

When babies ditch bottles at a year do they then move over to the sippee cup. If I can't crack T's refusal of the bottle I think I may have to wean her straight to the sippee cup.

welcome bananas. As others have said it might be that your ds can smell your milk and refuses the bottle. Can anyone else try feeding him for you?

num I can't believe how quickly the time goes either. Yay to the rolling. T is now rolling onto her left side whenever she's on her playmat, she's yet to the right or all the way over but I guess it won't be long.

Well this is the first night we've put T upstairs for the evening instead her being downstairs with us. It's taken me 12 weeks to feel comfortable with it but now it feels like a big milestone.

Hope everyone has a good night's sleep, it's just to hot to sleep here.

AmberLav Wed 17-Jul-13 02:48:13

Welcome bananas! Some additional advice on introducing formula, not that I think these are actually your problem (think he's smelling your milk too much most likely). Temperature can be an issue (bm is nicely warm) and also some babies prefer ready made formula to the powder ( think it's to do with consistency.

Num we phased out the bottle nearer the 18 month mark - DS liked it for morning and evening milk at home (despite giving it up at nursery much earlier) but he had water from a dippy cup, and was even very good with a normal cup long before his first birthday! I figure that can be played by ear, as long as the child is at least able to use a cup, and isn't getting juice in a bottle (also my pet hate along with dummies!).

Poor Kate! The whole world watching, and a heat wave to cope with! I just hope she's found MN and preferably a group forum, so she gets proper advice, especially on breastfeeding!

AmberLav Wed 17-Jul-13 02:50:39

Oh and well done Teapig! We didn't do that with DS till 5 months, but started at 2 months with E. Can make a big difference to your lives!

karinmaria Wed 17-Jul-13 05:05:27

Morning all - just found you again! Must say I tend to use the FB page more and I love seeing all the photos.

God I am so OVER this weather. I normally love the heat but baby has been waking twice in the night again (after a good three weeks of sleeping 8-6) and its crap. I'm knackered and hot and sweaty to boot as I'm overweight following pregnancy.

On the up side baby has been happily babbling away in the last few days - he's started having these mini monologues! He'll be on his playmat and just be cooing away to himself. If I try to join in he stops, looks a bit annoyed and then starts up again when I pretend to look away!

Hope you're all doing well.

KeepTheFaithBaby Wed 17-Jul-13 08:03:11

Karin same here. Every time I put DD in the Moses basket she fussed and cried so I just kept her in bed and fed her when she stirred. Lost count of how many times she fed but it was at least 4!

I think bottles are only for milk and water. I agree, juice/coke (!) in bottles isn't good. tea it might be worth trying a doidy cup?

He last two nights Faithlet has fallen asleep after her bottle and we've put her down in the Moses basket. First night she stirred after 45 minutes, last night the phone woke her confused but I'm hoping at some point it'll last longer! Them I'll have the confidence to go out in the evening! It's easier for us to put her down in the bedroom though because we're in a bungalow.

Mama1980 Wed 17-Jul-13 10:19:28

Morning all sorry I just can't keep up with the thread anymore but wanted to share that Alex rolled over yesterday!!!!!!gringringringrin And now is twisting and rolling everywhere like a crazy baby smile
He has also started on some gentle purees on the advice of the preemie nutritionist, he loves apple and hates everything else at the moment grin but is much more contented now he has some food in his belly, still breast feeding every two hours though but I'm not sure how much of that is the heat.
He has also caught up on all his vaccinations too which he didn't even cry at I'm guessing after all the cannula s and tubes a injection is a piece of cake, it does make me wonder how much he remembers.
He seems to love being out all the time, he gets bored very easily, it's like toy central in here! Luckily He is loving the paddling pool he and ds1 have been in it constantly.
I hope everyone is doing well, try not to melt in the heat grin x

Trishstar Wed 17-Jul-13 11:06:13

Bec great to hear how amazingly Alex is doing!!! How are you too? xx

Would be nice to see a pic of him on the Facebook group when you get chance!

catherine19 Wed 17-Jul-13 14:14:25

Wow busy morning on here! I agree with the yak of prolonged bottle use. I hav got a sippy cup to try with water as ds just won't take it! I've tried his norm bottle, diff bottles, tsp, syringe and a cup! He'll take a little when I try something new but next time he just spits it out, he's a stubborn little monkey!
Apparently children who hav been around medical machines etc when babies are calmer in hospitals I can't remember the rest of the study or the names but it suggests there is some for of memory but they don't know it, they suggest this dan b a positive thing as if the do ever need to go in (fingers crossed not!) they hav lower levels of anxiety

catherine19 Wed 17-Jul-13 20:46:44

I jinx it! Update on rotavirus immunisation, ran my GPS and asked for it said I'd seen it on NHS it'd he cud hav it. The nurse had t ring public healt who had to check but yes he cud hav it! Iwudnt norm b bothered but I come int contact with it work so I'm really worried ill bring bugs home to test his brand new immune system!

Mama1980 Thu 18-Jul-13 13:53:53

Trish, pics up on fb now smile I'm ok thanks much the same but I've managed to put on a bit of weight. I think I've pretty much adapted now I use crutches a lot when round the house and the wheelchair when out but I braved the coast on my crutches the other day, and managed ok. My consultant has said they will need to operate again at some point on my hips, scar tissue is forming and will eventually move the pins and screws they put in but not for a while hopefully. I'm just enjoying being at home with my baby s smile

Dysgu Thu 18-Jul-13 22:44:51

Just seen the pictures on fb Mama and A is looking absolutely gorgeous smile and looks so healthy. I keep wanting to say he is looking 'bonnie' IYKWIM so 'normal'. He doesn't have the look of a preemie about him, certainly not a micro preemie. He seems to look very much like the other 'April' babies, regardless of when they arrived.

It sounds like you still have quite a long way to go and more operations but you certainly sound like nothing can beat you. You just seem to keep going and deal with whatever is thrown at you. I think of you often and thin you are awesome grin

Evan is also very keen to sit up. He can manage for a second or so before toppling sideways. He doesn't seem too bothered about trying to roll and I think he prefers being upright. He is increasingly interested in his toys in the past couple of days and loves it when he kicks the cat on his playmat just right hmm so that it plays him a tune.

AmberLav Fri 19-Jul-13 02:36:12

Too hot! Ivegot a little hot water bottle on me now - really jooing she's asleep so I can put her down! 12 week jabs later today - hooe E is less grumbly this time!

catherine19 Fri 19-Jul-13 10:16:03

I'm well over the sun now!

KeepTheFaithBaby Fri 19-Jul-13 10:26:52

I don't mind the sun it's just so hard to keep babies cool! I reckon I got the last paddling pool in the area yesterday! Argos have totally sold out but I got one (the only one I could see) from Tesco direct. We have my friend and her DD (who is about 5 months) coming to visit so I've blown it up, filled it and put it in the sun so hopefully it'll feel warm for the babies to splash in later.

birdbrain21 Fri 19-Jul-13 15:56:29

I definitely think it's way to hot for adults and babies!I've also turned into a paranoid mother who wakes up half a dozen times in the night to make sure the baby isn't too hot!!!

She's really starting to grow up. When she's on her back she likes rolling onto her side and back and yesterday when I gave her tummy time she started moving forward across her mat by humping her bottom up and down like a caterpillar grin it was hilarious she actually got really far and was making the funniest growling noises whilst she did it! I love having a baby around she's full time entertainment when she's awake much better then day time TV wink

catherine19 Fri 19-Jul-13 20:34:13

Yeah u don't need a tv when u hav a baby! I've found that sometimes a groups of adults can sit in a room and just watch! Although my lo does like to watch the tv! I don't encourage t but he will turn himself o watch it if its on, oops

AmberLav Sat 20-Jul-13 22:13:19

Update on the norovirus jab; I was able to get E the first dose of the noroirus jab at the 12 week jabs, but I had to ask, as there is no catch up campaign, and this dose is normally given at the 8 week jabs...

I plan to remind the nurse to give the second dose, as againnit won't be part of the normal routine atvyhe 4 month jabs... she'd only given 2 doses so far, so all a bit new... so far no side effects, other than a bit windy!

Is anyone else's little one sucking their thumb?! Ds2 is properly sucking his thumb whilst asleep and if I remove his hand from near his mouth he just finds it again. Stupidly I forgot to put on a sleep suit with the fold over mittens too. All I can hear is him sucking away! blush Ds1 didn't do this at all so not sure whether to worry or not?!

AmberLav Sun 21-Jul-13 03:42:03

Cheese no but there's a discussion on the merits of thumb sucking over on fb... E just sticks her whole hand in just now!

The whole sucking thing they are doing now is a developmental thing, so any thumb sucking may only be temporary...

Trishstar Sun 21-Jul-13 08:18:35

Hey everyone x Hunter had his last bottle at 9.45pm last night, then slept from 10.30pm til 8am! Hope this continues!!

LikeCandy Sun 21-Jul-13 14:03:01

Hi all - I am keeping up with you - just finding FB easier to post on!

cheese I have a champion fist slurper here! She occasionally finds just her thumb, and sometimes sucks on whatever material is at hand. I'm not worrying about it!

trish what a little star! I bet you feel great for it!

bird BabyCandy is also a wriggler, she's more interested in forwards / sideways than she is in rolling over. When I have her TT on my belly/chest she really digs her feet in and can propel herself quite well!

Having a super grumpy week here - definitely tiredness, she has too much to be doing to want to sleep!

catherine19 Sun 21-Jul-13 16:27:50

We've been grumpy here as well, I think it mite be the start of teething, he's been a super drooler for weeks and his gums are getting whiter. Can see any tips yet. He also rubs his gums with his has little hand as well!

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 21-Jul-13 16:52:42

We have a dribbly fist chewer here. No obvious signs of teeth but doubt it'll be long.

My not so tiny baby is basically refusing to sleep in her Moses basket. She goes in when fast asleep but if she stirs in the night she has a strop when I put her back in so we end up co-sleeping. Cue a trip to town this morning for DH to buy a mattress for the cot so she can sleep in it tonihht! It fits in our room firtinately. She's only 3 months, in not ready to put her in her own room yet! She must be long, she's in my nephew's moses basket and he didn't outgrow it too he was 5 1/2 months!

Trishstar Sun 21-Jul-13 18:04:15

Think we will have to drop to 4 bottles if he carries on sleeping that long!!

kellestar Sun 21-Jul-13 21:54:09

Trish that is fab! We haven't had any recurrences of sleeping more than 3-4 hours. Ah well, he will get there one day (I hope).

Mastitis is going, a combo of oversupply with extra feeds in this hot weather, bad latch (still) and the heat. I can't believe the faff of taking these pills though, 1 hour before food and not being able to take another until 2 hours after eating. I am starving, I normally graze on fruit during the day and really been missing it.

Went to a NNS and picked up
Lots of great items for W and B. Some beautiful dresses from designers at debenhams for DD for £1 each, she spent the afternoon trying them on and having a dance about smile

We've mostly been avoiding the sun, it really is intense, W just comes out in a heat rash so it isn't worth it. We are waiting to hear how a friends baby is doing after collapsing and being rushed off in an ambulance sad

catherine19 Mon 22-Jul-13 08:25:26

Oh dear good luck to ure friends lo!

AmberLav Mon 22-Jul-13 09:28:30

Kelle - any news yet on your friend's little one? Hope it is good news when it arrives...

On a more frivolous topic, now the baby media storm starts! I can't think of many things worse than giving birth with the whole country on tenterhooks!

num3onway Mon 22-Jul-13 10:10:10

Has anyone decided on any of the big stuff Los are coming up to needing? High chairs walkers etc?
I have opted not to get a walker as there isn't lots of space in our house for a lo to move about in one. I've ordered a bright starts entertainer instead basically a wheel-less walker!

KeepTheFaithBaby Mon 22-Jul-13 10:27:42

My sister is anti-walkers because it encourages tip toe walking (she's a children's Physio). I'm anti them because they bash the skirting boards! We had borrowed a high chair but the lender needs it back as she's just found out she's pregnant! That one is a seat that attaches to a dining chair,I think we'll get a similar one.

Amber I agree! Only my sister was told when I went into labour! Imagine everyone with access to modern technology knowing.

Well Faithlet seems to be changing patterns.....she used to settle between 8 & 10 and sleep til 4-6. Now she's waking at 11 and 5! Feeding more in the afternoon so I think it's a growth spurt. She slept ok in her cot (outgrown Moses basket at 3 months). My tiny, low birth baby is no more! smile

ThursdayLast Mon 22-Jul-13 10:36:10

Hello,
Long time lurker and new to this. My DS born early April so here I am!
Got a v chatty baby today, will make the most of it because bedtimes are a nightmare.
Bit of rolling, occasional giggles- going to weigh him later but reckon he's got to be nearing 20 lbs already, everything ends up in his gob.

