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October 2011 - my, oh my, how the first years flew by!! It's birthday season!!

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MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 19-Sep-12 21:33:03

So excited that the first birthdays are upon us! Will try get a copy of the stats..

Thanks Duck just marking my place smile

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 19-Sep-12 22:09:40

Stats! Really hope ive not missed anyone blush. Think this is everyone who is on thread/in fb group.

B - 16/09/11 - 3lb 14oz
E-M - 20/09/11 - 5lb 11.5oz
A-R - 20/09/11 - 6lb 1oz
C - 24/09/11 - 6lb 13oz
L - 29/09/11 - 7lb 9oz
S - 30/09/11 - 6lb 2oz
L - 03/10/11 - 8lb 12oz
N - 04/10/11 - 4lbs 5oz
P - 05/10/11 - 6lb
A - 06/10/11 - 7lb 7oz (3.5kg)
E - 08/10/11 - 8lbs 4oz
S - 14/10/11 - 9lb 2oz
M - 15/10/11 7lb 4oz
E - 16/10/11 - 8lbs 10oz
E - 19/10/11 - 9lbs 15oz
L - 22/10/11 - 9lb 6oz
J - 22/10/11 - 9lb 3oz
M - 25/10/11 - 7lb 5oz
M - 26/10/2011 - 8lbs 12oz
S - 27/10/2011 - 7lb 4oz
W - 27/10/11 - 9lb
L - 3/11/11 - 8lb 7oz
Buddy - 05/11/11 8lb 2oz
L - 10/11/11 - 7lb 0.5oz

bilblio Wed 19-Sep-12 22:22:01

Marking my place. Hello! Long time no see. I will attempt to keep up. About to go to bed but...

tomorrow S has his 12 monthish check, and after a spell of horrendous nights where he's (comfort) feeding half the night, tomorrow we're going to finally move DH's computer into our bedroom, dismantle the desk, and put S in his own room. Thankfully the painting was all done months ago, it just need furniture moving in.
We've been co-sleeping, I fastened his cot to our bed so we had space, but I thought he'd be sleeping through by now. I'm back in work, I'm tired, I'm grumpy and I can't keep it up any longer... I've got 4 days off now, but I suspect I'm going to spend numerous night on the floor next to his cot.

I'll try to catch up tomorrow.

Scheherezade Wed 19-Sep-12 22:26:22

Hello! Another one that fell off. Just marking place and letting you all know things are grand with us smile

EdwardorEricCantDecide Wed 19-Sep-12 22:35:08

Thanks duck can't believe the first of our little babies is now one.
Does anyone know how little bea is doing?
Happy birthday to ayse and Edith for tomorrow smile
duck I'm loving pinterest thanks for the invite grin

Hope everyone else is well
What is everyone's plans for 1st birthday celebrations?

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 19-Sep-12 22:35:37

good to hear from you both smile
sche not long till C big birthday! I believe he is next after bb3 girls!!

Fleecy Wed 19-Sep-12 22:35:49

Hello! Haven't been on for aaaaages but thought it would be nice to catch up.

Lara is well, can't believe how time has flown by and we have settled into life as a family of five. DD1 went into Year 1 last week and DS started Reception so Lara is now the only one at home.

Bilblio - sympathies. I'm self employed and was offered a project too good to turn down over the summer, leading to crazy hours. It's hard juggling it all.

Hope all is well with everyone!

EdwardorEricCantDecide Wed 19-Sep-12 22:35:49

Good to see you scheh <waves>

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 19-Sep-12 22:39:40

ed its totally addictive!!!! so many great ideas/things to try! hope you managed to get all your supplies smile

birthday planning will be happening next week. ive got presents all bought and wrapped and ive made some decorations, just waiting on balloons etc coming from ebay. ive got friends/family coming to my parents house for a wee afternoon party. was hoping to be out in the garden but its got rather chilly here!! i think im still in denial that S is about to turn 1.... ONE!!!!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 19-Sep-12 22:40:52

my pleading on the fb group has worked!! welcome back to all the originals grin

EdwardorEricCantDecide Wed 19-Sep-12 22:52:16

I love that it's turned cold grin and happy to admit that I'm weird in this respect I much prefer winter to summer, the weather's usually better in Scotland well drier at least, the fashion tends to be better in autumn winter and not just cause its more forgiving plus it has Halloween bonfire night and Xmas, what's not to love. Think I have that SAD disorder just the wrong way round grin
Mhairi's winter coat should e ready to pick up next week smile I'm going to wrap that and her shoes as birthday presents. She's also got a snail rocker/ride on thing from gumtree mamas and papas and a few other bits.
Not planned any celebrations yet but will probably just be family with some tea and birthday cake.

BuntCadger Wed 19-Sep-12 22:57:12

<sits down patiently waiting for any spare birthday cake>

actually I'm off to bed as little mischief is a right pickle and I suspect those back teeth are the cause

golemmings Wed 19-Sep-12 23:21:56

Part timer checking in here. I struggle to cope with the amount you lot post so generally fall off the threads by about page 6...

Anyway, for the stats, A 6/10. 9lb8.

We've spent this month sleep training and although he still feeds to sleep, after a dream feed at 10ish he usually sleeps through to 6 and if he doesn't I send DH in because, you know, it would be mean to go in myself smelling of milk and all...

I go back to work in 12 days. DH is taking yetanother year out to look after kids but both will do a couple of days in nursery because dd got so much out of it. A has settled in brilliantly which is great.

No great plans for his birthday. Don't really have any friends with younger dcs to invite plus its the ntc nearly new sale in the morning (i'm going to sell shed loads of baby stuff) and the following day I'm running a half marathon and hoping to meet friends for lunch so we'll be out all day. Might manage tea and cake on sat pm for him.
Bunt, happy to share cake with you!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 19-Sep-12 23:28:07

Great to hear from you to go smile. I'll update stats tomorrow as I've just remembered lbm. Need little R's stats if your reading lbm

LittlePebble Thu 20-Sep-12 00:07:39

Marking place.
<Waves at everyone>
<Gets ready for lots of birthday cake> smile

Scheherezade Thu 20-Sep-12 02:26:06

Yep, its C's first on Monday! We're taking him to either the zoo, or blue Planet if its raining on the weekend with family smile

He has far too many presents.

ClimbingUnicorns Thu 20-Sep-12 07:59:26

me and DS have fallen off that list sad

Climbingpenguin Thu 20-Sep-12 08:03:13

have name changed back smile

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 20-Sep-12 08:03:50


I had 2 lists on the go at one point, copied from fb and from the stats here. To much copy and paste I think...

Will promise I will update it later today blushblushblushblush

Penelope1980 Thu 20-Sep-12 08:42:02

Hello! Seeing that list was good - go our babies have the same birthday and initial grin

BuntCadger Thu 20-Sep-12 11:20:39

bb3 happy birthday to E & A <sings happy birthday song>

Awful night. Ds2 had bad pains in belly to point he couldn't walk. Ended up at sr who thought wee infection. Woke at 2am with ds2 gagging he pr

BuntCadger Thu 20-Sep-12 11:23:39

bb3 happy birthday to E & A <sings happy birthday song>

Awful night. Ds2 had bad pains in belly to point he couldn't walk. Ended up at sr who thought wee infection. Woke at 2am with ds2 gagging he promptly threw up over himself, me, bed, floor and then bathroom. Poor boy.

Very tired people here today

Scheherezade Thu 20-Sep-12 15:31:24

Happy birthday bb3 girls!

Happy birthday to your girls bb3

bunt hope DS is feeling better x

Climbingpenguin Thu 20-Sep-12 19:36:54

bunt DD was borderline UTI yesterday, managed to get loads of fluids in time and headed it off. I think. Hope your boobs and DS are doing well

TallyBear Thu 20-Sep-12 21:36:51

Happy birthday to the twins!! smile

Bunt Hope DS2 is OK, poor thing.

Ed I would love winter but I hate the cold! I got Seb a rocking cow from E-bay - perfect condition and he loves it.

Bilb S may sleep better in his own room - Seb did. He seems to love it.

<waiting for lots of fat-free birthday cake!>

BuntCadger Fri 21-Sep-12 01:04:49

Have had to leave Jessica for first time and don't even own bottles or pump. Gave her quick Dreamfeed before taking ds2 up to hospital. Waiting to be seen by dr as OOH GP suspects appendicitis sad

MrsHende Fri 21-Sep-12 07:17:48

I hope everything's ok bunt? What a stressful night.

Happy birthday to the girls!

Long weekend here smile. Can you believe that's us teachers on holiday already, hooray!

L never cried when I left her at nursery yesterday! First time! I then of course cried on my way from nursery to work, sad that wasn't missing me. What a numpty.

She seems to be catching every bug going just now. This week it's a horrible chesty cough. I'm told by friends that I've got six months of this ahead of me before she's built up an immunity to nursery germs.

Well, I've had my lie in I suppose. Better get up and see what crazy outfit DH has put her in!

LittlePebble Fri 21-Sep-12 07:31:56

Bunt hope DS is ok and Jessica was ok without you.

Happy birthday to E and A, wow a year already (where did the time go!!)

MrsH I'm so jealous of my teacher friends why didn't I train to be a teacher! The enforced holidays would be perfect for me now. wonders if a career change is in order

E is full of cold here so my day off yesterday was fairly stressful looking after him and DP but he slept last night so hopefully he'll be better today. Don't think I'll be able to leave him if he isn't.

Ips how're the wedding plans going??

MummyDuckAndDuckling Fri 21-Sep-12 08:16:37

bunt poor S, hope all is ok smile
lp yep, it's been snot central in the duck household for over a week now! Her nose is like a tap!! I'm giving her till over the weekend to get better and if not I'll be back at the gp. I took her on Tuesday and she listened in to her chest as I thought she was sounding croaky, but it's clear so just paracetamol if needed sad. She is coughing like crazy in the night so got her some cough mix which helped last night.

I gave S her first cup of cows milk yesterday. I said that once the formula was done I wasn't buying any more, so ive just enough for few night time bottles and that's it! She did really seem to enjoy it. Before if I've gave her a wee cup of formula, she's taken a sip but she drank the full cup! When would you expect to drop the night time bottle? She still drinks a full 7oz before bed so don't want to stop it yet, plus I feel that it's all extra calcium just now. Yesterday she had 3oz milk at waking, milk with her readybrek, 1/2 beaker in afternoon then 7oz before bed. Anyone else about the same?

I'm dropping S at my parents shortly as I'm helping out with kids arts and crafts at a food event at shopping centre.

mrsh enjoy your long weekend!

EdwardorEricCantDecide Fri 21-Sep-12 10:19:04

bunt hugs to S hope he's feeling better and J ok without you.
duck M is the exact same she usually gets these symptoms when teeth are on the way hopefully its only that.
milk wise M get cows milk in weetabix, a 6oz bottle at around 3pm and an 8oz bedtime bottle (plus another 4-5oz if she wakes in the night) over the next few weeks i intend to change the afternoon bottle to a cup of cows milk maybe with a cracker or something then i'll change bedtime bottle to cows milk after that.
i gave C a bottle of milk at bedtime till he was 2yo as he refused milk in a cup and still drinks v v little.

EdwardorEricCantDecide Fri 21-Sep-12 10:25:13

ooh duck is that at silverburn? that sounds fab, but we already made plans this weekend so cant go sad am genuinely gutted, think i enjoy all the craft stuff more than christopher lol

pinkpainter Fri 21-Sep-12 10:44:35

Ed and Duck - My DD1 had milk in a bottle for at least 2 years too, and although she's now almost 4 she still has milk at night before bed, but in a cup.

We've started giving M formula before bed to fill her up (she's still bf the rest of the time, but I'm planning to give up after a year). She still wakes twice in the night though....yawn!!

M has had a cold since April/May, apart from 2 weeks during August. I'm really careful about washing hands before eating and when we come in from anywhere and my house is really clean so I can't understand where all these germs are coming from and why she can't fight it. I'm starting to wonder whether it's an allergy to something.

bunt hope DS is ok

Ooh I was wondering about moving onto cows milk in a couple of weeks, glad others are trying it! Will have to get some and see what he thinks!

We're another household with colds. W picked it up at nursery and gave it to me. I partly blame the fact I suck his dummy to clean it if he drops it while we're out. I'm giving him 'til Monday to clear it then it's a gp visit as he'll have had it a week by then and he's got a horrible chesty cough with it thats waking him up at night.

pinkpainter Fri 21-Sep-12 15:53:45

We're definitely moving straight to cows milk at a year strawberry, instead of the formula feed, then I'll gradually start phasing out the bfeeds too.

ipswichwitch Fri 21-Sep-12 15:59:49

lp we're pretty much sorted, but our wedding is v small and simple so not much to organise. 30 guests for pm wedding at registry office with afternoon tea. Decided not to have a big do as we can't afford it, and we don't like a huge fuss/palaver. Looking forward to it!! Hows your coming along?

bil were also havin nighttime comfort feeding issues here. N has been going to nursery for 3month now and has caught every germ there. Just getting over a heavy cold now but I've been co-sleeping and attached at the boob for a week now. Blimmin knackered!!

ipswichwitch Fri 21-Sep-12 18:05:32

bunt hope all is ok. Poor DS sad
Happy (belated) birthday to bband cups girls. 1 already!!

Outnumbered4to1 Fri 21-Sep-12 21:00:12

Hello everyone!

Happy birthday to the twins smile anyone else turned 1 yet? L is 11 months tomorrow. Walking started a few weeks back and he is just a bulldozer. Makes a beeline for anything he wants and watch out if you're in he way!

We are well. I am going back to work a week on Monday. Met new boss today and he seemed like a decent and knowledgeable sort so came back feeling positive. They are giving me a 3 month settling in period at part time, so full time in January. Pretty decent of them.

We still have broken nights despite many attempts at sleep training (though haven't done cc yet). DH is tackling it again tonight and over
The weekend.

Bunt - I hope DS is much better soon.

TallyBear Fri 21-Sep-12 21:03:26

I was going to ask about milk levels too. Seb is still on 3 7oz bottles a day. He doesn't alway finish them so probably has about 15-16oz a day. He does love his milk but we managed to reduce from 4 to 3 when he started at the childminders as he saw others eating and decided to eat more! I'm not sure how much more we could reduce at the moment. Can they have cows milk now?

Seb also picked up a bad cold at the c/m. He was really unhappy for a day or so and i took two days off work. Can't do that too many times so really hope he has a good immune system smile

ips sounds lovely, hope to see some pics....

MummyDuckAndDuckling Fri 21-Sep-12 21:28:05

tally they can have whole cows milk in food from 6 months and to drink from 1 year (S is 1 in one week) so I offered it yesterday to drink to see how she went. It will be great just to pour straight from fridge rather than the whole boil kettle etc. glad to read others saying about bed time bottle till 2. I couldn't imagine stopping that one yet. The others she couldn't care less about the others but loves her night milk! It's like the end of another era, no more formula sad!

I just popped home to collect a few things as we are stayin at my mind tonight and there was a letter to say her ultrasound is on Monday!! They said 6 weeks to start with so don't know if this is in error or what. I'll need to try phone and find out tomorrow but not sure who I'll get to speak to as its the weekend. There's no talk in the letter about having to fast her for the anesthetic. strawberry what did you have to do before W's? Really nervous now!!
ed I was at braehead today. There again tomorrow doing lots with the kids and there's cooking with Michelle McManus! We get all the top celebs in Glasgow wink

EdwardorEricCantDecide Sat 22-Sep-12 02:56:05

Haha we certainly do, I actually work with her younger sister. rubbish claim to fame

LittlePebble Sat 22-Sep-12 06:21:11

Ips we have 30 people coming to ours too grin must be the perfect number. We are having a party in November when we get back though and I'm finding that quite stressful as I hate parties about me.

Tally E has similar milk levels so I'm trying to drop afternoon bottle, but it's been reinstated for the last few days as with his cold he's not eating a lot.

outnumbered yay for walking smile. Hope DH manages to crack the sleep training. We did Jo Frost method a couple of months ago and it's made everything so much easier (I have a bit of my life back now!)

Scheh happy birthday for C (think he's next?) x

tally that sounds about the same amount of milk as W still has.

out nice to 'see' you smile

duck W had to fast for 4 hours I think before his ga maybe see if you can call them and find out. Good luck hope it goes alright x

Penelope1980 Sat 22-Sep-12 09:43:54

We're having a small party - just close family. I probably would have had a bigger one if the nearest Sat wasn't his actual birthday, but more than anything want a nice morning with DH and A with a cake and some family over in the afternoon. Am looking forward to it.

I have an entire week off work. SO HAPPY! Today was glorious weather here as well and am finally starting to feel like winter is over ...

Yay for walking babies! A still doesn't seem to see the need, although is standing unaided for longer periods.

BuntCadger Sat 22-Sep-12 11:18:29

outnumbered Happy 11 months! yay for L walking, Your boss sounds nice, and great youve got till January.

Re walking J will take jig about dancing with feet firmly rooted to spot, take one step and plop on her bottom, so not walking yet here smile

Ds2 is brighter today smile better night and fever come down. Thank goodness. Got open access to hospital over weekend but fingers xd it's not needed.

Re milk and food J is a little piggie. She has 5 b/feeds(occasional slips an extra one or drops one) 3 hearty meals a day, and she's been slipping in '2nd breakfast' too last couple of days.

Re birthday, was going to do naming day but with everything happening with ds2 and transition to infants, we've been disorganised. Don't really know what to do and considering just a small birthday tea with grandparents over. Birthday cake will have a fairy on(per ds2 instructions grin) and I've ordered her main present which I will link

Can't believe how fast this year has gone

BuntCadger Sat 22-Sep-12 11:20:09

Jessica birthday gift

MrsHende Sun 23-Sep-12 14:38:42

Glad to hear DS is a bit better bunt, I hope he's firmly on the mend now.

I wanted to get L a wheelybug for her birthday - I love the mouse one, but beginning to think that I should really try to save money and get her something a bit smaller this year as she won't have a clue!

Money is very tight, DH has been out of work for 6 months now sad. I think I'll have to take L out of nursery soon, we just can't afford to pay for her to be in nursery while he's at home just in case he gets something. Haven't broached a deadline with him though...mainly because I can't decide. Every week there is something which sounds hopeful, an interview or phone call, and every week we get our hopes up and every week he gets let down. All a bit soul destroying for him.

Having a lovely long weekend though, getting through a power of housework which will hopefully stops us drowning in laundry before the next holiday wink! Thank goodness I'm a teacher or I'd never clean the house!

BuntCadger Sun 23-Sep-12 19:47:11

MrsH sad sorry that dh still looking. It must be hard to keep positive. What is it he does? Feel bad for posting link now, I was just over excited. After 2 boys it's exciting to buy a proper dolly.

Ds2 dipped again and fever still there as is stomach pain. I'm taking back to dr tomorrow if still fever and pain.

Scheherezade Sun 23-Sep-12 20:32:53

This time last year I was thinking (and posting grin ) "my, these Braxton hicks are happening all the time, and really uncomfortable too!" Haha!!

C had a fun day out at Chester zoo, FAR too many presents. Seriously, we went a little overboard blush but we've saved a lot of money by getting stuff free/cheap from friends and relatives so it evens out...maybe...

