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November 2012 - We want rattles and we want them now

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StuntNun Mon 04-Feb-13 09:09:49
MadamGazelleIsMyMum Mon 04-Feb-13 09:24:39

marking place

Catbag Mon 04-Feb-13 09:40:43

waves to all as rushes out to uni

ValiumQueen Mon 04-Feb-13 09:43:55


PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 09:48:48

Marking place. We're slowing down. Almost a week since the last thread was started.

PurplePidjin Mon 04-Feb-13 10:10:23


PurplePidjin Mon 04-Feb-13 10:10:25


fruitpastilles Mon 04-Feb-13 10:21:52

Marking place!

BigPigLittlePig Mon 04-Feb-13 11:00:01

Hello new thread

kirrinIsland Mon 04-Feb-13 11:00:16

Marking place

katkit1 Mon 04-Feb-13 11:03:00

I never keep up anymore so thought I would say hi on page 1.

Pikz Mon 04-Feb-13 11:23:51

Rattles in

BigPigLittlePig Mon 04-Feb-13 14:20:51

<Applauds pass from old thread whilst singing jubilant song>

Passmethecrisps Mon 04-Feb-13 14:21:57

<beats chest and howls jubilantly>


Passmethecrisps Mon 04-Feb-13 14:23:02

Was it chunky who finished the last thread with a beautiful sentiment? I finished the last with a threat of violence. Go figure

zcos Mon 04-Feb-13 14:24:07

pass I bow to your superior thread ending skills!!
so everyone what shall I do about my house and v tidy friend coming round tomorrow - I am in bed with very awake 8 wk old dd who has no pattern yet to her days!

capedcrusader25 Mon 04-Feb-13 14:38:35

Thanks for the advice ladies, I did think it was my choice as to whether I did any. Cheeky bastards, I am not happy about it at all. I reckon O must be long then. She's in Up to 3 months in Tesco and Sainsburys and 0-3 in Next. But the size 4s fit her well, no indentation marks or poo leaks!
Is anybody else planning on doing gluten free weaning?? My mum did with me and my brother. We have a history in both my mum and dads family if gluten intolerance, etc ranging from coeliac to ulcerative colitis. And lots of IBS!

Elizadoesdolittle Mon 04-Feb-13 14:54:52

bplp E is still in size 1's and will be for quite sometime!

ValiumQueen Mon 04-Feb-13 14:54:58


DH has passed his driving test! He did not tell me he had it today. So relieved. It was costing a fortune, and he can now share nursery runs and will get more work. Thank fuck! We also have yellow poo, so hopefully this means boy is getting better.

Brockle Mon 04-Feb-13 15:00:52

hello, sniffly velcro child here, but a trip in the pram on the school run should send him off for long zonk. fingers crossed smile

Brockle Mon 04-Feb-13 15:01:13

ooh congrats Mr VQ grin

GTbaby Mon 04-Feb-13 15:02:38

Hello kit kat. I only keep up due to mild insomnia.

Zcos. You will get used to my mil rants! Nothing she does surprises me anymore. If I told u some things u would be shock

Well bathroom is sparkling.
Still have clothes on bed. But now LO is up it will have to wait till tomorrow.

You know what she always finds jobs to do or is critical of how much I do on days I have plans! Today I'm off to get hair cut.

fruitpastilles Mon 04-Feb-13 15:03:56

Yay for Mr VQ grin

fruitpastilles Mon 04-Feb-13 15:06:28

GT I'm so glad I don't have to deal with pil
I seriously don't know how you put up with her!

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Mon 04-Feb-13 15:17:17

Congrats Mr VQ. My DH passed his test a week before DD was born. It made such an enormous difference to our lives!

Passmethecrisps Mon 04-Feb-13 15:24:12

Awoohoo valiumking I really hope that gives you all a wee leg up

P woke up and cried so I picked her up. More crying and fist roaring. Popped her dummy in. Asleep on me. That almost never happens

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 15:25:07

Well done MrVQ

Passmethecrisps Mon 04-Feb-13 15:27:29

Really need a wee

zcos what is LO sleeping at night at the moment? M doesn't sleep through yet but I'm not really expecting her to yet. She's far too greedy grin

M wasn't happy with baby massage, she screamed and demanded boob. As soon as the class finished she was all smiles

ValiumQueen Mon 04-Feb-13 15:35:56

pass might even get him a wee leg over wink

StuntNun Mon 04-Feb-13 15:38:29

Well done on finishing the old thread Pass it was a hard fought battle! Tell me more about gluten-free weaning please.

We have a house! After accepting an offer on our current house last Monday, we have had our offer on a house accepted today. FC it will all go through and we will be moving in May, just in time for J to get a nursery at 6 months old. I won't be counting my chickens though since everything went pear-shaped last time we tried to move.

Jeez you lot can talk grin

Saw the hv this morning at exactly 13 weeks J is 13lbs 1oz and the horrible burn type sores on his bits and his thigh is thrush, she said to try a few days with just cotton wool and water for changing and leaving nappy off as much as possible, is that doesn't work then to go back to GP because he's also full to brim with snot and he's struggling with feeding/breathing again, brochiolitus really is a massive shit.

ValiumQueen Mon 04-Feb-13 15:39:21

He feels like a grown up now, apparently. At 42. Best start acting like one then! Thank you all for your congratulations. I will tell him when his head is back to normal size.

ValiumQueen Mon 04-Feb-13 15:45:11

Great news * stunt*

tits you have been given something for his thrush on his bum though? Water will not sort it, it needs clotrimizole or something! Please do not be fobbed off, with that or his breathing.

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 15:47:41

Tits LO has a dose of thrush too sad the cream the Dr gave me on Thursday isn't shifting it.

I agree bronchiolitis is evil.

horseylady Mon 04-Feb-13 15:48:57

Size three teats caused massive vom session.

Now what do I do??!!! Take them back and try vari flow? Try in a week?!

GTbaby Mon 04-Feb-13 16:02:29

Horsy this teat stuff is confusing.
LO has 4 size 1 teats n 2size 2.
I use them all during a day.
He drools alot with size 2.
Det mentioned her LO stopped with size three. So tempted to try those out... Or may jut buy one pack n see of ty suit before buying 6.

fruitpastilles Mon 04-Feb-13 16:11:13

GT, I just got 1 pack of size 3's to begin with, they were much better and it was a pain in the bum then when I didn't have 6! If u get 6 at least if he doesn't use them straight away you have them for when he needs them, so they won't be a waste either way.

Apart from dribbling, we didn't have any vom with the size 3 teats.

ChunkyChicken Mon 04-Feb-13 16:17:51

Bloody Call the bloody Midwife. Watching on iPlayer so only on ep2 but in floods again. Bloody stupid bloody baby stories. Don't know why I do it to myself.

Oh and woo hoo MrVQ & yes, pass think it was me with the smiling & cooing baby, fred before last... grin

zcos I have a 'stepford wife' neighbour. Perfectly clean house, cream carpet with a 3yo DD, who wears white jeans without getting them stained etc. I have heard her shout at her DD (through the walls, they are quite thin) & say some not v nice things to her on occassion, in the heat of the moment. What I'm saying is, nobody is perfect. Do what you can get done, maybe make sure you have clean cups for tea, declutter where you'll be sitting a little & a clean loo & leave it at that. A true friend wouldn't judge.

Pikz Mon 04-Feb-13 16:20:37

For thrush all that properly worked was daktarin mouth gel and timcolo bum cream. Looked so much better after 24 hrs and all gone after 3 days. Have to finish 7 day course.

Horsey when we went from size 1 to size 2 I had to keep trying them each week til he was happy. Also found had to use size 1 at night for a few nights longer.

Pikz Mon 04-Feb-13 16:21:23

Woop woop mr VQ very cool!!

TheDetective Mon 04-Feb-13 16:23:41

Fuck a duck VQ!! There's gonna be a party of some description! in Valium Castle tonight!

Remember the feeling of getting them passed! The utter relief of never having to drive with the twat again!! that life would be so much easier! I did it with ex DP and DP. Must be mental. Nearly killed both of them and them me, with their driving 'skills'!.

Nappies - size 2 here. Mostly because I'm a stingy cow. Get 42 size 2 nappies for same price as just 30 size 3 grrrr. So he can stay in the 2's as long as bloody possible! The 3's are waaaaay bigger too. We have a pack and used 2 of them as there were no 2's in store. Well, they were near his nipples! Once he is in size 3 I'll order a big box of them from kiddicare.

Oscar has possetted more since having size 2 teats. Its about the same with size 3. He doesn't do a lot, just small bits. It's trapped wind that causes the full on projectile voms usually! Anyway the 3's have changed my life!! Literally! Feeds are more pleasurable as he is much faster 10-15 mins, as opposed to 30-45 minutes. Less fussing too.

Does anyone find it difficult to get them to take a proper feed when out? He never takes a full feed, and I often have to wake him or he will end up not having enough in the day thus waking up more at night!. Or he wakes and starts crying and you know he wants a feed. Then by the time you have found somewhere to sit and feed him he's gone back to sleep, then I have to wake him...

TheDetective Mon 04-Feb-13 16:24:07

Fuck a duck VQ!! There's gonna be a party of some description! in Valium Castle tonight!

Remember the feeling of getting them passed! The utter relief of never having to drive with the twat again!! that life would be so much easier! I did it with ex DP and DP. Must be mental. Nearly killed both of them and them me, with their driving 'skills'!.

Nappies - size 2 here. Mostly because I'm a stingy cow. Get 42 size 2 nappies for same price as just 30 size 3 grrrr. So he can stay in the 2's as long as bloody possible! The 3's are waaaaay bigger too. We have a pack and used 2 of them as there were no 2's in store. Well, they were near his nipples! Once he is in size 3 I'll order a big box of them from kiddicare.

Oscar has possetted more since having size 2 teats. Its about the same with size 3. He doesn't do a lot, just small bits. It's trapped wind that causes the full on projectile voms usually! Anyway the 3's have changed my life!! Literally! Feeds are more pleasurable as he is much faster 10-15 mins, as opposed to 30-45 minutes. Less fussing too.

Does anyone find it difficult to get them to take a proper feed when out? He never takes a full feed, and I often have to wake him or he will end up not having enough in the day thus waking up more at night!. Or he wakes and starts crying and you know he wants a feed. Then by the time you have found somewhere to sit and feed him he's gone back to sleep, then I have to wake him...

No Detective, my girls are greedy monsters despite only weighing 12lbs at 18 weeks. They scream for milk every 3 hours and God help you if you haven't found a place for them to have their milk. Then people want to come and coo at them and ask you a million questions while you are trying to feed two hungry babies. They ALWAYS remind me when it is milk time.

Pikz Mon 04-Feb-13 16:27:49

Timodine even... Bloody autocorrect

horseylady Mon 04-Feb-13 16:32:50

He's inverting the teat and bending it on the 2's now. Feeds taking about 45mins? Which is you go to a group and he wants feeding is the group lol. Someone suggested changing bottles just to see?? Just he literally bought up the feed as we were going? Was horrid. Changed back to 2's and he was ok again?

PennieLane Mon 04-Feb-13 16:36:11

Congrats Mr vq

fatima exactly same here this morn at baby massage, everyone else's babies were well behaved! Nice to chat to other women though!

Off to catch up on old thread...

Passmethecrisps Mon 04-Feb-13 17:01:41

The test thing is weird. P's milk is slightly thickened so we have been on size 2s for ages. I had 2 size 3s in the house (thank you tommee tippee starter kit) and tried her with those. Great! Took more milk, less fussing and less dribbling.

detective p is pretty easily distracted from food so going out can easily mean accidentally missing a feed. Then if I try to feed her she is so distracted by what is around her it can be hard. I actually avoid feeding her anywhere but home because she can be so difficult to fee sometimes. As she eats every two hours it can make leaving the house tricky.

Catbag Mon 04-Feb-13 17:03:59

Congratulations to valiumking! I learned to drive at 24, living in a rural hamlet with no bus service and two small kids in tow. Changed my life.

My two are in just4bums size 3 nappies (the kiddicare ones), but I wonder if they are on the bigger side since R is 12lb 8oz and S is 11lb 1oz and someone else mentioned being in size 4 at 12lb?

I am another one that waffles non-stop at my babies. I like talking to them though and I think it is good for them! I have also been known to dance and sing like a tuneless nutter.

Izzybuzzybuzzybees Mon 04-Feb-13 17:04:13

I'm back...again. Will try keep up. Can't see it working though.

horseylady Mon 04-Feb-13 17:11:33

Pass wondering whether to buy something like that? He was so easy to change from1-2 but I knew he needed to go up. This time he's had difficult days but ok days. Perhaps I'll wait till know again?

I feed him out. He spends a lot if time breaking from eating and smiling. He does that at home too though!!

capedcrusader25 Mon 04-Feb-13 17:12:01

stunt my cousin is coeliac and was very, very poorly as a baby when weaned (before the diagnosis). She was hospitalised. Along with her my family on both parents' side seem to have a lot if digestion and intolerance issues. My mum weaned me and my little brother on a gluten free diet when we were younger as gluten is a main offender. She's advised I do the same so will be doing. It's just to avoid any unnecessary digestive issues at such a young age and to give the system chance to really mature so if there is an intolerance it can better deal with it with or without treatment.

capedcrusader25 Mon 04-Feb-13 17:12:51

Plus these things are hard to diagnose. So if she has a gluten free diet and then gluten introduced and problems start it may be easier to assess the situation.

Catbag - M is 12lb and only just gone into the size 3s this weekend. It must depend onthe baby's shape and the brand of nappies.

