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December 2011: The one where DSM gets married...

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LittleMissFlustered Thu 02-Aug-12 22:59:00

<dons posh frock and adjusts fascinator>


OiMissus Thu 02-Aug-12 23:13:03

Are we allowed to throw cOnfetti?
BOi had haggis today. Loved it. That's ma BOi!!

aethelfleda Thu 02-Aug-12 23:27:37

<tries to picture confetti made out of mini haggis>

If we have virtual invites does that mean we can drink as much virtual wine as we like and not get hungover? Hurrah!

KateM77 Fri 03-Aug-12 04:03:56


hawthers Fri 03-Aug-12 05:29:15

Am right with you kate banburying away

Can we also get babysitters for a virtual night off?

aethelfleda Fri 03-Aug-12 05:54:45

Urrrgh, DS has just had his morning bottle and half of it bounced.


and we have half a magnolia front room...then the paint ran out. Whoops. I am singlehandedly keeping the DIY retail business oit of recession...

<banbury> We've been up since 4, watch Legally Blonde, currently on Legally Blonde 2 (my brain doesn't work this early) and it's still not even 8!

Woohoo 14days till the big day grin

Everyone is welcome to enjoy it with us. lots of wine, and virtual baby sitters lol. Posh frock a must tho!

Had a relatively good night with Sky. Was up for about an hr between 12:30 & 1:30 wanting to play hmm Darcie slept well too.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 03-Aug-12 09:04:20

I love a good wedding i do grin

Oooh, shiny new thread...countdown to the wedding please dsm your first post of every day should say exactly how many weeks, days, hours & minutes you have to go! smile

I'm getting really fed up with my OH. If he didn't make such beautiful babies & if bfing hormones didn't keep me so docile I'm, not sure I'd still be here sad that being said, I'm not sure we'd be having these problems if we didn't have a baby. Our relationship was rock solid before ds so I'm hoping it's just hormones & sleep deprivation. I don't think he realises how hard I work to be nice to him.

kitty I felt exactly the same way about car seats; I had my FF car seat picked out when I discovered ERF & was very annoyed/disappointed to give it up. At least with ERF there are less choices so in theory it shouldn't take as long to decide hmm Cheapest I believe is the Britax 2 way elite at £220, it goes from 9-25kg so will last longer than most group 1 seats & if anyone's in Lancashire there's one on ebay

Hello air I know this is a bit late but I haven't been posting much & I was thinking about you the other day & your hv referring Aaron because she hadn't heard him say a full sentence; could you video him speaking? Then you'd have proof that he does speak, he just doesn't want to speak to her wink

<throws off the cloak of lurk>

Place marked!

Your DH does come out with some interesting comments HLC, that one about your boobs would've found my DH looking for something to get the wood axe out of his back hmm
And tbh, from the pictures, I think it's you that makes the beautiful babies grin

Am also dead excited about the wedding DSM, please put some piccies on here (for us few who aren't on fb) too! We should all have an agreed time when we're on line and raise a glass to toast the bride grin

Right, am off- tis mother's birthday today, so we're taking her to the Inn at Whitewell for her prezzie; if anyone watched it, it was the first place on that Rob Brydon/Steve Coogan thingy The Trip.

<re-lurks, Romulan stylee>

Honey I'm getting married at 3:30pm on Saturday 18th August smile

Northern I will attempt to upload pics lol

OiMissus Fri 03-Aug-12 09:47:55

We had a tough night again.
He's absolutely fine during the day and doesn't cry at all.
In the evening he gets tetchy when he's tired and can sometimes cry. But at night, when he wakes up, he's inconsolable. He shouldn't be hungry, but the only thing that will calm him completely is a feed. I can sing to calm him, and he will nod off, but as soon as you put him down/move/breathe he starts to scream again. sad I am presuming that it's his teeth that are bothering him.
Oh anyway, now I am no longer bfing I can find a dress for the wedding that doesn't have to be bf friendly!!! Virtual shoppi here I come!
There's so many things I need, but I really can't go shopping in our new predicament. <breathes in and tightens belt>
Tis a good thing that we are new-ish friends, it means I can get away with wearing a wedding outfit of the past, and you won't know that I've worn it before. grin ...Unless I choose the big white one. wink

OiMissus Fri 03-Aug-12 09:56:27

As for keeping the DIY shops afloat, I too am doing my bit. I've spent over £200 in wood treatment stuff for the decking. We've used 4 x 5litre pots and I have another 2 x 2.5l pots for the slidey/swing thing and trellis bit above the love-seat-swing thing. (Technical terms - not being used to garden furniture terminology). We haven't started on all the fencing yet. If this turns out to be an annual necessity, I'll be hailing some travelling types with a tarmac truck!

seven77 Fri 03-Aug-12 11:49:22

kitty well done for the amazing weight loss!

dsm not long now!

LMF glad the party went well.

We're slowly getting organised with the big house tidy and sort out. I've tidied the office and thrown out loads of rubbish. I'm also doing well freegling loads of old junk stuff as well.

LittleMissFlustered Fri 03-Aug-12 11:50:05

Octoboy is squealing at the rowing. I'm not sure if he approves, but he's being very vocalsmile

LittleMissFlustered Fri 03-Aug-12 11:53:42

Seven we are still doing the Great Annual Declutter here too. Slowly slowly junky gubbins!

Today I am vacuuming the living room, clearing the train table and sorting out the giant box that's in the kitchen. There will be copious amounts of laundry done also as its a bright breezy day and I've a washing line I'm not afeard ofgrin

This is a quiet day, as we can stay home. I need to redefine our concept of quiet I think >_<

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 03-Aug-12 12:39:55

Lol hv is coming on monday. I tried to show her but she said she couldnt accept video evidance she can only go by what she sees in the visite and "we all know he has a problem with speeking" hmm

She called me this week as well and left a voice message but i havent called her back. Im feeling a little harrased by her now. I still havent seen Social worker so that 8 months now.

We are all ok and plodding along not much to update on!

Figgygal Fri 03-Aug-12 12:55:57

Air your hv sounds like a twat cant accept video evidence angry

Well caught up with my friend this am shes had a miscarriage at 8 weeks its now 2 weeks on and shes still carrying the baby, she diesnt want the med procedure but likewise they've said could be another 4 weeks before she passes anything naturally. Feel really sorry for her as she doesnt know what to do for the best sad and I've no experience to give her any advice.

Well its raining again, ds asleep, kitchen cleaned and all the shopping done so debating what to do this afternoon, want to go to the local farm shop but i know i will return with cheeses and other naughties. Must find a distraction!!

aethelfleda Fri 03-Aug-12 13:10:18

<haddocks> for your hv, air!

oi, inconsilable crying is no fun at all. Have you tried the short term double-whammy approach? It's strictly non official, but if it's teething you suspect, try the following: when he wakes at night tonight, give him a full dose of neurofen (3 ml) and then a 7 oz feed, settle and back to bed. Next night give him a full dose of neurofen and then a 6 oz feed. The next night give a 5 oz bottle, then four then three (at this point halve the neurofen dose, it will have a placebo effect for him and you) then two then one. The next night (this is a week in) no neurofen and just water in a sippy cup. If it gets you sleep while he has the pain relief you have your answer, teething usually comes in cycles so the few days of regular dosing should help, and by reducing each night you've set yourself a natural time limit but legitemised yourself to give him relief. Maybe worth a try?

figgy how sad sad every mum is different in this situation so there isn't "right" advice. Some feel the procedure is needed asap so they can deal with their loss, others feel it's too invasive. All you can do is be supportive and non judgemental and let her make the decision. Boo.

<Lobs Swordfish at Air HV> How annoying. I'd want to know why she is still being a pain in the neck tbh when your Social worker is more than happy with you. How are things with DH?

Figgy Nowt you can say but be there for her. Must be an incredibly hard feeling.

DP & I are going on our last date night tonight. although we are going early evening - is wrong to feel a little sad about that?!

Kitty5824 Fri 03-Aug-12 13:51:56

It's a weird feeling isn't it dsm? Just make sure you keep having date nights once you are married!!

Just realised I'm going to have to leave the house at 4am to get to Eton Dorney tomorrow morning! Ugh! Good job Mum is staying over so we can just tiptoe out without sorting Seb grin

Kitty It is weird and I know we plan to have one date night a month so we still get that much needed time to ourselves.

Are you taking Seb to Eton Dorney with you?

Kitty5824 Fri 03-Aug-12 14:10:08

Nope, tomorrow is our date day!!

Granny is looking after Seb tomorrow, we're taking him down to London on Sunday to watch the women's marathon though. My Uncle lives in Stockwell so we're going to drive there Sun morning and walk up from there.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 03-Aug-12 14:43:40

Ummmm dh has been to see mental health nurse and has mild depression and ansiouty (sp?).

Its like i get little bit better and start coping wellso its his turn to be ill and not do anything!

When u talk to him about lieing to me he does the stearing off in to space thing and when i ask to talk about it guess what its never the right time.

He acts like nothing has happened and when i lose my temper with him and ask him to leave he refuses.

He is controling emotionally blackmailing and none communicative right now and he thinks this is ok because he has depression so its not his fault.

I told him we need to go to relate but he wants to sort the depression out then goto relate and he is not happy it will cost him money!

His is happy to go on family picnics with me and the children and to play with air afterworrk but thats it. He might as well still be staying with his mum.

So he is here but im in limbo regarding relationship. I have sved some money and i can move back to North Wales and rent and get a job but i want to give him his 7th chance before i leave with children for good.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 03-Aug-12 14:48:18

I have told him this and his reply is "No your not noone is leaving"

I guess he will be shocked in three months time when he comes home to an empty house if he doesnt start talking and making a big effort.

LittleMissFlustered Fri 03-Aug-12 15:03:34

Keep strong Air, but keep an eye on him too. Make sure he has no access to your saved money, and if you feel you need to go, go <hug>

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 03-Aug-12 15:17:38

Thanks I will be fine i always am. I just feel a bit gulity i didnt choose a better father for my children and that i have let them down.

I really thought he was my soul mate and that we would grow old together and always be happy together - how neive was I lol

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 03-Aug-12 15:27:45

Part of me wants to help him get better and be happy

and a part wants to hit him over head and tell him i dont need this or him and it does not excuse the stupid lieing to me! Or the fact he did something i asked him not too and that he know it would upset me but he didnt care about my feelings or me.

MissRee Fri 03-Aug-12 16:23:49

<cartwheels in to Mark place a la Olympic gymnasts>

Sorry to hear you're still having a hard time with your husband. I have no advice really but just wanted to offer some support.

<backflips out the door again>

KateM77 Fri 03-Aug-12 17:09:08

Heading for a friend's 40th bday bash on Manchester. Currently in Fri afternoon traffic hell on the M6. First night away from DS. Wondering if I'll actually sleep through given I finally have the opportunity to do so! Hoping I don't get too drunk...it's been a long time since I had to deal with a hangover smile

KateM77 Fri 03-Aug-12 18:09:42

It's not going well. Now in centre of Manchester and mum has just had to call me to say DS is very unhappy and not settling. Can see us having to dash back...for 2.5 hours...at this rate sad

seven77 Fri 03-Aug-12 18:43:08

kate I hope DS settles ok for your mum and you get to enjoy your night off.

air 7 chances? you can't help him get better, the only person who can do that is himself. As for moaning about relate costing him money, surely saving the relationship is worth paying for hmm. And you're only letting your DCs down by staying together if you're unhappy and it's clear the relationship isn't worth saving. Wrt the HV, remember you don't have to see her. If he can speak a sentence when she isnt there that's all that matters, he isn't a performing circus monkey angry.

LMF the trouble is that I got pregnant not long after we moved, so pregnancy tiredness then a baby meant I never got round to properly 'sorting out' when we moved in. The important stuff was done but a lot of other stuff just got dumped in the office and the garage.

figgy just be there for her. Listen if she wants to talk, and don't be surprised if it takes a while before she seems 'normal' again. 3 weeks on and I had a wobble yesterday seeing the tiny babies at baby weigh-in sad

Eva was crawling when she was overtired earlier, and fell and banged her face on the floor. She cut just under her nose and might be getting a black eye sad. At least my mum was here so I can't be accused of it being my fault.

LittleMissFlustered Fri 03-Aug-12 19:04:43

Sat watching The Hairy Dieters and I feel sick. Not about them, myself. I think I need to make a changesad

LittleMissFlustered Fri 03-Aug-12 19:17:03

Sorry, that was a bit pathetic. I think it was a bit of a eureka moment though.

aethel I've added you on myfitnesspal, I'll endeavour to get weighed tomorrowsad

aethelfleda Fri 03-Aug-12 19:43:42

Found you lmf! i must admit I hate calorie counters with a vengeance as they remind me of my teenage attempts to diet (let's not go there) and I find I respond much better to portion control than counting. I'm going to give the app a couple of weeks and see how it goes (she says while munching a 450 cal foccacia). The other main issue I have with counting cals is it makes the DDs aware that Mummy is food restricting (slightly), which I REALLY don't want them to get hung up about, young children are surprisingly perceptive.... Right, off to paint the front room again!

((((hug)))) Air, do what you can for your family, it is tough and there are no guarantees in life, but you are doing so well to hold it together in these circumstances.

((((hug)))) also for seven. the loss doesn't go but it dulls a little with time and becomes more bearable.

seven77 Fri 03-Aug-12 20:52:26

aethel you made me cry. Someone lob a <haddock> in this direction.

LMF how much do you want to lose? At the least I want to be back in my size 16 skinny jeans (I'm at least 2 inches away), though ideally tbh I need to lose 4 stone. I'm failing miserably on myfitnesspal, tbh I don't want to count calories, and I'm stubborn, and I'm not giving up carbs, what I need is some form of support to steer me in the right direction when I'm reaching for the biscuits.

How about starting a thread in weight loss? losing baby weight, and the rest. Anyone interested?

LittleMissFlustered Fri 03-Aug-12 21:04:09

A dietician would tell me I need to halve my body weight. Personally I'd like to get down to a size 18. I'm 5'8" and my hips are obscenely wide, anything below that starts to look proportionally weirdsad

It's going to be so hard. I am useless at food. I don't like many foodstuffs. Those I do like are not entirely helpful to weight loss. I'm just going to have to try though, and come September see if I can find a leisure centre with a crèche and a gym as I can jut about afford those fees but not the fees for a 'proper' gym:/

LittleMissFlustered Fri 03-Aug-12 21:21:51

The council offer an inclusion centre membership. £20 per month gets me use if the gyms and pools as well as the centre based classes. I think I can do that if I budget. Crèche is about £4 per session, and if I ask nicely mum might look after octoboy once a week so I can do two sessions a week. Hopefully.

CherryBlossom27 Fri 03-Aug-12 21:36:21

Hi everyone,

LMF £20 a month is brilliant, I think just go for it! I'm two stone heavier than I was before I got pregnant, I think I'm a size 14 now. I don't feel 'big' I just want to wear my favourite black skinny jeans and I can't sad Once my Mum has gone back home I'm going to re-start my Davina fitness DVD smile Mum is a very bad influence, we had iced vanilla lattes and cake today and an ice cream too!

Kate Hope you are now enjoying your night off!

Air I haven't really got any good advice, but thinking of you. It's really tough to be in this position and trying to do what is right for everyone in the family.

DS has cut his second top tooth today, the other one appeared a few days ago. He now has two top and two bottom teeth grin Poor DS was a complete misery last week with the heat plus teething so I gave him his first taste of calpol! So happy that's it for a while on the teething front smile

I had a shock this morning, DS now fits perfectly in his 12 month size dungarees....eek! Mum and I bought him 5 t-shirts and 2 cardigans today, Mum had already bought him two pairs of dungarees and a pair of jeans from the charity shop, so I think we are sorted until he grows again.

I know it's way too early....but....as our little ones are December babies, have any of you made any plans or got any ideas on how to celebrate their birthdays? I'm being silly and stressing as Christmas Eve (DS's birthday) is a working day this year and I have no idea how we will spend the day and separate birthday from Christmas!

Air I totally agree with what Seven has said. Your only going to hurt the kids of you stay and surely your relationship is worth more than money costs! His depression shouldn't be an excuse for everything. The 3 of you are better off out of there tbh. X

Those of you with weight loss ishoos. I'm sorry I can't be of help. To me it's just portion size, healthy food & regular exercise. You'll all hate not like me too much now as I have trouble maintaining a healthy weight even tho I do all of the above! Post baby a size 8-10 pre baby a size 6!

Well had a lovely Nando's meal and watched Batman: The Dark Knight Rises and it was a fab film grin Sky was good for Grandma & Grandad too and is home fast asleep in bed. Darcie is at my mums and we are now chilling in bed watching Olympics - this is how we roll grin

aethelfleda Fri 03-Aug-12 21:38:40

<hurls a kleenex at seven cunningly origamied into a haddock shape for maximum absorbancy>
Sorry to upset you my dear. Everyone reacts differently to pregnancy loss. I early-mc'd between the DDs and that will always be part of my story (for some reason I'm convinced it was a little boy though it was too early to possibly know). It does get easier.

I'm up for a thread over in weight loss as i suspect that may be longer lasting for me than the fitnesspal, and it permits more chat than the app (though it is public, does that bother anyone?) You link and i'll join...

Good luck with the gym plan lmf, I find evening DVDs fit in best with my day so I'm going back to those. (right, back to painting again, that's my coffee break done!)

Figgygal Fri 03-Aug-12 22:05:42


I'm a couple of lbs up again from pre pg weight am a size 12/14 am 5'10 so tall and lucky to carry weight well because of it but am back in my normal clothes so not too bothered which is obviously why I haven't lost that pesky 7lbs I would love to lose. I used to be a size 18/20 until about 10yrs ago and have been this size since i then lost 3 stone I honestly couldn't do it again I lived on 1000 kcals for months and became the most boring woman alive it was all I ever spoke about. I think my metabolism when I was 20 was very different to now I lost the 3 stone without breaking a sweat but now I suspect I would have to work my ass off and frankly I'm a lazy old boot grin

mopsy r u out there? She might be still at her sisters I guess

LittleMissFlustered Fri 03-Aug-12 22:25:04

Shiny new thread for withering on about the evils of wanting a venti latte with three sugars and a side order of cakesmile

KateM77 Sat 04-Aug-12 00:52:52

DS settled and mum apologised for calling. Enjoying party. A bit too much. Mojito, champagne, beer, wine, whisky. Could hurt tomorrow. DJ is Jason Orange's twin brother. If you say so. Twins like arnie and Danny de Vito.

KateM77 Sat 04-Aug-12 00:54:13

Did I mention I'm a little bit drunk?

Kitty5824 Sat 04-Aug-12 03:49:33

grin @ Kate Where in Manchester was the party <sighs wistfully as Manc friends are out sat night and I'm missing it>

I'm up! I was also still doing chores at 2340, got to bed at 2345, Seb woke me screaming at 0045. I think I volunteered to drive. Balls!