I made him a triple layer banana cake, with white chocolate buttercream icing and decorated with strawberries and blueberries, it was YUM.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sun 23-Sep-12 21:12:42

mrsh sorry things are tough right now. Fingers crossed something comes up soon. It's soul destroying having interviews etc but then nothing coming from them. I love the wheelybugs, think its what I might get S for Xmas!
bunt dolly is very cute! Hope ds better soon
sch sounds like a lovely weekend!! How are you feeling on the eve of C 1st birthday? I'm becoming so emotional and S still has another week!! grin

My girly is now walking everywhere! She's really took off this weekend smile. Still can't get used to seeing her toddling around. The look on her face is brilliant. Pure concentration!
Still loaded with the cold and starting to sound very wheezy. Not sure if they will go ahead with the anesthetic tomorrow with the way she is. I'll phone them first thing and ask advice.

Hope everyone's had a lovely weekend smile

Scheherezade Sun 23-Sep-12 21:30:07

Oh, re: milk I'm getting a little confused. I've just dropped his afternoon bottle, and replaced it with natural yoghurt snack. So he gets 9oz morning (which he drinks about 6/7, the rest goes in his cereal), porridge/weetabix, lunch, yoghurt @3pm, dinner, 8-9oz bedtime.

However a friend of MILs baby is roughly same age (bit older, but prem) and has cereal, cup of cows milk, lunch, cup of cows milk, dinner, bottle.

Should I be giving cups of cows milk?!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sun 23-Sep-12 21:42:10

Our days kinda..

Up at 8am. She drinks a cup of cows milk while I make her breakfast
Then she has lunch around 12/12.30.
Cup of cows milk with a snack around 3ish.
7oz bottle of formula (just to use last of it up) at bedtime

bilblio Sun 23-Sep-12 23:01:46

I'm rubbish, fallen off already. I'll try a quick catchup, but I'm not sure who to.

Happy Birthday to B, E & A, and C (going through the alphabet.) I can't believe a year has passed so quickly.

We're going with minimal birthday presents. Money is very tight as I packed in one of my jobs, and then was told I'd been taken of the bank rota until I update all my training...not happy! Grandparents will spoil him though, and he's quite happy playing with DD's stuff, much to her annoyance at times. We're buying a few cars though, just so he has some typical boy things. His absolute favourite things to play with are: keyboard, mouse, phone, laptop, hoover, sweeping brush, washer & dryer. So I'm a bit stumped for ideas really... The washer is on its last legs. smile

DD still has bedtime milk, she's 5. Although more often than not now it's bedtime milkshake, and sometimes hot chocolate. smile
S has given up daytime feeds mostly. DH gave him a few bottles when I returned to work, but S wasn't impressed. He generally feeds now at 7pm, 11pm, 3am and 6am. I will give him a feed during the day if I'm home to get him to sleep, but not every day.

I chickened out of putting S in his own room. We had a terrible night and were just too tired to do it, and he's had 3 pretty good nights since then. He's got about 4 teeth coming through together, he has 7 already, but even his molar area looks sore. He's dribbling loads and he's had a really sore and itchy neck and chin for weeks. Daytime he's okay, but at night it really bothers him.
I don't think DH really wanted to give up his computer room just yet either, so we'll keep co-sleeping for a few more weeks.

No walking here unless holding on. This weekend he's got really keen to walk holding my hands though and he'll stand for a couple of seconds. He was walking round the park at the local carnival. Barefoot though.... I really should buy him some shoes!

Got a difficult week ahead I suspect. I've got a scan on my eye on Tuesday as I have a bulge apparently and they're not sure why. Also a few months ago DH finally admitted his depression was back, he's suffered for years, but DD was the best thing to happen to him. I hoped once I was back at work he'd pick himself up again, but he hasn't and last week he had a panic attack. It's been really affecting family life, so we has a serious chat and he's agreed to go to the GP, and I've got permission to take him and kick him up the bum. Normally I tread very softly, but I can't do it anymore, it's doing none of us any good. I'm dreading it just as much as he is.

Scheherezade Mon 24-Sep-12 08:25:03

Wow at S toddling!! C won't let us hold his hands to walk so just leaving him to learn himself.

Hope the gp helps Bilblio

Its not really sunk in yet, the first year has gone so fast, but his. I

Scheherezade Mon 24-Sep-12 08:25:48

Her stupid phone! His birth seems like forever ago.

Scheherezade Mon 24-Sep-12 08:26:31

Fgs I give up grr not her.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 24-Sep-12 09:05:01

Happy 1st birthday to C!!!

MrsHende Mon 24-Sep-12 10:04:09

Happy birthday C!

Engelsemama Mon 24-Sep-12 10:13:29

Morning all.

welcome back scheh , fleecy, lemmings, outnumbered and everyone else who's made their way back.

Just back from a fab weekend in the UK for my sister's hen do. left M at home with DH (and MIL had him on Friday). Was weird beign away from him, btu was also having so much fun that I didn't really miss him. Bliss to only have to think about yourself for a few days and not worry about packing changing bag, has he eaten etc. Did some serious shopping, dinner with friends, my sister's hen do (which was awesome - we learnt a dance routine in the morning to do at the wedding, had lunch and then went to a roller disco in London in the evening, all decked out in neon tutus) and then a roast dinner at my mum's before I drove back.

But back to reality - DH has managed not to empty a single bin/do any washing/change the beds or do yesterday's washing-up so am going to be soending today sorting the house out as well as unpacking!

I bought M a cute duffel/cord coat from M&S for his birthday and also a few books for Christmas (the jolly christmas postman! I know he's too young for it but I'll enjiy reading it on christmas eve).

Am getting bit stumped with shoes. Bought M some pram shoes, little slipper type things for him to wear indoors so he doesn't get cold with just socks, but he just kicks them off - even when sitting in his high chair) so have just tried on the little trainers that someone gave me and managed tog et those off too! Reckon I may have to go with some lace ups. He's tottering around everywhere, but now the weather has turned I can't let him walk outside unless he can keep a pair of shoes on!

Finally bought some dribble bibs when I was in mothercare - he looks like a bank robber, but at least hi T-shirt isn't soaked through.

Haven't proper;ly caught up with the rest of the thread, so will do that during the course of today.

Happy birthday to C!

bilblio the best thing that ever happened for DH was admitting he had a problem and accepting help. I went with DH as well to the GP to back him up and "take over" in telling the GP how he felt if he really couldn't. We had a chat beforehand about what he wanted to say to the GP, wrote it down so we didn't forget anything.

DH isn't better but he's getting better, and 100 x improved since he first went to the GP last November, finally having agreed that we couldn't just sort this out on our own.

Good luck with the scan and a big hug for you.

EdwardorEricCantDecide Mon 24-Sep-12 10:58:55

happy birthday to C xxx

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 24-Sep-12 12:16:46

Well I called the hospital to find out the script for a general anesthetic and she told me there is no way she would be put to sleep for an ultrasound hmm. It's not something they routinely do! Obv im very happy with that! Just confused as to why the first doctor we seen said she would be? So she's just having a wee nap right now then we will leave.

bilb hope all goes well for you tomorrow smile

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 24-Sep-12 12:17:49

engels glad you had a fan weekend! Not do good though that you've went back to housework sadangry

Engelsemama Mon 24-Sep-12 13:02:49

In DH's defence Duck the house wasn't in a worse state than I left it in (except the washing-up). grin

I have just given up housework for a few hours and am drinking cappuccino, eating treat size cadbury's (thank you Sainsbury's) and watching a cheesy rom-com while M has a nap.

BuntCadger Mon 24-Sep-12 14:57:20

duck what a relief that must be. Hope all goes well

MrsHende Mon 24-Sep-12 17:33:48

How did you get on duck?

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 24-Sep-12 17:46:38

All went fine today smile. They were confused when I got there as to why we were told about a general anesthetic.. I don't know. She lay on the bed brilliantly for the scan. Brought back all the memories of having them done while preg smile. Seen all her organs which was funny! Little heart beating away. She said all her organs looked to be in the correct place which is good, so now they will be sent to the doctor to look over and we will find out results when we go back in October. Just wondering what they will do about the little growth on her bottom now.. Trying not to think/worry about it to much though.

She's just still really loaded with the cold, I'd even say she's getting worse rather than better. Her cough now sounds like she smokes 50 a day hmm. Just hope it clears for her party on Sunday!!!

Scheherezade Mon 24-Sep-12 19:32:07

Glad to hear the scan went well, and well done S for laying still! It'd take 5 doctors to pin C down, nappy changes are a nightmare!

When you say cup, do you mean a beaker? So she has 2 beakers of cows milk a day plus milk on cereal? Or does she have toast etc for breakfast?

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 24-Sep-12 20:14:27

Haha, think she was quite happy watching the light projector they had on the ceiling!

Yeah I mean a beaker, but I'd say she only has about 1/2 a beaker full each time. So I give one with breakfast along with readybrek and milk and/or bit of toast, then I give her another beaker full with a snack at 3ish. It really just depends how shes feeling though as to how much she wants to drink smile

Has the birthday boy had a lovely day?!

Scheherezade Mon 24-Sep-12 20:20:43

Yes, thanks for all the good wishes smile Saturday he went on a miniature steam train with his paternal GD and SGM, then Sunday was the zoo with loads of family (6 adults and 6 kids!). Today we travelled home to see my dad and aunt, think its all been a bit much for him!

I don't know where I'm going to put all the stuff he's got, no room in house as it is!!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 24-Sep-12 20:22:53

Aww sounds fab! I had a clear out the other day in anticipation of all the new toys/clothes to come...!! confused

CheshireDing Mon 24-Sep-12 21:07:24

Pah! Hadn't even managed to get around to joining, let alone falling off thread! Sorry for missing Birthday's on their actually day < rubbish Cheshire emoticon >

Thank you Strawberry and Pebble for your kind words about how you feel leaving them at nursery/with others. It's only my second week at work and I am not sure how well it's going really at the moment, it all feels like such a lot and I only have to drive to work, DH is dog walking and taking and collecting P (then being late for work). I think I might have to look for something closer I spent 2 hours getting there this morning and 1hr40m coming home sad

Right off to read up and Birthday's and all the excitement to cheer myself up from being silly.

scheh happy birthday to C hope you had a fab day

bilb fx for your scan, hope DH gets the help he needs.

duck great that S didn't need ga and good that everything looked ok smile

eng sounds like you had a fab weekend, shame about the housework tho!

We have an operation date! W will be admitted on 6 Nov for two days of pre op tests before his op is done on 8 Nov. Not sure how I feel about it yet, on one hand it's nice to finally know when it's happening after its been a vague 'sometime in the future' for so long but on the other it makes it much more real!

chesh that's a long commute every day. I struggle sometimes to get everyone out the house on time and its only a 15 min drive to work. DH drops me off then takes W up to nursery then goes to work himself. I pick W up unless I'm on a late and we walk back to the car giving DH the extra 1/2 hour at work at the end of day rather than the start. I find by 5 to 5 I'm practically jiggling on the spot waiting to get out of there and get my boy I can't imagine having to do a long drive then.

Penelope1980 Tue 25-Sep-12 02:02:08

engels have you tried Bobux shoes? We have the same trouble as well and these are the only ones we managed to keep him in as they have elastic around the tops. They are a bit pricey new ($NZ30, so about 15 pounds) but the only ones we've managed to make work. I don't know if they have them in the Netherlands though ...


Penelope1980 Tue 25-Sep-12 02:04:41

In fact, in another plug for bobux, I just got two pairs second had at a local fair and they are so good they had clearly been worn by another baby before but still in pretty good condition. A wears the soft sole ones, which is still thick enough for most outdoors stuff.

(will stop writing now in case you all think I am on commission from this shoe brand or something)

CheshireDing Tue 25-Sep-12 20:59:59

Duck Glad everything went okay at the hospital. I guess if they were worried about S's little growth they would have been eager for it to be investigated rather than waiting until next month. Loving the recent pics of S, she looks so grown up now, how fast they have gone from scrunched up newborns sad

Have just had another look at the stats I never realised that beside and BB3's and Ips' twins and Baby Bea my little P is the smallest! Better not tell DH he already freaks out that she's little anyway. I don't know why he is so surprised, he constantly tells me when I am old I will be the size of Yoda (don't know if that's how you spell it).

Sounds like everyone is coughing and sneezing, P has had it for 2 weeks, had a temp of 39 and she too sounds like a smoker. Seems to be improving slightly now, we went to the walk-in centre on Sunday and GP said it's viral and unless her temp goes up again there is nothing to give her. She sounds very rattly too on her chest and lots of lovely snot !

Happy Birthday so far to Baby Cup Baby B's and Baby Scheh grin.

Hope the weather improves for Sunday Duck (not that it could really get much worse)

I love winter too Ed, I love all the festival type things and I ADORE Christmas. Am so excited as to how many years I have ahead of me to get P wound up in to a Father Christmas frenzy. She is going to her first bonfire in November as they do one at 6pm for the children. Have you got the coat for M?

MrsH hope nursery is going okay and there are less tears today (from you) grin <mn hug> At least you didn't cry when you read L's book about what she had eaten for the day like I did 'cos I'm a big weirdo

Bilb hope the eye scan went okay and DH your DH has got an appointment to see the GP now, fx

Glad you had a great time in the UK Engels, you must have the patience of a saint though to deal with work, M and DH/lack of housework too. Since I had a MASSIVE tantrum before I started work DH has definitely wised up to the housework situation (thank God!), the standards of house cleaning are nowhere near what they were before P came along though grin

Aww that made me smile Strawberry thinking of you jigging. I got home tonight and by the time P and I had picked her clothes for tomorrow, she had emptied my work bag, eaten dinner it was bedtime. So I reckon I have seen her for 90 mins today in total but am trying to think of my wage slip at the end of October. It certainly won't be amazing but after Mat Pay then nothing hopefully it might seem amazing (kidding myself).

I was confused about the whole milk thing and I read the other day that if they are having a varied diet and cereal, yoghurt, cheese etc etc they get enough milk. P has cereal and crumpet/teacake (so she has milk on the cereal) then bf at bedtime but other than that the only milk she has is in cooking (scrambled egg etc). She drinks water in the day. I hope no idea if that is right but it's what I read < shares bugger all knowledge with October Mummies>

Right sorry for epic waffle, am off now to do some work watch Bake Off

bilblio Tue 25-Sep-12 21:16:54

Hi all, please to report my scan went well, there's nothing in my eye that shouldn't be, no tumour, cyst etc. Still no proper explanation for the bulge, but the optician said the iris can adhere to the lense sometimes, what this means long term I've no idea, but no-one seems concerned.

Just thursday to get through now.

Bobux shoes, I'm sure I've seen them in TKMax. I think we're going shoe shopping this weekend. S has been doing lengths of the living room using his walker and he loves it. TKMax is near Clarks, so I think we'll do the usual get measured then shop around. I don't mind doing it with soft shoes for now. Once he starts walking I'll stump up for proper Clarks shoes.
I hate, and can't afford the expense, but when DD was 2.5 I bought her some pumps from tesco. We walked to the park and back one day, she loves walking and never complained, but at bathtime I took her socks off and found she'd rubbed deep blisters into both heels. I felt terrible! and it's only in the past year when I know she'd moan if she was in pain, that I've started buying cheaper shoes.

Off now to read about why the babies need operations & scans. Hope they all go well though.

Scheherezade Tue 25-Sep-12 21:20:04

That sounds good to me Chesh grin - it's so easy to get worked up, especially when you hear other people are doing something you're not!

It's just so stressful working out if I should give a bottle before cereal, or a cup of milk after... I'm giving him plenty of cheese, and yoghurt in the afternoon.

Penelope1980 Tue 25-Sep-12 22:10:05

Hello everyone! I am three days into a week off work and A is in creche today so not quite sure what to do - so many options! So, of course I am faffing on MN until I decide ... I am really enjoying being at home with A, although feel odd taking him to creche today but the creche insisted as wanted him to at least one day for continuity. Makes me wonder how I spent my time before he came along. More sleeping, I suppose.

Bilbio good your scan went well smile

Climbingpenguin Wed 26-Sep-12 10:22:24

bilb I only seem to realise DD's (also 2.5) shoes are far too small, rather than thinking oh she'll be due a new pair soon. Cue frantic dash to shops. glad scan went well and ducks. Hope you get answers soon.

sorry only skimmed read. I need to get shoes for DS that can handle crawling over wet grass. He's still ages from walking despite his few steps. It's odd, once DD was walking that was it. In half an hour she went from two steps to across the room and so on.

We have moved house, go on holiday on Friday (Scotland) and DS's sleep is bad again but think he is getting a cold.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 26-Sep-12 17:51:17

Anyone noticed babies appetite has suddenly changed? Could just be her cold, but dinner time is becoming hard work. She will eat breakfast and lunch fine, but not dinner...

EdwardorEricCantDecide Wed 26-Sep-12 21:09:10

cheshire no still no coat yet sad it's been on order for 2 weeks now so hopefully soon.
I'm so excited for Xmas I'm doing loads of crafty things including making my own advent calender. And this will be our first year with elf on the shelf grin and been taking deliveries all week for sequins, foam balls raffia and other arty stuff grin <big kid>

DH and I have now had our kid free weekend away and I did enjoy it, and his company, still not sure if ill ever get that spark back though.

Penelope1980 Wed 26-Sep-12 22:08:37

Mummy my Mum in all her child-rearing wisdom says that there is usually one or two meals young kids favour, and others that can be harder. A eats oodles for lunch, but never so much for dinner and he will eat a truck load for breakfast.

ed glad you enjoyed the weekend away!

I had a very sick baby yesterday and last night, the dr said it was an ear infection. He seems a bit better today (yesterday he just wanted to sleep on me) but still not 100%

CheshireDing Thu 27-Sep-12 12:34:15

Mummy P did not really eat at all with her cough and cold and at nursery she must STUFF her face because she hardly eats any evening meal on those days. Maybe S is a secret food hoarder at lunch grin I wouldn't worry too much I think at this age they basically just eat if they are hungry (unless they are actually ill). It makes sense what Pene's Mum says too, I have favourite foods so I guess why would babies not (cheesecake is my favourite!).

Hope A is feeling better today Pene sad

Ed that sounds FAB, I am soooo looking forward to doing crafty stuff when P is older.

Climbingpenguin Thu 27-Sep-12 13:04:21

DD does this and I think DS is starting to. If you think it makes sense, they need their calories to move about during the day, not the sleep. Historically I think, people used to consume most of their calories at the start of the day as well. Not sure if you've heard the phrase 'eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince and dinner like a pauper'? I guess with our work days we do it topsy turvy now. At this point is when fussiness can come in (between one and two) where they go from eating everything to just the same things. Breakfast and lunch tend to be the same things each day.

Saying that DS seems to spend most of the day feeding and he had more feeds than normal last night.

MrsHende Thu 27-Sep-12 18:15:11

On the subject of food, is it possible for our babies to overeat?!

Lizzie is ALWAYS hungry - even if she's just eaten she is desperate to have food when she sees someone else eating. She cries when her food is finished!

I veer between worrying that she's hungry and I'm giving her portions that are too small and that I'm giving in to her begging too much and might end up over feeding her!