Just had a complete wanker driver following me, he nearly caused two accidents in two minutes. Tempted to start a thread about him. Twat

Passmethecrisps Mon 04-Feb-13 17:37:34

Do it fatima!

The tommee tippee starter kit was such a great buy. Cost us £59.99 and had loads and loads of stuff in it. For having to give up on BF it was great to already have all the kit there - steam steriliser, microwave steriliser, 2 lots of teats of each size, 2 insulated bottle bags, various bottles, bottle caps, powder measures and so on.

I think we will gradually replace all our teats over the next few weeks and replace them with size 3s. The nutramigen formula reaks and the smell just won't come out the teats - they smell rancid.

I have a baby sleeping on my knee again! What is going on? She has barely been awake today. I was completely exhausted yesterday and then today have been feeling horrid.

The cat has joined the pile as well.

ChunkyChicken Mon 04-Feb-13 17:37:45

Ok, getting a bit freaked out. Is this normal 12wo/post growth spurt behaviour? A went 4+hrs earlier from start of feed to feed at lunch, & now we're on 4hrs 22mins and counting. And most of that has been asleep. I'm in for a shit night aren't I??!!!

horseylady Mon 04-Feb-13 17:40:25

I don't think variflow will help reading about it.

Will try again next week or try a different bottle if it's not working. Mam might be worth me looking at as they do 330ml bottles. Which considering he's having 9oz at two feeds now I might need it!

TheTiger Mon 04-Feb-13 17:43:06

Well I have a few days away from MN and miss a thread!! Can anyone summarise for me because I will never, ever catch up!

Well done V King, he must be pleased with himself!

chunky I've just watched call the midwife too. Not as bad as last week's sobfest!

Teats: I am using size 2 Dr Brown's ut he has started messing with his feeds so I am wondering whether to go up to size 3s. Anyone else using Dr B's? His milk has gaviscon in so it's a bit thicker than normal C&G.

Nappies: just moved into size 4 pampers, after several poo explosions in size 3s. The size 4s are 15 - 40lbs, which seems like a huge weight range! He is 15+4 now and 15 pounds 5oz last week! That's between 50th and 75th centile. He's 75th centile for height. My big boy!

I'm trying to implement a 'routine' of 6 feeds between 7am and 11pm, but he's still waking up at 3-4 ish for another one. I think because he only takes 3-4 ounces for a couple of his daytime feeds. Doing a bedtime routine of bath, massage, feed. Just hoping for a lovely 6 hour stretch of sleep any day now!

zcos Mon 04-Feb-13 17:44:34

congrats Mr vq passing driving test is on my to do! ... I started learning 15 years ago and bother with trains yesterday just makes me want to do it more when I started lessons again 6 years ago and dh passed I gave up...wish it wasn't so expensive.
been in bed mist of day with dd who would not sleep and started wailing at 4.30 come my tears ... thoughts I'm a bad mum etc ... and worked out after an hour she was bored ... and wanted to play! sad
dh home now so nap then blitz house 7 mins per room downstairs ... lucky its not a big house ...
also thouggt I got a bargain sling on eBay then looked after associated with baby deaths.
gt I am intrigued tell me more bout mil by own mum is the worst ... when she came to see me at home day after dd was born she exclaimed ... but you look 6 months pregnant!! I went back flat straight away!! angry
I'm v interested in intolerance etc I have suffered with IBS for 10 years!

capedcrusader25 Mon 04-Feb-13 17:55:49

It's hard to find gluten free things now, lots of foods had to change their gluten free status due to stricter EU regs or something. Lots if gluten fee foods were actually found not to met the right standards. I've found cow & gate to have a fair bit, Ella's kitchen and Organix too (if you but this stuff to start off with). Heinz not so much! Obviously fresh fruit and veg is gluten free.

blonderthanred Mon 04-Feb-13 18:49:05

Hello new thread, wow I have missed a lot already.

Congratulations ValiumKing ! DH (35) passed his while I was pg. 3rd time. He had always said he would learn before we started a family but it was only when he needed to get his licence for his job. It's not easy to learn when you're older I think so jolly well done.

We are in size 1 Pampers and TotsBots Teenyfits. And 0-3 clothes. And size 2 teats.

Eliza how is E doing? L has come on since I started the top ups and put on 230g this week so we are back on the 0.4 line woo hoo!

Chunky (was it chunky?) I think you have to have the jabs a minimum of 4 weeks apart so you can't have them early.

Hello katkit <waves>

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 19:20:41

Hmm. Tough afternoon with LO. DD1 seems ok. I'm knackered.

Evilwater Mon 04-Feb-13 19:44:39

Congrats VQ! Such freedom, having a car is the best thing ever.

We are on Size three teat, with size three nappies.

Jabs tomorrow, I hate them. So I'm in for a grumpy day, at least the weather will be bad.



Well done mr vq bless him for keeping it a secret!!!

Dottie is in size 2 nappies at night and several size 1's during the day cos they keep appearing all over the house we'll be ok for size 3's for a while as we were given a nappy cake and there's blumming hundreds of them all rolled up!!!

We have avent bottles with size 2 teats and tomee tippee bottles with size one cos I keep forgetting to buy the next ones up

We had a fab time in Manchester and Dottie was soooooo good and everyone fell in love with her lol and she was amazing on the drive there and back bless her!!!

Got a study day at work tomorrow - its just recapping obstetric emergencies, safe guarding, infant feeding and documentation so Dottie is spending her first day with the childminder eeeeeeeek!!! Hope I've got everything she'll need!!!!

Does anyone else's LO refuse to lie/recline in your arms?? Dottie has to be upright and facing forwards. I think she's going to be like Tallulah and refuse cuddles and general soppiness unless it's at her request lol

She's still doing 3/4 poos a day and they're v wet and runny and of varying hues of brown lol wish she would go back to once every four days!!! She's still very very dribbly could this be making her poo this often??

ValiumQueen Mon 04-Feb-13 19:59:58

Please hold my hand. DH has gone to Tesco with my car. MY car! In the dark. And it is snowing. This is worse than the first day at school.

daisychain76 Mon 04-Feb-13 20:02:22

Hi, well done mrvq.

Back at work now sad. Had to go into city and teach a group on Saturday. First time leaving H for so long (6 hours). Sat down on train home and realised there‘d been, ahem, rather a lot of leakage resulting in a very large, very noticeable damp patch on my top (breast pads had slipped). Really hoping it happened after l‘d left my students blush

Glenda I am a childminder and this is what I would want if I were going to be looking after your DD.

2 or 3 Muslins
Change of clothes (including 3 or so vests)
Bottles (I usually ask for 2)
Comforter (is she has one)
A couple of bibs
Expressed milk (I order what ever formula the child takes, this come from their free milk entitlement.

I usually keep these in the playroom. Each child has their own storage box & place to hand their coat. I ask parents to replace nappies & wipes when they running low. I also keep the other items and wash them as needed.

Good luck for tomorrow!

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Mon 04-Feb-13 20:16:49

vqi felt exactly the same when DH took my car out after passing his test. Think how much worse it will be when it's one of the DC!

ValiumQueen Mon 04-Feb-13 20:19:19

True madame

fruitpastilles Mon 04-Feb-13 20:19:57

We have jabs tomorrow to evil hmm

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 20:22:07

LO has temp of 39.2. Have given her paracetamol and stripped her down to vest. She's not eating brilliantly but is eating. Could it be linked to last Thursday's jabs? Whimpering a bit and breathing quite fast but doesn't seem to be struggling to breathe iyswim. Crap. Crap. Crap.

blonderthanred Mon 04-Feb-13 20:25:38

Oh VQ I feel your pain!

I spoke to my mat cover person today to see if she can cover me an additional month as I realised going back at 6 months will be just as weaning and clinginess starts. Yet to start negotiations on part time/job sharing.

blonderthanred Mon 04-Feb-13 20:29:12

PR sorry but I would have expected a temp from jabs to come up within 24 hrs.

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 20:34:22

She's also a little droolier than usual. Blowing bubbles iyswim. Oh well. Will see how she goes and take her to the Dr if necessary tomorrow sad

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 20:35:34

It was 37.7 this morning. I hate it that she can't tell me what is wrong.

I started a thread earlier but only got one response so far, if you're bored feel free to contribute grin

ChunkyChicken Mon 04-Feb-13 20:39:07

Can you starve a baby? I mean, obviously you can if you ignore crying but DS has fed SOOOOO little today (relatively). We're on only his 6th feed since half 9 last night, and the 5th feed was only because he was getting grumpy so I shoved a boob in his mouth...

Thanks rowing & blonder. I'll have to phone nxt wk & book for 4wks from then then (they can only book up to 4wks in advance).

tiger my LO is tracking along just above the 50th. I'm amazed to think that by 3mths, he could have doubled his birth weight (6lb 15oz). There is a huge weight range for the nappies - my DD's bum is quite ample, so despite being only on the 9th centile until about 5mths, she often needed a bigger sized nappy.

Are those Kiddicare nappies ok? The reviews I read suggested they leak a fair bit.

BigPigLittlePig Mon 04-Feb-13 20:40:05

Oh pr you poor thing. I hope she gets better quickly.
Well done Mr VQ - hope he gets back from the shops in one piece!

LO has her 1st jabs on Thursday, then we're going to meet the childminder. I'm not looking forward to Thursday, not at all.

blonderthanred Mon 04-Feb-13 20:42:42

I think the drooliness and bubbles is fairly standard - we've had a lot of that for the last few weeks. But I would keep an eye on temp. Really really hope it is just a little blip and all is well by the morning.

ChunkyChicken Mon 04-Feb-13 20:48:36

Agree with blonder, PR on both temp & drooling. Iirc blowing bubbles is one of the developmental steps on the path to talking.<<hugs>>

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 20:54:24

She's just gulped down 150ml so she can't be tooooo ill can she. Fingers crossed. Though she has just pooed and I only put the suppository in an hour ago. Damn.

kirrinIsland Mon 04-Feb-13 20:56:04

Congratulations mrVQ

Oh no PR I hope she feels better soon.

We are in size 2 pampers, and size 2 avent teats. I'm just packing away the last of her 0-3 clothes. She is 12 weeks today.

I realised how dull my life has become today, when I went to the doctors, the bank and New Look and considered it to be a good day!

Sophiathesnowfairy Mon 04-Feb-13 20:56:15

Well done mr queen that's fab news

Good news in the stunt house too. Has the new house got the extra bedroom and reception room that you wanted?

Did soft play today, due to my rubbish winding positioning with O he managed to posset in my boot!! confused

horsey I have moved on to size three teats this evening. So far so good. Nothing could better regurgitated milk in ones boot. He was falling asleep half way through a feed on size twos. Although I have always gone from two to variable flo with the others so we will see.

On a downer about the potty training again. Was raised AGAIN by the ILs last night when we skyped with them and I feel they are all talking about what a rubbish mother I am because DS1 is 2 and 6 months and still in nappies. I have tried to stress that I have no help and I am on my own trying to do it, except at the weekend of course, so with a newborn that needs regular feeding it is impossible. Apart from the fact that I sit DS1 on the loo and he does nothing, but he would come away and have an accident. I just don't think he can control that muscle yet.

Now I am getting myself more and more stressed about it and am worried that he will never get it and I will be exposed in my crapness. To make it worse there was a thing about it on This Morning saying loads of kids having to go to school in nappies. That's going to be me isn't it? sad

kirrinIsland Mon 04-Feb-13 21:01:39

No I'm not - I'm just packing away the last of her new born clothes! baby brain!

ValiumQueen Mon 04-Feb-13 21:06:15

PR unlikely the jabs, but I am no expert. So sorry. Remember she is bigger and stronger x

DH and car home and intact. Good times!

MissMummy1 Mon 04-Feb-13 21:08:16

Marking place. Nothing really do chat/brag/vent about.

M has her first jabs tomorrow too.

DP hates his current job more every day to the point he is becomming miserable. Everything crossed he gets the new one he's had his heart set on for at least the 3 years I have known him.

Congrats Valiumking !

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 21:08:20

Wow that poonami improved her mood somewhat at least!

horseylady Mon 04-Feb-13 21:10:35

He fed happily with the 2's again so will stay as we are and maybe try next week. I'm not worried think I was just worried he was getting tired feeding. He ate 9oz in 25 mins so.....

Sophia my niece was nearly 3. My sil kept trying buy she just wasn't interested. 2.6 isn't too old. The more stressed you get about it, the worse itll be. Im a big believer that they will eventually do it. Just keep encouraging!! I always remember being about 10 and going to the shop to buy some sweets or something. This woman pulled a potty out in the shop and sat her son on it. Now that was strange!! Why carry a potty with you?!

BigPigLittlePig Mon 04-Feb-13 21:12:15

Sophia it won't be you, bless you. ILs are a pain, everyone knows that - try to ignore them. Your ds will just get it one day, and you'll wonder what all the fuss was about. If he's not ready yet, all the encouragement in the world won't help. Just enjoy your LO, and not having to mop up the floor, and tackle potty training another day thanks

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 21:14:02

Sophia my mil has been going on and on about potty training since dd1 turned 1. Literally started talking about it on her birthday. I have still mot started at 22 months and each time she brings it up am putting her off another month in my head.

The longer you leave it the easier it will be communication wise. And you're busy with a nb atm, so won't be able to give it your full attention, which wouldn't help your daughter.

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 21:14:53


ValiumQueen Mon 04-Feb-13 21:17:16

sophia you are being a wonderful mummy by not pressuring your son to potty train. DD2 is 3 in April and is in nappies. She will stop when she is ready. I wholeheartedly agree you are doing the right thing so fuck what anyone else says!