Anyways, just wanted to join in!

kellestar Mon 22-Jul-13 13:38:41

Friends baby is recovering from heat stroke, on IV fluids. Hopefully home tomorrow.

We have a graco play station, like the Jumperoo/walker, which DD loved. I don't like walkers, DD cruised around our corner sofa for confidence.

We had a high chair, chicco with height adjustment. Was handy when DD wasn't able to sit well. Now she has a booster on a dining chair. Will see how well Wilf sits as to wether we get the high chair out of the attic.

catherine19 Mon 22-Jul-13 14:50:54

Thursday, yeah make the most of the best times! I'm not going for a walker because of the mixed views and for the sake of the skirting boards etc! We do hav a jumperoo, I think that prob isn't fab for for positioning but at least that is just in jumping. Mil bought us a high chair when I wa pregnant! I was fuming as we are. But skint any everything else had been real bargains and second hand, if she had le me hav my pick I cud hav got a decent high chair and loads more!
I hav been looking at safety gates though, I no it's early but u can get better bargains when got in advance and I want 3! Doesn't anyone no if the pressure fit o se are as good as the drill in ones? Also what so good about th expensive ones? I can't believe the price diff!

catherine19 Mon 22-Jul-13 14:51:43

Kell pleased ure friends baby is doing well, it's even a nightmare intros heat!

Trishstar Mon 22-Jul-13 14:57:48

Welcome Thursday! If you go back to the start of the thread we also have a Facebook group!! 20lbs! Wow!

catherine19 Mon 22-Jul-13 15:10:48

My 'lo' was 18lb8oz when last weighed at 13wks. It's nice the hear he's not the only chunky monkey, particularly as nearly every one tells be how big he is!

ThursdayLast Mon 22-Jul-13 17:52:57

It's ok, turns out I was accidentally exaggerating...he is in fact only 17lb 1oz.

Although I say only, he is only 3 and a half months old!

Blimey catherine19 I can only imagine how done in your back is and how toned your arms are, no one needs an 'arm day' when your little one ain't so little!

We haven't bought any of the big things mentioned in this thread yet, so will be watching eagle eyed for recommendations. Will also go have a look on fb and see if I can find you all...

catherine19 Mon 22-Jul-13 18:13:56

I'm actually shocked my arms aren't looking toned! Gutted!
The feel like a ton when their wiggling though!

Trishstar Mon 22-Jul-13 22:08:44

I'm getting this high chair in whatever colour is cheapest!

Gracco Contempo

Folds so small and know a few people that have it and love it grin

When is best to get a high chair?

birdbrain21 Tue 23-Jul-13 01:12:35

wow my lo isn;t even 11lb yet at 14 weeks, I can't imagine her being nearly 20, she hurts my back enough as it is!!!!

Today was way way way too hot!!!!!Normally during the day she sleeps about 4 hours broken up into 3 sleeps, today she slept 20 mins and yelled everytime she was put down but I was too hot to hold her!!!! Any tips for staying calm when babies start yelling like that, sometimes I get really cross with her and just leave her in a room by herself for a few mins yelling but then I just feel guilty after that it upset her even more hmm

Anyway must go to sleep for a bit and hope this thunder doesn't wake her up!!!!!

birdbrain21 Tue 23-Jul-13 01:13:31

oh yeah and thursday welcome, it's nice when lurkers feel confident enough to join in wink

AmberLav Tue 23-Jul-13 06:33:17

The thunder woke me up, right in the middle of my potential hour an a half sleep, as E decided to feed st 12 and 2! But then she thankfully lasted till now, so not too bad a night in the end! It was an awesome storm though - one crack of lightning must have been almost on top of us, gave an almighty crash of thunder! Thankfully both kids slept through it!

Have - I didn't buy a high chair for DS till he was 6 months, as babies are a bit floppy before then...

catherine19 Tue 23-Jul-13 12:07:28

Bird it's so tuff when they hav constant cries! U do the right thing leaving her in a safe place while u take a breath. I find putting my lo in his pram and either just rocking him in the house or going out for a walk usually helps us.
Gosh my ds was 10lb at birth! Must b lovely to hav a tiny tiny bundle! No one believes me when I tell them how old ds is x

ThursdayLast Tue 23-Jul-13 13:14:25

Thank you bird. I haven't really ever found a way to calm DS down from those kinds of shouts. Just holding him and bouncing him til the terrors pass, but it mostly seems like he wears himself out. I'm lucky in that my DP works from home, so he often finds a red faced gremlin thrust into his arms while I pace it out!

We are celebrating a mini milestone this lunchtime- DS managed his whole baby massage, tummy time and all, this morning. No grouchiness or tears (from either of us!) for the first time, what a treat!

Only one baby bigger at massage, said baby is 2 months older than DS. Mental.

itsaruddygame Tue 23-Jul-13 14:42:06

Catherine we have 3 baby gates in already for dog segregation purposes! We have 2 mothercare gates and a lindam one. I prefer the lindam one as it is slightly more sturdy and the handle is easier with one hand. Having said that there is nothing wrong with the mothercare ones either. They are all pressure ones and are pretty secure.

High chair wise we went for the stokke trip trap - it has a newborn attachment so we use it already. It also turns into a childs chair and an adult can perch on it as well so even though it is pricey we thought it was worth it for several years worth of use.

LikeCandy Tue 23-Jul-13 17:32:31

Here you go catherine Lindam safety gate for 13.49!

We'll be getting the Ikea Antilop high chair - I think it's £13 but it has fantastic reviews, single piece, easy to clean (breaks down so it can be put in dishwasher!) I was looking at the TrippTrapp but it won't work for us as I need a tray, baby won't be eating at a table!

catherine19 Tue 23-Jul-13 20:21:48

Ooh brill ta. It's tricky picking what to economise on!

catherine19 Tue 23-Jul-13 20:29:30

Ordered one! I no it's early but better to hav it in plus trying to buy stuff before my mat pay vanishes! Mixed reviews so just ordered the 1

birdbrain21 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:29:24

Thankfully today was a bit cooler and baby bird was much better behaved, even had our first proper giggle this morning!!!grin I woke up DH to hear it, he wasn't impressed but it was already 8:30am and I was so excited.

Had her weighed at HV today at 14 weeks she's 10lb 12oz there was a 8 week old baby there who weighed the same!!!!

AmberLav Wed 24-Jul-13 01:09:31

Another big baby here - E was 13lbs 3ozs at 11 weeks, but she was 10lbs 3ozs at birth!

I was at the doctors today, and could hear the nurses bring amazed at how Kate had managed to hide a 8 pounder in her little bump! Even 10 minutes before E was born, her midwife was confidently predicting there was no way that she was as big as her brother (9lbs 12ozs)! Ah, the memories!

I do think thst every new parent deserves an applauding crowd as they leave the hospital!

Giddypants Wed 24-Jul-13 09:03:46

How's people doing for naps? I put Ds2 down about half an hour ago, and he's already fussing and waking up! He sleeps ok over night but naps are just horrendous he's still tired but just won't stay asleep!

KeepTheFaithBaby Wed 24-Jul-13 10:56:02

Faithlet never napped in her Moses basket (maybe 3 times for 10-15 minutes!). Not tried her in the cot to be fair. She naps in the pram/car seat/swinging chair/on me. Stays asleep the longest in the chair actually! Maybe because of the motion.

ThursdayLast Wed 24-Jul-13 12:55:18

Nap times are entirely sporadic in this house, but never usually last longer than 45 mins. The exception to this is when I'm tired too and we bed down together after a feed, usually by the afternoon when I don't have the fight in me to get him into his cot! Yesterday I reckon he did two lots of 45 mins next to me, and stayed asleep when I got up.

He's just woken from a nap in his cot, but when I peeped he's sucking his thumb, so I'm doing a test session to see if he can settle himself back down...hahahahaha hahahahaha talk about optimistic!

ThursdayLast Wed 24-Jul-13 13:24:35

Ermehgawd, it's a fricking miracle!

catherine19 Wed 24-Jul-13 13:54:28

Ds and as and when. I wish we had a routine with it but he sleeps on a night so I can't complain!

catherine19 Thu 25-Jul-13 15:25:09

Oh nice he's been asleep for over 2hrs! Got ironing done, dishes, had lunch (used 2 hands to eat and no songs) and put away washing that has been there since just after he was born!

Teapig Thu 25-Jul-13 22:52:07

I'm very jealous catherine and thursday that your LOs are sleeping pretty well. T seems to have forgotten how to sleep (day or night) unless I feed her into a stupor. I blame the heat, at least I hope that's it and this is temporary.

Re high chairs we're also going for the Ikea £13 job, my sister had one and it was brilliant.

The transition from the moses basket to the cot is not going well. I've tried putting the moses basket in the cot but T only sleeps for a very short time, how does she know? hmm She only seems to like sleeping in her basket if it's on the floor. Bugger, the little monkey has only been asleep an hour and she's just woken up again. It's going to be a long night...

AmberLav Fri 26-Jul-13 00:45:19

Teapig - I'm getting a trifle concerned by how often I am feeding to sleep, day and night! I am hoping that the rule that it's impossible to spoil them up to 6 months still applies! DS changed hugely between 3 and 6 months, but he was generally easier to get to sleep during the day... Oh well, at least I'll know in a couple of months!

I should know whether it's just a heat thing soon, as I'm heading up to Scotland at the weekend, to show E off to my family!

Trishstar Fri 26-Jul-13 06:59:38

Does the ikea high chair fold up? We will need something space saving when not being used hence why I wanted the Gracco Contempo x

KeepTheFaithBaby Fri 26-Jul-13 07:26:01

Amber I try to avoid feeding to sleep in the day too much but it's still my go to at night! Sleep training can come later if needs be.

I think we'll get a high chair that attaches to a dining chair. It worked well for my nephew.

itsaruddygame Fri 26-Jul-13 09:38:41

I still have to feed to sleep at night but he will self settle in the day. No daytime nap routine - different times everyday at the moment and a few rough nights lately - it is slightly cooler here than it has been so I am wondering if its a growth spurt or the dreaded 4 month sleep regression!

I have had one really good night this week though where he slept for 7 hours - I was looking forward to another one but alas he woke up every 2 hours and fed for eaons last night!!!

ThursdayLast Fri 26-Jul-13 15:48:06

teapig, the heat REALLY messed up DS sleeping, partly because his nursery was marginally cooler so we had together him to sleep in there rather than in our room. He seems to have settled back down a bit now.

We also had a BBQ with loads of people round, and me and DP may have got a bit, ahem, tipsy. Any routine went out of the window that evening and contributed to the hell up I reckon. ALSO, I think he had a mini growth spurt, coz a couple of times when he finished the bottle with his dad he WOULD NOT be consoled by anything other than the boob. But who knows? It's all a guessing game in this house!

Anyway, rather than waffling on I was hoping to reassure you that for us it seems to have been a phase, and hasn't upset his essential sleeping habits- still a fricking nightmare to get to sleep at bedtime &#128522;

num3onway Fri 26-Jul-13 20:23:33

Dd is only 13lb 14 at 16 weeks so not that big!

She sleeps in her pram during the day usually only for half hour cat naps although has had the odd 2 hour one in the past couple of weeks. Then in cot at night for around ten hours straight.

I am going for the cheapest folding high chair I can find as long as its green to match kitchen lol

catherine19 Sat 27-Jul-13 08:27:53

I find when ds is fighting sleep the pram is handy an I can rocking him till he's asleep then leave him in there!
I'm trying to get us both into the habit of his napping I his cot though so I can use the monitor and be more free to do things but its a but hit and miss! He's asleep in his swing at the mo!

BonaDea Sun 28-Jul-13 20:30:42

Trish - the ikea chair doesn't fold. The legs come off v easily but the actual chair part doesn't collapse or anything. I've got the ikea one and also found the inflatable insert useful as DS is already sitting in it at some meals although he's only 18 weeks and not ready for solids (obv)

Teapig Mon 29-Jul-13 08:57:58

Thanks thursday, it's good to know I'm not alone. I hope things settle back into a routine for you quickly.

T went back to a 1am and a 4am wake up last night which feels much better.

birdbrain21 Mon 29-Jul-13 21:46:47

Went out today just me a DH and left baby bird with my in-laws, it was really hard to go out and leave her but once we got into town we had a really good time. It was so good for us to focus on ourselves for a bit and when we got home I had so much more patience to settle her to bed tonight smile.

H used to only wake once a night now does twice. 4 months Saturday past, no idea why gone backwards. How is everyone else doing?

num3onway Mon 29-Jul-13 23:29:22

Dd usually sleeps around 10 hours straight has done since about 12 wk but she is ff which might make a difference I think

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 30-Jul-13 06:08:43

Have it could be 4 month sleep regression?

bird we are looking to improve on settling Faithlet at night - currently she feeds to sleep and it can be late before she settles - so that we can leave her to go out for dinner. We're aiming for 16th August!

num3onway Tue 30-Jul-13 06:52:25

I never realised how lucky I was!