I don't give her food to pacify her but relatives (MIL I'm looking at you...) seem to think I'm cruel for not giving her food when she's crying for ours, even though she's had a lovely two course dinner!

Scheherezade Thu 27-Sep-12 19:43:43

C eats a moderate amount for breakfast, lunch is usually hard work, but he does well at dinner.

I didn't give him his morning bottle today as he woke up late, but he still ate the same amount of breakfast, and not much lunch. I'm just scared to cut it out in case I can't get enough into him, milk especially. But I guess as long as I make sure breakfast is a cereal with milk, and not just toast or crumpets etc.

Just not really sure what to do about the 11am/3pm snack, what to give him, and whens best to offer the milk. I was giving him yoghurt at 3, but should I give that after lunch as a pudding, and then a beaker of milk at 3 instead?! My head is spinning!

TallyBear Thu 27-Sep-12 20:55:09

We've not started beakers of milk yet as Seb just waves it (sippy cup) about and gets water everywhere. Not brave enough to try milk in it yet.

Is anyone else finding it hard to get the LOs dressed and changed? It takes two of us at the moment as he just wants to roll over and crawl off; one to distract him with toys and hold him down if necessary and the other to put it all on! I've become an expert in putting a nappy on while he's crawling away and I now put his sleeping bag on when he's standing up.

Scheherezade Thu 27-Sep-12 21:09:19

I dress C standing in the cot smile

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 27-Sep-12 21:40:33

i'll write down what S ate today, tell me if you think its about average..

8.30/9am cup of milk and about 2 heaped teaspoons of rice krispies with milk, few of my shredded wheets and then a crust of toast she managed to nab that i left on my plate hmm
10.30am she had a few little rice cakes while i was getting showered/dressed
1pm small pancake and butter, cheese triangle, raisins
4pm cup of milk
6pm quite a big portion of pasta with red pesto and some gratted cheese on top. slice of pear.

im noticing she is starting to refuse fruit and veg (typical eh?). i still sometimes make fruit puree as i know she will eat it that way. she likes to hold and eat banana and raisins but thats about it. went through a phase of loving blueberries, but these are being rejected now aswell. i did mush them up and put through yogurt last night though!

mrsh what you say about L begging for food, S does this to. she stares you out if your eating something she doesnt have then starts to wimper, even if she has just ate! im putting it down to curiosity rather than greed!!

re nappy/getting dressed. i have to give her something to hold while i change her on the mat. ususally tub of sudocrem or even a wipe as she likes cleaning her face grin

TallyBear Thu 27-Sep-12 21:51:29

I've not thought of rice crispies, i wonder if seb would eat those. Seb likes to steal some of my toast if I'm having some at the weekend smile.

Climbingpenguin Thu 27-Sep-12 21:51:37

I'd err on the side of feeding them

DS today

7 porridge
8 slice of toast (yesterday also a whole bowl of his sisters cereal)
9 bf
10:30 biscuit and banana
12 bf and what crusts of DD's sandwich he steals/she gives him
2 lunch
4ish fruit snack
6 dinner
6:30 bf, then night feeds at 10, 2 and 6

he'll often have an extra snack

Penelope1980 Thu 27-Sep-12 21:51:44

I think A eats a bit more than that Mummy but at creche it's become a running joke how much he puts away. He eats a small bowl of porridge and a mandarin at breakfast, a slice of toast and peanut butter for lunch as well as some grapes and some cheese, rice cakes for snacks and fish fingers and beans for tea (the last day he was well anway). He's finally well again today - am so releived.

I've started changing A standing up as well, with his hands against a chair like I am about to arrest him. Works about 50% of the time, the other times I just need to chase and trap him in a corner. He moves so quickly now

EdwardorEricCantDecide Fri 28-Sep-12 00:10:20

Mhairi is another who is a PITA to dress/change and she's so fast! She can literally make it to the other side of the room on the time it takes me to pick up the clean nappy! shock

On average M will eat
A whole weetabix with cows milk @ 7.30
A 6oz bottle @ 9.30 although doesn't always get/finish it.
Lunch eg large soft boiled egg mashed with a little butter and a brioche roll followed by a petit filous yogurt @ 11.30 (need to have an early lunch to get C to nursery)
6-7oz bottle at 3pm sometimes with a couple of breadsticks
Dinner (half a jar of stage 3 purée or a bowlful of whatever we're eating @ about 5pm
8-9oz bottle @7pm
And 6oz bottle between 10pm and 12am.
She is another who would literally keep eating if you let her an you can't eat anything without sharing with her. As a result she has now tried lychees, raw onion confused (which she actually liked) and arribata sauce which had 2 chopped chillies in again she loved it! Her nappy did not!
Irony is that it's a daily battle to get Christopher to eat even half of what M eats and she regularly steals his leftovers shock

Engelsemama Fri 28-Sep-12 10:25:55

starwberry good to hear you have a date for Ws operation.

pen Thanks for the shoe advice. I have actually found a pair of baby slippers/leather things that my sister sent over from Oz, not the same brand you mentioned, but they just about still fit and they stay on and he's still managing to walk (inside). Am going to pop into town today (helmet check-up) and have a look at what I can find for outside. Still need to do some more online research though!

glad your scan was all clear bilb

have a good holiday climbing

ed I am also SO excited about christmas. one of my sister's friends is making M a personalized stocking, I bought myself him The Jolly Christmas postman for Christmas eve and am on the look out for christmas pyjamas - I saw some on amazon that are like an elf costume!

Our first christmas in our own home as a family. am also going to make stockings for myslef and DH (whihc means I get to by myself lots of lovely things! already got the chocloate money!) to make it a bit special, and even though we'll go to see the ILs in the morning, we'll be eating a trad British Christmas dinner at ours (with no fussy ILs allowed!). was even looking for christmas crackers in the supermarket last weekend (they don't sell them here) but they didn't have them out yet. rwckon I can pick some up in Oct/Nov when we're back in the UK for weddings.

AwkwardAnnie Fri 28-Sep-12 11:44:50

Sorry I've name changed. I didn't feel comfortable talking about DH with the nickname I use all over the net.... I'm the one who's just had a scan on her eye.

Everyone panicking about milk is worrying me now. S doesn't have any during the days when I'm in work. BLW means there's minimal sloppy food (until tea time then straight in the bath.)
On work days he'd normally have a feed at about 6am, then nothing but solid food and water till 7pm, another at 11pm, then ideally another at 3am... although at the moment it's 11pm-3am some nights. I'm exhausted, and hating teeth!
On the days I'm home he might have a feed at 11am to get him to sleep, but not always. We did try getting him to have a bottle but he started refusing it after a couple of weeks. He does like to drink the dregs of DD's milkshake if he gets chance though so I think he'll be fine having milk in a cup in a few weeks.

DH went to the Dr's WooHoo! I didn't tell him until half an hour before the appointment, but he agreed to go and went on his own. The GP said they normally have an assessment period, but as it's been going on for 18+ years and he's never seen a GP they're skipping the assessment step, he's got a couple of types of medication and he's got to go back in 2 weeks when they'll start doing full assessments and looking into therapies. The tablets are making him feel dreadful at the moment, but we were expecting it to be worse before it got better, and at least he's not going through a really bad patch at the moment. He does at least seem positive about taking the medication.

EdwardorEricCantDecide Fri 28-Sep-12 12:45:21

annie when my DH started his meds he was told by doc that they would make him worse initially but they didn't so i dont think it works that way for everyone FX.

CheshireDing Fri 28-Sep-12 13:02:32

I don't think they can eat too much at this age MrsH (although somebody feel free to correct me if I am wrong), unless of course they have that illness where you eat and eat and get massive - can't remember what it's called but I mean a proper medical illness (think it's quite rare too).

P is back to her human hoover so yesterday she had:-

8.30pm Breakfast - apricot wheats with whole milk (a level bowls worth, so it's prob about 20 wheats) hmm, crumpet with butter

10ish Snack - Toasted teacake, whole small pear

12.30 Lunch - Makerel and Philadelphia sandwich, mango, raisins

3pm Snack - Yoghurt, banana, potato cake, Fig, home made flapjack

6pm Dinner - Mushroom Rissotto, strawberries, tangerine

7pm-Midnight - Bf as and when she wakes

She has water with every meal and always around to help herself to.

2x poo's per day (if that's relevant) grin

We do give her food is she is asking whether we are home or out, if she doesn't want stuff she will just throw it on the floor. She stops once she is full.

Engelsemama Fri 28-Sep-12 18:37:24

Well done to your DH for going to GP annie (and well done to you for getting him there grin )

DH felt awful the week after he started his meds. He was exhausted and also really nauseous.

I bought a book about depression last weekend when I was in the UK called "Depressive illness: The curse of the strong" Have only just started it but it's really good. The first time I have ever bought a book after hearing a radio interview (on radio 2, author was talking to Jeremy Vine).

sending you a big hug.

Milk wise M only has one bottle of formula before bed, have just moved to his cup rather than bottle with teat. He has porridge for breakfast as well.

ipswichwitch Fri 28-Sep-12 22:42:14

N has gone from barely eating to stuffing his face with anything we give him. Today he had
B'fast: porridge
10am: fruit salad
Lunch: chicken dinner and jelly with pineapple
2pm: 3oz ebm plus half the emergency bottle of ready made aptamil nursery keep for his extra hungry days
3pm: soup and bread
Tea: tablespoon of baked beans with 3/4 slice of toast, 2yoghurts and a bit of my cheese scone

No wonder he's getting a pot belly!

annie, when DP started citalopram he was worse for about a week then I noticed a big improvement. He's off the meds now, but we've reached a place where he recognises himself when he's getting down again and we can talk things through better. The hardest thing is to go to a dr and admit you need help. Well done for him taking that step and I hope things get better

Scheherezade Fri 28-Sep-12 23:26:08

Fx the meds help Annie

I've had the best day with C we've ever had! He cried with dp whilst I was in the bath, and played with me all evening. I feel all loved up grin

Cheshire that is an impressive amount of food!!! C has 1/3-1/2 of that and he's between 75-91st percentile! But I know P is tiny so maybe she's catching up.

I've decided it still feels right to give c a morning bottle so I'm going with gut instinct. It's served me well with his food thus far.

Scheherezade Fri 28-Sep-12 23:31:41

Today was a bit slapdash as we were out of food so I had to make do, but C had

5oz formula
3 tbsps (not nearly enough) baby porridge with 3oz cows milk and 1/4 my almond croissant from Costa!
Handful raspberries
Small amount tomato/basil pasta (couldn't get him to have much before he started chucking it round in the swanky cafe we were in)
3 big dollops natural yoghurt with handful blueberries
The rest of his lunch plus some chicken and cheese for dinner
Homemade rice pudding and strawberries
7oz formula

Scheherezade Fri 28-Sep-12 23:32:45

He usually has a ton of oats for breakfast but I had to feed him put so could only take baby porridge with me

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 29-Sep-12 00:07:31

I guess food wise, S is about the same as the others. She's ate dinner no problem the past 2 nights, so was maybe just my lasagne she had the problem with hmmgrin

Next questions, naps! S is normally still on a morning and afternoon although they have shortened from an hr average each time to maybe 40 mins. She's still sleeping an average of 7.30-7 ish so I'm def not complaining! Today she was with my mum and never went down till after lunch at 12.20 then woke at 1.35pm. She done well rest of the day but by 6.30pm she was finished grin. Was sleeping by 7 which no doubt means an early start tomorrow. Anyone else on the longer nap after lunch? Remember in the nursery thus not really happening with the kids till roughly 15 months.

annie glad scan went well and that dh is getting the help needed

Scheherezade Sat 29-Sep-12 00:13:34

Cs naps a bit all over, but he's down to one roughly middayish. The trouble I'm having is that of he's not had one by lunchtime he's too tired for lunch, and sleeps till 2ish.

CheshireDing Sat 29-Sep-12 07:26:40

Climbing how is L's sleep overnight going, is it getting better with your DH going in?

I can't remember who initially called it "Nappy Wrestling" but yes it's definitely that in our house. I HATE doing evening bath time, that's when P really kicks off. Honestly you'd think she was shouting to the neighbours "they've got a knife" (very old comedy sketch).

I am glad DH wen to the Dr's Annie. Hopefully now you know something is being done even that in itself should help a bit.

We might venture to Toys R Us tomorrow so P can pick her Birthday present for Friday, we were thinking of getting her a tunnel < goes off to prepare oneself for such a hideous store >

(maybe I will feel different about it now I have a small person, we will see! grin

If I don't get chance I hope S has a lovely day tomorrow Duck

Penelope1980 Sat 29-Sep-12 08:47:14

A's naps are all over the show duck - we can't plan anything around them now. He tends to have one long one in the middle of the day or two shorter ones, but there seems to be no pattern at all!

W's naps vary depending on who he is with duck he naps fine for me (about 40mins- 1hr) morning and afternoon and same at nursery but refuses to nap for DH unless he in car! Think it's cos he sees daddy time as playtime!

W's learnt to drink through a straw! He loves it and has been having small cartons of fruit juice that way smile

TallyBear Sat 29-Sep-12 16:38:08

Seb's naps are all over the place too. He only tends to have one during the week at the childminders as he wants to keep up with the older kids and doesn't want to be left out so he carries on until he's knackered and then has a lovely long nap after lunch. If he's with us if we go out he has a nap in the car and then needs another one later. We just go with whatever, which is better than some of my friends who can't go out at certain points of the day as it's nap time

Also, we get reports from the childminder that he eats really well but I think it is mostly copying others as at home he's not great and has a habit of spitting food out if he's had enough. Nice.

Missed our local NCT nearly new sale last week as I was working overtime so we went to Bath this morning for theirs. My thinking was that the quality of items would be better in Bath... shock. It was a bit of a free-for-all but still got some barginous clothes. Also got Seb's In the Night Garden musical mat in the post from e-bay!

Cheshire Seb is OK after his bath (we just have to chase him round the bathroom drying him bit at a time! And he once poo'd on the bath mat!) it's the non-bath nights that are a nightmare.

Oh, sorry, bit of a me post there. Hope all OK grinblush

CheshireDing Sat 29-Sep-12 17:32:55

Musical Mat sounds cool Tally might have to have a look at that later.

Naps have always been a bit random here anyway grin

I need to ask peoples opinions please - I am wondering whether to get our friends, who have a late October baby, an activity table. P has the VTech one and loves it but their baby kind of just lies on the floor on his back and only has soft toys - the type they have when newborn. He doesn't seem to move much (hence why I was thinking a table might be interesting for him) and they have a huge lounge so space is not the issue.

My concerns are - the Parents will hate it (because of the current type of toys he has) and is it one of those toys that you would hate someone to buy for your baby? e.g. I would HATE someone to buy P a drum kit because it would drive my crazy or a doll (they give me the creeps).

Opinions appreciated please smile

CheshireDing Sat 29-Sep-12 17:34:06

Bunt how is DS2 now? Is he better?

< wonders is Duck is frantically decorating cake > grin

chesh I wouldn't mind if someone got W an activity table he'd love it! my concern with it would be where to put it but if they have the space I don't see the problem. I agree about Dolls too - very creepy!

TallyBear Sat 29-Sep-12 22:36:34

Cheshire are they close enough to you that you could ask them round and see if he likes P's table? Perhaps you could then subtly suggest getting him one. Although, if I were them I would be a bit concerned if my nearly one year old was still lying on the floor and not making any attempt to move about or sit up. Could it be that there is something wrong and they don't want it highlighted? Oo, now I feel awful for saying that. He's probably just taking his time!

Musical mat is cool. Think I got a bit of a bargain, only paid £4.44 (inc. post). One website said from 12 months but another from 18m but Seb seemed interested in it.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 29-Sep-12 23:12:34

Just a quick check in before I collapse in a heap grin

I'm bloody knackered. Who knew a 1st birthday would be this much hard work!!! Honestly thought I was as prepared as I could be, but that's enough for one night. Guests not coming till 1pm tomorrow so there will be time before hand to finish anything off. Pretty please with how we have decorated my parents house. They have a much bigger place than me so was perfect for party. Cakes are all decorated, nibbles and sandwiches all plated up, just the hot food to be made in the morning.
Really really happy with her cake. Thought I was setting myself up to fail trying to make a '1' but it worked and looks pretty good if I do say so myself

This time last year I was at my mums trying to get some sleep while the contractions were bearable. Don't think I did sleep much though as they were every 3 mins right from the word go!
I'm just about to write out her card before I head to bed. I'm so proud to say that I've managed this first year all on my own with her. She really is my everything now, can't imagine her not here and I'm secretly glad I don't have to share her with her dad grin
Thanks for all comments on naps. Seems about same as us really. I'm learning just to go by her which is much easier.

Hope everyone is well. I'll post a few pics in fb and ill catch up with you all soon


A slightly early 'happy birthday' to S duck hope you both have a fab time at her party x

Engelsemama Sun 30-Sep-12 09:53:09

Happy birthday S! Love the photo collage on fb. I've going to order Ms cake this week (am too lazy to make it myself) and start getting balloons and things tomorrow (have had a letter from power company saying they're working on our electric between 10 and 2 tomorrow so no power...eek! Thought I may as well head out then).

TallyBear Sun 30-Sep-12 14:40:03

Happy birthday S! thanks

Scheherezade Sun 30-Sep-12 14:50:04

Happy birthday S smile

MrsHende Sun 30-Sep-12 17:53:17

Hope you and S are having a lovely day duck!

Penelope1980 Sun 30-Sep-12 19:52:27

I blew up a balloon as a trial run last weekend to see how A would like it (he did but tried to bite it, am worried it will pop in his face!) Am back to work today after a week off. Sad. Had forgotten how much I liked being home!

Happy birthday S!

We took A to the zoo for the first time yesterday. He got a lot from it and enjoyed pointing at the animals, esp the Meerkats. Although, the one thing that excited him the most was a duck ...

TallyBear Sun 30-Sep-12 20:28:49

Pene he was obviously thinking of S!

We were at a 1st birthday party today and Seb burst a balloon, I went over thinking he was going to erupt but he was fine and just sat there looking at all the people waiting for him to start crying!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sun 30-Sep-12 23:47:43

What a day grin

Thank you for all birthday messages for S. she had a wonderful time and has only just went to bed 10 mins ago (11.30pm!!) hmm. She's been on the go, non stop since 7am! Had 2 short naps through the day but I think was just so excited by everything!

We had a lovely afternoon with family and friends. She got lots of lovely gifts smile

I'm off to bed as well. Start training for my new job tomorrow so my dad has S for few hours in the morning till my mum finishes work. Think he is worrying how to keep her entertained, then he remembers the living room is like a toy shop explosion! Haha, they will have a great time.

I'll be back to catch up properly tomorrow.

Can't believe my baby is now 1 shock

Engelsemama Mon 01-Oct-12 08:43:26

Glad to hear you had a great party duck Good luck with job training today.

You have inspired me to get off my arse and organise M's birthday properly. We're having 2 parties - one for family and one for friends as DH says he can't cope with everyone on the same day (fair enough), though obv family means DH's family as mine are far away across the sea sad Next time we'll see my family will be at my sister's wedding in a few weeks.