Sophiathesnowfairy Mon 04-Feb-13 21:19:06

Thanks everyone. I have been really low about it all day. Just popped over to the potty training threads and most seem to do it more successfully after 2.6.


fruitpastilles Mon 04-Feb-13 21:19:14

Sophia, he will get it when he is good and ready! My friends little boy will be 3 in April and he has no interest in potty training whatsoever, she has tried with him but he just gets stressed as well as her and it was doing them no good. She says she will know when he is ready, and you will with your son aswell. Ignore the il's they are a pain in the backside!

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 21:21:18

Boys are later than girls anyway for potty training. Do it when you're good and ready.

TheDetective Mon 04-Feb-13 21:42:22

The day DS1 was ready was the day I found him stood up peeing in the loo at my friends house. hmm. It was like he just went 'oh yeah, that's what it's for... Go on then!' I didn't toilet train him until that day. And it was pretty much a case of him training himself and me worrying myself silly over him wetting himself. He only did that a handful of times. Poos on the other hand, well, that took a little longer, and a lot of pants! He was 2.7 when he was dry, poos took about another 3 months to get him reliably not soiling himself. They will do it in their own sweet time. Fuck anyone who says differently!

daisychain76 Mon 04-Feb-13 21:43:09

Sophia l didn‘t start with dd til 2 weeks before 3rd birthday ~ treating your LO as an individual and doing it at the right time for your family makes you a fab mum. l had to invent a nappy fairy who took away all the nappies for new babies and left a note and pressie!

zcos Mon 04-Feb-13 21:49:48

I love the nappy fairy idea! Will have to remember that one and this post ... My mum claims I was potty trained v early ... Same as everything else!!

Sophiathesnowfairy Mon 04-Feb-13 21:50:48

I like the nappy fairy idea.

In my heart I know he will do it when he is ready.

I like my ILs and I want them to like me but I think over this they just think I am poo. All the nephews/nieces have been done really early and I, and DS1 are being compared at the mo and that I can't do anything right.

Then again this could be Mirena induced paranoia. I will keep my eye on it I think.

Kyzordz Mon 04-Feb-13 21:57:38

Marking place very late! Congrats on the pass mrvq

Hope LO is alright PR think you've had enough of poorlies to last a while now!

LO has jabs tomorrow, he's 13 weeks tomorrow. Can't remember who said they had brother max thermometer. That's the one I have and it's always lying to me. I have another one, came with TT travel set so I'll use that. Will also pick up a forehead one tomorrow, remember mum using one years ago for the kids.

LO is in size 4 nappies now, was 13 6 at 10 weeks, weigh in will be tomorrow but I don't want to take him after his jabs as I doubt he'll be in The mood for it to be honest! Just about to feed him now, hoping to keep up with this thread a bit better than the last one!

MissMummy1 Mon 04-Feb-13 22:02:25

sophia it is a horrible feeling being comapred and belittled by ILs. Mine only started acknowledging me as anything other than DP's midlife crisis when I got pregnant hmm. They are very forthcoming with their criticisms. (not strictly fair actually, FIL is lovely..) Stuff them and do what works for you and your gorgeous kids smile .

StuntNun Mon 04-Feb-13 22:04:46

Thanks for the gluten-free info Caped. My DS2 is currently under investigation for digestive problems so it might be an idea for me to be more careful when weaning J (when the time comes).

Sophia the new house has four bedrooms so DS1 and DS2 won't have to share any more and J will have a room to go into. The extra reception room will be a playroom for the boys. On the subject of potty training, my DS1 was trained at 3.5 years. Because he was ready for it, i.e. the neural development was already complete, it only took a week to go from nappies to trained. If you start earlier then you can still toilet train them but the process takes longer. Remember girls can usually be toilet trained earlier than boys as well.

PetiteRaleuse Mon 04-Feb-13 22:12:16

So I had my last dose of Cerazette on Saturday night before my realisation of what it was doing. 48 hours on I feel half human again. Just got to make sure I don't get up duffed before snip happens.

BigPigLittlePig Mon 04-Feb-13 22:16:34

I'm hoping little pig will follow in her mummys footsteps when it comes to toilet training. My grandparents bought me some "big girl knickers" which I loved (so I'm told). What I failed to grasp was that they had zero absorbancy. I was apparently mortified/distraught/hysterical when I innocently went for a wee, only to find myself stood in a puddle with soggy big girl knickers. It was the one and only time I wet myself blush.

I do recall some family friends who had 2 boys, and when the 2nd was toilet trained they used to wee at the same time, having odd competitions which resulted, often, in them weeing on the floor and it coming through cracks in the floorboards (old house) and dripping into the kitchen. Got to love boys!

LO self settled tonight in her crib, so I'm feeling a bit redundant. Going to go to bed, and cross everything for a nice few hours kip deserve it after epic cluster feed this evening

Night all <<sprinkles sleepy dust>>

capedcrusader25 Mon 04-Feb-13 22:25:13

I'm a knob - LO is in size 3 nappies not size 4! I worry about me sometimes.

Brockle Mon 04-Feb-13 22:32:29

my SIL tried Portugal training when her SD was a year as her CM said she trained hers at 6 months! she went on and on about it but he 2.11 and in middle of toilet training now. they get it when they are ready. my DS2 poked on the lop from 22 months but didn't get weeing in the loo until about s year after that smile

Brockle Mon 04-Feb-13 22:33:02

sorry potty not Portugal!

YellowWellies Mon 04-Feb-13 22:36:09

OK I missed the last thread by virtue of dropping the tablet - took it to John Lewis today to argue for a replacement and it miraculously recovered at the customer services desk. Oh the shame - mad new mother stereotype fulfilled blush

Will try to catch up! Short summary from us - put an offer in on a fab family home - we find out tomorrow.... Jonas is sleeping again now he's back in the swaddle (7hrs straight last night) so we're chickening out of the sleeping bags for a while. Finally my wee prem niece is in hospital with the cursed broncalitus (spelling?) sad she seems to be responding well to treatment thank goodness - am selfishly v paranoid that Jonas might have been exposed but he seems well.

ChunkyChicken Mon 04-Feb-13 22:48:24

I would think it was an April baby thing regarding potty training if I didn't know a chid who is 4days older than dd and dry... But my dd shows no interest really sophia & she's the same age as vqs dd, despite a drawer full of lovely knickers a thirty-fucking pound bloody potty FFS!! She still happily walks round with a nappy full of poo sad I've bought the £1.41 nappies (20 of them) from Sainsburys in the hope got they are slightly less absorbent and she'll notice doing a wee more.

DS was bought the Braun Thermoscan in-ear thermometer for Christmas. Brilliant. Dead easy to use and seems accurate. Pretty pricey though and the tip covers are a bit steep too.

Sleeping bag seems to have stretched A to going over 8hrs last night. But given he's done a 4hrly & 5hrly stint today, I doubt we'll have such a good one tonight, so off to bed. Night all!!

Elizadoesdolittle Mon 04-Feb-13 23:04:11

Oh bloody hell, typed long post and lost it...stupid lap top.

In summary, has 2nd set of jabs tomorrow.

Congrats mrvq. DH can't drive and I know when -if- he eventually learns i'll be nervous as hell whenever he uses the car.

Waves to blonder E is being weighed on wednesday. Shes's not doing too bad. I've been really bad though as not topped her up for a while. I was having to do it by syringe and she cried all th time during it and it just became too unpleasant for both of us. Will update as to how much she has gained on wednesday. Sounds like L is coming on in leaps and bounds. You must be very relieved.

GTbaby Mon 04-Feb-13 23:06:18

Chunky I have also noticed that LO is not taking a full feed regularly. N has gone 4 n half hours twice today shock

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 00:00:04

Wtf. Today I am experiencing what u all call a Velcro baby! I put him down n he cries n won't sleep. Not even with a dummy.
But when I hold him he knocks out.

Oh dear.

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 01:24:00

Seriously? I'm alone tonight shock

I'm glad ur all having a good night!

Guess I better sleep too!

PurplePidjin Tue 05-Feb-13 02:08:11

I'm in, been at work then sleeping! But i know nothing about what anyone is asking about, sorry sad

Got my lesson brief for the job, will be teaching it next Tuesday <yikes>

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 02:52:47

So what topic? Age range? We can give vu ideas?

ChunkyChicken Tue 05-Feb-13 03:51:12

7 & 1/4hrs is good but not good enough smile

Pikz Tue 05-Feb-13 04:13:40

5hrs then 4hrs. He drains a 6oz EBM bottle at each feed so clearly hungry. Clearly the 7hrs last week was a fluke. He is dead set now on a midnight and 4am feed.

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 04:17:48

I can only dream of that chunky J just did 4 hours, which is wonderful but his breathing sounds horrid.

PurplePidjin Tue 05-Feb-13 04:18:19

Music. Mixed ability Y6. Composition. I'm thinking pop stuff, 4 basic notes, write a catchy chorus. Then extend to add percussion instruments, write a verse or two, add the chords etc. Maybe start off talking about x factor/bgt and at the end they perform to the class and I'll ask the audience for 2 Cheryls (positives) and a Simon (area for improvement)

Adele 'Someone like you' fits the 4 chord pattern, think Olly Murs 'Troublemaker' does but I'll need to check 5minutes on the piano there's loads of others smile

Why am i thinking about this when i need to sleep? Serves me right for checking my email on night feeds angry

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 05:24:31

I've been woken 3 times by FH since last posting. Fuming.

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 05:35:48

N now LO has demanded milk.
1- got up to get a drink. And fell on to bed.
2- his alarm went off but he didn't wake
3- sat down on bed to put sock on and say on my foot.

Pp do you have a lesson plan pro former to fill in? i can email you mine. Have you requested student details? Ie special needs? Have you thought about different abilities in the class? Do you know what other things they have learnt this year. Sry if I'm being patronising. Just asking all the questions I would ask if I went on an interview.

PurplePidjin Tue 05-Feb-13 05:45:36

No, yes please, email came this afternoon so i haven't responded yet smile not patronising, necessary!!!

Fh needs to be left with baby and bottle and told to man the fuck up.

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 05:55:19

Argh. I can't sleep now.

PM me your email. Ill send it today. If I have not sent it by the end of the day though REMIND ME! Lol. Im Very forgetful ATM.

Come on sleep. LO fx should sleep till 9.30. I bed to sleep too!

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 06:09:55

Well LO slept through but her temp is 38.6 this morning. I think my Dr expects me to take her in with just a fever after 3 days if no improvement. The only other symptomistyat she's in a bad mood and a bit whimpery.

She slept through though, I so was not expecting that.

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 06:30:51

PR. can you call your dr and double check? My dr has them in straight away with a temp.

And hmm I'm still awake.

TheDetective Tue 05-Feb-13 06:33:05

PR I would definitely get her seen, with a temp over 38 and little improvement. Xxx

pidj Sounds wonderful to me, but go with MrS GT's advice lol! As a musical kid, I'd of loved it.

TheDetective Tue 05-Feb-13 06:39:52

It's my night for feeds tonight. Oscar has done 9-6.15. I went to bed after his last feed. Plus had a nap yesterday evening for the first time in forever. Feel so much more human.

Of course I woke at 5 panicking at no wakey baby. blush

I wonder why he sleeps 7-8hrs some nights, but barely 4 on others. confused I've got an experiment to try today.

DP will be envy when he wakes! Maybe I should tell him I've had a crap night?! grin

TheDetective Tue 05-Feb-13 06:51:55

GT Go to sleep, go to sleep, why the fuck won't you go to sleep sung to the tune of, fuck. I don't know. It's some famous nursery rhyme that I've changed the words because I can't remember them too. Might be Brahms lullaby.

TheDetective Tue 05-Feb-13 06:55:45

Taking my own advice and going the fuck back to sleep!

kirrinIsland Tue 05-Feb-13 07:16:02

With apologies to those who DHs/DPs who are less than impressive.....

DP did the night shift last night with the ebm I was saving for my trip up north tonight, but i'll worry about that later and the little minx slept 5 hours in her pram, had a bottle, went back to sleep and is still snoring. Clearly the problem is me! This adds a new problem that DP will a) no longer believe me when I say she's had a bad night, and b) have a very big head. Still, I've slept 6 whole hours in a row for the first time in 12 weeks. I'd do a little dance but I don't want to waste my new found energy grin

pidj that lesson sounds great, i'd have loved something like that when I was at school. Got my fingers crossed for you.

PR I would probably be down the doctors today, worst they can do is send you away to keep an eye on it they like that round here Hope she is better soon.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 07:35:06

I just phoned the doctor's. The receptionist said to bring her in tomorrow if she is no better. Now she is over 3 months it is no lnger the emergency it would have been trhee weeks ago hmm If she wasn't in a bit of a mood I wouldn't notice anything wrong with her. 20 minutes after the paracetamol goes in she's smiling again. She' s eating OK, though maybe a little less than usual. She's just grumpy. And hot. She's breathing ok, just a little faster than usual but that is normal with a temperature. If by the time this paracetamol wears off in a few hours her temp is higher than last night I will call again, as temps always get worse in the evenings.

ChunkyChicken Tue 05-Feb-13 07:44:27

pidj as a teacher, I have a few questions I'd need to know to plan a cracking lesson (although I only teach Science so not particularly exciting!!). Some are for them, some are for yourself
1) how old are the students?
2) what are they working towards/studying for? What have they been learning recently?
3) what's the objective of the lesson I.e. what are they going to learn? "What's the point?"
4) why are they going to learn that?
5) what questions can you ask the students to get them thinking?
6) can they work out what they're going to do/learn without you explicitly saying so initially?
7) how will you judge how progress has been made?
8) how long will you have to teach - a whole lesson or just part?
9) what activity can do to engage them (starter)?
10) what activity can you do to summarise/consolidate their learning (plenary)?
11) how will you identify the students so you can ask/answer questions?