Must remember not to sing "row, row, row your boat" like we've been doing when the rowing is on TV blush

mopsytop Sat 04-Aug-12 06:52:43

Hi all, I'm still here figgy, I'm so sorry, I keep meaning to post but minimopsy has been in a grump of epic proportions all week and just keeps complaining and crying all day so I can't find a chance, then in the evenings my husband gets cross if I'm on my phone as ge doesn't see me all day so I try to avoid it. Sorry I WILL catch up soon! It's been a bit of a stressy week and has made me appreciate more than ever my generally smiley, non grumpy baba!! She must be teething still. She got her first 2 while we were in Ireland!

Hope you're all ok. Sorry about your husband air, sounds tough. Kate, sounds like you had fun, hope your head is ok this morning! seven, so sorry it's tough, I hope you feel better about it soon. lmf and aethel, my weight loss has stalled. Not going up at least but need to start going down so will join your new thread. Oi rubbish about your husband's employers, they sound like tossers. I must admit I'd be tempted to take them to court but I know that wd be a major hassle. Tyel (sorry can't remember new name!), hope you managed to sort put some more flexible working. DSM, not long to go now, exciting! gee, hope the sleep is improving somewhat, hawthers, sounds like it is for you, let's hope it lasts. honey, sounded like a stressful situation with your mil. Also I'm only judging from what you've said but your partner doesn't appear to pull his weight much at all baby wise so I'm not surprised you're finding your relationship a small bit tough right now. Hopefully he will improve as Rocco gets older. Crying baby, must dash, sorry if I missed anyone!

LittleMissFlustered Sat 04-Aug-12 08:42:37

Banbury. Every 90 minutes last nightsad

mopsytop Sat 04-Aug-12 08:44:05

Sorry honey, I meant your mother, not your mil!!

Oh and I hope you're all enjoying the 'limpics! I am loving them! Now I have a half English baby I feel I can legitimately cheer on Team GB - it's the first time I've allowed myself to in sport. It's weird, I've lived here for 9 years now (can't believe it's been that long-eek!) and I love living here and love the people and the country, married an Englishman and it truly feels like home now, I'll probably never move back home realistically, but I still always felt it was completely taboo to support England in any sport (although, of course, Scotland and Wales were fine!) but now I have a baby who is half English, I finally feel it's allowed. It is ridiculous I never did before because I think all that antagonism between English and Irish is completely ridiculous. Firstly it all happened a long time ago and secondly it's not like the regular citizens of England were having a grand old time while the Irish were being oppressed. The poor in England were just as oppressed as those in Ireland. So it's ridiculous to feel antagonism. It SO annoys me when I here Irish people who live in England having a go about English people, if they don't like it they should move home. sorry, rant over. All that just to say that it's so much more fun watching the games when there ate loads of people to cheer on. Ireland has so few competitors that opportunities to cheer are far fewer!

Figgygal Sat 04-Aug-12 09:25:04

Mopsy welcome back and good news on the teeth, we still have no sign of any here hes still a gummy monster. Currently he's devouring his breakfast crumpet and melon weve only just got up he woke at 6 came into our bed for an hour then went back to his 7 and we all ended up waking just b4 9. Must have been tired i never go back to sleep normally but the week of night wake ups must have caught up with me - though hes slept through for last 2 nights.

Def thinking am going to have to up to 4+ nappies we had another morning of soaking wet boy with huge nappy malfunction thats 4 this week at least. They either cant take the quantities or he needs active fit and his new rolling around activities means they need to be more pliable......ho hum!!

Plans for today? We off to see ice age 4 at local cinema dh loves those movies and best part is its 10.00 for both of us with glasses not £11.40 for each of us at the big cinemas .........thieves angry ds going to pil might even manage a drink in the pub before we go.......steady on!!!

KateM77 Sat 04-Aug-12 10:43:38

kitty we were staying near the g mex and it was in a private dining room at a bar and restaurant walking distance from there. Can't tell you exactly where though, I just followed DH as he's the one from up here. Hope you're having fun, I'm sure it'll be worth the early start. If you see a crocodile don't forget to scream!

<hands vat of coffee to LMF>

On our way back home to our lovely LO's. Feeling surprisingly well. Listening to Olympics on the radio. Absolutely loving them so far mopsy. Pleased you feel you can now cheer on team GB grin

LittleMissFlustered Sat 04-Aug-12 12:00:07

We're having lots of malympic love chez flusteredgrin

<swims in a lake of espresso>

MissRee Sat 04-Aug-12 15:25:19

<watching the jumpolining>

Boing boing!

LittleMissFlustered Sat 04-Aug-12 16:07:21

I am out, but do love jumpalining. We have Ann eleven foot one in the garden and the kids love to pretend they're professionalsgrin

Figgygal Sat 04-Aug-12 18:24:42

Aw I missed the trampolining!!

<Waves to Mopsy>

LMF Seems you've got Olympians in training there grin

We've been enjoying the Olympics on the box! Rowing we done fab. Ladies team pursuit was excellent. They flew round the velodrome smile now hoping Jessica Ennis completes her 800mtrs in style as she's done well in all other events.

KateM77 Sat 04-Aug-12 20:00:25

DD was an angel for Nanna yesterday but seems to be punishing us for having gone away for a night but having a 2 hour long tantrum and refusing to go to bed. Currently trying to ignore her and waiting until she wears herself out sad

LittleMissFlustered Sat 04-Aug-12 20:08:29

Octoboy has been a sod to put down for a few nights now. I find rocking and chanting 'this too will pass' entirely ineffective but hey, it passes to time!

This time in 2 weeks I'll be a married lady and getting ready to boogie off the huge dinner I just ate grin

Figgygal Sat 04-Aug-12 20:40:44

Oi hope the party has gone well today!!

KateM77 Sat 04-Aug-12 21:15:54

Oh yes, hope the party went well oi

3 hours of screaming before DD finally collapsed asleep. Really hope it was a one-off and not a sign of things to come. I don't know about her but I'm exhausted now!

seven77 Sat 04-Aug-12 22:19:29

oi hope the party is going well and they haven't trashed your new house.

kate 3 hours is impressive! Hope it's just a one-off.

Been to my parents house today. My sister was there with my almost 2yo neice, she's been a stroppy little madam today. Throwing food on the floor and screaming, clearly just attention seeking, though they seem oblivious to it.

I thought that Eva was just a grizzly baby and that she was fine on small amounts of lactose but just couldn't manage normal formula and yoghurts. Anyway, I've been really careful this week not to give her any dairy at all and she's been so much happier. I gave her a fruity custard jar for tea so I guess tomorrow we'll find out if it's just coincidence. This lactose free lark is going to be harder than I thought though, this week mil bought a milkybar round for her and my mum tried to give her a dairylea sandwich hmm.

BeeMyBaby Sat 04-Aug-12 22:56:36

cherry DD2s top teeth came in less than three weeks ago, so, like you, I thought that'd be it for a while - but don't be fooled! DD2s 5th tooth came through today so now I have to wait for its partner in crime to pop up the other side - The teething will be continuous until they are two!

Re weight, I had managed to get to pre preg weight and a little less so was feeling quite good, apart from since Wed I've eaten 3 family bags of minstrels (on my own) and a ridiculous number of doughnuts/pastries (due to stress of returning to work) so have plonked back on 2kg, doesn't bode well thats its only taken 3 days to undo whats taken weeks/months to slowly slowly lose.

aethelfleda Sun 05-Aug-12 05:55:28

Do you still have a new house then, oi?

good day yesterday: went to a friend's baby's secular christening, then saw my bro on the way home and nattered and drank tea while our children all played. DS has gone from trying to crawl to crazy kamakazee turbo crawler in a week, this is not in the schedule!!! On the up side it's only a week til DH gets home.

Hope you got aome sleep kate and good luck seven with the post-custard situation..,

<warms up the enormous Dec-11 engraved coffee pot>

seven77 Sun 05-Aug-12 09:05:21

<holds out bucket>

Bad night here, DS woke at 11.30 then didn't really settle again until nearly 3, then DD was up at 5.20.

Thanks aethel, all fine at the moment, if it plays her up she should be grizzly by lunchtime/early afternoon. She's also a turbo crawler, she's suddenly got really fast the last few days. She's also now pulling up and saying mama. I know it doesn't mean anything yet but it's so cute!

Today's plan is to plonk DS in front of a DVD and hope DD cooperates while I do washing, cleaning and gardening.

12 Days to go grin

KateM77 Sun 05-Aug-12 13:18:39

<also holds out giant mug>

There was definite tag teaming yesterday and last night. DS grumpy from 5-6, DD tantrums 6-9, DS needed settling 10.30, 12.30 and 4. Ended up feeding a few oz 4.30. DD squeaked a few times in between too. Will think twice before having another night off if this is what they then do!

Congrats on all the crawling babies. DS seems just like DD in that he's quite content to just sit and play and watch the world around him. I suspect he'll also be a bum shuffler.

Hope DD is ok seven that must make it so hard. DS is still not keen on eating, but I always know he'll at least have some grimace fraud if nothing else!

Figgygal Sun 05-Aug-12 16:32:12

kate bum shuffling is very effective figgyboy is off like a shot now but is very angry if we suggest tummy time/crawling.

As he's sitting so well we've deflated his sitting ring made me feel all sad sad.

Been looking at smart trikes today as an alternative to the hated pushchair have discovered 1 that is suitable from 6 months. It has a big reclining seat and am v tempted but of course it's a lot more money than the others at £125. oi there is one on eBay in Bolton that looks on good nick if u were thinking of something like that for boi.

Another day of Olympics today at least andy Murray has won grin

OiMissus Sun 05-Aug-12 18:32:49

Cheers figgy, I might check that out.
Thanks for the well wishes. The party was good fun. It was "from 2", and we'd just got all the seating outside and the table tennis table up when it started raining. So we all ran to bring it in, but then it dried up just as quickly and stayed dry until about 9pm I think. We had about 35 people throughout the day, but the house was not trashed. We were outside most of the time. grin it was lovely to see kids playing in the garden. It was also v v lovely to see bennybenbear, her DH and Olly. He's such a handsome little man now, gorgeous!
My cousin and her family have left. She got up before us and cleaned the house!! (I came home from work on Friday to find her doing my ironing!) we've just relaxed today, and I finally got some time on the tennis table!
Having a leftover beer, watching Andy Murray.
I'll maybe start my diet tomorrow... My belly is wobbly.good luck to you ladies.
air only you know what's best, but if he won't go to Relate, then he's probably wasting your time and patience.
Welcome back mopsy, hope you've enjoyed your time off.

aethelfleda Sun 05-Aug-12 19:13:22

figgy, do you cycle at all? I have a bike seat that fits babies officially from 6 months-5 years, it can be great for getting about (having said that i haven't got it going yet as my big two aren't confident enough on their bikes for me to be happy with combining seat balancing and catching DDs: some of our local roads are v busy.)

GeeandTee Sun 05-Aug-12 19:49:28

Hello all. Just marking place on the new thread and hoping for a sleeping baby miracle! No improvement as yet but DD has a sore throat/cough so is extra thirsty at night so I'm not being too strict on the nighttime feeding at the moment.

oi glad your house isn't trashed and the party went well.

lmf and others who are dieting hope it goes well and is not too painfuk. I find just upping fruit/veg intake and decreasing fat and carbs is the easiest way for me to lose weight. Not good with anything being forbidden as then I just obsess about having it!

Forgotten everything else I was going to say. We need a sleep deprivation emoticon.

GeeandTee Sun 05-Aug-12 19:50:34

Ahem. Painful not painfuk! blush

aethelfleda Sun 05-Aug-12 21:06:46

Actually gee, I've not thought of putting that into the calorie counter app, I wonder if different calorie values are given for...
<Oh dear, pass the mind-bleach, please!>

Ah, the joys of a six hour plus return journey from home...just slightly knackered, and up and off to work at the usual time tomorrow. Bless him, DS is getting rather good at eating his dinner in motorway service stations...

Hopefully catch up properly tomorrow apart from the minor matter of getting the house sorted after a week away

Wishing you all a good night!

OiMissus Mon 06-Aug-12 07:32:39

bleurgh. Horrible night. BOi wentdown v early, but then woke up in time for the men's 100m final. He went manic for about an hour, and then went to sleep again, but he was restless all night.
He's in our bed, as we've not moved his cot back in after our guests left (my cousins little girl slept in the Stokke Sleepi that the house sellers left us). And as I am now the only worker, DH is in charge of nighttime shushage. He failed yesterday and got very frustrated with BOi and me. So i took over.
He apologised this morning.
I need more sleep.
I put the kettle on, coffee anyone?

hawthers Mon 06-Aug-12 07:37:11

Bucket needed over here.

F up three times a night for the last week. It's teething as I've managed to pop some bonjela in and he's gone back to sleep several times but there is nothing I can do to stop him waking un the first place is there?

Totally fed up and I need sleep!

OiMissus Mon 06-Aug-12 08:08:32

Aethel prescribes nurofen but I haven't tried it yet.
Tis teething here too.
He has two teeth now.
Maybe the nurofen is for me? <am zombied>

LittleMissFlustered Mon 06-Aug-12 08:26:54

Up every hour. Again. Tired and so very fed up. No chance of sleep, so coffee here too pleasesad

11 Days grin


Good night sleep here. Sky woke at 5:15 had 4oz and is still asleep. Darcie is downstairs watching Disney channel smile

Cake baking today.

OiMissus Mon 06-Aug-12 09:12:11

11 days. grin
I'm orf to Denmark again at the end of the week. Just for one night. I hope I can get some sleep then. This time I have a chance as I won't have painful, engorged boobs.

mopsytop Mon 06-Aug-12 09:30:26

Sounds like lots of sleepless nights. Minimopsy has slept well the past few nights which was very welcome after weeks of waking up once an hour.

Mum and sister here this weekend which has been lovely. Ugh shrieking baby must dash..,

seven77 Mon 06-Aug-12 10:45:29

<hands out skinny hazelnut lattes and Anbesol>

Sorry about all of the non-sleeping and grumpiness. I'm struggling with a miserable DH at the moment. He's having a hard time at work, one of the customers called him a wanker yesterday because he wouldn't serve him 90 minutes before the pub opened hmm. Half the staff are so up-their-own-arses they won't talk to him, he got called in my his boss yesterday because he isn't happy enough, no wonder really. I'm trying to be supportive but it's not easy when he's so miserable it affects us all.

OiMissus Mon 06-Aug-12 14:33:07

I think BOi's tooth/night time grumpiness is made a bit worse by DHs work stress. It certainly doesn't help. And it's just more pressure on me to try and keep everything running smoothly... so seven, I understand!
On brighter note, and I'm not sure exactly how I feel about this, but BOi can climb the stairs! I came home from work an hour ago to pass the car to DH, and he demonstrated BOi's new-found stair climbing development. hmm
The house is split level, so there are only 6 steps per staircase, but he's pretty quick.
We need to show how to go down safely, and we won't need stairgates... hmm I think this will be slightly more demanding!

Hurrah for stairclimbing Oi, hope it doesn't cause many sleepness nights, luckily we live in a flat so our only worries are rabbit & cupboards full of chemicals related.

Another ratty non-sleeping baby here. DS is getting his 7th tooth through, the upside is he should have them all soon at this rate & we'll not have to deal with his grumpiness much longer. seven, you can't get liquid Anbesol anymore!! sad
And he's started waking up for a night feed so I've had to up his food during the day, baby eats almost as much as me!
DH is on mad shifts atm so have no idea what day of the year it is, was about to ask everyone what they're doing for the weekend!

Good luck with all the weight loss everyone!
I'm just under pre-pregnancy weight, but very unfit atm (I miss being able to lift decent weights!) may I join the weightloss thread?

<starts brewing industrial strength coffee, in the Dec 11 pot, for all the parents of grumpybutts>

Oi Wow check BOi out & his stair climbing abilities. Sky's not quite mastered the art of crawling forward so not worried about stairs for now.

Watching Beth Tweddle at the moment.

AF arrived yesterday and I've got sodding cramps and headache - not good when you have a 7yr old to entertain and 7 month old who gets frustrated because she can't crawl forward lol!

Still 11 days to go grin

hawthers Mon 06-Aug-12 15:38:17

I've got some anbesol here - has it been outlawed?!

aethelfleda Mon 06-Aug-12 16:47:13

hawthers, a quick google brings it up as alternately "discontinued" versus "productiOn problems" versus "scary rare health risk from the benzocaine in it"(but that was on an American pro-homeopathy site so I am a bit hmm about the genuineness of such a claim) . If you want a very similar product try Calgel which has an almost identical local anaesthetic in the gel. personally I found that Ibuprofen given just before the last bottle seems to work for the first 6-8 hours of the night by whivh time they probably would have woken anyway. It's not meant to be given long term but nightly for 3-5 nights should be enough to get them past a teething bout.

Am chuffed today: went back to library with the DDs (trying to walk where possible for the old exercise thing), and found my favourite baby recipe book for 10p in the sale rack! Too tight to buy it specially, but I was happy to see it again and especially recommend it to all you baby led weaning types (honey it's written by a vegetarian so almost all the recipes are meatfree). "Finger Food for Babies and Toddlers" by Jennie maizels. Breadsticks are cooling on the rack as I speak....

link here

aethelfleda Mon 06-Aug-12 16:48:53

(ahem, I mean too tight to spend £8 on it, but 10p did nicely!!

<puts the kettle back on for more coffee for the troops>

mopsytop Mon 06-Aug-12 17:05:28

No AF for the wedding DSM on the plus side!

Lunch out, had salmon and beetroot salad which was yum but literally a few bits of smoked salmon, beetroot slices and foam/purée fancy stuff, shavings of cucumber. But excellent for start of dieting!

Baba crying again. It's like she senses when I'm on munched, more later I hope!

Figgygal Mon 06-Aug-12 18:33:56

Oh what a mad day informed of flat tyre at work followed by a very precarious drive to nearest garage as like a horrible stereotype I've no idea what to do to change it myself. Find massive piece of metal in said tyre so new one required which would be fine of hadn't just shelled out £170 to go home for weekend in November. Then Danny arrives home with a mortified cm who informs me he decided to pick a fight with her floor......with his face sad he's got a black eye and we had to fill in an accident form. He's fine waving and shuffling and laughing like a loon wish he had t just thrown up on the bloody sofa though .......it just soaks right in!!

Oi am v impressed with boos stair climbing that's amazing can u attribute anything u doing with him as to why/how he's so mobile?

aethelfleda Mon 06-Aug-12 19:12:42

sad that your DH is feeling down seven, Hope the work stress improves soon.

That actually sounds rather yummy mopsy!

and sympathies for figgyboy's face. Don'y worry, there will be many mor such incidents. I still cherish an accident report sent home from DD1's reception year entitled "Walked Into A Tree".....

OiMissus Mon 06-Aug-12 19:57:30

Oh dear! A black eye! Aw! Poor figgyboy. sad
I'd like to say that BOi's mobility is due to something we've done, but no, I can't think of anything. He just can't stay still.
We didn't buy a jumperoo or anything. And we really didn't do that much tummy time.

Seven Sorry to see your DH is feeling down. Hopefully he picks up soon.

Mopsy Your right that's def a plus. Brought the guest book today and arranged with my mum, sis, MIL, SIL, BF to have dinner on night before wedding as all the blokes are doing something too! grin

Figgy hope Figgyboy isn't to traumatised and is okay.

Both girls are in bed. Cakes made & decorated. Now time to chill with a cuppa & Olympics on tv in peace as DP is out.