Ordered M a T-short yesterday with a birthday cake and 1 on it (and his name). Ordered up so hope it's not TOO big for him as he will be wearig it to both his birthday parties and on his birthday and nursery the day after his birthday (think some quick washing and drying will be required!). Out today to get balloons and bunting, and card to steal duck's photo collage idea. Going to order a cake as well, was thinking a photo one but DH says he finds the idea of cutting into M's face creepy! My mum's voice when I told her I was going to buy a cake - you'd think I was suggesting murder!

Actually heading out to avoid power cut. Only have another 30 mins before they switch the power off and my laptop will only last for about 20mins off the mains!

M has injections at 11.30 and then going to trundle into town but annoyingly in Holland a lot of shops don't open till 1pm on a Monday so will be wandering round the town centre, maybe will take M to look at the ducks and deer in the park.

Great zoo pic pen! We're going to take M on his birthday. last time he went he wasn't that interested in the animals (a fair few months ago now, think it was in May) but maybe now he's a bit older he'll be checking them out a bit more.

EdwardorEricCantDecide Mon 01-Oct-12 12:08:30

duck glad you and S had a great day. Her cake looked amazing, i'm v impressed and I am now inspired to attempt to bake M's cake with a shop bought spare in case of disaster

i was still waiting on baby shop calling to say M's coat was in and thought i'd check on ebay again and found the same one well last years but almost the same for £28.50 inc P&P grin i have won and am totally chuffed -and £30 richer--

CheshireDing Mon 01-Oct-12 20:13:59

Next Birthdays are Fleecy and Ips now then smile

Glad S had a good day, can't believe what time she went to bed, what'll she be like on Christmas Eve grin

My sponge cakes are in the freezer and I did a spare one for nursery for P to take on and found DH eating a bloody piece of it yesterday! God knows if the ones in the freezer will end up looking like a No1. I was going to do cut out butterflies, which will clearly not look anything as good as Ducks. I think I might go for the "more is more" option and randomly overload the cake with cut out teddies and butterflies and icing and colours and everything grin grin. We are just having a tea party on Saturday for 2 hours with Family - then I'm kicking them all out at 2pm.

Great news on the coat Ed, the baby shop lost their sale there!

I have order P a top from Olive&Moss which says "1" on it too Engels, I expect it to probably still fit her when she is 2.

Pene If A likes ducks, have you tried chickens, they are hilarious "apparently".

Good luck with the job Duck

Am going to order the activity table so thank you for your comments and will report back if they hate it.

Tally they live 90 minutes away so can't really test the table first. Will just take a chance.

Scheherezade Mon 01-Oct-12 21:52:00

Hello all, signing in and out quickly. Absolutely run off my feet! Today was rhymetime group at the library then swimming (or rather, running round town trying to find somewhere to buy a swimsuit as I'd lost mine, and forgetting to try sports shops! THEN making it to the swimming pool), then running a few errands round town. Back home to make a pie with leftover roast stuff, plus some custard for a plum pie I made yesterday. Tomorrow we have a coffee morning group, blood test for me, playdate with a new mum friend I've made at the nearby soft play. Wednesday is the local country fair that I'm walking to; 2 miles down a country lane and back again! Or hour and a half sing and story session I should probably go to as we're signed up for it at the children's centre. And another playdate in the afternoon. Thursday is rhymetime at the local library (today was the big library in town) and then our village baby group in the afternoon, Friday is toddler group in the nearby town and food shopping!

I can't believe there was ever a time when we would spend weeks barely venturing past the garden gate.

As I am useless at cake making, I opted for taste over decoration grin so he just had a round 3 tiered banana cake, sandwiched together with jam and buttercream, coated an inch thick in very chocolatey white chocolate buttercream, with strawberries and blueberries to decorate. I liked it, anyway grin . Very impressed with those of you that are doing parties, I was far too terrified of that, and just opted for a couple of days out with family/friends!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 01-Oct-12 23:18:18

cheshire--the butterfly's were from eBay-- I clearly made them myself grin
Yeah I made the sponge start of the week then put it into freezer till Saturday morning. I made a Madeira cake as it was more firm than just a sponge and so easier to cut into a '1'. Icing was 'ready to roll' and the butterfly's were the edible rice paper stuff. Think they were only a few ££ on eBay. I think they really finished it off smile
Job went well today. Think it's something I'm really going to enjoy, just hope I can get some good hours out of it. I'm only bank staff so on a zero hour contract so it's only as and when there is anything so fingers crossed. I really missed S today though sad but she had a great morning with papa and then the afternoon with gran out in the garden (between the rain showers!). We are staying at my parents this week as I was dreading the thought of having to get me and her up, dressed and out the door by 7.30am to have her dropped off. This way she can sleep till when she wants and nothing it's rushed --was also lovely to come home to my dinner made by my mum--grin
sch sounds a crazy, fun filled week!
ed yay for the jacket bargain!!
engels have fun with the party planning! I really enjoyed making all the decorations. Just feels a bit more personal than buying everything. I made number '1' bunting for all round the dining room we were mostly in. Not sure if I have a clear photo of it but ill look and post on fb. I might put it all round her bedroom as I don't want to throw it away.. Her birthday tshirt was sent over from Canada. I put it on her after we got up in the morning and she was toddling around on it. Was to cute smile

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 01-Oct-12 23:18:56

strike out fail at the start there blush

duck glad job went well

scheh well busy week!

DH and I are off to the Harry Potter studio tour tomorrow while W has a fun day with my parents. Quite excited about it now although I feel a bit guilty about leaving W on a day I'm not working.

EdwardorEricCantDecide Tue 02-Oct-12 13:18:34

Very sorry I need a non baby related rant! So feel free to skip next paragraph!
So things are definitely not any better with DH I told him this mornin that all problems wrongdoings aside in simply not happy and want to end it. He said he "can't afford to move out" I showed him a cheap flat nearby and told him what I would expect in maintainance, he replied "sounds great!" During the argument he blurts out how even his mum was suing how little I do in the house yesterday (she was here to watch kids while I was at work) the house was tidy and clean when she was here and always is! just not up to her ridiculous standards!

Then I go drop ds at nursery and nursery teacher pulls me aside and tells me "don't worry about C wetting himself its just a learning curve" I said yes I know I don't worry I know that he sometimes has bad days with it. She repled "it's just that his aunt (DHs aunt who also watches kids with mil) said that you get quite worked up about it" I am fucking furious that she could say something so stupid and untrue to a nursery teacher! I'm now worried they think I'm a terrible mother who screams/hits my kids when they have an accident which is just not true but who knows what she now thinks of me!
I am later on phone toSIL who I tell that we are going to separate and she begs me to go to counselling as she is just getting her life/business together now and was looking forward to spending more time with family!
I really just want to bloody scream. Who the fuck do they all think tey are?!?!?
And breathe!

Oh ed (((big hugs))) feel free to rant away. Things will get better now you know whats happening it just won't seem like it right now. I would be pissed at aunt too but I'm sure nursery don think badly of you at all they were just trying to look out for you a bit (nursery that is). Look after yourself x

Oh and just ignore your SIL (what is it with SILs anyway!?)

EdwardorEricCantDecide Tue 02-Oct-12 19:17:19

Thanks penguin I have now calmed down a bit, I think I do have a bit of a paranoia when it comes to how people perceive me as a mother part of it is that I know I can be lazy and that I could do better than I'm doing but I think part of it is definitely paranoia at least I hope so and not that people genuinely think I'm a useless lazy parent

sassy34264 Tue 02-Oct-12 19:29:28

hi ed

im still in italy and wasnt going to post until i got back- but read your post and just wanted to say be careful. it might just be me being cynical- but mil is saying your house isnt up to scratch and sil is telling out and out lies to nursey to make you look like a bad mum. im thinking they could be planning an offensive to try and get dp to get custody/or more rights or something over contact.

dont mean to alarm you- could just be me- i dont know them like you do.

i wouldnt be able to resist phoning sil up and saying the nursery told me what you said, but its ok, cos i told um your a drunk/druggie/have mental health issues (delete as appropriate) wink

back on fri- my birthday tomorrow, so having a barbecue- will catch up as soon as possible.

CheshireDing Tue 02-Oct-12 19:49:32

Ha ha how things have changed Scheh, glad you are never in now. You're only one step away from entering village cake baking competitions I think!

Now if you had posted that in AIBU Ed my response would have been to tell them to piss off grin. Also who the hell is MIL to say you could do more around the house?! Could her darling Son do more around the house to help you?!
I think Strawberry is probably right in terms of what nursery thought tbh. Can you say to nursery not to discuss things about C unless it's with you or DH? (don't know how realistic that is but just a thought).

Enjoy the Birthday bbq Sassy

Penelope1980 Tue 02-Oct-12 19:59:37

Rant to us all ed! You must! Especially if that helps you keep controlled and focussed in your interactions with your in-laws smile

Scheherezade Tue 02-Oct-12 20:49:23

Oh ed wish I knew what to say sad Sassy makes a good point though.

Cheshire well at the village fair (it's actually a ploughing match, plus other things going on....) they have "Ladies Classes" (baking) which I was tempted by, as it's only 25p to enter grin but didn't want to upset the WI dynamics...! Don't worry, it's not entirely sexist, they have a special class for men to enter chocolate brownies.... hmm

MrsHende Tue 02-Oct-12 21:34:39

Oh Ed sad.

You must rant here, as Pene said, especially if it helps you keep your head clear.

I hope Sassy is wrong but it's definitely worth keeping in mind (although, by the sounds of it, DH is only worried about affording living out of the house sad).

On a happier note, I'm glad you and S had a good day duck!

I made a list of potential invitees to L's party...83! I think I may have to reconsider, grandparents only might be more affordable, not to mention more likely to fit in our wee flat grin!

BuntCadger Tue 02-Oct-12 22:56:25

Fell off thread.

Sorry Ed to read what you are having to put up with. I do think Sassy may have sound advice there, although I'd very much hope it wasn't what was happening, it could be.

I'll try and catch up on thread, ds2 better now and settling well into school. J started in reusable nappies from today and I'm kicking myself for not trying them sooner (like with ds1 when a baby). Am considering baby number 4... Dh not said no and I don't know how I'd feel if he actually said yes.

EdwardorEricCantDecide Tue 02-Oct-12 23:35:56

Thanks everyone, sassy I've been wondering where you were hope your enjoying Italy.
It was aunt that said to nursery SIL was just concerned about family breaking up and she ad the rest of the family not seeing kids. Which wouldn't happen. Aunt tends to just open her mouth and let her belly rumble. I had considered what sassy said though an I'm wondering wether I should talk to teacher again tomorrow and just explain what I do, do when C wets himself to show that I'm not "getting worked up" or do you think that would be creating an issue where there possibly isn't one?
We have definitely done it now though we are defo splitting. SIL came over tonight and talked through with me then H came in later and she mediated a little although its now virtually impossible for us to talk without shouting at this point. And by the end of it SIL was agreeing that we should split.
We have agreed to live as flatmates for a short time till finances are sorted and H can find a flat.
On the off chance that they are going on the defensive to get kids what can I do to protect myself? I do doubt that this is the case as H works such long hours that he'd need childcare 12 hours a day 5 days a week.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 03-Oct-12 08:29:41

Oh ed. Sorry you are going through such a tough time sad. Not sure how to advise you... Maybe speak with someone at citizens advice? Ultimately, dh would have to take you to court to argue custody (I think). But I really don't know! Understand what your saying about C and the nursery, but from my view, I'd take what the mother says over anything an extended family member told me. I'd find it rather odd from her!!
Happy Birthday to baby fleecy smile

Good to hear from you sassy!

pebble, lookout when do you both get married..?

CheshireDing Wed 03-Oct-12 12:33:53

Is there not some privacy issue with nursery Ed and them discussing with a non-immediate member of C's family?

Don't know what to say other than Duck made a good suggestion about CAB, what about posting in the legal section here too?

Happy Birthday Baby Fleecy.

MrsH 83????????????!!!!!!!!!!! grin you better start baking now!

EdwardorEricCantDecide Wed 03-Oct-12 14:41:35

It was aunt who brought it up with teacher
Teacher: C wet himself a cpl of times today so his own spare clothes are wet and he's wearing nursery clothes now.
Aunt: oh no problem, I don't mind but I know his mum gets quite worked up about it.

I wouldn't actually mind except that I don't get worked up at all, C wets himself I usually say "you need to tell mummy when u need to go" I have on occasion said " I know you can do better C you've done it before, just remember to hold it until you tell me"
Neither of which I think counts a worked up, surely ignoring completely doesn't help with training? hmm

CheshireDing Wed 03-Oct-12 22:15:26

Ah okay, I understand now Ed, not that that helps you of course. Hope things are a bit better, if possible, this evening.

Can I ask those of you with older children who you bf I am wondering what to do about P's evening bf. She only has bf now between bedtime and Midnight (so about 6.30pm-Midnight), the rest of the time she has regular food and water, (cows milk on her cereal).

Just wondering how to move forward now really to cutting out the bf, do I just start putting some milk in her bottle and giving her that at 6.30pm? Can't see how she is going to be fooled by that really wink

Happy birthday to N (and A) ips I hope you have fun with N today and that today isn't too hard xx

LittlePebble Thu 04-Oct-12 07:08:38

Morning all, happy birthday to all the babies who's birthdays I've missed.

ipswitch happy birthday N hope today is a good one for you all x

Ed sorry about H I'm sure things will be tough while until everything gets sorted so offering lots of virtual hugs and support. FWIW I wouldn't say anything more to the nursery staff they will be able to see your relationship with C is fine x

Wow so many walkers - E stands brilliantly but just goes down into a crawl anytime he wants to move.

Bunt glad DS is better. Wedding is only two weeks today, we fly a week on Saturday and life is manic! Work x2 + wedding planning + baby = stressed pebble! But looking forward to Italy (is it hot Sassy?)

Had my hen do last weekend which was great (although one of my bridesmaids was a bit OTT hmm)

Haven't had any time to plan E's birthday I feel like a rubbish mummy. He's going to have his birthday in Italy 2 days before the wedding so we'll buy a cake out there.

Cheshire happy birthday to P for tomorrow x

<Waves at everyone else>

LittlePebble Thu 04-Oct-12 07:09:13

X post Strawberry! ( took so long to write mammoth post) how's W? X

Hi pebble W's fine thanks, finally seems to have shifted the last of the cold he had. W's not going to have a big birthday either I'm actually working the morning of it I couldn't afford the time off sad
Wow 2 weeks to wedding is going to go so fast! You ready?

LittlePebble Thu 04-Oct-12 07:48:29

No not really. Got last minute bits/ packing etc. and so much to do at work to prep for being away. But it's starting to get exciting now grin

Penelope1980 Thu 04-Oct-12 09:49:14

Hello! A is one the day after tomorrow and I am crazy excited, and keep thinking "this time last year ... " grin I even bought him a new outfit to wear blush Anyone else feeling a bit crazy with the 1st birthdays?

CheshireDing Thu 04-Oct-12 12:08:08

Happy Birthday Ips and N and A smile

Enjoy the wedding Pebble, just remember to try and stop a couple of times during the day to take it all in. Hope E has a good Birthday too and enjoys Italy.

1 tomorrow and still no teeth grin

Glad W is feeling better Strawberry

I do keep thinking "this time last year" Pene I was at work!

Penelope1980 Thu 04-Oct-12 20:33:36

This time last year I was probably on mn moaning about being 40 + 6

chesh happy birthday to P smile

Scheherezade Fri 05-Oct-12 11:19:07

Lots of happy thoughts to all the birthdays smile

Does anyone else ever get moments where you feel like a complete amateur, without a clue what you're doing?! I could cry at this whole cows milk fiasco. Sometimes C is up early, sometimes late. If he's up early he WANTS HIS BOTTLE and there's no point offering cereal instead. So early days he has a bottle of cows milk, then breakfast at 8ish. If he's up late (like today, he was up at 8.30) it becomes a mad rush to do bottle/breakfast and out in time for 9.30am groups. So I decided to just offer breakfast, with a beaker of cows milk at 11, as this is what a lot of other people do.

Tried beaker just now and it really upset him sad thought about putting it in a bottle but wouldn't that be a big step backwards, he's not had a morning bottle in a long time. Seems daft to drop a bottle, then reintroduce it months later.

Scheherezade Fri 05-Oct-12 12:03:40

He got to the point where he was too hungry to sleep, but too tired to eat sad so I've caved and given him a bottle.

CheshireDing Fri 05-Oct-12 12:24:10

Sorry I can't help with the milk/bottle thing Scheh I am still preping myself for us trying to give P milk at bedtime rather than boob!! Might try it over the next couple of weeks but think she is going to be VERY annoyed sad

P is 1 today smile smile smile (although theoretically not actually born until 21.21pm tonight.

and I forgot to defrost her birthday cake to cut it later.

Still no teeth either grin

TallyBear Fri 05-Oct-12 16:55:57

Just been to another 1 birthday party. Sitting in the drive with Seb snoring in the back and it's pouring with rain - why get wet and wake Seb up?!

Happy birthday to all those born a year today (on phone so can't check.

Oo he stirs... Nope still snoring! Is it wrong to leave him in here? Yes. I guess. I might wait a bit longer and then risk it. If nothing else I'm getting cold.

Ed ((hugs)).

Well done for all those making birthday cakes. Dm offered and Im not going to have time so thought why not!! I might ask if she can do a 1 cake like S. she might be able to do a dinosaur like on fb. She did amazing cakes when we were kids but about 25 years out of practice now.

Gonna risk it. Wish me luck....

Penelope1980 Fri 05-Oct-12 19:35:10

Happy birthday P!

A is one today (my time) as well - so excited! We're eating breakfast now watching him eat while I go on mn and I keep looking at him and thinking all manner of corny and emotional thoughts about how fab he is smile (Sorry about excess of emotion lol)

CheshireDing Fri 05-Oct-12 22:57:13

Aww was thinking that Pene that A and P "kind of" hove their Birthdays on the same day due to the time difference. Love his cake, it's amazing smile

I shouted DH to come down and look at P's cake as I had just finished it, then I realised it was the same time as she had been born being silly and gushy too

Tally the only chance I got to decorate P's cake was now, it's taken me 2 hours - doesn't look like it would take 2 hours though when you look at it so good idea to get your Mum to do it ! grin

Off now to make my bunting and blow up balloons. This time last year was having a brew and staring at a tiny scrunched up thing grin

LittlePebble Sat 06-Oct-12 04:54:27

Happy birthday A and P grin

Climbingpenguin Sat 06-Oct-12 06:57:01

<signs back in after holiday>

pene happy birthday to A hope you had a great day smile

Hi climbing smile

MrsHende Sat 06-Oct-12 09:03:09

Happy birthday A&P!! Happy days smile.

You're right Chesh, I'd have to start baking now for 83 guests grin. DH and I have decided we have to scale right back, it's now just a party for the grandparents! We just can't afford to feed all those people, much as we'd love to.

Now, what will I do with the 50 cupcake cases and napkins I bought back in August...?

