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February 2011- the one where life gets better for all of us.

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GOLDdebka Tue 25-Sep-12 21:24:03

New thread open for business!!

I am anticipating MUCH weight loss, job improvements, sleeping babies, good health and one very eagerly anticipated BFP. smile

ILovePonyo Tue 25-Sep-12 21:29:01

Woop! Marking my place. Loving the positive title debs smile

Emski76 Tue 25-Sep-12 21:48:11

Hi all
Just popping in to say hi, hope your all ok, altho it seems we're all going thru it at the moment. I've had a kidney infection for the last week or so but m getting back on my feet, and Tinkerbell went missing 9 days ago. A neighbour found her under a bush today, she must have been hit by a car d crawled under the bush to die. Dh has brought her home in a box wrapped in a blanket. I sat on the patio door step with her ad sobbed like a baby. I'm taking her to the vets tomorrow to see if they'll cremate her for us. I'm so bloody heartbroken! It's ridiculous.

I'm sorry a few of us are having a hard time at the moment. I will be back to post more when I've wallowed in my sorrow for a few more days xx

blizy Tue 25-Sep-12 21:48:18

Yay, happy new thread! Love the title and your opening post. x

blizy Tue 25-Sep-12 21:54:24

Oh no emski Poor Tinkerbell, how awful sad. It's not ridiculous you are heart broken, pets are part of the family. Have some hugs from me to you. x

ILovePonyo Tue 25-Sep-12 22:09:07

Oh emski sad that's so sad. I would have cried my eyes out if it was one of my cats, I'm so sorry sad Hope tomorrow goes ok, really feel for you x x

ILovePonyo Tue 25-Sep-12 22:09:31

Not ridiculous at all x

wigglesrock Tue 25-Sep-12 22:14:16

GOLDdebka many thanks for the new thread and fab title xxxx

emski no, no, you're not being ridiculous at all. I was heartbroken when our cat died, we've had our dog 10 years now but our cat will always be special to me. Take care xxx

blizy I have a feeling the girls were fishing for info, if they've heard any playground info I'd rather they got the truth from me grin. To be honest I'm still scarlet with mortification blush I was considering just talking to S but it felt silly to get O to leave the room and then know S would repeat everything back to her probably incorrectly!

ponyo glad you're feeling a bit better - shout at you - surely you don't mean moi? grin xxxx

blizy Tue 25-Sep-12 22:25:32

Wiggles- I would have done the same, better they hear the truth than silly stories. I remember in primary I found a used condom in the playground, thinking I was bring helpful I picked it up and handed into the office lady, she may have freaked out a little grin shock.

reastie Wed 26-Sep-12 07:30:05

Marking my place

deb love the title

ems how sad - a cat is part of the family so it must be heartbreaking. Is Ben OK about it? Poor Tinkerbell sad - I guess at least you know now so you're not constantly wondering where she is... Hope you feel better soon from the nasty infection. How is Ben doing at school?

blizy shock shock to that story. Bless you being so helpful!!! shock

wiggles at least you got 'the talk' over with for 2 out of 3 in one hit

Off to GP this afternoon - for a few years I've been drinking an inordinately high amount of water every day as I get really thirsty (around 5 litres a day or so no wonder I always need the loo ). Finally realised this isn't exactly normal so off to check what's going on with me. I don't usually make appointments for such little things so hope she doesn't think I'm wasting her time hmm .

In other news, Alice wouldn't go to sleep until after 11pm last night <massive yawns> and DH says he doesn't think we can live on just his income, so I either have to suck it up and work hmm or get another job. Am currently looking into our finances and looking at tightening how much we spend on food every week. I wouldn't be suprised if we spend £150 a week on food blush blush blush - no more fresh berries and naice treats for us!

Grannyapple Wed 26-Sep-12 09:53:22

Thx for the new thread debka. Sorry to hear your worries re:dh. Can't really give any advice, but ((hugs)) anyway..

emski aw sorry to hear of your news...i think we've all been there re:pets. I remember our family dog passed away the night before we were going to take her to the vets to be put to sleep (she had cancer)...was like she knew. Me & sis were sobbing for days...

Ha ha blizy with playground helpfulness.

Well done wiggs sounds like you handled that brilliantly.

reastie not got any real advice but sis says same re holidays in state schools too..seems to be happening everywhere (there were lots of teachers at SIL's wedding so heard them all being outraged at losing some holidays by shortening summer hols etc).

ledkr Wed 26-Sep-12 13:25:17

Hi all.

ems I break my heart everytime a hamster or rats dies I hate to think of an animal suffering. Hopefully she died quickly they do hide when they know its time dont they? So sad.
wiggs You didnt get the "that is disgusting never talk about it to me again" Ella reaction then?? I remember when she was 5 she sussed out about gay people as we stayed at my friends who just happen to be a gay couple. I told dh i was worried she would tell her friends and the posh parents would be pissed off.He reminded me that is was the 21st century and they would look like biggots if they did. Ella just wanted to know who has the babies and wears the wedding dress hmm
blizy lets hope you are getting there now with a drs app. My ex had alow count too I think they say that a lot tbh.
deb How are things. Its hard for me to be objective because ending my marriage was very sad but unltimately the best thing I ever did.Not because i met dh after 5 yrs but because I was wasting my life with him. Unemotional,thick,going nowhere idiot. I never even got cards from the kids when they were little.
I have done and acheived more in the last 10 yrs than I have in my whole entire life. I have traveled,re trained,laughed like a drain,gained many good friends and just lived my life.Money isnt a problem theses days thanks to tax credits and its a great time to be a single girl.
I also believe the children need to see what a good relationship looks like.
After all that weight you have lost and your plans for your career he probably feels resentful and insecure but thats his problem really.
I also think it takes great courage and deternination to keep going at a marriage too.
Nobody can tell you what to do but I do know that you can see a relate counsellor alone if that would help. Lots of love to you xx
ponyo8 what did Dr say?
D is still adding to her aggressive vocab. Get away,get down,what doing? are all said regularly with a big scowl.

ledkr Wed 26-Sep-12 13:27:15

reastie Had to say we are there with the food too. How do you reduce it though unless you eat crap.

wigglesrock Wed 26-Sep-12 15:57:21

Well, looks like its been a day of firsts - after my mortifying sex ed class, I went to a Mother and Child/Toddler etc group this morning. This is the first group I've ever been to blush, I don't do other people grin

The things you do for your niece grin, I took A as well and met my Mum there - it was her Granny and Grandchild cronies. A had a brilliant time and Emma just watched everyone waiting for the snacks blush.

ledkr Olivia told me "she didn't want to hear about it if it was going to be gross" grin. Funny enough we have gay relationships sorted without a blink of an eye, a few of Ss school friends have been to civil partnerships and I found any questions about that much easier to deal with. Sofia just asked can you marry a girl/boy and just seemed to accept the you can marry anyone you want as long as you love them and they love you back. I have a funny feeling this might all come back to bite me on the bum at the first of Sofias First Communion meetings that start next week grin. Mr W is already giggling.

debka just sending much love - don't forget that if you just want to blow off steam or moan, cry, bitch, shout (in capitals of course) that you can just type away on here.

emski hope vet was helpful today xxx

blizy xxxxxx

GOLDdebka Wed 26-Sep-12 16:32:37

Oh you are a lovely bunch, thank you for all the support thanks

Things are ok really, I suppose I was just mulling things over a bit. I must admit I feel jealous when wiggs you talk with such love about MrW and ledkr the passion (ooer) you have for DH. There's just not much of that about. ledkr I may look into Relate, I can't imagine for a moment DH would come (although you never know), but I would welcome some advice.

My poor sis is having a bad time, her DD is 2 weeks old now and she's basically shut herself away from the world- unwilling to see me or our sister. My mum's been on holiday and went straight to see her when she came back- turns out she isn't sleeping or eating much at all, detests bfing (but is scared everyone will judge her if she formula feeds), and feels no bond or love for her daughter. sad Poor poor thing. She's spoken to the HV (my mum was there) and we're keeping a Close Family Eye on her. She just hates being a mum, wishes L wasn't here sad There's not much I can do, since she's not keen to see me (and my entourage, can't blame her!), so I am supporting and helping my mum as much as poss so she can look after my sis.

MORE bad news, put on a gigantic 2.5lb yesterday, the shame of it grin. Am now ultra determined to lose a stone in 4 weeks shock, my lovely coat arrived and is too fecking small, I neeeeed to wear it at the end of October when we go away to the show. So, 4lb a week for 4 weeks, reckon I can do it? no

emski that is so so sad about your poor cat, I'm so sorry.

wiggles right, can you come round here and do The Talk in a few years? Or at least give us some pointers?

reastie there are other jobs you know smile Could you do primary teaching instead? Or private tuition? Yy to the food btw, so flipping expensive. I spent £20 on meat this week- 2 packs of chicken breasts, a gammon, pack of mince, 4 salmon fillets. Hmm, just realised, that won't be your problem will it grin.

ledkr S is the same, NAUGHTY, ME, GO WAY, MINE, NO are a selection of her favourite words grin All said at top volume of course. How's work going btw? How is annoying pregnant (not pg any more obv) colleague?

Ems - can't blame you for being upset, I'd be beside myself if anything happened to our cats. They are part of our family and we have spent a fortune flying them around the world. I hope the vet will cremate her for you. Xx

Deb - I don't much talk about my marriage on here but DH and I have been rocky from the beginning. I've been ready to leave a few times, gave him an ultimatum on his drinking 6 months ago. He made some really positive changes, quit drinking and we've been trying to improve our relationship. He's been sliding back in to old habits recently and I'm considering separating once I start working. My litmus test has always been "Do I want L to think this is a normal relationship?" and I'm starting to think no. Obv don't mention this on FB, but I want to commiserate. Your poor sis, are they thinking pnd?

Wiggles - I joined a "moms" group here too. shock It's no Netmums but it'll do. grin We went to the zoo yesterday with them and are off to a park playdate tomorrow. They seem to be mostly older mums too thank god.

reastie Thu 27-Sep-12 09:24:43

Hi all

Has anyone else read the thread about fb showing up pms for everyone to see? It's a DOTD. I'm in a bit of a state about it but I can't 100% tell if the messages I wrote that are on others' timelines (which are definitely pms) are visable to other people or just me as I wrote them. Am trying to get someone to look on my timeline to see if they can see them - so if you get a fb message from me today it's as I'm trying to get on chat and get someone to find out for me only no one is blinking on chat when you need it!

deb alot of what you say I feel the same way FWIW - I don't know if we are in the norm or not though. I sometimes even in RL when I meet up with friends and their DHs and I see how their DH treats them (as in affection/thoughtfulness etc) I feel a bit envious and sad about my relationship. american that's really honest of you. It sometimes helps I think to hear everyone isn't all loved up all the time IYKWIM. I hope things improve for you though. FWIW I have a very similar litmus test too.

Btw deb don't worry about the very slight weight gain - it's probably less than 2% of what you've lost already and just a blip - it sounds like you're back on it. Btw what size coat did you go for in the end? I find H&M can be really random in sizing - I can be a completely different (bigger usually) size in there compared to other stores, but sometimes I come up my normal size too - it's really irregular IME.

granny glad it's not just me re: hols

ANyone who gets this soon - are you on fb and can you get on fb to look something up for me to see if what I can see on my timeline (ie pms!) are visible to you or not please <nervous twitch>

ledkr Thu 27-Sep-12 10:27:01

deb work is ok atm thanks. Preggers is still tres annoying and acts like the only woman to have a child. There are 5 of us who have babies/childcare probs but she always has to leave early/come in late and will do absolutely nothing outside of her working hours eg meetings or training days. She said she couldn't do something the other day and I snapped at her that at least she has a dh who is at home every night unlike me grrrr.
Sorry for all you girls with unfulfilled marriages. Sorry if me and wiggs make you a bit uneasy but dont forget wiggs has been through it with Mr W and I kissed quite a few frogs before dh (who is far from perfect)
My marriage was unhappy for years but I didnt have the courage to leave and convinced myself It was best for the dc. Luckily he had an affair so it forced the issue but Im glad it did. Unfortunately I know how fragile life can be so Im all for leaving a bad situation if you cannot improve it.
D has a cold,she is ok but sad and snotty. Dil is having then for the afternoon whilst dh and I go to the cinema to see a horror. I have then got to take Ella for a look at her senior school. Everyone else is making choices about schools but our comp is right opposite and It is the best in the county so we are soooo lucky.
Ells has been better at night with the help of druggin piriton at Drs recommendation. shock

reastie Thu 27-Sep-12 13:21:02

<knees wobble> I sent a message on the off chance to a local lady who runs childrens fun cooking classes to ask if she was looking to expand or offer more classes as I was looking at pursuing new avenues work wise. She's only gone and responded saying she might be looking to expand and will ring me next week for a chat confused smile

ledkr the GP said to drug Ella with piraton shock grin . I'm glad it's helping. Is it all hormone related stuff do you think?

Btw wiggles and ledkr I don't want you to stop talking about your lovely DHs so don't feel guilty at how loved up you are .

Alice sleeping. I'm off to do some cleaning hmm

blizy Thu 27-Sep-12 14:04:29

Oh reastie, that sounds very hopeful! I excited for you. Btw I had a loom at you fb timeline, I couldn't see anything. Do you think you could have a look at mine please?

Ledkr- enjoy the film. I'm glad E is settling down now.

Baby sleeping here, I manage to have lunch in peace --except for the bloody cat--grin

reastie Thu 27-Sep-12 14:24:37

blizy had a quick look - can't see anything looking vaguely like a pm at all on yours. I'm really confused by it all. It looks like my pms to other people show up on their timeline but only visible to me and them (??) and vice versa. I've seen a couple of messages from friends' timelines that looks to me like pms though (although could just be wall posts) including a love poem for a friend written by their DP grin . I am now assuming he was sharing it with the whole world wink . Mn thread says loads of people have seen others' pms though so I'm all a bit hmm

reastie Thu 27-Sep-12 18:16:53

Oh, forgot to say earlier - to make you all grin - I saw a 'teacher top trumps' display on a wall display in school the other day (some kind of IT project or something vaguely education based hmm ) and I was up there with a rating of 5 for strictness and looks (which seems about average compared to others - I have no idea what it's out of probably 100 ) and 3 for 'amount of hair' grin [random]

ILovePonyo Thu 27-Sep-12 20:26:25

Hiyaaaa, had a lovely day with A today including going on the tram into town to buy new shoes (thirty quid?!! shock) and going to the park. We have also watched monsters inc about 50 times since it was on the other day, she loves it and points at the tv saying "bear. bear." intently until I put it on hmm

deb oh your poor sis. I really felt for her reading that, hope your mum can help her out. Sorry about the weight gain, this is the first time ever though isn't it? Think relate cpuld be worth a go, even if dh doesn't go. How are you feeling today?

reastie grin at teacher top trumps and EEK! at cooking classes! It might all be happening for a reason! <excited>

ledkr I didn't go to the docs blush am feling better now. Glad E is sleeping better, piriton - who would have thought it?

american hope you're ok. Sorry to hear about your realtionships probs too. Feel free to talk about it here if it helps, although don't feel that you have to!

wigs grin thanks for not telling me off wink Ooh a first "group"!! exciting! How was it? I have decided not to go to singing group anymore at the moment as A just screams when it starts then whinges b'cos shes tired, it was quite nice having a day to do anything we liked today!

Right better go, am off to my mums tomo for the weekend, she;s bought A her own cot bed whihc is nice, it means A won't be rolling out of her pop up travel cot anymore and bashing into furniture/sleeping on the carpet all night like she does usually when we're there smile

ledkr Fri 28-Sep-12 07:50:56

D woke at 3 with a cough and remains awake. I just thiught id share. I am hoping to grab a nap whn she does but its ruined my day,i had lovely plans.

blizy Fri 28-Sep-12 08:24:04

Thanks for that reastie I am grin at your top trumps results!

ponyo wow at the price of shoes! Enjoy your weekend with your mum.

american Sounds like you are settling into your new home.

ledkr that is grim, I was up too, I slept worse than usual last night.

I have the Doctors in an hour (yikes) then I'm going shopping for a dress to wear to our friends wedding next Sunday. Have a good day all.

blizy Fri 28-Sep-12 14:22:01

Do any of you have experience with fluoxetine? The dr has prescribed me some and I'm a bit worried about the side effects. Shopping was not successful angry.

ledkr Fri 28-Sep-12 14:36:38

Thats my drug of choice blizy. Its prozac. Very effective and well used. You may fell tired and a bit sick for first two weeks so take it at night x look up ssri drugs on the net

MizK Fri 28-Sep-12 19:34:57

Evening darlings, sorry I suck at keeping up at this MNing lark.

blizy no experience with ADs but I reckon it'll be pretty good if our ledkr recommends... she is the authority on these things. Hopefully they'll sort things out for you x

deb sorry to read that you've been struggling with DH. I am far from the person to advise on romance but I may have said before, I wanted to leave my ex for a long time but was just so scared - of how I'd cope, how the children would feel, how he would feel. We both since met the people we were supposed to be with - I honestly couldnt compare my relationship now to my last one - in a real sense, not hearts and flowers, I am completely happy and know we are going to grow old and cranky together! If you can say that about your DH then just keep at it. You do deserve to feel loved though (and to get laid, to be perfectly blunt.)

ledkr hope you have recovered from your rough night x

Gaaaah I forgot everything I read on the first page! Hello to everybody and I promise to be better at posting.... still adjusting to student life, its v fun but little time for MN smile Off to enjoy a rare night alone in the house, going to watch Twilight to see what all the fuss was about, I've beeen told that its so shit its actually funny....

wigglesrock Fri 28-Sep-12 21:14:30

blizy it was my drug of choice too grin Just generic Prozac as ledkr said - knackered me at the start too, but was a help after the first few weeks. Well something worked - am assuming it was the drugs grin Just put me on an even keel, helped me get focused - I used it for just over a year, I think. xxxxxxxxxxxxx

ponyo the group was good, food feckin' brilliant grin Hope you have a lovely weekend.

reastie fingers crossed - things might be a changing grin

Anna's in a single bed tonight - Mr W dismantled the cot and put the spare bed in (not even a slight wobble from me grin)

MizK Enjoy Twilight - I watched it - expecting it to be pure shite - I really enjoyed it grin I must be old I fancied the pants of her Dad blush

blizy Sat 29-Sep-12 05:00:49

Thanks for the advice girls, it knackers you eh? Let's hope it helps me sleep then!

Wiggles- Anna in a big girls bed now, sheesh these babies are growing up too fast! Defo showing your age fancying bella's dad grinwink!

Mizk- I heart twilight (but I'm a saddo) can't wait until the new film is out.

I will start the ad's when I'm feeling better, I have a tummy bug just now (yuck). Right im off to stare at the ceiling some more- try and sleep...... Hope all the babies are fast asleep.

reastie Sat 29-Sep-12 06:51:51

I quite liked twilight too mizk in a guilty pleasure type of way blush but think wiggles must be getting old re: fancying her Dad wink

blizy sad - hope you feel better soon, glad you've got the prozac. I took it years ago but don't really remember much about it so can't help much

deb how's your sister?

I'd be suprised if Alice slept 3 hours last night, and she refused her nap yesterday afternoon too <sigh> . She looks like she's getting a cold so maybe that's why. I am shattered though!

ledkr Sat 29-Sep-12 09:23:23

reastie thats how d was.her cold is horrible but she slep well last night thank god.
wiggs Big bed. Blimey you dont hang abojt do yoh?
Dilly wont be leaving her cot for sometime yet her sleeping is too unpredictable.
mizk good point re getting laid grin that would be deal breaker for me.

reastie Sat 29-Sep-12 12:06:28

A q for those with older DC - what age do they stop using plastic tablewear and use normal china to eat on at meals? It's just I bought this for a friend of mine who is expecting another DC for a present when they are born as I was convinced she was having a girl....turns out she's having a boy! [too organised for own good]. So I'm wondering if her DD will be too old to have to for christmas - she'll be 2.5. If children generally progress to normal plates etc at 3 then I won't bother I'll keep it for Alice but if a 2.5 YO will get a couple of years worth of use then I will grin

wiggles Alice has been in a big bed for maybe a month now. It's worked so far well for us - she has the luxury of a double bed to herself shock

ledkr it's tiring isn't it! DH has gone out for the afternoon so I'm home alone with a vveeerrrrryyyyyy whiney DD - even cbeebies isn't working hmm .

GOLDdebka Sat 29-Sep-12 12:40:59

Hey everyone,

exapt sorry to hear you have relationship woes too. I don't blame you for keeping quiet about it all. Much love xxx

wiggles and reastie S is in a cot and will be for a while yet, will be a major reshuffle to try and fit another bed in the girls' room.

reastie bloody hell, 3 hours shock you poor woman sad Sstill isn't interested in TV (damn her), so you're one up on us at least there! That set is adorable! My 2 both use normal cutlery and crockery already, but only because I'm too cheap to buy special stuff blush

blizy v glad to hear you have some treatment, I hope it starts working quickly. I can't imagine suffering from long term insomnia.

ledkr it's not a deal breaker atm but I can see it becoming one. I have the implant which makes my libido practical zilch which I hated to start with but now it kind of suits us sad

My sister is doing a bit better I think, she been at my mums A LOT, or my mum's been at hers which I think has helped. My other sis is struggling now (sigh), her DD (2mo) is not sleeping due to her first cold. Her DH is working and studying so she's coming to me this afternoon. Then I go to work- CAN'T WAIT!!

blizy Sat 29-Sep-12 19:45:23

Oh Debka- I'm sorry your sisters are having a hard time, fwiw I wish my sisters were as supportive as you. They are very lucky to have you.

Wiggles/ledkr- is it ok to have a couple
Of glasses of wine on the fluoxetine? I have a wedding next sunday, I would like to partake in a couple of wines (I won't be having to much, just 2 or 3).

I am really worried about my friend, he was sent to hospital after an eye exam at optician with pressure/swelling on her brain, she is waiting on ct scan and lumbar puncture results. sad send her some good vibes please. X

Grannyapple Sun 30-Sep-12 08:45:03

Ooh blizy sorry about your friend....hope u've heard back now? Lots of good luck vibes your way mrs x

Been out 2 nights on the trot this w/e shock... v rare indeed! Had a whole bottle of wine last night (wedding reception) so feeling it a bit today, little N blessed us with a lie in until 8.20...again, unheard of!

debka hope both sisters get through everything ok. As blizy says, they're v lucky to have you.

ledkr hope D is on the mend & finally getting back to decent sleep pattern. Same for you reastie, oh & how exciting about poss job change!

Waves to wiggs emski expat ponyo & everyone else I may have missed.

ledkr Sun 30-Sep-12 15:48:00

Bollox just lost a post. Ill summarise.
Drinking on prozac may make you extra pissed or sleepy. I do but no surprise there i guess grin
Another weekend on my own so went to a car boot with girls. D wore jeans boots a beany hat and a cagoule and looked like a gallagher brother grin

Just need a quick poll. Please be blunt.
Mil has been tryiong to get us to go on holiday with them since I can remember. We havent as we prefer our own holiday and cant afford two.
She has now cleverly manipulated the situation and arranged a holiday to their time share which is a lanzarote sporting holiday shock She has said they will pay for the accom but not flights and it is for fil 60th. I was initially ok with this (cheap extra holiday) but now we cannot get flights for under 250 each and that is before they add all the other bumph airport taxes baggage etc plus insurance and transfers. Then we will have to have spending money and food for 4 of us basically making it a very expensive week. Dh thinks we can afford it and still go away in the summer on our own but I think this is ridiculous. We could spend the money on many other things that we need and I dont want to cane about four gran on holidays in a a year.
Its not as if I will enjoy it.They exercise form 8am till night time so Ill be stuck with the kids all day and its not even that nice it looks about 2-3 star tbh.

Do you see my point? Id be prepared to put up with it if it was cheap but not pay all that to go somwhere I dont want to.

I get fed up with all this,i think dh would be better married to a younger more pliable girl who wants all this hanging about with pils.
We will have the stupid sisters abroad wedding to fork out for too sometime soon sad

I told him to go on his own and id have a holiday with the girls in august,take them to Dubai and stay with my friend. He swore at me angry

Nb Ella wil also have her residential trip the week before or after so thats another reason I cant do it.

reastie Sun 30-Sep-12 18:29:34

ledkr honestly you sound like you're completely making the right decision not going IMO. I think you show great will to actually be willing to go in the first place! If PIL don't understand the reasons why you will choose not to go they are being completely unreasonable. It's very nice of them to offer to pay for accommodation for you but £250 each for flights is an awful lot - you could do a complete family holiday on your own for that much shock , plus, theres always extras you pay for once you're there like food/drinks/tourist tat/etc etc. Maybe you should suggest next time they pick somewhere you can get to on your camper or maybe you'd rather not mention the possibility of a future holiday in any case . I am a younger pliable girl hmm btw and I'm not putting up with lots of hanging out with PIL grin so don't think that about yourself. If DH is so desperate to go would he go on his own or take D (assuming you don't have to pay full wack for her...and you may, I have no idea). I think have another chat with DH and try explaining that it's not as you don't want to go on this holiday with PIL <coughs> there are very obvious reasons why it's not practicable to go - leave personal feeling aside. Sounds like it would be alot for Ella to have too, especially how great not PIL are with her. Btw meant to say, apparently SIL/BIL are having problems with their DD who is 10 and how she's getting teenagery and generally hard to deal with - maybe it's their age?

granny 2 nights out in a row eh? What a party animal grin

blizy hope your friend is OK - keep us updated.

deb hope both the sis' are OK soon enough.

Gym today for me <polishes halo> and lots of cooking - made a fruit loaf, big roast dinner for DH and Alice, tofu bake thing, pea and mint soup in the freezer and carrot, ginger and orange soup for me for dinner. I realised that I've nearly lost the weight of Alice since I joined the gym shock - she is very heavy wink

ledkr Sun 30-Sep-12 19:05:27

well done reast and thanks. It does help to be told ianbu. I cant help thinking that this is a another of mils manipulations tbh and what a great idea to suggest they could have done the camper thing.
I did look on line too its called La Santa btw, You should look it looks like my idea of hell haha,i almost wish I could go so that I could laze about all day watching them over the top of my sunnys whilst drinking from a bottle and puffing on a holiday fag <nods at wiggles> ab fab stylee as they jog past me.

Reastie are you dieting too or is it just the gym that has shifted the lard??
I have done lots of cooking too today,shepherds pie,bread,flap jacks and Nigellas Nutellea Cheesecake. I then knocked up a batch of slimming world coleslaw. Oh the irony grin

blizy Sun 30-Sep-12 20:09:29

Ledkr- I shall allow myself a few glasses of wine grin. I don't think you are being unreasonable either, I agree with reastie. I hope you can sort it out with Dh. I would
Hot go on holiday with my inlaws or parents, my idea of utter hell.
Nutella cheesecake sounds yum!

wigglesrock Sun 30-Sep-12 20:49:39

blizy I had the odd drink as well, tbh I wasn't up for going out that much then but you should be fine grin

ledkr Nope, Nope and thrice Nope I wouldn't go. Nothing would jeopardise the idea of a holiday with dh and the girls for me. And I went away with my parents a few years ago solely because it was a cheap holiday and it really did cost us nothing. My parents paid for villa and I think the flights cost us all about £200. But more importantly its your idea of a feckin' nighmare. Oh Olivia wore the coolest beanie today from H&M - she looked like a cross between a Gallagher and Gwen Stefani grin

reastie Well done. I've met a few people recently who have told me how much weight I've lost shock I feel like I've lost weight, I think I've rediscovered my collar bones, not to mention hip bones and my clothes feel a lot looser but if I get on the scales I haven't lost an iota hmm

grannyapple hark at you - living the high life - I'm not even going to discuss the lie-in envy grin

Well after twenty years of avoidance - it happened I bumped into a girl I went to school with grin who told me about a school reunion in 2 weeks, unfortunately I'm double booked and out for dinner for friends 40th (yes another one shock) Actually she was lovely and it was a nice catch up but I was thanking my lucky stars I'm not on FaceBook, although am now dying for a nosy blush

reastie Mon 01-Oct-12 07:52:20

wiggles so you don't lose a lb but people keep telling you you've lost weight, I lose nearly 3 stone this year and not a single person has commented [sigh] hmm . Btw you could always join facebook just to nose at other people - you don't have to write stuff up there about your exciting life grin

ledkr I wouldn't say I'm on a diet as such, I've cut down how much I eat though for sure and not really eating anything naughty. I've started having a main meal at lunch (usually a rice or quinoa and tofu/vegetable salady thing when at work) and soup for dinner rather than main meal in the evening. It's the gym that makes the difference with me though I think - it always has, that's why I think I failed before. I still feel very fat though but am only just over half way to pre preg weight.