Dd was asleep by 8 last night and woke at 6.30. Don't hate me!!!

My mission to today is to check out aldi, work out if its worth the inconvenience of not being delivered since I do not drive!

Hopefully the weather will be dry

Also need to clean my kitchen boo hoo

Are any babies sitting yet?

My older two sat alone about five months

Trishstar Tue 30-Jul-13 07:42:35

Thanks bona x

BonaDea Tue 30-Jul-13 09:10:50

Woo hoo for the cooler weather. DS slept from 7 to 6.45 (with dream feed at 10.00). He was getting closer to it before the heat wave but it then went right out of the window!!

To whoever asked: nope, DS nowhere near sitting up yet I don't think. He's quite happy in his bumbo but don't think he has the stability on his own. He's 19 weeks.

catherine19 Tue 30-Jul-13 12:43:48

I can't believe how quickly the are growing! Ds sits with minimal support but sometimes I think it's cos he balances on his belly! Hv was talking about weaning yesterday! She obviously said t leave it till as close to 6 mth as pos but that he mite need it before cos of his size, I thought that was a myth!
Num I can recommend the aldi meat balls and apparently the nappies are really good but I've not tried them.
And yes I also say yay for the change in weather x

Keep When does it go back to progress then? grin

Has everyone's LOs rolled over yet?

I have to watch H as she's always rolling over. I had to get a cover thing for her cot as she rolls over and lays herself sideways so her head is near the bars so was worried she'd smack her head.

I think she gets frustrated though as sometimes she can't roll all the way back, poor thing.

I am glad of the cooler weather but apparently next week it's going to get hot again. I think I may cry if it does, because poor H just really doesn't deal well with the heat. It makes her throw up a lot more, makes her a bit more irritable and she sweats a lot, so we have to have the fan on all day and night and either have her in a nappy or a vest all day/night.

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 30-Jul-13 19:15:56

Have I'm no expert at all! I found this which says it should be over within a few weeks!

Faithlet is currently on the floor trying to roll over now! She's done it a few times but still trying to master it.

I experienced a triple miracle tonight. I 1. Went for a run! 2. Came home to a sleeping baby (DH gave her a bottle and she dosed off) 3. It rained 5 minute after I got in! smile

Teapig Tue 30-Jul-13 20:45:21

num I don't drive either so we get our shopping delivered but I do swing into Aldi whenever I'm passing and pick up their nappies, they're the best I've tried.

have, where do you get the cot cover thing? We have a bumper but it's very thin, the breathable kind, and I don't think it will give any protection. T is a roller too and I can see a bump on the head waiting to happen when she rolls close to the bars.

faith, we need to get our evenings back too, bed time is 7.30pm but she sometimes doesn't settle until 9.30-10pm unless asleep on me. I'm with you on settling sooner by 16th August, that's my birthday and I'm dreaming of a meal out that I eat with two hands without gobbling it up in 30 seconds. Good luck comrade wink

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 30-Jul-13 22:20:03

Well....only started the No-cry solution approach tonight but I think it's going to work! It depends on the baby but our issue is feeding for hours in the evening and not settling in the cot. Tonight it was still late to settle but she went down sleepy on the third attempt and settled! It's a miracle! smile

Tea my birthday is 17th so dinner on the 16th is for us to celebrate just the two of us!

birdbrain21 Wed 31-Jul-13 12:48:33

faith I also used to feed to sleep in the evening. Recently I started giving her bigger feeds during the day (either letting her stay on the breast for longer or expressing more) and now she settles better in the evening. Last night I fed her, she fell asleep and then woke up after 10 mins thinking it was time to play and didn't go to bed till we did. Hope she doesn't make a habit of it, I love her to bits but I do like having a bit of time in the evening...

birdbrain21 Wed 31-Jul-13 12:53:44

haveigot baby bird hasn't really rolled over, she's tried a few times but got her arms stuck under her!She likes to swing her legs over but not actually roll over if you know what I mean.
When she's lying down and I pull her arms she sits up instead of just moving her head like when she was little. She thinks it's a really fun game and always give a big smile when I do it.
How cute is laughing btw every time I get her to laugh I just crack up it's so funny and cute!!!!!!

BonaDea Wed 31-Jul-13 13:28:21

Bird - my DS is exactly the same. Rolls most of the way but gets one arm stuck under. Am sure it will just be a matter of time. Pulling on the arms to sit him up is met with much hilarity here too - I call them 'baby sit ups' and now as soon as I say that he starts smiling.

Laughs are priceless. DS sounds so goofy when he chuckles sometimes I could just weep with happiness!

In other news DS is teething and is quite grumpy as a result! It looks like his upper teeth are coming in first which is apparently not the usual order. Poor thing - have cal gel to the ready!

Tea It's similar to yours, but it covers the whole of the inside of the cot, so imagine it will prevent her from smacking her head or at least I hope so. I got it from Amazon but am sure you can get it from other places too:

Baby Cot Bumper

bird and Bona H was like that just over a week ago so chances are they'll figure it out soon. She used to get really, really frustrated when her arm got on the way. She'd move her legs too, but not her head. She gets cross now though as can't always roll all the way back and it worries her. When she's lying down she keeps raising her head and shoulders a couple of inches for about 10 seconds then sighs and lets herself go back down again, it's so cute. She's 16 weeks though so she might just be going through a big growth stage smile

H is teething too and her teeth drive her nuts so it's a mix between bonjela and abensol or however you spell it. She chops on whatever she can get a hold of; teething ring, bottle, edge of a boy, boob anything bless her.

Her laughs are amazing too. I just melt when she laughs and she is a baby who does laugh a fair bit. She loves bouncy things and people shaking their heads back and forth smile

Teapig Thu 01-Aug-13 21:55:56

Thanks for the cot bumper link num.

bona, teething is in full swing here too. Thea's upper teeth seem to be the first to be coming through.

Re teething, when do you give teething gel to help with the pain? I haven't given T any went as she seems ok chomping on things but she often rubs her ears like nobody's business which I think is a sign of teething discomfort.

On the sleep front today has been sooo much better. T has had about 4 hours sleep in day time naps and went down at 7.30pm without needing resettling shock Unheard of in this house. I'm hoping that more day time sleep and an earlier bedtime make for a better night's sleep. Bet I've jinxed it now.

Hoping everyone gets some sleep in this crazy heat.

Teapig Thu 01-Aug-13 21:57:32

Sorry wrong name check, the heat has addled my brain. Thanks for the link having.

BonaDea Thu 01-Aug-13 22:16:35

Well, my lo actually has a tooth now! He's 19 weeks and weirdly has an upper tooth first. Three others are just below the gums. From what I have read this is definitely unusual but not unheard of in terms of how early they are, the fact there are four at once and also that they are top teeth!. No wonder my little smiler has turned into quite a sad little man the last few days.

You'll know when use he cal gel - when they are obviously in pain!

Jo1984uk Fri 02-Aug-13 20:57:57

No sign of any teeth here yet, but I don't think it will be to much longer.. Sofia has been chomping down on anything that goes remotely near her mouth. She loves to bite on my fingers and her guns are feeling quite hard. Bought some nelsons teething gel but I havnt tried it yet.

The heat has also changed Sofia's feeding pattern in the night, she now wakes up for an extra feed at 3am then another at about 4.30/5 and again at 6. Now the weather is getting cooler she is still waking for the extra feed so I'm not sure if it's gona be a regular thing now!

She hasn't rolled yet, she has just started to do little side rolls though where she tips her body over to the side and goes back again.

I loved baby giggles, I can't help but laugh every time she does smile

catherine19 Sun 04-Aug-13 06:01:52

I've had teething gel on for ages! I use it when he is upset and rubbing his mouth seems to work. I've here'd the powders are good as well.

birdbrain21 Sun 04-Aug-13 17:01:49

what teething gel do people recommend? Baby bird is definitely teething, she's chomping on everything in sight, and is not too happy about it! Been up a lot in the night crying (she's been sleeping through since 4/5 weeks!!!) so guess it must be from teething and would love to have something to help calm her, I can't cope with another 2 years of distressed crying!!!!

Dorris83 Sun 04-Aug-13 23:22:24

Hi all I've been lurking for months but these threads seem to move so quickly that I've never felt brave enough to jump in!
But today's the day smile

I had my PFB DS on April 15th. He is an utter star, people comment on how chilled he is. He is so lovely but on the odd occasion that he has a full screaming crying fit (overtired or windy) I completely panic! On hindsight I can see that he's obviously had a big day and is really tired etc, but in the moment DH and I look at each other with bewildered worried expressions whilst jigging, singing and panicking!

But mostly he is just gorgeous. Loves his milk, hates his car seat, loves cuddles, happy to lie on his playmat, kick about, coo at you and chew on his toys.

I'm loving my mat leave but realise that I'm a complete baby bore these days ! I've just requested to join the Facebook group, sorry for being such a late joiner! I find this thread really useful as everyone is talking about things that I'm thinking about.

Yes to dribbling, no to rolling, yes to having a big chubby baby (about 16lbs and 16 weeks) no to laughing yet (despite me and DH acting like complete fools to try to amuse him!

Ok total essay there (told you I'm a baby bore!)
Hi everyone <waves hello>

catherine19 Mon 05-Aug-13 09:26:26

I no what u mean about wing a baby bore! I've made ,y closest friend promise they will tell me if I get too bad. I no like no one with babies other then rose I've met so yes mn is brill for all that!
My lo is quite chilled as well which really does make the crying seem odd! The other day a friend visited and he screamed the second she held him and he's usually good at being passed on! But the I did see the time a it was 3pm and that was his first cry of the day! Although we are getting more now he s starting to teeth boo sad

birdbrain21 Mon 05-Aug-13 10:59:23

welcome dorris
you're right that threads move really quickly but this one seems to be slowing down to a halt! where is everyone? Are you all using facebook more then mn now?! I don't have facebook could never be bothered for it but every day I'm getting more and more tempted just to see what you guys are all up to!!!!!

Dorris83 Mon 05-Aug-13 19:36:58

I think this thread has slowed because of Facebook, I've just joined the Facebook group and it is really busy, lots of comments and posts through the day. I'm really liking it- you should join!

LikeCandy Mon 05-Aug-13 22:58:52

Dorris Hi! Try the double whammy, actions with sounds. Apparently babies laught at touch to start off with so tickling with funny noises, ear chomping, noisy wet raspberries!

Bird come on over! I've only been in the FB group a couple of months and I wish I'd joined earlier - so nice to put pictures to babies!

Jo1984uk Tue 06-Aug-13 20:51:28

I definitely need to join Facebook.. Havnt in the past for various reasons but now seems like a good time to join smile

I discovered nelsons teething granules yesterday, they are amazing!! I was stood at the til with lo on my hip crying, first time she has really been grizzly with her gums. She thought it was great and opened her mouth in anticipation!

MrsMummyP Wed 07-Aug-13 09:37:44

Hello Dorris <waves back>

We have the Calpol teething gel. Only used it once as the unexplained crying seems to have stopped. She's still chewing on things, but not as upset so i assume any teeth movements have settled down. Don't know if it was the gel or would have happened anyway....

Anyone else's baby started making a grumbling straining noise when they want something? My DD was never a big crier but has started making strange noises instead-usually when she wants something, milk, to be picked up, is tired etc. Is she just testing her newly discovered vocal chords? Lots of other pleasant gurgles as well...

kellestar Wed 07-Aug-13 23:19:32

Whoops! This slid off my threads I am on! Marking my place...

W seems to be really gnawing on his fist at the moment. Tried nelsons and Ashton and Parsons without a vast effect (worked on DD though) so may try the cal gel if I get near a boots.

Yes FB is really busy. Loving seeing the babies development.

W makes a noise to call us, it's like the 'a' part of apple. Quite cute as DD responds to it with the same noise and either gives him a toy or chats.

She is being a little rough at the moment and we've had to step in a few times. She's also decided that he should start weaning... He had a spoonful of mayo that he gobbled up as I wasn't quick enough to leap across the room and remove. DH then admits he has caught DD feeding him pear, orange and an ice lolly too.

I am exhausted but can't switch off or settle. Everyone is snoring too. Two more hours and W will demand boob, so shall go and count sheep or something...

kellestar Thu 08-Aug-13 04:44:21

So far... 1.30 and now 4.30... I hope B doesn't want to get up at 6.

KeepTheFaithBaby Thu 08-Aug-13 08:37:41

Welcome Dorris. Good to have you here! Your baby is just a day younger than mine smile I try not to be a baby bore but it's all consuming, isn't it?!

Yes FB is definitely moving faster these days, I find it easier to keep up and post on there.