Penelope1980 Sat 06-Oct-12 09:26:51

chesh yeah am would have to do the maths about when A was born UK time ... actually I know it was in the morning UK time on the 6th as I woke up my best friend by sending an "I'm in labour!" text message. Close, though! Love that they gave you a brew after the birth. I think the best I got was some toast.

I am just unwinding now after a massive but fabulous day - had a thing with close family, but underestimated how many 'close family' means. I loved it though, and A seemed pretty happy as well. Some grandparents and my aunt travelled a long way to be here and it meant the world to me.

What a fabulous year! Thanks for sharing it with me, ladies smile

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 06-Oct-12 11:15:42

my surplus napkins and cupcake cases are stored away for birthday number 2 blushgrin

ipswichwitch Sat 06-Oct-12 13:42:39

Happy belated birthday P and A smile
Been a manic couple of days. Had a ton of people turn up for Ns birthday but unfortunately he had a temp all night n had to go to drop in centre at 6am on his b'day sad they said its a virus (again!) so by mid afternoon we were all knackered. He got rather grumpy as my family were up and some had never met him so wanted cuddles and play but N didn't want to know.

Then yesterday we got married!!!! Was a lovely day, went really well and everyone had a great time. Cake was fab too grin
N was still a bit under the weather (no temp tho), cried through the ceremony but perked up at the afternoon tea when he pinched his grandmas scone and proceeded to eat it whole grin
Now opening wedding gifts and some birthday presents for N- he got so much we couldn't get them all opened on the day!

Engelsemama Sat 06-Oct-12 14:03:07

Huge congrats on your wedding ips !

pen sounds like you had a great day.

Welcome back climbing

Well, photos for collage ordered, just got M's birthday T-shirt through (it's MASSIVE but he can wear it until he's not 1 anymore! Will just have to roll up the sleeves on his birthday grin ) and just about to order cream birthday cake with rocket on it (looks much cooler than anything I could ever bake, and no one in Holland seems to make proper birthday cakes, so it's only my DM's disapproval I have to deal with down the phone/via Skype!). Still one week of work to go before half term and it can't go quickly enough. last week was really heavy at work, finished late every night so hit rush hour, in on my day off as well, and felt like I didn't see M at all.

So am taking it easy this weekend!

Congratulation ips thanks

MrsHende Sat 06-Oct-12 16:40:07

Congratulations ips and mr ips!

CheshireDing Sat 06-Oct-12 19:58:27

Ladies if I am bf approx 3 times between 7pm-Midnight should I just stop, or do I need to gradually decrease otherwise my boobs will be in shock grin ?

DH thinks maybe we could warm the cows milk in the bottle and P might be more accepting of it that way? We haven't started trying it yet though.

Congratulations Ips, hope N is feeling a bit better now sad

Enjoy relaxing Engels, have some nice coffee wine and cake.

Scheherezade Sat 06-Oct-12 20:21:42

3x 7-12?!

I'd decrease it to one, but make that one an express feed.

I microwave cows milk 30secs in bottle, shake and its fine.

MrsHende Sat 06-Oct-12 20:44:57

Don't just stop! Ouch!

If P will take a bottle then go for it, or you might want to go straight to a free flow cup - that's what my health visitor advised.

Mostly i'd say take your time and don't get stressed if it doesn't work straight away, she'll get there!

Good luck with the baby making! (As a warning though, I stopped bf more than a month ago and still no period here.)

Climbingpenguin Sat 06-Oct-12 21:06:33

congrats ips !!! Hope you have a absolutely wonderful day. It's coming up to winter, they'll have lurgy every other week if we're lucky.

DS over a week went from feeding continuously hourly - two hourly to four hourly with DH taking him. I'm sticking to four hourly at night for the time being. In about a month I will try and wean him off the middle feed. I'd just lengthen the time between feeds. Main reason for having a break was he dropped a day feed as well and as he doesn't have cows milk I didn't want to accidentally wean him and I want to make sure he has enough 'dairy' from just me.

I did six munro's while I was away <proud>

LittlePebble Sat 06-Oct-12 21:10:08

Congratulations ipswitch xxxx

Scheherezade Sat 06-Oct-12 22:42:06

Ooh I missed that!!!!!! Congrats IPs, what a lovely time for a wedding!!!

Penelope1980 Sat 06-Oct-12 22:47:52

ips that's so exciting! Congrats!

EdwardorEricCantDecide Sun 07-Oct-12 08:54:11

Ips congratulations on the wedding.
Happy birthday to all the babies I've missed.

Me and H are definitely splitting and he seems to ba accepting it this time, spent the past week trying to sort through finances and I've we've been looking at flats for him.
I actually now feel quite relieved and its the happiest I've felt for a loooong time! grin

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sun 07-Oct-12 09:03:02

Morning everyone smile

ips congratulations on your wedding!!!
baby ips, baby Cheshire and baby penelope happy 1st birthday!!

Not been around much, employment has taken over grin. Had my week of training last week which was great then I was working last night on the information line on the guy who died after flying into Glasgow airport with 'Congo fever'. In my 7 hrs there I only had 3 calls though. Think the initial worry has gone. It's been good though and there seems to be plenty of shifts available smile

Freezing here this morning. Phone is saying 1 degree confused

EdwardorEricCantDecide Sun 07-Oct-12 09:23:45

duck that's great news about the job. Glad your enjoying it smile

Climbingpenguin Sun 07-Oct-12 17:19:16

ed really glad things seem to be moving forward for you. I wish you the best of luck in the forthcoming weeks.

Penelope1980 Mon 08-Oct-12 09:27:40

ed am glad to hear you have a resolution and hope all goes well.

I have an annoying decision to make and don't know what to do! Was enrolled in a 90km bike ride in 7 weeks and had been traning, but yesterday got really really ill after a 50km ride (vomiting, seeing spots, the chills - dr said it was severe exhaustion or maybe dehydration although was eating and drinking) and have to decide whether to keep up with the training or not. I just can't decide. On one hand it would be a shame to give up, but on the other hand I really don't want to push it if I'm not up for it - had to take today off work as well. All the sports mad people I was doing it with say it'll be fine I just need better hydration/food/fancy sports supliments etc, but I am wondering if I'd be a fool to continue.

Sadly DH and I were supposed to go on a date that evening as well, instead I was in bed and DH was cleaning my vomit out of the car. sad

i hate making these sorts of decisions!

Engelsemama Mon 08-Oct-12 09:43:36

Thanks cheshire - there was a lot of cake this weekend but no wine as I appear to have become –even more of-- a lightweight since having M and I either have to throw a half empty bottle of wine away –sacrilege-- or guzzle the whole thing and put up with an almighty hangover.

We had same issue with cows milk when we tried it the other day Cheshire - M doesn’t want it cold!

Well done on the munro’s penguin --do I sound like I know what I’m talking about?!—

ed I’m glad that you’re feeling happier and able to move forward. Good luck with everything over the next few weeks. <hug>

Glad to hear work went well Duck

pen I wouldn’t make any decisions on whether to drop out just yet. 7 weeks is a long time. But dial back the training a bit, get your strength back. That way, you still have the option of keeping building up to it. If it gets closer the time and you’re still struggling or you really think you won’t make it, then you can drop out. Or, to put it more eloquently…..
Be bold and courageous. When you look back on your life, you'll regret the things you didn't do more than the ones you did.

H. Jackson Brown, Jr.

Have just put M to bed for a nap as he was struggling to stay awake. Trying to get through my long to do list. Am determined not to do anything to do with school at home (using free periods and after school instead) and it's working so far!

Climbingpenguin Mon 08-Oct-12 12:30:27

pen I agree, rest and back off a little and then see how it goes

I got quite dehydrated once doing exercise and it's surprising how much it can knock you. Doesn't take much sometimes.

munro = scottish mountain over 3000ft (~1000m). There's 284 of them and I'm up to number 38. It will be a lifetime pursuit.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 08-Oct-12 15:23:01

climbing wow @ the 38 munros I'm Scottish and have done none blush. Where were you?

pen that sounds tough but give yourself a rest then see how you are. 50k is a brilliant start!

ed had ment to say the other day, so glad things are starting to sort out now. Hope everything goes smoothly with h moving out. How are you feeling about it?

Happy Birthday to baby lookout smile. My birthday today as well, great day to be born wink

Just had a lovely lunch at my mums. We were going to go out for my fav meal, tapas, but decided its more hassle than its worth with S... So my dad will babysit at the end of the month and me and my mum will go out then, he just doesn't know it yet...!

Hope everyone is well smile

EdwardorEricCantDecide Mon 08-Oct-12 15:42:13

duck TBH i dont know how i feel about it confused most some days i feel really happy/relieved about it and sometimes i wonder wether or not i'm doing the right thing? deep down i know that ive been complaining about him and been really unhappy with him for years now and even now he shows absolutely no signs of getting less selfish!

i made the stupid mistake of telling some girls in my team at work who i mistook to be friends albeit not "close" friends and ive been made to feel that im committing a mortal sin i've had a lot of shock faces and even been told "well i would always fight for my marriage" and been asked "why did you have another baby" it was after having a lot of these types of comments i started doubting myself. these also tend to be from "older women" who perhaps have a different attitude to marriage/relationships than me. and also as i work in a typically low paid "unskilled" job most of the women work very little hours and appear to have very "1950s" type relationships. i have regulalry heard them say about how they sit in seperate rooms to their DH/P as they dont like the same things etc

i am also now thinking that maybe H is right in that my attitude has changed since i found MN although i dont think this is a bad thing as i now know that life doesnt have to be shit!

think i'm going to start a thread in relationships tonight to keep me strong smile

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 08-Oct-12 16:06:10

You are extremely strong for even taking this first step! You are still young, why should you stay in a marriage that makes you unhappy. You and the kids deserve so much better. It's not to say though that this is the definite end. If you decide that after being apart that its not what you want, there is nothing stopping you both giving things another go. Maybe a period of separation may make h see just what he is loosing. You, ultimately have the final say

Happy birthday to E lookout and to you to duck

pen hope you feel better soon x

ed in my opinion it would be worse for you (and your dc) to stay In a relationship when you are so unhappy. My nan did this with my grandad, nothing really wrong ie abuse but he was damaged by being a pow and she was unhappy for years and years but stayed and it made her very bitter.

W was covered in glitter when I got him from nursery today! They had been playing with glitter paint and he'd got it everywhere, there'd cleaned him up but he still had it in his eyebrow and ears, they took some fab pictures of him slapping his hands in it with a big cheesy grin on his face grin

EdwardorEricCantDecide Mon 08-Oct-12 20:48:36

Aargh! The fucking prick is now refusing to leave all over again!
Says he won't lose his kids he's worked hard for the house etc etc and he's not losing it! Wtf do I do? He's now forcing me to uproot the kids change C's nursery and put in for a council house. Selfish Arsehole!

MrsHende Mon 08-Oct-12 21:02:00

Oh Ed, what a nightmare sad.

You have to stay strong, the children are young enough that being with you matters more than where they are living. You never know, you might be able to keep C at the same nursery, even if just to help ease the transition. Don't panic, keep calm and firm, stay strong and rant here.

A thread in relationships might be a good idea, the ladies there might have more idea of your rights regarding getting him to leave instead of you.

So sorry this is so tough, hope you have RL support, x

CheshireDing Mon 08-Oct-12 21:18:08

Ed I have nothing to add as you have already received very sensible words from the ladies on here. I actually thought he would go because it mostly sounded like he wanted to be out of the family home anyway, so I am surprised.

Pene no wonder you puked, I would at the thought of 50km, I think still train as if you are going to do it but don't beat yourself up if the time comes and you don't want to/feel ready. It's a bloody big goal to work towards though.

What's a munro Climbing?

Happy Birthday Baby Lookout, E is a mini you grin

Can anyone recommend a sling for Poppy? We have a Storchenweigher - basically a wrap sling. It was fab when she was tiny but now she wants to face outwards and the fabric of the sling digs in my shoulders and back a bit because she is so much heavier now and I am a short temporarily whilst bf slim thing. I think I need one with padded shoulder straps that she can face away from me in which is quick to clip on.

CheshireDing Mon 08-Oct-12 21:23:18

Ed you are totally right about the types of women in that kind of environment. My Mum came back from living in Dubai years ago and has always worked for herself so when she came back here she just needed some money coming in at first. She went to work at Barclays in their call centre.

She said there was a group of women who never really talked to her and were always trying to put her down. I did say it's typical older women office environment but then I met them at their Christmas do. They were drunk and didn't even say hello to my Mum.

I concluded they were just jealous because she had done things with her life and they were sad old bints grin


Oh and we have a tooth! It's only taken 12 months and 3 days but I can see the edge of it.

EdwardorEricCantDecide Tue 09-Oct-12 09:05:10

He has now said that he knows the marriage is over but he thinks we should live together as "friends/parents" until our debt is cleared but still seperate finances and ill still claim TC as a LP and work to clearing my existing debts.
I'm tempted to do this as I know I'd be debt free in less than half the time. putting me in a stronger position to find a nice place of my own and for divorce

Penelope1980 Tue 09-Oct-12 09:11:58

Hmmmm whatever you think's best, but having lived with an ex after breaking up before, i can say that it does slow down the moving on period and can easily turn into a big giant mess. But, up to you of course.

Thanks everyone else for the biking advice! All I know is I never want to feel that ill again!

Chesh yay a tooth!

Climbingpenguin Tue 09-Oct-12 09:22:31

Ed the question is would he be true to his word. He has form for not wanting to let you end it.


EdwardorEricCantDecide Tue 09-Oct-12 09:34:04

Who knows, my heads up my arse ATM I'm tempted to just get a flat myself and deal with the fallout financially, the trouble with that is that I know he can't afford the house and I can't afford half the mortgage plus rent on a flat for me and the kids so we would inevitably lose the house dragging both our credit ratings through the shit.
I know it would slow down the moving on process particularly for him as I've already moved on in my head and as soon as he comes home at night and kids are in bed I've been going out most nights anyway and feeling much happier for it

Climbingpenguin Tue 09-Oct-12 12:47:01

What about an agreement where you review it every month and if one person isn't happy with the arrangement then you go your separate ways? Have you started a thread in relationships yet? I really think you should.

EdwardorEricCantDecide Tue 09-Oct-12 12:53:57

Yes I started one last night after all this happened but because of recent developments i didn't start the thread I was going to originally.
I really don't know what to do or where to go. It's quite obvious that his change of heart has come since he told his family yesterday so now I don't trust any of them!
SIL had been texting today to say that it's not all Hs fault and the reason he turned to drink/smoking is because I took control of DC when C was born and I've been pushing him away since. That makes me doubt myself and think maybe I should do counselling then OTOH I think I shouldn't have to take responsibility for his decisions.
I don't think I've ever felt so lost or confused in all my life! sad

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 09-Oct-12 13:35:28

ed sounds to me like his family are just trying to stir things and maybe pushing him into making things more difficult for you. Really, if you have asked him to leave etc he should be respecting that. I don't think living together while being 'apart' is a great idea.. Ultimately it will just make things 100 x worse in the long run. Have you got your name on list for a temp council house? Or could you even rent a flat out and claim help through housing benefit? Maybe worth speaking with CAB, they will know the ins and outs with that.

Climbingpenguin Tue 09-Oct-12 13:47:49

shock that is awful of them. I still don't feel he will let you out of the relationship if he stays though, however I appreciate the alternatives are also a bit scary if you have force a separation. So tricky for you, but honestly not your fault. I think some counselling for yourself is a great idea but the relationship is dead, just a question of how long will you be unhappy for (IMnotqualifiedO).

Climbingpenguin Tue 09-Oct-12 13:55:08

just had a read of your other thread

wanted to say that my mum stayed with a husband for years (Was the younger siblings father) because she thought it was the best. In reality we (my siblings) viewed our family as a single parent situation and were just waiting for the split up which happened 8 years too late. They (well at least C) will know and even uprooting them (we've just moved ourselves and didn't feel bad for uprooting hem, DD has been having a great time and DS hasn't noticed) will be worth it and makes things better.

CheshireDing Tue 09-Oct-12 20:11:54

ok, my question of the day is how are you ladies getting the babies to go to sleep now? Are they all still either bottle/cup of bf?

More recently it's taking an hour+ to get P to initially go to sleep at bedtime, I know her teeth are hurting so that is distracting for her but if if she was 18 months (for example) what would/did you do then? Do you put them in their cot with some milk? Do they not just kick off? She is not really hungry so I am wondering how to get her to fall asleep without the feeding confused. Am I deluding myself grin

Ed could you change the mortgage to interest only and rent the house out? Rents are more than mortgages at the moment.

CheshireDing Tue 09-Oct-12 20:13:07

Climbing you climbed SIX mountains?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Penelope1980 Tue 09-Oct-12 20:13:18

And it is NOT your fault he turned to drink! Tell SIL to take off her rose-tinted spectacles about her brother.

climbing W has a bedtime routine that goes a bit like this - Bath (every other night), pyjamers put on in his room, read story, last milk drink offered (bottle), put in bed and popped/zipped into sleeping bag, give dummy, say night night and turn off light, leave room. Sometimes he'll sleep straight off, sometimes he'll move a bit, chatter etc but we leave him unless he becomes upset, if that happens we go back in offer bottle again and replace dummy if he's dropped it and that's usually enough to settle him unless he's ill when it can take a bit more. ( W has always been a fairly good sleeper tho so I don't know how much is what we do and how much is him)

chesh yay tooth grin

ed I can't really give any advice but stick with what you want to happen (and tell his family to but out!)

EdwardorEricCantDecide Tue 09-Oct-12 20:49:12

Mhairi has bath most nights then pjs on then she hears a story well C gets a story while M plays on floor with toys then we go into her room where her bear plays lullabies while I give her a bottle, she usually gets a bit dozy by the end of the bottle but is still "just" awake then I put her down and leave and she goes to sleep.

I've tried her with cows milk a cpl of times in her cup and she doesn't seem interested confused

EdwardorEricCantDecide Tue 09-Oct-12 20:51:28

I asked about changing the mortgage to interest only before I finished on may leave and the bank refused unless a suitable payment vehicle was in place (which we don't have) plus it would really anger and annoy me to pay an inflated rent to someone else when I have a perfectly good house of my own that is cheaper and is already "home" iyswim.

LittlePebble Wed 10-Oct-12 22:29:12

ed sorry things are tough with H. I think he's calling your bluff as you've given in so many times before. If you stick to your guns and start looking for a place for you and the children to live (but realistically find somewhere that he could also afford) then say you're moving out with children and leaving him paying x on mortgage (which he can't afford) play up the kids moving etc. and the stress and worry. Then hopefully he'll realise he should leave you there and move out as you're going to be living separately whatever he does. (Sorry long winded and a bit garbled hope you see what I mean?) xx

Cheshire yay teeth! Loved the cake on fb

Climbing as always in awe of your exercise (mountains!) shock

Happy birthday to all those I've missed xx

CheshireDing Thu 11-Oct-12 19:46:05

Pah! Strawberry and Ed P's bedtime is go on the potty, read, top and tail bath whilst kicking off/trying to remove things from the wall/arching her back/telling the neighbours she is being attacked etc, pi's on, general distraught hysterical-ness, bf, sleep < I drink wine > I hate doing bedtime, she is so calm in the mornings but since I went to work DH does the mornings now sad Why are your bedtimes so calm sounding grin

I did try and alternate between warmed cows milk and bf tonight and she did have 2oz's in her cup (and thought it was hilarious) but still mostly had bf. I will try again tomorrow.