I'm having a few problems with DH and his 'anger' issues recently. He finally admitted how he behaves isn't on and there is a problem, got himself a CBT anger help book and is reading it but if anything I think he's got worse over the past few weeks. Over the past 3 weeks he's shouted (as in really really shouted v aggressively not just shouting like in an argument type) at Alice as she won't go back to sleep with him at night at least weekly, he's kicked the stairgate in and thrown boxes around the loft whilst shouting and swearing so hard a bit of the plaster (which was only replastered 2 years ago) fell off the ceiling). He used to just lose it very rarely and then straight after he was completely back to normal (like he needed to get it out of his system) but now he's still angry after he shouts/kicks/breaks things too. I'm actually quite itchy about it. If I mention anything he either refuses to talk about it or says he won't instantly get better. I don't know how to deal with it with him and what to say to him about it. I'm worried now he's accepted he has a problem it'll get worse as he will just blame it on the fact he has this issue. I'm feeling sad as I know if he doesn't improve then I will not put up with it forever and I will have to split up with him sad . Sorry for a miserable start to Monday. I just wanted to share as I haven't told anyone in RL and don't really want RL people to know what's going on blush

blizy Mon 01-Oct-12 08:06:00

Reastie- I'm glad he had realised the behaviour is not on. Will he consider counselling or anger management classes? I really feel for you about this, I hope
He sorts himself out for all your sakes. X

Wiggles- I still see a few old school friends, infact I childmind for 3 of them!

Nothing interesting for me to report, i hope you all have a good Monday.

reastie Mon 01-Oct-12 19:02:56

Thanks blizy . He is very resistant to go and see anyone and admit to anyone else he has a problem, so we shall see.

Alice just trying on all of my necklaces at the same time and then putting them neatly in her potty hmm (it's clean btw obv) and then doing the same again!

I'm testing a recipe this week end for mn for the new mn cookbook - they've given me 'ice cream extravaganza' or some such - looks delish. I have to take a picture of the finished product - I'm wondering if it's so they put some of the piccies in the actual book, so think I might try extra hard to make it look half decent!

reastie Wed 03-Oct-12 18:49:29

Helloooooooo <echo>


wigglesrock Wed 03-Oct-12 19:11:04

Why Helloooooo reastie grin how has the start of the week been for you?

All good here, O started Irish dancing after school today, she loved it, so both S & O are in until 4 on a Wednesday - hello life, its me, I think I might be getting you back grin

A is in great form, nattering away, demanding biccies and buuks (books) usually together all the time.

tadjennyp Thu 04-Oct-12 19:13:22

hello, thanks for the new thread deb! I have been crap at keeping up lately as my dps were here for 3 weeks and we're just getting back to normal now. It was lovely actually,though they didn't do much but Dad walked A to school every day and E got to play lots of games. sad don't know when we'll see them again though.

Sorry to hear about all the relationship problems. I agree with ledkr and MizK - it's not worth wasting your whole life with someone if you're never going to be happy. The difference between my relationship with dh and my first dh (who also had an anger problem as we've talked about before) is like chalk and cheese. We're all here for metaphorical hand-holding and general blood-letting.

Your PILs holiday sounds like a week of hell ledkr, I wouldn't want to go either. Mine always have to do something every day, preferably exactly what MIL wants and the atmosphere turns instantly sour if you disagree. YAdefNBU.

S is on fine form, but a little monkey climbing everywhere. No fear at all. Talking of 40th birthdays, wiggs, it's mine in a couple of weeks. Dh is busy arranging a party at our house. If everyone comes, then there would be over 30 children in our house, never mind the adults! shock Please keep fingers crossed that it is still fairly warm by then and the first snow hasn't come!

Hope you all have lovely evenings! Bye for now.

ILovePonyo Thu 04-Oct-12 21:08:52

Hello pals! Havn't posted since before the weekend since I went home to my mums, had a lovely time. Mum got A her own cot bed to go in the spare room, we thought she'd love it but she screamed and screamed the first night, eventually got her to sleep in it, went down no probs the next night! confused

Can I just describe A's massive meltdown today please, it happened at the worst time and don't think she's had a shitfit like it before shock (scuse swearing reastie and others but there really is no other word grin)
We went to visit my supervisor where I used to volunteer, A was asleep when we left but thought she'd be fine, she'd already had a big sleep. Got there, walked in, said hi to people then went to speak to supervisor and A lost it shock crying, flinging herself about, actual loud screaming whilst people were trying to work blush We went in another room and she carried on screaming, if I held her she'd squirm around and pull my hair, if I put her down and scream and want to be picked up. I had to leave after 15mins as it was so bad, I was gutted, have been looking forward to a catch up with my supervisor and it was somewhat cringeworthy too. I said to my friend when describing it afterwards, I really could have told her to shut the fuck up there and then if it wasn't a childrens charity I volunteered at grin wink

I feel better now I've got that out. Really, of all the crappy timing... hmm

ledkr god no to the hol. Just sounds so uncompatable (sp?) - I know I could not go away with dp's family either, plus the cost is the tipping point really. Holidays with people you like can be hard work so def not the inlaws!

reastie hows things? As you know, just because your dh has an anger problem doesn't make its ok for him to get angry and then say "its my anger problem" like it excuses it. It doesn't sound healthy and you don't want A to think its ok/normal in a relationship - but as to what to actually do I'm not sure yet helpful Just hope you're ok, it sounds like a lot to deal with. How was the ice cream thingy?!

wiggles A always says 'bic bic' (biscuit) first thing, she knows shes not getting one but tries it every morning anyway grin Glad you're getting your life back, about time!

tadj I am shock at the 30 children in the house for your birthday - wow!! Glad youre ok and must have been lovely having your parents over, hope you get to see them again soon.

Took A to the Nottingham extravaganza Goose Fair this evening, dp took her on the merry go round because she liked watching it and was nodding that she wanted to go on, as soon as he's paid she started saying "no no no" and they had to get off, he got a refund though!

reastie Fri 05-Oct-12 14:39:42

Hi all

ponyo big sympathies for you with Anya the screaming toddler. Alice has done that with me quite alot at home, but so far not in a place where it would be really embarrassing for me think she's saving that up . You see pre Alice I would eye roll if I saw some toddler behave like that, now I know much better and just feel sympathies for them! Btw Alice is always saying yes to things too then chickening out at the last minute.

tad 30 children in your house??? You must have a big house! I wouldn't fit them all in mine!

blizy when does DH get the results?

wiggles love how O does Irish dancing, makes you sound very Irish grin

Things OK here. DH not lost his temper this week since I last posted, so I guess that's good. Work been quite full on though and working tomorrow too. And in good news I bought a boden dress this week which was 2 sizes less than my clothes size in June AND IT FIT [proud] had to return it as it didn't suit me though

blizy Fri 05-Oct-12 14:57:14

Hi all, yikes to A's meltdown!

Tad- 30 kids shock you are a brave woman!

Wiggles- unused to do Irish dancing when I was O's age. I learnt how to point my toe, I was pretty crap at it grin!

Reastie- well done you, bet you are very proud of yourself!
Dh has an appointment next fri for results <gulp>.

Had a quiet day, no mindees till after school, so I had a haircut and last min shopping for a wedding outfit, that's me all sorted, thank god! Right got to go get the little darlings!

hubbard86 Sun 07-Oct-12 20:33:46

No ones posted since Friday but I hope all ladies and toddlers are ok.

No real news on our front other than Freya runs around like mental now and throws proper throw myself on the floor tantrums when she doesn't get her own way. Toms doing a lot better and is a lot calmer though we still have meltdowns there not as violent or as long.

Can't believe its been over 6months now since I told exdp it was over, but I've met someone and have lost 5 dress sizes in that time and couldn't be happier in myself. Yeah its been hard and I have my guilty moments when I sometimes feel that I should've tried harder and the kids deserve a "normal" family unit but they have me and i do my best even if their dad is really intermittent, that's not my fault and they'll see that.

reastie Mon 08-Oct-12 07:41:50

hubbard it's great to hear your sounding so positive that you made the right decision re: exh, and wowsers to dropping 5 dress sizes - how incredible.

Those watching homeland - we've series linked it and won't watch it till a day or so later than everyone here, so could I please ask either you don't talk about homeland plot lines or write a huge bold warning note before you do so I don't read and get things spoilt? Thank you

deb how close is that coat to fitting now?!

blizy can't be long to Las Vegas now can it?

Quick advice asker - Alice is getting very naughty indeed and does things she knows is naughty and just thinks the naughtier it is the better it is to do, she just laughs and baby signs 'naughty' hmm . So, how do I handle it? Things like flinging her food around the room (and I mean ALL over the room). I tell her it's naughty in a strict (but not shouty) voice and try ignoring her afterwards for a minute, so she knows she won't get attention from it and then explaining what a good girl would do (e.g. Alice needs to give the plate to mummy when you've finished and say finished - she knows that's what she needs to do as she's responded to that before). I wonder if it's as she's just learnt the sign for naughty so thinks it's great fun to be able to use it hmm . Anyway ladies - what do you do in such situs?

blizy Mon 08-Oct-12 12:40:49

Hubbard- I'm do glad things are finally on the up for you.smile

Reastie- I would remove Alice from the situation, if she starts throwing food around remove her from the table.
6 weeks to vegasgrin!

We were at our friends wedding yesterday, it was a fab day. We are lounging about in bed today, recovering from yesterday's over indulgencewink.

Hope everyone is well. X

reastie Mon 08-Oct-12 13:01:03

Blizy Alice is incredibly messy at the table, if I got her out before I got industrial style cleaning on her and taking her bibs off, she will just get food from her hands etc all over the room hmm .

Went to a new music group with Alice this morning, in a church hall on the naicest private road in town - was full of bugaboos in the hall and porche 4x4s in the car park hmm , bit too naice even for me wink and no great chit chat opportunities, have managed to join only on a pay as you go basis (which I'm not suppose to I'm just sneaky ) so I don't have to go every week.

reastie Mon 08-Oct-12 13:02:13

Btw Blizy meant to say love the piccie of you on fb from the wedding. envy of the top (or dress, I can't tell from the pic) you're wearing, it's lovely.

blizy Mon 08-Oct-12 13:38:27

Thanks reastie, it is a dress, just a simple black one with a shrug and brown bow belt. It was second choice as Alfie ripped the dress I boughtangry.

debka Mon 08-Oct-12 14:18:28

Hey everyone,

Been stupid busy here so just checking in before I hurl myself back into the madness that is RL grin hmm

Coat still doesn't bloody fit reastie, my size 14 and 4 inches shorter sister tried it on and it's only a bit too big for her. Am cross. angry << cross face

hubbard glad things are picking up for you smile xxx

Hi and bye to everyone else xxx

wigglesrock Mon 08-Oct-12 16:20:15

Christ, I'd thought youse had all fecked off to Facebook grin

hubbard lovely to hear from you, am sure you are doing a fab job and we too have had some just charming tantrums hmm

debka loads of clothes in the same size or even a size bigger from different shops never fit me. Mr W bought me a coat from Zara a few years ago and it will never fit me even though I'm much thinner now than when I first got it hmm I keep trying it on in vain, its too pretty to get rid of.

reastie take the food of her as soon as she starts - A puts food in her mouth then lets it drop out [shudder] She does it once, she's told off, twice - the food is taken off her until she stops.

blizy yesterday sounds lovely envy grin

Right will catch up later, off to try and get organised for curriculum evening in the girls school, have to try and put an effort in - some of the P1 parents are very serious about education - imagine grin

ILovePonyo Mon 08-Oct-12 17:12:48

Hi all, just posting from the garage as my car packed in today angry In fact it's been a crappy day in general, A didn't sleep last night so ended up in with me with dp on the fold out bed, then the car broke and I spent this morning waiting for rac and getting it into the garage angry now forking out for new tyres and more. An trying to stay positive... Um, at least it's not raining grin

Hubbard wowsers to the weight loss, well done! Glad you and the 2 little'uns are soon well, and that Tom sounds like he's doing better?

Reastie good advice from wiggles there, A still lobs her food sometimes so we say 'no' and take it from her, however she finds it hilarious hmm

Blizy agree you look lovely on that pic and I am envy of your nice relaxing sounding day smile

Better go, booking Car back in for Wednesday grr.

tadjennyp Mon 08-Oct-12 17:53:17

Hello Monday! Well done on keeping it all together and losing all that weight Hubbard! You have done a fab job.

Blizy - you looked lovely in that photo with dh!

Go and add the voice of common sense to the curriculum evening wiggles. Your input will probably be the most useful.

You have also done brilliantly with the weight loss debka. I'm in awe of how well you have done. I haven't lost a thing, no matter how often I walk to school/shops. I bought the shred which you were all raving about last year but it's still in the cellophane at the moment!

Samuel also likes to throw food on the floor reastie. We just take the plate away from him, then take him away from the table if he persists after a second chance. Or I distract him and then he forgets what he was doing and starts eating properly again. smile

So sorry about the car Ponyo. Being without can be such a pain at times. Have you taken A on the tram yet, or the buses? Does she think it's an adventure? Hope you get it all sorted soon.

S is doing a great version of head, shoulders, knees and toes at the moment. He does make me laugh!

Hope your Monday evenings are going swimmingly. smile

reastie Tue 09-Oct-12 18:52:15


I had grannysapples window man come over today to give a price for new windows. He asked how I had heard of him and luckily he didn't ask the name of the recommendation, I would have looked a bit random saying 'yes, my 'friend' called grannyapple' grin

ponyo how's the car (dare I ask) ? What a rubbish day. I hate days like that.

wiggles curriculum evening?! What does that entail?

deb H&M sizes are mad. I've said it before but it's true, they are the worst for odd sizes IMO - I have always varied in there by about 3 sizes whenever I've been in, it's most frustrating as I have to take so much into the changing room as I never know how it's going to come up. I have an H&M mac which is size 20 which only just fitted when I was a size 16.

Went to gym and burnt over 460 kcals today <sticks on gold medal sticker>. No idea if this is much for fit types but tis good work for me.

reastie Tue 09-Oct-12 18:53:24

grannyapple, I didn't mean anything there by putting friend in '' marks, just I meant not RL friend IYKWIM blush <takes foot out of mouth>

tadjennyp Tue 09-Oct-12 19:02:33

460 cals sounds great to me. I only managed 180 on the bike for 25 mins yesterday. Well done reastie!

debka Tue 09-Oct-12 19:07:39

reastie have you paid back your calorie debt in Mars Bars yet like I would have done? grin

ponyo hope thingsare getting better. I bloody hate bloody cars.

Off to sw now, fx i'm a bit closer to getting in that damn and blasted coat.

ILovePonyo Tue 09-Oct-12 19:37:31

Hello, well after my crap day yesterday I have had a good one today, I have news.... I had a job interview and GOT IT!! I only told dp, my mum and one friend as I thought I'd jinx it if I told lots of people hmm but hooray! Its working with children affected by domestic violence so will be working closely with social services (*ledkr*) It is nearly full time so means more nursery for A but is a bit more money which will be good when A is at school.

reastie I got my car back this afternoon, I missed having it but it did mean I've done a lot of walking, no wonder I used to be skinny before I started driving grin I think 460 cals sounds a lot too? Well done!

deb agree with Reast about H&M, the sizes are weird confused Good luck tonight. You'll be in that fecking coat before you know it!

tadj A likes the tram grin and can now say "tram!" excitedly when we see one. I took her on the bus once when she was small and it was traumatic (for me, bloody pushchair and unhelpful people) so have never taken her on again! I like taking her on the tram into town now, I don't bother with the pushchair so she walks or I carry her. Once she nearly ran off the tram as the doors were closing with me sat down inside shock Love the image of doing head, shoulders... A loves it but just laughs when I sing it, she s quite happy to watch me do it by myself hmm

Ooh reastie A had a massive strop this morning and chucked her full bowl of crispsies on the floor, milk and all, because she asked for 'bix' (weetabix) instead. My face was like this angry. I just ignored her and cleaned it up then gave her some bloody bix which she ate. She'd been awake since 5.30 so think she was tired but god its beyond annying isn't it, I was pleased to drop her off at nursery!

Off to clear up then get ready for the great british bake off, night all!

Grannyapple Tue 09-Oct-12 20:06:28

Hi folks...hope all is well?

reastie glad you finally got a quote...hope it was within your expectations? Ha ha no worries re inverted commas etc....I'd have been the same grin

Yay blizy not long now til honeymoon!

Congrats ponyo on the new job...well done!

Not been up to much here...just on the treadmill of N, work, home etc... Got family down visiting next w/e for 4 nights...nice to see them but means N in with us during that time & he is a complete fidget a**e in his sleep so might be a tired grumpy zombie by the time the go!

Oh & ledkr I get on well with MIL but could not stomach a holiday with her...& would prefer to keep it that way!! Time is precious esp in holiday so spending it with them would not wash with me tbh...

reastie Wed 10-Oct-12 15:02:40

I'm a bit in shock - someone I was at school with (we weren't great friends but she was a lovely person) died today giving birth shock sad . Just puts everything into perspective really.

granny quote was about £14/15000 for all the windows. We aren't sure whether to go with him or the other guy but her certainly seemed pretty good. No rush to decide as we don't have the money to pay for it yet (getting it in the next month or so)

Thanks for the nice comments re: my gym session (no I didn't eat a mars deb). I'm there an hour and work bleeding hard!! I can only get there about twice a week at the min so have to make it count!

blizy Wed 10-Oct-12 16:25:48

Oh reastie, how awfully sad sad. That's what happened to my mum when she was giving birth to mesad.

Remember I said my friend was in hospital with a possible tumour/blood clot? Well, she has the all clear (thank god), however she has some sort of brain malfunction that will need surgery. It is not life threatening thankfully. what a relief! <phew>

tadjennyp Wed 10-Oct-12 18:28:15

sad that's so awful reastie. Her poor family too. It definitely gives you pause for thought. thanks

Glad your friend is ok on the one count blizy. Fingers crossed for the surgery.

Hello Granny, hope all the visits go well!

Glad A likes the tram Ponyo I'm still a fan myself we only have 3 minibuses here!

Hope you are all having good evenings.

wigglesrock Wed 10-Oct-12 20:59:01

ponyo congratulations on the new job, lovely news grin

reastie that's very sad, how heartbreaking for her family.

A curriculum meeting is exactly what it says on the tin grin, all the parents head into their childs classroom and get a run down on what the kids are doing for the school year/how you can help them and the teachers grin. S is moving on from dinosaurs later this month and onto WWII and evacuees in particular. Mr W was actually free for the meeting - he usually avoids them like the plague, afraid he might bump into some sketchy characters he has met via work, but he sucked it up and went to the P1 talk - which consisted of reading to the kids, reading some more and then when you're fed up with it read some more grin

Nice brother-in-law is coming home for Christmas (yay) - he has never seen Anna, so he's staying with us from Christmas Eve to New Years Eve (Mr W is working over Christmas so I'm doing the entertaining shock - just going to ply him and his wife with lots of drink and let them get on with it)

blizy Wed 10-Oct-12 21:02:48

Oh yeah, sorry Ponyo, I forgot to congratulate you on the new job. Well done girl! grin

Wiggles- get on the reading! That's good that bil is coming to stay for Xmas.

ILovePonyo Wed 10-Oct-12 21:29:05

Thanks peeps grin am very pleased about new job smile

Reastie that is so shocking and sad. Yes it does make me stop and think about how lucky we are sad How is the baby?

Wiggles well done to you and MrW, good work there by the sounds of it!

Blizy glad your friend is ok.

Got to go back later...

Grannyapple Wed 10-Oct-12 21:42:00

Oh reastie that's awful..defo puts it into perspective...
Window guy called me today....we're getting our windows done next w/e....yay!

Not much to report here...work is mental at the mo (financial y/e) so mega busy...forgot how right it would be with deadlines being part time!!

tadjennyp Thu 11-Oct-12 18:34:45

Completely forgot to congratulate you on the job, Ponyo - well done!

Sounds like it could be fun over Christmas wiggs, hope you enjoy it!

Good luck with the year end stuff granny and hope it calms down for you soon.

A is off school for their parent-teacher conferences so have a friend over to play. Better go and supervise! Have a great evening.

reastie Thu 11-Oct-12 18:59:28

Hi all, I'm just heartbroken by the death of the girl who I was at school with. I didn't even really know her that well at school but she always seemed so lovely, and, let's face it, we've all given birth, it could have been any of us. Just found this article about her and am now in tears sad . Sorry not wanting to lower the mood to ponyos new job but it's just so sad.

ponyo massive congrats - is this the start of onwards and upwards to new things and a new house?!

granny you MUST let me know how the windows go next w/e - I need to know if they are still good grin

blizy glad about your friend (well, not, but glad it's not the worst IYKWIM)

Had to do a fasting blood test this morning - was so hungry!! At least it's done though. Have to wait a week to see if there's anything wrong with me confused

debka Thu 11-Oct-12 22:21:40

reastie I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. How very sad, her poor family sad Makes you realise just how lucky we are.

ponyo well done on the job, that's marvellous smile

blizy what a relief about your friend. When does DH get his results?

Imogen had her first Play Date today, I think S did more playing than she did, Imy can be a right whingeing Mummy's girl. Then cried when we had to leave! She nearly put her tooth through her lip yesterday, has a massive black lump on her lip now with a black bruise on her chin too, looks awful!

Had a lovely lunch out with himself today, went to Wagamamas in Canterbury and pretended to be students grin

blizy Thu 11-Oct-12 22:51:56

Reastie- sending you some hugs. X

Debka- grin at your role playing. Poor imy with her sore lip/chin. Dh gets his results tomorrow <gulp>.

I had a busy day with work, I had 3 little ones (I had my friends dd as a favour) 20 months, 2 yrs and 9 month old. Sheesh, it was knackering! Then 3 boys after school.
Its my dbro's16th birthday, I'm taking him to see Mumford and Sons as his present, his wee face was a picture when I told himsmile.

Right, I'm off to bed ( hopefully sleep for a few hours). Hope you are all doing well?

reastie Fri 12-Oct-12 07:13:59

Just a quickie to say good luck MrBlizy for today, keep us updated please blizy

Grannyapple Fri 12-Oct-12 10:28:26

Aw blizy that's lovely about ur wee bro...& good luck & hope all goes well at the appt today x

reastie ha ha, yes will defo let you know about the windows...will put some pics up once done next Saturday x

wigglesrock Fri 12-Oct-12 11:39:08

blizy hope dh appt is positive. Enjoy Mumford and Sons - my best friend has literally just sold her soul to get tickets for here I don't get them blush

blizy Fri 12-Oct-12 12:31:00

Thanks ladies! I'm a bag of nerves waiting for Dh dr appointment ( its at 4:40).

Are you all doing something nice for the weekend? Dh and I are off out to see Kevin Bridges tonight <excited>. I'll let you know the results later...
Half term starts today here, so I have a super quiet week ahead, just toddler mindee wed/thurs.grin

wigglesrock Fri 12-Oct-12 12:50:23

Oh I like him blizy, we also have a busy weekend shock. Its our best friends 40th, so out to dinner tomorrow night and then he's having a party on Sun afternoon for friends and children grin I plan on spending my 40th a plane ride away from the girls but I'm a bad Mum grin

Have put a few photos up - the extra baby is Emma grin

blizy Fri 12-Oct-12 12:53:03

Wiggles- I like your plans for your 40th, do you have anywhere in mind? I hope you enjoy your parties. I shall have a look at your pic later when I'm on the laptop.

wigglesrock Fri 12-Oct-12 12:55:11

Oh Paris blizy, always Paris grin We were hoping for a sneaky trip this December again but no way we'll manage it, might swing it for the Spring.

Grannyapple Fri 12-Oct-12 13:09:10

Aw lovely pics *wiggs+

I'm hoping to do the same for my 40th in a few years grin...escape, escape, escape!

reastie Fri 12-Oct-12 13:51:51

wiggles love the piccies. I'm hoping my 40th will be alot better than my letdown of a 30th last year, maybe I should start plotting now grin

blizy crossing fingers, hope the wait isn't going too slowly. Btw I have absolutely no idea who this Kevin Bridges person is - maybe I'll google <feels very frumpy and unfashionable>

deb are things on the up with MrDeb yet? Glad you enjoyed your meal.

ledkr Fri 12-Oct-12 15:25:34

Terrible reastie her poor family it just shows how vulnerable we are. I have heard quite a few cases like it through my sister (Neo natal nurse) that's why I was so scared of having d.
blizy this must make you sad too.
congrats on job ponyo which company is it with? Are you supporting them at home or in placement? Will be interesting. I've had some crazy cases lately seems like people won't be told!
Mil has got her manipulative way again over holiday. She is now paying so we have no excuse. I have resigned myself to it but when I board the plane wearing my pink cowboy hat and swigging a Budweiser singing "here we go" she will rue the day she insisted.
I am planning to hire a 2 seater car and bugger off with Ella to the beach everyday ha ha leave them to their exercise and meal plans.

reastie Fri 12-Oct-12 19:42:43

Come on blizy don't keep us waiting re: results! [impatient]

ledkr I grin at the thought of you getting on the aeroplane doing that - please do it!!! I googled where you said you were going to and I can see why you might not be that excited to go. I guess it's nice of them to pay for you all though, although I hope that doesn't mean they feel entitled to have say on who does what the whole time. I hate feeling like I've been manipulated though, really gets under my skin. I'm sure you'll have a lovely time hmm though. Didn't mizk go away with the ILs? Have you got any advice Mizk? What does Ella think about it all? When are you off?

blizy Fri 12-Oct-12 19:48:40

Oops sorry reastie! His results are goodgringringringrin. Got to go waiting on Kevin Bridges starting (Glaswegian comedian,reastie!)

reastie Fri 12-Oct-12 19:49:55

grin that's fab news blizy - have a great night out grin

wigglesrock Fri 12-Oct-12 20:16:24

ledkr just keep a nice steady buzz of alcohol going on, don't let it dip and you'll be grand grin

blizy enjoy tonight and yay for good strong swimmers (too much?? grin)

Mr W was supposed to be home at 5pm and no sign of him yet [grrr] thats another microwave dinner in the dog grin

ledkr Sat 13-Oct-12 10:10:11

Great advice wiggs. Reastie I will not be doing anything I don't want to its not that active place now it's a villa in Portugal in may. I'm quit looking forward to watching their oddness bil gf has already said she can't share cutlery cos of her OCD I reckon it will be like a sit com watching mil trying to control everyone and fil obsess about next meal.
Tbh the only way ill cope is by going off alone and taking early nights with my I pad and a large glass of wine.
D woke last night and came in with us she tried to sleep on my head till 5 before I put her back on her cot till 8. Another tired day then. Does anyone find the babies who hey in the morning? She's great for an hour then starts to whine won't play with toys or anything just wants to whinge

ledkr Sat 13-Oct-12 10:10:46

Blizy great news re dh btw

ILovePonyo Sat 13-Oct-12 10:21:48

Morning smile

Ledkr A woke at 6 and came in with us and slept on me til 8, that is v unusual usually she jumps about after five minutes. She was snoring in my ear tho so I couldn't sleep hmm
Thanks about the job, it's with women's aid, supporting kids in their own homes/after school I think.
If you meant whingey in the morning then yes hmm A doesn't really play with her toys, she's clinging to me a bit and standing in a plastic bowl at the minute. I'm looking forward to hearing about all the weirdness from your hol now grin

Blizy good news! what's next for you and dh new baby making?!