Sorry if that's a bit teaching your grandmother to suck eggs of me, but I've done a few interview lessons & had to observe others...

DS has just woken up for another feed & dozed off. smile DD is in our bed having had a temp of 39+ at 4am again. sad Getting DH to phone at 8am to try to get her an appt as its been up & down since Fri. In fact, since Boxing Day, as soon as she gets tired/run down she gets a temp!!

And you're right, 7.5hrs or whatever is a blessing, VQ esp when he self-settles beautifully. He woke up when we came to bed last night, lay there smiling & cooing at us & then turned his head & went back to sleep. He was so cute!!
<ducks thrown objects>

Catbag Tue 05-Feb-13 07:46:22

Got out of bed about 90 mins ago to make a brew. It was a full-on blizzard outside. Woke eldest children up to share my excitement. They did not.

First question out of DS's mouth: Do you think the school will close? (it does close frequently when the weather is bad cos of this being a rural area and 65% of school coming in on buses from a wide outlying area)
Me: Unlikely. I think it's slowing down now and I think the sky is starting to clear.
DS: Great. I'm going back to sleep.

On to next bedroom...
Me: DD! Come look out of the window!
DD: (blearyly) What?
Me: It has snowed loads and is blizzardy!
DD: Do you think they will close my school? No, of course they won't, because in 25 years of being a headteacher, Mr X has never closed the school because of weather. Bah. I am going back to sleep.

On to 4 yo DD's bedroom...
Me: DD! Come and look out of the window!
DD: (suspiciously) Why?
Me: It has snowed! Come and see!
DD: No. If it has snowed then it is cold outside of my bed. I am staying here (turns over)

My kids are weird. I am the only peraon in my house to be excited by the snow sad

Catbag Tue 05-Feb-13 07:48:45

person*. I have no idea what a peraon is.

fruitpastilles Tue 05-Feb-13 07:55:52

Morning all! Had quite a good night, LO went down at 7:30 woke at 2:30 for a bottle then straight back down and woke up about half an hour ago grin

12 weeks old today and I'm looking at her happy smiley face knowing she has her horrible jabs today hmm at least she is blissfully unaware!

PurplePidjin Tue 05-Feb-13 08:00:56

Thank you thanks pm sent and advice noted grin

MissMummy1 Tue 05-Feb-13 08:24:13

Hahaha your kids are hilarious catbag ! That said DH phoned me at 3am "because he thought I'd be awake with M anyway" - I wasn't amazingly - to tell me it was snowing. I also did not share his excitement.

PP your lesson sounds fab! I'm a primary teacher but in Scotland. I think Year6 is the equivalent to our P5 so I can email you a template of a basic lesson plan proforma I use if you like? P5 is one of my favourite year groups to teach - old enough to have a bit of banter with or give some responsibility to but not quite at the cocky/eldest in the school therefore own it stage. All the very best to you, you have some brilliant ideas! smile

Sophiathesnowfairy Tue 05-Feb-13 08:35:19

Lol catbag

Have they closed the schools?

No snow here.

Am hearing it might have snowed in NI though stunt,is that right,think they may have even got some on the coast which is unusual.

horseylady Tue 05-Feb-13 08:45:38

No snow here though according to fb very close has snow lol!!

Ds busily chatting away!!

Right can I take him somewhere to get his passport photo taken? I don't think I can do a booth?!

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 08:46:15

Argh. Didn't mk it to 9.30. Feeding but taking ages hmm.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 08:48:47

We've had, in the last hour: hail, thunder, v strong winds, rain and snow. V strange weather.

Temp down to 37 and she's lively and chortley. So the paracetamol is helping.

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 08:56:27

Well, DS just slept for the four hours. I am shattered. I am struggling with my breathing as I think I have a chest infection. Off to dr today. DH is insisting. He has never done so before so I must be bad.

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 08:58:03

And we have fucking snow. I fucking hate snow. You are the weird one cat grin

Passmethecrisps Tue 05-Feb-13 09:12:04

I like snow - as long as I don't have to go anywhere.

Wee P has her jags today. Poor wee sausage. Watching her in her bouncer trying to eat her Lamaze firefly.

Good luck preparing for your lesson pidj. Sounds like you have got a great idea and the ladies on here are helpful as always. I have never actually had to do a lesson like this before.

Actually, speaking of p eating things. Does anyone else's LO try to eat the bubbles in the bath? We put lavender baby bath in her bath and recently she has been stuffing it in her mouth.

Horsey Jessops do baby passport photos. I took the girls for theirs at 6 weeks. Just remember the passport photo guidelines. The teenaged boy who took the first set made a balls up of it and I had to point it out.

Kyzordz Tue 05-Feb-13 09:42:23

Just skimmed but yes passme Eric eats bubbles too, not noticed him showing a preference to any sort though!

Quick q as i'm now panicking about temperatures. Do I need to go and get that whacking great Braun thing? I have one of those little digital things in the TT travel set, will that work? My mind has decided its worth panicking about as we have more jabs today and I didn't realise how rubbish the brother max one is but I've been testing it and it's shite. I now don't trust it at all and am finding it hard to trust said cheap digital thing :/

Catbag Tue 05-Feb-13 09:51:14

Try taking your temp with the thermometer now? See if it seems accurate?

VQ :p
Hope you get this chest infection nobbled quick. You need a break sad

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 10:25:57

I have a cheap digital thing - it's most accurate up the bum on babies. Underarm add 0.5 degrees. It is far more accurate than the expensive ear thermometer I bought and chucked out for lying, and is even more accurate than the thing they wave at you in hospital if that isn't kept at a pretty much constant temperature for ages before use. (PIL have one and it gave me three wildly different readings within minutes. They're good when used properly)

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 10:27:57

VQ please get yourself checked out. Nasty chest infections won't get better on their own and you need to look after yourself if you want to be able to look after the children. Remember what you were saying to me a few weeks ago.

TheDetective Tue 05-Feb-13 10:48:47

I love how good we all are at giving advice grin and how bad we are in taking said own advice! wink

Blizzard here. hmm Cat, what VQ said. <shakes head at nutter!>

Bubbles and water get eaten here. In fact, whatever can be stuffed into mouth gets eaten like it's the best thing ever. confused I try not to think about the germs!!

I'm doing 3 hourly feeds today whether he likes it or not. My therory is crap night followed by good night is because that crap night has included an extra feed. So the next day he's already one feed up, so there fore the night he doesn't need an extra feed. But then he does the next night because he's back to being a feed down. So I need to get that extra feed in the day if he is to go 8 hours at night. Does that make sense?!

TooManyDicksOnTheDancefloor Tue 05-Feb-13 10:54:03

I'm a science teacher too chunky smile

Good luck purple, the big thing ofsted look for in an outstanding lesson is progress. Where were the pupils at the beginning of the lesson? what progress have they made? How will progression be demonstrated?

I've just taken Bronwen for her first jabs, she properly screamed and cried real tears sad. She is 9 weeks today, 11lb 4oz and wears size 2 nappies. She's still fits newborn clothes from mothercare, 0-3 are too long in the legs! I've measured and she's on the 9th centile for length but 50th for weight!

Hope you're better soon VQ

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 10:56:03

Right temperature has gone right back down. But that is to do with the paracetamol, but good anyway. Seems happy enough.

BigPigLittlePig Tue 05-Feb-13 11:10:22

We don't have bubble eating here yet but she will lick anything within licking distance. Usually a choice of me, sling or blanket hmm

TheDetective Tue 05-Feb-13 11:24:48

He's sleeping on me. I forgot to put the swing put before he fell asleep. Am too used to someone being around to do it! Now I'm stuck! He will wake if I put him anywhere else!

Erm. I'll just sit here surrounded by silence for the next hour then! Duuuuh!

Was gonna have breakfast. It will have to be lunch now instead!

The girls passports have finally arrived! Now we need a nice holiday!

StuntNun Tue 05-Feb-13 11:30:21

Detective I'm sure that makes sense to someone less sleep deprived than me. Don't even ask me about last night, I was this close to putting him downstairs in the Moses basket to sleep.

We have two inches of snow Sophia so trudged happily through it to take the boys to school.

Can't remember what else I was going to say. Did I mention I was tired? Hope things improve for you PR, you must be due a lottery win or something by now?

PennieLane Tue 05-Feb-13 11:53:58

horsey Jessops here has closed-I went to Snappy Snaps and they did it, knew what they were doing. Really hoping passport arrives before trip to Lux next month!!

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 12:07:55

Trip to Lux Pennie ?

I need to get passport done for trip to UK. What a faff.

I need to send off for Ms passport, also need to send off for my own. Best find the marriage certificate.
There's a website that if you take a photo of your DC against a white background then upload it, they make it in to a passport photo. I think they relax the rules a bit for baby passports

TheTiger Tue 05-Feb-13 12:15:48

detective I'm trying to do something similar by making sure he gets all his feeds in from 7am - 11pm. Except last night his last feed was 8pm so I went to bed with him and let him wake for his feed himself instead of dream feeding at 11 and he went til 1.30! Then had another feed at 6.30. let's not talk about the hours in between of fussing, hitting himself, hitting me, crying, wriggling, etc, etc

PR hope your DD is better? I think with a temp like that I would get LO checked out. Although I'm sure Dr will say its viral!

VQ hope you feel better soon too.

pass DS eats anything that comes anywhere near his hands or mouth. He seems to especially enjoy chomping on a muslin!

I have the Braun thermoscan too, it's what we use at work. You don't need to use a new cover every time if using it on the same person!

Those who are looking at holidays, where are you going? Abroad or UK? I would love a holiday but the thought of all the baby crap stuff we would need to take puts me off. Please tell me how you are planning on doing it!

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 12:26:03

Waiting in dr surgery. Left baby with the husband with two tails. I swear he has grown a foot since passing his test. He has been out all morning just driving and getting used to it. He is doing really well. I am very proud. He is taking it to work this afternoon. He is not taking the kids anywhere yet as wants to be more confident and I am happy with that.

I feel like shit. Hoping I do not need antibiotics as I tend to feel ill on them. Most likely though. Last night I had a couple of episodes when I could not catch my breath. Both times just sitting feeding J. Both girls at school and nursery so having a bit of a rest.

capedcrusader25 Tue 05-Feb-13 12:29:18

Max Spielman horsey? They do them.
pidj don't forget SEN kids! Dyslexia, asd, spld, etc.
Look after yourself vq!

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 12:29:40

I have the thermoscan braun thing. The other day I took Js temp and it said 39. I then took it with the digital and it said 34. J was hot to touch and very distressed so just had to use my initiative. Very frustrating. I find the braun is good on the bigger kids but always do it twice. I reuse the caps on the same person and if it gives an odd reading, removing and replacing cap can help it sort itself out.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 12:30:18

I felt like that when I had my bronchitis VQ. Glad you're getting checked out.

Stunt can you put in a word with the lottery gods? I won 2€ last night. Two piddly euros. Can't even buy a pack of baby paracetamol suppositories with that.

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 12:32:59

PR do you rate the baby pcm suppositories? They cost an arm and a leg over here. I always forget to ask for a prescription. Thankfully J is pretty good at meds, but I remember it being a nightmare with middle child.

BigPigLittlePig Tue 05-Feb-13 12:43:35

Sorry to hear so many of you are ill - I hope you can manage to snatch a few hours rest. Good luck at the doctors vq
Good luck with the lesson plan pidg

It's raining/snowing/everything in between here, and I have to walk to baby group. Would usually put LO in the sling BUT can't find a brolly. So the proper pram bit is getting its first outing - it's huge tanklike but has a raincover.

Piglet has added to her pig-noise repertoire with piggy squeals of delight when on her playmat - I'm not sure who was more surprised, me or her!

I hope you feel better soon VQ. What rotten luck you've been having.

Tiger we are planning to take the twins either to my parents in Greece or to visit my sister in the USA. I think that is the key, visiting family so they can prepare things for your arrival. I will only need to take the girls and a few of their things. Have decided to go to Greece in the summer so they girls can have some nice hot weather and go swimming. My sisters husband is from Corfu & they have a holiday home their. My parents live in Athens, near the sea thankfully as Athens in summer is almost unbearable in the heat. I can't go alone as each baby needs an adult so DP will come with us for a couple of weeks then he will need to come back to work. My mum will have to fly back with us. Such a hassle and costs necessary money.

Fatima, they are more lenient with baby passport photos, for example, they can have their eyes closed but their faces still have to be a full frontal and the size of the head has to be a certain size within the photo itself. Hope that makes sense!

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 12:48:19

Yes I do - they aren't expensive here, in fact I'm still on the same pack they gave me at the clinic when I gave birth (we get sent home with essentials). Easy to administer, fast acting, doesn't go into the stomach and can't be spat out. I'll use them until she's about 9-12 months.

That does make sense, thanks garden. I think I'm going to go with the website as they scale and crop it so its the correct size etc and means I can do it at home. I'll try find the site.

It's snowing again here! And at 1pm I have got nothing done apart from feed and play.

DonnaDoon Tue 05-Feb-13 13:01:33

Hi all
Does anybody know the likelihood of DarceyDoon catching chickenpox off my mum....? Had a lovely afternoon with mum on Saturday and mum just phoned to say that she is covered head to foot in shingles today. Doctor said there is a chance she could catch it...just a case of waiting and seeing.
She is due to have her 3rd lot of jabs tomorrow so might hold off until next week incase she breaks out in them too.
In other news we have a 4 month sleep regression here..after sleeping 10-5 for weeks she fed at 1-3-5 and7 last night..oh well at least I'm b/feeding and co/sleeping so I don't feel too tired yet.