Sighs < can only aim for a nice sounding bedtime as other babies have >

Ed I meant rent somewhere smaller/cheaper though and then rent your family home out. What about a guarantor so the lender lets you change to interest only? Although Pebbles idea is good.

TallyBear Thu 11-Oct-12 20:45:22

Ed I don't have any advice but can do <<hugs>> hang in there. And have a wine.

Cheshire You're not alone. Seb is sometimes calm and sometimes not at bedtime. Often we get him dried/changed in stages, with him playing and crawling about in between which helps. We always have noisy toys around now to distract him. It works for a while... grin. Could she be overtired by then? Have you tried bringing bedtime forward?

Seb's been back in our room for a few nights. He was sick all over the place at 4am and 2:30am on Sun and Mon night. We got through two lots of sheets and three sleeping bags and he ended up in a 0.5 tog with blankets on top as it was all we had left! We brought him back to our room to keep an eye on him as one night we put him back down and he was sick again lying down and was chocking on it. 'Twas slightly scary. He's been off his food since then as well, although seems to be a bit better today. Proper sick is nasty!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 11-Oct-12 20:51:37

Quiet here!!

Not much happening with us.. Took S to be weighed on Wednesday so I could mark in her baby book her weight and height at one year old. She is 23lbs 4oz and 73cm tall smile. HV was very impressed with her cloth nappies!! Said she is the only baby she has seen wearing them grin. Went out today and bought her her first proper walking shoes. Totally grudge the prices in Clarks so went to brantano and got her lovely ones there for £16. She got lots of money from her great gran for her birthday so I was told by her to use that. Want to get her some boots next month so the shoes will do for now. She's a tiny 3 1/2. Awww

Right, mummy and baby play date is in my house tomorrow so I've got cleaning to do.

Hope all goes well with your wedding and E's birthday littlepebble. Have a wonderful time. Can't wait to see a photo of you all when your home from Italy thanks

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 11-Oct-12 20:52:43

Poor baby S tally sad. You must have got such a fright!!

Penelope1980 Fri 12-Oct-12 21:43:15

<looks around and wonders if everyone has gone on holiday>

<looks at rain outside and feels jealous if that is the case>

MummyDuckAndDuckling Fri 12-Oct-12 21:44:03

I'm here and not at all drunk grin

Engelsemama Sat 13-Oct-12 11:41:49

Sorry to post and run but have a quick question...

Have just bought M's first pair of proper shoes (and nearly fainted at the price....60 euros for a pair of Clark's shoes shock Everyone always told me that kdis shoes in NL were really expensive, but I didn't quite realise how expensive till now. Same pair would be 20 euros cheaper in the UK. Will be stocking up in the UK in the future). A colleague has also given me a bag of old shoes/snowboots/wellies from her youngest and was planning on using them for M as well (need to check the sizes), especially as extra pair to keeo at nursery and get covered in mud . MIL has just sternly told me that I should never give M 2nd hand shoes to wear as it's very very bad for his feet.

What do you guys think?

Engelsemama Sat 13-Oct-12 11:43:03

I'm on holiday but not on holiday iyswim pen grin but don't worry, it's raining here too!

Started my half term yesterday, just picked up M's cake for his bday party tomorrow.

Engelsemama Sat 13-Oct-12 11:47:16

Oh and Duck got M's feet measured yesterday (at 2 different shoe shops just to be sure) and he's 22 which is a uk 5 and a half!

ed Sorry things are so stressful for you right now. My only advice would be to stick to your guns re: separation/divorce. You're not happy anymore with DH. If he won't leave then get out of there. Even though in the short term things may be shit - in the long term you're giving yourself a chance to be happy.

Going to put M up for his nap now and then tidy my house to IL Dutch standards smile

have a good weekend everyone.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 13-Oct-12 13:34:46

engels S first little per walker shoes were 2nd hand from a friend who's girl had only worn them for a few months. They were in perfect condition so I thought why not. I don't know about them being bad for there feet but I wasn't going to pass up the chance of them. I think if you go by your own judgment, If its just a pair that are going to be used in nursery and most likely end up muddy I don't think it's a bad idea. I plan to keep a hold of the shoes S grows out of if they are still in good condition. It would break my heart just to throw away shoes that still have plenty wear in them that I thought the next sibling could wear or a friend could make use of smile

Climbingpenguin Sat 13-Oct-12 14:14:16

DD has had loads of second hand ones. When we in CA, they didn't even measure feet and recommended against. Said to just try them on and see. tbh even with brand new measured ones, most people don't realise they've outgrown until they have really outgrown them so they've been badly fitting for a while.

I think the school of thought is the child can't mould the shoes themselves but then what about harder shows like wellies? I wouldn't go for a battered pair but if they look in good nic then I would/have done.

I would have though good second hand shoes would be fine like everything else at this age they must get worn for such a short space of time before they outgrow them.

tally how's S now?

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 13-Oct-12 16:53:34

Just had to take S up to hospital. Poor little girl woke up from her nap earlier and was covered head to toe in a rash! All over her face and body. Was huge big spots though, almost like blisters so it threw me as to what it could be. NHS advised straight to see doctor. Gave her piriton then headed up. She suspected just an allergy to something she's ate, but I'm clueless as to what. Only thing she's had today different from normal was a few sips of fruit juice, but she's had orange before so who knows! It was going down as we got there but she gave us some cream to apply anyway. Got such a fright!! Have been meaning to buy a bottle of piriton for a while to have 'just incase'. Cue mad dash by papa to asda to buy some for her! All fine now though, we are back home and she's snuggled up having a sleep on me smile

Engelsemama Sat 13-Oct-12 16:57:05

Exactly what I thought ladies. Different if they're being worn all day everyday once they're in school, but M wears slipper socks at home so his shoes are only for 2 days a week nursery and when we go outside.

Think I was more annoyed at the way she put it. Just had a discussion with DH about how stern sounding Dutch is - MIL basically said "You must not....." and also called me "girl" which I find incredibly patronising, but seems to be something older people here say when speaking to the younger generation and maybe I should be grateful that at the age of 31 someone still thinks of me as a girl. The Dutch language is not very diplomatic and neither are the Dutch

Engelsemama Sat 13-Oct-12 16:58:43

x-post Duck Amazing how quickly these things can come on. Hope she's better soon. x

CheshireDing Sat 13-Oct-12 17:30:01

Aww poor S, glad she seems to be feeling okay again now, fx. Sometimes P eats stuff that makes her face a bit blotchy but within 30 minutes it's back to normal.

We bought P some shoes from Next Engels for £6. There are not pram shoes but not full on hard school-type-shoes iykwim. We just put a few different sizes against the sole of her feet - it was all very technical grin.

They are similar to these - but Poppy's are less girly (think they might be boys shoes actually!)


Tally I hope S is feeling better

Happy Birthday to Baby Bilb and Baby Engels in advance.

Actually what date is Baby Climbing, he seems to have dropped off the list smile

Climbingpenguin Sat 13-Oct-12 21:11:40

he was on thursday but party tomorrow

yeah somehow he didn't make the list, nor a edited version.

DS has joined the poorly club, hope you are over your shock duck

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 13-Oct-12 22:07:22

climbing it was my fault with the list. No idea how I managed to miss him out. Apologies and happy belated birthday to L smile

Penelope1980 Sat 13-Oct-12 22:39:00

engels all of A's shoes are second hand! As I got them from a fair, they may even be third had. But, they are great. And, to be fair, I also live in a country where flip flops can be considered formal attire in some situations.

Poor S!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sun 14-Oct-12 09:09:21

Just got up and she's covered in rash again sad. Piriton helping so not to go back to hospital unless it comes back again in next few hrs confused

Poor S duck hope she feels better and you get to the bottom of it soon. Have you changed washing powders or anything like that recently?

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sun 14-Oct-12 09:37:21

Thanks sp. It's really odd, nothing has changed and she ate nothing new recently. Said possible reaction from mmr that age had a week past on Thursday there, but she thinks it would have shown up before now. The piriton is working thankfully. Just need to keep a close eye on her.

Hope everyone is well smile

MrsHende Mon 15-Oct-12 11:31:21

How's S today? Hope the rash didn't reappear.

We're off to Aviemore tomorrow for a few days holiday, today we need to get L a snowsuit!

sassy34264 Mon 15-Oct-12 12:03:32

Hi everyone.

Hope you and the babies are all well? Sorry if you are not. Poor s mummyduck hope it doesnt happen again.

I have read bits and pieces of the thread (didn't realise we had internet until last week in italt doh) but not all of it.

will endeavour to keep up once again.

Not loads happening here really. Only that Eva has croup, and the twins started nursery for 2 mornings a week, last week.

Sorry to all the birthdays i've missed, hope they all had fun. smile

MummyDuckAndDuckling Mon 15-Oct-12 22:07:12

Happy Birthday to baby bilblio (for yesterday) and baby Engels for today smile

Engelsemama Tue 16-Oct-12 08:00:15

Thanks Duck. Had a great party Sunday and day out yesterday at the zoo (even though it was heaving with half term visitors). Will BBL yo catch up, right now M is at nursery and I am ready to start my school work while he's not here.


Aaaaarghh DH just had a call from Oxford and W's op is being put back to January because he currently has a virus and thy wont operate within 6 weeks of one unless its an emergency. Don't really know what to do with myself right now, I was all prepared for it and now we're back to not even having a set date sad

Engelsemama Tue 16-Oct-12 11:08:30

Oh no strawb - how infuriating. The only comfort is that they are concerned enough about W to put it off rather than risk operating now so at least they're taking his health seriously, but I understand why you're so upset. You've been mentally preparing yourself for months, and now you have to go through it all again sad

Sending you a big hug from Holland.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 16-Oct-12 11:30:16

Oh no strawberry sad

CheshireDing Tue 16-Oct-12 12:13:57

Aww Strawberry sorry to hear that. I think (much as it is probably impossible) you should try and not think about it for now. You don't want to be worrying over it for nearly 3 months and as Engels said at least they are not classing it as an emergency though.

I have had 3 hours sleep on the floor of the nursery, feeling quite perky all things considered. P was screaming from 1am-3am and then eventually fell asleep next to me on the rug whilst I was in my dressing gown. Had to get up at 6am and drive to work, lovely! smile

Climbingpenguin Tue 16-Oct-12 12:56:28

strawberry that must be hard, as it means with the inevitable winter viral season, you have no idea.

chesire just remind yourself being at work is easier than dealing with a baby, even if it does suck.

DS actually slept 6/7 hours the past two nights, however I caught DD's lurgy and have had awful nights so have not yet to feel the benefit. Plus I know it means it will stop again just as quickly. Still hopefully we have turned a corner and perhaps we will get once or twice a week <hopeful>

DS's party went well even though most of the children cancelled as they were ill. ILs were manageable and I drugged DD so she was OK for the party itself. Still can't believe he's one, but he seems to act more like it now. I spend half of playgroup making sure he doesn't fall off what he climbs. He's still not walking but will climb anything.

Happy birthday to E pebble and happy belated birthday to M eng
Glad the party went well climbing

Thank you for the wise and kind words ladies smile I know they are just doing what they think best but I've swung between wanting to curl up and cry or have a screaming argument with someone since I found out. I just feel so powerless and its horrible.

Fx you gets bit more sleep tonight cheshire you must be superwoman running on 3 hours sleep!

MrsHende Tue 16-Oct-12 20:09:21

Ach strawb, that's so frustrating. Could you maybe get a cancellation before January? If your op has been cancelled then others must be too. Like Engels said, it's good that he's not an emergency case and that they are taking his health seriously.

Chesh, hope P has a better night tonight, poor thing, is it teeth?

Hooray for 7 hours climbing! How rubbish though that you didn't enjoy it, hope you feel better.

Hugs for poorly babes, poorly mums, sleep deprived mums and frustrated mums!

We're having a lovely time in Aviemore - couldn't get a snowsuit in L's size at home so had a look for one here today. £45!!!!! Some were £75! Think I'll just he wrapping her in blankets and waiting till I get home to buy the right size in the £12 Tesco snowsuit! grin

Engelsemama Wed 17-Oct-12 07:31:48

Welcome back sassy Glad you had a good time in Italy – pictures look great. Good to hear the twins have some nursery time – hope it gives you a bit more of a breather.

MrsH enjoy your break. We are not planning on any wintersport trips this year and the odds of snow are quite small, but if it does snow I will be putting M in the all-in-one rain suit a colleague gave me and layering him up underneath! but blankets sound good to me

Managed to get some sleep last night Cheshire?

Hope you’re feeling better climbing. Has DS been reading your MN name? grin

strawb find some random person to scream at if it makes you feel better or do it at the tv, it’s what I do everytime Ainsley Harriot is on tv

Sunday was really nice. Everyone seemed to arrive at once and so was a bit of a whirl of coffee and tea and cake, but then calmed down. We invited all of DH’s family, though not all of them came, but was really nice with people dropping in throughout the day. Time to rev up for birthday party number 2 with our friends --and their kids—this weekend.

The zoo on Monday was lovely – quite nippy weather so Max was wrapped up warm in his new coat, and able to toddle about in his shoes. He refused to fall asleep the whole day as he didn’t want to miss anything, and then as soon as we got in the car he was out. We were going to go for a pancake house for dinner but I Max was so tired that we decided to do it another day because I’m such an old lady.

So, on my 2nd baby free day with M at nursery. Managed to get all of my marking done yesterday. Still have some bits and pieces of planning and reading today which I may do today, but more importantly it’s my ME day today. Having ,lunch with a friend after I get my hair cut. Then going to do bits and pieces in town and come home and enjoy an empty house for a few hours.

Feels really weird being at home without M though. I keep catching myself thinking, “Max is still sleeping, he must be really tired!” before remembering that he’s not here!

EdwardorEricCantDecide Wed 17-Oct-12 12:13:01

Been gone so long I've fallen off the thread again blush
Wee update on me. As everyone predicted I ended up giving H another chance. (I know I'm predictable/frustrating) but at least this time we have actually gone through with booking counselling and have our first session a week today.
I am now starting to think maybe I've been really negative on him he has sopped smoking (cannabis) and hasn't touched it since January/christmas last year can't remember and he probably doesn't drink much more than average it just seems worse to me because I don't touch alcohol iyswim?
He is good with the kids most days, I'm also hoping it works for financial reasons. Our circumstances are quite a bit worse than I thought (after speaking to lenders going through statements etc. so got a bit of a hole we need to climb out of. sad

ipswichwitch Wed 17-Oct-12 20:55:13

ed, regardless of what you decide and what changes of heart you may have I sincerely hope that however things turn out you will be happy, and make the decisions that are right for you. Counselling sounds like a good step IMO.

Happy belated birthdays, I've been a bit crap in keeping up . N is poorly again- ear infection and conjunctivitis sad so no sleep for anyone in the witch household. And in other news, I am pregnant! Was a big surprise, and actually found out on the wedding day (some wedding present huh!), so I had to spend the whole day avoiding BIL who was determined to buy me a ridiculously alcoholic drink! I've not been feeling great- couple of vomiting episodes (never had that last time), extremely tired and v gassy (sorry if tmi!)

Sorry about Ws op sp. It's so frustrating I know, to get yourself prepared then have it cancelled like that. I hope they come back with a new date soon and fingers x'ed it happens this time

CheshireDing Wed 17-Oct-12 21:44:05

Wow Ips so pleased for you ! smile x I hope you keep us updated with all the info grin

Counselling sounds good Ed and a step in the progressive/right direction. At the end of the day it is whatever will make you happy, just do remember to think of yourself in all of this too. If you are unhappy other people will end up that way too by default.

Engels I have Friday off to do stuff and P will be at nursery. I did worry that I was supposed to feel bad and it but she enjoys nursery and I can get shit done so surely it's okay, it's it?
< still questioning myself because I read AIBU >

Glad the party went okay Climbing. You are right being at work is easy peasy grin (would prefer to be loaded and scratch around at home though!)

Strawberry 3 hours sleep just means Snickers and today I found out where the Starbucks is near work, soon my work clothes will no longer be too big for me sad

MrsH don't get carried away with yourself, it's definitely still the singular "tooth" and that's only a sliver, there ain't more than one in that mouth! Anyway she had risotto tonight so I am hoping she is loaded down with rice grin

Congratulations ips grin hope N feels better soon too

EdwardorEricCantDecide Wed 17-Oct-12 23:10:42

Ips shock congratulations grin
Sorry to hear about all the poorly babies, and happy birthday to any I've missed over the last few days.
My 2 have had a cough for what feels like months, I keep thinking its getting better, they'll have a few days of no coughing/snot etc then it's back again confused
We've decided just to do a little tea and cake party for M with just grandparents/godparents at home the Sunday after her birthday.

So strange but despite the fact that m can only say a couple of words ATM she can actually say "I love you" although she only ever says it to C which is really cute I think she learned it from him as he's constantly saying it to her/me/H or just random strangers hmm
She also started shouting DINNER really loudly at me this afternoon I think she may have been hungry grin

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 17-Oct-12 23:48:48

Congratulations ips smilesmilesmile

Penelope1980 Thu 18-Oct-12 07:56:42

Congrats ips! How far alaong?

cheshire if you are off work and P's in nursery there is no shame in a sanity day! I did the same recently and it was fab

Climbingpenguin Thu 18-Oct-12 08:37:10

ips I saw on the other thread, many congratulations smile smile

turned out I had a chest infection and after a day on antibiotics I'm already feeling a lot more human. Just mostly back pain now from the coughing. My asthma meds have been upped by three times as well for the duration as the two were playing off each other.

DCs might even get a proper dinner today.

I don't work and DCs still have a nursery session (used to be two, but now just one).

Penelope1980 Thu 18-Oct-12 09:44:40

This discussion of guilt and sending dcs to nursery when we don't have to strictly have to makes me a little sad that so much of being a mother seems to be feeling guilty. Why do we all feel like this I wonder?

sassy34264 Thu 18-Oct-12 09:49:37


Sorry about the op strawberry It must be so frustrating and emotionally draining. Hope you get a new date to focus on soon.

Congratulations ips on the pregnancy and your wedding.

Glad you are feeling better penguin Chest infections are nasty.

I forgot to say, that Eva is fully mobile! She has been taking steps for months, but fell over every 2 or 3 at first, and then last week, she was making it half way across the room, and this week, she can just stay up!


Where is my baby?