Dp had a gig in Bristol last night so didn't get back til 4am. Aibu thinking he needs to say no to trekking about for gigs for a bit?! He's stressed with work, tired because A is usually up early and will sleep in now but that means A and I are stuck downstairs til he gets up - the shower is next tithe bedroom and noisy iyswim. He's in London soon and it's on a week night hmm

Got to go A keeps opening the freezer and wanting ice cream, we don't have anyconfused don't know where she's got that from.

ILovePonyo Sun 14-Oct-12 19:28:05

Ooh quiet ain't it?! grin

I have a question - A keeps saying "hurt, weewee/poopoo" and has been crying when she wees - I guess it is because she says wee when she's crying. The other day she was quite happy, chatting away and all of a sudden visibly winced and cried because of wee-ing. Her poos are a bit hard so might be hurting too. Should I take her to docs? Don't know if it could be cystitus or something? She drinks ok amounts of water but not loads.

Thanks y'all, hope youre having nice Sunday evenings, A just gone to bed and I'm trying to see if theres anything good on tv tonight (doesn't look like it!)

blizy Sun 14-Oct-12 20:38:37

Ponyo- she might have a wee uti? One o my old mindees used to do that that a lot when she had a uti. Hope you have had a nice weekend?

Kevin Bridges was hilarious! We had a day if doing nothing yesterday and today had mil over for dinner- steak pie Sunday Yum!grin

wigglesrock Sun 14-Oct-12 21:10:55

ponyo I'd take her to GP, could be nothing but as blizy says might be uti - if it possible I would see if you could get a wee sample of her wee grin to bring in, so they can test right away.

blizy glad you enjoyed the show grin

We had a fab time last night, dinner was so yummy and it was a good laugh.

Party today was great, really loud, they had another drumming circle, which the girls loved grin and the bestest cake ever!!

ledkr Sun 14-Oct-12 21:37:52

Ponyo yes definitely get her checked put some sterile cotton wool in get nappy and squeeze out into a sterilised bottle. It could be that she is just aware of going. Delilah Says ouch about everything, Even when I let her go in the swimming pool With her armbands on And the other day when a little boy got a bit close.
Boring day today and a whiney soul destroying baby I even started a thread about it

debka Sun 14-Oct-12 21:51:42

Hey all,

ponyo poor A, listen to the Wise Ones, they all think they know what to do grin Congrats on the job btw, when do you start?

ledkr link to whiny baby thread? Sorry she's being so grim, is she getting enough sleep?

wiggles more info on the cake please!

Had a manic weekend, did a buffet for 50 on Saturday which nearly finished me off, honestly, I have a kitchen the size of a small shoebox, and 2 annoying children! Worked tonight and last night too. BUT today we went to Imogen's first birthday party- Naughty Nancy's from pre school (she snatches, apparently --like Imy doesn't--). It was really sweet, about 10 little girls all v v excited, decorating fairy cakes and playing pass the parcel. I got a bit competitve on Imy's behalf blush. I am so going to be one of those pushy mothers, the shame...

ILovePonyo Sun 14-Oct-12 22:06:58

Thanks everyone, I will make docs appt. blizy what exactly is a urinary tract infection - how is it treated?<clueless> Your weekend sounds lovely! Mine was good ta, nothing too exciting but that was fine with me smile

ledkr GENIUS idea about catching the wee! I saw your thread, meant to comment sorry, might go and bump it now and share some of A's whinging grin

wiggles grin at the drumming circle, sounds like you've had a lovely weekend too.

deb Thanks, I have to wait for my crb and havn't handed in my notice yet so at least 4 weeks til start date. Tomorrow I can tell everyone I've got this new job, only my boss knows at the mo, will be interesting! I can't believe the amount you do buffet wise, I couldn't do that just with A at home with me! Wonderwoman deb wink Love the description of the Naughty Nancy, so funny grin

Speaking of which, we went to a friends birthday and there was A's 4 year old friend there, she gave A her barbie for a bit which A loved, then when she wanted it back A kept whinging "share, shaaare" hmm grin It works both ways you know!

blizy Mon 15-Oct-12 08:21:51

Ponyo- no idea, I just know of itblush! Antibiotics gets rid of it though.

Wow Debka, you were super busy, I don't know how you manage it? I struggle when making dinner for one extra personblush.
How is your sister and your lovely niece's?

Ledkr- embrace the holiday, do your own thing and ditch the weird inlaws. How is Ella now?

Wiggles- glad you had a good weekend, but what is a drumming circle?blush

Hope you all have a good Monday .

ledkr Mon 15-Oct-12 12:06:38

blizy Ella is a lot better thanks. I am going to hire a 2 seater sports car to take in our environs grin and a few bars on the way. It will be an education for Ella when I introduce her to the mediteranean party scene lol.

A drumming circle sound a tad odd i agree,is it like the circle of trust or the magic circle??/ hmm?

UTI is common in girls as the area between bum and urethra is short unlike a boy. Therefore infection can get in easier,as little girls sit in there own shit when in nappies that is probably how they get it. That is my blunt explanation.
You do realise that you could be mn royalty if you casually announce you work for wa dont you?? ponyo

Dh has taken the ginger lunatic to town to get me some presents (good luck with that then) I told him not to waste money on mere trinkets but to take me shopping tomorrow as I need a jacket boots and tops grin

reastie Mon 15-Oct-12 13:49:10

Hi all

ledkr grin to you telling DH not to waste money on mere trinkets grin . Is it your bday coming up or is your DH just exceptionally well trained?

Keep meaning to say and think I've forgotten so far blush delia says hello - it's that pesky open plan work room making her miss mn angry

ponyo did you see GP? WHat did they say?

deb cooking for 50 people?! are you mad! I can barely manage dinner most evenings! Also love the naughty nancy description. Btw I'm on half term next week and the week after if you have a free few hours to do something, no pressure though you busy lady grin

Have bought red, green and gold glitter paint today from sainsbos and am going to try to get Alice to do some 'painting' on blank cards to give DM/PIL as Christmas cards. It's all going to get hideously messy and I'm going to regret this idea aren't I confused [brave]

Has anyone got any idea what they are doing re: families and inlaws etc for christmas? I'm in a tricky situation. Want to go to parents for christmas lunch, I've never not seen them for christmas lunch and we are a close family, plus this year feels a bit more sensitive as I've lost 3 gps in just over a year, 2 of which we always used to have come for lunch every christmas so it'll be our first christmas with no gps there. My parents have had PIL over for christmas lunch a few times in the past but this year just want us/them (they've never said this before so they must genuinely only want us for lunch) but have said they are happy to have PIL over after lunch in the afternoon. DH rung BIL to see if they could have PIL for lunch and they just said no as it was our turn as they had them last year. So we've left it that we will see PIL and BIL etc on boxing day but also have PIL over on christmas afternoon. But it means PIL will be on their own for christmas lunch. I feel really guilty about it and I know when DM finds out she won't let them be on their own and will end out inviting them over (but not especially want them IYKWIM). FWIW I did offer to cook everyone lunch but parents want quiet lunch at their place. Every year since I've known DH aside from last year we've had PIL over for christmas lunch (one year we visited them at their place but all the others either I've cooked or parents have cooked for them) so it's not like we never have them - we pretty much always have them. Just guess I sort of expected BIL family to have them given the nature of why my family want a quiet christmas. Anyone any advice as to whether we ABU or what we can do to please everyone? I really don't want to spend christmas dashing about everywhere to please everyone else, just want a nice laid back family day.

ledkr Mon 15-Oct-12 16:01:07

I hope i'm never someones turn not that I cant see bils point mind you but I like to think I could manage to still enjoy a nice xmas day without being at someones house,id just go to a nice restaurant or something. Light bulb moment. Can you and bil chip in for a nice lunch in a restaurant nearby?

ledkr Mon 15-Oct-12 16:01:36

For pil I mean.

reastie Mon 15-Oct-12 16:13:38

ledkr we would but BILs family I doubt would as they never seem to have any money (or say they don't). Maybe I'll look into us just paying but I'm imagining that would be quite alot to go somewhere nice. I know my DM wouldn't let them be on their own and so we'll prob end out having them but then I feel bad as my family have said specifically they want a quiet lunch with no stress on providing food for guests. I guess whatever there will be someone to feel guilty about! I'll look into the lunch out idea ledkr as I know MIL is a member at a posh gym which is attached to a hotel/restaurant they have raved about before so that would be a good place to book for them.

reastie Mon 15-Oct-12 16:21:10

shock OMG just checked prices and it's £99 per person for lunch on Christmas day there shock <faints>

wigglesrock Mon 15-Oct-12 20:23:55

A drumming circle is hell on earth blizy and ledkr grin A musician my friend knows runs them - he has about 25 different types of drums and lots of percussion type instruments. All the kids and adults that are forced to sit in a circle (obviously) and make a horrendous noise drum grin Going on a Bear Hunt is one of the tunes the kids do - its a bit touchy feely, feathery strokery for me but the kids really, really enjoy it.

Reastie my pils love having Christmas dinner on their own grin Have I got it right - you are seeing them on Christmas Day but they might be eating alone? - See to be honest I wouldn't give it a second thought - and you know me I'm a bit of a martyr to family grin

ponyo A loves Barbie dolls and Barbie books - Barbie is one of her new favourite words - Barbie and move hmm

ledkr Mon 15-Oct-12 20:52:33

Fuck me the drumming circle sound torturous.
It'sy birthday tomorrow I can't believe ill be 29. Dh is taking me shopping so there will be a row he thinks you walk into a shop pick up what you need and leave. Mad fool.
I know why d is naughty, she hates me. Calls dh mum and follows him about. When he took her to bed she scowled at me over his shoulder then snuggled into his neck. Judas!
How's a ponyo

debka Mon 15-Oct-12 21:06:12

ledkr have you had a few? You're even more incoherent than usual! wink grin

wiggles sounds lovely grin actually I'd probably quite enjoy that, I go to Group Therapy remember!

reastie What do YOU want to do at Christmas? You aren't responsible for PILs, let them sort themselves out. <unsympathetic>

S is a massive dolly fan atm, she carries hers about shouting BABY, wipes its bottom with baby wipes, tries to put a nappy on it, and the other day I caught her with her finger in the Sudocrem and a guilty look- Baby was coated in the stuff!

blizy Mon 15-Oct-12 21:08:21

grin at Judas Dilly, they defo know how to play you! Check you out, only 29 an 5 kids- someone has been busywink!
Hope you have a fab day tomorrow and drag Dh around all the shops.grin

Offt wiggles, the drumming circle sounds like such fun!

ILovePonyo Mon 15-Oct-12 21:14:10

Hi all, not been to docs yet, couldn't get an appointment today b'cos I rang up to late (bad mummy) will try again tomorrow but work is busy so it might not be til Thurs. Is that really bad? Shes not been complaining but I will still take her.

ledkr Woop birthday countdown! shock at judas Dilly, aw hope you're not really upset?! Oh I did grin at mn royalty, I always worry about being outed even though I only really post on this thread so would hate that!

reastie £99?!?! bloody hell. I don't think you can please everyone by the sounds of it, and my feeling is be selfish and if you want a nice cosy family xmas, go for it. That sounds like its really easy, I know its not, but sod everyone else in the nicest possible way grin Say hi to delia from me!

wiggles I hate bloody barbie. And I had them and sindys when I was small hmm I'm sure I can off buying them for A for a couple of years though? She does love dolls. Drumming circle sounds... interesting Nuff respect to you for putting up with that grin wink

God dp is clomping around putting me off my mn-ing hmm I swear the man can't sit still unless he's on the laptop, I'm sure he's doing it on purpose to put me off grin
We picked A up from nursery today and managed to spy on her for a minute - she was walking around with a photo of herself from the wall showing it to another little girl saying "mummy. mummy!" (there was a workers hand in the photo she thought was me, it wasn't). Cute though seeing her talking to her 'friend' smile

ILovePonyo Mon 15-Oct-12 21:16:37

deb grin at the dolly and the sudocrem. A likes putting blankets on hers when shes tired.

blizy hows you today? Hope you're ok x

ledkr Mon 15-Oct-12 21:18:27

Deb you reminded me. Dilly stole a doll from toddlers today I didn't notice till we got to the car then couldn't be arsed to fight her, will take it back next week.

ledkr Mon 15-Oct-12 21:22:09

Ponyo take the sample they can dip it to get a clue. A sounds cute chatting to her mate. D has her mate Alice coming on wed as her mum has a meeting shod be funny

ILovePonyo Mon 15-Oct-12 21:29:09

Will deffo take the sample in ledkr - how long do you think for results?

It is cute seeing them with friends isn't it, I sometimes feel bad as A doesn't have a lot of kiddy mates (I only have a couple of mates with kids) so I felt chuffed when I spied her with this little girl! HOpe D and alice have fun smile

debka Mon 15-Oct-12 21:37:07

ponyyo that's cute with A at nursery smile

reastie forgot to say would love to meet up again during half term, any suggestions as to what/where/when? <abdicates responsibility>

reastie Tue 16-Oct-12 07:54:42

deb I'm awaiting going through the diary with DM in the hopes she can take Alice here and there so I can go to the gym so once I know when she can take Alice I'll know when I'm free grin . Will let you know

Re: christmas. Thanks for the comments. Tbh I could be fine with leaving PIL on their own for Christmas lunch blush but DM wouldn't let them as she's all about the meal on christmas being a massive thing and would think it terrible if they were on their own and I know she wouldn't be able to not invite them.

Granny how are the windows?

ponyo don't you get the results straight away? I thought that's one of the things they were testing for when we had to do all those wee tests for mws when pg [clueless guess]

deb grin to sudocream. Alice loves it when we put nappies on her pooh bear and makka pakka! she doesn't have a doll she'll have to wait until christmas . I love how she puts her cuddly toys to 'sleep' on her bed and they all go head and tummy down on the covers to sleep as she sleeps on her tummy so must think everyone/thing does!

ledkr 29 again eh?! Hope you get lots of lovely things and no arguments re: shopping techniques!

blizy Tue 16-Oct-12 08:22:12

Happy 29th birthday ledkr! grin hope Dh spoils you. X

ILovePonyo Tue 16-Oct-12 08:51:09

Happy birthday ledkr!! Enjoy your day (your dh doesn't know what he's in for grin) xxx

debka Tue 16-Oct-12 12:34:51


tadjennyp Tue 16-Oct-12 17:25:13

Happy birthday ledkr! Hope you are having a lovely day. x

wigglesrock Tue 16-Oct-12 19:16:48

Happy Birthday ledkr - hope you have a glass of something nice in your hand xxxx

Grannyapple Tue 16-Oct-12 19:37:10

Happy birthday ledkr...I hope your having lots of wine grin

reastie windows are getting fitted fri & sat this week....looking forward to draught free kitchen & N's room!

Went to London zoo today...was a bit disappointed tbh...Howletts was much better...

ledkr Tue 16-Oct-12 23:32:37

Thanks ladies hic. Dh arranged a curry with all my boys and Ella we left the ginger menace with mum so we could relax. Had fun listening to the boys funny memories off catching them lazier penning our neighbours or shooting BB gun at passers by apparently I was scary momma if I caught them ,who me?
Shopping was successful boots dress top and jacket. I also had jimmy choo perfume (not shoes) humph and benefit make up.
Night night

blizy Wed 17-Oct-12 07:33:22

Ledkr- I'm glad you had a nice birthday, you a scary mum? Nah, I don't believe that!grin

I had a shocking nights sleep last night. I have toddler mindee coming today as overtime sad. Coffee will be my friend today.

The weather here is horrid today, I have no idea what to do with the little one, I am staying clear o soft play as it is half term here. Hmm, I may get the paint/play dough out <brave>. Anyway, I'm off before I bore you all to sleep.

Have a good day y'all!

reastie Wed 17-Oct-12 07:39:36

Just don't get the glitter glue out blizy <shudders at mess made on Monday by Alice>

ledkr sounds like some lovely birthday treats. I can imagine you being a scary mum too wink

granny keep me updated re: windows

had someone over yesterday to quote for turning our dining room and kitchen into one big room - looks like it may be doable on our budget - which means my kitchen design with a big range cooker may be in our sights <faints with excitement>.

ledkr Wed 17-Oct-12 07:44:00

Oh blizy the sleep thing is terrible for you. I'm not a gret sleeper even when dilly lets me and its such am affliction. I know all the bad things hit you in the darkest hours so I can imagine you think about losing Zoe and it must feel terrible.
One think I do is give up trying and read for a bit,sometimes that helps.
I hope you feel ok today

blizy Wed 17-Oct-12 07:56:04

Ledkr- I spent most of the night snuggling Alfie grin.

Reastie- fab news about the kitchen! thanks for the glitter glue warning!

Emski76 Wed 17-Oct-12 12:49:43

Hi all, its me.....can icome in??? (offers cake to all).
HOpeyour all ok.
Sorry about lack of sleep Blizy, but lovely to have Alfie cuddles!! We have lady from Cats Protection coming out to do a home visit tomrorow as we'd like to adopt another cat.
Reastie, fab news about the kitchen!! Think of asll that baking yiu can do in your perfect kitchen! Hhmmm glitter glue, once used with the Rainbows, not to be used again!
Led, glad you had a good birthday. Sounds like you got some lovely presents! How is your little whinger? Noah has an excellent whingy face, he wrinkles up his nose, opens his mouth and says 'aahhhh'. Too cute to be mad at but annoying after a while!
Hi to everyone else!

ledkr Wed 17-Oct-12 20:48:19

Hi ems

Well dh and I have decided that d is a chimpanzee. Awfull day with table climbing throwing and running away. She left monkey music and took off over the carpal then went limp when I grabbed her before taking off again. All the while giggling raucously.
It's lovely having dh here this week we are having fun but I dread being alone with her again. Would help if she naps better,what naps are feb babes having now? D has under an hour about midday

wigglesrock Wed 17-Oct-12 21:41:02

ledkr glad you had a lovely birthday, A has a nap of about an hour sometimes. She completely dropped napping over the summer but deigns to close her eyes if she feels like it and we're in the car at a very specific time shock grin But if my Dad takes her out in her buggy, she'll sleep - a bit young to be bored by her Pa already grin

emski I thought of you today, the girls asked me in detail how our cat died (almost 10 years ago) and I was wondering how you were doing? Great news about Cats Protection visit.

blizy weather was awful here too, girls are on midterm the week of Halloween, which Olivias birthday is in (that was a portent, methinks) so we will be avoiding soft play then too grin I might take Olivia and a friend to the pictures for her birthday. I am officially in the bad birthday books as I told O that her birthday was too soon in the term to have a big class party and she's already been to two shock - she's at another one tomorrow.

reastie my Mum got her dream kitchen last year with a big range and all the trimmings - its very nice and she looooves it.

reastie Thu 18-Oct-12 14:12:56

ledkr Alice has one nap a day, around lunch time but really varies in length from 30 mins - 1.5 hours! But then she sleeps around 8:30pm - maybe 6:30am and often wakes up a few times at night, so we don't get much evenings/uninterrupted nights.

Hi ems . Let us know how you get on with looking into another cat.

blizy hope you slept a bit better last night

Did gymboree this morning but only Alice and one other little girl in the whole class! Seemed really quiet.

Got my blood tests back and I'm not diabetic thank goodness but apparently my iron levels are quite low - this explains why I'm always exhausted and have no energy!

Weight loss not going so well today - I bought some chocolate coated nuts and can't stop eating them . Still, I'm 3 stone 4lbs down now I think grin

deb the only day I'm free in half term is Friday 2nd November - is that any good? [hopeful]

blizy Fri 19-Oct-12 13:23:21

Hi all.

We have received some shit news, Dh had a call from the dr, she was studying his test results and he has low semen motility. He has to go for a repeat test, she said it wouldn't stop us conceiving but it could
Take a long time ( no shit), I am just so disheartened with it all, why do we keep having hurdles thrown in front of us? All
We want is to have a living baby. To top it off AF has arrived today to laugh in my face.

Sorry for offloading, I just need to get it out, I can't tell Dh how I feel. I don't want him to blame himself.

reastie Fri 19-Oct-12 13:27:17

Oh blizy that is rubbish. I am clueless but is there something they can do to help things along in these situations? You have conceived before so you know it can be done, and Zoes little brother or sister will be here in their own good time...it just must be so hard waiting and knowing things might take longer than you hoped. I just don't know what to say as it feels like you've had such a tough time. Have you started the ADs yet btw?

blizy Fri 19-Oct-12 13:43:44

Thanks reastie, I have been taking them for almost 3 weeks now, I don't feel it yet though.

ILovePonyo Fri 19-Oct-12 13:52:40

blizy Im sorry. Especially with AF starting today too sad I just hope they offer as much help as they can, you've been waiting so long already, post on here to us if it helps. (hugs) x x

reastie Fri 19-Oct-12 14:23:06

blizy I thought it could take a good 3 - 4 weeks for them to kick in?

ledkr Fri 19-Oct-12 15:49:49

How shit bliz fucks you right off doesnt it. He can improve his tadpoles though look on the web and tell him to stop smoking a fag with a pint of whiskey in his hand whilst wearing very tight shorts grin
Seriously though honey at least you know why and ex knobhead was told the same and also had broken tails on his swimmers and it took ages but Ella came eventually. Took 2 years but you are nearly there now.

We have just been to see paranormal 4 for anyone who likes a good scare. It is absolutely terrifying we jumped out our skins. I felt travel sick though due to the shakey home video style.

blizy Fri 19-Oct-12 16:33:25

Ledkr, he doesn't wear pants under his kiltwink. I know we can fix it, he doesn't smoke but enjoys a drink some weekends. He is a keeper though, brought me in a bottle of rose, Ben and Jerry's and croissants for brekkie. Bang goes the diet this weekend ha!

I don't find the paranormal films scary, they make me travel sick too! hmm hope you have a nice weekend.

ILovePonyo Fri 19-Oct-12 17:18:03

grin at the kilt Ahh blizy he is a good'un bringing you some treats smile

I took A to doc with wee sample but no urine infection confused she gave her some stuff because she's not pooing everyday but Couldn't do anything else bcos wee is fine.

MizK Fri 19-Oct-12 18:52:56

Hi all, am sneaking back on here whilst supposedly starting dinner in the kitchen haha!

Sorry I've been so rubbish, seriously time is flying past, loads and loads of college work on all the time which is so weird after 18 months of being at home. Loving it though, am very glad I did it. My one day a week in school is so lovely, I can't wait to be a teacher one day! (This is a school with underprivileged children mainly and you know what, they are the brightest, cheekiest little scraps in the world, but its so heartbreaking when you can see the odd one who comes to school a bit dirty or with soles coming off their shoes, really sad but still, its great to be around them all. )
Cass is loving nursery but has the terrible twos already. Eg tonight I told her off for scratching her fork across the table so she screamed No! and threw the fork complete with peas at me... she's a lunatic. Bit me really hard the other day too, the little.......!

Blizy sorry about your bad news, maybe now they have identified the problem they can help you? It must be crap for you, make sure you enjoy those treats you deserve them x
ponyo Amazing news about the job! Showed my sis your latest pics of A on FB when I was commenting, she said that A is literally the cutest baby ever! Then she remembered Cass and had to dig her way out of that one haha!
ledkr happy belated birthday love! I have made friends with a fabulous Scouse bird in her 40s at college and weirdly she reminds me of you.... some of the things she says are so funny and remind me of the things you post smile PS I can only commiserate re the ILs holiday.... at least you KNOW it will be shit and won't be expecting to have actual fun!
reastie yay to schmancy new kitchen, it will be gorgeous I'm sure x
Big waves to wiggles, ems, granny, deb and all you lovely Feb girls, I really do miss coming on here and will do better at keeping up!
Happy Friday all.

ledkr Fri 19-Oct-12 19:24:06

Oh I'll have lots of fun mizk going to hire a car and take Ella out "thanks for free holiday mil"
ponyo Ella has a urine infection came on yesterday bless her it's so horrible.
Have just been swimming with the girls hmm such an ordeal. D got out of pool and ran off slipped over a skidded into pool like a fecking penguin on her belly. Everyone was looking at me.i couldn't get to her in time so she drowned mildly but came up giggling like a hyena.

I'm not sure about bring compared to a gobby scouser in her 40s when only 29 how very dare you.

tadjennyp Fri 19-Oct-12 19:46:32

Sorry about your news blizy - that's crap for you. Hope you get some great advice from the docs and it works really soon.

Glad college is going great for you MizK! Whereabouts is the school you are working?

That sounds quite scary at the pool ledkr! Just the sort of thing Sammy does too.

Glad you are not diabetic reastie, get taking floradix.

Love those photos of A Ponyo!

Good luck with the cat adoption Ems!

Got to find some time to clean my house for my birthday party tomorrow. Apparently it might snow so my dreams of kicking the kids into the garden are taking a rethink!

Hello to everyone else and hope you are having a lovely Friday evening.

ILovePonyo Fri 19-Oct-12 20:33:27

Evening! Just having a lovely wine whilst dp cooks burgers grin awaiting the new walking dead starting later tonight, exciting! Its on at 10pm so I'll be staying up 'late' (for me), hope I don't fall asleep.

MizK massive grin at your sis dropping herself in it, tell her A isn't as cute when shes screeching/whinging haha. Pleased your course is going well, what a relief C has settled into nursery, bet she's head toddler there now running the show!

ledkr I did a proper 'lol' at D's penguin impression, that is so funny grin Poor Ella hope her infection clears up soon. Dunno whats up with A's wee tho confused

<waves> at emski are you getting a cat or a kitten? Exciting! You always sound so positive, I'm always whinging about A's (ahem) whinging blush but you make N sound really cute when he does it smile

tadj ooh happy birthday for tomorrow! Snow, oh dear, is it going to be freezing for months where you are then?

A's been on good form today, she keeps singing a song where one of the words is 'sleeping' so think its the sleeping bunnies one hmm its funny, she'll sing away and then realise I'm watching and go all shy and look embarrassed grin Off to check on my dinner, have a good night all

ILovePonyo Fri 19-Oct-12 20:33:57

Ooh mizK is your phone working yet?!

ledkr Fri 19-Oct-12 20:44:04

Oh ponyo I'm so glad you posted about walking dead we thought it was Sunday. Is anyone else enjoying the new homeland? I'm positively obsessed

blizy Fri 19-Oct-12 20:48:55

Looking forward to walking dead, we are recording it, so no spoilers please!
We are watching strike back, love it!

Ledkr, hope Ella is feeling better soon. I also grin at Dilly doing the penguin, must have been scary though.

Tad, I hope you enjoy the party tomorrow and the snow stays away.

Mizk, sounds like you are having a great time with college. I'm glad C has settled
Well into nursery. I agree with your sis, Anya is the cutest (except for Zwink).

ledkr Fri 19-Oct-12 21:19:36

Not too scary tbh as she can almost swim but so embarrassing cos she is quite little so looks like I don't care a hoot.
Just had lush tea of fajitas feel really fat now blush

ILovePonyo Fri 19-Oct-12 21:25:10

Ahh thanks folks for nice comments about A smile

Blizy and ledkr not long now!! Me and dp have been geeks reading the comics graphic novels winkhmm over the summer, it's very different from the series.

Ledkr we had burgers AND have pudding, I'm being a right fatty tonight grin

ledkr Fri 19-Oct-12 23:08:36

I am reading one of the books now. It was good wasn't it apart from the rubbish pg bump oh and Ella calling about fifty times

blizy Fri 19-Oct-12 23:39:30

Yeah, it was good ledkr! The bump was crap though, especially the belly buttongrin.

Oh, I can top you all on crap food. I had stuffed crust pizza, half a tub of Ben and Jerry's, maltesers and a bottle of wineblush <fat pig alert>.

Meant to say earlier, Emski I hope the visit from the cat protection people goes well. Are you hoping to adopt an adult or kitten? Exciting times!

ILovePonyo Sat 20-Oct-12 09:18:17

Morning! A was up at 6 and is now yawning hmm

Walking dead was good wasnt it! I noticed the bump too, she was kind of holding it on when she ran which made it look even more fake!