I currently have a baby snoozing on my arm. If I move her she cries and tries to latch again! We have bonjela but I also bought teethers like a dummy (closer to nature ones) which give her little mouth something to gnaw on.

Trishstar Thu 08-Aug-13 11:29:11

Welcome Dorris. Good to have you! Fb is definitely busier x

Dorris83 Thu 08-Aug-13 18:41:07

likecandy thanks for the advice on how to be funny for a baby smile I've tried the noisy 'nom nom nom' kisses a few times which elicited a BIG open mouthed smile and coos but still no laugh! I will persevere.

mrs mummy p DS makes grumbling straining noises but they aren't new: they are often followed by some rather unbecoming parp parp noises grin

keep the faith baby it's so good to come on here and on Facebook to see how other babies really close in age to DS are getting on. I got to indulge my baby bore tendencies at an under 1s group today but there aren't any babies t exactly the same place as mine. It is mind blowing to see 8/9/10 month old babies sitting up, crawling, eating etc. there's so much to come!

catherine19 Thu 08-Aug-13 20:34:10

I love the baby clubs for seeing what the older babies are doing, I get really excited!
Although every nappy change is much harder now he's rolling more!

num3onway Sun 11-Aug-13 09:07:22

Hello!
I for one don't use FB so please don't all run off and leave me
Dd rolls back to front almost everytime you put her down but then gets cross as dislikes being on her tummy!
She's very dribbly and chews everything, she is a nightmare if you put her in anything with long sleeves as they are soaked within seconds! Gums are white but no teeth yet. I have the dentinox teething gel, I seem to remember some of the others can only be used so many times a day one I think is calgel. Dentinox can be used after twenty min although I have only used it for her once so far as she's not one for wingeing most of the time
I have read somewhere online that the recommended age for weaning is going to be pushed back from six months due to some babies struggling if left til 6 months. My eldest two were starting weaning at 17 weeks because they were both ridiculously greedy. Talking 9oz of hungry milk every two hours! Dd is no where near that but I think I may start introducing a little solid food around 5 months

catherine19 Sun 11-Aug-13 09:35:40

Same on the rolling, he can to front to back and back to front but not together!
We hav mega drools he's starting to get a rash under his chin but if I put a bib on him he kicks off cos he thinks he's going to get fed!
That's interesting about the pos changes n weaning ages, I was thinking about 5mth to for weaning.
So all sounds pretty similar here!

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 11-Aug-13 10:24:44

Faithlet rolls back to front pretty much every time she's laid down but front to back is less frequent! She's 17 weeks and nowhere near weaning yet. Interested in watching people eat, hands in mouth but that's it.

Like night was a miracle! She went to sleep at 8pm!!! I got some evening! grin Think it was a combination of not much sleep in the day, massage and a drop of hungry baby formula in her bottle with EBM. After weeks of hours and hours feeding her to sleep til between 9 and 10 it was great.

birdbrain21 Sun 11-Aug-13 10:52:19

num I also don't use facebook, lets hope others stick around with us here!

baby bird is great at rolling front to back but still gets stuck if she tries the other way round. she now actually prefers tummy time to playing on her back so have to keep rolling her back over. She's being a big moan with teething, we're using bonjela which you can only put on every 3 hours but seems to be managing with that.
she seems to have just made the connection that mummy=food. she keeps on stopping mid-feed to have a look up at me and give a gorgeous smile grin
apparanetly nappy change is the funniest thing as soon as I put her on the changing table and say "shall we change your nappy?" I get big smiles and giggles, even if a minute before she was crying!!!

LoobyLou33 Sun 11-Aug-13 20:18:58

Hello! I've mostly been on fb lately but enjoy catching up here too. Welcome Dorris:-)
Dd will roll onto her side from back but doesn't' seem to want to go further. When we put her on her tummy she gets frustrated!

My big news is that most unexpectedly, she slept "through the night" for the first time! grin From 9pm til 5.45am. She's 16 weeks and ebf. Of course I woke earlier with leaky boobs, needing a pee and in a panic! I'm trying not to get my hopes up for a repeat but it's hard not to get excited...Actually today's been a bit daft in terms of naps which threw bedtime out so that's probably already scuppered it.

One thing I did wonder is, do they need more daytime feeds once they sleep longer at night? Usually she goes 3-4 hrs between feeds and often only one boob per feed (when I offer the other she usually sicks a lot up). Anyone been there and done that yet? I know a lot of folks are still up a lot at night...I was with ds1 so this is a pleasant surprise!

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 11-Aug-13 21:15:37

I'll still be on MN but FB definitely moves fast these days.

looby Faithlet has been sleeping through for a while! She feeds a lot in the day. I don't really track it (though I will tomorrow if you like?!) but basically I tend to feed her when she wakes up from sleep/naps, if she's fussy then she tanks up at bedtime. She used to cluster feed for hours in the evening (often starting at 4pm and finishing between 9 and 10). However now she's feeding for less time at bedtime and has gone to sleep at 8pm the last two nights <does a little dance>. Still she fed for an hour between 7 and 8 after her bath and massage before she went down!

bird mid feed smiles are amazing, aren't they?! grin

8pm settling might mean we can actually go out for dinner at some point soon.....oh gosh I hope it lasts!

LoobyLou33 Sun 11-Aug-13 21:54:08

Hi faith yes if you don't mind letting me know about her feeds tomorrow, that would be cool. Thanks. Dd does feed/suck more in evenings too, it definitely tips into comfort sucking and like you, I look forward to the day when we can put her down earlier and go out..especially as she has refused the bottle in the past. Are you ebf or does she have some formula in the evening? Let's hope she keeps up the 8pm bedtime!

I just read the fb stats, my friend had an Abigail Faith in January!! She is a Christian (as am I)- are you too, or did you just like the names?

Everyone - have a good week with your babies :-)

Mama1980 Mon 12-Aug-13 07:19:08

Oops this slipped off of threads I am on, am trying to keep up but I just have no time. we got back from a holiday in Cornwall yesterday. We had a great time.
Alex is now sitting up well kinda half the time he rolls over to the side but he doesn't like help! He has a appointment later this week with the preemie nutritionist again, he is still taking a breast Feed every two hours and having gentle purees as advised as well he is hungry all the time so they want to discuss increasing his amounts of food but want to run some checks first.
He loved the sea when we were away, dd and ds swim like fish and Alex was desperate to join them he sat at the edge falling into the waves, my brother carried him out and nearly dropped him he started kicking and wriggling so hard-brother nearly had a heart attack grin
I will try to put some pics on fb in the next few days.
I can't believe it is August already 4months and it will be Alex's birthday, How crazy is that?!? grin

KeepTheFaithBaby Mon 12-Aug-13 07:43:34

Morning all! I can't quite believe it, she slept for 11 hours! Whoop! I think she'd have slept later if not for DH's alarm...

looby yes we're Christians (although faith is a bit wobbly at present). We chose Faith before she was even conceived! After we'd been TTC for over a year we thought Faith was fitting (it actually took 2 years 8 months!). Abigail popped into my head at about 19 weeks pregnant. We liked it as a longer name, liked the nickname Abby and the meaning The joy of the Father smile

Ok feeds I will try to post as it happens - 7am woke, fed 30 minutes total (15 mins both sides).

KeepTheFaithBaby Mon 12-Aug-13 08:14:34

8.10 Feeding again!

num3onway Mon 12-Aug-13 08:20:28

I dunno how you bf mums do it! I very much like dds routine of bed at 8 til at least 5 and feeds every three hours!

KeepTheFaithBaby Mon 12-Aug-13 08:34:16

Ah fed for 10 minutes then slept.

num don't forget it's quick to put them on the boob once feeding is established. I'm fortunate that she sleeps well overnight too! smile

num3onway Mon 12-Aug-13 08:41:26

An I forgot the convienience bf prob has over ff. you just stick them on there. No sterilising kettle boiling measuring out and cooling!

KeepTheFaithBaby Mon 12-Aug-13 08:55:52

Yeah. Certainly getting BF established is time consuming! I struggled in hospital - the girl opposite and next to me were FF using the glass bottles - you know, screw the lid on a go? While I struggled to get Faithlet to latch! I was envy at how easy it was. Course their babies slept for longer too. Faithlet does have a bottle in the evening (last couple of nights we've mixed EBM and formula). It does take a bit longer but obviously you feed less often so it's swings and roundabouts I guess. I do like it when we go out though. I don't have to worry about taking food stuff with me. It's like - do I have my boobs? Yes, ok, let's go! grin

num3onway Mon 12-Aug-13 08:59:16

Haha well your not gonna forget your boobs are you!

Dd woke at 5 today had 8oz and went back off til 7. Offered milk at 8 but she's not interested, tryed again at 8.30 and she took 2oz and is now back asleep! She is normally very bang on with her 3 hourly feeds! And usually has at least 6 if not all of it!

KeepTheFaithBaby Mon 12-Aug-13 09:08:07

I'm sure she'll make up for it later!

Blimey 9.05 awake and demanding food again! Think she's having a growth spurt! Yesterday I was on the phone so DH gave her a bottle of 3oz. I went out for a run and she took another 6oz while I was out!

num3onway Mon 12-Aug-13 09:36:12

Yep I'm sure she will

birdbrain21 Mon 12-Aug-13 11:44:22

looby baby bird has been sleeping through for a while as well. She goes every 3 hours during the day but less in the evening and feeds for 20 mins from one side and just fusses around if I offer her the other. She has about 6 feeds a day (sometimes with a little 5 min snack feed in the middle of feeds) so normally feeding 7.30, 10.30, 1.30, 4.30, 7.00, 8.30 and is asleep by 9.00. she normally sleeps during the day for about 4 and a half hours (broken up into 3 sleeps). hth.

birdbrain21 Mon 12-Aug-13 11:47:25

forgot to say in previous post she's ebf and when I express and give her a bottle she has 5oz

KeepTheFaithBaby Mon 12-Aug-13 15:15:25

Forget me trying to post how often she feeds in the day! Today has been hourly, clearly she's having a growth spurt!

LikeCandy Mon 12-Aug-13 22:23:25

num I couldn't be bothered with all the hassle of bottles and formula - BF is super convenient for us, and so much cheaper than FF (though I have spend a small fortune on nursing bras!) the only downside is being restricted in what I can wear but that's a small price to pay!

keepthefaith we're having a hungry day (and night so far) here too! so glad after a couple of weeks where she's been terrible with her appetite. feeding at home is working out far better than feeding when we're out and about - she's far too distractible at the moment!

LoobyLou33 Tue 13-Aug-13 01:21:53

Thanks faith for posting - funny that you're having an unusual day of feeds! I wonder if shell suddenly outgrow her vests! birdbrain that pattern sounds similar to ours, tho she rarely sleeps that much in the day..lucky you getting 4 hours! She did fall asleep in her carrycot today while I put her down to sort some things out, but generally she needs motion or boob or cuddles to achieve and prolong sleep.

mama glad you had a fab holiday, it sounds gorgeous! Did you say Cornwall? Love it there.

Well dd slept til 530 again last night but as you can see not tonight! I don't think she's hungry though but she wouldn't settle quickly and I'm too tired to try another method... Hopefully means she'll last a bit longer...

LikeCandy Tue 13-Aug-13 03:49:35

Also mama I can't believe Alex will be 1 in 4m! That's crazy talk :D glad you all had a great trip!

num3onway Tue 13-Aug-13 05:13:12

Well we are on first feed of the day. Dd was asleep at 8.30 til just before 5. She only took half her bedtime bottle so I knew it'd be an early one! Hopefully I can get her bk to sleep and have myself another hour before older dc are up!

AmberLav Tue 13-Aug-13 20:35:31

Just catching up for first time in ages! Been up in Scotland, firstly at a cotrage that had no internet and barely any phone reception, then at my mum's where the wifi is turned off at night!

E did 9 till 5.45am one night, but keeps chopping and changing from one day to the next!

Will try to get back into the overnight habit again now!

catherine19 Tue 13-Aug-13 22:09:20

It is funny looking a the times people post! Maybe that's also why it's slowing down cos lots of babes are sleeping better or we are getting used to being up!

catherine19 Tue 13-Aug-13 22:10:57

I've been battling with the car seat to move the straps cos ds is getting soo big.
Anyone no how to tell when we need a bigger one?

num3onway Tue 13-Aug-13 22:14:47

First stage normally last til 9-12 months I think, it goes off weight of baby

Dd been unsettled today, got very upset at last bottle being in her mouth so I suspect sore gums

Hopefully she will be better tomorrow

What are people buying babies for Xmas? Early I know but I have 3dc to buy for so have to get ahead!

num3onway Thu 15-Aug-13 08:18:55

Where are you all?????

KeepTheFaithBaby Thu 15-Aug-13 08:25:27

I'm around.