LittleMissFlustered Mon 06-Aug-12 20:08:05

My wldesr's finest school injury was 'falling off a soft shape' and necessitated a jaunt to A&E... Got to love the ingenious ways they manage to imperil themselves.

The best injury I had was breaking my ankle whilst doing judo - wasn't even at grading or competition it was in training - doh! grin

aethelfleda Mon 06-Aug-12 22:10:07

<Banbury>. Only just got DS to settle down, have an enormous pile of washing staring at me, another load to put out, bottles to do, haven't done the windowsil/skirting boards (though at least that can wait).
Does anyone have a spare TARDIS?

Figgygal Tue 07-Aug-12 07:04:58

Gah been up since 5.30 I think my body clock has adjusted to the last week of 5.30 wake ups. Lo didn't wake until 5.45 had bottle and change (no nappy leakage for first time in a week) but kept doing cot gymnastics which meant he lost flat ted and as soon as he realises he's crying for him have been back into him 4 times to return said bear so he can go to sleep chewing it's feet. Now I'm up he's asleep and prob will be until after I go to work sad

KateM77 Tue 07-Aug-12 07:24:08

On my way to the Olympics again. This time just me and DH going to see athletics.

DH has some time off work at the moment, so we took the DC's to wicksteed park. Had a lovely day, and it was so nice to take them somewhere I used to go as a child myself.Also got some one on one time with DD at home to do some 'art' with glue, glitter etc. which I rarely get a chance to do normally.

Kate Have a fab day at Olympics smile

We had good sleepers here. Sky slept from 7:30 - 5:30 couple of oz's woke at 7:30 now gone back to sleep at 8:15 smile

Question those of you who are using bottles when will you stop sterilising?

Oh yeah 10 days to go grin

OiMissus Tue 07-Aug-12 08:48:28

another horrid night here.
This time I tried to give him some nurofen, but the syringes just make him scream. so he didn't get any. I'm going to look for one of those dummy things that you can put medicine in.
Why don't they make tasteless medicine that you could mix in the milk. (Or do they?)
It was a v v v restless night again. He screamed at bonjela too. DH eventually took him into another room at 5 so I could try for another hour's sleep. But then I think geese had flown to the pondy thing nearby as there was much squawking going on. yawn!
There's a job going in the internal sales dept where I work. It might suit DH. It'll be another job that is going nowhere (development/career-wise), but it'll be a wage. We won't need to buy another car, or pay additional petrol - that's a huge bonus. But it will be weird having him sit outside my office...
We met here. He was the UK IT manager. It might be weird for him to come back in a different position.
I asked the guy in charge about it this morning. He really likes DH and didn't want him to leave. He doesn't see any conflict/problem with us being married. I said if they are looking for someone who is really a salesman, who will inject new verve and salesmanship into the (order-processing) team, then DH is not your man. But DH installed the software, and is more than capable of processing orders...
(sorry - wittering on - I'm using this post to evaluate my thoughts...)
You know what, it might not be bad at all! At first I wasn't keen. Mainly because I'd like him to earn more (we don't need more money, I'm not being greedy, it was just to take the burden off me - not that it's a burden, but you know what I mean - it would give us a bit more safety, or choices when no. 2 happens) but it could be good. This is where we fell in love. grin
10 days dsm!!!

hawthers Tue 07-Aug-12 08:54:37

oi we used to put DS1's medicine in a teat of a bottle if that makes sense. So put the teat in his mouth so he is sucking and then inject the medicine into the teat. You could always follow it up with a syringe full of milk? Think that is what they do in the neonatal unit too for older babies.

We gave neurofen before bed and he still woke at 3. Hmm not sure what to do now

Medicine Dummy for Oi, you can get them in Boots. It's amazing!
How does BOi take teething powders? After a few days of going 'ahhh, ahh' & opening my mouth, DS now copies (even when Hulk style angry) so I have a chance to get the powder in.

DSM, we stopped sterilising at 4 months, didn't see the point of continuing once we'd started feeding him people food.
Any last minute wedding-y things you still have to do?

Oi was going to say Teetha teething powders or medicine dummy is the only other thing I can think of tbh.

AWCH yeah thought it was time to stop now Sky is 7months, almost crawling and eats everything in sight lol.

RE wedding, all I need to do is print to post box, guest book & candy buffet sign & decorate. Also wrap all the gifts. Neil better appreciate his lol grin other than that it's just the logistics of making sure we've got everything boxed to go to hotel, money to pay for things on the day and just need to pick up the suits and my dress. that's it smile

OiMissus Tue 07-Aug-12 10:19:23

Medicine dummy - or bottle teat it is - I have quite a few smaller bottles I no longer use. That may work.
Teetha powder is different. I lick my finger and rub his gums. Tis like catnip. He loves it.
I don't sterilise bottles. I just wash and dry carefully. He puts everything in his mouth now so there's really no point!

mopsytop Tue 07-Aug-12 10:29:11

I still sterilise bottles purely because formula is a breeding ground for bacteria and so I'd rather be extra careful. I just stick the (very thoroughly) washed bottles in Milton so it's not like it's a hassle. But I don't bother sterilising anything else. We had a good night yay! Just hung out washing and planning a long walk but it looks like it's about to lash grrrr

aethelfleda Tue 07-Aug-12 11:09:02

I still sterilise bottles, but that's cos I make up batches every night for the next day, just add the right amount of boiling water to each and then use Avent three part dispensers to store the measured formula til it's needed. I don't bother with the mixing at 90 degrees thing cos our LO's have an active immune system now (and prove it by eating gribble at every opportunity). But teats and bottles can grow bacteria easily in milk residue (powdered milk is used as culture media in many science labs) so until he's one his bottles that I've made in advance will be well washed and sterilised. The exception is when we occasionally need a quick top up bottle when I'll take a clean bottle and use tap water.

Sorry the neurofen didn't do the trick hawthers! it's always beenagic cure-all juice for my three.

Looking forward to DH getting home sunday: he skyped the kids yesterday afternoon, and they loved it: DS thought it was very funny seeimg daddy in the computer (he was completely confused by a previous audio-only phone call). And the really scary thing is he's tryimg to pull to standing....aaargh!

Figgygal Tue 07-Aug-12 13:00:52

I am still sterilising we have a microwave one so just stick the bottles and teats in it once we have them washed, it can be on while the kettle is boiling and they can both cool down at the same time. I guess because it is a well practised routine we will continue for a while longer.

Looking forward to the cycling tonight but not sure will be home from work in time i think pendleton is on at 5.25 and chris hoy at 6, i would usually have just left early to watch them but with the flat tyre yesterday and site visit 45 mins in the opposite direction down the motorway this afternoon cant see it happening. I didnt get to see DS this morning before i went to work as he had settled back into deep sleep and didnt have heart to wake him....missing him today.

Oh and just wanted to say how sad i feel about gary barlow and his wife's news about their little girl......very sad!!

mopsytop Tue 07-Aug-12 13:14:21

God it's awful. I can't imagine the heartbreak of a stillbirth.

I chanced hanging out the laundry and going for my long walk. I'm soaked and had to put the laundry back in the machine to respin as it's so wet. Doh! But at least I got my walk in and minimopsy got a nice long nap in her little rain cocoon buggy.

OiMissus Tue 07-Aug-12 14:00:27

Awful, awful news. Did the pg go full term?
I can't bear to think about how they must be feeling.

OiMissus Tue 07-Aug-12 14:07:06

Yes- the full 40 weeks. Heartbreaking. sad

BJR Tue 07-Aug-12 14:10:56

<waves to thread>

Hi all, i'm back from spending a relaxing week and a half with family and am now back at work. DS has done his first half day in nursery today and i'm feeling a bit unsure about my choice of nursery but will leave it for a few weeks to see how it settles.

All getting close now DSM very exciting smile. I stopped sterilising at 6 months, mainly as the steriliser happened to break at that point!

We are also having very restless nights, I find them ok to cope with when co-sleeping as I can soothe him as soon as he stirs but when he's in his cot I don't think I wake quick enough for him to settle straight back down.

It's awful about Gary B's little girl, Poppy, poor family.

Feeling slightly sorry for myself; I've only got one filling but I had to have it replaced this afternoon (after 20 years!). I've not had any work done since that old filling, barring braces but that's not really comparable, and I was NOT a good dental patient as a kid.
My dentist told my Mum he needed a stiff G&T after treating me, I was so bad blush
So, to summarise: epidural and C-section, gimme, gimme and show me the way so I can skip to surgery, filling replaced, my trousers are damp with sweat.
But handled it OK in the end grin!

<waves back>
Hello BJR, glad to see you back and sounding relaxed. What's making you unsure about the nursery, just a feeling or something that's happened/you've been told?

We get DS Skyping his Grannies most weekends aethel, I think it's great! And our little man is doing the same- he's trying to crawl and pull himself up at the same time, so is very mobile but not in any sort of smooth action iyswim confused

We're still sterilising DSM, but only on the grounds that we only run the dishwasher every couple of days and it's easier to just do the microwave steriliser. And it's all getting very exciting, can't believe it's next week!

How's his black eye looking figgy?

And did anyone else see the first advert for the new series of Dr Who?! Whoooooooooooooooop!

BJR Tue 07-Aug-12 17:39:13

It's mostly a going back to work wobble I think. Just got to keep telling myself its only day one and its going to be strange. Also need to remind the nursery that i'm happy for them to let him feed himself and i'm not bothered if he doesn't eat much. Then hopefully I won't be met with a screaming baby that the staff were entusiastically pushing spoons at as he tried to get away sad

Glad you managed to survive the filling replacement!

anairofhopeFORGOLD Tue 07-Aug-12 17:46:00

Hope has two bottom teeth and i think the top one is coming. She keeps biteing my nipple at the end of each feed and smiling im not impressed lol

i have a chest infection and have started antibiotics.

Air had his MMR injection today ready for school.

Its hard work having both kids home and being ill.

CherryBlossom27 Tue 07-Aug-12 18:02:24

Hi all,

I'm still sterilising bottles, but I'm not sterilising anything else e.g. cups, spoons, bowls etc. one of the HV's said to continue sterilising until the baby is 12 months old. I've got a Philips Avent Microwave steriliser, so it's very easy to sterilise the bottles after washing them up.

Figgy hope LO's bruise is better soon!

I don't know what has happened but I'mso emotional after having DS, I cried when Jessica Ennis won gold, burst into tears when Dh's little sister cried, and you can imagine I had a good cry for Gary Barlow and his wife's baby. I can't even start to imagine what that must be like. Puts DS and his teething issues into perspective that's for sure. I am so thankful DS is healthy and happy, really that is all that is important.

Air hope you're feeling better soon! At least you're on antibiotics now so they will help.

Northern Well Done for being brave at the dentist. Now if only I could find the courage to go! smile

Air Hope you feel better soon and biotics kick in soon.

Well Done Sir Chris Hoy & The GB Dressage team.

Got a throat full of razor blades & mouth ulcer on back right side of my tongue sad DP said their is a throat infection going around - best not of bloody caught it and if I have it best of shifted by next week!

Re Gary Barlow and his wife's loss. I can't even imagine how they are feeling. Makes me thankful I have to beautiful and healthy children x

OiMissus Tue 07-Aug-12 19:10:33

I feel bad about not sterilising now. In a vague attempt at defence, I'm only using ready made formula because I am a lazy arse.
Well done for dentistry. I need to make an appt now BOi has teeth. I want advice. It's gonna be tough teaching a LO to brush. I hate toothpaste, I hate the sight of foam, it makes me retch. sad
I used to not like the dentists at all, but now I have a nice one. (but I still haven't visited him in 2 yrs. it's 20 miles away.)
Hope the ab's kick in soon air.
We are all so incredibly lucky.

LittleMissFlustered Tue 07-Aug-12 19:13:09

Flying through, just want today that VP was robbed.

Yep, again. Ridiculous.

Your DS is the total spoon refuser then BJR? Hope you settle back in at work OK, it's a wobbly time but lots of us have gone through it.

Don't feel bad Oi, most of us are only doing it for convenience! My DM is horrified by the lack of sterilising I do, as DS munches, dribbles and investigates his way through life grin. Bottles are the only thing I bother with as I am a slattern as I believe in the 'get some good germs down yeh, helps wi' immunity, like' school of thought. Some stuff goes in the dishwasher, some gets wiped, and most some gets just left....

Thanks all- tooth feels weird and rough because of all the new filling stuff in it. Will gingerly eat my soup for tea, and try to Mum up!

Heavens DSM, AF and a throat infection, you must be feeling off it...really hope everything shifts for the wedding, that would be so unfair.

Don't worry Cherry, I'll join you with the buckets of tears and tissues post baby. It's so weird, isn't it, just finding yourself welling up uncontrollably over everything and anything?

Northern I know AF will of shifted by weekend so that a plus. Just not a good time for a throat infection. I can barely talk my throat is so sore and swollen sad

Whilst eating dinner earlier on (chicken casserole, rice & extra veg) Sky helped herself off DP plate to some Courgette and she loved it. So much do she tried to help herself to a bit if chicken & rice lol.

Sky's asleep. Darcie's in her room sitting watching HSM. DP is downstairs working, I'm in bed with a hot cup of tea watching 'lympics.

MissRee Tue 07-Aug-12 20:18:23

Got home so late tonight that I didn't even get to kiss Freya goodnight sad

Have been skim reading - hope all the poorly peeps feel better and bumpy babies are on the mend.

Is it the Olympics MissRee or is it just the nature of the journey? That's rotten though, poor you sad

MissRee Tue 07-Aug-12 21:06:43

The lights were broken at Blackwall Tunnel apparently. I got on the coach at 5.30 and walked in the door at 7.45! Funnily enough the traffic has been great during the Olympics - it's only been taking 50 minutes to get home most days!

On sterilising, we only do freya's bottles now because of the bacteria risk with the formula.

seven77 Tue 07-Aug-12 21:51:38

I still sterilise but only because I make them in advance and keep in the fridge. If I was making them fresh or using cartons I probably wouldn't bother. Mothercare sell bottles you can sterilise in the microwave (ie without needing a steriliser), once DS was only having a couple of bottles a day we just used one of those and chucked the steriliser.

dsm not long now, are you nervous or just excited? What a rotten time to be ill though, hope you shift it soon, and that you're better soon too air.

missree ((hug)), that sucks.

Hope you had a great time at the Olympics kate. I booked tickets this morning for the Paralympic wheelchair basketball, only £15 each! I also booked a hotel room so we can go down the day before. DH doesn't know yet, I might keep it a surprise, we didn't really do anything for his 40th as Eva was only 3 months old.

Good day here, we had beef stew and done foot paintings in the garden.

OiMissus Tue 07-Aug-12 22:16:06

Oh we should throw a virtual hen night for dsm! We should pick one evening -tomorrow or Thursday perhaps, - and open a thread for us to post fun advice before she ties the knot. grin

Kitty5824 Tue 07-Aug-12 22:21:51

Kate I live less than half a mile from Wicksteed Park!

LittleMissFlustered Tue 07-Aug-12 22:27:27

Some arse rough a souped-up hair dryer jut went screaming past my house and woke Octoboy up. There are no words.

OiMissus Tue 07-Aug-12 23:09:34

I bet it had: two white stripes over it's roof (male driver), playboy bunny stickers (female driver).

aethelfleda Tue 07-Aug-12 23:31:08

Don't forget tasteful strip uv under-lifghting. It's probably a Corsa with the exhaust sawn off. Saddos.

Figgygal Wed 08-Aug-12 07:20:47

Excellent work we had a 6.30 wake up and no nappy leakage......that's good in this house.

OiMissus Wed 08-Aug-12 07:31:21

Well done figgyboy!
No change here, I'm afraid. A restless night, followed by a 3:40 screaming wake up. I tried giving nurofen in an old bottle teat (as advised) in the middle of a milk feed, that went really well. Thanks seven. ( i think it was seven who has just saved me a couple of quid as I don't have to buy medicine-dummies.) But it didn't really settle him, he was awake and restless for ages. Knackered again this morning.
Tonight I'll try to give it during his 11pm feed, and see if that takes us any longer into the night.
I hope tonight is a nice night, my weight is creeping up so I'm thinking of getting BOi in his jimjams, getting him snug in his pram and taking him for a march up the street before dinner. We'll see.

Seven I'm nervous & excited at the same time smile

Oi A virtual Hen party sounds fab! Hope BOi turns a corner soon tho.

Well Done to Figgyboy for overnight grin

LMF Bunch of idiots. They don't even look 'cool'. Hope you got Octoboy back to sleep ok.

Well a very good friend of mine found our her partner has been cheating on her and is not even sorry sad so today will be rallying around her and help her with getting free of him.

LittleMissFlustered Wed 08-Aug-12 08:29:25

Souped up hair dryer was a moped of some sort. They fiddle with them so they scream really loudlysad

Dreadful night. No teeth tht Ivan see, but doesn't mean there aren't any about:/

Going to try to take the horde out for the day. We're suffering cabin fever so a jaunt is in order. it's looking like York or the seaside.

LittleMissFlustered Wed 08-Aug-12 08:32:04

Cross posts DSM. I've been that person, hope she's ok in the long runsad

OiMissus Wed 08-Aug-12 08:51:34

Tis a fine day for a jaunt lmf, thers blue skies in Lankyshire, hope t'sun is shining over't t'otherside o't'pennines. grin

OiMissus Wed 08-Aug-12 09:06:29

The Virtual Hen Partyis here! Come and post a friendly warning for dsm!

Marked my place grin

KateM77 Wed 08-Aug-12 09:49:10

Had a great time thanks seven. Fantastic that you got tickets and hotel, I bet the wheelchair basketball will be amazing to watch.

I thought you were over that way now kitty, lovely to have that on your doorstep. I couldn't believe the boat thing that slides down the hill and goes splash at the bottom was still there. It was DD's favourite!

<brews up vat of strong coffee>

Up 3 times in the night with DS. Had been hoping for a quiet day today as DD is at nursery, but BIL and FIL arrived last night for a couple of nights. DH only told me on Sunday that they were coming.

8 month check with HV today for DS.

OiMissus Wed 08-Aug-12 12:52:24

Grrr! Notes from the HV - curtesy of the NHS PCT - still go to my old, old address. So I have missed notices about immunistaion and invitations to baby massage. Luckily I have this thread to let me know what to expect so I can check with the GPs about important stuff... I contacted the NHS PCT about our change of address and got a silly note "What do you want us to do? What are you telling us for" (errr, because you're sending me stuff to the wrong address!). they said, your GP will inform everyone who needs to know. Well evidently not!
Called GP (again) about this. Surgery says, oh yes, we make the notification and everyone will know. I know this is not the case, as it didn't work last time... maybe you could ring the clinic.
Just rang the clinic. They new nothing about the changes of address and confirm that no one tells them anything and that they rely on the mums to inform them. I'm not the first to miss important notifications. They are now sending Ali's details to my new area clinic, and they will organise the 8mth check.
Grrrr! <walks away shaking head and muttering something about it being a bit bad when the NHS can't tell it's ar$e from its elbow>

MissRee Wed 08-Aug-12 12:55:18

Ha! I had my own NHS frustrations yesterday too, Oi! I've been waiting for referrals for me (ultrasound scan) and Freya (paed about her Tongue tie) to be told that F's hadn't gone through properly and mine hadn't even been done!!! 6 weeks we've been waiting already sad

OiMissus Wed 08-Aug-12 12:58:05

they new nothing... ho-de-ho .. Knew, sorry. curtesy, immunistaion etc.
Looks like the NHS are not the only imbeciles. (...Maybe they've only had one cup of coffee today also.)

seven77 Wed 08-Aug-12 18:50:23

oi I can't take the credit, I think it was hawthers.

missree that's awful, good job you chased it up.

dsm sorry about your friend, I hope she's ok and can see that she's better without him.