Blizy yum your dinner sounded tasty grin

We might take a trip to Matlock today, hope it doesn't rain... Hope everyone has a nice Saturday smile

ledkr Sat 20-Oct-12 09:18:20

Just watched it again cos was interrupted by Ella dilly was playing but looked up a few times and said ouch! Think my inappropriate tv days are over hmm

ledkr Sat 20-Oct-12 09:20:10

D was up before 7 and is also tired and grumpy HAVE A BASTARD LIE IN then grr

ILovePonyo Sat 20-Oct-12 09:23:35

I know ledkr, A moans and cries and I have told her she needs to sleep later but funnily enough it doesn't work confused She really is much better if she sleeps til 7 tho!

I remember when A was up late one night , I put walking dead on and she just stared at the tv, really interested. Dp pointed out we prob shouldn't let her watch it grin At least when they're little babies you can watch stuff like that an they are oblivious!

Emski76 Sat 20-Oct-12 17:33:57

Hi all
Blizy, I'm so sorry about dh crappy news. Tho at least the docs know so hopefully you'll get some help (clutching at straws). We didnt pick up the cat as she has a swollen weepy eye. Her sister has cat herpes so the cat lady is taking her to the vets in the morning. I'm hoping she hasnt got herpes cos we won't be able to take her and I've kinda falln for her! Dh was his usual passive non emotional self when I told him so I cried.
Led, loving the swimming pool penguin story. I've started taking Noah to toddler swim on a Friday and he loves it. The teacher encouraged me to let go of him in the pool as he has arm bands.he loves it at first then just says 'mummy, mummy, mum, mum' until I hold him again!
Ponyo, I make Noah some cutebut sometimes he is a monster, altho compared to his brother at the moment he's an angel.
Ben is being an absolute little shit at the moment, after talking to several people about it, I've come to the conclusion that hes do well behaved at school that he lets all the bad out at home.
MizK, glad your course is going well. I barely have time to work on mine at the moment!

I'm feeling very used and abused at the moment. I do literally everything in our house, dh does nothing, and I'm starting to crack under the pressure. Just stormed out of the kitchen because Ben complained his pizza was told hot, the moaned because I took the last piece. Very immature but it was coming! I hid in the bedroom with the iPad and a glass of wine but the buggers still found me!

wigglesrock Sat 20-Oct-12 22:57:14

blizy fuck a duck with the shitty news sad, as everyone else has said you'll get there, take a bit of time but you will get there - I piggy (think its supposed to be pinky) promise as Sofia would say.

ledkr loving Homeland too, won't say any more - nods to reastie who is watching it at her leisure grin

Emski I hide out several times a day, usually under the auspices of cleaning something or other xxx

tad hope you had a brilliant day!!!!

Anna is on antibiotics for a chest infection. She has had a niggly cough for a bit and turned chesty a few days ago. I rang to speak to GP and was summoned for an urgent appointment - whooping cough panic has set in here.

Big wave and night night. PS Is anyone else watching Cuckoo?

ledkr Sun 21-Oct-12 02:39:44

Look at me just got in woo! I may be the eldest but I'm still partying when you young uns are in bed.
Actually it was a bit shit and I felt irritated with all the pissed up people and having to stand whilst everyone ate greasy food and had panic attacks cos I wasn't. Dh drank too much as usual so is snoring away next to me as I type and sip herbal tea grin rock and roll.

tadjennyp Mon 22-Oct-12 19:30:46

Dh organised a lovely birthday party! A couple of families couldn't make it because of sickness which meant the house wasn't overrun but the food was gorgeous and we all had a great time. It was a nice way to celebrate being 40. grin

The snow held off till today! Anna has a field trip to the local library and the big park downtown to find bugs. I don't think they will find any bugs, tbh. Hope your Anna gets better really soon wiggs. It will snow off and on till May ponyo.

Hope your dh takes notice of you and starts pulling his weight a bit more Emski. For what it's worth, E is also being a pain in the bum at the moment. Takes forever to do what you ask him, never concentrates on what he's doing so spills food everywhere. He is doing my head in! I hope you get the cat you want too.

Better make lunch, have a great evening everyone!

reastie Wed 24-Oct-12 18:49:16

Hi all

I can't believe I haven't posted for so long this dropped off my 'I'm on' threads shock must try harder

Granny how are the windows? please tell all <excited>

ledkr hope you've now recovered from your night out. I find being awake after 10pm is the most rock and roll I manage nowadays hmm . When is the great PIL vacation going on btw?

tad glad the party went well - life has just begun, hey!

wiggles hope Anna is now on the mend from the chest infection. Btw we are now watching the new series of 'Fringe' on DVD grin , oh, and I've never heard of cuckoo

Those watching 'the waking dead' :is it on sky then? I only have freeview and can't watch it yet <stamps foot> . NO SPOILERS PLEASE no spoilers also for homeland please - we're currently half way through the second episode.

ems FWIW I was talking to a friend today who was complaining about how little her DH does in the home too. We seem (as women) to think we can have it all, but we're not, we're just doing it all! <gets off feminism soap box>. My DH can be good with some chores (ie he's not bad at hanging the washing up) but he'd never think of dusting or cleaning the bathroom etc. It's angry as we used to share things really evenly housework wise, but I've just slowly been taking on more and more.

Finally Alice is starting to talk alot more, her current favourite is 'poo-ey'! Am on half term this week so having a lovely time out with Alice doing various things. It's so lovely not to be so shattered all the time with all the pressure from work I could get used to this !

Grannyapple Thu 25-Oct-12 09:15:22

reastie windows are great & noticing a differen e with the heat & noise reduction already. I'm in annual from this afternoon for a whole week (woo hoo) so will post some pics of he finish this afternoon when I'm home. Yay to new words from Alice...Nate seems to be a new word every day at the minute, tho my fave is "dadda work" when he see dh leave the house or car in the morning when I drop him at train stn....too cute!

blizy you must be getting all prepped & excited for impending honeymoon...have an absolute ball if we don't see you on here before you go xx

blizy Thu 25-Oct-12 22:05:34

Oh my, it's very quiet in here this week. Where have you all gone?

Wiggles. Hope Anna is better.

I am grin at the babies new words, they are all growing so fast!

Not much to report from me, I was just working all week. Dh and I are off out tomorrow night for dinner to celebrate our 10 year anniversary of getting togethergrin.

Granny- Vegas is not until 26th nov -< excited>

Grannyapple Thu 25-Oct-12 22:23:45

Ooh apologies blizy I had it in my head that you were going on 5th nov for some reason. Oh well, at least you've got a whole month to get organised for the fab trip grin.

Yes, v quiet here these days, eh?

Grannyapple Thu 25-Oct-12 22:27:12

Ps enjoy your 10yr anniversary celebratory dinner!

We celebrated our 12yr wedding anniversary last w/e...just hit me actually that dh & I have been together 18yrs this Xmas eve...that's actually half of my life shock

Sorry, haven't posted in ages! DH spilled water on my tablet so I'm offline while he has the laptop at work during the day.

L is also learning a lot of new words: cracker, TV, cheerio (the cereal) - the important things in life. grin He's bloody teething AGAIN, tired, grumpy and moody. I'm getting a bit fed up of staying at home and have a phone interview next week. Well done to those who are doing it permanently, sometimes I want to lock myself in the bathroom by the time DH turns up in the evening.

blizy - hope you've had a lovely night!

ems - DH is slacking on the housework now that I'm at home. It's nearly impossible to do it during the day with L hanging about. TBH, I let a lot of it go in the evenings, I can't be arsed to do housework while he sits around. I'm shattered from L at the end of the day.

Emski76 Sat 27-Oct-12 06:52:02

Hi all
It has been very quiet on here this week!
American, my dh is incredibly lazy, will help if asked and moaned at tho! I blame his mother! I don't do any housework in the evenings, that's my time for relaxing or studying, am struggling to keep up with the housework but being house proud stopped when I had children! Good luck with the job hunting. I couldn't be home with the kids all day everyday, it woud drive my potty!
Blizy, happy anniversary!
Reastie, i def agree re having it all. I think we were tricked. It's not having it all, it's doing it all!

Hi to all, hope your all ok.

ledkr Sat 27-Oct-12 10:37:42

Hi all just back From my hols with my mate a d her dds I shall summarise.
Night one on the big caravan. Dds stil chatting at 2am I shout at them then finally sleep. 4am mate wakese to tell me she is ill hmm I don't go back to sleep.
Day 2 I look after 4 kids whilst mate recuperates ok though as plenty of activities for them to do.
Day 3 bit of tension with mate who wants to give kids crumpets and cheese for their dinner and I don't wanting to eat shit.
That evening her dd pukes all over the dance floor when we were having a really good night.
Day 4 older dds start to bicker and mates dd is positively nasty to my els grrr. Long old day then spend evening trying to stay at disco late for the older ones which involves endlessly chasing dilly from running into arcade and bar angry
Am glad to be home but dh is being a bit wankerish even though he has had all week free. I have a raging cold and am staying in bloody bed.
Hope you are all stil lovely x

wigglesrock Sun 28-Oct-12 19:39:11

ledkr Christ sounds like a bit of a nightmare grin, hope you're feeling better

blizy you must be getting so excited re trip. Sending love for today xxxx

Have had busy week and weekend here, Olivias birthday is this week, so we had a party yesterday and am having some school friends round tomorrow shock Its a bit of a Brave sponsored birthday grin, she has got some really cool dolls and books.

Think Anna may have had a bit of a bug, as opposed to an infection, she is also teething so she's not in the best of form and I don't think we'll mention her over reaction to Olivia getting new toys blush All together now miiiiiiine grin

The girls are off this week, so hopefully weather will improve and we'll get out and about.

Ps Re Mr W and housework - he does whatever I tell him to wink I blame his Mum grin

reastie Mon 29-Oct-12 14:26:16

Hi all

Ledkr sounds like you need a holiday to get over the holiday shock . Hope the cold is getting better.

Ems has the new cat arrived yet?

Wiggles happy birthday to Olivia - seems like there's always a birthday at your place wink

Got my blood test back and my iron level is 7 shock - no wonder I'm so blinking tired all the time and have no energy I'll just have to eat lots of dark chocolate

Had MIL visit at week end and Alice cried and cried and clung to me for ages crying, even half an hour or so later she'd suddenly go all quivery lipped and not leave my lap. WIBU to just stop MIL from looking after her a while whilst I work? She hasn't for a while anyway due to health but was due to come back next week. I just feel I can't leave Alice with her whilst she seems so upset about it. DH will probably tell me I'm making a fuss over nothing, but she's had Alice on and off since January yet she still screams when she thinks I might leave her with MIL, it's really upsetting me. You can tell me IABU if you like and I should just keep leaving her screaming if you like, I don't mind.

debka Mon 29-Oct-12 17:13:27

Sorry I've been AWOL, been at Tatton Park with himself and my mini entourage.

Reastie DO NOT leave your poor wee Alice screaming with mil. Just don't do it any more. You have a million reasons not to (health etc). FWIW I leave S with my aunt and my mum on a regular basis and she NEVER cries, in fact she says bye bye to me and then runs in. Glad you're enjoying your half term smile

tad happy birthday! Snow already, ooooooo envy

ledkr sounds awful, can't believe you stuck it out till the bitter end.

It's taken me all afternoon to write this, I'm trying to catch up with everything after our time away. Now Imy's bellowing, gotta go, back later (going to theatre tonight to see the Vagina Monologues, ought I put my dungarees on? wink)

Emski76 Tue 30-Oct-12 12:32:26

Hi all
Reastie, I would be concerned about Alice's reaction to mil, tho do you think its because she knows that mil arriving means you'll be going? Noah doesn't cry with mil or nursery at the moment but does thru phases every now and then.

Deb, the Vagina Monologues is hilarious!! Close to the mark but very funny.

Molly the cat arrived on Sunday evening, she is lovely and cute and very affectionate. I've spent much of the last two nights with her trying to snuggle into my head! She loves a cuddle but wants to be sooo close. I fell asleep at some point last night with her cuddling and padding into the back of my head!

Led, sounds like a rubbish break!

I'm off work tomorrow, yippee, hoping to take Ben to Crealy in Devon for a fun day out. Fingers crossed it doesn't rain!!

blizy Tue 30-Oct-12 13:09:50

Hi ladies,

ledkr, god that holiday sounds grim! Hope you are feeling better?

wiggles, thank you, as always. Happy birthday to Olivia, is she 5 now? Hope you are all enjoying the school holiday.

reastie, I wouldn't leave A with your mil. I would be a bit worried about her reaction tbh. What does mil do when Alice is so upset? Hoe you are enjoying the holiday.

debka, How was the Vagina monologues?

emski, Molly sounds so cute, I love my Alfie cuddles at night, he snuggles up into my back. Keeps me toasty warm grin.

Not much to report here, I had a busy weekend. Dinner on friday and our friend's leaving party on sat (it was a fab night). Another friend's 30th party this saturday too.

I was back at the DR yesterday, I have more AD's. They are really beginning to work, it is so good to feel a bit more normal again smile.

reastie Tue 30-Oct-12 16:28:17

deb I thought of you yesterday - I got DH to dig out some pre preg coats for me from the loft - there were 2 H&M ones - one is a size 16 and fits me just the other is a size 20 and is too tight hmm - so hope that makes you feel better about your incredibly teeny coat. Hope you enjoyed the monologues.

Ems yay to Molly cat grin

Blizy glad the ADs are helping you, that's great news for you. your week end sounds nice too.

Thanks for your comments re: Alice. Tbh I was expecting you all to tell me IWBU and should just leave her. I'll have to now pluck up to courage to talk to DH about it.

tadjennyp Tue 30-Oct-12 16:28:56

Glad Olivia had a great party wiggles.

Sorry about that holiday ledkr, sounds dreadful.

Yay to Molly the cat Em!

I don't see why you should do all the housework expat, if dh won't lift a finger to help you. Hope you're not getting any residual weather from Sandy.

How were the Vagina Monologues, deb? I thought crotchless knickers might be appropriate attire! wink blush

I'm glad your ADs are working now reastie. Do you have any back-up plans for care if you can't leave her with MIL? We just put S into daycare one morning a week so I could volunteer in A's school, but apparently he was screaming his head off this morning when dh dropped him off. sad

Have good Tuesdays everyone, going to grab a coffee before I go into school.

tadjennyp Tue 30-Oct-12 16:31:04

Sorry, I totally misread that - I'm glad the ADs are working for you blizy, not reastie hmm Perhaps I shouldn't go in and help with reading group. Yay to all the 30th birthday parties too!

wigglesrock Tue 30-Oct-12 19:39:42

blizy yes, Olivia is 5 today and I am inconsolable blush, seriously my little non sleeping clinging baby is 5 and I'm helping her colour in vampire masks hmm - that was a fast 5 years - didn't feckin' seem like it at the time but can't believe that she's in P1 and has a favourite member of One Direction grin Really glad the ADs are kicking in.

emski yay for Molly the cat! Fingers crossed for dry day tomorrow.

Had all 4 girls at soft play this morning, Anna was a force of nature to say the least. I nipped into the shops before we went, unfortunately I had made the rookie error of telling her we were going to Funky Monkeys so as soon as we headed into Sainsbos she screamed and screamed and kicked and kicked and made an unholy show of herself. Sofia was mortified grin especially when I just put the shopping back and carried Anna out under my arm and told her off "infront of everyone"!!!! Although ended up having a lovely morning and Olivia had a birthday tea at my Mums, this is our her third birthday cake in as many days shock

wiggles - 5?! shock I can't believe it myself. Happy birthday to O. I don't blame you for being inconsolable, I can't believe our tiny babies are going to be 2 in a few months.

reastie - YANBU. Does your DH ever do the drop-off and does she react the same way? She seems very anxious around MIL - continuing to leave her with MIL is not going to help it. How are you functioning with an iron level of 7? shock Mine dropped to 12 (bottom of the normal range) earlier in the year and I could certainly feel a difference. Are you on tablets?

ledkr - Holiday sounds like a nightmare, hope you had plenty of wine to cope!

Ems - one of our cats used to sleep on my pillow wrapped around my head when she was a kitten. As she got bigger, there was only a tiny corner of the pillow left for my head. grin

To be fair, DH will help with the housework if I ask - but I'm irritated that I have to ask. He's getting better about leaving clothes and crockery lying about (my two bugbears) and does the washing without being asked when all of his clothes are dirty. I hate cleaning so much that L will be helping as soon as he's able - his future partner(s) will thank me. grin

reastie Wed 31-Oct-12 18:20:28

American yes I do feel pretty rubbish it has to be said! At least there's a reason why i'm so tired/wobbly/headachey all the time and it's not just me IYKWIM. I'm on herbal iron tabs as the GP ones upset my stomach, I'm also on loads of iron foods now too grin .

Hope you're all having a great Halloween. No trick or treaters here yet .

Wiggles love the 3 cakes in 3 days envy

Well, spoke to DH re: mil looking after Alice. He has grudgingly agreed to it on the basis she comes over whilst he looks after Alice when I'm working to get her used to MIL more, which is fine. DH blames me for the fact Alice cries when MIL looks after her as it's apparently because MIL doesn't see Alice as much as my DM that she gets upset hmm despite the fact I left Alice last week with my sister who hasn't seen her for weeks and dumped her with a friend she doesn't know very well the other day and she didn't bat an eye . Tbh I think it's as MIL is quite, erm, OTT and Alice just isn't used to the intensity and in-your-faceness and finds it too much and wants her own space etc more IYKIWM. Hopefully MIL will be OK about it, surely she should understand why we're not happy at the minute leaving DD with her when it upsets her? <crosses fingers> . Just hope this does work as if it goes on and on in the long term will have to rethink as the current arrangement without her won't work in the long term.

ILovePonyo Thu 01-Nov-12 14:20:16

Hello, I've not been on for ages, A is currently snoozing so I'm doing a quick post! Poor old A has a really red sore bum, and has been doing lots of runny stinking poos, I'm guessing its her teeth sad I'm off to buy some metanium (?) nappy cream later as I remember it working well before. I also ran out of nappies earlier when she'd done a gross poo, had to run to tesco nearby with my stinking baby blush grin

reastie well done talking to dh about mil and A, you're doing the right thing. Thats rubbish about A crying b'cos she doesn't see mil as much, A doesn't see my mum often (maybe every fortnight) but she goes straight to her no crying.

wiggles O is 5?! Aww happy birthday to her smile I laughed at th image of A showing you up in the supermarket grin

tadj hope you're feeling ok about S being in daycare, A used to cry most times I dropped her off when she started but its usually whilst I was still there, I'm sure S was fine once you'd gone (in the nicest possible way!)

emski aww your cat sounds sweet smile

blizy loved the pic of Alfie in his halloween costume, it was hilarious, he's such a handsome boy!

I'm going to go and try and put some new pics of A on my profile now. PIL visiting this weekend, think I have to go swimming with them and A and her cousin, yikes shock

ILovePonyo Thu 01-Nov-12 14:34:18

Put a couple of pics of A up smile

tadjennyp Thu 01-Nov-12 16:36:49

Lovely photos Ponyo! A is such a cutie. I still have loads of photos to put up but am always on the netbook and they are on the PC. I do have a couple of cool photos of the Goonies house and I will get them up there, promise! Metanium is great stuff and we have just run out now. Hope her bum is better soon. Hope you are all having a lovely evening!

wigglesrock Thu 01-Nov-12 20:11:55

ponyo gorgeous photos, A is beautiful, really and she looks full of fun grin

All good here, finally coming to the end of Olivias birthday week hmm, had some friends round this morning and could now open my own Brave store to rival Disney grin

S and O are at my Mums tonight for a sleepover and then my Mum and Dad are taking them to the cinema tomorrow, so Mr W and I are watching crap films and having a lovely time!! Mr W has lost a bit of weight recently and shaved all his hair off - its like having a new husband wink

blizy Sat 03-Nov-12 00:07:52

Oh wiggles, she will always be your baby, they all will. Hope you are all well. X

Tad, how's the snow?

Ponyo, Anya is thee cutest little girl ever (well, except for zoewink).

Had a good wee day, sil was in London getting new hair (she has alopecia) it is fantastic! So happy for her. Dh and some chilli beef stir cry for dinner washed given with some rise wine and the walking dead. Think it might be the AD's but I'm a bit drunk after 2 small glasses of wine! What's that all about? At least I'm a cheap date nowgrin.

Right I'm off to sleep now, hope you are all well and have a good weekend.smile

ledkr Sun 04-Nov-12 19:38:16

Hi all I have read up but forgive me for not commenting am just recovering from epic pil visit thurs to today but to be fair babysitting twice so not too bad.
Me and dh had a dirty night in reading Friday after his sgt test so hotel on the police hey. We went for a man v food type Mexican meal and cocktails then to a club where we drank more and took the piss out of everyone. The hotel was so posh that it was fifteen quid each for breakfast needless to say we went to mc ds.
Pil were very good with d and did lots of clearing up etc but they didn't chop on anything for food and even walked around morrisons telling me what I needed to replace that they'd scoffed. Is it me?
Took Ella up the hill last night and we sat in the camper watching all the fireworks drinking hot choc how funny eh
Hope you are all well and wiggs gets over her girls growing up.
reastie I have just got back from first gym session I feel knackered

reastie Mon 05-Nov-12 07:32:31

Ledkr sounds like a lovely week end. Not surprised you're knackered after the gym - it's tiring work! I've had to give up the gym temporarily as my anaemia is so bad sad , but I'll be back I hope in a few weeks, hoping I don't put on any weight <crosses fingers>

blizy sounds like you're week end was nice too. Loved the piccies of Alfie, especially the Haloween ones

In the spirit of ponyo I too have stuck a couple of recentish piccies of Alice up.

Wiggles how did MrW lose weight then <hopes for tips> ?

Ponyo hope Anyas sore bum is being sorted out confused

Alice has a cold and has been up alot over the past 3 nights. DH has been up with her, not me, as I'm so tired all the time from low iron. I feel really guilty not helping though and DH lost it for most of Saturday night - banging doors so much the house shook and shouting aggressively at Alice several times. I'm scared of bringing it up should he tell me it's my fault because I didn't help out look after Alice in the night and I feel really guilty about it and know he feels annoyed about it and I feel bad I didn't intervene at the time, but at the same time I know it's really really not on to shout like that at her, his anger issues clearly aren't getting better hmm

ledkr Mon 05-Nov-12 15:01:12

Reastie does he know that his behaviour constitutes emotional abuse under the children's act? Maybe he should be told that if neighbours reported him he could be investigated. Not judging btw but worth telling him. Poor Alice being yelled at when poorly.
Why don't you kick his arse out to spare room and let her snuggle in with you so you don't have to get up. I had low iron when pg it's awful did you try the liquid stuff I can't Remember what it's called now but very gentle on tummy

reastie Mon 05-Nov-12 15:29:05

ledkr thanks and shock . Do you know of a website that explicitly and unquestionably says this so I can show DH and he might actually believe me? I have to say I hadn't quite realised it was that bad and it has shocked me but in a good way.Most of the time he thinks I'm just blowing everything out of proportion. He knows his behaviour isn't good or right but at the same time from what I can gauge his DF behaved/s the same way so to him it's normalised. I am quite useless really with things like getting up in the night, mainly as DH can just sleep anywhere/anytime and if I'm up it takes me hours to get back to sleep and when I was getting up with Alice at night I was making myself ill from lack of sleep. I don't know what the next stage would be for DH - he has bought and read a book on techniques for dealing with anger (after a conversation we had). I'm wondering know whether I should insist he visits the GP to get face to face help but I don't know how long I should give him to try out the books techniques - I don't know if I'm being fair 2/3 months after buying the book I should expect him to be perfect but equally I don't know how to deal with his outbursts when they happen. Any advice would be really welcome. Sorry, wasn't intending on sharing all that blush .My iron level is 7 confused . I'm on tummy friendly floradix but not quite a full dose as even that upsets my tummy. Also loads of dried fruit/watercress etc.

Argh, Alice has nap resisted all day despite being ill and obviously tired. I've taken her for 2 walks to get her to sleep but she just screamed the whole time. She's non stop moaning and have no idea what to do with her!!

ledkr Mon 05-Nov-12 16:01:15

Metatone is that iron stuff.
Thing is I am a shouty angry momma but not at the dc I walk away and have good rant. I am also terrible if woken and dh does a lot of night wakes because of it. So to be fair he probably is knackered doing it all. Have you considered having her in with you to give everyone a breather.
A google will give you the details of the children's act look at reasons for a cp enquiry or plan youisy know all this from your safeguarding stuff at work

reastie Mon 05-Nov-12 16:21:18

Ledkr I've tried sleeping with Alice in the bed but I just can't sleep - I panic I'll roll over and squash her (I move alot when I sleep) or I'll push the covers over her head blush plus I'm a bad sleeper and often have talk radio on for prolonged periods in the night which disturbs her (can't wear headphones as dodgy ears). I've tried but it doesn't work. Thing is though you (I think( are a shouty person overall IYKWIM, DH is an otherwise quiet and placid person and then will suddenly uncharacteristically lose it - that's what I find worrying as at least everyone knows what you're like. That's not explaining well is it. Googled childrens act and NSPCC talked about it having to be 'frequent' to class as abuse - I don't know what would be classed as frequent confused

MizK Mon 05-Nov-12 17:37:07

Hey just having a quick recap on phone so will just wave to you all...
reastie just had to give my two pence worth (generous estimate, ha!) On sitch with DH.
What worries me is that it sounds like you are scared to intervene when he screams at A.
You shouldn't have to feel afraid of telling him when he's wrong, particularly when it concerns your baby.
This will not improve without considerable effort from him, and it seems like you are going to have to lay down the law.
He shouldn't need evidence to convince him that shouting and tearing through the house banging doors is wrong, it upsets you so goodness knows how it affects A.
I do feel for you and wish I knew how you could sort it, but you must put A before anything and anyone else, you are a fab mum and you will figure it all out xxxx
(If there was any hint of bossiness or judgeyness, please believe its not deliberate, just trying to type between doing 100 other things)
Love to you all, feb girls and babies xxx

ILovePonyo Mon 05-Nov-12 22:18:30

Evening all, took A to the fireworks tonight which she liked but much preferred the tacky rides at the fair that was also there hmm

reastie mama ledkr is right, I think (in my very humble opinion) frequently is more than once or twice. Its worrying you and thats enought really? I dont know what the answer is but like Mizk says, you shoudlnt have to justify not wanting him to be shouting at A. She is still small and you don't want her to 'get used' to his behaviour as sh gets older do you? Sending you a (hug), oh and A is super cute on your pics as always smile

ledkr your weekend sounded fab, we had pil up too who weren't too bad except for mil talking about the funeral of someone they know who had killed himself recently, and saying how its worse when someone dies like that rather than of natural causes hmm I didn't know what to say so just ignored her, maybe I would have agreed before my dad died but no really v appropriate shock Oh and making sneaky comments about my weight but maybe that was just me.

Night all! Off to bed soon. reastie hope you're ok and A sleeps well x x

ledkr Mon 05-Nov-12 22:46:09

Reastie when I'm not so busy ill e mail you some stuff but trust me shouting at her directly when she's poorly ain't right and will affect Alice most definitely and make her timid and lack confidence. I would also be concerned about not being able to confront him. Parent line plus can advise you in confidence but he does need help or you need to overcome feeling shit and help him out I can be an absolute bitch when woken in the night so I do sympathise with him too.
I'm not being judgey either but kind of feel I know Alice iykwim and feel a bit sad.

ledkr Mon 05-Nov-12 22:56:46

Ponyo mil kept going on about people's weight and how it's important not to put it on in the first place and I'm like stood there in my size 16 skin hmm cheeky cunt lol I looked at her saggy sour face and thought we all pay somewhere eh? Fil still seems to be sculking about for grub sniffing the air like a scavenger.my mate makes whispered vulcher squawks when she comes and I have to stifle my laughter

reastie - Can you insist he see the GP or seek counselling? He can shift the blame for why he reacts that way all he wants, but he's not going to change until he accepts that it's his reaction that's the problem, not what's making him react. I feel so sad for Alice. sad What did the GP say about your iron levels? Can s/he prescribe something different if you're finding the Floradix difficult? I've just started on iron tablets myself, as I've been feeling the overwhelming tiredness that usually means my levels are low.