Christmas? Gosh, no idea! Have bought an elf outfit though wink

num3onway Thu 15-Aug-13 09:00:21

Ooo cute!

So far dd has fisher price first doll and pram walker, and a sit and stand giraffe

We have three dc so find it best to start around this time of year they all have three presents each ATM, actually the older two also have pjs and undies

birdbrain21 Thu 15-Aug-13 11:22:24

been too busy trying to keep a grumpy teething baby happy to post! I do love her but she's such a nightmare sometimes!!!!

KeepTheFaithBaby Thu 15-Aug-13 18:40:42

bird I know what you mean! I managed to get her to have a couple of decent naps today so I feel loads better. Managed a run this evening too. Determined to get fit!

Well after many misgivings we have started mixed feeding, just a drop of formula with EBM in her evening bottle. It's working like a charm - along with a set bath time of 6pm and massage. Instead of 9pm settling we're looking at 7.30-8! smile it makes me feel a bit inadequate, like my milk can't quite fill her up?! But it gives me hope that we might be able to go out in the evening soon! smile

Trishstar Fri 16-Aug-13 19:24:35

First seats are normally suitable til 9kg Xx

kellestar Fri 16-Aug-13 22:32:10

Most first seats can go up to 12 or even 18 kg. But they are considered to have outgrown it if the top of their head is above the seat back.

The minimum weight for forward facing is 9kg.

My DD weighed 9kg at 2y4m and I bought an extended rear facing seat so she would be much comfier.

I did a lot of research into seats and rear facing and would keep both of mine rear facing for as long as possible.

We have a britax first class plus for DD but considering the izi besafe or britax max fit (isofix compatible).

kellestar Fri 16-Aug-13 22:55:05

I am still awake though everyone is still asleep.

My best friends dad passed away this morning. I have been trying to support her and really struggling to say the right thing. I know that nothing is the right thing for now. She is coming up for 20 weeks pregnant and was due a scan next week and was taking her dad to see the baby. It was 3 weeks ago he was given the news that it would be less than 3 months, it's just gone so quick. He was a lovely man and I already miss his gruff voice, and he is not my dad sad

DD is at my parents for her first sleepover and I am a bag of nerves. Don't want to call as it would look like I don't trust them. Never been apart from my little girl overnight. Even when DS arrived I wasn't away overnight.

AmberLav Sat 17-Aug-13 02:57:13

Kelle - sorry to hear about your friends dad. She must be devasted. My dad died when I was 18, and you always dwell on the stages of your life that he is missing... And totally natural for you to miss him too - he sounds like a lovely man.

I bet DD was very excited to be staying at her grandparents! In my experience, the wee ones love grandparents sleepovers - but don't be surprised if she starts playing up when you arrive to pick her up, we always got a "he's been great till now" as he started bouncing of the walls!

AmberLav Sat 17-Aug-13 03:01:27

Back to car seats - don't be in a rush to move them on, they will manage to fit in the seat for a lot longer than you may think, especially if you have to have front facing next due to your car size (I have a 3 ddor clio, so rear facing stage 1 wouldnt have fitted).

DS was 75-98% percentile, yet stayed in his first seat till 13 months.

catherine19 Sat 17-Aug-13 10:32:44

What got me thinking bout car seats is that his feet nearly touch the back of the seat!
As for Xmas, I'm the biggest Xmas fan but am going a little minimalist this yr. still having lots of decs although slightly concerned about a prob crawling baby and a tree! My mam is buying ds nappies and we are just getting him a token pressies, I'm going to ask other relies for specific things. I see next yr as his real first Xmas.
I'm using pics of ds in an Xmas outfit as cards as well
Any got ideas of types of things we shud ask for?

AmberLav Sat 17-Aug-13 20:33:07

The legs will curl up in the chair, so don't worry about just that!

Christmas - think about things you might need up to the 1st birthday. I asked for a leapfrog walker for DS, as he started using that at 9-10 months. The little trollrys are good too, maybe even a little wooden trike...

LoobyLou33 Sat 17-Aug-13 22:48:22

kelle how was the sleepover? I know how ypou feel, I went to a hen do in march leaving ds with dh, at nearly 2 that was my first night away from him and I was glad to be back! When in labour I was in hospital 2 nights and he didn't even ask where I was! Sorry to hear about your friend, that's very sad.

faith how's the new routine? Enjoying your evenings? We couldn't believe it tonight: both kids fast asleep in bed by 730 pm, a first! Saying that dd just woke when dh came to bed (I went early to prepare for the night shift!) I wonder if she'd have stayed asleep if he hadn't disturbed her...treated it as a dream feed opportunity, not sure it'll make a difference but here's hoping! Last night she woke at 2 but has been going til 4/5 most nights.

AmberLav Sun 18-Aug-13 01:29:35

Oh the joys, 2 year old DS has croup! So DH is on A duty, and I'm obviously looking after E! House is typical terrace, so the bedrooms are right next door (which is good and bad) so E is doing well to stay asleep as much as she can with seal pup next door (the cough of croup is like a bark sound)!

E can last till 3.30, and just do the one feed, but if she wakes after 1am, she generally needs feeding...

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 18-Aug-13 13:24:19

looby it's still a work in progress! She definitely settles faster with a bit of formula inside her so I've stopped expressing and we give her a bottle of formula now. The problem is she's a poor sleeper in the day so after a really rough day yesterday - I am all over the shop, I think it's down to the mirena coil so I'm going to ask to have it removed! - we have decided to really try to implement a proper routine. Got the book, working on her napping in her cot. She's quite resistant but after an hour of trying this morning she slept for an hour! DH is just trying to settle her for her next nap now. The real test will be me trying to do it alone tomorrow!

Amber that sounds tough! Hope he recovers quickly.

kelle how awful about your friend's dad sad It's clearly documented that doctors are rubbish at predicting how long people have got but its a shame that it happened while she's pregnant. I hope you can find ways to support her.

num3onway Mon 19-Aug-13 12:54:01

Gone quiet again

Anyone read about these wonder weeks? Dd is 19&6 and waking every night which she hasn't previously done, she's also fussing at some bottles. I am thinking this may be "wonder week 19"

Anyone else experience this?

KeepTheFaithBaby Mon 19-Aug-13 13:39:46

Yes we're in a leap at the moment (she's 18 weeks). Naps in the day are very difficult!

Just been for coffee with my friend who is 36+5 and likely to be induced soon. Excited to have anothet little play mate for Faithlet!

catherine19 Mon 19-Aug-13 15:21:42

This will make some of u laugh I read babies at 4mth sleep around 15hrs a day! No way in this house! Ds generally sleeps 8pm -5.30am (9hrs 30max) and will often only sleeps for 2 hrs in the day sometimes broken up in to 4 or more naps! We've had days with just minutes of naps in the day. I do find it funny sometimes when he is full of beans and I'm cream crackerd on days he hasn't slept!

KeepTheFaithBaby Mon 19-Aug-13 19:33:58

catherine Faithlet does nearly that! Last night slept for 11 hours shock and had about not enough maybe 2 1/2 in total today! Naps were better today but still not brilliant.

num3onway Mon 19-Aug-13 19:35:02

I would say dd has 15 hours I think

Last 24 hours where roughly

8 pm - 4.30am (8 and a half)

5.30 - 7. 30 (2)

9.30 - 10.30 (1)

11.30 - 1.30 (2)

4 - 4.30 (half hour)

7 - 7.30 (half hour)

So 14 hours. She should be in bed for 9. Only lasts roughly two hours max awake

catherine19 Mon 19-Aug-13 20:18:15

Jealous! But at least he sleeps at night so not complaining! He forces himself awake, the other eve was soo funny we were having a meal out with fam and he wud not let him self o to sleep while we were there anytime he started to nod he jerked himself awake to look at people with in 2 min of being in the car he was asleep must hav been awake for around 6hrs if nt more!

num3onway Mon 19-Aug-13 20:27:42

Gosh 6 hours is long for such a little one!

I am hoping dd passes this wonder week thing soon and goes back to like 8-7 lol

catherine19 Mon 19-Aug-13 20:44:39

He's too nosy for sleep!

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 20-Aug-13 08:30:39

Argh did I say Faithlet slept well? Cursed myself! DH accidentally put a day nappy on instead of a night nappy last night (they look quite similar). By 1.30am we had a leaked nappy and awake baby! Changed her, fed her in bed. Thought she was settled enough to go back into the cot at 4.30 but no, she woke demanding more food. Quiet day at home I think <props eyes open with matchsticks>

birdbrain21 Tue 20-Aug-13 09:24:45

ahh faith thats so annoying! I try to avoid telling freinds how long baby bird sleeps for in case that happens to me wink

we wentout last night for a meal and ended up holding her on my lap all evening and eating one handed, think she's getting too old and interested in life to just sit quietly in the pram when we go out...

catherine19 Tue 20-Aug-13 10:06:56

I plan sitting ds in a high chair nxt time we go out even though he's not eating, that way he can see us all and will hopefully stay settled. I miss when the pram wud instantly put him to sleep!

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 20-Aug-13 10:22:23

I tried Abigail in her high chair recliner booster seat yesterday/today and she seemed to like it! I had my breakfast at the table while she sat watching avidly. This is one that straps to a seat so I'd consider taking it next time we go out to dinner, actually we're off on holiday in a fortnight, think we'll take it with us!

num3onway Tue 20-Aug-13 19:32:15

I have sat dd in her highchair which reclines a few times now while I've made dinner or done pots. She seems to like it

birdbrain21 Wed 21-Aug-13 12:46:01

whenever baby bird sits with us at the table she watchs everyone eating as though she wants some, she's tried grabbing my fork/plate a few times! Starting to think about introducing food she's 18 weeks. Anyone else started weaning yet? (or thinking about it?)

catherine19 Wed 21-Aug-13 13:49:26

I think we'll do it at 5mth, he pays attention to food, wolfs his milk and I think he'd take more (having 8oz 5ish times a day!) he's also not far off sitting. Starting on a little bit of baby rice etc see how it goes. I think I'm too controlling and worrying for baby led weening!

num3onway Wed 21-Aug-13 14:50:37

Ill be starting in next week I think dd is 20 weeks ATM

num3onway Wed 21-Aug-13 14:51:06

And I'll be doing a mix of purees and blw

KeepTheFaithBaby Wed 21-Aug-13 14:54:26

I'm aiming to do blw at 6 months. She was such a tiny thing to start with (5lb 4oz) and seems happy enough BF with one bottle of formula top up in the evenings for now, I don't want to rush the introduction of food. Quite a few of the girls on FB have started weaning already.

num3onway Wed 21-Aug-13 17:50:55

My eldest two started weaning at 17 weeks but they were both very hungry babies downing 9oz of hungry milk every two hours! They both took to solids well and were weaned mainly on purees.

Dd is 20 weeks and takes 7 or 8 oz infant formula every 3 hours

I am returning to work in a few weeks though and want to get her started before hand plus I've read abit about 6 months being to late for some babies and them struggling to accept different textures

I say what ever suits you and your baby! They are all different after all

I will be starting with baby rice although older dc would never take to this they preferred baby porridge so ill use that if she is like them and then move on to giving my own fruit and veg purees

I don't really like using a lot of jars

Once she is 6 months ill offer finger foods, cooked soft veg etc

AmberLav Thu 22-Aug-13 02:37:39

I would sugest not being in too much of a rush to start solids. It seems exciting, but it is only once you start that you discover it is just a succession of stresses about making sure it is varied and healthy...

I waited to 24 weeks with DS, and I found that by then his swallow was great, so I could pretty much skip purees and jump straight to mashes and a form of blw. I know they are talking obout some babies having problems with textures if left till 6 month but my nct group experience was exactly the opposite...

num3onway Thu 22-Aug-13 08:52:44

Asda baby event online today ladies!

Placed my order already, seems to only be through Asda direct not normal Asda site

6 packs johnsons wipes £3!

catherine19 Thu 22-Aug-13 09:30:46

I'm off to look at asda then ta x

catherine19 Thu 22-Aug-13 09:31:08

Tesco also hav a baby event at the mo x

num3onway Thu 22-Aug-13 11:56:24

Anyone noticed price of aptimil cartons has shot up?

Last wk they were 55p in tesco, now 79p

catherine19 Thu 22-Aug-13 15:13:26

Rubbish they' generally 69 in most places still that in morrisons. On the subject of being frugal, it's well worth signing up t the hipp mailing list I got sent some baby rice, a weaning spoon and vouchers for money off and a free jar. I'm not planning on using many jars but it will b handy for emergencies (when I can't b bothered to cook and going out)

num3onway Thu 22-Aug-13 16:52:47

I've signed up for all the baby clubs only got stuff from cow n gate so far (small cow and some vouchers)

I hope the aptamil cartons aren't gonna go up to 79p everywhere as I plan on using them for nursery!

catherine19 Thu 22-Aug-13 17:40:28

That's rubbish that its gone up not re talking rubbish just realised how that cud b read! Still 69 in asda but powder is 9.99 x

num3onway Thu 22-Aug-13 18:45:06

Lol Catherine I knew what you meant!