She is going to be 1 tomorrow. The year has literally just whizzed by.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 18-Oct-12 10:36:12

Happy belated birthday to baby pebble smile

Not much happening around here.. S hasn't taken any more reactions which is great. She has a new game she likes to play, hide and seek. But not as you would know it, she likes to hide my things then I spend the next few hours trying to find them. The other day it was the house phone, later found it in her toy box, yesterday it was my hair brush, found it in the bottom if her changing table hmmgrin.
She managed to climb on the couch yesterday as well. I walked in to find her up, laying back chilling out watching the news!!!
Getting very cold here in the mornings (gro egg said 16.1 degrees in her room when I got her up!) so I'm off to the curtain shop tomorrow to get the thermal lining to do her curtains. Heating has been set to come on and off for a bit through the night but I hate to think she is cold sad

sassy34264 Thu 18-Oct-12 11:50:21


crossed posts before. I dont feel guilty at all! its a pity they have to be 2 years, otherwise id have eva going as well.

i dont see it as me fobbing them off on nursery. I see it as me giving them a social life. grin

pity im not more well off and then they could go every morning. wink

Engelsemama Thu 18-Oct-12 12:14:57

Wow! congrats ips ! Am so excited for you!

ed good luck for what lies ahead. Hoping everything works out for you.

pen and chesh I don't feel guilty when M's at nursery - I just kept forgetting that's where he was grin and was having way too much fun yesterday to feel guilty I bought myself beautiful boots yesterday as well

duck another sofa climber! M managed it once or twice last week - so funny to watch him getting frustrtade when he can't quite get his leg up. Arf at "chilling out watching the news"

well done walking eva sassy - amazing how quick they pick it up once they've made the first few steps. Hope she has a good birthday tomorrow.

Just back from session with photographer. not amazing successful as she wanted M to be sitting down all the time which he really doesn't want to do right now! We get one "free" photo (session itself was only 5 euros) and then the rest of the photos are RIDICULOUSLY expensive....over 200 euros for 11 photos and a CD of the rest shock ...so we may be just sticking with our freebie blush

Feeling lazy and sleepy. M and DH are both napping, so I may snuggle down and wtach the rest of Twilight (got sidetracked yesterday!).

Engelsemama Thu 18-Oct-12 12:15:45

blush at all my typing errors

EdwardorEricCantDecide Thu 18-Oct-12 14:59:01

engels am envy @ twilight i'm currently sitting at work listening to people moan. and not skiving on MN at all

Engelsemama Thu 18-Oct-12 19:12:26

The more I watch the Twilight films the harder I find it to take them seriously, but I just can't help swooning at Robert Pattinson ed . He is totally gorgeous. I love his hair <sigh>

I actually left DH to it this afternoon with M since it's his daddy day anyway, so shut myself in the kitchen to write tahnk you cards and as letter to my best friend. A bit angry at DH - he hasn't changed a single nappy all day and when I told asked him to take M to bed (after I'd given him a bath...M not DH grin ) he made some feeble excuse about collecting his parents' post instead (which he did, but wouldn't you rather put your very-easy-at-bedtimes child to bed than go outside and collect some crappy free papers?). <sigh> sometimes I don't understand men.

have bought M some new pyjamas as he only has one pair that fit him now and am having to drag them off his back every few days due to excess snot and do express wash/dry during the day . Sure the sleep suit he has in his box at nursery is only a size 68, and he's now wearing 80 comfortably and 86 rolled up a bit. blush

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 18-Oct-12 19:25:43

I'm waiting for the twilathon that's on here in November. I've seen three of the films (I think..!). Totally not my kind of movie at all, but I did enjoy them. My mum is having S overnight tomorrow so may borrow them from friend and watch with some yummy food grin
That reminds me engels, I've still to do thank you cards blush. Ill try get some photos from the party printed off and sent with a little note attached. Ment to say as well, M hair was looking much darker in that fb video you posted of him eating his cake! Has it changed? How is it going with the helmet?
ed as has been said, I really hope everything works out with you and H smile
Had a lovely day catching up with friends. S had fun messing up someone else's house for a change grin

Climbingpenguin Thu 18-Oct-12 20:25:56

<ignores thank you cards>

but only until ILs helpfully remind us on sunday

Wow at E proper walking sassy and grin at all the sofa climbers

Glad S hasn't had any more reactions duck

Had a call from the Cranio-facial team today. Turns out W's op would have been put back anyway as one of the anaesthetists on the team has needed emergency surgery himself and they've had to do a lot of re-scheduling. We have two new dates! 15th November if they have an anaesthetist and 3rd December at the latest (as long a W is ok) if it has to slip again. I feel a bit better now we have dates to work to again.

sassy34264 Thu 18-Oct-12 20:56:22

Oh, that's good strawberry I was thinking it will be after Xmas.

I haven't seen any twilight films, or harry potter, for that matter.Not really my type of films. Dp despairs of me as I hate blockbusters and like indie/arty obscure/foreign films. ( Or as he calls them-talking films)
If it says won an film festival on the cover, he groans cos he knows I'll want to watch it. [Grin]

Eva couch climbs too.she says hi daddy (along with the usual mummy, nanna etc) and can Hum the tune to twinkle twinkle. She is the sweetest child going - or so you think until you don't let her have her own way! Then the (surname of dp ) temper gene kicks in......

She wrestles with you for the spoon, through a strop if you go to give her her bottle but stop mid way to wipe her nose or move her to the rug etc. She throws herself backwards and proper screams. God help me in a years time when the tantrums really start. She makes Isobel look tame in comparison. [Grin]

Just wrapped presents, wrote card and blown up happy 1st birthday balloons. Dp working away tomorrow and has to leave 6am and won't be back till late, so we are going out for the day on sat and having small party sat night.

Climbingpenguin Thu 18-Oct-12 21:30:13

strawberry that's great. Remember if you need anything while you are at the JR to let me know. Feel free to pm me for my phone no or email/skype.

DS climbs onto those plastic see-saws and then rocks himself back and forwards. He tried very hard to climb the sofa but his legs can't quite reach.

DS doesn't have that many words, like 2 or 3 I ignore the possibility of his TT/LT being the reason but has mama, nana and hi ya. What he does have is a very special noise for when he see's food that he doesn't have. He can't hum the tune but he has started doing the twinkle action with his hand and can put his hand over his mouth and make a kissing/pucker noise to copy us blowing kisses.

He's sleep of 11-6 hasn't been repeated, but he has until 1pm a few nights so I might try a dream feed earlier to see if that can convince him to do his longest stretch then. Although I will wait and see if a pattern actually develops first, plus finish sorting out after the move, getting well...

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 18-Oct-12 22:43:20

smile reading all these things our wonderful babies are doing smile
S says mama dad! papa, hiya and tries to call the cats which is cute! She can do the twinkle twinkle actions and if you start to say 'round and round the garden..' she puts her finger on her other palm. She loves to point and waves bye bye. She is really starting to understand what I'm saying, like if I hand her her cup ill tell her to sit down on her bottom which she does. She enjoys carrying things around with her and moving things from one place to another smile

Happy birthday for tomorrow little Eva!

EdwardorEricCantDecide Fri 19-Oct-12 00:03:41

Happy birthday to Eva (in the morning) sassy
As much as i love the twilight movies I don't take them seriously any more at all. I still really enjoy the books though.
duck I have tickets booked for the twiathlon at the cinema grin pretty sure after 10+ hours of rob ill be drowning in drool and have a really sore arse
I also love Harry potter and LOTR can't wait for The Hobbit really fits in with my inability to live in the real world wink

Engelsemama Fri 19-Oct-12 07:57:37

I don't think it's darker duck he's just got more of it and it isn't hidden under a helmet grin Head is fine. Have last hospital appt today. The flat bit isn't flat anymore, though you can still see the "bulge" on the other side where it compensated a bit. I don't think you would notice unless you were looking though.

I must admit ed the books still make me go slightly weak at the knees. Have you read her other book "The Host"? The films are awful sassy if you haven't read the books, but still jolly good wet afternoon fun

M also tantrums when I wipe his nose sassy Have a lovely day.

penguin I am only doing yhank you cards for my friends who sent presents from the UK and NZ. My family are being lazy practical and said they'll give Max his present when we see them weekend after next as Dsis's wedding. ILs were all here for party - DH insists that people don't need a thank you card if you've thanked them in person (If MIL pulls me up on it I will just play the stupid foreigner card again grin )

Great news on op strawb Mst give you a bti mroe peace of mind to have some dates to focus on now.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Fri 19-Oct-12 08:57:03

Great about helmet smile
I wasn't a fan of Harry potter or lotr. Infact, I went with an ex to see the first lotr and we both left half way through as we were both totally lost blush
S was up at 6am, so so dark till about 8am! We snuggled in bed and watched Mickey Mouse on my iPhone. Me with a cup of tea and S with a cup of milk, lovely grin

CheshireDing Fri 19-Oct-12 10:15:41

Glad you all feel the same about sending them to nursery when not at work. It was too late to cancel and not be charged anyway so I figured she may as well go, get tired out (hopefully) and I can loads of stuff done. Feels odd though, like this time last year to be off in the winter and early morning dog walking alone, lovely but odd!

Ed I and P have had a cough and cold for what I am sure is about 5 weeks now, as soon as I thin it's going back it comes. I did take P to the walk in centre about 3-4 weeks ago but he said it just had to run it's course. Her throat is really rattly and she was full of snot this morning poor thing sad

Engels I think the cost of photos is so high these days because people wise up and get them scanned, which is just as good a quality but means the photographers are having to charge more I guess. I am not surprised M didn't want to sit still, he wanted to be off nosing around I bet grin

P still sleeps in vest and baby grows and gro bag, does anyone else or have you all changed to proper pj's?

Strawberry good you have some fixed dates now, what's the recovery time tough? Am thinking of the December date and you and W enjoying Christmas smile

Sassy I think I have a diva on my hands too! That's why I keep telling DH he is looking after her when she can verbalise! God help us!! (and the poor cat), she was dragging him by his tail this morning and pulled his mouth and the poor guy still came back for more < demented moggie emoticon >

Can't comment on Harry Potter/Twilight/Lord of the Rings etc as have seen/read neither.

Penelope1980 Fri 19-Oct-12 10:17:11

I've never really got into LOTR either, although DH is a massive massive fan. Being a NZer it seems somewhat disloyal to say that I was fairly indifferent to LOTR movies - especially as two of my cousins worked on the set and parts of it were filled where I live - but I am.

Ed the Hobbit was filmed where I live - the studios are on the other side of town - and the premier will be here as well. So we'll def go to that one.

However, I LOVE Harrry Potter grin

It never occured to me to send thank you cards, although I did make a point of calling or emailing everyone that sent a card or present.

CheshireDing Fri 19-Oct-12 10:50:43

Happy Birthday Baby Sassy too. Hope E has a lovely day smile

Climbingpenguin Fri 19-Oct-12 12:13:15

we send thank you cards to DH's family who insist on sending stuff even though some of them I haven't met and others only met once. Since we don't call or email then we are forced to send thank you cards. In reality we want to just ask them to stop but this would cause issues.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Fri 19-Oct-12 14:42:39

cheshire I had gotten some proper pjs that she wore before, but she is back in Sleepsuits for over winter. I was putting socks on her when she was in pjs but they were always off by the morning and her feet were cold (that's in gro bag to) so figured sleepsuits would do just as well.

Part 1 of operation 'winter proofing' has been done. Got some thermal lining for S curtains in her room. Stitched them this morning so fingers crossed should keep her room warmer. I seem some beautiful fabric reduced so thinking of making my own for the living room... Have a friend who I can borrow a machine from. Want to get the living room painted before Christmas so will give me a good excuse for trying it out. Can't be that hard can it..?!

What's everyone's plans for the weekend? smile

Engelsemama Fri 19-Oct-12 16:55:26

Cheshire M has pretty much worn pyjamas since he was born. he's had the occasional sleepsuit that we were given when he was really little and at nursery at the moment he has a sleepsuit with no feet (but not for long grin ). He is still in a sleeping bag. Have a great one from Ikea that was a present and he's always toasty in the morning, even with no socks.

Last weekend of half term here for me Duck. Have people round on Sunday for more birthday cake so will have to spruce up downstairs tomorrow, but other than that I will be relaxing and enjoying not thinking about school.

pen I love Harry Potter as well. A friend of mine went to the new theme park in Florida. It looked amazing apart from the fact it's in Florida whihc doesn't really appeal to me. Wondering about tryign to go on the studio tour in the UK some time sure I could find someone just as insane to come with me.

Have just signed up for NaNoWriMo 2012 - writing a novel in one month shock so am going to have to get my shit together if I have any chance of finishing. Am guessing that I will go and write evenings once M is in bed for a few hours, or maybe during his nap time on the days I'm home. Hoping this will be the kick up the arse I need.

EdwardorEricCantDecide Fri 19-Oct-12 20:39:33

We're really skint this weekend so be staying in or going to the park, or anything else I can think of that's free smile

EdwardorEricCantDecide Fri 19-Oct-12 20:42:15

I am making my own advent calender and Xmas decorations so ill do a bit more work on them this weekend. grin so far I have resisted getting the Xmas CDs out but I'm soo tempted grin

Penelope1980 Fri 19-Oct-12 20:55:39

engels am thinking of doing NaNoWriMo as well! Have you done it before? I haven't although have written one novel and that took much longer than a month! Maybe I will ... although is it cheating if I have already done 10,000 words?

MummyDuckAndDuckling Fri 19-Oct-12 21:33:51

Well I've opened the wine. Making the most of not having S here. Just wish I could go out... I need to get my social life back, I've become a total bore

Engelsemama Fri 19-Oct-12 21:39:49

I haven't done it before pen but yes <hoists up judgey pants for the first time ever> it is technically cheating if you start with 10,000 - but you're only cheating yourself wink

<whispers> and I won't tell anyone if you don't wink

Am just getting started with some ideas. 12 days to get some kind of outline together. I think the whole idea is just to write and get the material down, rather than editing and agonising (and procrastinating grin ).

I'm not quite sure I know what 50,000 words looks like hmm

Duck your social life cannot posibly be any worse than mine. It's 10.30, have finished the bottle of wine we opened last Sunday and now I'm going to go to bed and read (and this is a late night, with wine, so slightly more exciting than the average night in the Engels household).

Climbingpenguin Fri 19-Oct-12 21:46:21

<tries to remember word count of thesis>

don't think it's as bad as you think

as you say, sounds like the idea is to just bash away and not get caught up in the details.

good luck i say

I plan to take advantage of will aid in November, to write a will, take out a life insurance policy and nominate a carer in case both me and DH peg it.

eng great news about the helmet, does that mean he can stop wearing it now?

cheshire recovery time for the operation is roughly one week in hospital then another 4-5 recovering at home, so even with the December date he'll be home at Christmas even if he isn't 'better'

Thanks for he offer climbing I'll pm you when I'm next on MN proper instead of the app.

Good luck to those of you planning to do NaNo I don't think I could find the time at the moment!

Harry Potter fans here to, DH more so than me. I got us tickets to the studio tour for our anniversary and I have to day it was well worth the money the sets and props were incredible - we really did walk down Diagon Alley it was great. Not a big LOTR fan tho I'm never sure why the books get such praise they are horrible to try and read! (and don't even get me started on sparkling vampires give me Spike Buffy any day)

Penelope1980 Sat 20-Oct-12 03:17:07

I think 50,000 words is about 200 pages (?) And you're right engels I will start from scratch - either that, or start counting from 10,001 grin. Need to decide if I can find another plot. It's hard to know what won't be naff when it's actually written down! Am excited about the idea though - I need a project at the moment

EdwardorEricCantDecide Sat 20-Oct-12 03:38:54

I totally agree about the LOTR books I managed the hobbit and really enjoyed it. But when I tried to read the trilogy it took me 1.5yrs to get halfway through the 2nd one and every bit felt like really hard work. Films are great though.

Engelsemama Sat 20-Oct-12 08:38:33

Yep strawb helmet is toast, though tbh we haven’t made him wear it for the last week since his birthday. The difference in 6 months is amazing. They measure the diagonals on his head and work out the differences between them. Not sure exactly what the number means grin but a perfectly symmetrical head will be 100%, 100-104% is classed as normal variation and 104-108% is classed as mild “flat/wonky head” (I’m very technical me). M started out with 116% and is finishing with 106% so we’re pleased.

Am very envy at Diagon Alley. DH is not a fan (but doesn’t hate them either). I must say that I’m not a huge fan of the LOTR books, I found them hard work (and I am a serious bookworm and English teacher) and they’re certainly not on my re-read list unlike Harry Potter, Twilight, The Sookie Stackhouse and Jilly Cooper’s collected works .

pen I have the NaNoWriMo Ready,Set,Novel! that I bought a few years ago and am using it to brainstorm right now. Even though I have had a few ideas brewing in my head the past few years I’m just doing this as an experiment to see where it takes me. DH thinks I’m bonkers.

Wow ed just saw the time of your post….late night?

We managed to all sleep in till 8.40. DH has gone to help his brother with some DIY so I am MNing tidying the house for tomorrow.

MrsHende Sat 20-Oct-12 08:46:06

Very impressed by the novel writers among us! Let us know how you get on!

Happy birthday to more one year olds! I read somewhere 'Parenthood: The days are long but the years are short'. So, so true!

Last morning of our holiday. Very damp all round but we've had some lovely walks and caught up with lovely friends. Lizzie has been quite unsettled at night but a joy during the day, this is such a great age isn't it!

Was out with a childless friend the other day. She and her husband are struggling to decide if they are going to try for a baby or not. She says she doesn't want to not have a child, but has no strong longings for one. I really feel for her. Like me, she's on the wrong side of 35 and met her DH only a couple of years ago. However, I knew I really wanted a family from a very young age. We both wish we'd met our OHs ten years earlier but I know that I would then have started having babies earlier whereas she would have travelled the world! Do you all agree with my advice to her that she would never regret having a baby but she might regret not having one? They would be wonderful parents and are universally adored by all their friends' children. I don't want to add to the huge pressure they already feel to have a baby but I would be so sad if they never had the joy we all get from our bambinos.

Bit of a brain dump there!

Ips! Fantastic news! I'm shocked by how jealous I feel...maybe the hyperemisis (sp!) scars a beginning to fade...!

Right, off to pack the bags and prepare for the drive home. Happy Saturday!

EdwardorEricCantDecide Sat 20-Oct-12 09:00:20

Haha engels I was in bed at 11pm last night after sleeping kn the couch since 9pm but M still wakes some nights so because I had slept so much I was wide awake after getting her back down.
I'm also impressed by all the novel writers. I love writing but I've never had a good idea for a decent plot/characters etc so don't think I could write a novel.

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 20-Oct-12 10:28:05

mrsh that to me sounds like wonderful advice. I've always known from a very young age that I wanted to have children and I honestly can't imagine how it would feel to never have a baby. I knew one lady who was very 'business minded' and found herself unexpectedly pregnant at 37. She went through with it then had another 2 years later! She says now that she wishes she had done it much sooner but had never though of herself as maternal.

I've never known anyone to regret having a baby. You just wouldn't smile

I sometimes feel for celebs like kylie and Jennifer Anniston. They have both spoken about their desire for a baby and the likely hood of it now is probably so little given their ages.

My only regret, no its not even a regret, with S is that she wasn't born into a stable relationship, but then again, I wouldn't change anything for the world smile

sassy34264 Sat 20-Oct-12 10:40:33

mrsh I agree with you about your friend. But would probably have been too scared to say It in case she has one and regrets it! <chicken emotiocon>

Very impressed with the novel writing. I'm the opposite Ed I think of loads of ideas but wouldn't have the first clue how to write one.