Evilwater Tue 05-Feb-13 13:06:55

Well jabs done. N is asleep on me. I've given calpol as he seemed to be in pain. So I'm stuck.

I phoned one nursey, and there is a 12 month waiting list for the baby room. I have a appointment with the nearest to the hospital.


TheDetective Tue 05-Feb-13 13:28:56

Thanks for that link Fatima I need to get them done for the trip to my Dads in April. Need to get my skates on and get it done.

Seems Oscar has been reading mumsnet. He demanded his feed just before 3 hours were up. I should have more faith in the boy! I always think the worst, and he always surprises me. Like I made lunch, I thought he would no doubt scream while I was making and/or eating it. No, he happily entertained himself on the bloody changing mat!

Blizzard again! BRRRR!

I've just added up what we have to spend on the cars at the end of this month - 2 lots of tax due, and my MOT. I would like to cry! A lot! I am praying it passes its MOT. But I have never had a car pass an MOT. So, yeah, not gonna happen is it!

Why are the days just flying by? Yet little seems to be achieved in them! All those hours stretching ahead of you, but they just disappear!

TheDetective Tue 05-Feb-13 13:32:30


I've been whinging for weeks over Oscars clothes not smelling as nice as they did when he was in the first size clothing. I went and got his clothes out just to sniff them blush and I was right, they had a lovely fabric softner smell. DP swears we are using the same softner. I was sure we were not. I got the one I thought it might be, and I was right! We now have gorgeous smelling clothes again! MMMMMMM!

Oh, and even better, although I'm not sure how fabric softner could make this difference, but the clothes have dried without needing ironing. His first size stuff didn't need ironing, but his bigger stuff has, I put it down to the clothes just being bigger confused. But it seems not!

So, screw you Comfort, and hello Lenor!!

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 13:37:59

Detective since when have any baby clothes needed ironing unless you'e selling them on ebay ?

TheDetective Tue 05-Feb-13 13:38:50

Anyone got/used SockOns? I put Oscar in an outfit yesterday, required socks. Bloody socks. I hate socks on babies!

For future outfits, anyone recommend them, or otherwise?!

ChunkyChicken Tue 05-Feb-13 13:49:36

Can't catch up at mo but nursing bra fitting advice/question.

Haven't got a properly fitting one so going on which bits 'fit' & which don't, and using measurement from a tape measure which are usually inaccurate IME I ordered some from John Lewis.

Anyone else find that the lack of underwire etc causes it to 'bag' a bit on the side/underarm area?

I fill the cups & the band is snug, so as far as I can tell, its the right size BUT the sides are wrinkled. I need to get a proper fitting I dream of going to the rigby & peller shop at Bluewater but do you think this is par for the course at the mo?

I'm wearing one of the bras as I type (the cheapest one) to try it out, but at £40 for 3 bras, its a lot of money to throw away....

Damn you DS for making my boobs bigger than with DD. I had the bras already to go!!!

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 13:57:03

donna it will be three weeks before any pox appears. I would discuss risks with nurse - may be better to get them out of the way? Hope your wee one is spared, and poor mother. Shingles is horrid horrid horrid!

detective J has two pairs of pink sock-ons. They are good for the first few months, or if baby has very small thin feet, otherwise they can look as if they are cutting the blood supply off. I plan to invest in some neutral coloured tights for with outfits. I know, you pity my son, don't you? Third child with two big sisters. He never stood a chance.

I have a chest infection and antibiotics. Fuck.

detective Not tried sock ons but M has some socks from baby gap, bought at the outlet and they stay on really well and quite thick. She's worn other pretty ones and they fall off

Snow's falling heavier now, DH has rung wondering whether to leave work early or not

TheDetective Tue 05-Feb-13 14:08:21

VQ I used tights on DS1, so don't worry!! J isn't alone grin.

I had a 3 pack of white, navy and red. They went with everything! Oscar is skinny, skinnier than DS1, I'm not sure he could hold up tights! He can't hold up most pants hmm.

He has skinny feet I sense a theme here, so maybe sock ons would be okay!

Fatima I'm not sure when I will next get near a Gap! sad Not got one here, probably Trafford Centre is nearest. I might have a look online. Does M have slim feet?

Now VQ, it is your turn to be looked after. Especially as you have a chauffeur slave now. grin

Yes Ms feet are long and thin. We don't live near a Gap either, Trafford centre or Meadowhall probably closest. I got them when I was a pregnant from a Mcarthur glen type place. They're plain white and quite thick and have baby gap on the bottom in that plasticky non slip stuff. Looking on their website they look like the cozy favourites or ribbed favourites.

M has some converse socks so at the weekend she had the gap socks with the converse ones over the top grin

kirrinIsland Tue 05-Feb-13 14:23:14

Hope you're feeling better soon VQ

I've just had an email inviting me to a second interview - i can't stop smiling :-)

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 14:31:55

Well done kirrin

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 14:33:50

Oh fuck! shock

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 14:38:13

What GT ?

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 14:38:27


GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 14:43:16

Shocked face. Disbelief face. But Happy face and it will be ok face.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 14:43:17

Well done kirrin

Good job you were checked out VQ . I also react badly to antibiotics, but they will help.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 14:43:42

Spit it out!

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 14:43:55


GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 14:44:27

Get ready for the fucking panic face later.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 14:45:35

You're pregnant? Really?

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 14:52:15

Bloody hell GT (I win, I was right!) and congratulations thanks

Pikz Tue 05-Feb-13 14:57:58

Detective I found sainsburys socks with the stars on the bottom work really well on the tall thin one here.

Well done kirrin.

VQ you are deserving a lottery win or something for all you have been through. Get well soon.


fruitpastilles Tue 05-Feb-13 14:59:00

Hope you feel better soon VQ
Yay kirrin well done!
GT, really???

S has just had her 2nd lot of jabs, she only cried for about 2 seconds grin

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 14:59:50

Wow! Congratulations.

Pikz Tue 05-Feb-13 15:02:41

Feel like shit here. Stomach upset and feel dizzy. Please don't let me be ill, pllllease.

Cripes! Congratulation GT smile you're one very brave lady! <clings onto pill packet for dear life ;)>

J really is poorly, he slept from 10pm until 6am then fed and went straight back to sleep until mid day, fed agin and now he's been asleep since 1.

Oh and I'm signed up for Boxing fit with my sister tonight confused

Wow GT Congratulations!!!

kirrinIsland Tue 05-Feb-13 15:12:32

Congratulations GT thanks

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 15:14:39

Has GT confirmed?

StuntNun Tue 05-Feb-13 15:19:23

Wowee GT you crazy lady!

Detective I use SockOns when we're going out somewhere, especially if using the sling. I don't bother with them in the house as VQ said they cut off the blood supply. J has huge feet though, he's already in 6-12 month socks from John Lewis.

My mum keeps talking about weaning ffs. I thought she was going to offer J a piece of banana today. He's only 11 weeks! She's very against the idea of weaning at 6 months for some reason. I'll have to watch out for her in case she sneaks some baby rice into him when I'm not looking hmm

Ah stunt my sister is the same, I. Have to watch her like a hawk with J, she's desperate to give him a milky bar shock

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 15:25:57

GT has not denied it, and from her posts I would bet money on it being positive. Rather you than me honey x

M keeps grabbing at her ear. Not sure if its because she's trying to play with her hair, she's just discovered she has ears, a tired thing or if she has earache

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 15:30:15

fatima check her temperature. Usually an infection would have a high temp.

PennieLane Tue 05-Feb-13 15:34:25

Congratulations kirrin and GT if you are prego, wow! blushgrin

Catbag Tue 05-Feb-13 15:35:07

GT?! Confirm or deny! YOUR QUICHE NEEDS TO KNOW!

Passmethecrisps Tue 05-Feb-13 15:35:20

Really GT?!? Actual really? OMG!

In other MUCH less exciting news P had jags today. Cried a bit but pretty brave really. GP not keen on weaning early when I said that the docs at hospital had mentioned it he screwed his nose up. Fine with me

Have a horrid dry cough which keeps waking P up. Might have to hide in the kitchen

Catbag Tue 05-Feb-13 15:36:39

<<absolute-panic-must-get-DH-to-the-snipping-place face>>

horseylady Tue 05-Feb-13 15:36:57

Omg gt??!! Seriously could not imagine only having a year apart??!! Mind you, you sounded like you wanted another so congrats!!

Det - yes just started using sock ons. Love them. No lost socks, no blood supply issues.

Vq - get well soon. You defo need tonic smile btw my link kept working fine!!

Proper full on blizzard here. Typical now lambings started. First two both look like they'll be bottle fed. Still at least they were live and properly formed!! Been worried about schmallenberg.

StuntNun Tue 05-Feb-13 15:37:30

Ah Milky Bar, the classic weaning food!? Is your sister a bit mad Tits?

horseylady Tue 05-Feb-13 15:40:13

Pass - it's odd isn't it? Some advise is wean early for reflux and cmpi yet others hold out.

I have no intention on weaning earlier than I need!! I can't believe some people start at 15 weeks?! That's like Saturday??

Blizzard has stopped, in case you were wondering smile that was shot lived!

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 15:40:42

Fingers crossed the virus passes you by horsey

TooManyDicksOnTheDancefloor Tue 05-Feb-13 15:41:40

My sister was obsessed with feeding my dd1 milk bar too, in fact she did when she looked after her for an hour.

horseylady Tue 05-Feb-13 15:41:56

Gt where you going back to work?!

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 15:42:58

Oh poor lambs. That said I used to love bottle feeding them when I was a child. Mlk was made up in empty wine bottles with teats attached. So cute, until the buggers got big enough to push me over.

Another one counting down the days until snip snip here, especially since I stopped the blood pill.

horseylady Tue 05-Feb-13 15:45:43

Vq - seriously hope so. The advise was if the ram went in later (so sept/oct) they seemed to hope lambs wouldn't be affected. He went in late august/early sept so we've been hoping!!

horseylady Tue 05-Feb-13 15:48:44

Pr - yeah this is the one sheep we were worried about. She's lame and has been laying down a lot. She's still laying down. We got one lamb on and sucking but the other one was bottle fed. If the lamb still with her feeds off her happily well leave her in, if not then it'll have the bottle.

I haven't got a thermometer! It's on my list to buy <wails>
We have a lloyds chemist down the road, will they sell them?

BigPigLittlePig Tue 05-Feb-13 15:57:11

I go out for a few hours and come back to a bombshell - congratulations GT if what we suspect is true. I would do childbirth again, this bit again. But pregnancy - no thankyou, not just yet. I need more time to pass and my rose tinted specs to get more rosy!

BigPigLittlePig Tue 05-Feb-13 15:58:11

<note to self - must remember to start TAKE THE PILL>

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 16:04:25

Yes Fatima the pharmacy should sell them.

12 cm of snow predicted here in the next 24 hours.

LO temp not gone up again since the dose of paracetamol at 7 this morning. I bet it will go up again this evening, but she hasn't needed another dose in the last 10 hours so I think she is OK. Possibly fighting something off.

DD1 isn't brilliant this afternoon. Vry clingy, and when she was entertaining herself as I looked after LO occasionally she was looking over at me sadly, and then looking away as soon as she realised I had seen her. Bit jealous I think.

BigPigLittlePig Tue 05-Feb-13 16:10:24

PR it's so sad when they do that. DSD is usually v affectionate towards me, but when LO was 5 or 6 weeks old, and had been v demanding with feeding etc one weekend, DSD went around giving everyone loads of kisses, then just gave me one and informed me it was because she only loved me one today sad. I think that was around the time I decided the sling would be a good idea!

Kyzordz Tue 05-Feb-13 16:13:58

Congrats gt if you are indeed updiffed! Very brave lady!

I have a new cheapy thermometer, seems to work and LO has no fever yet, he seems quite well so far, just a little clingy at first bless him!

Re: weaning, I've had to make clear to my mum I don't want to wean yet, I was started at 8 weeks and the latest any of us had baby rice was 12 weeks I think, and with E being 13 weeks she's keen to get a milky bar into him. I just keep saying his milk is fine for him and she appears to have gotten the hint smile she means well but had me at 16 and her gran taught her everything she knows about babies and I think it was quite the done thing to wean early? Her gran had 13 kids and being only 16 she did as told. She didn't think bumbos looked any use either but e has one, a m & p type one. She does mostly let me get on with it and despite some things like early weaning etc she is a fountain of useful info!

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 16:14:01

Yes. Confirmation I am pregnant.

Went to GUM clinic to get contraceptive injection. Cos I'm late for AF had to do pref test first. Was chit chatting to nurse. Oh I know I'm not preg. I had very obvious implantation pains. My boobs were very painful. So i know I'm not preg.

Anyway. So we have a positive test.
As you know I wanted a small gap. Just not quite this small.
A surprise but its ok.

I am now entering the panic phase. So forgive me for any random shit I start talking about.

I don't knowDH will be happy. But I'm nervous to tell him. Oh crap. He is home.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 16:14:10


Poor things it mist be hard on them. DD1 pinched LO the other day. I asked her if she wanted to hurt LO and she said yes (she's at that age when they haven't learned to lie yet). I think the desire to hurt her little sister has passed. I don't know what provoked it in particular but I suppose it is natural to be jealous and as she doesn't know how to manage her emotions or even name them she lashes out. Either by screaming (most often) or crying or that one time pinching. Can't be fun being a toddler.

BigPigLittlePig Tue 05-Feb-13 16:16:24

Bless them. When i was pregnant DSD informed me she was going to cut the baby out of my tummy and then chop its arms off. Not quite sure what her motives were hmm

GT - you're mad but congrats again <wonders where you found the time to dtd!>

YellowWellies Tue 05-Feb-13 16:16:46

We had jags too today - all in all not too bad - just his 'they're murdering me' cry. We also had a horrific night here - think its def the 4 month sleep regression - the swaddle just held it at bay for 4 nights. Eegad may it be short lived.....