Powder was previously about 9.50 I think so that's quite a rise

I might try n stock up on cartons from Asda while they 69p

Anyone know how far the expiration dates are?

catherine19 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:41:01

I'm really gon to show how sad I am powder was 9.49 in morrisons the other day and cartons 69 a box of powder generally lasts us 6ish days so 50p a week is quite a diff. Think we'll switch to a cheaper follow on milk though only kept to aptamil to help the guilt of not bf! Think that is why I'm se keen to wean so I can put that behind me, I wud hav been happy to wean at 8wk when I stopped expressing tbh if it wasn't harmful to him!

num3onway Thu 22-Aug-13 22:23:04

Catherine you shouldn't feel guilty for not having bf your baby! You have to make the choice that Are best for you and your family. I know breast milk is best but these days the formulas are so advanced and well developed.
I have two older dc who were ff from day one and they are happy healthy and bright!

AmberLav Fri 23-Aug-13 03:23:27

Cstherine - stop feeling guilty over ffing! The only 100% ff baby in our nct group was the first to be toilet trained, and has the best language skills, so being ff hasn't held her back!

On follow on milk, generally the over and under 6 month stuff is pretty much exactly the same, it's just that they are allowed to promote the over 6 month stuff. So no need to move on if you dont want to.

num3onway Fri 23-Aug-13 09:37:26

So quiet on here

Dd (20 weeks) has just rolled from back to front to back to front to back to front

This is the first time she's managed to get back off her front she usually gets stuck and shouts! I am impressed!

AmberLav Sat 24-Aug-13 03:22:17

E managed back to front for the first time yesterday, but now she seems to be keeping her arm in place for a quick reversal! She's 17 weeks... I love this stage, when they are starting to discover movement, and "how the h did that happen"!

I still think it's a shame that mn is so quiet, but I suppose part of that is the holidays... this is a much looser format, but I suppose people like the protection of the closed group on fb- we've had our first"next pregnancy" announcement over there already, but only once the mum knew no one else could find out from outside the group. I apologise that I can't name who, but hopefully once all is known to be well, she'll wander back here...

AmberLav Sat 24-Aug-13 03:22:43

E managed back to front for the first time yesterday, but now she seems to be keeping her arm in place for a quick reversal! She's 17 weeks... I love this stage, when they are starting to discover movement, and "how the h did that happen"!

I still think it's a shame that mn is so quiet, but I suppose part of that is the holidays... this is a much looser format, but I suppose people like the protection of the closed group on fb- we've had our first"next pregnancy" announcement over there already, but only once the mum knew no one else could find out from outside the group. I apologise that I can't name who, but hopefully once all is known to be well, she'll wander back here...

num3onway Sat 24-Aug-13 08:43:10

Oh wow I did wonder how long it would be! That is quick though her april baby must be 5 months max!

No more for me

Boo

Oh and aptamil cartons now up to 79p in Asda toot looks like that will be the price everywhere

KeepTheFaithBaby Sat 24-Aug-13 08:59:51

Her baby was quite early IIRC (just checked, it was end of March) and she's due 26th April.

Hooray we had first sleeping through again after several disturbed nights! She could do with a nap though and I can hear her gurgling away to DH! smile

Anyone got fun plans for the b/h?

num3onway Sat 24-Aug-13 09:09:41

Ooo I'm so intrigued!

Anyone with older dc. How many nights of trying bed without pull-up before thinking child isn't ready? Ds2 is 4.3 and on third night no pull up at his own request but every night so far has been wet

Anyone else ttc? Or thinking of? That's anyone apart from the lady who exceeded not apart from me lol as I am not allowed

num3onway Sat 24-Aug-13 11:35:33

Haha I noseyed on the old stats thread so now have a rough idea who it could be

Iamsad

AmberLav Sun 25-Aug-13 03:48:40

My little boy is coming up to 2 and a half, and we are nowhere near even starting in the day, let alone night yet! But I saw my friend yesterday, and her oldest turned 5 in July and still has nappies at night. They recently tried to stop them, and every night was wet, so two nights ago reverted, and of course that night was completely dry!

But it was so sweet, apparently recently he told his best friend his deepest secret that he still wore nappies at night, and his friend told him his deepest secret, that he plays Barbies with his big sister!

I'd love a third, but not until the current ones are 4.5 and 2.5, so no plans to start ttcing anytime soon! I think 3 is anice time to stop. How have you found 3? Much of a difference from 2?

num3onway Sun 25-Aug-13 07:38:15

My eldest is 5.7 and has been pull up less at night for two month, in that time he's had about five accidents so not bad. I think I will put ds2 back in a pull up though.
I didn't attempt day time training until either of them were over three, ds2 has only stopped having accidents in past few months.

I didn't find going from two to three bad at all! I do find it different though. When I had ds2 I had a 16 month old and so neither of them got the time I now get to give dd. them being older is good because they aren't that interested in playing with me as they have each other. Because they are close in age they share interests and most of the time ds2 is able to play what ds1 wants where if the gap was bigger he might not understand. Having a fourth would be totally impractical we don't have the space at all and three keep me busy enough! But I am only mid twenties so I just tell myself if I wanted I could prob have more when elder two move out lol. They will both be 18 before I am even 40 and I know many women are now having babies into mid 40s
Of course by then I may have completely changed my mind and want to live the life I gave up at 19!
Wow this has turned into a long post lol

Dd had her first try of baby rice yesterday at almost 21 weeks. She seemed to love it. She opened her mouth for the spoon near enough straight away and didnt spit much out at all. I am trying to work out which feed it is best to give solids first. Torn between dinner and tea!

Anyone else tried solids yet?

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 25-Aug-13 09:29:20

Morning all. I'm a bit tired after a 3.30am 'feed me' wake up call! We went out for dinner last night which was lovely. First evening out since Faithlet was born. Felt like we'd lost something though!

Argh the sleep refusal continues. Fed her on she dozed off on me but only for 5 minutes. Now wide awake despite being in the swinging chair! DH is still in bed with a migraine. I was hoping for a nice family day out today but I guess that scuppered sad

Re night time dryness, obviously don't have an older DC by with my nephew they always put him on the loo before they go to bed. He went without night time pull ups when he'd had a week of being dry and now rarely wets the bed (he was about 3.6 years when he stopped wearing the pull ups).

num3onway Sun 25-Aug-13 09:32:58

Hmm I took ds 2 at 12.30 the other night and he still wet the bed

birdbrain21 Sun 25-Aug-13 11:36:20

ooh I don't have facebook so I'll have to wait and see who it is. I'd love another one and oddly enough I miss being pg but I did find it very stressful when baby bird was first born so trying to be sensible about waiting because I know at the moment I couldn't cope with 2!

baby bird suddenly has really bad cradle cap. I'm using a special dentinox shampoo which seems to be helping a bit but anyone got tips on how to prevent it coming back?what causes it?

birdbrain21 Sun 25-Aug-13 11:42:42

num I'm plannin on trying solids soon dd sits up really well and trys grabbing everones food wink but she's only 19 weeks and we're moving into a new flat in a couple of weeks so will wait till we're settled in first.

we've started doing self settling i.e putting her down when she's sleepy but still awake and staying with her till she's asleep, anyone done this successfully? she cries quite a lot now but I'm hoping that's because we just started and she'll get used to it!

amber baby bird is also learning to roll both ways I love it grin I get so excited when she turns over I call DF in, he thinks I'm mad wink

itsaruddygame Sun 25-Aug-13 12:17:27

Just calling in to say hello! Not been on for ages. Little H is great although sleep has not progressed as far as I would like and I think that the main cause is that his teeth are on the way. I can't see anything yet but his gums are getting hard and he is definately in a bit if discomfort and doing a lot of mouthing, chewing and dr

itsaruddygame Sun 25-Aug-13 12:23:48

Drooling ...

He is 24 weeks on Monday so I am going to be starting to wean shortly although so far he has not shown much interest in food. He is also fast outgrowing his crib so we are thinking about moving him into his own room as his cot is too big for our bedroom. I will miss him being next to me but hopefully he might sleep a bit better..... (wishful thinking perhaps?!).

Hope you all are having a good bank holiday weekend - well done on the night out faith - I have been out once on my own but we haven't managed to go together yet!

num3onway Sun 25-Aug-13 12:48:27

Dd is always put down awake and self settles well

Her cot mobile usually only needs winding up twice at max and she's fast asleep

I've never done rocking to sleep with any of my three though so they know no different

catherine19 Sun 25-Aug-13 20:44:21

Amber and num thank you but. Don't think anyone will change my mind although on the plus side I used to day dream bout bf and obviously all is well and he sun us shingling! But I'm now thinking abut weaning and what food I'm going to make etc so I really do think magic 6mth will help me 'get over it'! Yay
Good look with the toilet trying! I'm looking forward to being free of nappies but defo not looking forward to the process of tt!

num3onway Sun 25-Aug-13 21:28:51

Bf has never appealed to me

I never tried. Because it wasn't for me

Some would say that's awful, that everyone should at least try

I say I have three perfectly happy healthy children and it was my decision at the end of the day!

num3onway Sun 25-Aug-13 21:33:35

waits to be jumped on

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 25-Aug-13 21:47:33

I think if you aren't keen to breast feed you aren't likely to be successful or confine for very long....I was very keen to breast feed but I think we were only successful because I was so bloody minded - perhaps to the detriment of marriage at times confused. We have found a nice balance now with me BF most of the time with a formula bottle around bath time. She goes to sleep much earlier now.

catherine I understand why you're finding it tough. You wanted to BF, I know it's certainly pushed from HCPs. But remember he did get 8 weeks of breast milk which is a great start no offence to those who chose to FF! but ultimately it needs to be about what's best for both of you. Yes hopefully weaning will be a new chapter for you.

AmberLav Mon 26-Aug-13 02:10:15

Breastfeeding is a funny thing... from the way it's pushed, you would think it's the easiest and most important thing in the world... I am a very happy bf'er, but it really gets my back up the way it is portrayed in NHS land. All the posters proclaiming the wonderful benefits, with none of the realities, it just sets women up for failure... Although I do think that is I was invited to talk to pregnant ladies, they'd probably be put off so much they'd never bother trying! Which wouldn't be my intention! 8 weeks is great even if you pictured going longer pre baby...

If I ever wrote a baby book, it would recommend slightly selfish attitude, put simply, do what makes you feel best! If that involves formula and rocking to sleep, then do it! Don't feel guilty about a single thing, after all, you have created a tiny person - and that's a blinkin' miracle!

I also ignore cradle cap, it does settle down in it's own time...

E doesn't really self settle yet, but neither did DS, but by 8 months he was a fab sleeper day and night, so I'm not worried..

num3onway Mon 26-Aug-13 06:37:48

My 5 year old still has cradle cap, I'm pretty sure it's that as if I use dentinox it vanished! He has a thick mop of hair though so it can't be seen and it doesn't bother him

I absolutely cannot stand the views some medical professionals have on ff. I actually had a doctor roll her eyes at me a couple of months ago

AmberLav Mon 26-Aug-13 06:47:05

My 2 year old's cradle cap returned about the time E developed hers! Not certain I've ever heard of sympathy cradle cap before!

num3onway Mon 26-Aug-13 07:03:21

Ds never had it as a baby it started not long after ds 2 was born!

catherine19 Mon 26-Aug-13 09:02:29

Thank you ladies my friend did some work on bf when we were at uni asking if patients are given the rite to choose and I must agree I felt I had more of a choice about ds having essential tests then ff vs bf! I was asked at nearly every mw appt and hv if I was going to.
Also to clarify I no every bit of BM is good but the 8wks were expressed and I never managed more then 50% but I am pleased I continued for as long as practical to express!
I am really lucky with ds tha he has been abe to self settle at night since 6wks just fights sleep in the day.
My baby is ace!

num3onway Mon 26-Aug-13 09:07:31

When I had my first baby I stayed in hospital the first night where I was completely ignored by all staff while they spent all their time with the bf ladies

I know a lot of women need help with latch positioning etc but doesn't mean ff mums don't need any help

I was just turned 20 and it was my first baby

Luckily I had done my research and was not one to panic!

catherine19 Mon 26-Aug-13 09:18:21

I think it's crazy on ma wards, we do the hardest thing our bodies are prob going to (give birth) and get left I was literally shown my bed and told where the toilet was and left. When I asked what to do with ds when I went to the loo the mw looked at me like I was ad and said to leave him in his cot!

num3onway Mon 26-Aug-13 09:26:45

Same here Catherine I wasn't even told where the toilet was though!

catherine19 Mon 26-Aug-13 11:02:24

I no this is abut random but dh is on phone to mil saying we'll call round this after and he's been on for nearly 30min chatting when we will see her in a couple of hrs! And prob say all the same stuff! It just annoys me that we cud b doing something together

catherine19 Mon 26-Aug-13 11:02:46

That's even worse num!