DH has finally started laying the new floor in the dining room! We've been to the library and a friends house trying to stay out of the way. We've got our valuation for the mortgage tomorrow, so much tidying to do once the DC's are in bed!

I'd forgotten about the 8 month check, not heard anything yet so I'll chase it up.

KateM77 Wed 08-Aug-12 19:35:28

8 month check was fine, and I like the new bookstart bag and books. DD 'helped' me read them to DS tonight.

Hope the tidying and valuation goes well seven

GeeandTee Wed 08-Aug-12 19:37:56

Not heard anything about an 8 month check here either, but then I never go to HV clinic. What does it involve?

DS has decided to start potty training and we had two wees and two poos on the potty/toilet today. He still wants to keep his nappy on though. Is that a good idea? I'm tempted to be totally led by him on this as don't want to pressurise and not sure if his bladder control is good enough yet, or should I buy him pants and go cold turkey?

Its not an ideal time as we go on holiday in 2 weeks and I don't fancy having to carry a potty/spare clothes around everywhere! Or is he likely to be fully dry before then? I am all a bit confused by it!

Oh Bob, my DP does that as well Kate. His family would 'announce' they were coming to visit in a few days' time, and he'd generally let me know that day, although sometimes a little while later.... I'm sure his family think I'm the one being funny, but in my book people agree to visit together, rather than unilaterally stating that it will happen.
Drives me mad, though it happens far less now.

Hope you got a good day's jaunt LMF, York or the seaside sounds lovely. We used to call those idiot teenagers on mopeds lot 'bee in a matchbox', because it sounded so whiney and angry, yet so pathetic at the same time. Sorry to hear that you'd been on the receiving end of some crappy behaviour, hope time and the DCs have made you feel a bit better (hug).

We had the forms arrive for DS's nursery today, wibble, so we'll have to get those sorted and sent off, and the money arranged, etc. All the little things he needs, the wellies, the photo, slippers. We get the settling in sessions too, and I've booked the week off work before he starts, a) so we can have some time together as a family, and b) to get the settling in days that week so he gets used to it.
How has time gone so fast, HOW?!!

Off to join the daftness on the DSM Virtual Hen Party thread! grin

Figgygal Wed 08-Aug-12 19:48:00

Another one thinking "8month check"???? Must see if we need to book 1

Fajitas for tea yum!!

KateM77 Wed 08-Aug-12 19:57:59

I think it varies depending on where you are. The red book has it as a 12 month check, but HV's here do 8 months instead. They got on touch with me to book it. They just talk through developmental stuff, take some measurements and give youa bookstart bag. Have to make appt to see GP too.

Love the stair climbing video on FB...what a clever BOi!!

northern the most irritating thing is DH can't understand why I get annoyed to be told rather than asked, given no notice, and when we already have a busy week including my mum staying the night before. Much bed changing involved. Oh, and DH went to play squash last night too, so I had to do it all angry

Best stay away from the hen party...I may not give good advice right now!

aethelfleda Wed 08-Aug-12 20:14:10

<brace of haddock inna box> for your DH and family kate, that's eeally annoying!

Fear not northern, t'will be OK at nursery I'm sure even if it does cPst an arm and a leg . BJR how's your little one doing, are things settling down a bit as you all get used to the chang in routine? (gulp, I need to arrange a settling in sesh with the CM soon. that is going to be weird.)

We don't have 8 month checks over here: they weren't picking up things so have been discontinued in favour of some info in the red book and the general catchall of "if you're worried talk to your HV/GP".

We have 12 month checks here. However, am going to get Little Lady weighed tomorrow so might find out differently!

My friend is still in massive shock but taking it well with plenty of help from friends & family thanks smile

anairofhopeFORGOLD Wed 08-Aug-12 20:31:28

Omg Hope nappy has burst. We have gel crsytles all over the bed sleepsuit and baby. We had to hover them up and put Hope in shower.

It was a size 3 nappy. The excma gel destroys the nappy a bit but this has never happen before sad

Im thinking about getting cloth nappies now as the disposable just completly fell apart!

aethelfleda Wed 08-Aug-12 20:34:22

Most of the mums who've mentioned it seem to be in size 4's...
Happy to chat cloth offlist if you really are thinking of it, otherwise go up a size!

anairofhopeFORGOLD Wed 08-Aug-12 20:34:27

Also she has been sleeping alot for the last two days i have no idea if she is coming down with something or is having a growth spurt!

anairofhopeFORGOLD Wed 08-Aug-12 20:38:59

I only have one question about cloth nappies: do they leak or get damp at night? I would only use them at night and Hope sleeps thru so i dont want to wake her to change the nappy but her skin is sensative to liquid so it would have to keep the wee off her skin.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Wed 08-Aug-12 20:41:45

Damp on the outside i mean!

anairofhopeFORGOLD Wed 08-Aug-12 20:47:15

I think i would only need three and i can wash each morning withnormal wash and dry them on radiaters so its ok if they get oily from the gel. They would need to be 100% cotton.

The ones i have looked at have poppers on so they grow with child. I just need to sell the idea to dh cos he thinks £14 for one nappy is expensive.

i think i could buy one to see if it works and if so tgen get more.

air, Tesco sell 'maxi' ultra dry nappies, DS leaks through the regular disposables (size 4) at night but the maxi one's are fantastic.
I don't use cloth nappies as night as they're really only good for 1 or 2 hours, even with the liner (not sure if boys wee more than girls but DS seems to love it).
<haddock> for everyone Kate!

BOi looked lovely climbing the stairs! DS just stares at the ones he comes across and then ignores.

Is it sad that I'm really looking forward to potentially getting a bookstart bag? Hurrah for books!

I've got to book myself in with GP, my PMT is 100x worse than it was before pregnancy (is it hormonal?), if we weren't ttc#2 atm I would ask for a hystrectomy...any tips on what to ask for drug wise?

Little Lady said her first word - Dada sad DP is grinning from ear to ear!

OiMissus Wed 08-Aug-12 20:59:53

air I bought bamboo nappies, and a whole plethora of liners. I didn't like how wet the nappies were, even after only 1-2 hours, so I gave up. I have a full "system" of bamboozle Stretchies that are unused. I will get around to selling them one day!
If you want to try one, pm me, and I'll pop one in the post next week.
(off to Denmark tomorrow - I really should go and get my bag ready...!)

MissRee Wed 08-Aug-12 21:11:27

We have one bambino Mio that was a bounty offer freebie. I've only ever put it on her when she's done huge poops and I need to put something on her whilst I run her bath (and nappy free isn't convenient). I can't really see how well it would wash as it's an all in one type nappy and the fleecy liner thing isn't removable, it just pops out of it's hole and hangs there confused

Freya's word of the week seems to be "blah blah blah" I'm sure it's cos she listens to mummy going blah blah blah all day grin

anairofhopeFORGOLD Wed 08-Aug-12 21:12:21

If they are wet after 1 - 2 hours thats not great sad

anairofhopeFORGOLD Wed 08-Aug-12 21:15:21

Hope just screams "a a a a a a" then giggles when Aaron turns up hmm

MissRee Wed 08-Aug-12 21:18:06

Do you think she's trying to say his name or just random noise Air?

BJR Wed 08-Aug-12 21:18:37

Well done to sky on the Dada and i'm sure she will follow it with Mama soon DSM

Don't think we have 8 month checks here either, not sure though.

DS was a bit more settled today, thanks for asking Aethel. Tooth number 5 had cut yesterday which probably wasn't helping matters when they were trying to feed him. Can feel another 3 coming through too, poor boy!

Well done for Boi and his stair climbing, I'm always suprised by how quick our babies are all growing.

DP suprised me by coming home from work early so he could put DS to bed while I had a nice relaxing bath, and then he cooked me dinner. It's really nice how much more confident he is with DS now. I'm out for a friends 30th on Saturday and I think it will be the first time that i'm confident that DP won't get stressed out by looking after DS on his own.

'Mamama' is what DS says to me when he wants me, 'mamamamamax100' is his crying sound which makes it even more upsetting sad
I'm pretty sure he said 'burp' yesterday, typical bloke.

I'm not sure about execma gel but they recommend you don't use nappy rash cream with the cloth nappies air as it stops them being effective.
It's why we don't use them that much atm, think I'll use them more when we start toilet training next year.

BJR Wed 08-Aug-12 21:21:18

Ah thats really cute Air sounds like she knows her big brothers name. Anytime I try to encourage DS to say anything I just get a big grin and Dada in return!

BJR That's nice of your DH grin

I think Sky has cut her bottom 2 teeth but not 100% convinced! hmm

anairofhopeFORGOLD Wed 08-Aug-12 21:25:47

I think she is saying his name. He gets the best smiles and giggles. She crawls around after him and checks if he is in our room when she wakes.

It also sound like she said "yes" and "mum" and "dada" but i know it could just be conisedance and soon she will repeatedly say dadadada lol

it doesnt help that Aaron just roars or screams back at her!

aethelfleda Wed 08-Aug-12 21:29:40

air, the reuseable nappies have a waterproof outer (it's called a "wrap), usually made of breathable plastic called PUL. This must NEVER be dried on a radiator or it will melt!!!: but most PUL wraps will dry in an hour hung on an airer.
The inner cotton/bamboo part of the nappy is what actually catches the wee: some makes have a polyester "staydry" layer and it does keep baby a lot drier if you can cope with the fact it's not 100% fibre. Also using disposable paper liners like littlelamb liners can make the nappy less wet feeling on the inside.

DS goes into his night nappy from 6.30pm to about 5am when he wakes, I use a Motherease Onesize Staydry plus a Staydry popper booster and a microfibre booster tucked under the booster (which in theory holds over a pint of wee). We use motherease Airflow (popper) wraps on the top and a bit of sudacrem. Not had any issues with leaks, nappy rash or nappy detatchment! However if you buy all those new a set will
Be £10 nappy & 2.50 booster & 2.00 microfibre & £9 wrap. You can buy almost all of those components "preloved" for about half the price but they really do work. Pm me if you'd like.

BJR Wed 08-Aug-12 21:34:48

DS is the same with his big brother Air, DSS always gets the biggest smiles which he loves. DS also rarely stays still but will sit and watch his brother play for ages. It's lovely to see as DSS used to worry that DS wouldn't remember him as they only see each other at weekends, but its quite clear as soon as DSS comes in that he knows exactly who he is grin

anairofhopeFORGOLD Wed 08-Aug-12 21:51:09

BJR that is really cute smile

Aaron will not leave Hope alone. He is always wanting to play with her or bath her or help change her nappy or feed her!

He is so ready to start school. He went to chester zoo with his cousin and ever since he wants to call him on the phone or go see him and said "i want my friend" or "me go to my friend home?".

It will be nice to spend the afternoons with Hope on my own as well smile

Re: nappy could you post a link to online shop to buy the night nappy? I have showen the post to dh and we are going to give it a go smile

anairofhopeFORGOLD Wed 08-Aug-12 21:55:19

But im not getting the paper liner as the gel is so oilyit would not work! I think its the cloth booster that i looked at getting and the cloth nappy with poppers on!

I would really like a recommented wedsite to buy it from as there is so meny on internet!


aethelfleda Wed 08-Aug-12 22:19:14

Right, this place has a sale on Motherease at the mo!

link to clean nappy machine

you want one motherease Airflow Wrap (get a Large if hope is 20lb as it has more growing room than the medium/large. My DS is still in his mediums and m/l but he's younger and skinny!)

You then want one Motherease Onesize Staydry (look down the list) and get two staydry boosters (one can tuck under the other, it saves you buying a microfibre one). Just line them up so that all the staydry layers are closest to her bum! Good luck with it (darn, I want some more of those if they're on sale! Restraint!!!)

seven77 Wed 08-Aug-12 23:15:30

AWCH do you use your library? Ours is great for kids and had loads of board books for babies.

BJR what a lovely treat from your DH, can you get him to talk to mine? grin and 5 teeth! Yet another amazing way in which all of our babies are so different.

Eva says mama, dada, baba and I'm pretty certain the other day she said handbag hmm.

Kitty5824 Thu 09-Aug-12 00:14:10

A lovely stranger knocked on our door about 40 mins ago asking if we had a cat.

It looks like my gorgeous girl-cat Kyla was hit by a car. They'd spotted her fitting in the road. She's black with white paws, neck ruffle and belly so a good spot in the dark.

DH went and got her, she's obviously taken some trauma to the head. She was warm but floppy when he bought her in. Not breathing though. sad

She'd just started sleeping on our bed again at night now that Seb is in his own room. DH fed the cats before he went to work. I'd often wake up to find her asleep on my belly.

I'm so thankful the stranger knocked on our door though, and that we didn't find her tomorrow morning, or worse she just went missing.

Our boy-cat is very confused by all the attention he is suddenly getting after 7 and a bit months.....

seven77 Thu 09-Aug-12 05:38:59

Sorry kitty sad

aethelfleda Thu 09-Aug-12 06:44:05

Really sorry to hear that kitty (((hug))) . sad

<banbury> at this end: after DD repeat "visiting" with various excuses re:not being able to sleep, DS neede repositioning
at midnight (he shuffles himself into a cot corner sometimes
And wedges his head in the corner which wakes him up) then i had DD2 bedsharing after a dream and them DS decided
4 am was the morning (la la la la la raspberries). Gave him an extra 4'am bottle just to get a bit more sleep. He is now up again and full of the joys of something, bless him.
It's just a bit noisy and I'm hung over from dsm's virtual hen party.

<fetches the largest mug of tea known to man and turns on the coffee pump>

Figgygal Thu 09-Aug-12 07:03:19

Sorry to hear that kitty sad

Ds is in bed with dh playing with his v annoying noisy frog decided sleep was for wimps this morning.

Ds makes all sorts of noises but thats as far as it goes i think, no teeth, no crawling he is clearly happy being a baby grin

Last day at work today for weekend yay!!

GeeandTee Thu 09-Aug-12 07:10:40

Very sorry to hear that Kitty sad I am still mourning the loss of my cat of 16 years. He died 2 years ago but whenever I visit my parents I still expect him to be there sad

On good news, just one wake up at 3am and one of my boobs was about to explode out of my armpit so I was actually grateful that she woke up!

We're visiting a children's farm today. Just have to pack up all the paraphrenalia that comes with 2 DC and hope that I can find somewhere to feed DD tthat is nice and quiet. She is SO distractable and if there is stuff going on nearby she will literally come off every few seconds to look around while I spray her face with milk and flash my nipple at everyone hmm

Sorry to hear that Kitty

Well both girl's are still asleep, only reason I'm awake is because I needed the loo!

OiMissus Thu 09-Aug-12 09:36:01

kitty ((((hugs)))) so sorry to hear that. sadsadsad

OiMissus Thu 09-Aug-12 09:39:11

Another banbury night chez Oi. He slept til 0340, so that's slightly better. But he still needs a feed, and is hard to settle after.
I'm in the airport now, DH is going shopping for a monitor.
It's time to change the routine BOi's getting into. We're going for radical change.
Operation nursery is starting soon. I think we'll paint it this weekend and get everything moving. smile

BJR Thu 09-Aug-12 10:01:53

Sorry to hear that Kitty more hugs from this direction.

Not too great a night here. DS was very sniffly and seemed to have decided that he was only going to sleep if I was holding him. Lots of waking and taking ages to re-settle.

Good luck with the change of routine Oi, I should start trying to get DS into the habit of sleeping in his cot all of the time but I always end up going for the easy option at 3am and he nearly always ends up in my bed at the moment.

Sorry to here about Kyla Kitty (((hugs))) I've been there myself as I lost my little girl-cat the same way sad

Kitty5824 Thu 09-Aug-12 11:53:12

Thanks everyone.

In happier news DS had his last bottle at 11.30 (woken by the knock on the door sad) and went through till 6.

And I lost another 1.5lbs.

So we're going to the pub tonight for tea. We were going anyway, but it will now serve as Kyla's wake after we bury her in the back garden. I've never had big pets before. Is this normal? DH seems to think so.

This is slightly complicated by the fact that I don't want to bury her in the back garden here a) it's not our house and b) our cats are being terrorised by the other neighbourhood cats who already consider it to be there territory.

So we need to try to get hold of our tennents so go and bury her in our back garden. Good job we rent to our neice, her boyf and our nephew. wink

Off to water the pot of lavender as I think we're going to plant it over her.

Kitty5824 Thu 09-Aug-12 11:54:08

Ahem, DSM number of days please.

Oi Hope the break of routine works. Sky settled better & started sleeping thru night once in her own room. Hope your trip to Denmark is okay smile

Oops sorry Kitty

8 days & 9 sleeps to go grin

Kitty Hope you bury Kyla somewhere nice in the garden smile

Garden is normal kitty ours are under a tree at the bottom of our garden with engraved pebbles for headstones as my MIL's cuts slate signs. It's nice to know they're there. smile

Well done on the weight loss btw.

Figgygal Thu 09-Aug-12 19:37:26

DS room is 24 degrees he's gone to bed in just a bodysuit and thin blanket I expect a disastrous nights sleep without his trusty sleeping bag.......slinking back out to prepare confused

kitty, sorry to here you've lost Kyla. As you've never done it before please make sure you bury her very, very deep (and possibly in something), we've had foxes dig up pets before.
You could alternatively have her cremated (we had this done with our last, very dear to us, bunny).
Well done on the weight loss.

Oi, good luck with operation reclaim bedroom. DS is moving onto his mattress in the spare room in September, may have to be earlier as he is currently attempting the climb out of the cot...long night ahead here.

Figgy, Ds has been in just a nappy and a thin sleeping bag since the weather got hot, sleeping bag is amazing as it slows the crawling/climbing. Good luck!

GeeandTee, love children's farms! Hope you had a great day?

<puts on the nightshifters coffee>

Oh that's really sad kitty, so sorry to hear that, and how kind of the stranger to try to find her owner. We've buried all ours (hamsters then chinchillas) in back gardens round the country. Hope the wake at the pub went well.

DS is really, really vocal when he wants to be, but there's nothing even approaching a word in there. Lots of squawks, yells, raspberries, babble, etc, but nowt remotely resembling a word...tbf, I think he's doing 'babababababa' but it'll be a while til we get anything more grin

That's brilliant news re. the sleeping Gee, really hope it continues!

I think that's what gets me as well Kate; it's not only an intrusion, but the amount of work that needs doing to prepare for guests especially when they're neurotically clean but their child, your DP, is Stig of the Dump is an effort when you work full time.
I'm currently having a big chuck out, as my Aunt and Uncle are visiting next weekend. DP hoards something rotten, and so I've filled three black bin bags of crud already, as it's bin night and it can all go. Bring on the big clean next week: bet you're dead jealous of my plans aren't you DSM grin!!