GT you're mad!!!! Time for your DH to up his game shock Let's hope H isn't an early mover or late pregnancy will be a barrel of laughs! Good luck - it sounds like its something you've been toying with so many congrats - but rather you than me wink

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 16:17:30

Wow GT that sure is unexpected. Imagine if it's twins grin


Congratulations. Good luck telling your DH and MIL.

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 16:24:35

Or indeed triplets...

Passmethecrisps Tue 05-Feb-13 16:24:56

Blimey. Must read those leaflets about the coil and make a decision ignores fact that conception requires shagging

If it is GT congrats and you know we will all be here for moral support.

Get well soon VQ. I can't believe your luck

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Tue 05-Feb-13 16:27:10

GT wow. thanks

<hurries to FPC to sort own contraception. Ignores vivid dreams.>

PR DD adores DS but still smacks him on the head / plays the bongos on his tummy etc. Tis natural.

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 16:27:37

I should buy a lottery ticket.

DonnaDoon Tue 05-Feb-13 16:31:13

GT thanks Wel jel myself

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Tue 05-Feb-13 16:38:10

I have actually just booked my appointment at the local FP clinic.

PennieLane Tue 05-Feb-13 16:38:39

Wow gt congrats again!! You'll be fine! How exciting! Hope all ok with DH sure he's thrilled.

So is it due in Oct? Have you started the antenatal thread yet grin

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Tue 05-Feb-13 16:40:05
Pikz Tue 05-Feb-13 16:48:24

Congrats GT!! Woweee and just like that you start again!

Now he's 11 weeks I can kinda imagine another....but not yet!!

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 16:51:53

DH just called. Roads out of Lux blocked by the sodding snow so he's going to stay at the office another hour and see if it clears. I am sick of the bloody winter.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 16:54:01

Well, we can't send GT over to the antenatal side on her own. Anyone going to step up and get knocked up so you can hold her hand? Anyone?



Sorry GT. I honestly think it'll be fine. So much fun when they are a bit older.

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 16:54:41

Sry that should have read - I know DH WILL be happy.

And he is. First thing he did was congratulate me n hug me. He is happy.

We have decided not to tell anyone until after India this time.
Apart from you ladies.

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 17:01:35

If your thinking about contraception sort it out. We have only dtd once since a week before Xmas.

Haven't looked at ante natal thread yet. My mind is racing with so many thoughts. When to tell work. When I should go bk? Finding a better hospital.

Pregacare pills. Need to find my self overs. I haven't taken any vitamins or even been eating well.

BigPigLittlePig Tue 05-Feb-13 17:06:26

GT my SIL has 2 girls, 13 months apart. She only dtd once after dd1 blush. It was hard work at first, but the girls are now lovely young ladies of 12 and 13 and it's been lovely for them growing up to be so close in age different story now they keep nicking each others makeup & clothes ho hum

Pikz Tue 05-Feb-13 17:13:28

It will be ace in the long term GT me and big bro only a school year apart. I couldn't have grown up without him... He's brilliant.

Any recommendations for large playmats. The little one with the arch LO is too long for and he can't stretch his arms out. Thinking of a wooden arch and large playmat.

fruitpastilles Tue 05-Feb-13 17:30:14

Wow congrats GT you mad lady hehe. smile

Sophiathesnowfairy Tue 05-Feb-13 17:30:32

No way GT!?!? shock crazy lady. Congratulations shock

TheTiger Tue 05-Feb-13 17:32:34

Oh my gosh congratulations GT! I'm glad your DH is happy, how are you feeling? How many weeks are you?

<feeling panicky at the thought of another baby>

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 17:41:20

Are you gonna change your name to GTBabies ?

YellowWellies Tue 05-Feb-13 17:42:26

GT you only need to DTD once especially if FF as (like after a MC) your body is meant to be super fertile because its not feeding your baby - the view is that it thinks LO has died - also why PND risk is higher maybe?

Fingers crossed your DH starts helping out with night wakings once you've got two! You're a better wife than me - if DH had been crawling into bed drunk there'd have been no DTD in our house!!!! Poor sod grin

capedcrusader25 Tue 05-Feb-13 17:43:11

Congrats GT! Hope all goes well for you and you don't have it as bad as last time x

ChunkyChicken Tue 05-Feb-13 17:43:13

Wow!!! Congrats GT. 2 of my friends have small gaps - 13mths between brothers & 18mths between sisters. They both make it look easy but rather them than me... I went to school with 2 sisters in the same school year: Sept birthday & Aug birthday. I understand its hard in the first couple of years but once they get more independent, they entertain each other.

Passmethecrisps Tue 05-Feb-13 17:45:17

I just had a wee look at the October 2012 ante natal thread. Didn't take long for my bottom lip to start wibbling

P is having a snooze but just properly cried. I was in the kitchen and heard her wailing so came through. She was asleep but her wee face was moving around. Was she dreaming? Obviously wasn't a very good dream sad

Also, when do babies know that it is their reflection in mirrors? I often show P herself but more often than not she seems a bit scared. Twice, I think, she has smiled and chatted but mostly she looks, tries to bury her head in my neck, look again and boohoos

ChunkyChicken Tue 05-Feb-13 17:45:19

<Writes note to self to get contraception sorted> grin

Passmethecrisps Tue 05-Feb-13 17:46:18

Oh, good luck on house offer YW!

MissMummy1 Tue 05-Feb-13 17:46:26

Congrats GT thanks Had a feeling you'd be the first wink . GP asked me during 6 week check how I'd feel about another so soon - the idea terrifies me! Ask me again in 4 years time, but our next one is definitely a puppy.

First jabs today. Done by a complete nazi (of course anyone who makes my baby cry is evil sad , but she was especially mean didnt you think yw ? No? Just me then....). She keeps looking at us and bursting into tears. Lots of sympathy cuddles in our house.

She's also dropped a fair bit on weight centiles to just below 75th. confused I've managed to fight my corner of no formula with a review in 2 weeks.

Need gin. Just set my grans ipad up for her and tried to show her how to use it... confused confused confused

horseylady Tue 05-Feb-13 17:52:09

Mm what was she? Ds dropped from 60th to 25th. No one said anything other than 'he's finding his line'. Oh and he's too active smile

Look at the baby not the number.

Passmethecrisps Tue 05-Feb-13 17:53:18

Right! I have had it with sodding charts and centiles! Does is make sense that someone will perfectly follow a line on a graph?

Does baby look healthy, alert, hitting developmental milestones?
Is baby poo nice and healthy looking?

Surely the above makes more sense as a way of monitoring growth?

P was born on the 50th - DH and I are dinky people. She is now following the 25
My sister's baby was born on the 50th - she and her DP are big people. He is now following the 75th.

M is still really young and may just be finding her own natural level. She was a big girl when born so does it not make sense that her growth might slow at times?

Am I talking nonsense?

Passmethecrisps Tue 05-Feb-13 17:54:15

Ack! horsey managed to say what I meant in far fewer words

ChunkyChicken Tue 05-Feb-13 17:56:56

I think your news GT has made me certain I don't want another - in the nicest possible way!!! I'm actually feeling sick with the thought of another one now and really, given my age & logistics of it all, I would need to do it now, esp as I wouldn't want a bigger gap than the 2.6yrs between DD & DS. Ergo, no baby now, def no baby later, no 3rd baby. DH is happy our family is complete so wants the snip. Until he does that, I'm not sure I want to rely on the withdrawal method we were using before both dc. I mean, its worked for us in the past, but it was never a negative thing if I'd got pg then iyswim.

Can't remember pass about the recognising themselves. I think its 6mths maybe?

MM unfortunate about her weight gain slowing (or was it a loss itself?). Are you going to feed more frequently etc? Any ideas what might have caused it?

Anyone else get more poos after the jabs? 2 epic poonamis in one day!!! shock

YellowWellies Tue 05-Feb-13 18:02:12

She was a Nazi compared to the lady who did J's first set MM totally agree. Her dropping a tray of instruments before giving them - which scared the wee man and didn't inspire me with confidence didn't help.

Which doc is trying to push a 75th centile baby toward formula top ups? Ridiculous - no one's pushed us and J is 25th centile. Clearly someone who still thinks its the 50s. As Horsey says I bet she is just finding her line.

Our post jag boy has been snoozing all afternoon - tonight's going to be white isn't it? sad

YellowWellies Tue 05-Feb-13 18:02:57

white = shite. Fecking tablet....

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 18:04:26

Yep, more poos here in the days following the jabs.

Passmethecrisps Tue 05-Feb-13 18:06:50

More poo? Is that a side effect? Excellent. Like a bit of poo

ChunkyChicken Tue 05-Feb-13 18:10:54

YW I thought I would have an awful night as DS slept all day yesterday but he only woke once for a feed.

Thanks PR. He's on his 4th outfit today & I got hit in the last poo-splosion!!!

MissMummy1 Tue 05-Feb-13 18:13:54

She has gained, just not a huge amount. I tried to point out that she has also gone from hourly night feeds to 6/7 hour gaos at night so of course she won't be gaining as fast! At risk of creating a rod for my own back I might introduce a night feed again.

Pass that was my theory too.

We have to go back in 2 weeks anyway to see if they are going to operate on her hernia.

blonderthanred Tue 05-Feb-13 18:14:10

Zomg GT !!!

You will have your work cut out but will also have siblings with a great bond. I've just been at a friend's house who has twins and it is hard work but very rewarding. I also know someone with 2 under 1 and - well - the same, but more so. Congratulations!

I said we should name the thread 'on to the next one'!

VQ I am very sorry to hear you are so poorly. It is rotten and you don't deserve it. I hope you feel better soon.

Det I have friends who have used the sock ons and loved them for a few weeks but then they were either too tight or the children learned to remove them too.

I really want some of those Converse socks!

Pikz Tue 05-Feb-13 18:14:49

Mm it's all such nonsense. I agree with pass. I had a baby who was 9th percentile, at 10.5 weeks he's 98th. He's completely breast milk fed, I can't feed him any less or he screams. He has a 6ft7 dad, my mum and bro are both tall (I'm a midget and the milkmans) to me he's just finding his line.

MissMummy1 Tue 05-Feb-13 18:20:43

Dammit knew I was going to ask something!

Just bought a groupon to get my hair cut. Not had it done for about a year shock (plus point, saved me about £450 so not all bad but well overdue!!). Can I take M with me? Or should I leave her with my mum/dh? All those nasty chemicals make me a bit wary of taking her with me. I didn't colour my hair the whole time I was pregnant and it's vaguely resembling my natural colour now so just getting a cut. Should I be big and brave and get my very long hair cut short? (M has just discovered she can grab a fistful during feeds...)

PurplePidjin Tue 05-Feb-13 18:20:56

Congrats GT thanks

We want a good couple of years between. This is our first, and I'm early 30s (dp is late 40s) so no huge rush.

Anyone know about constipation in bf babies? Ds goes every 1-2 days but is absolutely vile and grumpy for a few hours before, on and off the boob and uninterested in cuddles or toys. I think he must struggle to poo. He's just been, and is a different baby - smily, content, feeding well. Is there anything i can do to help him?

Thechick Tue 05-Feb-13 18:27:03

My goodness GT, congrats. How far along do you think you are??

H has his first cold. Booo!!

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Tue 05-Feb-13 18:35:20

MM I had my hair cut when DS was 5wo. I asked if I could bring him along and mentioned I may need to feed him (he was ebf then). They were completely fine about it. In the end he slept through the whole experience, but was much admired and I am sure that it would have been fine if I had needed to pause in the proceedings. I wasnt aware of any noxious chemicals while I was having my hair done, although I didnt have my own coloured.

I actually had my very long hair cut to shoulder length, on the basis I might do something other than chuck it in a ponytail every day. I dont. grin

YellowWellies Tue 05-Feb-13 18:36:24

Why wasn't my little tyke this snoozy at 4 this morning! envy

MM I need to go to the hairdresser too - have been cutting and dyeing it myself since my wedding. In 2011. Am such a slattern. Is it OK to dye your hair if BF?

horseylady Tue 05-Feb-13 18:38:10

Mm if she's hungry, shell eat!!! Babies are clever. Both dp and I are people who can eat and not really put weight on. Ds gains but at his rate. I can't physically feed him more than he wants. There is no need to feed overnight. Take the sleep. And if they insist on more regular weigh ins don't go!! I plan to go every 4-6 weeks max. Unless I think there's an issue.

He's happy, healthy, eating and soiling. And growing!!! And laughing smile

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 18:38:52

I had my hair coloured during pregnancy, are you not supposedto?

MissMummy1 Tue 05-Feb-13 18:43:37

PR it's a topic of debate. I chose not to although guidelines now say it's safe. Hormones can sometimes affect how your hair takes the dye and I was worried I'd accidentally go ginger again (like the one and only time I dyed my hair myself...) blush

YellowWellies Tue 05-Feb-13 18:45:44

Horsey totally agree. v wise approach.

PR I guess hair dyes aren't tested on developing embryos - so the long term consequences aren't known my MW told me to avoid - as with other chemicals such as fake tan which could potentially enter the bloodstream. Am sure its overcautious advice - am so sick of my greys now I'd like to be told its OK whilst BF!!!

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 18:48:27

I didn't even think of it blush

They weigh babies a lot over there. I wonder why. Surely it's obvious, at least to a HCP, if a baby is thriving or not?

It depends what kind of colour you have. If you have highlights then it doesn't contact the scalp as much as say a full head bleach.