L had his hair cut for the first time yesterday - I got a bit teary blush and have some of his curls in an envelope to save. He looks like a proper little boy now. sad I will upload a new photo soon. I had a phone interview last week and they've just asked me back for an in-person interview and skills assessment. I enjoy being home with L (mostly) but really feel like I need to be back to work.

blizy Tue 06-Nov-12 07:36:59

Reastie I have no further advice for you, the other ladies seem to have covered it. Does he feel remorse afterwards and does be know it is wrong? How would he feel if the angry one was you? I hope you are doing ok, I understand that you are in a bit of a hard place at the minute. Wish I could help you more. X

Ledkr- your weekend sounded bliss! I grin at your comment about your mils' saggy face!

Ponyo, wow shock at your mil!

American, I seen L'a pic in fb. Very handsome! Good luck with the job interview, I have my fingers crossed for you.

Emski- how is the little kitten? Was she ok with the fireworks?

We didn't go to any displays this year, I didn't want to leave Alfie in case he was frightenedblush. He had a ball upmarket the window watching all of the fireworks , the cat is madhmmgrin.

I have been feeling a bit wobbly the past few days it has been the run up to ovulation, so do you think it's hormones making feel all anxious and stressy? The AD's have been working so it's a bit of a shock to feel rubbish again.
Also my baby brother (he is just 18) is leaving next Monday to join the army, he starts his training and will be away for 3 monthssad. We are very close, I practically raised him and my other brother (16).

Anyhoo, enough of my moaning, I hope you all have a good day!

Emski76 Tue 06-Nov-12 12:53:03

American, how are things in the big US of A with the elections going on? i saw leo.s pic on fb anf thought of how lucky he is to be growing up inthe states.

Reastie, your dh needs to stopand think about what he is doing. Ihave HUGE anger issues but have managed to keep them in check since the chuldren have come along. I second Ledkr's comments and advice. he needs help and he needs it now. I am very fearful of any kind of anger or violence. I wound dh up too much once, and he punched a wall on our bedroom, after I explaied how scared it made me he didn;t do it again.If your dh cares that much for youand Alice he will recognise he has a problem and deal with it.

Blizy, hope your ok. I quite often get anxious and stressed out but no longer wonder why and think its just one of those things. You obviously have a lot going expecially with your baby brother joining the army! Molly, the kitten is fantastic. She is so loving and affectionate and loves playing with Ben.They cahse around the house together and if Benthrows her a toy she fetches it and brings it back!! i think she was ok with the fireworks,she didn;'t seem to notice them tbh!!

reastie Tue 06-Nov-12 17:01:31

thanks to everyone for all their very thoughtful comments. Have been doing some thinking and googling. Just spoke to DH about it. It's so hard as he refuses to talk about it really, just keeps saying he knows he has a problem, he's working on it and not to talk about it. We had a rather fruitless discussion (it's very hard when he just looks cross at me and says nothing and tries to pin the blame back on me and how perfect I am not ). I think I stood my ground but tbh I'm not sure we got anywhere. He just says I can't expect an instant fix it will take time for him to get better and he's trying some techniques and it did help (goodness knows what he would have been like at the week end then as he already shouted at Alice 3 times and slammed alot of doors). I've tried to say to him how long shall we give him trying the book techniques before we try something more, there must be a point when he knows a book will help him enough or not enough to make a difference. He won't commit to any time frame though and I think he just thinks I should leave him trying to work it out on his own. I genuinely have no idea what to do now - do I say give him till christmas to decide if the book techniques have helped enough to continue with with no further help and if they won't then either he moves out or gets help? What if he says they're enough and to leave him to it and this continues, how long do I give him to allow it to be a reasonable time to improve and help himself before I admit he's not willing or able to change and work things out on my own? It's so hard when he refuses to talk about it (he's a bit like that with any issue we have). Sorry for all that blush but it's so hard, and I don't want to talk to anyone in RL about it but just don't know where to go with it.

Blizy hope you're OK. FWIW I got really wobbly when my sister went to university a few years ago! Let alone the army. If it helps I was more wobbly before she left. Once she'd gone I sort of just got on with it.

american saw the piccies of Leos hair - very smart!

ledkr Tue 06-Nov-12 17:36:53

Reastie if he's not changed for now then I think you will have to step up and protect Alice from his wrath. There's not an illness invented that would stop me getting up to my baby if the alternative was her being mistreated and I speak as a sympathiser to his anger I really do. To be fair if it was the other way around and he wasn't getting up and you had to do every thing leading to you losing control we'd also be critical of him. I feel sorry for him in a way I just couldn't do al the night wakes without dh taking turns. What has go said about your anaemia cos that's very low indeed give him a couple of nights kip and see if there's a difference I am a different person when I'm sleeping well maybe he will be too.

reastie Tue 06-Nov-12 18:08:20

Thanks ledkr we spoke a bit more about it - I told him the fact he refused to talk to me about it made me feel like he wasn't bothered about his behaviour or changing it, he said nothing was further from the truth - I think then maybe he really does hate what he does he just can't talk about it, which comes across as he's not bothered about it. I can't even stand up for myself as to why I didn't go in when he does it - when I go in to him when he's up with Alice in the night he gets protective as it's his duty and he doesn't want me coming in on his watch. Next time I'll take Alice out of there straight away. Any advice as to what to say to DH when he's like that though to help me but also to make him realise what he's doing?

ledkr Tue 06-Nov-12 19:47:52

If turn it around and say you think he's tired and that you will see to her whilst he rests. I shout louder when I feel I'm doing more than my fair share btw just so dh knows grin also why not put the onus on him and say he should get you when he feels he's had enough that's quite cognitive for him too. Having a bad sleeper me and dh have learned to be very kind to each other. I do a quick sum in my head when d wakes dependent on who has work next day or if dh is working late we just naturally do what's fair to the other one and if I'm stressed dh takes her off regardless.

Emski76 Tue 06-Nov-12 20:07:18

Reastie, as i said before I am also quite an angry person, and feel that it might be good if you and dh discuss something you can say to him when he's taking it too far. I know if dh said something to me when I used to get angry I would have flown at him whereas if we had a code word or sentence it would calm me and almost make me see sense. I do agree with Ledkr tho that I would be at the end of tether getting up loads at night with the boys do I guess your dh does need a little understanding too which I can tell you are trying to do.

On a lighter note, dh is watching Superman 500000000000(!!!!!) and thinks their genius. Am I the only one who thinks their a pile of poo?!!

Bloody nightmare with the election! DH and I voted this afternoon with a 5 minute wait but I've heard stories of massive 2+ hr queues and I remember waiting 1.5 hrs to vote in 2004. I can't wait until it's over - it's been near constant political adverts. Fingers crossed Obama pulls through, I will be absolutely gutted if Romney wins. sad

The projections show Obama has won. grin Of course, the same thing happened in 2000 and I woke the next morning to see that Bush had actually won. sad And my state has elected two openly gay members of Congress which is a massive step forward.

blizy Wed 07-Nov-12 07:07:31


wigglesrock Wed 07-Nov-12 19:57:34

I had fiddled about with Threads I'm On and lost you all [sob], thought you'd found better friends grin

Yay for Obama, I was almost too afraid to turn on the tv this morning to find out the result!

reastie I'm so sorry you are having such a difficult time lately. I'm not sure of how much I can add, everyone has said so many wise things, but sending lots of love xxxxx. I grew up with an "angry parent" - it was very difficult and I make a conscious effort never to be the same type of parent. I tell the girls off and lose my temper but I never make them feel like crap just because I'm in a shit mood. Nobody has to be the same type of parent their mother/father was.

Re Mr Ws weight loss grin - he has halved portions, has porridge/eggs for breakfast, salad for lunch and then dinner. He would have a sweet tooth, so no biscuits, cakes, wine etc.

blizy I know how you feel re you baby brother, I have very difficult days with Mr Ws job especially lately sad

Right off to jeff juke at the photos

reastie Thu 08-Nov-12 15:00:44

Hello everyone thanks again for your thoughts and help re: DH issues. Ledkr FWIW the reason dh started taking over on alot of night times was as I can only seem to settle DD at nights by bfing her, which is quite physically tiring to do. We'll work on it and hope it will get better, I'll do what I can and he will hopefully work on it too. It's v hard when he can't/refuses to talk about things though, he is a definite head in the sand type of person!

blizy how are you doing re: DB? Any signs of AF or should I just not ask?

Ems I've never seen a superman film. Never seen a James Bond or Star Wars either <shrugs>.

Took Alice to her gym class this morning and she had a great time - haven't taken her to a class in a couple of weeks (although we've had some of her friends over) and think she got a bit over excited with all of the soft play!

Parents evening tonight - boo. Also am sucking up working for free on my afternoon off in a couple of weeks to go on a course angry - best not get me going on that one though!

ledkr Thu 08-Nov-12 20:40:09

I had parents pm too reast never a problem with Ella which I deserve after 3 boys ha ha. Are you still bf? Would that make you low iron esp if dieting too. D been hilarious today I got her some little uggs and she looks so cute.
Has anyone seen needto s thread in relationships poor woman

ILovePonyo Thu 08-Nov-12 21:08:11

Hello all, am watching masterchef and having a wine Ooh get me! A has been a funny charmer today, pulling funny faces and at one point saying "no thank you" when I asked if she wanted something, my face was like this shock

reastie good luck with dh. It is hard when someone refuses to talk about things, have you tried suggesting things to him and the just leaving it and coming back to it later so he can get his head around it?

american aww at L's curls, bet he looks so different smile piccies please!

blizy how are you feeling? I bet it os the hormones making you feel wobbly, its easy to underestimate how much they can affect you. I hate feeling anxious, it can really set me back, so just hope you're ok and having lots of Alfie snuggles grin

ledkr massive grin at mil's saggy sour face, very true, I may be fat but I still get ID'd this week, ha! Love the image of D in uggs, cute smile I have to do framework training for my new job soon, do you use it and is it easy to use?!

I start my new job soon, only 3 days left of work next week, scary!

blizy Thu 08-Nov-12 22:19:23

Hope parents evening went well reastie. How are you today?

Ponyo, grin at Anya. Very good manners! My little mindee always says thank you very much in an elvis type accentgrin.

I'm feeling better now thanks, defo hormone related! My wee sis is also ready to have her baby any day due on the 15th, I am very nervous about that.

Wiggles, well done to mr w! Hope you are all well.

Right I'm off to bed, had a horrid night last night, fingers crossed for some sleep!

reastie Fri 09-Nov-12 18:23:43

Gosh poor needto . I was suppose to see her in half term but then Ben was ill sad

Blizy you made me chuckle with the elvis thank you very much comment grin . Good luck to your sister, it's not long now, and also not long until LV! Hoping you managed to get some sleep last night. Parents evening was surprisingly better than I had worried about - no awkward parents and all the bad stuff I had to say the parents seemed to be expecting/not surprised/supportive about.

Ponyo how very well behaved of Anya to say thank you wink . We've got Alice quite good with please, but she's not so hot with thank you.

ledkr hope your parents eve went well too. Re: bfing, yes, I'm still doing one feed in the evening (and occasionally at night if Alice wakes up and I get stay up duty). I thought about giving up because of the iron thing, but looked into it and apparently one feed a day shouldn't use up a huge amount of stores, it's my copper coil giving me, ahem, flooding during AF which is causing it. Still on the high iron diet it's a great excuse to eat dark chocolate

Went into Monsoon on the way home from work today and bought a lovely dress for work (all my work dresses are either one size too small pre preg ones or 2 sizes too big fat ones). I went shock in the changing room as it actually makes me look like I have a very slight allbeit chubby figure! Didn't realise how awful my 2 sizes too big work dresses looked!!! May have to take it back though as it's just a tad too tight and I'm paranoid I look pregnant in it with my big sticking out a bit too much tummy blush . Have ordered some dresses online also today so maybe one of those will fit a bit better <hopeful>

ledkr Sun 11-Nov-12 07:56:29

Marking place as nothing of any interest to say apart from d woke up at 4 vomited and hasn't been back to sleep since

ILovePonyo Sun 11-Nov-12 15:24:06

Hi all, A has not had a nap yet today, do you think I should try and keep her awake til bedtime now?! Also she has impetigo sad her poor nose and chin is looking v sore and red. Went to out of hours docs today and she's got some medicine to help. I don't know much about impetigo, have been googling, any advice?

Ledkr hope D is ok. What a grim night for you.

Blizy I love the mindee who does an Elvis thank you very much that made me grin

Reastie any reason to buy new clothes sounds good to me!

reastie Sun 11-Nov-12 18:21:08

ponyo you see, you DID need that rash book in the end didn't you wink . Isn't it impetigo that's super infectious? I'm thinking try to keep her away from other children for the contagious period and assuming nursery won't take her with it. First time I had heard of impetigo a student in my tutor group had it and she had to stay off school until she wasn't infectious (hoping I haven't got muddled up with some other rash type thing). That doesn't really give you any help on the practical side though does it?!

Ledkr how is D now? Sounds very miserable

blizy Sun 11-Nov-12 19:07:18

Ponyo, it is very contagious, you will have to check with the nursery about exclusion period. Just makes sure you and Dh use a separate towel and be over zealous with hand washing. Oh and no kissing A on her face.sad. Hope she is ok?

ILovePonyo Sun 11-Nov-12 20:32:50

Thanks both, yep very contagious so will nursery tomo and see what they say. I have a feeling she'll be off tomo and tues at least. Not great timing as its my last week of work and I've got loads to do! Dp taking tomo off work.

Thanks for the advice, she keeps rubbing it then touching things, aagh! I feel a bit rubbish as i read somewhere it can be caused by poor hygiene sad that's not the case here (I hope!)

Grannyapple Sun 11-Nov-12 20:40:39

Hi ladies...sorry, been a while. Been manic with work & N has had a touch of cold/flu for over 2 weeks & only just over it!

reastie I promise I will put pics of windows up soon. Have emailed the pics to my laptop by dh is currently hogging it, trying to draw up a kinda flexible working proposal for working from home 1 day a week, as it looks like I'll be increasing my days from 3 to 4 (we're trying to avoid an additional days nursery fee/week to make it more viable for me to do the extra day/week). A colleague has resigned & looks like they won't be replacing her in the interim..figured I'll end up doing extra work anyway, so may as well get paid for it. Thankfully my boss agrees & has been v receptive to the idea. We're going to do it as a trial for about 6-9 months (depends in when a colleague returns from mat leave). Sorry that's v boring post-apologies!!

blizy how many days now til Vegas? How exciting..

ponyo sorry to hear A has impetigo...nightmare for you..

ledkr sympathies with D vomiting & general grumpiness (N gets v grumpy & sorry fur himself when ill, wee soul!).

Waves to everyone else.....

ledkr Mon 12-Nov-12 07:01:59

Granny that's like my job tbh I do full time job in part time hrs and annoying colleague for fuck all and uses every chance she can to leave early or be off soooooo entitled.

wigglesrock Mon 12-Nov-12 20:56:32

Evening all, ponyo hope A is soon on the mend xxxx

ledkr hows D?

Anna is still suffering from a bad cold and as for her bloody cough [aaggh]

Nothing exciting here grin Was at a how to do maths homework with your P1 type course at Olivias school tonight. Deffo felt more comfortable skulking at the back but we all had to participate [eye roll] grin Who knew dominoes could be so complicated?

Had an Ikea trip and bought some Christmas presents with Tesco double up vouchers today - living the dream fellow Febbers, living the dream grin

Grannyapple Mon 12-Nov-12 22:10:23

Ha ha wiggs I'm actually quite jealous...was just thinking today that I could do with a wee festive trip to ikea smile

ledkr Tue 13-Nov-12 18:10:34

Hey wiggs. D has had a cough for bloody weeks now they keep saying chest is clear and she is now on inhalershmm
Bit off colour but bloody hilarious
Ponyo framework is that the caf process using the five outcomes? Yrs it's good but slightly oddly worded IMO
Had day from hell at work just want to crawl into my bed and give up. Ungrateful entitled bastards my clients. Get a friggin grip will you!

wigglesrock Tue 13-Nov-12 20:10:46

ledkr when A was at the Drs a few weeks ago, the Dr said that if I wanted she would give me some inhalers.

Sweet baby Jesus, Sofia came home with the songs for her Christmas play [already!!] We have already had Hosanna Rock ten times this evening - makes the tin whistle seem tuneful grin

Emski76 Tue 13-Nov-12 20:27:32

Wiggles, Ben sang 4, yes 4 Xmas songs yesterday that he's learning for his Xmas play. I too, had a 'class' at Bens school today, it was a reading class! Very interesting and a bit overwhelming!.
Can I join the group with the coughy/coldly babes. Noah's had an awful cough for about a week, nd is just getting over a stinking cold. He's not been overly grumpy but has a constant snail trail with I tend to find over my work clothes most days!
Ponyo, I hope A is ok, and recovering from her impetigo. Poor baby. I'm sure it's nothing to do with hygiene. A friend of mine used to get it and she was very clean!
Led, sorry about your shit day at work. Must be so hard dealing with your clients sometimes.

tadjennyp Wed 14-Nov-12 18:37:55

Sorry, been absent with some health issues for a little while but have been trying to keep up with everyone's news. Hope A's impetigo is better Ponyo and all the coughs are getting better. I hope the last day of your job goes really well too Ponyo and your new job is just what you wished for; same for Granny with the new flexible stuff.

Had a needle biopsy on my thyroid yesterday as there is a 2.5cm lump there. They're usually benign, but you have to check that they're not cancerous. It didn't hurt really, which was a good job as I still had to pick the dcs up and take them to swimming lessons! Had the coil removed last week too as I was fed up of almost constant bleeding. I'm with you there reastie. So onwards and upwards.

Feeling envy of all the Christmas songs. They are not allowed to even mention the C word here at school and but concerts can include songs with snowmen and reindeer. hmm

Hope everyone is having a good day and the little blighters sleep well tonight!

reastie Thu 15-Nov-12 12:36:35

Tad how long before you get the results? I'm sure chances are it'll be fine but it still must be a bit of a worry at the back of your mind.

Love the christmas songs for school plays - you see how long they have to practice these things for - I'd be expecting some great things from the school nativity if I were you wink

ponyo how is Anya?

Wiggles I do hate it when you have to participate in these things and can't just sit quietly at the back!

Granny hope you get work sorted out, and I may be pming you at some point if you don't mind to ask a few more questions re: your windows. We are slowly getting there with planning our work on the house - next stage is a structural engineer is coming over next week <excited>

Not much to report here. DH is coming with me to the GP tomorrow afternoon re: a MH issue I'm struggling with at the minute. It's pathetic but I'm already nervous about the appointment blush .

I love how I offer Alice options for snacks and she says 'nnooooooooo' with her nose turned up like 'why on earth would you even contemplate offering me that ?' type of way!

wigglesrock Thu 15-Nov-12 12:50:56

tadjennyp hope you're feeling better soon, take care xxxxxx

reastie how you doin'? [in Joey from Friends stylee] grin at Alice

Anna is much more of a blunt foot stamper and "Nooooooo Mammeee" squealed very loudly. She has appeared to has completely lost the ability to speak in an "inside voice". Everything is guldered at you.

Sofia has given us a preview of more songs from the Christmas play - one of which sounds like a re-working of "I don't know how to love him" from Jesus Christ Superstar hmm Very intrigued now, although have a sneaking suspicion her teacher may be over reaching himself with Sofia and the singing grin He's taking her class of 23 on the train to the Library next week, I may offer him gin!

debka Fri 16-Nov-12 13:06:37

Hello you lovely lot, had you all forgotten me? <sob>

How are you all? I've missed you. Been really busy with work, life, bloody children... grin

Actually S has been really poorly, nasty nasty cold but she's been under the weather, not eating, sleeping loads and stuck to me for nearly a week. Finally perked up today at last though.

DH is, I think, feeling left behind by me. I am getting on and living my life and he's just not keeping up. I'm not sure how to deal with this one...

Went to visit our first Big School with Imogen this week, not sure who was more excited, her or me.. DH decided he didn't want/need to come, he could find out anything he needed from the internet hmm. Ah well, I do the legwork, I make the decisions.

ledkr Fri 16-Nov-12 16:55:36

Hi deb that's what happened between me and knobhead I outgrew him. Not much help I guess.
We are off to see Julian clary tonight we are well excited

ILovePonyo Fri 16-Nov-12 17:48:15

Hi all, A is much better thank god, she had such a scabby face, all on her nostrils and chin, her nose got better overnight on Wed and her chin is nearly cleared up. Medicine is obv working!

deb hope you're ok. Has your dh said anything or is it just a feeling you have? I'm a bit surprised he didn't go tot he school with you sad

ledkr did my training, it wasn't the caf training but the systems we use for recording all info about children. It was only half a day so that was good! Enjoy your evening sounds great!

reastie hope you got on ok at GP? A does the same with snacks, even with biscuits and breadsticks shock Fussy madam!

tadj can't believe they're not allowed christmas songs in school!! I'd be really annoyed about that and I'm not religious at all grin

wiggles grin at A and her "nooooo mameeeeeee" I sometimes catch A saying mummy in a Notts accent which is something like "mum-eh" I will have to put a stop to that soon...

I start my new job on monday so A will go full time at nursery, I am feeling a bit worried/like a bad mum, hope its not too much for her?
We went to the last messy play (for us) today, A was very good and charming for most of it (excpet for the odd tantrum over toys) which made me feel worse about the new job hmm

reastie Fri 16-Nov-12 18:22:32


Just a quickie

Ponyo so glad Anya is getting better. Don't feel bad about nursery, I bet she'll love it (she already has fun doesn't she?) and plus you're building a happy life for yourself in your new job and also this is hopefully helping towards you moving house and getting her in to a nice school etc etc.

deb I hope things are OK for you and DH. I'm a bit hmm that he didn't want to see the school.

Ledkr have a fab time tonight - sounds like a lovely laid back evening out

grin at the accents of the feb babies toddlers. Alice talks with a bit common like like DH wink nothing I can't straighten out though

Thanks for well wishes re: GP. She's put me on citalopram. Collect it tomorrow and this time I will take it (unlike the seroxat!) I'm desperate !

ILovePonyo Fri 16-Nov-12 18:34:03

Reastie I think I was on citalopram for a while years ago and it helped me, unlike bloody seroxat that made me even worse sadangry glad you're going to take it!

tadjennyp Fri 16-Nov-12 19:05:06

Citalopram helped me too, reastie. I hope it does the trick for you.

Sorry about dh debka. I'd be really cross if dh decided he wasn't going to come and check things like that out, without a really good reason.

Good luck with the new job Ponyo. You will do so well!

The large lump on my thyroid is benign! Hurray.

Have a lovely weekend everyone.

wigglesrock Fri 16-Nov-12 19:38:36

tadjennyp xxxxxxxx, great news. I know you weren't worried grin but its still a bit of a relief.

ponyo yay for A feeling better and don't worry about the nursery and full time, honestly it'll be fine.

ledkr meant to say saw your thread in Children Health re D - hope she turns a corner soon. Anna has finally started to shake off the cough and general lethargy that has been dogging her for ages. She appears to be much better but it took about 4 weeks tbh. Have a fab time tonight xx

debka just sending hugs, big ones. How exciting for you Imogen, big school rocks grin

reastie really glad you got to GP and another vote for citalopram here xx

blizy are you heading away this weekend? envy

Mr W off this weekend, so going to keep our fingers crossed it warms up a bit and we head to the park/seaside in the morning [brrrrrr brrrrrr] and my aunt is taking S and O to Disney on Ice on Sunday morning (rather her than me grin). They went last year and loved it and this year the old eejit has went and booked them seats actually on the ice (think she may have to remortgage the house and thats before she gets to the concessions shock)

Have put some photos of A up - well its been at least a week blush

blizy Fri 16-Nov-12 21:26:22

Hi, yes wiggles we fly out tomorrow morning. I am sipping cocktails in our hotel room just nowgrin.

Sorry to hear about the poorly babies, hope they are better soon.

Reastie, I feel loads better now I am on my ad's. hope you are ok?
Right better go Dh is giving me a funny lookgrin.

wigglesrock Fri 16-Nov-12 21:38:02

blizy have a fantastic time xxxxxx

Mr W has brought me home Ryan Gosling in a dvd shaped box grin so I'm off to enjoy.

tadjennyp Fri 16-Nov-12 22:21:30

Thanks wiggles - have a lovely weekend everyone, especially blizy on her Vegas break! What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas, remember that. X

ILovePonyo Sun 18-Nov-12 20:47:09

Blizy hope you are having a fab time, I doubt it will be anything but fab though tbh! grin

Hope everyone has had a nice weekend. I am nervous about starting new job tomo. Help!! grin I think it's induction and I don't have to be there til 10am so it should be fine <fingers crossed>
We have spent most of the weekend driving around like numpties trying to find a new car to buy, who would have thought it would be so hard angry Everything is either too expensive or too small/old/high mileage. Either that or I am too picky wink
Think we will just go back to available car which is pretty much a massive car supermarket and find one there next weekend. Boooring. The only good thing there is they have a mini soft play which A loved when we went yesterday, she's been good this weekend and very funny, lots of chasing the cats around wagging her finger shouting "no kitty. NOT FUNNY!" and singing baa baa. SHEEP!

ledkr Sun 18-Nov-12 21:11:21

Good luck ponyo with job.
D has been a moany bint today I was fed up with her and got little done. Dh working again so really lonely. In the past I used to enjoy weekend when he worked. Out on the piss Saturday then hangover Sunday spent either chillin with Ella or taking her to cinema shopping or lunch. It was the races today too but couldn't get anyone to look after moany pants [sad{ sorry for moaning its pmt week.
Love to all ESP blizy x

ILovePonyo Sun 18-Nov-12 21:21:50

It makes a difference tho ledkr, when A is moany and clingy it completely does my head in and can really get me down, esp if I was doing it on my own sad hope you're ok and thanks for the good luck x

ledkr Sun 18-Nov-12 21:28:21

Thanks x I feel so bloody ungrateful especially when I think of Zoe, I wish I could enjoy this time but its so hard.
Going to book a sitter for few hrs on dh weekends on. Even just for few hrs so I'm not so isolated. Don't mind on the summer when I can go off in my can but these long winter weekends are horrible

ILovePonyo Sun 18-Nov-12 21:34:51

I feel ungrateful sometimes too but let's be honest, constant whining is very trying!
When my dp has been away at weekends I pretty much always go to my mums, it's hard soon it on your own.

ILovePonyo Sun 18-Nov-12 21:36:02

*doing it on your own I meant, stupid phone.
I think getting a sitter is one of the best things you can do, good plan smile

Grannyapple Sun 18-Nov-12 22:15:35

Evening ladies!

ledkr/ponyo totally agree...makes everything harder when the bubbas are v whingy. Thankfully N has been OK this w/e & v funny...MIL is down in 2 weeks..I'm betting he'll be a right wee grump then..when I'll also be a bit of a grump as I'll have a house guest grin

blizy hope you're having a fab time in Vegas...certainly looks like it from the fb pics!

reastie - hope you're doc appt went well? I've finally got my ass into gear & put the pics of the windows up..just pm me if you have any questions smile

wiggs love the new pics - can't belive how long Anna's hair is...she looks v cute & gorgeous!

Well...I have a bit of news ladies...found out I'm 4 weeks pg last w/e shock. Well we had been trying, but thought it wouldn't happen this year...but we're really pleased, if finding it a bit surreal at the mo (never really feels real at this stage, eh?). Just feeling tired at the mo, but intrigued as to how this pregnancy will feel given that I'l be chasing around after a toddler this time, as opposed to chilling/ long baths when I get in from work (sigh...). Have only told sis & a close friend (oh & few people on mumsnet wink).. Have an early scan booked for mid December but will tell MIL when she's down & might tell rest of family at Christmas... Tis typical though that I think about increasing my days & then get pg...meeting boss a week on Monday to discuss additional days but don't think I'll mention pg until things are a bit clearer re: the extra days....