We're just fingers crossed on DP's application to reduce his hours; if that doesn't work out, he will not want to go back, and it'll be hard to convince him otherwise...

Rocco says dadadadadada all the time sometimes just dada but it's not directed at DP so it doesn't count grin Pretty sure his first word will be cat as he makes a kah sound when he sees them that's different to the usual babbling & he sometimes makes a gud sound when he sees the dog confused

Rocco's not been asleep long, he was wide & giggling so we came down to watch the 200m then he started yawning so maybe he's just a Usain Bolt fan hmm AMAZING race!!! He napped brilliantly this morning, possibly due to the heat? He's been in nothing but a nappy to sleep for months but he sleeps between us & he's always been a hot baby. I'm hoping he sleeps well tonight as I'm in agony after a trip to the orthodontist today & I don't want to be woken sad Counting the minutes until I can take more painkillers.

Northern I love a big clean grin

Gee I hope the good sleeping continues.

Sky's been asleep since 8:15 and hoping that's it for the night now. Darcie is in bed hopefully asleep now tho, as she was watching HSM again

More wedding stuff packed into boxes for the hotel so we are getting there. Woohoo grin

Honey Hope Rocco sleeps well tonight for you. Is he in his own room yet?

aethelfleda Thu 09-Aug-12 22:20:55

Uuuurgh, I am so looking forward to getting DH back on Sunday to help relieve my Banburyness. LMF you have my utmost admiration for wrangling three all the time....

<collapses in heap while pointedly ignoring the pile of washing-up>

OiMissus Thu 09-Aug-12 22:36:21

Well done on surviving without DH aethel, it must be tough being the only one when you're used to some respite.
I've enjoyed the few nights without DH, when it's just been me n BOi. Everything remains calm and in sync. BUT that's just with one child. On the odd night. So lmf, scooby and. aethel, you have my respect.
I had the most amazing sushi tonight.if there is something that Copenhagen does well,... Fantastic. Guilt-free deliciousness!!! Nom nom nom!

seven77 Thu 09-Aug-12 23:26:05

Hope Denmark is treating you well oi, sounds better than Germany!

kitty I hope that burying Kyla went ok, well done on the great weight loss.

aethel glad that DH is home soon, agreed I have no idea how anyone manages alone, hats off to LMF.

honey hope he sleeps ok.

The floor got almost finished yesterday, and the skirting bards will be done next week. It looks amazing. The valuation went ok, he said he couldn't see any reason why it wouldn't be valued at the price we said. We have loads of jobs that need doing but we've decided that with the spare 25k we're converting the garage into a new kitchen. We have a 4 bedroom house but currently the kitchen is a box!

DS is poorly sad. His temp was 38.4 this morning. Despite nurofen and calpol it reached 39, he's been sleepy and miserable all day. Dr said bring him in later, 30 minutes before he perked up and temp dropped to 37.9 so I didn't take him. By bedtime it was back to 38.5 and he was feeling rough again, he's asleep now but very hot and unsettled. Think it may be a bad night.

seven77 Thu 09-Aug-12 23:29:05

northern I hope DH application is approved.

Quick question for aethel or anyone else. After an early mc do periods normally start straight away again? If so I'm late confused

aethelfleda Fri 10-Aug-12 05:39:55

Early morning feed [m]...

seven it is quite normal for a delay from a few weeks to a few months in the first period returning after a MC, whether early or late. Think of it as a kind of reset notification, the first AF confirming mentally "good to go now". It's an old wives tale that you should wait for AF before TTC again, but if you do it may make dating timings a bit easier and some ladies feel better psychOlogically if they know they have restarted ovulating. Amd keep taking that folic acid! !

Aethel Well Done on surviving and hope DH arrival is soon smile Being a previous single parent I know how hard it is.

Oi Your Sushi looked delish last night envy hope your trip home is okay.

Seven hope DS is better soon. The house sounds like its coming along well smile

Both girl's are still asleep. Not a lot happening here today - park maybe...that's it tho.

mopsytop Fri 10-Aug-12 07:04:20

Sorry to hear about kyla kitty and well done on the weight loss.
Good work on the cleaning northern, must clean the bathroom myself as mil coming today. Working from home so can do at lunchtime.

Nearly there aethel! It must have felt like a long 2 weeks. We have had several full nights of sleep in a row yippee!

GeeandTee Fri 10-Aug-12 07:04:28

Screaming every hour from midnight then up at 5am sad it makes no sense, absolutely nothing has changed from the last few nights when she only woke once. Fed up sad

Northern Nothing like a big clean to brighten the day smile I need to give my bathroom a once over and get the Hoover & polish out but feel awful - sodding sore throat. Can't even talk properly sad

Gee No advice really as never had that problem. I think maybe see your GP as she could be suffering reflux or something x

seven77 Fri 10-Aug-12 08:59:32

Sorry gee, sending caffeine vibes your way.

Thanks aethel. We can't ttc again until the end of the month to avoid me being due (based on the previous 2 prem births) on or before marathon weekend!

dsm you need to be taking it easy and getting better before the wedding!

DS is a bit better today. He says he feels ok but temp still up, calpol seems to working to bring it down today though. I'm trying to make him just take it easy today.

Gee, we have the same baby, he was a nightmare from midnight, kept on waking up screaming but didn't want anything...I'm so worried that later on he'll inherit my insomnia & we'll never get a full nights sleep from him.
We're going to try putting him in his room tonight, I'll sleep with him on his bed for tonight/however long it takes as maybe hearing us moving about is waking him, IYSWIM?

Aethel, well done! DH does the night stuff here so when he works nights I can't sleep as I'm terrified I won't wake up when DS needs me.

AF got me, if anyone of you were actively trying for a baby (we weren't!) is there anything you did differently to get your DC?

AWCH I charted my temp, cervical mucus (tmi sorry blush) & cervix position to get pregnant with DS & got pregnant the second month trying. smile

Rocco didn't have a great night, very restless, cried a few times sad I'm such a wuss; I'm used to sleeping through even though he's still feeding hourly(?) as we're bedsharing so I feel pretty rough. He's been grumpy all morning & has with great effort just squeezed out a small hard poo. We were out for a few hours yesterday & he was on my back so he didn't nurse as much as usual, I guess he's a bit dehydrated, but he nursed loads overnight confused. He's so miserable today, keeps screaming for no obvious reason, I hope he has his morning soon >_<

CherryBlossom27 Fri 10-Aug-12 10:56:09

Hi everyone,

Excited my 15 minute meal ideas is on discussions of the day smile

I've made a meal plan for the weeks as we're going food shopping tonight. DS is grumpy from 5-7pm really so if I can sort out dinners I will be much less stressy! I have a good feeling that next week will be a lot easier.

I've got the autumn surestart program and much more seems to be going on which is good for me & DS.

Quick question for those who have gone back to work - can I add my holiday accumulated for this year to the end of my maternity leave?

Way to go Cherry grin

AWCH I have an app on my iPhone that tracks AF called iPeriod. Told me roughly when I am due to ovulate and we tried..ahem..a lot over 5 days and fell first month of trying wink

iPeriod grin love it! You must be pretty regular for that to work though dsm I had a short luteal phase so the usual apps etc put my ovulation day 4 -5 days earlier than it was sad

seven hope your ds is feeling better.

well done Cherry...I'll go have a read smile

Thanks for the tips Honey & DSM!
My AF has gone stupidly long since DS, 34 day cycle now, but we've been <tmi> having sex every other day (almost) since the 6wk check-up and it's not worked so far, so we're looking at trying anything, think we'll try charting this month!

Still waiting for DS's morning nap here too HLC, we've got hard small poos, even though I practically poured the channel down his throat last night in water. When DH is back on normal shifts post-paralympics he's going to try a routine with DS, I'm a wuss with his crying too (esp. when he's going 'mamama'), hope your day gets easier!

Cherry, glad you've found some activities for you & DS!
Our surestart centres seem to be populated by women who want to discuss nothing but how wonderful pushchairs are, so I'm holding out for a decent 1'oclock club or something in the new year!
Will have to have a read of your thread! We stick to shop bought gnocchi or baked potatoes midweek as they're easy so some inspiration would be great!

Honey My period arrives every 28 days on the spot. I ovulate early - I get a pain when I ovulate - so I work around the window on the app and we fell first month with Sky smile

CherryBlossom27 Fri 10-Aug-12 11:30:32

Gnocchi & baked potatoes will be on the list for the following week AWCH grin I think if I can get 5-7pm sorted I will be less stressy so much better as a mum! I used to spend ages cooking as I'm really slow and tend to stick everything in one pot e.g. chilli or things that are easy but take ages like cottage pie.

On the TTC bit DH and I just stopped using contraception and said we'd see what happened. I got pregnant on honeymoon smile Was so funny watching everyone count backwards to figure out when I'd conceived! I hope everyone TTC now has good luck!

Argh! I'm still missing being pregnant sad

Ooooh, I'm one of the 1 in 5 women who get ovulation pain too, aren't we lucky hmm Well, it helps with ttc at least smile Saw a pregnant friend the over day & she looked amazing...I miss my bump!

AWCH hw do you get so much water in him? Are you bfing, sorry I can't remember...this is the first time I wished DS would take a bottle as I think he could really do with some water & he's more interested in the cup than what's in it >_<

GeeandTee Fri 10-Aug-12 12:31:00

Well I decided to go cold turkey on the potty training so we bought DS some pants yesterday. He was adamant he wanted green ones and I was a bit worried that when we got to the shop there wouldn't be any but we were in luck for once! We've only had one accident so far and that was when he watching tv while I got dinner ready and we all know that (in general) the male of the species can only concentrate on one thing at a time ;) is it possible he will be fully trained by the time we get on a plane next week?!

GeeandTee Fri 10-Aug-12 12:32:40

HLC what back-carrying sling do you use? And I assume you can get it on by yourself? DD is 21lbs now and although I love my moby I have a few back problems and she's just starting to feel a bit too heavy for front carrying.

I use a woven gee feeling very pleased with myself as I've just got the hang of back carrying with a size 2 wrap (only 2.7m) which I found quite hard. Longer wraps are easier to start with. I also have a connecta (a soft structured carrier) but I'm mainly a wrap girl smile I do get him up & it on myself, takes practice but it gets easier. Are you in the fb group. I used my 2 yesterday & got him wrapped without a mirror in a car park, I can post a pic if you like? I've done it loads with longer wraps but you've got more leeway if one pass isn't tight enough you've always got the next one iyswim? If you want to talk carriers & not hog the board, feel free to pm me smile

Honey Can you use he moby carrying on the back?

Love my man loads, he's upgraded our arrival on our honeymoon - so instead of coach transfer we are having a helicopter transfer instead grin

No dsm it is not safe to use stretchy wraps on your back; exceptions to the rule are hybrid wraps like "je porte mon bebe"

Heli ride sounds amazing smile

Don't think I mentioned in any of my catch-ups; I joined a Natural Parenting & Slingmeet group on fb a couple of months ago & have somehow ended up as admin for the group confused, we have monthly meets at parks, cafes, beaches, Eden project but have no indoor premises so I'm trying to get one of the Surestart centres on board before winter. Also hoping to start a sling library so I'm keeping very busy!

Honey What material wrap do you recommend for back?

GeeandTee Fri 10-Aug-12 14:43:14

HLC I'm not on fb and would love to see a pic if you have time to put one up. I am wondering about getting one before we go on hols next week but haven't left myself much time!

dsm lucky you! Although I am v scared of helicopters so have told DH never to make me go on one!

Wow, that's a question & a half. So many different brands, fabrics & patterns. I started with a cotton guaze which I still use as it's lovely & thin for summer but they can be quite diggy on your shoulders if you don't wrap right, bamboo is lovely & soft but heavier, wool mixes are great for winter, linen makes a wrap stronger & better for carrying heavy babies or even toddlers.

I've got a really good link somewhere about wraps, hang on I'll try to find it smile

It takes a while to get the hang of back wrapping gee so I'd probably go for a soft structured carrier (like a connecta or r&r like kitty has)or a mei tai for your holiday. Give me a shout on fb & I'll add you to the for sale or trade group, buying preloved will be cheaper & if you don't love it you can always sell it when you get back.

Honey So many to choose from. Which brands to you have, that I can wear on my back that is similar to my moby?

Ooo 7days & 8 sleeps to go grin

Tagged you on fb dsm you can back carry with any woven but it depends on your personal preference & how much you're willing to pay wink You're in luck though, Southampton has a sling library www.southamptonslingmeet.com/library/

Gee I misread your post & added a load of pics to fb group for you Doh! I'll add them to my profile instead smile

Ok Gee You should be able to see them now & if you want to buy preloved you can try this site: naturalmamas.co.uk/forum/index.php

Figgygal Fri 10-Aug-12 17:48:52

Lovely sunny afternoon to you ladies

We've been out to the national arboretum for a walk and picnic with workmate and her lo who is 2wks younger than DS. She's still off on mat leave lucky lady then this afternoon a teacher friend came round with her 3yr old and we sat in garden for a chat. Find it hate to cram everything into 1 day off in the week.

On the TTc front we waited until I turned 30 as wanted to be able to have a full bday blow out, that was last January was very casual about it all and was pg mid march

Kitty5824 Fri 10-Aug-12 18:20:44

TTC: we'd been not trying NOT to get pregnant for a while (i.e. no contraceptives!) and decided we didn't want a December baby so would not try for a month........clearly planning not our strong point!!!!

Honey I'm off to a sling meet on Monday that I only found out about on fb so thanks for adding me to the group. I've also arranged to play with some wraps whilst I'm there smile

I've got a slingmeet on Monday too smile They're lots of fun.

GeeandTee Fri 10-Aug-12 19:35:31

HLC thank you SO much for the pics. I love the look of the wrap ones but I think you're right the connecta would probably be the best bet for now. Will check out that forum. Thank you!

We did bugger all about ttc (barring stopping the pill, obv wink), and didn't even think about avoiding a December baby... I was convinced, given my family history, that it would be a miracle if I got pregnant (and more of one if I stayed pregnant) so was truly gobsmacked when it took one cycle, and badabing, DS arrived 9 months later!
Have you tried the 'getting really drunk whilst thinking I'd better not conceive now, hic' method AWCH - it worked for one of our family friends with IVF!
<slaps own wrist for naughty and unhelpful suggestion>

That's really WOW DSM! Where are you going on honeymoon? I'd love a heli ride, sounds fantastic. I'm actually off to a wedding tomorrow- it is a self-described I hasten to add, chav wedding, where the bride is very pregnant and assures us there will be a fight amongst the rellies. I don't know her, but am going along as the +1 of my friend confused

Good luck to Captain Green Pants Gee, but so sorry you had a crap night. Hopefully overall it's heading in the right direction?

You do know you're MN royalty once that happens Cherry, we'll all have to bow to you now!

Did your bathroom get scrubbed in honour of MIL mopsy? The chuck out was very successful here, and now we'll spend the week doing the spring cleaning: I'll leave a list of things for DP to do, seeing as he's at home, and I'll do the garden this weekend and bits and bobs during the week: I shall dust! The skirting boards will be cleaned! Glass and mirrors may even be polished!

Soooo glad it's the weekend, and the Charity Shield on Sunday too grin

hawthers Fri 10-Aug-12 20:26:18

We just did very very carefully timed by me unbeknownst to DH shagging blush and were incredibly fortunate to get pg at once.

GeeandTee Fri 10-Aug-12 20:26:25

No accidents for Captain Green Pants today smile not bad for first full day of potty training!

I think I may be about to spend some money on slings...

TTC DS took ages and included lots of charting, getting stressed etc. TTC DD took 3 months after stopping bfeeding (and getting period back) and a long lazy Sunday morning (sorry TMI!!)

Look forward to hearing the chav wedding report.

dsm are you going to post photos?!

OiMissus Fri 10-Aug-12 20:37:23

cherry you can add your holidays to the end of your mat leave, and any bank holidays you missed. - I didn't know about this, but one of the girls on my team did. She submitted her coming back to work plan, and then the wage payers looked back... I'm getting an extra 3 days pay this month for the 3 bank holidays over Christmas!! Yippee!

OiMissus Fri 10-Aug-12 20:41:15

As for ttc, I gave up the pill in October and started using condoms until after the weddink. Got married mid November. Did not do any charting or anything - in that 4 months I only had 2 periods. But, after cadgillions of years in the pill, and being 38, I thought 4 mths was good going.

mopsytop Fri 10-Aug-12 20:50:20

Yes Northern, clean bathroom here!

AWCH, I have no advice, I'm afraid... I got pref after a week of trying (I know, ridiculous, I come from a crazy fertile family, we all seem to get pregnant at the drop of a hat - v glad I was always do v careful about contraception in my 20s!!). My body told me I think the day of implantation- my boobs went from a B to a DD overnight on I think day 14 of so of my cycle. Literally overnight. We had only stopped using contraception 10 days earlier! I didn't believe it of course, I thought it couldn't be possible, but it was! I hoe it's as easy next time. But I had a horrible pregnancy ugh. Not sure I can go through it again really. Need more time for the awfulness to fade...

DSM and Honey, I too get horrible Mittelschmerz. It's so painful but only lasts a day.

MissRee Fri 10-Aug-12 20:53:08

Ahhh TTC... I only fell pregnant because I had a laser light show and lots of chopping and drilling done in my (inside) ladybits grin I had been told for almost 10 years previous that I'd never fall pregnant without IVF!

Northern & Mopsy Nice to see you have good clean scrubbed houses grin

Honey thanks for all your fab sling/wrap info & muffin recipe today smile

Gee I will add photos in her as well as FB.

Was treated out to dinner up our local Wetherspoons tonight and a couple of friends met us too. Darcie is at nanny's so just had Sky who was good as gold. Home to chill now x

mopsy envy My mum is crazy fertile so I wished some of it would rub off on me!
So interesting to hear what a varied bunch we are...MissRee glad it all worked out alright in the end, I get all emotional when I hear of people who've gone through the mill trying for a baby.
My only RL experience of a couple needing assistance ttc are on their 9th IVF attempt (unexplained infertility), no pregnancies sad

Honey aka WrapGoddess, all your posting has gotten my spending fingers excited..must buy wraps.. grin
You asked a few pages back about getting DS to drink water, he's ff but we've given him a sippy cup of water everyday since he was 4 months old, I just leave it on the floor for him to go for, pretend to drink from it (he's a food thief) or if he's thirsty he does a goldfish pouting action at me.

Northen, sounds like you're in for a great day tomorrow!
DSM, helicopter sounds, urm, scary (I hate heights) hope you enjoy it though...sounds like you & stbDH are getting on alot better recently? Yay!

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend!
DS is off to PIL on Sunday night, I'm going up on the Wednesday so looking forward to that time alone (and missing him loads).

mopsytop Fri 10-Aug-12 22:08:52

Yeah AWCH, I know I am so so lucky!! I felt like my horrible pregnancy was a payback for the ease with which I got pregnant, iyswim.

I remember you saying about how they'd got all NASA-stylee on your ovaries MissRee, with an extremely cute result grin
And yes mopsy, being one of three and your Mum having six under six (if I remember right?) it sounds like you only need to look in your OH's direction and you'd be up-duffed!