DH has gone to the doctors so going to attempt a bath with M, normally he lifts her in and out

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 19:18:13

I had highlights. I did all kinds of things during pregnancy that are debateable. Even my meds that I'm on for lifehaven't been tested so the Drs just shrugged andsaid to hope for the best.

BigPigLittlePig Tue 05-Feb-13 19:21:51

Fatima I have become a football widow so am going to attempt the same. Also forgot to express this morning for gaviscon, so need to try to express 1oz in the bath confused

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 19:37:10

Mm I had my hair coloured soon after having LO. And had hair cut yesterday. Hairdresser was not impressed at all with the state of my hair and suggested that I avoid colour until my hair is alot healthier.

ChunkyChicken Tue 05-Feb-13 19:51:24

I had my hair cut to chin length with DD mm and decided not to this time because my hair is a type that needs styling iyswim, so I prefer it longer so I can bung it up somehow.

TheDetective Tue 05-Feb-13 19:52:28

Not caught up yet...

Am sat in my car seething as DP is jump starting his since he left the pissing lights on it all day. Jump leads were in the shed. hmm

I'm more seething over the fact that I've had to literally dump a screaming baby on MIL as he was due feeding just as dickhead rang. Tea was on... It's not now. hmm

I've never left Oscar with anyone but DP sad furious as I had no choice as I couldn't leave Oscar crying and couldn't afford for DP to get towed home.

Aw, congratulations GT, lovely news thanks

I would love another one. In fact, I would love more twins! DP and I were talking about it today. I want to try again when the girls are 4, he agreed. However, he is a shit so may have to find another candidate!

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 20:27:06

Ooooh a very distant relative is in the news today for being a serial burglar. Does that bump up my well 'ard credentials? We don't know him but the family name is so rare we are all related somehow, and my mum says he's a spit of her cousin. grin

LO's temp with no paracetamol has gone down enough for her to be dressed in more than a vest. Phew.

Right, someone said I'm due a lottery win. I happen to agree so bought a ticket for tonight's draw. I'll be sure to help out GT with the quadruplets she's incubating if I win the jackpot. grin

thinking about weigh ins. If LO hadn't been in to the Dr for her illnesses she would only have been weighed twice since we left hospital at four days. She's now coming up to 16 weeks and unless she is ill in the next four weeks she'll be weighed again. You guys have far too many weigh ins.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 20:29:52

And GT. Even with older kids it is SO much easier second time round. Pregnancy is less stressful, and you know what to do when you're handed a brand new baby. You'll be the old hand on the Oct'13 postnatal thread. And then when you join the Oct'15 antenatal thread you'll be doing it in your sleep.

My DD's have been weighed 4 times in 18 weeks. As long as they look healthy to me, I am happy.

Evilwater Tue 05-Feb-13 20:32:09

Congrats GT!

Another set of jabs today, and what a grumpy baby! confused sad
He has felt very warm at times even with the calpol. i know it's not recommended that I give the calpol in anticipatation of a fever, but last time he was very rough and I don't that again.blush He hasn't been drinking alot today too. I'm a little worried, but I'm hoping he will pick up during the night.



Sorry not caught up on the days events am here in a bit of a panic!!! Just changed Dottie's bum and there was bloody mucus????? The rest of it was back to normal seedy mustard texture if a bit green after having over a week of v watery dark brown poos

Looking on google it seems indicative of an intolerance?? But surely that would have presented sooner?? Should I call nhs direct?? Any advice much appreciated x

Elizadoesdolittle Tue 05-Feb-13 20:33:43

Gosh GT you're one brave lady! E just seems like a newborn still to me (guess she is really as she's titchy) I just cannot for the life of me imagine being pregnant yet. Actually getting round to dtd would be an achievement in itself! Sorry I digress...congratulations. At least you have your in laws to help you out. I'm glad you and your DH are happy.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 20:49:09

Glenda where was the mucus from? LO had some vag gunk come out today and I phoned my mum in a panic. And she sighed, and reminded me we had the same conversation about DD1. It's not a reason to panic. She says vag discharge is like snot, something the body produces to get crap out. If it was from the bum end, could be just swallowed snot. Panic not, and get D seen if there's any more.

ChunkyChicken Tue 05-Feb-13 20:50:22

glenda what colour blood? Does she seem well? It might be worth phoning NHS direct to put your mind at rest.

I haven't had DS weighed as much as I had DD weighed. Maybe 6 times inc at birth but most of those were required for his tongue tie.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 20:51:17

Bright red blood? If so it's from a wound near the exit, no big deal but needs to be seen but not tonight. Dark brown blood would be from further up and more urgent. But no reason to panic. Just try and work out where it's from.

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 20:52:46

glenda if a phone call will put your mind at rest, then do so. How is LO in herself? How much was there? Please do not worry, but follow your instinct.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 20:54:01

And don't google. I googled today and decided LO had a rectal fistula. One in a billion in an otherwise healthy baby. Dr Google is a bad bad doctor. My paed is very anti google.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 20:56:23

And (I'm unfortunately quite knowledgeable about intestinal bleeds) if it was urgent, you'd know it. She would have another symptom.

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 20:58:07

I have not had DS weighed since 6 weeks. He is about 16lb I reckon.

I had my hair cut when pg with both girls. I thought it would be easier. It was not. I do not plan to have it cut short again. Unless I shave it. Would love to shave it again.

StuntNun Tue 05-Feb-13 21:00:21

This playmat is hyuge Pikz so it'll be great when baby's starting to roll and move around a bit.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 21:03:58

I keep my hair long. No, it doesn't suit me, but at least I can tie it up. Short was far too much hassle and I smelt like my granny with so much hairspray.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Tue 05-Feb-13 21:07:30

I haven't once been to baby clinic. I have weighed DS a couple of times. At three months, he weighs just under 14lbs. DD is just 2. She weighs just under 28lbs shock

fruitpastilles Tue 05-Feb-13 21:14:58

I last had Sinead weighed at 7 weeks, she's 12 weeks now. I'm getting her weighed on Thursday. She was 10.10 last time. I'm quite intrigued as to what she will be on Thursday.

MissMummy1 Tue 05-Feb-13 21:22:03

M was 12lbs1oz at 9 weeks today.

It was red and gloopy and it was right up the back of her nappy so exploded out - the rest of it was green seedy mustard.

She's absolutely fine - been at the childminders for first time today and took milk well and just had wet nappies.

Will monitor next nappies overnight and get drs appt in the morning

OMD congratulations gt ahhhhhh lil n has already got a lil brother/sister baking in the oven!!! Please don't vanish to the antenatal thread completely -we love your random posts!!!!

vq hope drs have fast acting miracle cure - try and rest as much as poss easier said than done with 3kids I know

Kyzordz Tue 05-Feb-13 21:27:04

Hope he settles back to normal during the night evil

Maybe ring nhsdirect glenda? Never had a DD but mum said sometimes bloody looking mucus is expelled from the vagina (as someone said above) so perhaps it's that? Is she normal in herself? Hopefully it's nothing to worry about!

DS is asleep, he wanted bed early today, he actually seems to be wanting an earlier bed time, it was 8:30 for about a fortnight but he has wanted 8/8:15 for a few days now. By want I mean he cries and whinges in the bath and then goes straight to sleep when put down. Perhaps as he is having less day sleep I need to bring bedtime forward. Despite jabs he has slept 2 hours today since 7am to 8pm so no wonder he is nackered!!

Just wondering how long after jabs can they get a temp/seem poorly? He's been ok so far but does that mean he won't get anything or could something still present itself like a fever or something? Jabs were 10:40 this morning x

Kyzordz Tue 05-Feb-13 21:28:48

Sorry glenda didn't see your post before I posted!

horseylady Tue 05-Feb-13 21:31:15

kyz - ds had his jabs last week and was ok. He felt slightly warm at about 9pm so I gave some Calpol. Apart from that he was fine?!

Ds was weighed last week and was 13lb at 13 weeks. I don't think he's put much on tbh. But he's drinking 7-9oz per feed!! And moving soooooo much. Wonder who takes after??!!

Long hair tied back. Seriously no idea how people do short hair and look good.

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 21:34:36

Thank u everyone.
I'm to nervous to post on oct 13 thread. What if they don't like me!

daisychain76 Tue 05-Feb-13 21:35:24

Wow, congrats gt!

georgee Tue 05-Feb-13 21:42:28

Congratulations GT - it'll be fantastic, I'm sure they'll be really close at quite a young age and will be able to entertain each other. We've got a lady at our toddler group who has just 12 months between the two - things are going well for her.

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 21:43:45

To know you is to love you GT

MissMummy1 Tue 05-Feb-13 21:48:35

biscuit biscuit biscuit Warning: totally irrelevant pish that's been bothering me for a few days!

I will be graduating in July this year. Debated going back to do an honors/post grad year next year but realised I can't justify the time (or expense) just now so have decided to graduate with my year group who stayed on and poss go back in future when there are more jobs at end of it and I get bored of running my own business. I digress. We get 2 tickets per person. Can apply for more but unlikely to get them. Obviously my mum and stepdad are coming. However I also want DH to be there. And M, although I have a feeling this is frowned upon sad . There is no way a 7 month baby could sit quietly for 2 hours. I will struggle! If I don't get the extra ticket, who should sacrifice their place and look after M for the day? Stepdad or DH? Doesn't help it's also 200 miles away from home and my grad ball is 3 days later. So I think my suggestion is mum and stepdad attend ceremony while DH explores the city with M, we stay up for a few days and hope SIL will take M for night of grad ball which DH can attend and be part of? (parents going on holiday straight after ceremony) He was with me for virtually my whole degree and I want him to be part of me saying goodbye to that chapter of my life.

Sorry I'm vocalising what's in my mind. Ignore this post! (what would you do though??)

zcos Tue 05-Feb-13 21:53:40

I think your plan sounds good the ball will be best bit for dh he will be bored at ceremony its a long thing to sit through for about 30 secs of you.

zcos Tue 05-Feb-13 21:54:46

oh congrats gt ... I wanna try for number 2 in December my friends think I'm mad!

Brockle Tue 05-Feb-13 21:56:16

congrats gt grin my nephews are 11 months apart and really good friends, very close.

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 21:58:41

What a lovely thing to say VQ. thanks

Mm. Apply for the ticket, try ur luck. Take m if u get ticket!
For me graduation was ALL about the picture. Would be lovely to have M in your picture!
My sister came just to be in our family portrait then left as she had to go to uni.

GTbaby Tue 05-Feb-13 22:00:12

So maybe DH n M can join u for the pic then dinner after with ur dM n Step dad.

horseylady Tue 05-Feb-13 22:01:53

What's your degree in? I asked and got extra tickets for mine. So did dh when he got his msc. Not thought about what I'll do when I get mine. If not go with your plan? It's your ceremony who do you want to be there most?!

Post gt!!!! You might not like them smile

Right today small dog has not been out of my sight after running off twice yesterday. Hard hard work...

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 22:04:08

Yay. Late evening temp check and it's fine.

ValiumQueen Tue 05-Feb-13 22:17:14

Good news PR

I did not even bother going to my graduation ceremonies. I have not got a pic of me, but DD1 had a pic when she graduated from nursery.

I am praying my sterilisation worked. I would be horrified if I were to get pg. I think another one would finish me off.

Have crammed three doses of antibiotics and feel like things are loosening a bit.

Ms temp was fine. Her bath however was not, she was v upset for some reason and then kept getting upset afterward. After a screamy feeding session she sparked put on me at 8:30!!! I've just transferred her now and she's still sparko. Wonder if she's moving her bed time all by herself?

Ahhh this talk of number two is reminding me that DH and I really need to discuss it. We have a frozen embryo that we've paid for storage for three years so until March 2015. We also have frozen sperm but its storage runs out in Marh this year. I don't think we can afford further storage for the sperm at the moment. But we need to discuss when/if we want to use the embryo? What happens if the embryo doesn't work? What happens if we decide on another go at IVF but we find we can't use his sperm but we've got rid of his frozen sperm? Ahh too much to think about confusedgrin

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 22:21:17

Good news VQ.

MissMummy1 Tue 05-Feb-13 22:29:16

Education horsey It started as a biomedical degree, switched to neuropsychology, developmental psychology and then teaching confused ....

He could lurk around the campus and be there for photos and meal. Obv I would love him to be there but he is already moaning about cost and having to take time off work (yet the selfish bugger thought nothing of taking a week off im October and spending £5/600 on a sailing jolly envy angry )

MissMummy1 Tue 05-Feb-13 22:30:01

VQ he didnt go to either of his graduations. His way of sticking two fingers up to conforming and his parentshmm

MissMummy1 Tue 05-Feb-13 22:32:23

Matilda is feeling very sorry for herself post jabs sad . Keeps looking up at me and crumbling into tears. Proper tears for the first time ever sad . It's heartbreaking!Lots of cuddles and calpol spat out down mummys top

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 22:36:57

Those first tears are horrible. But... plenty more where that came from. Those first tears come from pain. That's all. Not sadness, or anger, or hatred, or disappointment. Just a jab of pain. It's a reflex, not something you have done to hurt them. So don't feel bad. The first tears had to happen some time.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 22:38:25

And once they start, unfortunately they happen more and more. The jabs, pain, open the waterworks. Don't worry.

PetiteRaleuse Tue 05-Feb-13 22:47:17

And once they start, unfortunately they happen more and more. The jabs, pain, open the waterworks. Don't worry.

TheDetective Wed 06-Feb-13 00:02:44

Shitting hell GT you bloody mentalist!!!

Congrats though!

Crazy woman!! Wonder how you are going to keep up on 2 threads!!

ValiumQueen Wed 06-Feb-13 00:32:36

Shit it is blowy here. I am glad we are all home.