Feels like everything is ages away re: appts/ scans but no doubt Christmas will be here soon enough & I'll regret that statement grin.

Off to my kip ladies...night night..

Grannyapple Sun 18-Nov-12 22:38:57

Sorry ponyo...forgot to say good luck fur tomorrow (it'll prob all go better than you think!) & good luck with the car hunting!

ILovePonyo Sun 18-Nov-12 22:51:21

Granny shock grin massive congrats!! Wow, what a surprise, am so pleased for you (you're a brave woman wink)

reastie Mon 19-Nov-12 07:20:51

Just popped on to say GOOD LUCK ponyo

But also a hhhhuuuuggggggeeeeee congrats to Granny . Just make sure you don't leave us for the new ante natal thread grin . Thanks for the windows piccies. That does actually help alot to see the trim etc. I still have a few questions (mainly as I'm so nervous about spending so much money on something where I only know the company from someone I've never met IYKWIM) and will pm you at some point.

ledkr Mon 19-Nov-12 08:22:35

Wow congrats granny. Our first feb second that we know of. I'm always dumbfounded when I hear someone's pg when already have a toddler till I remember that I had 3 under 6 lol. No wonder I'm a wreck.
Well baby d slept for 14 hrs last night and me for nearly as much grin

Emski76 Mon 19-Nov-12 13:08:38

Granny, yyaaaaaahhhhhhhhh amazing and exciting news!! led, your right, Granny is our first second baby person!!!!! I'm so flipping fecking pleased for you!!

Led, 14 hour sleep last night sounds fantastic!

Reastie, have you started your AD's yet? I too am on citalopram. They are fab. Be prepared to feel worse for a few weeks while they kick in though. They really take the edge off my anxiety and depression.

Ponyo, hope your first day at your new job is fab.

We put our Xmas tree up yesterday after helping by bff buy and put up his new tree. Dh is such a misery though. At my friends we put on Xmas music and ate choccies while doing it, Ben helped too. At home, dh either was out of the room or sat on the sofa watching. I just wanted him to get excited like me!!

reastie Mon 19-Nov-12 14:55:24

Thanks ems I went to pick it up at the week end but as the GP wasn't clear about dosage the chemist wouldn't give them to me angry , so picking them up later this week. I can't believe you've got your christmas tree up already! I thought I would be early doing mine the first week end in december! Got my elf on the shelf all set too grin .

Grannyapple Mon 19-Nov-12 18:50:58

Ah thank you lovely ladies...don't worry, no danger of me leaving this thread grin.

I'll be putting out tree up too 1st w/e in December when MIL is down...inky chance we'll get..hopefully go buy it when N is getting fed by MIL & then we'll put it up when N is sleeping hopefully...canny wait to see his wee face. He was loving the decs up at the local shopping centre!

But...I have now become the type of person I swore I'd never be with a tree up on 1st dec grin

ILovePonyo Mon 19-Nov-12 19:50:30

Hi all, just popping on to say my first day was pretty fab smile Everyone was lovely and I'm looking forward to getting stuck into my work as some of today was spent reading boring policies and procedures... Am looking forward to tomorrow though!

grin granny I always said I'd never bother with a tree etc but I'm going to have to this year arent I, never have done before!

emski boo to your dh wink any excuse to eat chocs is good for me

reastie "elf on a shelf" shock grin

We put A to bed at 6.30 bcos she was shattered bless her.

wigglesrock Mon 19-Nov-12 20:18:08

grannyapple lovely, lovely news. Congratulations grin

ponyo glad your first day went well and everyone was nice to you - well dare they be anything but grin

emski we saw our first Christmas tree in the street today. The girls got really excited - it was lovely and twinkly.

We out our tree up around 7/8 December. The girls are off school for a day around then, so we put it up together then I fix it. But Mr W and I went into town today to have a nosy in the Disney Store and get a few ideas etc. We got pils to mind Anna but had Emma with us, although she is a dote and is happy just to have a look about, not like her cousin at all grin Anna would have demolished the Christmas displays in about 2 mins shock The Christmas market is on, so we ate our way round it blush Was a lovely morning but Mr W is now on nights all week [boo, hiss] - getting into the panto spirit already!!!

Granny - massive congrats!

reastie - meant to say have you tried Spatone? Maybe it'll suit you better than Floradix if you're finding it rough. Amazon usually has the best price.

deb - sorry about your DH. It's his loss really if he doesn't want to engage with the girls, my dad was the type to never be at plays/recitals and it makes me a bit sad.

Waiting until December to put the Christmas tree up? shock I'm going to convince DH that we should put ours up Friday - the day after Thanksgiving. All our ornaments are in the boxes we shipped as sea freight which are finally being delivered on Sunday.

I knackered my back a week and a half ago, couldn't lift L without loads of pain and had to bribe him with chocolate to cooperate for nappy changes. blush Now my back is mostly better but my hips are dodgy, can barely move when I get out of bed in the mornings. sad I've started doing the stretches for sciatica and can hardly get into the position for my right hip. My body has suddenly started falling apart and I'm only 31!

tadjennyp Tue 20-Nov-12 04:35:37

Congratulations granny! Wonderful news. smile

Glad your first day went really well Ponyo.

Yay to Christmas trees, Christmas markets and elves on the shelf. Our elf will be coming back the day after Thanksgiving apparently! wink

tadjennyp Tue 20-Nov-12 04:39:19

Sorry, expat, I hope your back feels better really soon.

blizy Wed 21-Nov-12 06:52:31

Granny, huge congrats in so happy for you and Dh! grin

Vegas is AMAZING, so much to do so little time! It's my birthday today and Dh treated me to an iPad grin, I knew he had his useswink. We were at an animal sanctuary today and the white tigers made me cry, they were such an amazing sight. We are just chilling listening to a band in the hotel tonight.

I hope you are all well, promise to catch up properly when I get home. Live to you all. C

ledkr Wed 21-Nov-12 09:10:45

Happy birthday blizy. Extra big birthday wishes for you x

wigglesrock Wed 21-Nov-12 14:34:33

Happy Birthday blizy

Have you won me any money yet? grin

ledkr Wed 21-Nov-12 19:40:17

Today dilly got her potty and did a wee shock
She then put on her own leggings socks and boots and stood by the door topless saying "car"

ILovePonyo Wed 21-Nov-12 20:46:08

Blizy sounds amazing, white tigers are beautiful. iPad, well done mr blizy! grin

Ledkr shock and grin at D, clever baby! Are you going to potty train now then?! confused

A has gastroenteritis sad she was sick again this morning, can't remember if I posted this but she was sick yesterday at nursery so had to call my mums to come here from brum to look after her, then she came again this morning as A was sick, not a great start to my first week at work! Feel bad for my poorly baby and the fact I'm not about for her. Aaagh!!

ledkr Wed 21-Nov-12 21:37:24

Oh no ponyo what a mare with new job. Hope it's short lived thank god for mums eh?
Not potty training no but will do no nappy and present potty when here. She is getting quite Wiley tbh. Wouldn't give her bottle back today at bed time hung into it and said more!
M not speaking to dh. He led in fecking bed this morning whilst I did breakfast packed lunches late homework held dilly got myself ready for work did school run! He must have heard the noise fgs,
I shouted up in the end " can I have a fucking hand!" In the manner of a fish wife then left slamming the door.
He has been texting all day I told him not to speak to me for a month and have put Ella in with me lol.
Can you tell I'm menstrual

ILovePonyo Wed 21-Nov-12 21:48:17

Cheers ledkr yeah my mum is a bit of a star driving up an hour everyday, well it was an hour and a half today bless her, she is the closest family we have.
Sorry but I did grin at your dh texting you all day, he clearly knows he should have got his arse in gear, what is wrong with him?! Why does he have to wait until its too late then apologise rather than just get up and DO something?! Not just having a go at your dh btw, I can relate, it always feels like I have to tell dp stuff needs doing rather than him doing it.
Ahem mini rant blush

dp has stopped smoking today, am proud of him but he's a bit grumpy smile We will save over £200 a month tho so hope he keeps it up! He said he knew he had to stop when he had no money left to buy fags until payday so had to use joint account hmm

wigglesrock Thu 22-Nov-12 11:00:58

ponyo hope A is feeling better xx

Hope work is going well. Funniest thing happened at a tots group I was at - there was a little girl (18 months) and I kept thinking I knew her. I finally realised she really looked like A (her hair wasn't as nice but grin) and then I looked at her Mum (the child came in with her granny) and she was the double of you shock. It was really bizarre. You and A both have doppelgangers.

ledkr Anna shouts milk milk after she finishes her bedtime bottle. Actually she yells mulk and hot. Usually we don't warm her bottle but she's getting even more fussy in her toddlerhood.

I don't have Emma today so Anna and I are having a lazy day lying on the sofa, watching CBeebies and eating Skips blush I'm sure I could be going for a bracing walk somewhere but A won't get in the pram, hold your hand or use reins so I couldn't be arsed with a row grin

americanexpat and tad Have a lovely Thanksgiving weekend [turkey smiley grin]

ILovePonyo Thu 22-Nov-12 15:37:48

Eep wiggles that is odd! You mean the mum looked like me?! And there was a mini A? shock I have a double here in nottm too apparently, I think I just have a common face grin

A is still at home with my mum as she did a massive runny poo at 3.30am, all over her baby grow and grobag sad then she was in bed with us and kicked me a lot, another unsettled night then! She is siting bit the settee watching a lot of "pig" (peppa) my poor mum must be so bored grin

Wiggles A had ready salted crisps for her breakfast today, she didn't want crispies bcos we wouldn't put any milk on (in case it upset her tum) so salty crisps in front of the tv instead!! blush

Don't forget blizy with her Vegas-style Thanksgiving. grin

Ponyo - poor A, hope she's on the mend soon. L is a huge fan of Sesame Street and Elmo now, brings me the remotes and says, "Melmo?" blush

wiggles - L used to say "mulk" too but in the last few days he's started saying it properly. He was using his ride-on car as a step in the kitchen to reach the worktops hmm so I banned him from the kitchen and stood in the door doorman-style. grin He carried his car up to me and said, "Excuse me, mommy" (not mummy sad), I was so caught off guard that I moved and let him through. grin

ledkr Thu 22-Nov-12 17:53:12

I have met people on hiday who look like people I know so I find myself acting like I would aroind them iykwim. Not funny when loud and raucous and the person is quit straight

reastie Thu 22-Nov-12 18:37:47

American grin to the caught off guard and moving out the way

It was really odd as once years ago I saw my doppleganger in Tescos! She looked just like me, even walked in the same way shock . I kept watching her feeling a bit bizarre blush . Never seen her since!

Ponyo poor ANya (and typical on your first week at work). Hope she gets better soon. Just as well Mum to the rescue!

DH taught Alice 'oi' . I was bought up in a naice household where it was rude to say oi so I'm frowning upon its usage by Alice. I swear she can tell as she keeps running around the house shouting oi oi oi oi oi, and yesterday when I took her for a walk in her buggy she kept shouting it at anyone we passed on the street blush . Her latest obsession is putting nappies on all of her toys and then changing their nappies and giving their bottoms a good wipe with babywipes hmm . It's quite cute as she gets out her changing mat from her changing bag to do it like they'd know the difference

tadjennyp Thu 22-Nov-12 18:50:42

It doesn't take long for them to change accents, does it american? [rueful smile] Hope you are having a wonderful Thanksgiving and blizy too! You're always so good at remembering everybody wiggles! thanks Are you doing Black Friday american?

shock at Ponyo's doppelganger! Hope Anya is feeling better now.

Hello to everyone else - hope you are having a great Thursday! feels slightly weird as it is a holiday here but nowhere else .

blizy Thu 22-Nov-12 19:29:03

Happy thanksgiving to my American friends! Hope you have a lovely day and weekend. grin

ledkr Thu 22-Nov-12 19:46:04

Doppelgänger thread in chat

tad - Black Friday? Not on your life. grin I hate crowds and would rather pay full price than join that scrum. There were some early sales yesterday so I did a bit of shopping for myself. grin Otherwise we're having an Amazon Christmas this year.

After two rounds of screening, I have an actual in-person job interview on the 3rd. I've heard mixed reviews on the company (sometimes expect long hours) but it's the dominant employer in my field here and they pay well.

40Weeks Thu 22-Nov-12 21:28:36

Hello ladies

It's beene tha since I have posted, and haven't even attempted to catch up properly. I have thought about you all often though and hope you're babies and you are well. What's been happening?? Any more babies on the way?!?

I was at my slimming world group today and one of the ladies there was handing round photos of how she looked before she lost the weight. Imagine my surprise when one of the photos was a christening photo which I recognised!! Yes reastie tonight I met your MIL!!! How funny is that? So I had to come on here and say hi and to wish you all well and hope everything is ok. We are all fine, MIkey is getting so big and bossy but is just such a lovely cuddly little boy.

So have I missed anything major? Does Janedoe still post?

40Weeks Thu 22-Nov-12 21:30:11

Been a while?!? Not what I typed (sausage hands)

reastie Fri 23-Nov-12 06:48:43

OMG OMG OMG 40 shock grin . I knew she was at SW as the lady in my post office said she had met her there (it's a small world) !! Please don't tell her I'm on here she might hunt down all my terrible posts about her <nervous>

reastie Fri 23-Nov-12 07:15:23

Ok, have now recovered from that one! Yes janedoe is still here, but she'd called blizy now and is currently living it up Las Vegas styley on honeymoon wink . Oh, and just to make me feel better about the picture of me you saw (in which I'm sure I looked awful) , I've lost getting towards 4 stone since that was taken grin . So, how are you and MIL getting on at SW?!

40Weeks Fri 23-Nov-12 09:25:16

Wow 4 stone!! Brilliant well done. I have lost 2 stone and am at target but still go to SW to keep weight off. I am so sorry but I did say to your mother in law that I recognised you although we hadn't actually met (she must have thought I was a weirdo stalker) but I don't think I mentioned Mumsnet - if she mentions it to you say it was Netmums!! I just said our bubbas were the same age and we chatted online. What a small world.

Congrats to blitzy hope you're having an amazing time in Vegas!

Hope everyone else is well :-)

ledkr Fri 23-Nov-12 20:58:15

Blimey how weird about sw/mil you won't meet mine there she only eats when at my house and is a skinny old fart.
Having a grand old time planning g a day at the races for New Year's Day so many of us have given up on babysitters so lots of abandoned dh,s n y day lol

MizK Sat 24-Nov-12 15:56:31

Hi all. just come to have a catch up, am shamefully in bed with a dreadful hangover! Went Christmas shopping this morning hoping to shake it off and threw up in a car park....klassy bird hey? So am relaxing, listening to Jessie Ware to soothe my head and catching up with you lovely lot.
ledkr that sounds so fun, do you all glam up for the races on NY day, can imagine its pretty cold!
40 how funny to meet reastie's MIL, its a bit awkward explaining to people you have friends you've never met isn't it!
ponyo so sorry poor A has been ill, lucky you have a supermum who comes to help smile glad you seem to be liking your new job smile
blizy if you read this when you're back from Vegas, I just want to officially express my deep envy of your holiday! Jel is not the word!
big hellos to everybody else, my wine addled brain is incapable of remembering what I've just read, forgive me!
Are all the babies completely edible at the min or is it just mine? Cassia is so naughty and cheeky now i just want to squeeze her. I kind of love what a diva she is! She has always walked around dangerously in my heels, but she's gone one step further and now emerges from various rooms draped in stolen teatowels, pants, scarves etc saying Wooooow! and Ooooooh! in delight at her own stylishness. And fully expects us all to swoon over her too, she's too funny.

wigglesrock Sat 24-Nov-12 19:34:40

40Weeks Hello, lovely to see you, don't stay away so long next time grin

MizK Anna does a nice line in trying on everyones shoes and waving her foot around in a new shoes style grin

I was out last night too grin, a group of us (Mums from Sofias class) went out for dinner and then lots and lots and lots of dancing blush I drove so I was the designated driver, it was really good fun. I'm knackered, arrived home at 1am and A was up for 6am, am watching the clock, until I can arrive at a more respectable bedtime.

ILovePonyo Sun 25-Nov-12 08:35:48

Hello all, A has been wide awake at 5am the last 2 mornings hmm she's now yawning hmmhmm I am not impressed!

Hello 40 smile good to hear from you and nice to hear things are going well.

Wiggles and Mizk I am impressed at you both going out late, I'm ready for bed at 10 at the mo, I have Xmas do's coming up and I really can't be bothered blush I'm very exciting aren't I.

Mizk love cass the diva, I can imagine her trotting about draped in all sorts! How's she getting on at nursery?

I'm on phone so have forgotten what people have said, hope everyone is ok weather wise, it's very windy here a bit of our fence has blown off confused

ILovePonyo Sun 25-Nov-12 08:36:37

Oh reastie I did grin a bit at your mil panic, I'd be terrified if anyone met mine!

reastie Sun 25-Nov-12 08:54:59

40 you're going to have to tell me (or pm me) your RL first name please so I don't look like a mug when MIL tells me she met you and I call you 40weeks wink <taps nose in agreement to the netmums idea>

Mizk I take it it was a good night out then?!

All this night out talk and I'm living dangerously if I'm not yet in my pjs until after 8:30pm blush

V windy here too - I've been up since v early as the wind kept blustering on the bedroom windows <sigh>

Ponyo how did the first week at work go? Was it all boring policies or did you get to do anything interesting?

Just writing my christmas cards [organised] . We are trying to design a huge built in unit to hide all our junk very important things for our new kitchen diner we're hoping to get done next spring so looking online for lots of inspiration. I'm not very good at this type of thing!

ILovePonyo Sun 25-Nov-12 09:10:57

Wow reastie you are organised doing your Christmas cards, I'm impressed!

First week went well thanks, yes there were boring policies but I also got to go on some visits and start ringing round the referrals that were waiting for me, I have a feeling I'm going to be very busy very soon as there were a lot of referrals! The nice is that everyone is lovely and doesn't mind me asking questions.

Looking for a unit sounds interesting to me blush does it mean you can go to ikea or is that not what you're after? grin I love an excuse for an ikea trip

reastie Sun 25-Nov-12 10:38:41

No we're having it custom made especially to take over up the whole of a wall, floor to ceiling. We're putting a Victorian range in the middle of it as a feature (we're moving it from the wall we;re taking out) and have just found in my Dads garage a big antique wooden fireplace surround we're thinking of incorporating around the Victorian range to give it some extra character. It's all a but daunting though as I'm not a designer and have no idea if this will end out looking good or terrible! A trip around Ikea would be much easier I tell you!

blizy Mon 26-Nov-12 13:21:46

40 weeks, welcome back! Glad to hear you and M are well, hope the rest of the clan are good too.

Ponyo, I'm glad your first week at work went well. Poor Anya with being poorly, is she ok now?

Reastie, yikes to 40 meeting your mil! How is she btw? Have you managed to arrange alternative care for Alice?

Debka, hope you and the girls are well, Howard things with dh now?

Missk and wiggles, check you with the big nights out! Hope you both had a ball.

Granny, how are you feeling?

Dh and I had the most amazing time ever in Vegas! The place is awesome and very weird! grin. We went to see Guns n Roses, it was fab. We were about4 rows from the front! Wee also seen a show called "peepshow" it was a showgirl show where the got their boobies out [perv] blush. I thought we had to do It since we were in Vegas! I have lots of brownie points from dh!
We got home yesterday afternoon and I'm suffering terribly from the dreaded jet lag, we are just chilling as I'm not back to work until Wednesday. Dh has another date with a cup in the morning, should get the results in about 2 weeks.

Anyhow, I'm off to watch some mindless tv. I shall catch up later, hope you are all good. grin

reastie Mon 26-Nov-12 14:06:28

Blizy your holiday sounds fab. I love the piccies on fb - you look v happy and relaxed. So glad you had such a good time. We have been gradually reintegrating ALice having MIL look after her ( blush ) by having her collected from DMs not with me around (she seems to get more upset when I leave her with MIL than with other people) and for short times building up. That sounds really PFB I know but it seems to be working.

Well, have been signed off work this week with physical exhaustion which is dr speak for anxiety apparently . Have been struggling alot lately and won't go into details, but hoping the medication will kick in in the next week and I will start feeling more able to cope.

Yes Deb I've been wondering how you are too

Also Ledkr how are you getting on with DH at the min? Hope he's been pulling his weight and not having to many sleep ins!

blizy Mon 26-Nov-12 14:16:25

Reastie, I hope you are ok, my hand is here for you to hold if you need it. X

ledkr Mon 26-Nov-12 14:20:45

Well reastie he's been better but re annoyed me this am by sitting dozily on the couch in his robe like bloody Hugh Hefner with a half naked baby running about no heating on hadn't called Ella or started breakfast etc so I had to rush after daring to spend a few minutes getting ready for work. I told him not to bother taking time off in future and I will employ a nanny and he can pay her grin

Grannyapple Mon 26-Nov-12 20:29:29

Hi ladies..

blizy sounds like you has a fab time in Vegas! I'm fine, thx for asking tho I think the nausea is beginning to hit now. I'm off to docs tomorrow to get things moving. Have done something like 7 tests in past 2 wks...think it's defo about time I visited the docs me thinks!

reastie tis funny 40 bumping into your MIL. Has she mentioned it to you yet?

wiggs I was out with the nct lot on sat night...we were all home for 10.30pm shock living the dream or what grin

ledkr I'd have well lost my rag before now with your dh.. But does make me grateful for my dh (he get N up & ready when I'm working]...

Had chat with my boss today about doing extra day/week..all good & start in January.. With a review of it in July...I'm hoping it'll be fine when I tell him my news as in theory it shouldn't change anything (due date us 24th July).

Hope everyone is well...have MIL down at the end if this week for a few days...hoping N will be on his best behaviour as we'll be in his room for the sleeping arrangements hmm

ledkr Mon 26-Nov-12 20:38:19

Aw granny he's a gem really just not so quick as me! Had to take Ella to go straight from work so literally saw d for seconds I'm craving a cuddle now.
Dh is great with dds goes to toddlers does buns for ballet etc. he's even offered ds2 a kidney. He's just infuriatingly slow at times.
I'd hate anyone to think he was horrible sad
I've been asked to do another day but I seriously can't be arsed.
ponyo how's job? Are you seeing them at home or in refuges

blizy Mon 26-Nov-12 21:42:24

Uh oh granny, I hope the sickness is not too bad when it hits.

Ledkr, you dh sounds like a star, mine is he same, needs a rocket up his arse sometimes!

My ds is finally in labour, I am very nervous for her. No sleep for me tonight.....

wigglesrock Mon 26-Nov-12 21:55:03

blizy yay you're back grin xxx Hope all goes well for your sis.

grannyapple grin Apparently the night out was not to everyones taste shock The dancing with abandon was a bit too much - there may be bitching in the playground!

Reastie take care and as much time off as you need xxx

Am not best pleased with Mr W at the minute - he is working all over Christmas on night shifts which I'm not that annoyed over (he's had Christmas off for the past few years) but they've now been told there's no leave being granted next year from mid June until end of August. Cue lots of muttering under my breath - he's also been on overtime for the past week - can't think why since I'm being such a joy at home grin

blizy Tue 27-Nov-12 00:22:17

Yay, my sis has had her baby! 4 hour labour with a little boy 9lb 10 oz no name yet. Such a relief they are both well. grin

ledkr Tue 27-Nov-12 07:35:19

Big congrats blizy must be hard for you though my sweet. Brave girl xx
wiggs how annoying. I sometimes wonder how we can deal with dh job/shifts for? They keep banning leave here too. Badger cull Olympics any fecking excuse at all. Also keep changing shift times which is hell for childcare. I think all that is fine if they got paid more but not for the wages they get and don't even talk to me about pensions! Between us we should have been retiring early but will now be really late hmm
I think he police show no respect for their families and partners jobs.

reastie Tue 27-Nov-12 07:36:28

Blizy yay yay yay for your DS. 9lb 10 - that sounds painful! But at least the labour wasn't too long. You're so sweet re: your comment for me x

wiggles how annoying re: MrWs, his job sounds v hard in so many ways

Ledkr grin to your DH being a bit slower than you - I think this might be the case in many men!

Grannyapple Tue 27-Nov-12 07:47:57

Aw ledkr he does sound fab. Ha ha to them being slower than us...I now leave dh to it with N as I apparently 'upset his sequence of events' when he's getting N ready grin

wiggs ha ha to 'dancing with abandonment". There's been a bit of bitching with our lot about joint b'day parties etc...I bowed out cos we're heading home to Glasgow for then..good excuse for me to avoid all the political correctness of keeping everyone happy...)

Yay huge congrats blizy & huge well done to your sis...good weight (ouch!)..impressed with the 4hr labour!

Ah reastie take it easy x

Grannyapple Tue 27-Nov-12 07:51:53

Ps N is still asleep shock shock shock

We have swimming at 9.30 so need to get him up soon....but he's snoring away...

wigglesrock Tue 27-Nov-12 08:41:05

blizy lovely, lovely news, let us know the name, I have a fascination with boys names as I never got to use mine xxxxxxxxxxx

ledkr I can't even discuss pensions - Mr W has to pay so much into it and he can't not - its like £300 a month which we really don't have. Leave here is limited in July anyway because of the 12th, and bloody G8 coming and the World feckin' Police Olympics (I kid thee not) is here as well. Apparently they will give first preference for the 2 weeks allowed in August to those with school age children but its bloody dear then (we usually sneak away at the end of June).

I am already having a little bit of a snigger at the fact that he will have to ask them for the day off for Sofias First Communion - that will set the cat amongst the pigeons - it'll be klaxon time at HQ grin

grannyapple envy I thought I was having a good morning Anna only being up from 6.30am [grrr]

reastie Tue 27-Nov-12 08:49:49

Come on then wiggles - you'll have to tell me now - what was your boys name choices? We would have called Alice 'Rowan' if she were a boy grin . Btw police olympics??!! That sounds so ridiculous it has to be a joke!

wigglesrock Tue 27-Nov-12 08:55:19

Reastie I think its the World Police Firearms games or something but its much more fun to distainfully sneer at the Police Olympics and make some disparaging doughnut eating competition jibes grin

Anna would have been Noah or Leo or Dominic or Joseph or Sam

40Weeks Tue 27-Nov-12 14:14:15

Yikes reastie I saw her again in Mothercare!! Ha ha, did she say anything to you?

Congrats blizy on your sisters bubba, how is she feeling?

I am starving today, literally nothing with full me up. On te flip side Miney is throwing everything on the floor except fruit. Gahhhhhhh, tell me the others do this too hmm

ILovePonyo Tue 27-Nov-12 16:45:06


Auntie blizy massive congrats smile how lovely for your sis, tho I did wince at 9lb10 shock did she know she was having a boy? Your holiday pics are fab, you look very relaxed and well. Hope the jet lag is better today!

wiggles I can't believe that about the leave, why on earth can't they take in the school holidays shock

ledkr job is good thanks, I am doing 2 roles really, 2 days in social care as a link worker seeing women who have been referred by the police if theres been an incident of dv, I do short term work and refer them to services if they want it, and 2 and a half days working with children one to one in schools doing 6 weeks of support. Its good b'cos its all quite short term work, unlike before when I've had the same service users for over a year!
Working in the social care office is funny, I'm sure you won't mind me saying this but some social workers are just a bit odd grin no social skills whatsoever. I mentioned this to a friend (also a sw) and she agreed grin

reastie sorry meant to say the other day, I am loving the sound of that unit you are building. Bet it will look ace. grin and shock at 40 seeing your
mil again, hope you are feeling ok about her having A again eventually.