I will report back from tomorrow's excitement; Bob alone knows what will happen but fingers crossed it passes off peacefully.

And good luck to Captain Green Pants smile

By the way Oi, were you still on mat leave over Easter, as of course you'd get those BHs too? Owing to the time I was off I've ended up with about seven extra days, because of Xmas, Easter/May day bank hols and the Jubilee.

Figgygal Fri 10-Aug-12 23:03:37

Bloody hell a neighbour is having a do of some kind lots of talking, music, laughing inconsiderate bastards (why wasnt i invited ? grin) at least DS room at other side of house.

Not like I can close window with this heat.
Dh at pub with chums I've just perved over Thor .......again. He's gonna be pissed off if this noise doesn't stop he hates noise at night very light sleeper I can usually sleep thru anything. Annoying me I can't see which house it is am soooo nosey

aethelfleda Sat 11-Aug-12 05:13:37

<yawns and puts coffee on>.

it is not morning yet. Got that, DS?

Sky is still asleep and not one wake up grin
Northern We are heading to St Lucia on honeymoon. smile

GeeandTee Sat 11-Aug-12 07:40:09

Slightly better night as she didn't wake until 2am, had a feed but then woke again at 6am and was up for the day. I only ended up with 5 hrs though as didn't sleep very well. DH has put me back to bed now though so will see if I can get any more sleep and not worry about how he is coping with them both and DS's potty training! I know I just need to leave him to it but not always easy...

HLC I have gone for a Boba 2G, new in the end as have left it a bit late and want to make sure its here before we leave. I did the hard sell to DH last night thinking I would have to convince him, he took one look and said we should buy two! I said we should wait and at least try it out first. I think he likes the idea of us striding up mountains with DD in the Moby and DS in the Boba smile

7 sleeps to go....

...that is all grin

That's great Gee I've heard good things about the Boba but if you don't get on with it don't give up, different ssc's suit different body types apparently. Did you check the size before you ordered? Most important thing is that LO should be supported knee to knee. Shouldn't be an issue with the Boba but I thought I'd mention it as I think someone mentioned the Beco Gemini yesterday (here or on fb?) & I know someone with a leggy 9 month old who has outgrown hers shock although they're supposed to go to 35lbs!

GeeandTee Sat 11-Aug-12 12:05:20

Thanks HLC one of the reasons I chose it is because it is meant to fit all sizes/body shapes, and as I'm quite slim and DH is 6'3" and with ridiculously broad shoulders it is definitely a concern! And yes it has high back support and puts knees above hips, also has little stirrup leg rests for toddlers so their legs aren't hanging all the time. So excited! Have to wait 2-3 working days!

Just got a bit excited when I saw an email from the national lottery subject "news about your ticket" so I logged into my account with butterflies in my tummy...seriously how amazing would it be if I'd won the £148 million jackpot grin...& I've won £2.90!!!

Figgygal Sat 11-Aug-12 14:54:59

Just been out for lunch with old workmates and ds decided he didnt want his jar of veg id brought with me he wanted my chicken breast, luckily it was very large and thick and so i could pull chunks out of the middle that were without sauce and he was chomping on them. At least he wont need much for tea smile

seven77 Sat 11-Aug-12 16:15:18

honey have you decided what to do with your fortune yet? grin

Banbury here. Stupidly didn't go to bed until 1 as DH worked last night. DS suddenly felt poorly again and was awake from 2 until 3.30 when DH went to sleep on his bedroom floor. Up at 5.30 with Eva. Still, chicken provençal in the slow cooker, now about to put the bread maker on to go with it.

Today has been fun hmm Rocco had a 1 hour morning nap after 1hr20 of screaming because he couldn't get to sleep sad no afternoon nap & has generally been a bit of a nightmare. He's just gone to sleep for the night I guess confused he's not slept this early since he was a newborn, is he going to get me up at 5am?

In other news he must be stealth crawling [because I put him on his mat in the middle of the room, turned my back for 1 minute max & he was cruising along the sofa grin He keeps trying to stand on his own, pushing himself back off things so I think we're skipping crawling & going straight to walking. Oh dear!

seven I bought myself a new wrap today but I don't think the big win will quite cover it grin It's a really limited one though, that I could sell for 3 times the price if I wanted (but I won't) so that's kind of like winning a prize, right?

Figgygal Sat 11-Aug-12 19:54:28

HLC sounds like my DS has been hard work today, he cried at lunch as he wanted mine, he's refusing to sit down keeps arching back and planting feet and for weeks whinged every time hes been put on back, front, had his nappy changed, today its been very wearing not sure of its the heat or my AF but I did have to get dh to take him for a bit tonight as he got to me. Funnily enough the only time he's been quiet today has been when we went for a walk and he actually sat in his pushchair for half an hour and DIDN'T cry...... That's 2 days in a row!!

Off to have a glass of wine now

Sounds exactly like Rocco figgy is it the heat or their age confused he's been insisting on doing headstands while bfing, screams if I try to cradle him, screams if I try to feed him lying down except when he's got his bum in the air & is performing gymnastics >_< Maybe we've been watching the olympics too much? He didn't stay asleep, woke after half an hour bouncing off the walls so I got him up for an hour of whinging sad I'm exhausted & very frazzled.

aethelfleda Sat 11-Aug-12 21:03:54

There's something in the air...DS was very unsettle after dinner today and took a full hour to settle after his feed (usually 5 mins of cuddles and he's asleep/conked). He's drinbling like crazy though, where ARE those teeth?!?!

Dinner was unexpectedly well received by all DCs: homemade sushi (we made baby friendly nori rolls, with tuna mayo, smoked salmon, and avocado, and cucumber with cheddar cheese filling. Nom.) must remember to do that more often, it doesn't take much longer than sandwiches if I remember to pre-cook the rice.

Going to get DH tomorrow am- woo hoo! Am watching the diving (phoarr, nice young men eye candy!) with the really-must-finish-skirting-board imp nagging in my ear. Oh well!

LittleMissFlustered Sat 11-Aug-12 21:27:51

Octoboy has been a prat bit awkward today too. Refused his bedtime feed and shouted himself to sleep instead.

Enjoy getting your husband back tomorrow aethel

Figgygal Sat 11-Aug-12 21:30:38

Watching the diving now have def calmed down hoping for a good nights sleep. Feel so guilty when my patience goes blaming the AF hormones!!

LittleMissFlustered Sun 12-Aug-12 03:45:38


He slept from 9-3, not bad!


Aethel Enjoy having DH back.

Hope all babies have settled down now and are happier today?!

Went to my cousins wedding yesterday. Twas okay...bit boring tho...and they didn't have enough food to feed everybody! Instead of sit down meal was hot buffet but not enough food for the number of people! They had a small sweet table. Again not enough there for everyone.
She looked lovely tho. (from family who don't like me btw) DP & I will be showing them what a good wedding looks like on Saturday grin

DP has taken DD1 to cinema this morning to watch Ice Age 4 for daddy:daughter time.

LittleMissFlustered Sun 12-Aug-12 11:44:39

Perhaps the food quantities can be put down to caterer rather than couple? I've been to weddings where there has been a buffet and there's been more than enough to eatsmile

aethelfleda Sun 12-Aug-12 11:59:35

He's back! (and jetlagged, poor soul).
Tea all round, methinks.

Figgygal Sun 12-Aug-12 12:01:22

DS has just done a purple poo that's weird right!! confused

seven77 Sun 12-Aug-12 12:16:49

Glad he's back aethel, enjoy!

figgy how purple? Has he had beetroot?

LMF My sister had buffet for her wedding last year. Said how many people were attending and they calculated how much roughly. Seriously lack of misjudgement on caterers part for 50 people to eat!

Aethel Hope DH is okay? Minus jet lag tho!

Figgy Purple poo? Did Figgyboy eat some beetroot yesterday?

Figgygal Sun 12-Aug-12 12:48:05

No that's what's so weird!!

hmm what did he eat?

LittleMissFlustered Sun 12-Aug-12 13:26:51

I always check for missing wax crayons, but he's a bit young for that >_<

LittleMissFlustered Sun 12-Aug-12 14:32:31

Google suggests it might be due to foods containing oxalic acid figgy. Blueberries, beet, rhubarb and chocolate for instance. Any help?

LittleMissFlustered Sun 12-Aug-12 14:35:45


blackberries, blueberries, raspberries, strawberries, currants, kiwifruit, concord (purple) grapes, figs, tangerines, and plums
Vegetables (see Table 1 for additional information)
spinach, Swiss chard, beet greens, collards, okra, parsley, leeks and quinoa are among the most oxalate-dense vegetables
celery, green beans, rutabagas, and summer squash would be considered moderately dense in oxalates
Nuts and seeds
almonds, cashews, and peanuts
soybeans, tofu and other soy products
wheat bran, wheat germ, quinoa (a vegetable often used like a grain)
cocoa, chocolate, and black tea

Figgygal Sun 12-Aug-12 14:52:14

He did have grapes earlier today and I gave him an egg yesterday which he's only had once before and I didn't notice anything unusual that time. It was very dark purple plum purple colour will see what happens next time he "goes".

Just been out for a walk, found a new local park with lake and baby swings for wee man.

maybe it was a one off strange thing Figgy Kids do these things to you lol!

6 sleeps grin

Ah, Poo-Watch, one of the joys of being a new parent grin! DS's has gone from bf baby (sweetly inoffensive) to weaning (could be used in the field of war) to solids (like an adult's).
Though no multi-coloured ones like some of yours seem to get- didn't your DS have orange or green poo before figgy?

Yesterday was interesting... a miscommunication between me and DP (long story) saw my deep, deep, deep cherry red nail varnish spray itself over a foot of the front room carpet, which is ivory shock. We shouted, blamed each other, he got supplies in, I scrubbed and now it's gone down to 'noticeable' from 'insurance claim'. After an hour he approached me and said we should put it down to a no-blame accident and I agreed...

Wedding was fine, although the number of visible tattoos and thongs sort of compensated for the number of missing teeth. Very sweet actually, and best of all, I got mistaken for my friend's 16 year old daughter!! Left early so I could come home and see to DS, and as a result saw Mo win, which was brilliant.

Hope you enjoy having your DH home aethel, that's lovely!

Just off into the garden to enjoy ten minutes of sunshine whilst DS naps. He's properly mobile now and off crawling, having finally figured out the whole arms and legs jobbie, though managed to fully pull himself up to standing today...why couldn't he have been like his mother and just stayed immobile for 18 months?!

OiMissus Sun 12-Aug-12 16:53:56

Mo was incredible yesterday. Inspirational!

I missed Mo - got home before Tom Daley done his 4th dive tho smile

anairofhopeFORGOLD Sun 12-Aug-12 19:12:17

Fuck i so cant cope right now sad

Figgygal Sun 12-Aug-12 19:40:41

Air hope u r ok?!?

Air What's happening? x

anairofhopeFORGOLD Sun 12-Aug-12 20:18:27

In no order;

I have chest infection still got it after five days of antibiotics. I cant breath. Dh has been sick all day. I have not take kids out so Air is bouncying off walls. He throw tanturm as he didnt want to go tobed he wanted to stay up to play with grandad when he got back from taking daddy to walkin center.

I had to leave air downstair watching dvd when i tried to put Hope in cot. Everytime i walked out of door she would wake up and cry arrrrrr

dh has a kidney infection and was two hours in walkin centre

Hope still not asleep in cot and i still have not had dinner and im so angry and frustrated of just sitting on bed when Hope talks to herself or dozies then wakes up when i cought or her dad being sick.

Also grandparents are ill and on holiday next week so i have no help.

I cant breath and i have to look after a sick disabiled adult, a loopy three yo and a bf 8 month old. I want to cry but i dont have enogh breath to and im too tired.

Then i will have to carry air to bed as he willfall asleep on sofa sad

anairofhopeFORGOLD Sun 12-Aug-12 20:22:00

I also have stress anxiouty and depression that is playing up big time or im getting PMT!

seven77 Sun 12-Aug-12 21:36:40

air (((hug))) firstly do you have any mum friends who could take air to the park for an hour everyday while you're ill so he can burn off some excess energy? Do you have a slow cooker? Bung in meat and veg in the morning and it's done by teatime, failing that could you just live off pasta, pizza and jacket spuds for a few days? Would you consider co-sleeping for a few days so you can get some extra sleep? And lastly if your antibiotics aren't working get yourself back to GP tomorrow to try something else. Hope everyone is better soon x

northern wedding sounds interesting! Oh dear to the carpet.

aethelfleda Sun 12-Aug-12 21:51:10

Oh dear air, i second Seven's suggestions, they are all v sensible. Even if you get half an hour's breathing space it will help. Really really hope things improve and DH gets better soon... Post if it helps xxx

anairofhopeFORGOLD Sun 12-Aug-12 22:03:55

Aaron is now asleep in Hope's cot, Hope is asleep next to me and husband in Aarons bed with the 'sick bowl'

Any bets on who will wake and need me first?

I just want to stop coghing and be able to breath again sad

Goodnight sweet dreams

Seven - i still have two days left of antibiotics so will take them then go back. I really dont want to go into hospital if i can help it sad im really stressed right now.

Figgygal Sun 12-Aug-12 22:54:08

Dh is round his best mates house he's been going through some sort of mental break over the last few months, last time he got called round as an emergency he had tried to throw his wife down the stairs and then rooted through the kitchen drawers for a knife to stab himself with dh went round after a hysterical call and had to sit on him until the mental health team arrived god knows what's going on!! They have a 3yr old It's very scary!!

Air I third Sevens suggestion and hope things improve soon.

Figgy OMG hope your DH is okay tho?! Hope your friend gets the help he needs soon.

We are watching opening ceremony and absolutely brilliant grin

Air ((hug)), if you're anywhere near S.London/Kent DS is away atm so I'm free if you need an extra pair of hands? x Hope you get a good nights sleep. x

Figgy, hope situation with DH's mate is all ok. Having friends going through mental breakdowns is tough. x

Northen, hope the carpet is ok....wedding sounded fun, although disapointed it wasn't EasterEnders-esque, where's a long lost son when you need one?

Figgy, hope the poo is back to normal?

aethel, hurrah for having DH back! Mine has more than one day off this week, hurrah!

DS, as mentioned, is away at PIL atm...I'm going up there on Wednesday, have only spent one night away from him before so this is going to be really hard.

Figgygal Mon 13-Aug-12 07:29:14

Well dh got home at midnight has told his best mate of 30yrs wife to leave him before he hurts her (he hit her last night and she has a black eye). Its very long and complicated but he has been told hes not mentally ill but has psychotic episodes from a med condition that started a few months back, he is a completely different person its complete lunacy. He was throwing things round the house, saying his wife and dh were having an affair, hitting the walls until they got a sleeping tablet in him and dh had to practically carry him upstairs. I think she might go this time her parents live 300miles away though and their 3yr old is just about to start pre school, they've been married 10yrs next month and shes trying to hang on for him but we are all expecting him to kill himself in 1 of those crazy moments.

Am shattered this morning sad

OiMissus Mon 13-Aug-12 07:38:10

Hope you're OK Air?
AWCH tis very nice of you to offer to help out.
This thread is amazing.
figgy hope you're DH came home unscathed.
We had a curry last night and too much wine. I have the breath of beelzebob this morning. ugh!
Great finale to the games. I was in tears when Gary Barlow came on. V brave.
BOi has a horrible spluttery cough. My little snot fiend. sad Tixylix seems to helping a little bit.
DH drove me to work this morning so he can have the car, so I sat in the back with BOi all the way. smile He's really found his tongue this last 2 days. He was chattering all the way. "dadadadadada" and other sounds. He's said dadadada lots yesterday too, but not directed it at daddy yet, so we're not counting it as words. He may have got it before they come and pick me up later.
saw one of my best friends over the weekend. She lives in France. Her dad died very suddenly last week, so she's home. Very sad. He was only 76, and very lively. A really lovely generous and loving man, it's so sad. He'd had a bad chest and had seen the doctor who checked his lungs on Friday and then again on Monday. DR said one of his lungs sounded a bit messy, but insisted the other was clear.
He died of a pulmonary embolism and the pathologist said his lungs were shot to pieces. You can imagine the family are confused, and now think maybe if the dr had not brushed them away so eaily, could he have been saved? very very sad. sad
The funeral is on Friday.

Have a great day y'all.

Air Hope everything gets better this week for you.

AWCH So nice of you to offer to help smile

Figgy Psychotic episodes is MH issues tho, can he not take meds to prevent them? Glad your DH got home okay tho. Shame about your friend.

Both girls are asleep. More cake baking today. As tomorrow Darcie & I are going to see Brave at the cinema smile

anairofhopeFORGOLD Mon 13-Aug-12 07:45:57

Figgygal thats so sad it must by very scary for their three yo sad

Wow everyone made it thru to 7am yay

Thank you for your offer AWomenCalledHourse it was very kind of you smile but in im South Yorks and im sure today will be better hmm

im thinking about sending Air to nursary for the week if today doesnt get better sad

5 sleeps........

That is all grin

anairofhopeFORGOLD Mon 13-Aug-12 08:06:15

Oh dear i just relised Air slept all night in his normal pants cos i forgot to put night time pants on him. And he was dry shock

GeeandTee Mon 13-Aug-12 10:34:49

Well done air!

figgy that sounds very scary. I have a friend whose DH has borderline personality disorder and it has put such a strain on their reltaionship. He gets v angry at her for no reason. Looks like they might get divorced after only a year of marriage.

dsm can't believe it has come round so quickly! I think its lovely that many of us have "known" each other since the very early stages of pregnancy. I remember you talking about your wedding last summer!

Good night here, DD had a quick feed at 1.30am and that was it until DS woke her up at 7.15am. Haven't done anything differently! It is so confusing when some nights she wakes every hour and other nights she is only up once or twice.

Well Done Air smile

Thanks Gee smile I'll upload pictures on her for those of you not on FB.

In 3 sleeps I pick up my dress - so excited grin

LittleMissFlustered Mon 13-Aug-12 18:10:09

Is it bedtime yet?

hawthers Mon 13-Aug-12 18:10:56

Surely its soon?

mopsytop Mon 13-Aug-12 19:13:25

Hi all

V exciting DSM

Hope you're ok air, well done aaron on the super pants.

Minim has tonsillitis. We were in the childrens all day as they needed to check it wasn't another uti. She's so miserable. It's horrible sad

Figgygal Mon 13-Aug-12 19:50:50

Evening all sorry to hear about mini mopsy hope she's ok soon!! That's not nice for such a lo sad

Well she's left him apparently this morning he slammed a door while their 3yo was going thru and she got caught by it she's absolutely fine but that's final straw she's gone to stay with a workmate he doesn't know. All very sad but definitely time if he can't be trusted with lo.

Hoping DS was tired tonight but he cried thru his sweet potato and white fish dinner, I was worried it was too dry but he seemed to take exception the spoon he was happy picking up chunks of potato that I hadn't mashed yet .....I don't want a spoon refuser!! Funnily enough he ate a whole jar of choc and banana pudding so I'm thinking he was just being a moody devil tonight.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Mon 13-Aug-12 20:11:08

Get better soon minimopsy

Sorry about your friend figgy but its for the best if there is a chance that the child could get hurt if they stay sad

Im still ill so is dh but its been a better day today and all children are asleep in bed now.