DS slept for 2.5 hours which is fab for the first stretch. Having a good feed so fingers crossed he will go down no trouble.

StuntNun Wed 06-Feb-13 04:16:15

It's quiet tonight. Where is everyone? J has had another long stretch so I've had five hours sleep. Phew! I was beside myself last night when he wouldn't go to sleep. He was lying there yelling and staring at me accusingly but nothing I did seemed to help. DH is back from Trier tonight so maybe I'll get a bit of a break during the witching hour(s) this evening.

I hope everyone's okay and getting some shut eye.

PurplePidjin Wed 06-Feb-13 04:16:39

Where is everybody? Am i the only one left in night feeding sleep deprivation hell?

StuntNun Wed 06-Feb-13 04:18:22

Ha x-post Pidj! I'm here propping the thread up at night. We're in most active atm.

wellieboots Wed 06-Feb-13 04:29:49

OMG GT that is something else! I couldn't do this again for at least a couple of years, you are one brave crazy lady smile

PetiteRaleuse Wed 06-Feb-13 05:19:30

Agh, DH and I stayed up until 1 talking and it's now just gone 6 and both DDs are awake and hungry.

Wow what a quiet night on here.

PetiteRaleuse Wed 06-Feb-13 05:21:16

Agh. I bought the wrong level 3 teats, opened and sterilised them.

TheTiger Wed 06-Feb-13 05:26:16

I'm here. Just doing 2nd feed of the night, but DH did the first one so i've had 6 hours of lovely sleep!!

It seems most of the babies on this thread are much better sleepers than ours stunt and pidj!

I said to DP that one of the lovely ladies from this thread is expecting again, his response ...

"Is it you? Please say its you!!!..."

Dopey arse.

In other news I went to the gym last night, I'm possibly cripples this morning confused

Thechick Wed 06-Feb-13 05:38:59

I still have a bad sleeper, we are still here!!

PurplePidjin Wed 06-Feb-13 05:55:26

Grr unnoticed nappy fail means I've been feeding since 4. That's in a bamboozle with a microfibre booster. Aaaaaaaargh!!!

And he refuses to nap so it's not like i can chill later while he sleeps either sad

MissMummy1 Wed 06-Feb-13 05:58:22

I'm here. Thanks PR I'll be prepared for it in future. Being a mummy has obviously made me soft, watching her sad little tear stained face made me want to cry too sad bless her. She did sleep 11 to 5.30 though!

Does anyone have the M&P Luna or Luna mix pushchair? I've eyed it up in M&P shop a few times and need a smaller pushchair than my massive travel system for trains etc when I don't have the car. Any opinions? There's an almost brand new one on gumtree in my area ignores fact if is bright pink, ughh reasonably cheap.

StuntNun Wed 06-Feb-13 06:05:24

Chronic sleep deprivation has finally taken its toll. Baby is being taken back this morning. Now where did I put the receipt?

PetiteRaleuse Wed 06-Feb-13 06:05:24

Masses of snow here. Hope your DH is able to get out of Trier Stunt though I have to say the airports here are generally better prepared than in the UK, being more used to it. Normally Trier direction gets a bit more than we do.

ComradeJing Wed 06-Feb-13 06:06:52

Another thread!

Bloody hell.

Hi all <waves>

Ds rolled from front to back today. I suspect it was a fall more than a roll though grin

wellieboots Wed 06-Feb-13 06:11:15

my mummy brain fail for today - DDs passport has arrived but I was out so I got a card to pick it up from the post office. Marked "A. Wellies", and I wondered who it was for! oops, note to self, must remember my child's name in future! But in fairness, she doesn't get that much post grin

ComradeJing Wed 06-Feb-13 06:12:27

Far out... Just catching up with thread...

GT!!! Congratulations!!

Had Ds weighed when we went for jabs (thanks for the sympathy on the last thread btw). Ds is 7.7kg which is about 16lb I think. The wee chubber!

ComradeJing Wed 06-Feb-13 06:12:52

Wellies grin

GTbaby Wed 06-Feb-13 06:35:34

Det I'm worried about the same thing! One thread is hard enough. But now two! I've LO hope.

PR I did exactly same thing. Opened pack and sterilised hmm waste of £8

Tits come and join me! There is another lady there with a 4 month old. wink So I'm not alone.

StuntNun Wed 06-Feb-13 06:56:43

Thanks PR, he was delayed a couple of hours but made it back to Heathrow late last night. He has meetings in Weybridge today then back home tonight. The snow has all melted here and been replaced by gale force winds, the Sold sign outside the house is distinctly askew now.

In other news I booked our summer holiday yesterday so we will be in Aberdeenshire for a few days then Fife for a week. It's all about the food, I'll be eating battered white pudding, Fisher & Donaldson fudge doughnuts, I may even have a bridie! I miss Scottish food the most.

Catbag Wed 06-Feb-13 07:31:44

Hate to say it, but 16 weeks to the day and we have had full-on sleep regression in the House of Cats. They weren't even sleeping that well before but there was at least some pattern. Two nights now and they've been yawping every hour from midnight. I can't find the receipt either stunt. Exchange or credit note it is then.

Catbag Wed 06-Feb-13 07:32:26

I guess that's a pattern too, actually.

Cacacaz Wed 06-Feb-13 07:32:27

I think I've missed a fair few threads, the last time I posted was December!

Had a bit of a tough time recently but things are now looking up.

Blooming heck GT but congratulations to you and dh

Must go my Wee Dude is awake, must try harder to keep up with these threads!

PetiteRaleuse Wed 06-Feb-13 07:35:56

Oh I thought he was flying today. That's lucky. DH off sick today with this cold we're all enjoying. Hope he doesn't think he gets to spend the day in bed.

kissyfur Wed 06-Feb-13 07:54:12

Hi ladies, just marking my place - bit late as you're 15 pages in already! Going to attempt to catch up, think I've missed quite a lot but can gather ffrom just this last page that congrats are in order for GT!!! Omg GT!! Congratulations, wow!! Also hope all is ok with you cacacaz x

Had lots going on here as it was DD1s 3rd birthday last week so had her party at the weekend, DP and i were up til gone 2am the night before making her birthday cake!?

LO is doing well, had her jabs on Monday, luckily they don't seem to have affected her too much. She's 12 weeks on Thursday and has really started cooing loads when you talk to her, so sweet. It's like having a conversation in coos smile

Right think I've got quite a bit of reading to do...

ComradeJing Wed 06-Feb-13 08:00:44

I LOVE the coos.

<thinks about going to wake Ds so I can coo at him>

<maybe not> grin

ChunkyChicken Wed 06-Feb-13 08:10:47

kissyfur my LO does that - coos, gurgles, even sort of purrs in response to your conversation. It's lovely. He even leaves gaps waiting for your reply. smile

Had a pretty good night. DS accidentally fell asleep before his bedtime feed after his bath, but I did manage to feed him. He then went nearly 8 1/2 hrs until just past 5am, asleep the whole time. Uber-quick feed (I was back in bed by 5.30 inc putting collected bm in the fridge & going to the loo) and not awake properly until 7am. He is a v good boy smile

Thinking about donating bm as I'm such a cow but not sure if its a bit much to take on atm. It wouldn't be that much effort but sometimes I feel that things are only just working ok iyswim...

Kyzordz Wed 06-Feb-13 08:21:10

Morning all! Ds is out for most of today, I miss him already, but I've got LOADS to do! All the bits you wish you had time for and don't, plus the usual stuff! didn't post last night despite waking at 12:30, 1:30 and 2:30. Not LO, just me! Probably my paranoid side wanting to check his temp (which I did but not intrusively, he seemed fine). Would've popped on but was trying desperately to get to sleep so I didn't feel like spending today asleep too. Obviously I still would like to spend today asleep but I can't complain after 7hrs really can I.

My only current whinge is I have the implant stick in ( as of Monday lol) and since having it I've had an awful headache! It's such a sickly one, wish it would bugger off!

ValiumQueen Wed 06-Feb-13 08:35:50

Crap night here too. Two 2.5 hour sleeps, but took forever to settle inbetween. Full on screaming whenever I went to move. Brought him into bed at 5 to feed and DH was not happy. It was for me, not J. I reminded DH I am not well and not up to wrestling a baby for 2 hours twice in one night.

If J is not improved significantly by tomorrow I will take him to baby clinic to see Dr. He has no temp, I think it is just a very bad cold and he feels rotten.

Off for school run. Deep joy. Just what I need.

Cacacaz Wed 06-Feb-13 09:25:45

kissyfur we get coos too, they melt my heart!

kyzordz and VQ hope you both feel better soon

kyordz I had the implant 3 weeks ago and have had terrible headaches since - I think they are easing though!! I also had a really red hot patch around the implant that went really dry and scaly, the itching and redness has gone and with lots of moisturiser I'm not to lizard like but there's still discolouration of skin there!!!

kyordz I had the implant 3 weeks ago and have had terrible headaches since - I think they are easing though!! I also had a really red hot patch around the implant that went really dry and scaly, the itching and redness has gone and with lots of moisturiser I'm not to lizard like but there's still discolouration of skin there!!!

Pikz Wed 06-Feb-13 09:43:04

LO napping. Have already taken car to garage and now doing house admin and business admin. I'd love a break. So tired. I might want a refund too on LO. His breaks between feeds getting shorter wtf!

BigPigLittlePig Wed 06-Feb-13 09:59:13

I'll have a refund too please. Somebody in our house <narrows eyes at little pig> has decided 4am is a good time to get up. Well it's not. Especially not when stupid mummy pig decided to stay up for some adult company. Am knackered. Plus was a horrible misery guts to dh this morning sad

With her earlier bedtime, M thought 4:45am was a good time to lay chattering to herself.

I think I have a blocked duct. Ms night times are all over the place at the mo so my boobs have been more engorged. Last night I fed her at 12:30am. Afterwards there was still a hard lump in my breast, like golf ball sized and feeling like it does when engorged. I fed her with the same side at 3:30am and massaged while feeding. It's not as hard but is achey

Any tips?

BigPigLittlePig Wed 06-Feb-13 10:35:26

Have you tried feeding her with her chin pointing towards the lump? (may require some gymnastic ability depending on location of said lump)

Pikz Wed 06-Feb-13 10:37:27

Fatima warm compress, hot shower and lots of feeding and massage.

ValiumQueen Wed 06-Feb-13 10:37:46

Bugger. Blood in his sodding nappy. Bright red mucousy strands. Not masses, but I am now on nappy watch. He had an explosive poo and appeared to be putting effort into it, although not hard or anything. May be my antibiotics so I will observe. No more Brufen for him. I will get a px of PCM suppositories from the doctor. I do not want a refund though. I want my baby to be well again.

Hmm the limp's right at the top so she would have to feed upside down grin

Off for a hot shower and massage. Will dig out my heat pack.

None baby related question, I'm going up to my sisters and I normally call at the deli for sandwiches for lunch. Any filling suggestions?

sad VQ could it have just been a sizeable poo that's irritated on the way out?

blonderthanred Wed 06-Feb-13 10:48:50

Oh VQ I'm sorry things are still so tough. DS woke after 3 hrs but I persuaded him to go back to sleep for another hr, then after an hr of feeding he did 3 more hrs. So a bit more than you but I still feel the pain of broken sleep! Obviously I don't have a school run to do though. I think he is sleeping better as the cold goes so hopefully J will do the same.

PR I hope your DH pulls his weight today.

Sorry to all poorly/sleep-deprived mums and babies.

The first time DS and I had a proper 'conversation' I cried; he just seemed to get that we were taking turns and then suddenly he burst out giggling as though he could see the absurdity of it! He is a real chatterer now.

VQ have just seen your update. How worrying for you. Hope it is just a one-off, maybe from the Brufen as you say although it was obviously necessary at the time to bring his temp down.

BigPigLittlePig Wed 06-Feb-13 10:50:04

You may have to dangle a boob over her confused - like I said, acrobatics!

I'm a boring ham salad kind of girl.

zcos Wed 06-Feb-13 11:04:45

its been a miracle night for me...probably a one off but tiny slept 11.30-8am then back down til 10 ... she only woke at 8 cos I picked her up and boobed her if anything was a dream feed! But she didn't nap yesterday for more than 10mins - not unusual for her some days she naps all day others she is up all day... feeling on top of the world today grin not sure for how long but makes up for whole day of sad sad sad on Monday.
in worse news think my period is here it has to be that is v heavy angry dd only 9 weeks and I am ebf was hoping for a few months more! sad

horseylady Wed 06-Feb-13 11:10:27

I hate brufen. I can't believe Its sold over the counter.

Vq hope he gets well soon!!

I did my first meet I left before I fed though.

Elizadoesdolittle Wed 06-Feb-13 11:11:49

Quick weight up date. Just had E weighed. She's put on 3ozs in 8 days. Now weighs 8lbs 11 (3.94grs) at 12+4. HV was pleased so I can go back to weekly weigh ins at the clinic as opposed to home visits. She had her 2nd set of jabs yesterday and so far no reactions. She's got a peads appt on 5th march and then another dr check up and final jabs on 6th.

blonderthanred Wed 06-Feb-13 11:16:03

Well done Eliza and E!

PetiteRaleuse Wed 06-Feb-13 11:16:28

Oh my God I feel AWFUL. Jst felt bunged up this morning but it is now a horrible cold, am feeling shivery and generally crap.. DH buggered off to the Dr over two hours ago and is still next in the queue - we don't do appointments with GPs here.

DD1 is playing up massively and LO is obviously still feeling rubbish as she is eating little and often and crying in between.

The cat has puked on the changing mat - again- the house looks like a bomb has hit it and all I want to do is crawl into bed and I bloody can't.

And I just s