Needtobestrong Mon 26-Aug-13 11:14:09

Do not get me started on men.....

Needtobestrong Mon 26-Aug-13 11:35:55

Bah that was me num3 on a name change btw, this is also A name change x

Mumof3xx Mon 26-Aug-13 11:37:35

This even x

birdbrain21 Mon 26-Aug-13 16:06:32

well I was bf and still got left alone to figure out first baby at 21!! It was only when I went to walk up and down the corridor to try to get her to sleep and I nearly fainted that a mw offered to help, and ironically her soltion was to give the baby a ff instead of bf lol

catherine19 Mon 26-Aug-13 20:02:03

All the staff were nice but its the same old NHS story that there are not enough of them so the life threatening, legalities and d/c get done first. Then the feeding help cos it's needed for d/c! Don't think they hav time for anything else!

AmberLav Tue 27-Aug-13 05:41:40

DS barely condsumed anything till he was 36 hours old because he had horrendous latch issues (eventually latched on at 17 days) and I didnt know I was allowed to ask for formula until a mum of 4 turned up and immediately asked for a bottle (closely followed by a mum of twins!). I now know that the midwives are not allowed to offer ff, because of this ridiculous pushing of bf in all cases!

And Catherine - you've been expressing all this time! Wow, you deserve a huge round of applause! I detested expressing with A, it involved so much extra effort - I've refused to go anywhere near the pump this time!

Just a random sttn moment - E lasted till 5.20am from a 8pm put down! Way hay!

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 27-Aug-13 07:30:52

My experience was very different, probably because Abigail was low birth weight. We were on transitional care, a 7 bedded unit for Mums and babies where they anticipate high needs - other examples included a Mum with strep B, GD and a couple of babies with jaundice. They had midwives to look after the Mums and children's nurses and nursery nurses for the babies. It took 4 days to get Faithlet's latch sorted. They helped me immensely. They did suggest top ups of formula actually which we did for a couple of days and hand expressing so my tiny, hungry baby found it easier. they got me using nipple shield and expressing using a pump so she could have EBM top ups not formula. Maybe because I work in the NHS I wasn't afraid to ask for help. I rang my bell quite a lot! and did it a while before I thought I'd need help up give them time to get to me. I'd heard horror stories of my local hospital but our care was great smile

Yesterday was hard. My SIL got engaged on Saturday and her future MIL threw a party. Travelled from Lincoln to Macclesfield and back in a day. Faithlet was fine on the way there (slept for the two hours!) but coming back was very fussy. Had to stop to feed her twice and I had to get in the back with her! Also got stuck in a traffic jam near Chesterfield. Bless, when we got home I put her under the baby gym and she just kicked and squeaked for about 15 minutes!

catherine19 Tue 27-Aug-13 08:06:13

I was on transitional care from day 2 cos ds had an infection and jaundice he'd only fed for a few min at that point so he had a top up of ff from a cup then I started expresing and he needed some via a tube I got loads of help but we just cudnt do it a combo of big baby, poorly start, low supply, my state of mind etc! I expressed every 2hrs fr the first 2 weeks but still never built up my supply it tapered off cos I just cudnt do it that much when dh went bk to work and I wanted to get out ant about! Stopped at 8weeks.
I find ds is like that to after a long journey. I never see the point of stopping other then feeds cos its not like he can move around! We went away and as soon as we got BM I to put him unde the baby gym and be grabbed one of the toys and shook and shook!

Cannotbelieveit Tue 27-Aug-13 11:34:04

It's me who's pregnant (name change was Trishstar before)!

Very happy about it and just thinking positive that everything will go smoothly, I had an easy pregnancy before and so far not really feeling sick just a little tired! Ironic as H is such a happy baby and sleeps so well (8pm-8am pretty much all the time).

We've started weaning and H loves food. Made quite a few bits and frozen them for ease and when we're back from holiday will start with finger foods too.

grin

birdbrain21 Tue 27-Aug-13 14:01:53

wow cannot (trish) so exciting, I can't believe it either lol smile in some ways I'm really jealous of you but I know how hard I found pg and just after birth so forcing myself to wait a bit longer!!!

one of my best friends called me last night I haven't seen her in ages and she's 7 and a half months pg. So exciting I was the first one out ofmt group to have a baby so really nice to have someone to give reccomendations and advice to grin and when we move in a few weeks will be living down the road to her so hopefully baby bird will have a little playmate.

Cannotbelieveit Tue 27-Aug-13 14:19:13

Bird it's lovely when you can share things with friends! I've only told 2 close friends and my parents that I'm preg again! Haven't told any of hubby's family yet x

catherine19 Tue 27-Aug-13 16:54:16

I can see lots of advantages to having babies close together, not for me though! I always wanted kids close. Around 18mth-2yrs but now I've been pregnant and hav a baby I want a bigger gap!

AmberLav Wed 28-Aug-13 04:45:02

It's funny, now that I'm on my second (with a 2 year age gap) I can see the advantage of just cracking on! A is lovely with E, but he is still very demanding, and doesn't always get that she needs me more some times - I think he'll be happier once she is moving round. Sometimes he's so big and strong that I worry she'll get crushed somehow (one of my cousin's kids broke her little brother's leg when he was not quite one!). Think A would have been fine is E had arrived a year earlier! Congrats Cannot! Not sure I'd be ready for anymore morning sickness yet!

Mumof3xx Wed 28-Aug-13 09:01:47

Congrats trish!

As I have now had num 3 I see advantages of a slightly longer age gap

Dc1 & 2 were born 16 months apart. My pregnancy with dc two was hardest of the three - I had spd and a baby who needed carrying and pushing in a pram, I was super tired so couldn't face making ds 1 homemade purees as I had with ds1 I was also very sickly and the smell of baby food made me want to be sick. Ds1 went from 8 to 16 months in a diet of cereal, tins of pasta, fruit and toast because I couldn't cope with the smell of other things!
My ds1 also had to grow up fast because at 16 months he wasn't a baby any more. He is now very independent which is nice but I wish I had had more one on one time with him. Ds2 was a very needy baby and screamed until he could crawl!
On the plus side they are now the best of friends, they share interests and play well together most of the time

Having dd four years after ds 2 I Feel I can enjoy her more as I'm not juggling two babies! The big two don't need much apart from food And the occasional referee lol

Part of me would love another but it's not practical for us and I want to enjoy dd As much as pos

Cannotbelieveit Wed 28-Aug-13 09:39:15

Pretty much everyone in both our families has small gaps, also I have a lot of help from family so I know we will be ok! grin

If I was someone who'd had a horrendous pregnancy I might have run a mile from it but pregnancy seems up agree with me and last time I was working full time as manager til 32 weeks (very stressful) this time I will only be working 3-4 months of it on 2-3 days per week.

Mumof3xx Wed 28-Aug-13 10:37:42

My middle pregnancy, and middle child were and are the most difficult lol I wonder if its a middle child thing or what!

Your lucky to have a lot of support. I was home alone most of the time with two little ones and on a mission to prove the world wrong about it being too much too soon too young! But then I am a stubborn mare!

Mumof3xx Wed 28-Aug-13 10:38:41

Funnily enough my middle pregnancy was also the only one I wasn't in employment for! I would never have coped if I had been!

Cannotbelieveit Wed 28-Aug-13 11:46:10

My area manager just phoned to say there are 2 part time jobs available so she will hold for me until December. It's worked out really well as now I will have a cushy little PT job to return to in January 2015 after 2nd maternity leave. And closer than me travelling back to bham from Stratford upon Avon, this will be in Solihull.

Mumof3xx Wed 28-Aug-13 12:04:13

Do you not go back to work til December?

Is it only me about to go back in sept lol?

Mama1980 Wed 28-Aug-13 12:14:52

Congratulations trish grin thanks Am thrilled for you all.

Cannotbelieveit Wed 28-Aug-13 12:41:46

Thanks Mama. We are waiting for more gorgeous pics of A on fb. How are you all getting on?

I wasn't actually due back at work til end of feb 2014 but was originally going back in January, so just bought it forward to December as I will be going off again march I think!

Mumof3xx Wed 28-Aug-13 12:48:08

I am jealous! Although I am only going bk part time and get to take baby with me lol

Mama1980 Wed 28-Aug-13 13:09:50

grin Will try to put some more pics up later I just never seem to get the time! We are all well thanks.
Alex is growing so fast it's incredible, is sitting easily now and has discovered that by moving his arms he can throw stuff! grin Usually food and usually everywhere! Though apple is still his clear favourite.
He had another check up last week and had a heart scan and lung function check and all was well. We have started swimming regularly which he loves in fact he loves everything (except sleep!) I think he's the happiest baby ever.
People who are still exclusively breast feeding have you found your supply has evened out? I still seem to have a huge oversupply.
I cannot believe its nearly autumn and he will be 1 in December smile dd is organising a party.

Cannotbelieveit Wed 28-Aug-13 13:57:52

Good to hear about How well he is doing! He's amazing' and so are you!! Looking forward to pics!

Apple is Hunter's favourite too!!

kellestar Wed 28-Aug-13 14:33:25

Mama, great to hear how Alex is doing!

My supply is still adjusting, depending on growth spurts and illness. My boob are taking a beating. W is so rough with them, he likes to twist the flesh, giving my nipple a Chinese burn. I also suffer with whiplash nipple too, where he is still latched on and quickly looks around at B with my nipple still firmly clamped in his jaws.

Mama1980 Wed 28-Aug-13 14:41:40

Hi kelle smile Alex is really rough too, it's worse now he can sit he tries to get himself up still attached to the boob. I just seem to have so much milk. Can I ask how often you are feeding? Alex is still every 2 hours pretty much 24/7 despite being on solids.

Mumof3xx Wed 28-Aug-13 18:34:38

Are any other babies sitting yet aside from Alex?

Dd still very wobbly whereas both brothers sat unsupported before five months

catherine19 Wed 28-Aug-13 20:17:44

Ds is very variable but can sit for up to a min but not often!

Cannotbelieveit Wed 28-Aug-13 20:46:45

H is not sitting yet x

AintNobodyGotTimeFurThat Wed 28-Aug-13 21:27:22

H is sitting for a while then just flops over bless her.

She loves her door bouncer though we tried it first today and she adores it!

She loves all sorts of foods (only been on fruit and veg purees so far) but anything with apple in she devours! smile

birdbrain21 Wed 28-Aug-13 23:10:07

haven't tried any solids yet but she definately knows what her milk looks like, I finished expressing a bottle and put it on the bedside table until I went to the kitchen, I picked her up and she saw the bottle and tried to wriggle out of my arms to get it with a really frantic look on her face!!
mama she feeds every 3 hours during the day and goes overnight.
She can't sit by herself but is definately trying, she sits up very well with someone behind her but falls over straight away by herself and when she's lying down she lifts her head up as though she's trying to sit by herself.
Now that she's learnt how to roll from back to front she seems to have forgotton how to get back again from her front and gets really frustrated.Anyone else forgotton how to roll?!

AmberLav Thu 29-Aug-13 04:28:31

My DS rolled front to back out 3.5months, 7 times one evening on holiday, then didn't do it again til he was nearly 5 months! He was also walking just holding our hand at 11.5 months, got a sickness bug, and completely forgot how to do it, and only got back to that stage at 13.5 months. Some babies will have little hold-ups, so don't be too surprised if it happens to you!

For me, second pregnancy was a lot worse than first, but second child is happier and less demanding than first...

catherine19 Thu 29-Aug-13 09:14:14

That's good to hav the warning amber! It is hard not to compare! I sometimes feel odd when out cos ds fits in with babies months older then him size wise but obviously isn't doing the same things! I tell people his age as soon as I can with the subtex of that's why he's not crawling/eating etc! Lol!

Mumof3xx Thu 29-Aug-13 14:44:42

Since dd rolled over a few times the other day she hasn't done it again lol age easily turns back to front as soon as put down but going front to back is rare

AmberLav Fri 30-Aug-13 05:44:48

We've always had tall children in our family, which makes them hard to compare to children of their own age, particularly when you see tinies race around playparks etc when your one is still clinging to your leg! There are 4 year olds the same height as 2 year old DS! Eve is exactly the same weight as her friend over the road who is 7 weeks older, and that little girl is sitting well, but not rolling so much as Eve! Thankfully every child is different (not that stops you being really proud when your baby is the first to do something!)

KeepTheFaithBaby Fri 30-Aug-13 08:15:19

Faithlet is so little (9th centile for weight and 25th for height) that people still think she's a newborn. I still get lots of Oh that's a very little baby! and I explain she's actually 4 months!