40 I think A would throw fruit on the floor and demand a biscuit! A few times she's chucked a whole bowl of cereal on the floor (with milk) and I have to take a deep breath, then she says "funny hahahaha" and I have to try not to laugh blush

I am feeling guilty about working (nearly) full time, A keeps asking for 'painting' and saying her 2 friends names we saw at messy play every Friday morning, I feel a bit shitty that she can't go sad
Being a softy I bought her an easel (sp?) from ikea and paints, but its not the same is it? We'll still see her little friends on weekends but like I say, I just feel a bit of a let down.
(one of her friends who is nearly 2 has chicken pox! eek!)

ledkr Tue 27-Nov-12 19:46:10

Sounds good ponyo and yes some are very odd I agree. Can't understand why they became sw as some seem to have no idea about life! Short term would be good yes. Are the women away from the dc at the point you see them? What do you do apart from signposting to services? I need a change tbh I'm sick of stuck up adopters I miss my roughys ha ha
I'm having some dilly catch up time we had a bath together and now snuggled by the fire in pjs it's nice. Only fly in the ointment is her constant forced out farts! Dh informed me she had beans on toast for lunch which explains it.

ILovePonyo Tue 27-Nov-12 20:18:58

Glad I've not offended you ledkr! Yes work with children is away from mums, but mum is aware of it and we encourage them to do activities with dc at home. Its usually when mum is away from dv or the perp is in prison. Apart from sign posting for mums its just a chance for them to offload and refer their dc to the one2one service if that makes sense. I could imagine you working for WA, there are a few ex sw's and they are all lovely!

A just took ages to go to sleep grr, her sleep has been awful since she was poorly. grin at D trumping grin

ledkr Tue 27-Nov-12 20:59:29

I'd love to ponyo buy not too much call for it in chelt I don't think. Tends to be big cities for wa doesn't it? Or am I wrong.
I want to try and get onto the new multi agency team supporting substance misuse clients to try and keep their kids. It's been piloted in London and looks really interesting.
D was hard to settle tonight too I had to bring her down once then she fe asleep on me stretched out like a starfish.

blizy Tue 27-Nov-12 21:08:47

I am grin at star fishing farting Dilly! Hope she and Anya sleep through.

I am just back from visiting my sis and nephew, he is adorable. His name is Max William Joseph surname. I could have snuggled him all night, he had a massive sneeze and splattered mucousy snot on my face! I just can't wait until I have another.

ILovePonyo Tue 27-Nov-12 21:35:46

Hm I'm not sure led I work in the county and whilst we know dv can affect anyone it tends to be the more deprived areas that we get the most referrals from. That new role sounds really interesting, its funny b'cos most student sw's I've met want to work in adoption and fostering but I bet you want a challenge!

Naughty Dilly and A, hope they both sleep well hmm

blizy aww what a lovely name smile Massive grin at snotty sneeze on you, hope you are feeling ok and I'm sure you will be holding your own sneezing baby soon x x

ledkr Tue 27-Nov-12 21:41:52

Ponyo they think its easy work but it so isn't! I do support so nitty gritty breakdowns I think recruitment is nice work but loads of paperwork.
Blizy I nearly cried for you when I read your post it must be so bitter sweet for you to hold him when you miss Zoe and so long for your next baby.
You deserve a million babies after what you have suffered.
Zoe would be so proud of her brave mummy x

ILovePonyo Tue 27-Nov-12 22:11:54

Aah ledkr what you said to blizy is very sweet and very true smile

blizy Wed 28-Nov-12 07:50:54

Thanks ledkr, it was bittersweet but I have been blessed with a new nephew, for which I am very grateful. Dh Found it very difficult to see me holding him though.

wigglesrock Wed 28-Nov-12 08:47:04

blizy Morning grin xxxxxxx

Freezing here, off to the granny baby group with Emma and Anna, well at least the foods nice grin

Hope everyone has a nice day. Am off to buy O new school shoes, I'm not sure what exactly happened to her old ones but it looks like a crocodile has chewed them blush

ledkr Wed 28-Nov-12 11:25:52

I think that croc is doing the rounds then cos Ella's were falling off her feet! D can't stop farting still

debka Wed 28-Nov-12 13:18:22

Hey there all,

Fell off the edge of MN again blush.

Have skimmed through and sort of caught up. grannyapple mahoosive congrats on #2, about time we had another one on here! I was 7mo pg when Imy was Sabine's age! shock at the close encounter with reastie's MiL! blizy glad you had such a good time in Vegas, must have been horrid coming home. Welcome back 40weeks!!

My 2 have been poorly and tired for weeks it seems. Last nigh Imy stayed at my mum's. She woke up at 8. S stayed here and slept in till 10 shock. She seems a little unwilling to go for her nap now, can't think why!

Off to a funeral this afternoon sad close friend of mine's mum died of cancer last week. Feels close to the bone for me.

Me and DH are doing a bit better now, thanks for whoever it was who thought of me. We both found it ever so hard with him being away so much. He's back now and things are easier.

debka Wed 28-Nov-12 13:33:49


My daughter rocks. Now, how long should I let her sleep for?....

ILovePonyo Wed 28-Nov-12 20:01:46

Hey all,

deb hope you are feeling ok, so sorry for your friend. Glad to hear you and dh are back on track. How long did S sleep for?!

grin at croc eating shoes, I think A's are too small blush will get her some nice warm boots for winter soon.

A woke up at 4am. And was AWAKE FOR THE DAY shock angry Dp got up with her at half 4, I was so grateful, honestly I don't know how he did it. I have been googling 21 month sleep regression and it might be a 'thing', apparently their speech is developing a lot and A's certainly is, lets hope its over and done with soon!

Off to watch masterchef now... hope everyone is well smile

ILovePonyo Wed 28-Nov-12 21:14:23

Oh I meant to say, dp has stopped smoking for one whole week now! Am super proud, he was on 20+ a day so he's done so well. All the money he's saving he is putting in a little box, we might actually be able to afford to go on hols next year if he keeps this up! <proud> grin

wigglesrock Wed 28-Nov-12 21:37:36

ponyo we've had some early starts this week with Anna, about 4.30ish. A is nattering away too. She calls Santa - Ho Ho - only 2 hos grin. We we're in a shopping centre yesterday up at my Nanas and she kept shouting "Ho Ho" as there were Santas everywhere - we were lucky to escape with our lives - am afraid the local talent thought she was commenting on their outfits blush

Well done to your dp when Mr W stopped - he just stopped, no sneakies or anything.

debka Missed you xx Really glad you and dh are good.

Well talk about from my lips to Gods ears! Have just got text from Mr W to say that he may have wangled Christmas Eve night shift off - he has to work about 3 shifts of overtime just before Christmas but he may just swing it. I tell you his work are afraid of me grin After all I have a daughter who isn't afraid to shout Ho, Ho at the top of her voice in the middle of west Belfast grin

ILovePonyo Wed 28-Nov-12 21:52:17

wiggles that is hilarious, is it wrong that I want to teach A to say "ho ho" too!? So funny grin i like how I moan about the early start but you're dead casual, oh yeah anna woke up at half 4 too wink you're a pro for sure.

Well done Mr W, to be honest I really though dp would have sneaked one by now but hes done really well.

Fingers crossed for xmas ve off for MrW! Good news I should bloody well think so too

debka Wed 28-Nov-12 22:06:22

You poor women, 4am, it's not light for fecking hours at 4am. I couldn't do it. <frantically searches for something wooden>

ponyo massive well done to DP, a week is brilliant. DH cut down a lot but it's creeping back up again. He is just so incredibly vile when he gives up it's generally me begging him to have one after a few days grin. Hope your DP isn't like that.

wiggles ho ho, love it! S comes out with random words all the time now, that I didn't know she knew, latest was WHALE. WTF???? hmm

wigglesrock Wed 28-Nov-12 22:12:49

ponyo I'm ridiculously excited about him having Christmas Eve off - I don't mind having the girls on my own on Christmas morning but because he was doing 10pm - 7am he would have to sleep for a bit during the day and his brother and sil are arriving here on Christmas Eve and all the girls, a jet-lagged couple and Mr W trying to grab a few hours sleep was just adding up to a big hoo ha.

I'm not that bad with the early starts tbh its the endless watching of Baby Jake (bloody catch up tv) and Mr Tumbles that pushes me over the edge grin All I hear from her is "hello" in very cheery tones and a demand for Spotty Bag!

ILovePonyo Thu 29-Nov-12 07:18:07

Yay A woke up up at 6.30 with a couple of wakings in the night, phew!

Deb grin at whale confused I laughed when you said you were persuading dh to smoke, I have been very close to suggesting dp should have a sneaky one as he was so snappy! We ignored each other quite a lot for a few days grin being tired and wanting nicotine not a good combo...

Wiggles your Xmas sounds hectic!

Hope everyone has a good day smile

ledkr Thu 29-Nov-12 09:12:03

Wiggs that reminded me of when I took ds,s on a anti nazi league march and he heard us mention skin heads so started to shout it at the top of his voice risking certain death! We were shitting ourselves.
Ds1 once went up to a disabled car and asked for 10 p for a go on this!
I went grey very early.
Off swimming with the lunatic today I always fel sorry for the life guards tbh hmm

reastie Thu 29-Nov-12 14:16:30

Wiggles that's excellent news grin and love the ho ho story. Alice says father christmas but it comes out 'mis mis'

Ledkr you make me grin with your stories of your DC. Hope you enjoy the swimming

Ponyo well done your DH re: smoking. Alice has been up at night recently too, not so much early starts as up for a few hours during the night <yawn>

Deb so glad things are going a bit better with you and DH. Hope the funeral went OK

40 that's so funny you saw MIL again!

tadjennyp Thu 29-Nov-12 21:58:40

Hello, hope you are all having nice evenings. Hope the funeral went ok and Dilly didn't terrorise the lifeguards too much! Glad things are going better with dh Deb and MrW has Christmas eve off! Hello to 40 again! Congrats to MrPonyo with giving up. Sending sleepy vibes to A and A.

S is currently stalking around the house in his sister's beanie and his brother's sandals singing 'scooby doo, where are you?' grin Think we've watched too many DVDs lately! Nothing else exciting going on here though!

reastie Mon 03-Dec-12 16:33:46

Hi all

Have you heard wills and Kate are expecting? Grannyapple you're in good company wink . Pleased for them but poor Kate going to hospital for extreme MS sad

Tad love the scooby doo story grin

Took Alice to see father 'mis mis' today and also yesterday . She enjoyed it more than I thought she would and keeps saying 'mis mis knee' as she's v proud to have sat on his knee! I tried attaching piccies to my profile but it wouldn't let me so will let you know when I succeed.

blizy Mon 03-Dec-12 17:34:23

Hi reastie, how are you doing? I love that Alice says father miss miss, so cute!

Tad grin, at Sammy.

Well I am in a confused state, my period is 15 days late but I have had 3 bfn's. not a clue what's going on, do you think my ad's are messing with my cycle? I have never been this late before!

Nothing new to report, been living quietly the past week. Weather is rotten and we have snow today. Hope you all had a good weekend.

reastie Mon 03-Dec-12 18:28:18

Wow blizy trying not to get at all expectant or excited for you but that sounds good <crosses fingers>. I have no idea if ads can mess up these things - it's the kind of thing Ledkr might know though. Have you done a regular test? FWIW I have read of people being pg but the test not showing up for a few weeks.

tadjennyp Mon 03-Dec-12 18:31:19

Father 'mis mis' sounds hilarious, reastie. Am nervous about putting a tree up here as I have the feeling Sammy will just bring me bits of it all day long!

Fingers x'd blizy, fingers x'd. We need an emoticon for that surely! Wait another couple of days and try again?

blizy Mon 03-Dec-12 18:33:50

I have used cb digi tests and a cheapy from eBay. I don't think I am pg, I'm pretty sure it is just the ad's messing with me (I don't want to get my hopes up).

reastie Mon 03-Dec-12 19:01:34

Have been googling blizy and looks like it could mess up cycle

blizy Mon 03-Dec-12 19:09:17

Yip I know, I have been googling furiously today!

wigglesrock Mon 03-Dec-12 19:22:09

blizy is there any point in ringing Dr in the morning and getting an appt or will they tell you to just sit tight?. Not meaning to be the big horrible party pooper but my period just stopped for 8 weeks three years ago - funny enough at exactly this time of year. It was one of the main reasons I rejoined MN to ask for advice. I wasn't on any Ads then - it just stopped and I was as regular as clock work.

blizy Mon 03-Dec-12 20:04:32

One step ahead of you there wiggles, I already called the dr but she is full this week and off next week! Think I will sit tight and see what happens.

ledkr Mon 03-Dec-12 20:40:09

Runs onto thread and bites knuckles! blizy oh maybe maybe if your bastard body is winding you up I'm going to slap it. I've not heard if ads messing with cycle but if dr google says then might by be. Get a decent test tomorrow. Any other symptoms?
<gets on the train line to book tickets to blizys! >

ledkr Mon 03-Dec-12 20:40:50

<gags wiggles>

blizy Mon 03-Dec-12 20:53:01

I have had sore (.)(.) but I get that as part of pms anyway. I am. Not going to Poas again until the weekend. I am not getting excited or getting my hopes up though.
<ungags wiggles>

ILovePonyo Mon 03-Dec-12 20:54:15

Ooh blizy I am hoping you start feeling sick soon in the nicest possible way! Are the AD's you're on suitable for being pg on?

Wow at the royal baby, she looked too skinny to get pregnant to me <mean>

A didn't nap all day yesterday and fell asleep on me at 5pm, I put her in bed and she slept through til 6am shock Thats a lie in at the moment!

blizy Mon 03-Dec-12 21:01:53

Ponyo, yes they are fine to take.
Wowza to Anya's super sleep!

The tv is proper crappy tonight, dh is working in Hemel Hempstead this week, it's first he has been away in ages. So bored here! Think I might just take the ipad to bed.

ILovePonyo Mon 03-Dec-12 21:03:48

Good oh blizy!

We are watching friday nights walking dead and then peep show, tv is always crappy at the moment isn' it? Boo. Enjoy your lovely ipad!

ledkr Mon 03-Dec-12 22:03:31

Tv crappy' are you mad? It's the towie love show fgs what wrong with you all?
Blizy you jolly well won't wait till the weekend! grin
Dies dh know you are late. I was always thinking I was pg so when I was late dh said "you always say that" and I was pg lol

Ponyo d is sleeping well once she goes off but having trouble settling her. She gets really upset when I leave her and takes ages to calm down so I just rock her to sleep.
The other day she had no nap and went down at 6.30 till 8 do maybe that's the way forward. Does a still nap at nursery?

blizy Tue 04-Dec-12 07:24:34

Exactly ledkr, it's crap! Didn't need to worry about rubbish tele, I fell asleep!
Yes dh knows, he is quite laid back about it all, tbh I am too.

Right got to go get ready for mindees arriving. Hope you all have a god day.

wigglesrock Tue 04-Dec-12 09:51:48

blizy No-one hopes I'm wrong more than me, not a sentence you will hear from me very often grin

Am taking the girls to get their Christmas haircuts grin today, well its the school nativity plays next week and its all about how they look grin

ledkr Tue 04-Dec-12 12:46:52

Fell asleep? Blizy. Are you feeling tired these days? Hmmmm?

Emski76 Tue 04-Dec-12 13:09:47

Oh Blizy, oh Blizy, please let it be!!!! I'll be crossing my fingers, legs and anything else possible in hopes that it could be the fantastic news both you and dh, and all of us have been waiting for!!
Poor Kate Middleton at the moment. Some insensitive women commented on facebook that why should she be in hospital with morning sickness. I have to be honest and say that I did kind of go to town on them!! So bloody unsympathetic, and full of their own opinions and stuff....ooh......

Reastie, how are you going with your anti d's. I have decided to come off mine. Can't see my doctor as she finishes tomorrow and I have to call each morning to see if they can fit me in. I am taking one every other day for 8 days then stopping but have a weeks worth spare just in case I start cracking up again!!

Noah is great at sleeping but does like to be sang to, when he first goes in his cot. He asks for 'bus' or 'twinkle' and sometimes says 'go' when he's had enough of me. The other night he got upset as dh left his room so I went him, Noah asked for daddy, so dh came in, then Noah asked for Ben!! Cheeky monkey. He has become very skilled at using the iPad to watch things on U Tube, very clever boy!!

Hope your all well.

And Massive congrats to Granny!!!

blizy Tue 04-Dec-12 13:42:37

Haha ledkr, I'm still not sleeping at night. So I'm always tired!

Emski, good luck with the ad withdrawal, please do be careful though. Noah sounds like a cheeky little monkey!

Mindee is asleep finally, he is a big grump today. I'm off out to the Christmas concert at my nephews and wee sis school tonight, oh why did i agree to go again? That will be a few hours of my life gone, ah well at least I will have earned good auntie bonus points! grin

tadjennyp Tue 04-Dec-12 17:17:00

Still keeping fingers and toes crossed for blizy!
Good luck with the AD withdrawal Emski - glad you are feeling strong enough to do that.
Really hoping MrW wasn't involved in those awful riots in Belfast. Come back Wiggs and tell us all is ok?
Glad D and A are sleeping much better now.
Got to write these Christmas cards while S is in nursery!

ILovePonyo Tue 04-Dec-12 20:38:11

Hey all, the mn app isn't working on my phone, how annoying!

ledkr I have had to rock A to sleep a few times recently. yes she still has a nap at nursery, yesterday it was nearly 3 hours so I'll have to tell them not to let her sleep that long again! dp was telling me that some people at work were talking about controlled crying and saying "sometimes you just have to leave them to cry don't you" I was like this hmm and told him "no, they choose to leave them to cry" and that I can't do it. Hmph!

blizy sorry to hear youre not sleeping well. Enjoy the xmas concert, sounds quite sweet smile

emski haha at N saying "go!" when he's had enough of your singing! Brilliant grin

tadj I have xmas cards to write, why does it seem such a chore its only a few cards?! I bought mine in the sales in Jan and managed to find them earlier today <proud>

We picked A up from nursery and got fish and chips for tea, she was fine in the car, got home and she had a massive screaming fit for about 10 minutes out of nowhere shock including lying on the floor crying, we managed to ignore her and she stopped eventually but bloody hell shes loud grin

reastie Wed 05-Dec-12 07:27:32

Ponyo I always buy my christmas cards in the january sales every year grin and my wrapping paper too (although I accidentally got on that says 'Christmas 2011' all over one roll to use for this year - opps!)

I am envy of these babies going to sleep on their own. I still have to walk or drive Alice to sleep for her nap in the day and in the evening bf her to sleep. Last night she actually slept through the night for the first time in ages - yeah!

I've done my Christmas cards but need to write addresses on them - it's that bit which I find a chore.

Grannyapple Wed 05-Dec-12 08:49:35

Morning ladies!

blizy...any news (EVERYTHING is crossed!!)?

Thank you for the well wishes. Have been feeling a bit crappy the past week, not helped by N having sleeping issues...

Do any of the other babies have tantrums when going into the cot at night? He's always been rely good at finishing off his milk & then just rolling over once in his cot. But the past week it's been a screaming match, with lots of leaving him for 5 then 10 mins etc before going back to him. Last night it took well over an hour & a half for him to settle. He was a wee sweaty mess from all the screaming...matted hair & everything. Then wakes in the night & does the same again... Need to get it sorted pronto as DH & I are like zombies at the moment!

Any advice is much appreciated!

reastie Wed 05-Dec-12 10:05:50

Granny just to say Alice does this quite a bit at night at the minute (not when she goes to sleep as she feeds to sleep but in the night) sometimes multiple times a night. I have no idea why. We've had a few weeks of it and have been having to take her out of her bedroom as she gets such a state in her bed and sit with her on the sofa downstairs, where she settles usually quite quickly and will fall asleep on the floor in the sitting room so we can carry her back up to her bed, but if we take her back into her bedroom when she is awake she just loses it and screams and shouts. Sometimes she wants food and drink so we keep an oatcake and beaker upstairs ready to offer. No idea what it is, or that what we are doing is to be recommended, given we seem to have lots of bad habits and hard work with Alice in general with sleeping, but will be interested to hear responses. Glad things are going well, even though you're feeling a bit rubbish.

ledkr Wed 05-Dec-12 10:13:03

Granny d is doing exactly the same for last week. I started a thread ion sleep for advice. It must be an age thing but she is very distressed so I just let her go off on my lap cos I'm soft.
Blizy? Any news for auntie led?

ILovePonyo Wed 05-Dec-12 17:27:53

granny yes yes yes, A has been doing the exact same for the past 2 weeks. Unless she is completely shattered it is a battle to get her to sleep. I have been googling 21 month sleep regression and it might be a 'thing' esp linked to speech as they are learning so much speech wise at the mo. This seems true of A, she also woke at 4am for a while wide awake and ready to chat it seemed hmm

I'm off to look for leds thread in sleep...

ILovePonyo Wed 05-Dec-12 17:28:28

Oh reastie I have all my xmas cards written and cannot be bothered faffing about doing the addresses - it is a chore I agree!

I've not posted in so long that the thread has fallen off Threads I'm On. blush

Last year was the first year I've ever done Christmas cards and did photo cards with a family photo - think it must be one of those naff American things. grin I will do this years once I've had a chance to get my hair done we take a new photo.

blizy - fingers crossed for you! It could be that with your honeymoon you were late to ovulate so hopefully the honeymoon didn't wear you out too much. grin

Thankfully L seems to have missed most of the sleep regressions but has to sleep on his own in a room - he's up hourly if we sleep in the same room. He usually goes into his cot without a full, says "night night" then shouts for about 10 minutes before finally going to sleep. Where's Borg been? I hope N's turned into a model sleeper. grin

WeAreBorg Thu 06-Dec-12 09:07:41

Hellooooo, I'm heeeeere!!! Apologies in advance for terrible spelling, I am on my phone. That's weird that I came on for a nosy at the same time American asked about me, spooky. Not only had a dropped off threads I'm on, I couldn't even remember my password.
How are things? So blitzy, what's happening?? I'm very nervous and excited for you, the tablets wouldn't cause that surely??
Re sleep, you'll be relieved to hear that all is back to normal and N is sleeping exceptionally badly at the moment. He went to bed at nearly 11pm last night and he spent about an hour telling me " went museum, saw big dinosaur, baby dinosaur, big owl, baby owl, big shark, baby shark" etc etc. he never shuts up, I just lie there with a pillow on my head, quietly sobbing.

Have not had chance to read what else has been happening, but hope everyone is okay.
Much like my exact body and hair double, Kate, I am also expecting a baby, will be 8 weeks tomorrow possibly, although I haven't had a proper period since 2010 so I don't actually know. Ha!

ledkr Thu 06-Dec-12 09:13:41

Hello Borg we missed you!
Congrats on new baby I can't believe we are on second babies now.
Needless to say I shan't be joining you haha
Blizy any news?
Well d was an out and out git last night. Up half the night literally paddying to go down but me and dh weren't doing that so she eventually gave up. I'm just about to go into a meeting and look like death

ILovePonyo Thu 06-Dec-12 10:04:40

Morning all,

Borg! Congrats to you smile (you brave woman wink) N sounds very cute with his talking, clever chap!

ledkr and Borg I look like crap, A was awake from 3am wanting to get up, she kept saying "morning!" in the most cheery voice ever hmm Eventually gave her some milk and she kicked me in our bed untll about 4.30 when she fell asleep for a bit. I am feelingin desperate need of sleep now and have a feeling this might last until after xmas, I think all the change at xmas like going to my mums will only make things worse <optimist grin>

Hope everyone has a good day

WeAreBorg Thu 06-Dec-12 10:49:48

Never say never ledkr wink
Ponyo I really do sympathise, I'm sure you look lovely though. N is not clever, he just insists on going to the museum every day.
I have been trying to catch up, just seen that granny is expecting too. That's so funny, shall we have our babies at the same time and call them the same name again? grin
Also find it very funny that 40 met reasties mil, I don't know why that tickled me but it did.

PrincessOfChina Thu 06-Dec-12 19:22:00

Wowzers. Congrats to Borgand GrannySecond babies! Wow! Can you tell I'm not ready for number 2?!

I too have been a bad MNer recently and certainly have not popped in here for some time...in fact I wonder if you can all even remember who I am ;)

We're also having sleep regression agonies here. It's worse than the newborn days. At the start of the week R grumbled all night and then at 4am and demanded to go downstairs and "play with toys". Ugh. Last night was a good one so hoping tonight follows suit. Thinking of loving her into a bed soon...

Christmas looks like being fun this year - R is getting a wooden kitchen so I'm hoping she'll cook the lunch! I've volunteered to cook even though we're at PIL, as MIL usually fusses so much it drives me bonkers and if I cook I can stay in kitchen and drink champagne.

Has anyone started potty training? R is weeing on the potty most days now and does a hilarious speech when she's about to poo. What does one do if they actually poo in the potty? Tip it out and flush? And then what?!

Anyway, nice to pop in, and Blizy I have everything crossed!

ILovePonyo Thu 06-Dec-12 20:43:55

Hi all, and hello choco Princess what a relief to hear that R has been doing similar things to A sleep wise, its got to end soon hasn't it?! We're thinking about a bed for A soon too, prob with a rail on. No potty training here, A knows you wee in the potty but hasnt done it yet. grin at poo speech

I need some advice, A has been a complete misery the last few days after nursery sad As soon as she gets home she cries over nothing after having a good day at nursery, she is whingey and clingy, and being told "no" (if she wants another biscuit for example) sets her off in a hysterical crying fit. I'm sure shes tired, she is prob teething at the back and pushing boundaries, plus getting used to new routine but its exhausting! Heeeelp grin

Grannyapple Thu 06-Dec-12 22:47:29

Yay...snap borg...I'm 8 wks on Sunday apparently...how funny that we are expecting around the same time again..& yeah, may need to check our name choices in advance grin

ponyo totally feel ur pain...N has been exact same this week after nursery...refused to eat dinner tonight...so he had a banana & yoghurt...hoping not, but betting he wakes up AGAIN tonight. Tho no screaming tonight as he was so shattered he didn't finish his milk...only had 40min nap all day at nursery...now wondering if that will be the key to getting him to sleep they again, cutting down his daytime nap to 1 he max hmm

Welcome back american & princess too..

tadjennyp Fri 07-Dec-12 05:17:33

How strange! I was just wondering the other night how you were getting on Borg! Lots of congratulations on number 2! smile I was thinking about Byron too and how things in Greece are for her. Hello choco Princess of China and American too!

Sympathies with all the sleep regression at the moment. S shares a room with E and shouts Wood-oo at him a lot but I'm lucky that he generally goes down. He had a shot this morning and keeps pointing at his leg saying 'I sore', the little fusspot. grin

A has a day off school tomorrow so the teachers can write reports hmm so have invited a friend over to keep her occupied.

blizy Fri 07-Dec-12 08:20:49

Morning everyone.
Yay welcome back Borg and princess! Massive congratulations to Borg, so happy for you.

I still have no af, think I'm day 19 now. I a, going to Poas again at the weekend. I really don't thnk I am pg though.
I finish work at 9am today (do school drop off) then I'm going Christmas shopping, I hate, hate this time of year now. sad we are going to a sands Christmas service tonight, we have invited both sets of grandparents along too <brave>.

reastie Fri 07-Dec-12 08:32:38

Blizy as soon as you have POAS again at the week end, please report back, we are desperate to be updated grin

Wiggles thinking of MrWs today with the Clinton visit.

Congrats borg excellent news.

I know when I said on here I was prescribed citalopram a few people said they had taken it - to those people - did you take nurofen whilst on it? The label says no but my GP (without checking) said yes. I'm very sore throaty and have an ear infection-y sad and a bit worried my GP was wrong as she didn't check.

Alice made me grin this morning - she keeps saying 'nice' and sounds like Borat! She also will spontaneously suddenly say 'happy' when she's happy. It makes my heart melt.

ledkr Fri 07-Dec-12 10:45:21

Blizy I'm so excited but don't want to raise your hopes either. I was in denial with d as it seemed such a miracle at my age and after chemo.
Well we did let dills have a little cry last night and she slept all night so quite glad. I hate it so drove to the shops for 10 mins and she was off.

blizy Fri 07-Dec-12 13:03:56

Reastie i am grin at your little Borat, so funny!