Plus my Wiganism `s would be hard to digest, not sure people could put up with "I had fort go shop" grin

LittlePebble Sat 20-Oct-12 15:30:09

Buono Sera! I finally have Internet in Italy on day one of our two day honeymoon. Just having a bath while DH (grin) sleeps and E pulls a loo roll apart on the floor.

Ipswitch congratulations! Very jealous I'm trying to persuade DH to try again....

So Italy has been amazing, great 1st birthday for E followed by the most beautiful wedding. Just chilling out now everyone else has gone home. It's lovely to be just the three of us for a while.
Catch up properly when I get back.

MrsHende Sat 20-Oct-12 19:37:07

Hooray MrsPebble!!

Congratulations grin x

EdwardorEricCantDecide Sat 20-Oct-12 19:44:53

congratulations pebble
sassy we could do one together you come up with the ideas and ill write grin

sassy34264 Sat 20-Oct-12 19:51:59

Congratulations pebble

ed grin it's very vague ideas, not really a beginning, middle and conclusion! Like parrell universes etc hmm

MummyDuckAndDuckling Sat 20-Oct-12 20:03:58

Congratulations Mrs Pebble grin

Penelope1980 Sat 20-Oct-12 20:30:18

pebble congrats! That's exciting!

Mrs Hende I think that's good experience. Anyway - in my experience of having lots of friends who have had babies - being maternal beforehand or not doesn't seem to make the blind bit of difference to whether or not someone is a good mother once they make the decision to have a baby. Longing for a baby since you were 10 and thinking of baby names at 12 or spending your 20s not even sure you want them and not deciding until you're the wrong side of 30 - those things aren't determinates of anything once the babies are here.

sassy and ed you should put your ideas on paper! My first attempt at a novel flopped, as did my second (neither made it past chapter three). BUT the learning experience was good and now I have finally completed one on my third attempt! I did it when A was a baby actually, while he slept. I started when he was about 6 weeks old as a way to ward of baby blues initially and took it from there.

Although is harder now I work and he sleeps less grin

TallyBear Sat 20-Oct-12 20:30:36

Congrats Pepple, so glad it all went ok.

And Isp double congrats to you.

And Happy Birthday to all the birthday babies. It's thanks all round!!

Just to put my tuppence in...I loved LotRs- books and films- and am looking forward to the Hobbit. Not into Twilight at all (give me True Blood any day) nor Harry Potter (the kiddles version of LotR if you ask me).

I like the idea that every has a novel in them, I just would not have a clue what mine would be or where to start. I think I'll stick to reading them - much easier.

MrsH I was in the same position as your friend a few years ago. No desire to have a baby but didn't want to not have one. Dh eventually persuaded me (rough part of our marriage) and now I love Seb to bits and don't regret having him at all. Not sure about another one though.... It is a decision that they need to make.

Climbing we plan to do all that too! Only a year overdue!

Cheshire Seb is still in babygrows at night. We call them his jim-jams but only because he only uses them at night now. Although he's outgrowing them again so I might move into proper PJs in the hope that they last longer. As long as the tops don't ride up too much in his bag.

Just fitted an AirWrap I got on e-bay - why did I not buy one sooner?! With any luck it will stop the 4am dummy-on-the-floor searches!

Penelope1980 Sat 20-Oct-12 20:31:09

ooops "advice" instead of "experience"

Congrats pebble hope it was a fantastic day smile

mrsH I agree, even with all the hospital trips etc I've never regretted our choice to have W. Currently trying to work out how I feel about a second, don't really want him to be an only but no strong feeling for another baby yet either. It might come after his ops out the way and I know he's ok, that's sort of how it worked for W - pretty much as soon as we were married I wanted a baby just took DH a couple of years to catch up!

Climbingpenguin Sun 21-Oct-12 17:30:46

pepple glad it you seemed to have a lovely day

I wasn't sure I wanted children but am very glad DD is here now. In hindsight I do think maybe we should have waited a bit longer. DH wanted DD as he is a few years older than me, I agreed, then changed my mind but turned out I was already pregnant. I'm sure once my career is back on track I'll be recommending it to everyone thought grin

I have a meeting with a university group in a few weeks to see if we can agree on a research idea for me put in a fellowship application. Should know by the end of that meeting if things look like they will move forward or not.

Engelsemama Sun 21-Oct-12 18:49:31

<collapses on sofa>

We've just had our friends party for M's birthday and I am so tired. DH's friends' kids are all wild!!!! Complete gannets, wolfing everything in sight (and then asking me if I have any more), running around our tiny house and nearly knocking M and another tiny one (15mo) over, trying to open all of M's presents and new toys, sticking Sophie the Giraffe into a pot plant (wtf!), sucking on our sofa cushions (they're in the wash), sitting astride the arm of the couch and then falling off into another pot plant......Ducth children are CRAZY! or maybe I should blame the parents

Whatever, I'm completely exhausted!

DH just got really irate because an inconsiderate arsehole parked in our drive and then wandered off, blocking us in. We didn't see them arrive but DH rolled it forward further into our drive (they'd left it in neutral) and then blocked it in with FIL car, waiting for them to get back and have to come and grovel to get their car unblocked. But after an hour and half, still no sign. We figured they were visiting our neighbours, who have their own driveway on the other side of their house (plus there's LOADS of free parking on the other side of our road - the lazy arses would just have to cross the street). So DH went round next door to interrupt their dinner ask them if it was one of their guests and it was. DH said he recognised the guy - he'd told him once before not to park in our driveway. Not good for DH's blood pressure. Sounds such a petty thing, but why do people have to be so anti-social?! It's not like we were going out, but we could have been, and anyway, that's not the point.

Feeling emotionally wrecked. Time for a stiff drink grin

Congrats pebble !

sassy34264 Sun 21-Oct-12 20:27:49

happy birthday to j and l (bunt+out) i think.

sassy34264 Tue 23-Oct-12 09:06:18

Have i killed the thread!

or did you all move without telling me.........

Helllloooooo Helllloooooo <echo>

Penelope1980 Tue 23-Oct-12 09:28:21

Hello! grin Am still here (although just finished cleaning pasta sauce off wall as A was in a throwing mood during dinner)

sassy34264 Tue 23-Oct-12 09:41:59

I was a day early for j and L 's birthday i think. oops.

Hope they both had a good day, and the mums too smile

pene grin at the pasta sauce on the walls. I've cleaned it off the walls more than once. I have yet to do ceilings- so can't be that bad.

I'm counting down the minutes until my mum gets here. Going to be productive and get upstairs cleaned. Only gets a cat lick, as i cant leave them downstairs for more than a few minutes and they kick off if i try to put them in their bedroom to do it.

I also have to nip out to the police station, to log a menancing text i've had off the exdp. Bastard.......

My mum is in the processes of being medically retired, due to the stroke she had over the summer. It is a huge relief to her and us. She has worked in a category B male prison for the last 16 years, so it would be far from unstressful for her.

Just hoping they dont decide that she is capable of other forms of work though- you know what they can be like.

I'm also hoping dp doesnt see it as a reason for me to go back to work. Boo. I really dont want to. I'll have to play the 'my mum is too ill to watch all 3 of them, full time' card grin

Climbingpenguin Tue 23-Oct-12 10:52:15

I'm here, almost feeling normal again. I ended up pulling a load of muscles in my back from the coughing so was in quite a bit of pain with that. Plus dodgy internet connection

LittlePebble Tue 23-Oct-12 11:39:46

I'm here! Got home at 3am after delayed flight and fog. I am utterly exhausted but we're off for our one "honeymoon" night in a posh hotel tonight (without the boy) <drags self up off floor and tries to be excited>

EdwardorEricCantDecide Tue 23-Oct-12 11:41:32

I'm here sort of blooming exhausted though.
Happy birthday to all the birthday babies this week xx

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 23-Oct-12 11:44:28

im here!

just put S down in cot for a nap, but she is in there chatting away to her toys and doing everything but sleep! i think she is starting to go much longer in the mornings now but only giving her 1 sleep usually isnt long enough and she is shattered by 5/6pm. yesterday we were out and about and never got home till 1pm. i put her to bed then but think she had gone past the tired stage but finally went off at 2pm but only for an hour. i hate this 'inbetween' stage!

climbing glad to hear you are feeling better
sassy hope everything is sorted today with exdp. do you have a court date for nov?

we have S app at the hospital tomorrow to go over results with ultrasound and what the plan is next in regards to the little growth. im trying not to worry as the sonographer was very happy with how everything looked and couldnt see anything out of place internally, but its just what they will decide to do now. she is scratching a lot down there when her nappy is off, may be perfectly normal but she really really goes for it! im starting to wonder as well if she maybe has thrush (if this is even possible?. ive noticed a few days ago some white stuff and she has a very slight rash. i used some cream hoping that it maybe was just nappy rash but not clearing up. i will ask about it tomorrow.

been doing some online christmas shopping this morning. ordered a few books for S and some small things for family. im trying to space it out as much as i can over the next few months so i wont notice the big hit on my bank balance in one go!

hope everyone is well smile

MummyDuckAndDuckling Tue 23-Oct-12 11:45:39

oooh!! have fun little pebble winkgrin

EdwardorEricCantDecide Tue 23-Oct-12 13:54:08

I does sound like thrush duck maybe take her to the doc just incase, it is certainly possible for babies/kids to get it.
<sending happy thoughts for S app tomorrow>
Have a great honeymoon LP
sassy hope things move on soon for you and Cmist be hard on you both. Have you got a court date yet?
I'm just getting organised for M birthday it's so funny but on the one hand it feels like this has been the longest year of my life but on the other I feel like M should still be a tiny baby and can't believe she's nearly 1!
DH and I have our first counselling session tomorrow and I'm quite nervous, don't really know what to expect. confused

Engelsemama Tue 23-Oct-12 18:49:43

I'm still here. Feeling very sneezy and full of cold. DH had to collect M from nursery today as he had a high temp. Hoping it clears up in time for Dsis's wedding this weekend. Just heard my other Dsis has also arrived in Sydney so she should be fine to get to the UK in time for the wedding. I haven't seen her for 2 years so am really looking forward to this weekend. Hoping I don't balls it up by being sick sad

Sorry for lack of personals. May well call in sick tomorrow the way I feel (or have to keep M home if he still has a temp) so might be able to catch up tomorrow.


sassy34264 Tue 23-Oct-12 20:14:41

Poor S mummyduck I never had thrush once until a couple a years ago and ive been plagued with it ever since. it's so annoying. Hope it all gets sorted soon.

Court date is 4th dec. was told nov in court but when letter came it said that date. Went to the police station and the receptionist was shit. Tried to fob me off, with, 'can you not change your number' and 'he might not mean it threateningly' stupid bitch. she doesn't know whether he used to beat me black and blue, rape me, beat our daughter or anything- she didn't ask. She doesnt even know when we split up, it could have been 3 months ago and i could be massively at risk. I Just interrupted her and said, are you telling me i cant log it then? She said you can log it but we will have to action it. Said ok then.......

ed good luck for your counselling tomorrow. Ive never been either, so can't tell you what to expect.

engels Get well soon. defo have the day off, will help to get you better quicker i'm sure for the wedding. yeah to seeing your sister after 2 years. I haven't got a sister and it didn't bother me in the slightest growing up, but i would love one now. envy

CheshireDing Tue 23-Oct-12 20:40:52

Happy Baby Birthdays to Out and Bunt smile

Am here but am spending a lot of time commuting, now need to make sandwiches and change a car tyre before bed to will come back and read and respond properly later.

Climbingpenguin Tue 23-Oct-12 20:50:03

happy birthday to all the babies and hope you are all enjoying them as well

DS did his first proper walking today (rather than the random falling in three steps he has done until now)

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 24-Oct-12 00:31:20

Aww sassy sad. I'm so sorry that exp put you and C through all that

sassy34264 Wed 24-Oct-12 07:30:57

mummy Sorry,

i didnt mean that he has done that to me. He never raped me- not even close. He never beat c either. I was making the point, that the worst could have happened to us and she didnt have a clue, but was trying to down play it and for all she knew, these things could have happened. blush

The first one is true though sad

Engelsemama Wed 24-Oct-12 10:15:39

Morning all. M had a temperature again this morning so have kept him off nursery. I called in sick last night as well so we're both surrounded by tissues grin Just put him to bed for a sleep, so now time for me to snuggle down and watch some trash tv and do no work whatsoever I will have to pack later though. Not sure if I will go in tomorrow or not.

M decided that he didn't like our GP for the first few mins - refused to walk in, sank to his knees and started howling blush

sassy I am shock that a police receptionist would say that to you. There have been so many stories the past few years of women who were murdered by DP/Hs or ex-P/Hs after they'd been to the police asking for help.

Well done L Climbing ! Glad you're feeling a bit better.

Cheshire re: car tyre, I'm going to quote one of my students. Yesterday I was up a step ladder in the Drama room, putting our heavy blackout curtains back up when they arrived and he said, "Miss, shouldn't a man be doing that for you?" I was shock but also LMAO. We had a little discussion about gender stereotypes after that grin

I'm sorry, I'm getting a little carried away with the halloween smileys!

sassy I always feel like being from a big family (1Dbro, 2Dsis) doesn't necessarily mean I'm close with all my family - more that I can pick and choose who I like the best! that sounds very cold-hearted I'm closest to my DSis who is getting married - we're only 3 years apart and we're both in stable relationships, same career path. I get on well with my younger Dsis but she's been travelling and working abroad for the last 2 years and is planning on going back to the Southern Hemisphere after a few months. I feel like we're at very different stages of our lives. My Dbro (who I have mentioned before) is a good bloke but really lazy and still lives with my parents - moaning about house prices while spending his cash on bikes and cars. Still, will be great to see everyone this weekend. We're havign a family meal early on Friday and sitting with Dsis and Dbro during the wedding so will be able to have a good catch up.

ed and duck hope your respective appts go well today.

pebble hope you enjoyed your "proper" honeymoon night wink

<waves at pen, strawb, tally, mrsH and all you lurkers smile >

Engelsemama Wed 24-Oct-12 12:15:47

Sad news from Cup's thread. Little Bea passed away this morning sad

CheshireDing Wed 24-Oct-12 12:44:36

Oh God Engels that's so sad.

Am going to go over to Bea's thread.

I WILL get around to responding to everybody here shortly.

sassy34264 Wed 24-Oct-12 12:49:01

oh no, poor cup and family. so very sad. how lucky the rest of us on this thread are. going to go and give eva a cuddle i think.

engels it's mine and dp's 10 year anniversary on fri, so we are having a meal too.

<screws up face to ponder how the hell we made it to 10 years> grin

EdwardorEricCantDecide Wed 24-Oct-12 12:54:59

Aww no! Poor cup and family. sad

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 24-Oct-12 12:55:28

Oh no!! I was reading cups thread this morning. I'm in shock. How very very sad sad

Climbingpenguin Wed 24-Oct-12 13:54:06


MrsHende Wed 24-Oct-12 16:58:08

Such sad news sad

Penelope1980 Wed 24-Oct-12 20:02:50

That's sad news indeed sad

Poor Cup and family sad little Bea was such a brave little fighter

climbing great on the walking. Took W to get his first 'proper' shoes today as he's getting closer to walking still cruising at the moment tho.

eng hope you both feel better soon x

sassy congratulations on 10 years hope you have a lovely day.

duck how did S appointment go today?

We have a top tooth at last. Explains why he's had a cranky few days!

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 24-Oct-12 21:13:59

App today went well sp smile. Doctor very happy with ultrasound results. Her vagina/womb/ovaries etc are all in correct place and correct size. Thinks its possibly a prolapse of tissue but as its not changed in size, not to worry about it. He will want to see her again when she is slightly older and re asses to be sure it won't cause her problems in the future, but if I have any concerns just to take her straight back to him and not go through the GP. I mentioned the scratching so he said just to be careful that it doesn't bleed if she manages to get it. Forgot to ask him about the possible thrush so I might try get her to see the GP in next few days and her wee bum isn't looking much better. I'm wondering if it would just be the same cream given to adults as I'm sure I have some laying about blush.

Still can't get over the shock of little Bea sad. I remember her post from the day she was at hospital saying they were taking her in to deliver Beatrice there and then! She put up a brave fight for such a little girl. I couldn't help but cuddle S just a little tighter tonight. It's just heartbreaking

Hope everyone is well. Give your babies all extra kisses tonight smile

That's great duck what a relief for you smile

It makes you want to hold onto your baby and never let go doesn't it, the whole family is so brave cups post has just had me crying.

TallyBear Wed 24-Oct-12 21:36:30

So sad about little Bea. How awful. Poor Cup

sassy34264 Wed 24-Oct-12 21:58:54

mummyduck good news about S. I'm not sure if they can use the same cream or not. Prob best to nip to gp's just in case.

I went on to cup's thread to leave a message, but only read 2 posts and got so upset i couldnt even see the screen. Spent 10 mins crying and hugging my 3 little ones. I can't bear it. I love them so much it breaks my heart to think of anything happening to them. I think cup is a much stronger mum/person than me. I think i would need sedating. I did manage to look at the pics on her profile though and she's sooooo gorgeous.

mummy i remember it too. Mostly because it was history repeating itself. On the twins thread, the first baby was born 3 months premature, and then i was the 2nd with twins. Then on this thread, cup was early and then the next to be born were twins. (sorry D ive totally forgotten your mumsnet name!)

I'm glad she had as much time as she did with bea, and sad she didnt have more.

sassy34264 Wed 24-Oct-12 22:04:26

strawberry hooray for the tooth.

Eva seems to be no tooth for ages and then 3/4 at once.

i've been a very bad mum, and still not got around to getting eva's last injections done. (one time, we had been out for the day and got stuck in traffic on the motorway and missed the slot, another time, i totally forgot and missed it and then i had to cancel another time. ) finally booked it again today, for next wed. fxed i remember <brain like a sieve>

Anyone want to remind- feel free........wed 2.10pm

MummyDuckAndDuckling Wed 24-Oct-12 22:55:48

My goodness, her new thread is just so sad. I can't stop the tears for this little girl. I'm so glad they got to spend as much time as they did with her. Life is so precious

Scheherezade Thu 25-Oct-12 00:20:59

So sad about cup sad

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 25-Oct-12 08:10:26

I've offered to crochet a square for Bea's blanket on all of our behalf smile

Thank you duck that's lovely smile I seriously considered offering to knit one but I really don't have the time at the moment, I'm barely lurching from one end of the day to the other.

sassy34264 Thu 25-Oct-12 09:52:09

That's a lovely idea mummy smile Thank you

EdwardorEricCantDecide Thu 25-Oct-12 11:10:05

thanks mummy thats a lovely idea

MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 25-Oct-12 11:18:03


MummyDuckAndDuckling Thu 25-Oct-12 17:36:20

My god, S has spent what's felt like all day screaming!! If I leave the room she comes running after me screaming at the top of her lungs. She does something that I tell her 'no' to, she tries and tries again to do it. It's pure rage coming from her!

Climbingpenguin Thu 25-Oct-12 19:19:05

Duck thank you for doing it from all of us, very much appreciated.

there is a wonder week at 55 weeks. From memory I found the 13-18 month part with DD very hard work. The stage where they can get everywhere but don't understand much. That's when I gave up eating at cafe's, realised if at a children's centre we would be outside the whole time etc.