Mumof3xx Fri 30-Aug-13 08:39:08

Dd is always somewhere between 50th & 75th sometimes nearer to one than the other last time she was almost bang on 75th
I don't know any babies the same age in real life
Both her brothers were also between 50 and 75 although she is the lighter of the three even though she was the heaviest born!
Last time I went to baby weigh in it was full of small babies some of them were the same age As dd and they looked like she did as a newborn! My smallest baby was 7lb 9 so I can't imagine what it's like to have a tiny 5lber!

To those giving solids. When did you start? How many times a day are you giving them?
We have been giving baby rice once a day for a week now and she loves it! Plus it hasn't affected her milk intake which I'm happy about

AmberLav Fri 30-Aug-13 09:29:16

Random moment of self-congratulations - E has just settled herself off to sleep in her cot for the first time! It's mainly congratulations to her, but also to me for having the confidence to break out of the norm, as she normally naps in her bouncy chair. I think it took her less than 15 minutes to settle, with not too much grumbling!

E has settled to 75%, but she was born at like 99.1% or whatever it is up there. DS was the lightest one, at 9lbs 12ozs!

I'm waiting to start solids till we've been on our October holiday, and she'll be about 24 weeks by then...

catherine19 Sat 31-Aug-13 20:39:21

It's a good idea waiting till after ure hols the less stress and packing going away the better! Ds takes little bits of baby rice or purreed fruit but I don't think he's that bothered about it so I'm just giving something every so often he loves his milk so I'm not stressing abut it. I mostly started hi cos he kept grappling at food ad I didn't want his first food to b crisps!

KeepTheFaithBaby Sat 31-Aug-13 20:54:35

That's great news Amber, gives me hope! Faithlet's naps have improved the last couple of days. She's been more settled. I'm hoping its the winds of change!

AmberLav Sun 01-Sep-13 04:45:43

I think we may already have reverted on the nap training! Yesterday I put her down slightly too late for her morning nap, so she fought it hugely, although did have a few catnaps. So for lunchtime nap I went back to the chair as she was exhausted, and I figured a rested baby was more important than where she slept... she can throw herself arond so much more in the cot, and I didnt start DS' s nap training till he was 6 months...

Mumof3xx Sun 01-Sep-13 09:26:12

Dd has been very unsettled past 24 hours, she is 9 days before next wonder weeks leap so could be that I suppose she's very cranky and fighting sleep in the day but luckily slept well last night

Mumof3xx Sun 01-Sep-13 09:28:21

Dd only ever sleeps in her pram carrycot during the day however she only has a few weeks til moving to the seat unit so I may try cot naps then

birdbrain21 Sun 01-Sep-13 11:58:02

everyday naps are different here, somedays she settles really nicely and sleeps for an hour pkus at a time other days she screams herself to sleep and wakes up after 20mins! At the moment I don't rea;;y mind I prefer she sleeps well at night so I can sleep but I'm sure when DH starts his new job next week and I'm home all day alone with her (and trying to settle into our new flat which we haven't movec into yet!!) then I'll change my mind about daytime naps being anywhere anytime and try get her into a routine to keep my sanity wink
She started to recognise her food every time I lift my top up or she see's a bottle she starts grabbing with a desperate look on her face it's so cute!

catherine19 Sun 01-Sep-13 12:25:33

When ever I think we are started to get a pattern for naps ds changes his mind! I to don't mind so much as long as he keeps sleeping at nite! Last few days he's had 1hr am and 1hr in the afternoon. I've brought bedtime forward to as he kept getting really upset and falling asleep around 6-7 so now we try to keep him awake do bath around 7ish feed and bed at 7.30

Mumof3xx Sun 01-Sep-13 14:45:32

Dd has to nap every 2ish hours but only for about 30-45 mins at a time

She goes to bed between 7&8 pm and wakes up between 6&7am

Cannotbelieveit Mon 02-Sep-13 08:11:13

H manages 3 naps a day of about 30 mins to an hour! And he has last bottle at 7, then bed after and isn't up til 7.30-8.30am next morning x

Mumof3xx Mon 02-Sep-13 19:32:21

Dds sleeps today

Wake 6.30

Sleep 9.30-10
Sleep 11.30 - 12.10
Sleep 1.30 - 2
Sleep 4.30 - 5

Asleep in bed for 7.20

AmberLav Tue 03-Sep-13 01:54:09

As you can see, E decided that 1.30am was a good time to wake up! I did try to hold her in her cot to try to teach her to self settle better, but after 10 minutes of leaning over her in her cot, I've broken and resorted to feeding her! Oh well! It's annoying as she was consistently lasting till after 4am for a while...

Daytime naps are not too bad, met up today with friends for lunch up in London, and she slept over lunch time and a bit out and about. What I never understand is why she will sleep in her pram in restaurants, but wake as soon as we park in our hallway at home!

Mumof3xx Tue 03-Sep-13 07:15:42

Oh dear amber
My dd is the same re waking when we get home

Well I think I had eight straight hours of sleep, and don't feel any better for it!

catherine19 Tue 03-Sep-13 09:51:28

I once cut the shopping bags of the pram when I'd been shopping and ds had fallen asleep and I didn't want t wake him! Sad!

AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 03-Sep-13 11:42:11

hello ladies - sorry to butt in but I am looking for MNers to take part in an online group next week about weaning.
I'm specifically looking for first time parents with a baby aged 4-10 mnths who are starting to think about or wean onto solid food.
There's a prize draw for taking part. I can send you full details if you PM me smile
thanks very much......

catherine19 Tue 03-Sep-13 20:41:07

Hiya I'm interested in the weaning group x

AmberLav Wed 04-Sep-13 02:13:32

Thankfully they have restricted it to first timers, so I can't give my tuppence!

It's going to be a long week - normally I have DS at home Wed and Thurs, but he was sick briefly yesterday morning, so it's three days in a row this week, and on top if that, swimming class starts back tomorrow, and both will be in the water (at different times!) which I think will be knackering! Oh well!

kellestar Wed 04-Sep-13 07:19:36

W is so unpredictable for naps and I keep missing the signals sad

B was so predictable, I don't wear a watch and I could tell the time by her.

B is back to preschool, this time two mornings a week. Yesterday I managed to see W needs his nap and settled him easily and managed to clean the kitchen while he was out for the count. Then we had some nice play that challenges him a little bit. Made him nice and tired so he had another nap before we had to pick up B, I actually had a hot coffee and a biscuit! Today me and W are off to the NCT bumps and babes group whilst she is at preschool. The great thing is she really loves it and goes with glee.

He finally did a poo after 15 days of waiting. He got really sweaty and red faced squeezing it out. Made me chuckle with all his grunting smile much more settled now though and less smelly farts.

Mumof3xx Wed 04-Sep-13 07:51:58

Oh gosh 15 days! Is that normal for a bf baby?

Dd rarely goes more than 24 hours

HaveALittleFaith Wed 04-Sep-13 08:11:18

Faithlet will go a week between poos. Normal for a BF baby - they utilise virtually everything they take in so minimal waste. Faithlet has been like it ever since we left the hospital. She is going more often now she has a formula top up but that means three times a week!

Well we had great naps yesterday, awful sleep last night. Woke every 2-3 hours. I think she has a cold, very snuffly, fussing on breast at times. Woke at 5, didn't want to feed just to cuddle. Guess its nice to be needed?!

Jo1984uk Wed 04-Sep-13 16:15:55

Sofia is 5 months now, have not started weaning her yet but am trying to get prepared smile

I got the Graco tea time high chair yesterday from mothercare. Also bought a new pan steamer from sainsburys. Am thinking of doing baby led although debating whether to do a purée breakfast. I have started sitting her in the high chair with a spoon so she can practice getting it in her mouth, which she is surprisingly good at.

Can't wait now, getting quite excited smile

Still meaning to get on the face book group but Sofia is having 30 min naps so doesn't give me chance to do much!

Mumof3 Sofia sounds the same as your lo, she naps every 1.5-2 hrs roughly throughout the day.

She is sound asleep accross my lap at the mo, we have also been getting her to self sooth in her cot but she has had her last jab today and she's feeling a bit sorry for herself! so cuddles with mummy it is!

Faith your right it is lovely to be needed!! Not long now and our babes will be becoming a lot more independent.

Mumof3xx Wed 04-Sep-13 16:27:14

Dd is loving her food

So far she has had

Baby rice
Baby porridge
Banana

Going buying a steamer and new hand blender tomorrow so I can make a load of fruit and veg purees and freeZe them

Ill be doing a mix of puree and finger foods

AmberLav Thu 05-Sep-13 05:22:22

E is a 3-8 day poo'er, and she likes to wait for the most inopportune time, like on the way to swiming yesterday! It was pointed out to me that it would have been worse if she'd gone in the pool, which I conceded, but I figure if she's going to wait 6 days, she could at least squeeze it out at home!

Mumof3xx Thu 05-Sep-13 19:31:44

Well dd woke at 4.30am wanting milk (usually goes til at least 6.30) and so her routine is all higgly piggly today

She would normally take 5 bottles say -
7
10
1
4
7

But today has done

4.30
7.30
11
2.30
Now 7.30

Poor confused baba. Anyone else have days like this?

AmberLav Fri 06-Sep-13 04:41:59

We still don't really have a normal day yet, or not that I've noticed!

Cannotbelieveit Fri 06-Sep-13 11:18:02

Mumof3 we used to but then I found of he woke up earlier then usual then sometimes he wanted to play/watch his mobile etc also you could try giving water instead on an early wake up x

Mumof3xx Fri 06-Sep-13 18:58:00

She stired a bit last night but went bk to sleep with her dummy

catherine19 Sat 07-Sep-13 21:55:56

At times when ds wakes he just wants to play. Sometimes I just leave him I. His cot for a bit as long as he is happy! I find he won't hav his bottle first thing cos he is too happy and smilie!

Mumof3xx Sat 07-Sep-13 22:03:10

She wakes hungry though and will take a full 8oz so I don't think I could fob her off with water as she is properly hungry

She woke to be fed at 4.30 this morning too

She seems to so it every few weeks for a few days I think it ties in with the wonder weeks tbh, by the app she is 3 days before the 5th leap

She's taken 33oz today as well as porridge and carrot so she's taking plenty in! Will see if she's up early doors again! Hope not i need 8 hours!

birdbrain21 Sat 07-Sep-13 22:03:43

baby bird is normally quite regular with her feeds although she's suddenly started feeding every 2-2.5 hours again instead of 3!
She's showing a lot of signs of being ready to wean, she's nearly 21 weeks, so think I'm going to go and buy some baby rice tomorrow and see how it goes because I feel so mean to sit at the table and eat in front of her she tries to grab the food and then cries when I won't give her any! How do I wean?!?!?!?how many times a day to give her baby rice and how many times milk?!?

Mumof3xx Sat 07-Sep-13 22:06:00

Start of with just a spoonful of baby rice with dinner or tea

Same milk feeds

We are on week 3 and now having solids at breakfast and tea plus 30-35 oz formula

People say you should offer milk first so they aren't starving but dd prefers her food first I find!

AmberLav Sun 08-Sep-13 03:15:26

Weaning - I would suggest starting any new food type at the midday meal, as that way if there is any sort of adverse reaction (very unlikely) you have a few wakeful hours for it to happen in. Also ignore the baby whisperer if you follow her stuff - I remember reading the weaning chapter after I'd started it, and being amazed at her advice, although maybe she's good if there's family history of allergies...

I'm not a great fan of baby rice, but it is useful to bulk up runnier foods. Move onto more exciting things when you feel ready...

If you don't have allergies in the family and baby was full term and otherwise healthy, then chances are that baby won't have allergies as well, but use your common sense...

Jo1984uk Sun 08-Sep-13 03:46:05

Anyone else's baby's suddenly not like being passed around or being held by other people?

Sofia has been like this a few weeks now.. I'm sure she has separation anxiety already, I know they usually don't get it until around 7 months or so, but I think she has developed it early! She is fine when new people/ relatives who see her once a week or so, speak to her. They usually get smiles and she is quite content. However, as soon as they hold her she gets really upset!

She has a better social life than me so I know it's not that I don't take her out enough to socialise.

Anyways, got stingy eyes from first feed of night, apologies for any typos!

Mumof3xx Sun 08-Sep-13 07:13:06

Dd does prefer me and doesn't often kick off at those age sees a couple of times a week but isn't keen on anyone else

Jo1984uk Sun 08-Sep-13 10:07:41

Glad it's not just Sofia then mumof3.. She sees her nan and aunty (partners side) once a week but has started to get a bit upset when they hold her/ take her away from me!

Lol at baby E Amber, they do have great timing don't they! I thought we had a 'situation' in the pool the other day but it was just lots of wind!!

We started water babies last week, she loves it. Expensive but worth it smile