Well done dilly, sleeping all night!

I am back from Xmas shopping and I have forgot to buy a pee stick! I thought I would be freaking out, but I'm not. I just don't think I am pregnant. I think America's explanation is right. Tbh in not too bothered about it, but if I was it would be amazing!

blizy Fri 07-Dec-12 14:11:30

Me again with a quick question. My mum has asked for Swarovski jewellery for Xmas, can anyone recommend a cheaper alternative?

reastie Fri 07-Dec-12 14:25:00

Erm, I don't know blizy but there are some greatly knowledgable ladies on the christmas gift threads I started up - might be worth asking them. I know in the past month or so they've linked to incredibly reduced swarovski jewellery deals so might know of something around at the moment or good alternatives.

blizy Fri 07-Dec-12 14:56:26

Thanks reastie, I have posted on the thread. It's fab btw, well done you! grin

wigglesrock Fri 07-Dec-12 19:38:25

Evening all grin big hellos to PrincessOfChina and congratulations to Borg grin

Quiet few days here hmm Mr W was supposed to be off for a few days, its the last couple of days off together he has until Christmas Eve. We were sitting in a very naice restaurant last night for our annual Christmas outing and his phone rang and all leave has been cancelled and all days off, the air was blue blush. I was supposed to take S and O to the Christmas Market today and out for dinner while he stayed at home with Anna (she's a bloody torture in a public place) and I couldn't do it. He's feckin' lucky I don't go out myself and throw some bloody petrol bombs at him. S and O were fab about it, we've put the Christmas tree up and are now watching One Direction videos!

Olivia is playing with the crib and comparing the "prettiness" of Mary in the crib and on some Christmas cards blush

Had parent teacher meetings today - all good.

blizy I know I was talking you down a few days ago re no period but see that not too bothered feeling you're feeling - thats exactly how I felt with the girls - just sayin' grin

PrincessOfChina re potty poos - I put them down the toilet, then angled the potty into the toilet flush to wash the potty out a bit before cleaning with baby/Flash wipes.

tadjennyp Fri 07-Dec-12 20:12:08

Shite about the leave being cancelled wiggles, but relieved that MrW hasn't been hurt at Stormont. Glad the parent teacher meetings and the Christmas tree decorating went well. Pleased that A (mine, not yours!) hasn't discovered 1D yet. It's only a matter of time, I'm sure. wink

Borg - congratulations! Can't believe you've made the leap, think you've earned a sleeper with this one. grin

Can I admit I'm a teeny bit jealous of Granny and Borg? I'm ready for another baby but it's not in the cards for us right now.

wiggles - that's shite. Does this mean you're on your own for Christmas eve?

L is watching Sesame Street on Netflix and has just taken off his trousers. hmm Like father, like son. grin

ILovePonyo Fri 07-Dec-12 20:49:48

Oh wiggles how rubbish sad At least the girls sound like they're having a good time though! Is he going to be able to take the leave after xmas anytime soon? A seems to be obsessed with prettiness, "pretty flower/dress/whatever" is a common saying hmm

Does anyone have any cough remedies for little one? A has been coughing away since she went to bed, I really feel for her poor baby. Just been giving her juice and dummy but can see it being a rough night <sigh>

wigglesrock Fri 07-Dec-12 20:55:43

tadjennyp I'm all One Directioned out grin S is getting the new CD, a calendar, a sticker book and a giant One Direction pen (which tbh is a tad phallic shock as part of her Christmas presents. I now long for Barbies blush.

americanexpat I bought my brother in law Sesame Street t-shirts today as part of his Christmas box grin Not sure about Christmas Eve - tis a bit of a wait and see. As always hope they've rioted themselves out by then or it snows. No-one likes a riot in the bad weather - part of the beauty of the main contentious month here being July grin

WeAreBorg Fri 07-Dec-12 22:55:48

Wiggles oh no that's rubbish. Thankfully dh is off Christmas but will no doubt end up having to go in.
Princess ha ha ha ha no we don't even have a potty and I've no intention of getting one any time soon. Too lazy, just going to wait till he works it out himself grin
American if this one doesn't sleep I'm taking it back. I know what you mean about the jealousy thing, there's always a part of me that's a bit sad when someone tells me they're pregnant. Not blizy though of course!
Yes good idea not to get your hopes up blizy but what else can it be????

Night all

WeAreBorg Fri 07-Dec-12 22:57:19

Ponyo Manuka honey dissolved in hottish water and lemon. Failing that booze. Booze works.

blizy Fri 07-Dec-12 23:32:30

Well it's all over for me, I have started spotting, I'm ok as I was expecting it.
We were at the SANDS Christmas service tonight, it was lovely.

Ponyo, I hope Anya is better soon.

tadjennyp Sat 08-Dec-12 01:40:45

Rats and double rats blizy. sad Glad the service was lovely.

ledkr Sat 08-Dec-12 08:02:29

Oh blizy I'm sorry but well done for keeping perspective unlike me at least you can drink and eat cheese over Xmas and maybe try for a New Years baby. I'm sure anyone who has been slow to conceive remembers that anxious limbo cos I do and it's soul destroying.
wiggs nightmare about leave. They take the piss don't they? Dh had his last day off for training. No regard for family time or my job!
Aren't the federation voting on this s

ledkr Sat 08-Dec-12 08:09:05

Posted too soon!
They seem to expect so much commitment whilst living on a very average wage and living in the real world!

blizy Sat 08-Dec-12 12:07:15

Thanks girls. I am surprising myself by being so ok about it, pre ad's I would have been a complete state.

Wiggles, utter shit about mr w leave, I am sad and angry for you all.

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

ledkr Sat 08-Dec-12 12:20:15

Blizy that's when it happens. I got to the stage I gave up and just looked ahead I even changed jobs with Ella and only just scraped in for mat leave and pay.
Off to school fair oh joy if joys

blizy - sad When does your DH get his results? I remember those days of being absolutely ready to have a baby and AF arriving every month - it's so unfair, isn't it?

wiggles - I'll be hoping for a pre-Christmas blizzard. grin

wigglesrock Sat 08-Dec-12 20:14:33

blizy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

ledkr my parents took S and O to the Christmas Fair this week - my Dad spent £10 on lucky dip tickets and won a bottle of antifreeze disguised as wine grin It will be regifted back to the school next Christmas grin

blizy Sat 08-Dec-12 20:34:08

American, he will prob get the results in the next week or 2.
I really am fine, just had pizza for dinner, which always helps!

ledkr Sat 08-Dec-12 22:01:26

wiggs I won a vile pot on the raffle rather than the wine I wanted. I actually gave it back there and then as Delilah had decided she needed to be carried around the fair!
Was a little boring tbh and I was glad to leave there clutching my home made cakes

wigglesrock Sat 08-Dec-12 22:14:20

ledkr grin, my Dad just keeps muttering "the noise, the noise" if you ask him what it was like grin

ledkr Sat 08-Dec-12 22:27:34

Haha like hrs traumatised. My fav bit was dillys meltdown precisely under the Xmas tree in the hall in front of everyone whilst I struggled to get her up. This was because I'd taken off her thick coat as it was hot. Il let her boil from now on. grin
Is anyone else's babe obsessed with wellies?
D wears them constantly if not her uggs then goes mental if I take them off for bath etc.
yesterday she was trying to be big like els and her mate so was sat at the table pretending to laugh whilst holding her face and shaking her head then sort of tutting and roping her eyes. We were literally all in hysterics I've never seen anything ole it before.

ledkr Sat 08-Dec-12 22:28:08

Like not ole hmm

ILovePonyo Tue 11-Dec-12 15:58:28

Hello peeps, its been quiet here!

blizy you sound ok about things, hope that is the case. You said you knew anyway didn't you? At least you can relax over xmas and have a wine grin

ledkr grin at D having a hissy fit about her coat. I saw a childrens book in waterstones called something like "I love my wellies" and thought of you and D, how random!

I am fed up with grumpy A and her waking at 5.30am blush honestly she wakes up, cries, has breakfast and then cries b'cos shes still tired. I feel bad packing her off to nursery but grateful that they have to deal with her. Oh god that sounds awful doesn't it?! I feel like a cow saying it but its true sad

Also its my dads birthday tomo and I have been dreading it for the past few weeks, its just a big fat reminder he's not here anymore.

Excuse self indulgent post, on the upsode I've done a load of crimbo shopping this afternoon smile

blizy Tue 11-Dec-12 16:07:38

Ponyo the firsts are always the hardest,as is the build up to the "big day".
I will thinking about you tomorrow.

Still no AF, as I said I had a bit of spotting but it was only once and visible when I wiped after going to the loo (sorry, tmi). I am still getting bfn, I have a doctor appointment next Monday (have to see her anyway for. Check up about the ad's). Dh should get his semen analysis results next week too <nervous>.
It is starting to get to me now, I think it's the not knowing and he waiting!

ILovePonyo Tue 11-Dec-12 16:44:50

Very true about the 'firsts' blizy.

Agree also about the not knowing and waiting, if you knew for definite it would be much easier imho! Spotting you say, are you feeling sick at all?! How frustrating for you though. Hopefully monday will come around quickly!

tadjennyp Tue 11-Dec-12 17:44:54

I spotted with Sammy! Might it be an implantation bleed? Still keeping fingers crossed.

Thinking of you tomorrow Ponyo for you Dad's birthday. sad Hope A gives you a lie-in too.

How are everyone's Christmas preps going? I still have a few more bits to order and then hopefully we're done.

Hope bedtime goes smoothly for everyone.

ledkr Tue 11-Dec-12 19:29:06

I spotted too blizy well done on staying grounded though it must be frustrating. Are there any other symptoms?
ponyo d did that for ages I do thinks it their teeth. It just stopped out if the blue.
I just sky plus stuff to watch and lay on sofa drinking tea and took it in turns with dh. It's horrible though going to bed counting how long you got to sleep?
I realised the other day that it will be first Xmas without my nan and yes it's very sad ill miss her getting the giggles after tooany sherrys and farting when she got up to use the loo grin
Well I'm very stressed excited. We are off to Disney Paris on Friday for few days. It's too bloody expensive but its meant to be magical for the kids. We are back on 18th then back at work till Xmas eve. We must be mad. I've done most of the shopping but still feel panicky losing all the shopping days but we have agreed to just enjoy it and relax.
I'm missing out on money as I usually do the Kirsty but of fairy tail of New York with my mates band. It pays well and it's the first year I've not done it since I was about 25.
I know I've told you a bit before but I have finally posted on the stately homes thread. I'd love your thoughts on it especially as you all know me even if it is virtual.

ILovePonyo Tue 11-Dec-12 20:50:34

Ahh god A was just a delight when I got her home from nursery, being funny and cute, hiding from us in the kitche, I feel so mean now! Bless her.

<whispers> blizy I had implantation bleeding too wink

led yes A is deffo teething, poor thing. I also just lie on the settee with cups of tea smile Wow to your hols, good for you, the girls will love it and it will be all nice and christmassy! Hope xmas is ok, have a sherry for your nan grin
Will read stately homes thread, back later.

tadj I am going to wrap presents now after my big shop today! Am also nearly done, what a relief eh smile

ledkr Tue 11-Dec-12 21:54:29

Ah bless A. When they are sweet they really are as cute as they come aren't they?
D was with my mum today and when I turned up she walked quickly and purposefully towards me and hugged me for ages whilst patting my back. She then wouldn't let me put her down to get stuff and was all sort of panicky until I started driving off and she visibly relaxed and started singing.
Not heard from wiggs I hope mr w is ok. Very scary time for the coppers there.

Another spotter here, blizy. Also had a quick vomit out of the blue on the same day, then a week later got a BFP. I will keep my fingers crossed for you but you're right not getting your hopes up. It's easier to be surprised than disappointed iykwim.

Ponyo - L did the same for 2 weeks, up at 5:30 every day then spent a week sleeping until 8:30. Teething seems to take months when molars are involved. hmm Also thinking about you with your dad's bday.

Well, I've had a job offer. grin They are willing to pay me stupid money too, my face was literally shock when she told me the salary on offer. I'm going to miss being home with L a bit but I'm looking forward to going back to work and have someone appreciate my skills beyond bum wiping. grin

Where's reastie been? I seem to have a knack for attracting lost posters. wink

ledkr Wed 12-Dec-12 07:29:24

American what is it you do?
blizy any news

ledkr Wed 12-Dec-12 07:30:13

Reastie is busy on the Xmas bargain gift thread. The defector

reastie Wed 12-Dec-12 07:33:07

<waves to american > Helllooooooooooo, you can't lose me that easily wink . I've just been a bit rubbish lately MH wise - saw a psychiatrist last week and a psychologist today confused , also Alice and I have a cold and a moany Alice is very tiring

American well done you - that's fab news re: job. What is it? <nosy> I'd like a job for silly money please grin

Ledkr didn't know what that stately home thread was and was thinking 'but ledkr doesn't live in a stately home, has she suddenly won the lottery or something' blush . Really feel for you in what you've said. I can't offer any advice just a big hug. Does your Mum realise what she's doing? DO you think some of it is because you are so good at being quite independent and coping?

Blizy I'm half getting excited for you but also don't want to bring a downer on everything but the month before I was pg I got a really odd period - just a bit of spotting and that was it. I thought I might have been pg as it never happens for me just to get a little like that, but I wasn't. It did happen for me the following month though. Sorry, not wanting to stop your hopes as I'm keeping everything crossed for you. You sound really grounded about it, but Ponyo is right, it must be the not knowing that is driving you mad! Just keep testing all the time Keep us updated.

blizy Wed 12-Dec-12 07:33:52

Still nothing ledkr. confused. My next af is due next week, so. Guess I'll wait till then?

Ponyo, sending you my love and thoughts today. X

ledkr Wed 12-Dec-12 07:39:56

HAve you been using crap tests? Did you read up on getting bfn?
Are you ever late?

Emski76 Wed 12-Dec-12 12:43:16

Hi all
Just wanted to pop and say thinking of you Blizy. I had a small amount of bleeding for 10 days with Noah, then did pg test after starting to feel sick and was 5 weeks pregnant. Don't want to get your hopes up but it does happen!

Am now off to look at Stately homes thread and Xmas bargains thread xx

ledkr Wed 12-Dec-12 18:35:21

<Whistles and Lurks past pokes nose in to see if blizy has updated>

ILovePonyo Wed 12-Dec-12 20:25:00

grin ledkr I saw your stately homes posts. You've got some really good advice there, I feel for you you know, hope you don't mind me saying but some shocking treatment from your mum, honestly. I want to give you an un-mumsnetty hug!

american come back and tell us what job you do! Congrats on the job offer and mega bucks grin wink And thanks for the reassuring words re A's sleep, oh god I'd LOVE for her to sleep til 8.30am <dreams>

Hope wiggles is ok.

Blizy thanks for your kind words today. I have just felt generally shite, we had curry for tea and a red wine as that was my dads favourite, he always wanted to go out for/order in curry when he came to visit as his partner doesn't like it! I just miss him sad At least I have got today over and done with (nearly)

blizy Wed 12-Dec-12 21:03:30

I must have Americans post about the ne on, congratulations lady!

Wiggles, hope everything is ok?

grin at ledkr.
I had a look on the stately homes thread, I feel so incredibly sorry and sad for you ledkr. I know a little of how you feel and it is just horrid. I hope you have got some good advice on the other thread. Like Ponyo I want to give you a hug.

I have a little more spotting today, again when I wiped after going to the loo (it is only happening when I have a number 2). Very strange?

ledkr Wed 12-Dec-12 21:18:06

Thanks girls
blizy I know you have odd family stuff too the bastards. What would really help me now is to be a virtual auntie to be grin I am actually more excited than you. Obviously the pooh thing mean a little straining so unsurprising.
Well Ella is puking up and so I'm on bed with her whilst d is downstairs refusing to sleep. We are meant to be away tomorrow so hope it doesn't go through us all

Emski76 Wed 12-Dec-12 21:26:10

Ledkr, hope Ellafeels better, enjoy your trip to EuroDisney, it's gonna befab there at Xmas time!

Ponyo, hope your day has been ok, your dad will always be with you. Xx

Blizy, i had almost the exact same thing when I was pregnant with Noah! Oh how we all hope it's your time!

American,congrats on the job offer.

ILovePonyo Wed 12-Dec-12 21:29:23

Ugh ledkr bad timing hope E is ok and the rest of you are ok <fingers crossed>

blizy hmmmm.... you can only wait and see I suppose, how annoying, stupid bodies being confusing!!

Off to bed soon in preperation for the 5.30am start hmm ledkr enjoy your mini hol am jealous smile

ILovePonyo Wed 12-Dec-12 21:30:03

Ah thanks emski smile lovely thing to say

blizy Wed 12-Dec-12 22:10:38

Ponyo, huge hugs to you, remember tomorrow is another day. X

Ledkr hope you have a fab holiday, I'm a bit jealous. Poor Ella, sending get well vibes down to,you.

Oh reastie, I meant to say dh is working in your town this week!

WeAreBorg Wed 12-Dec-12 23:03:43

Ponying, oh it all must be so hard for you, missing your lovely dad, hope you are okay. Glad anya is making you laugh.
Haven't seen the thread ledkr, hope you are all well for your holiday.
Blizy, you Are very sensible and calm about all this, I would be a mess. I think you are handling things brilliantly.
Reasties, didn't realise you had been referred to a psychiatrist, how was that? Hope all okay
Agree, dying to know what Americans job is!
Really tired, so going to bed now, night all

WeAreBorg Wed 12-Dec-12 23:04:18

Ponying? Pronto! Stupid phone

WeAreBorg Wed 12-Dec-12 23:05:02

Wtf, ponyo not pronto, please ignore all my posts

tadjennyp Thu 13-Dec-12 05:38:52

Hope Els gets better really soon and you have a wonderful time in Disney, ledkr . I read the stately homes thread and there are some great ladies on there with some amazing advice. I hate favouritism with a vengeance. angry

Ponyo I hope today is a better day for you. Having his favourite meal is a lovely way to remember him!

Congrats on the job American . So excited for you!

reastie I hope the appointments are working and you get on an even keel again soon. [hugs]

Borg hope you get out of the tired phase soon.

Emski - how's it going for you?

blizy still fingers x'd!

Nothing going on here - dh still not home from work at nearly 10pm. confused

Hope the babies are still asleep!

reastie Thu 13-Dec-12 07:28:14

oh ledkr how rubbish - hope she's feeling better and you don't get it.

Blizy big waves to your DH! Shame you didn't accompany him this time - we couldn't had a meet up wink . I am massively crossing my fingers for you but with no pressure. It would be the best christmas present ever. For all of us here. I really mean that.

Borg not suprised you're tired - you're posting at 11pm - that's way past my bed time!! Oh, I meant to ask you - did you ever get a bathroom done in your house you were talking about ages ago?

Ponyo how are you feeling today? SOunds like a lovely way to remember your Dad

reastie Thu 13-Dec-12 09:03:19

Oh yes, and wiggles where are you??? Hope mr w is OK

Emski76 Thu 13-Dec-12 13:13:04

Hi all
Tad, thanks for asking. Been off the ad's for a week now, took one every other day and took my last one Tuesday. Feeling very raw and on the edge but am hoping this s just withdrawal. Cried in front of the boys this morning because I lost my temper with them, then cried again because Ben is so sweet to me when I'm upset and it made me feel guilty. Everything seems too much at the moment, but I don't feel depressed or anything, just overwhelmed. Fingers crossed it will improve soon.

Wiggles, did think about you this week when i saw the news, hope all is ok.

Ledkr, how is Ella today? Has she stopped up chucking?

Hi Borg, yes agree with Reastie, I am in bed well before 11pm!

Ems - hopefully it's just a rough patch from coming off the ADs. Give it some time but don't be afraid to start them again if you need to.

ledkr - Hope Ella is feeling better and not spread her illness around. Can't remember where you live - are you flying to Paris? Couldn't pay me enough to fly with a toddler again. grin Your family sounds so horrible - can't believe they didn't invite you to family Christmas, not to mention siding with your abusive ex. You deserve so much better.

reastie - I knew I would reel you in. grin I hope things are improving MH-wise. Is it going to be ongoing treatment or just a one-off?

I'm going to be a software developer at a healthcare software company. They're massive already and rapidly expanding, so clearly business is booming for them. I'm going to be making twice as much as DH. shock Fortunately he's not insecure about it, he asked if I'd buy him a helicopter. grin

wigglesrock Thu 13-Dec-12 19:39:34

Sorry, sorry just sticking my head up above the parapet grin

Reastie Are you still off work? Hope you are taking care of yourself xx

ponyo I thought about you and your Dad yesterday xx

ledkr Have a fantastic time. Are all very envy here about your trip

americanexpat Congratulations, well done. I'll take a helicopter if you're offering wink

Emski I remember that feeling - its different from that horrible sinking blackness everythings just a bit too much - don't underestimate a good cry [hug]

blizy big wave xx

I have no idea how Mr W is angry, I haven't really seen him since last Friday. He's on 15/16 hour shifts with no days off so am getting a few texts here and there and think he came to bed for a few hours last night. The girls Nativity plays have been on this week so have had to do a whole heap of rearranging as he was supposed to be covering 2 of them. Saw Olivias last night, it was lovely grin but Sofias is fantastic, its more of a traditional one and I will be honest and I wept the whole way through it yesterday afternoon blush My Mum is away to tonights final performance - she will cry more grin

Somehow watching 7 and 8 year olds singing etc was even more sob inducing than the 4 and 5 year olds grin

ledkr Sat 15-Dec-12 13:32:59

Hi all. Of course it's lovely here but don't be too jel it's freezing but we are wrapped up well.
Wiggs I wept last night at the girls faces watching the fireworks. Dilly was clapping and cheering despite the cold and rain.
She runs away in horror at the characters which gives us all a laugh.
Donald Duck was too persistent at breakfast so she threw her glass of oj at him shouting "go away quack quack" whol restaurant in fits'
Hope all good.
blizy any news?

ledkr - I literally LOL'd at D and Donald, can't imagine where she gets it from. grin

wiggles - that's rubbish. angry Don't they have health & safety rules limiting the hours they can work?

blizy Sat 15-Dec-12 19:21:04

Ledkr, dilly is very funny! I'm glad you are all having a lovely time.
No news, still nothing.

Wiggles, hope you and mr w are able to spend time together soon.

Emski, how are you feeling?

I had a fab in town today with my wee sis, we done some shopping and had a wander around the Christmas market and George square for some ice skating.

Came home and dh and I put the Xmas tree up, the first since Zoe died. We have a bauble with hr name on and a pink butterfly for her on the tree. God, I miss my Zoe bear.

Hope everyone is doing ok.

ILovePonyo Sat 15-Dec-12 19:58:07

Hello all,

ledkr I did a big grin at D and "go away quck quack" that is bloody hilarious, I told dp and he laughed too smile Glad youre having a nice time. Aw at girls and fireworks.

blizy your day sounds lovely, I keep trying but can't think what to write for you to say how how sorry I am and how much I know you love and miss Zoe. The bauble is lovely, it must be so hard but you are doing the right thing. I will be thinking of you and Z often over the next few weeks x x

wiggles I am always amazed at amount of crap MrW has to put up with work wise angry You always seem so chipper (?!) about it. Aaaahh at nativities, so cute!

american wow at the job, well done you! grin at the helicopter.

emski I missed that you were stopping your ad's, how are you feeling now? Ben sounds like such a sweetie smile

Borg grin at the many typos, you're even funny when spelling things wrong!

We had a v busy day today, park in the morning with A;s little friend, then town, then crafty fair with friends then shopping. Ridiculous! We had lunch at bella italia where A stuffed her face with pasta and then pudding, she was really good bless her (possibly b'cos there was a boy there a bit older than her having a massive tantrum for ages, she was fascinated grin)

wigglesrock Sat 15-Dec-12 21:07:38

ledkr grin at D - thats so funny

blizy your day sounds lovely, I'm glad you put the tree up xxxxxx

ponyo A sounds so good, I doubt Anna would have lasted five minutes at any of the activities without destroying something grin

Well again its a bit of be careful what you wish for grin The Wiggles household have been struck by a vomiting bug. Mr W was sent home sick from work last night at about 11pm and was sick a few times. Anna vomited from 7pm last night until about 4am, although both of them are now grand hmm. Olivia is already on antibiotics for another bad throat sad. And I've been boking from about 4pm, am now finally starting to feel slightly more alive grin

americanexpat there are supposed to follow EU working time directives but operational needs can override that. If I don't get a sneaky trip to Paris in the New Year I'm throwing all my toys out of the pram and going on my own grin

Right am away before I infect you all, I'm as weak as a kitten me grin

blizy Sat 15-Dec-12 21:25:57

Oh no wiggles, I hope you all feel better soon. X

Grannyapple Sat 15-Dec-12 21:27:04

Omg ledkr that is too funny, D & Donald Duck incident...I literally have tears down my face & dh spat out his tea when I told him grin

blizy huge (((hugs)))

Grannyapple Sat 15-Dec-12 21:28:35

Oh wiggs sorry to hear of lurgy infected household...fx everyone is over it for next w/e x.

ledkr Sun 16-Dec-12 10:01:34

Glad you can all laugh though. She is a bit of a heller on this trip won't sleep for ages doesn't like buggy or walking so its ups and downs if I'm honest. I cried last night cos so tired and d wouldn't sleep it's like Xmas really high expectations so hysterical if all goes wrong.
Dh is always hard work on hols. Lacks motivation to do get organised ie pack bags go for breakey so I feel as if I'm the only adult it's very frustrating. I'm making him go on terror towers today to teach him a lesson and sharpen him up

MizK Sun 16-Dec-12 16:55:31

Hi everyone, have been slack as ever but because am being held hostage by Cassia in front of CBeebies, thought I'd catch up!
Sounds like blizy and ponyo have had lovely days, bet you're tired now though!
ledkr hope D sleeps tonight, its bloody hard to take them anywhere at this age (I mean D not DH obvs!)Hope you have a good time despite the stress x
wiggles get well soon! Hope vomming stops, its so draining to be puking and looking after others, although hopefully this means no one will get ill over Xmas if you've had your share now!
Heeuge belated congratulations to borg and granny on the new babies to be! And full admiration for managing spirited toddlers while pg smile
Hello to everybody else, on phone so can't scroll back, hope everybody is well?
I have finished all my assignments for this term so fully relaxed now and excited for christmas. Love it! Am practising making yummy braised red cabbage today so it goes well on xmas day (I usually buy it ready prepped like a true lazy bones) it smells so good! Plus DD1, DS and I made a gingerbread house last night, we were intears of laughter by the end cause it looked so crap and wonky! Cass has already launched several attacks in an attempt to eat it tho so it must look OK to her!

MizK Sun 16-Dec-12 16:57:21

doh just realised blizy and ponyo must have been out yesterday not today (am massive simpleton)

tadjennyp Mon 17-Dec-12 05:21:33

Loving the Disney stories and hope dh gets his arse into gear for you ledkr

Get well soon wiggs. Hope you get your trip to Paris too.

Yay to gingerbread houses Mizk - mine did a train today, well dd mostly! Glad you have finished for the year too!

Loved the bauble for Zoe blizy - how you love and remember her is so tender. [hugs]

Sounds like a really busy day Ponyo!

Hope everyone else is doing well. Sammy keeps walking round singing 'jimmel bells' and 'jimmel bell rock'. He's also discovered a fondness for chocolate buttons. Thanks Dad! Can't get them here so that'll make a cheap present for his birthday for gps to send!

reastie Mon 17-Dec-12 06:38:42

Blizy good luck for the GP apt today - let us know how it goes and make them give you an HCG (or whatever it's called) blood test or something just to find out once and for all what is up with AF

Wiggles hope you're all better now and Olivia and Sophia have escaped it.

Mizk hope the cabbage went well. I did that last year and it was really nice but I made wayyyyyy too much and we had enough to feed the 5000 just with cabbage blush

Ledkr hope you're having a good time and DH is helping out a bit more. Dilly sounds so funny!

Hopefully I'm off to see needtosleepzzz today grin