Im going to have a decaf tea and a rich tea biccy some tablets and off to bed. Have a good night every one xx

Mopsy Hope MiniM is better soon smile

aethelfleda Mon 13-Aug-12 21:06:20

Oh dear for miniM! hope she's better soon.

Glad you had a better day air, hope people are recovering soon.

figgy, that sounds terrifying for your OH's friend's (ex)-partner, she is v sensible to put the welfare of her children first. Surely psychosis is by definition a MH issue? (though as someone mentioned above, borderline personality disordered people can act as if they are psychotic when they aren't technically so). Horrible to go through though especially for the children sad

Children in bed and we're sitting down doing number crunching. Mortgage calculations are scary (especially as my work will be interrupted/unpredictable if we move. Self employment is the best option but it's all too variable for my liking!) Oi, tell me it's all worth the hassle when the new house is finally achieved!!!

Aw, poor little MiniM, tonsillitis is the pits. She must be miserable, and I bet you're not feeling wonderful either mopsy; and so soon after the uti as well. Glad you're feeling and sounding a bit better air; when it all gets on top of you it seems like there's no end to it all, and everyone being ill plus lack of sleep is the double pits sad.

That's awful re your friend's DH figgy, bloody hell. I've encountered a couple of cases where a person's physical illness has lead to all sorts of MH stuff, but when the physical issue was treated the MH issues went- do you think it can be sorted? But she did right to get out, you can't put the LO in danger whatever the reason for her Dad's illness.

DS decided that sleeping was for wimps this afternoon, and so stayed awake from midday to bedtime.....

I'm feeling [grumpy and itchy] I got bitten twice at the weekend; one set of bites have gone flaming red, but aren't too bad; the other set (one on one wrist, two on the other) are very hell itself. They're the nuclear sort that have gone madly swollen in about a three inch diameter, hot, and will NOT STOP ITCHING.
I forgot my stuff for them today <facepalm> but even so: I've taken an anti-histamine, put every type of cream on them you're meant to (and some you're not) bought one of the electric pulse clicky pens, and nothing works. Only temporary relief I can get it freezing cold water over them.

Argh. I'd rather clean the bathroom then visit the dentist confused!!

OiMissus Tue 14-Aug-12 08:01:54

Hope the tonsillitis passes soon. Poor thing!
BOi has a horrible cold. A very wet spluttery, barking cough and some snot-splosions. He just wakes up coughing and gets very upset. sad but he's not so bad thru the day, so he's been packed off to nursery so his dad can start looking for a job and try to do at least a couple of things around the house!
I feel bad leaving him at nursery, but as the girl said "we've all got colds at the moment"...
Moving house is worth it. It's sooooo worth it. But then, I've made a huge change, so we're still pinching ourselves. And we've only done one mortgage payment so far. And DH has lost his job since then! Ask me in 2 months. wink
No. Seriously. This will work. The house is amazing. It makes me very happy. I did all the calculations beforehand. Mortgage, council tax, bills, ( gas, elec, water metered, media) food, nursery, fuel, insurances, holiday saving pot, clothes n treats pot. And I decided we could do it.
So without further ado, I need to do some online clothes shoppi. grin

aethelfleda Tue 14-Aug-12 08:27:25

Thanks oi

<bungs virtual antihistamines at Northern>

dH off to work today and tomorrow then "promises" only a little work from home. He gave baby breakfast today for me so I had a bit of a lie-in: bliss!

I think there are gremlins living in my washing basket. No matter how much I wash, dry, and put away, the washing Just Keeps Coming...

<puts on the monster pot of coffee for all>

Hope all babies feel better soon.

Oi enjoy the online shopping.

Aethel I have one of those washing gremlins so feel your pain lol!

4 sleeps grin

KateM77 Tue 14-Aug-12 10:25:34

Get well soon to all the poorly babies sad

Those washing gremlins must breed like rabbits!

I have resigned from my job. I always planned to, but now it's come I have slightly mixed emotions. I'm definitely going to miss the social side, and the being me rather than just somebody's Mummy, but the logistics mean I'd never see the kids and would have to either get another flat in London or hire a nanny. On the plus side, I get to spend all my time with my two amazing and beautiful children, and know I'm very fortunate to be in the position where I can choose not to go back to work smile. Now I just need to organise some proper leaving drinks - when I finished at the end of Oct I just had a very sober and sedate leaving lunch!

Have had some small breakthroughs with DS over the last week: He started eating breakfast, and now says 'Mum-mum-mum' grin

Figgygal Tue 14-Aug-12 13:45:18

Wow Kate congratulations you lucky lady!! You can always look at other jobs in the future which suit your family situation just think of all the options you have open to you - career change, self employment when you want to pursue them.

Any ideas how i can get ds to sleep a bit longer, for the last 3 weeks he has been waking between 5 and 6, bottle and nappy change and then goes back to bed straight away to anything up to 8.30 so it is like he is doing a night feed but just so close to when i have to get up anyway means that is me then awake for the day. I know i shouldnt moan and its not bothering me but dh struggling with it.

hawthers Tue 14-Aug-12 16:17:27

figgy how about trying wake to sleep? Short term pain might work though. Not done it myself I hasten to add!

aethelfleda Tue 14-Aug-12 16:39:33

Figgy, all three of mine did the 4.30-6am wake up thing and I've never found anything that worked! So if anyone finds a solution please let me know... With us it was just time (and it was always better in the winter months). Hope your DH's best friend settles down a bit soon and that his missus is OK.

Well done Kate a decision like that is always a bit scary to make but as figgy says you have tons of options later on and you will not regret spending time with them when they are little. People will make assumptions when you say you are a SAHM but it's fab if you can afford it and it works for you psychologically.

Today has been a "tire the little blighters out" day. Park in the morning followed by a cafe lunch with unexpected softplay (they had opened one at the back I didn't know about!) followed by trip to local museum (lovely as it was small enough to be fun but not overwhelming). dDs loved it and now chilling back at home. i'm shattered !!!

seven77 Tue 14-Aug-12 18:34:29

Ugh, I feel awful. Temp of 39, dizzy and exhausted. My lovely friend bless her took DS to hers for tea.

Apologies for lack of name checks but hope all poorly LO's are better soon.

KateM77 Tue 14-Aug-12 19:54:26

And you get well soon too seven. Good of your friend to help with DS. It's something that didn't even cross my mind before I had children, but it's so hard when you're ill and have to look after LO's rather than just wallow and feel sorry for yourself!

Hope the DC's are also shattered aethel, it sounds like a busy day

figgy have you tried just offering water and a dummy (if DS has one) and seeing if he'll settle down? That's what I do with DS if he wakes when I deem it too early. It doesn't always work, but he has now slept through until 6.30 the last few mornings

KateM77 Tue 14-Aug-12 21:16:29

And I meant to say, speaking of work/life balance earlier, I hope xiao is ok? Haven't heard from her for a while

MissRee Tue 14-Aug-12 21:45:25

Hope MiniM is on the mend soon Mopsy, DP is very ill with tonsillitis at the moment too - I can't even begin to imagine how awful it must be for a teeny one to have such a horrible illness sad

Feel better soon Seven

It seems the thread has been infected again!

<whips out the BioHaz suits>

OiMissus Tue 14-Aug-12 22:02:54

Well done kate. A big decision, but as others have said, it can open lots of other possibilities and opportunities, so don't scare yourself with thoughts of forever. It's just a new, lovely, exciting phase in your life.
You are incredibly lucky to be able to make that choice.
I wish I had that option. My dream job is on the check out part time at tesco? "would you like any help with your packing? Smile. Have you got a club card? Smile. Cash back?"
I'm a natural. grin

LittleMissFlustered Tue 14-Aug-12 22:04:12

<lurches through dispensing biscuits>

Health visitor tomorrow. Luckily she's nice, as I'm feeling very antisocial at the minute.


LittleMissFlustered Tue 14-Aug-12 22:05:29

I want to be a librarian.

BJR Tue 14-Aug-12 22:15:19

Sending healthy vibes out to all Mummys and Babies!

Day 3 in nursery today, accident form number 2 ... My child seems to be a bit of a hazard! Congrats on resigning from the job Kate. I'm still a bit confused about work, its been ok but I have a sort of sinking feeling that I might not be able to do it. Have been avoiding putting pen to paper and signing my new contract terms as something doesn't feel quite right.

We have had two good nights sleep in a row here, 7 till around 5 both nights first time i've not had to get out of bed several times in the night since he went into his own room around two months ago, feels amazing!

BJR Tue 14-Aug-12 22:20:30

Ah I quite fancy being a librarian too LMF i'd certainly trade my job and spend the day surrounded by books!

Oh great 430-6 is a thing now? And here I was thinking he was just doing something weird for a couple of days sad I am not a morning person sad

Congrats kate full time mumming has to be the most exhausting/rewarding job in the world grin

aethelfleda Wed 15-Aug-12 07:15:24

<pootles in and fires up the cofee pot and tea urn>

<glugs coffee and munches antihistamines>

<dons bio-haz suit>

We do seem to be having one of those periods again, don't we? I feel like pants this morning, woke with a cracking headache like I'd been drinking brandy all night, and unless Diet Vimto's got some new ingredients...

And would you believe it, I've booked off this afternoon to have with my boys, just a nice wander round town as a family, and it's the one time it's going to rain non-stop!

And yes HLC, I'd say it's a thing, babies seem to be early wakers or not, and nothing will shift the little blighters. DS wakes at 6 every day... but it's better than the 5.30 period he went through.

<dashes off to get ready for work>

CherryBlossom27 Wed 15-Aug-12 08:07:27

Morning all,

DS woke us up at 5.30am this morning, he wasn't crying just making sounds so I left him to it until 7.00am. He's upping the solids and had a whole weetabix instead of half this morning for breakfast, plus half a Hipp fruit purée pouch (I joined something on their website and got sent free samples smile). I think we are more or less ready to drop down to 3 bottles a day now:

7am-8am 210ml bottle & cereal + fruit
11am-12pm 210ml bottle & sandwich + fruit
3pm 120ml bottle
5pm dinner
7pm 210ml bottle

I'm cutting down the amount offered at 3pm as he's just not interested at all. Once this bottle has been cut out, I will cut down the lunchtime bottle next. It feels wierd that DS isn't finishing his bottles, I'm so used to him guzzling them down in 10 minutes flat!

Congrats Kate!

mopsytop Wed 15-Aug-12 08:08:01

Thanks all. The past 2 days have been a bit nightmarish-getting the anti-biotic and the calpol in has been a major struggle, never mind trying to get her to drink enough to stat hydrated as she doesn't want to swallow. She had about 7oz all day yesterday and it was hard work. But enough to keep her hydrated at least. She was up most of the night again so we are like zombies after barely any sleep for 3 nights now. But on the plus side she took her calpol and 5oz just now yay! She must be on the mend. How long until they're no longer infectious? Wondering if she cd go to nursery tomorrow. The nurse at the hospital seemed to think not.

seven, sorry you're ill sad

Hope all other poorly babies improve..,

DSM, nearly there!!!

Think we need the hazard suits out again!

3 sleeps.....grin

Sky woke at 7:45 and had her bottle. She'll have breakfast at 9. Day spent indoors today.

Kitty5824 Wed 15-Aug-12 08:41:09

grin DSM

Well done Kate. Once SMP runs out (which must be next month?) I too will be resigning. I currently work for a rather large banking institution beginning with B, ending in Y and rhyming with Shiteleys. They don;t even know I have moved. I could probably transfer, but would have to work in branch which doesn't appeal.

So Tesco/Sainsbury's/Asda/Co-op/Aldi/Lidl for me once all the yooves go back to college/uni in September. Must sort out CV.

Had been lulled into a lovely routine by DS, in bed by 8, bottle at 11.30 (DH) bottle at 6 (me), back to sleep for an hour or so and breakfast at 8.

He is now teething again. Bleugh.

BF has stopped. I think I'm sad. Not planned, we'd been mix feeding for ages and the number of bottles just started to increase, he has refused me every day for two weeks so I guess that is that. I didn't even think to express as we were down to night feeds only. Oh well. I managed 7 months! Not bad considering our very rocky start and the nipple shields which are going to be packed away in case I need them next time.

LittleMissFlustered Wed 15-Aug-12 08:45:15


<goes to lie under the coffee drip>

Kitty5824 Wed 15-Aug-12 09:06:30

Anyone got any baby friendly Rhubarb recipes? I usually just do crumble. but suspect there may be too much sugar involved gringringrin

I love, love, love rhubarb. definitely think it's worth giving them a taste but it contains oxalic(sp?) acid which inhibits iron absorption so I wouldn't feed ds as much of it as I eat (I average at least 3 crumbles a week as I grow it blush) Maybe try mixing stewed rhubarb with cream or yoghurt to make it less sharp?

aethel lady I know is 31wks pregnant & has piles sad she wears her older child in a sling & has read heavy lifting could contribute to them. What do you think? Could babywearing contribute?

Kate I bet that is a lovely feeling knowing you can be full time mummy and not have to deal with the stress of working too.

Honey That's what we do with rhubarb add yoghurt smile

CherryBlossom27 Wed 15-Aug-12 10:24:35

HLC not stalking you this morning I promise! DS is having a nap so I'm on the Internet and being generally lazy grin I think even if your friend wasn't baby wearing she would still be lifting her kid wouldn't she, so I don't think it makes a huge difference. Has she been to the dr? They won't look so she needn't get embarrassed, they'll just give her a prescription. I think I had a mild case after giving birth but the dr gave me some pessaries and that sorted me out really quickly (the indignities of motherhood!).

MissRee Wed 15-Aug-12 10:30:56

Ooooooh how exciting! I've just won a Britax 0+&1 car seat!!!! Shame I'd already bought her new one last week (but not yet fitted it) and got rid of the box! Will wait for it to come and decide which one to sell I think grin

Cherry she's been prescribed xyloproct...is that the same as sheriproct I wonder? but it's not touching them; I suggested she ask for the pessaries too >_<

Congrat MissRee

MissRee Wed 15-Aug-12 11:24:28

Honey I think I had proctosedyl for my post birth bumbobbles grin I had sheriproct too but I can't remember which of the two did the trick in the end hmm

LittleMissFlustered Wed 15-Aug-12 12:43:25



<steals and adds to the 12/11 phrase book>

BJR Wed 15-Aug-12 12:45:32

This is going to sound a bit silly. But should a be worried that DS has just produced a nappy filled with bits of what looks like plastic bag? I am confused about where its come from but could possibly be bits of the plastic aprons the staff wear at his nursery for feeding and changing, figure he may have grabbed on and pulled a bit off.

Is it likely to cause him any problems?

aethelfleda Wed 15-Aug-12 13:01:56

honey it's more likely to be the pregnancy-related changes, "heavy lifting" is more hauling furniture and lifting weights than carrying a child in. supportive wrap I'd have thought: it's imposible to say it has no effect but it's certainly not an association I am aware of. She may find it's temporarily more uncomfy to do the lifting, but paracetamol plus whatever low dose steroid cream does the trick is usually all that's needed and post pregnancy be v careful not to get bunged up.

bjr, are you sure it's actual plastic? What colour is it? Could it be eg grape, tomato or raisin skins? (plastic shreds are inert and will pass straight through as long as they are small. If the staff at nursery have eg bright blue aprons and the bits are blue then maybe a word is needed...)

Just been into my local Asda and picked up huge Ella Kitchen bags of Porridge & loops for breakfasts. bargain 3 for £5 smile

Right ladies. Who's got a Mei tai for back carrying purposes and are they comfortable/any good? x

BeeMyBaby Wed 15-Aug-12 13:53:16

more importantly asda are selling malteasers and minstrels for £1 each, get 4 bags of them and get a free cinema ticket... I got 8 bags giving DH 2 cinema tickets and me lots of chocolate which he can't be mean about me scoffing.

BeeMyBaby Wed 15-Aug-12 13:54:23

I have a mei tai for front and haven't used the back option often (although its very easy and very comfortable) as DD2 has a hair pulling habit.

aethelfleda Wed 15-Aug-12 14:27:40

I'm slowly working my way through a bag of mini Reeces'peanut butter cups that DH brought me home. calorie counting is a PITA but will continue for a bit longer til I get bored. Since stopping BF at least my appetite and tastebuds have gone back to normal.

Though my main peeve at the moment is the hoop-jumping needed to get a coil re-fitted. One family planning clinic only fits them every fortnight and it doesn't take any bookings apart from each Friday, the other place quoted me a minimum 2 week wait for assessment, swabs and fitting with two appointments needed. I understand the checks needed for safe fitting but this is frustrating cos I want it put back in asap, no more babies chez Aethel, please!

Never used a mai tei, sorry (though the SSC - a rose and rebellion one- is great for back carries and I have now learned to put him in myself: it looks hair-raising but feels secure and safe, thanks to youtube tutorials with the v similar bebo carrier.)

hawthers Wed 15-Aug-12 16:55:58

Teething grumps, epic nasty poos and a refusal to eat anything from over here. Fun times.

I'm exhausted.

But f has slept from 8-6.30 for 4 of the last 5 nights. We've done nothing differently - oh arse I've jinxed it again haven't i?

thanks aethel & thanks for the finger foods book recommendation too, got one on ebay & it's fab, just what I needed to inspire me smile

HLC You are the my baby wrap queen thanks grin

Figgygal Wed 15-Aug-12 20:19:23

hawthers we have had epic poos here too luckily after I'd gone to work but dh texted me to tell me about it as it was so bad it ruined his bodysuit and his shorts so they went in bin.

DS had his first taste of beans on toast tonight I bought the reduced sugar and salt ones god they r horribly bland!! He seemed to love them though he was screeching and gurning like a mad thing.

Seen some of the pics on fb today of babies standing, pulling themselves up Danny still happy bum shuffling though he's just gone to bed post bath and story like a very happy dude

Wow, not long to go DSM - are you getting nervous, or excited?

I'd say you're definitely ready to drop it Cherry, especially if he's not so interested any more. It's funny isn't it (sort of same with Kitty)- I think I'd read so much on MN about 'how to get your baby to do X' I sort of wasn't expecting them to do it themselves. And yes, seven months is great grin!

If MiniM is up to it at the weekend, I think you should try and give yourselves a break Mopsy- is there anyone who could take her, or mind her just for a little bit, give you and DH a few hours to watch a crappy film, or sleep or something? You must be shattered, and it must be horrible trying to get all of that into a baby who funnily enough doesn't want any of it...

How're you getting on LMF, what's causing the Banbury? Is Octoboy unwell or not sleeping, or is it just the three-children-over-the-summer-holidays syndrome?

We've had a great day- it didn't rain on us (probably about the only place in the country that didn't) hurrah! Did some shopping, wildly exciting- I got a £10 black cardie for work, put a dress in to be altered, and we bought DS some new onesies for the next size up. And a massive pack of wipes as they were on offer in M'care, less than half price!

The best/worst bit of it though was lunch- we went to Pizza Express at about 3 (delayed for various reasons) and then waited a bloody hour, whilst it was quiet, whilst loads of other people got their food. DS was fine, Bob bless him, but we were disgruntled. Turns out they'd naffed up our order, so we ended up taking a 'spare' pizza home with us for free!

Lunch: pepperoni pizza
Dinner: pepperoni pizza

to be fair, it's their lighter ones (albeit with full fat mozzerella) but still.....!

Oh, and have you noticed that air's got one of the discussions of the day now as well?!

We plebs had better start practising our curtseys for the MN royalty on this thread grin

seven77 Wed 15-Aug-12 20:44:16

I think I have a throat infection. There's a white patch on one side and swallowing is really painful. aethel is that GP worthy or do I just need to give it a few days?

mopsytop Wed 15-Aug-12 21:01:23

seven I have zero medical expertise but I swear by gargling every half hour with salt water (don't swallow it though, obviously!). It really does work in my experience. And dose yourself up with painkillers, they really are effective for sore throats. But no idea re seeing GP. Hope you feel better soon!

Minim went down for the night in her own cot (she slept in with us the past cpl of nights as she was so poorly) and she's asleep so I hope we get a better night. I'm already in bed just to get a few hours in in case she's up all night again. We don't have any rellies here unfortunately northern, and no friends I'd ask at short notice really, cos mostly they don't have kids and she's still a little small I think to be minded by someone with no baby experience (is this me being an over protective mum?) but hopefully we can catch up on sleep abc each get a lie in maybe at the weekend, fingers crossed she sleeps well tonight anyway. She's defs on the mend, she had a good deal more formula today, nowhere near as much as normal but a good bit more than Monday or Tuesday, phew!

Hope everyone gets a good night!!

Ah, we're the same mopsy, it's a pain isn't it? But if you can at least give each other a lie-in at the weekend then hopefully that'll help! Really hope she's on the mend.

Sounds like tonsillitis to me seven, so I'd definitely get to the Doctor's. I had it so much and so often they eventually took the buggers out, best thing that happened to me: shame they waited til I was 21.

KateM77 Wed 15-Aug-12 21:27:44

seven sounds like tonsillitis as northern said. I've had it a couple of times this year. Get yourself to GP. If there is white stuff it's bacterial rather than viral, and you can get antibiotics for it. In the meantime paracetamol, salt water gargles, and rest as much as possible. Get well soon

aethelfleda Wed 15-Aug-12 22:35:28

Hiya seven: poor you! Actually it's not that simple as patches = antibiotics: as some viral tonsilitis can cause white patches (exudates) and some bacterial tonsillitises don't make them. Also, especially if it's one sided, the tonsils themselves can make white gungy bits (tonsiliths) so you might be seeing one of them if it's just one or two patches.
The natural history of tonsillitis is get worse over 3 days, then improve sometime over the next 48 hours, about 12 hours sooner if antbiotics are taken (but that's because some people are taking them for a virus ie no effect). Best thing to do is a) take regular paracetamol or ibuprofen (or alternate), plenty of fluids, mild salt gargles if you can b) keep an eye on your temp, a prolongued persistant high temp that doesnt get much better with the drugs is a bit more likely bacterial, c) go to GP if you can't swallow liquids, feel like a badger's a**e, or it's not turning around by day 4-5, or if you get lots of white spots all over the tonsils. Hope you get better soon!

seven77 Wed 15-Aug-12 22:53:11

Thanks all. Temp was 39 for 24 hours from yesterday lunchtime but is normal again now. I felt bloody awful yesterday afternoon, weak and shaky. Will keep an eye on it and see GP on Friday/Monday if need be.

mopsy glad it sounds like MiniM is on the mend.

Seven Hope you feel better soon. Tonsillitis is the work of the devil. Suffered with it for years. Had them out when I was 20. Darcie suffered 10 times over an 18month period and I had to really push for her to have them removed. Which happened Jan 2011 at same time they removed her adenoids too. So we are both so much better now grin

Mopsy Hope MiniM is on the mend.

2 sleeps........grin

Northern I both nervous & excited. Pick up my dress this morning which will def make it more real smile

Figgygal Thu 16-Aug-12 07:04:38

He slept until 6.45 grin
A cat woke me up at 5.30 angry

Right off to work sadsad

mopsytop Thu 16-Aug-12 07:41:08

Today is nursery day but minim is still asleep. (Only one wake up! Thank Bob! I really needed the sleep. I conked out at 9pm and slept like a log apart from getting up once.) That's really not normal for her,, she usually wakes at 6, so I think I'd better err on the side of caution and keep her at home today. Anyway I'd feel too guilty dumping her in nursery when she's been so unwell all week. If she is better today, I'll take her tomorrow.

V exciting re: dress DSM, I remember you have the fittings for it. Must be over a year ago now!

OiMissus Thu 16-Aug-12 07:41:14

dsm 2 sleeps!!! Fantastic! It's marked on my calendar, and I will try and make the effort to have a glass of something fizzy at 3;30pm on Saturday.
seven sorry about your poorly tonsils, hope you're on the mend, alongside Minim.
Well, what do you know, BOi had a bottle at 10.30pm and then didn't have another until 6am this morning! I hope this continues. Despite having 2 - 3 meals a day now, depending on his mood, he has still been having 5 or 6 bottles a day. he didn't sleep through completely, he needed shushing and reassuring, but maybe...
he's still in with us. I'll try and start the nursery decor this weekend. He had a horrible cough so... <excuses excuses >

Rocco keeps pulling himself up on the telly stand so (I'm a bit late baby proofing blush) I just went on to ebay & typed in tv straps & ended up looking at strap on boobs for transvestites grin

OiMissus Thu 16-Aug-12 08:52:01

Ha ha ha!! Whoops!
What is it with them? Ali is obsessed with the TV, even when it isn't switched on, which is most of the time when he's in. But he crawls over, pulls himself up on the stand, and then puts his hands on the screen to lean against. I say NO firmly, I say it more loudly, again, No. I clap my hands sharply to get his attention... say it's dangerous, one day it will fall on your head. I'll go over, pull him away, make him look at my face and say NO firmly. And he laughs in my face. Thinks it's hilarious.
As soon as he's old enough to grasp the concept of a naughty step, he's gonna be right on it! Little tyke. Why-yI-Yaughta!
We're going to have to have a chat about acceptable behaviour.
For example, screaming at night for milk. Not acceptable.
Crying and then crawling into mummy's bed at night and not staying in the mahoosive comfy cot. Not acceptable.
Kicking your covers off when it's cold. Not acceptable.
Whinging when you've crawled into mummy's bed and in mummy's space, when it's cold and not allowing mummy to have any covers. Not acceptable.
Rolling about when we're trying to change a pooey nappy. Not acceptable.
Putting fingers in people's nostrils and pulling. Not acceptable.
Grabbing eyeballs and lips. Not acceptable.
Putting mummy's phone or the remote control in your mouth. Not acceptable.
Beating up people who are not as strong as you (mummy and daddy) all the time (punching, head butting, etc). Not acceptable.
Then we will add "getting tattoos" and "Wearing sports wear when you are not playing sports" and "Wearing trousers that show all your bum" to the list when he gets a bit older. hmm

seven77 Thu 16-Aug-12 08:52:15

At least they were only strap on boobs Honey. Sorry, anyway ...

dsm so exciting!

mopsy glad she slept better, hopefully she's just sleeping off the last of it.

<Pompoms> for BOi

seven77 Thu 16-Aug-12 08:55:13

<hides tattoo and whistles inconspicuously>

Can we add singing whilst drunk to that list oi? And talking in burps?

Oi OH has full sleeves & chest tattoo; think I'm fighting a losing battle on that one sad Don't get me wrong I like them on OH but on Rocco shock the thought of blemishing that beautiful skin oh no no no no no!

Not in the best mood, we had agreed to go on holiday first week in September, hopefully still warm in Italy but out of school holidays. Italy has been looking pricey to travel from down here so I'd said I'd be willing to go anywhere as long as we go somewhere warm but we've still not booked as OH thought it'd be best to do it last minute. So this morning I said if we're going on holiday in 2 weeks don't you think we should book something & he said well I doubt we will be going anywhere that soon angry I don't think he realises how badly we need this holiday; I've still not gotten over him leaving me to go to Goa & I'm not likely to if he reneges on his promise of a holiday this year sad I said, so if we're missing the European summer are we going to the Carribean then hmm I got no reply!

Figgygal Thu 16-Aug-12 13:30:39

HLC i know how you feel on the holiday front i am desperate for one but in the same breath dont want to take DS away, he hates the he and franky i go on holiday to relax, drink the local beer and go on trips around whatever country we are in none of which suits little man.

I might send him to my parents next year for a week and DH and i us go without him. My parents, DB, SIL, SIL Parents and my niece are all off to disneyland next year i want to go but he wont remember it so DH has said no, keep debating whether can go or not but the idea of 9 hour flight chills my blood.

What is it about babies poking and pulling faces must be age for it DS is a glasses grabber and a hair puller too

BJR Thu 16-Aug-12 14:00:38

Can't believe it's so close DSM hope you have a wonderful day smile

Oi can I add to your list - standing up in the bath and trying to climb out - not acceptable oh and standing up using other children's hair to balance - also not acceptable.

mopsytop Thu 16-Aug-12 14:11:02

Golly I'd say minim is months from standing. She's vaguely trying to crawl but can only go backwards a few inches.

HLC Haha! At least was strap-on boobs!

Mopsy I think MiniM is just sleeping off last of virus which is a good thing. smile

Oi Totally agree with that list.

<Hides tattoos, thankful no piercingly anymore> grin

Figgy I found my dress when I was 7mths pregnant and Sky will be 8mths old same day as FiggyBoy so yeah almost a year ago.

Re holiday - our holiday is our honeymoon to Caribbean - child free - which I haven't had since I've had children so am really looking forward to it.

Thanks BJR.

Oi Thanks about the bubbly too.

Picked up my dress this morning and is hanging at mums. I've had my nails done so that's it now. Exciting stuff! grin

anairofhopeFORGOLD Thu 16-Aug-12 16:05:39

Hi just got Hope weighed and she is 6.90 kg at 37 weeks so 15lb 3oz at nearly 9 months old. She is short and chubby just like me grin

She can stand has two teeth and started saying dadada.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Thu 16-Aug-12 16:08:03

Waves pompoms for DSM grin

Rocco wants to stand without holding on to things, he keeps pulling up & pushing himself away from furniture & then falling & crying sad Over & over & over again! Why can't he just enjoy crawling? The only reason he crawls is to get to something to pull up on. Tis exhausting to watch, I've been comforting him all day. He'll be black & blue all over by the end of the week at this rate!

CherryBlossom27 Thu 16-Aug-12 18:20:28

Evening all!

Had a good day today despite teething!

HLC I know what you mean about tattoos on LO's - they are sooo lucky to have such soft yummy skin! I don't have any tattooes always wanted something but I'm far too scared of it hurting. Heavily tattooed work mate thinks I'm hilarious and said if I can give birth a tattoo will be nothing...I'm not convinced! I turn green having a blood test!

DSM wow, not long now! My only tip for the wedding day is try and sneak 10 minutes alone with your DH to savour the moment!

Right, off to cook now...wish me luck...DS is so far smiling and playing!

aethelfleda Thu 16-Aug-12 18:35:57

<big sparkly pompoms for DSM>

Cherry My opinion, being I have 2 tattoos and they don't hurt, but again my opinion.

Well this is the last night i'll spend in our home as a Miss. Have been treated to a chinese takeaway smile

GeeandTee Thu 16-Aug-12 19:46:28

DSM that is so exciting! And am jealous of a child-free holiday, don't think we will get that, or even a night away, for YEARS.

Really hope that all the last-minute preparations go well and you avoid any rain on the big day. Can't wait to see photos! I expect we will all be thinking of you on Saturday.

Have some thanks smile

mopsytop Thu 16-Aug-12 19:54:58

Too exciting DSM! Savour every minute!

Gee Thanks. Saturday is supposed to be the hottest day of the year down on the south coast smile

Figgygal Thu 16-Aug-12 21:44:06

Im loving a lazy baby he never tries to get up happy flailing around on his bum, am sure itll come though confused

DSM when do you go on honeymoon? Straight away?

Figgy We go on honeymoon Sept 7th. I wanted to be home for Darcie's first day at Juniors and Sky's first full day at nursery. smile

seven77 Thu 16-Aug-12 23:23:08

Yay dsm! There will be much spangly pompom waving on Saturday!

cherry I agree with DSM, they don't really hurt. The noise of the drill is pretty horrible though, not recommended for anyone with a fear of the dentist!

honey Eva has been pulling up loads the last couple of days. Thankfully she always lands on her bum though so there's been no tears.

Our excuse for going to the Paralympics is that we never have holidays. We can't afford holiday cottages or hotels, and sleeping on a hard floor and emptying a bucket of poo camping is not my idea of a relaxing holiday.

Throat still hurts, getting fed up now.

Figgygal Fri 17-Aug-12 07:59:52

Another 6.15 wake up for him but 5.15 for me......bloody bladder!!

Well it's peeing down again might be going out for lunch with workmate or might take self off shopping and spend money I don't have.

Enjoy your last day as Miss DSM

Kitty5824 Fri 17-Aug-12 10:00:57

I feel we have reached a milestone. Last night I administered a full 5ml dose of calpol. As he slept for 4 straight hours after I think we might be doing this again tonight blush

DSM will you be watching the clock all day thinking "this time tomorrow...." grin

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 12:00:06


hi Athel is this all i need or do i need anappy to go in the wrap?

(hope the link works and any aswers/advice greatfully recieved!)

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 12:42:16

So i have got a wrap and the popin liner and a allinone nappy as well.

Im a little bit confused but hope i got the right things. I shall report back after they arrive and are tested smile

BeeMyBaby Fri 17-Aug-12 13:52:55

ended up getting dd2 a pintoy baby walker for Eid, and even though Eid's not til Sunday we just gave it her to play with and she started to walk with it and it was very cute (I was also filming it on my phone) until... <crash> she went into the wall, mashed her little face and ended up with a bleeding mouth so DH was much annoyed with me and my yet again complete fail at safe parenting. I also now have a video of her screaming in pain.

very excited for you DSM!

Well everything is at the hotel. Except for my dress, bridesmaid dresses and just stuff for me and girls. It is all so real now. Had a sneaky peek at the suite this morning as another ceremony was happening later on and its going to look fab grin quite nervous tho!

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 14:49:30

wine you will be fine DSM grin

aethelfleda Fri 17-Aug-12 15:27:21

Ok, you need the "motherease airflow wrap", the "pop in absorbant staydry booster" which it sounds like younhave and a "motherease onesize nappy with staydry lining". The motherease all-in-one is a different type that combines a waterproof outer with the absorbant bit: it's a different nappy and is pull-on no popper type, wouldnt go overnight.

As our link didn't work, Pm me your email address and I'll email you mine, then you can send me a copy of your order email to check. If you have ordered an all-in-one by accident then ring them
Up and see if they can swap it before they post it out to you.

aethelfleda Fri 17-Aug-12 15:28:09

Sorry, that last post was aimed at air, pm me my dear cos i can't click on your profile!

OiMissus Fri 17-Aug-12 16:01:46

All the very best for tomorrow dsm!!

seven77 Fri 17-Aug-12 18:22:36

dsm enjoy your last night as a miss, I can't remember what you said you were doing tonight? Hope it all goes well tomorrow, maybe the rest of us can come on tomorrow night for a wine and <pompom> shaking toast to the bride!

air are you all well again now? How are things going with DH?

bee unfortunately once again these things happen, it's not your fault.

We have had success over here with lacto-free yoghurts! grin

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 18:30:55

Oh no i dont think i got the nappy. I got the wrap and two boosters but no nappy. I will have to order it seprate i think. I have email you!

Seven my chest infection not go i have dr appointment next week. I got Hopes cream for excema. Air is good. Still working on Dh hmm

aethelfleda Fri 17-Aug-12 19:31:24

Cool, we'll chat off thread.

dsm soooo nearly there, very happy for you, hope it all goes brilliantly!
thanks and wine

KateM77 Fri 17-Aug-12 19:40:55

Have a fantastic day tomorrow DSM grin

Indeed, best of luck for tomorrow DSM. Try not to melt in the heat, and enjoy every moment, and can't WAIT to see the pictures!

Trying to think of something old, new, borrowed and blue....

Um...well, all our babies are new, that'll do.... and the background colour of MN is blue, so that's two....help me out with the other bits folks smile!

Agree on the tattoos- I've got a couple, nowhere visible, that I've had for years, and there as much as part of me as the millions of moles I've got. I actually felt sort of 'high' after getting them. But it's such a personal thing, totally Marmite.

Seven, how's the throat, and is MiniM feeling better Mopsy?

You seem to have the worst luck Bee, and it's so not your fault. There was a wonderful (iyswim) thread the other day about 'oh Bob, my child's just fallen downstairs, call SS' and several hundred other women came on to recount how theirs had bounced down stairs repeatedly/ended up in A&E/gotten black eyes. Your DH really needs to accept these thing happen.

As it's our ten year anniversary next year we're looking at a holiday- just a few days in Bruges as DP loved it, but we'd have to get some sort of apartment. We never go on holiday so feel we should treat ourselves, even though I swore I'd never go on holiday with an under 5!

mopsytop Fri 17-Aug-12 20:09:31

oooh DSM, enjoy your last night as a miss!!

Northern, minim is a lot better thanks. She's still not entirely herself but nearly there. She was so upset just now when I put her to bed, she was crying her eyes out and saying mama for the first time. I think it's just a sound showing she's upset. She was looking for me and trying to get to me even when my husband was holding her, which wasn't great for him sad but I guess I was at work all day so she needed the reassurance maybe. She's used to my husband being at work I guess.

Anyone doing anything exciting this w/e? (apart from DSM!) we are seeing friends who live abroad that we rarely see, can't wait!

We have The Visitation Of The Rellies. My Aunt and Uncle, who've never visited me at home before. My Aunt and my DM (sisters) don't get on, so this is the first visit to either my Mum or me (I've visited them lots before) in about...oooh, say 25 years confused

We have been cleaning, and I still have the bathroom to go.

Glad she's feeling better Mopsy

seven77 Fri 17-Aug-12 21:06:13

Thanks for asking northern. My throat is no better, and I have developed a random rash over both hands today that looks like small red pimples confused

Glad she's on the mend mopsy.

mopsytop Fri 17-Aug-12 21:09:32

Might be a virus Seven, with a viral rash. You poor thing. Sore throats suck - particularly when they're as bad as yours. You must be miserable sad I hope it improves very soon...

Just a quick check in before I attempt to sleep tonight. Am at the hotel and it's all becoming very real grin will attempt to be a better poster next week x

GeeandTee Fri 17-Aug-12 22:57:49

Hope you get some sleep dsm and have a wonderful day tomorrow!

seven could it be hand foot and mouth? Most people had it as a child and are therefore immune but maybe you missed out? It can cause blisters inside the mouth/throat which are very painful, as well as on hands and feet. I don't know if you rememeber but DS had it while we were in the chicken pox incubation period over Christmas!

Hope minimopsy feels better sOon. DD also says mamamamama when she is upset, but recently it has started sounding a lot more like mama. She is such a mummy's girl, and will peer around anything/anyone who gets in her line of vision from me and stick her hands out as she wants me to cuddle her. Sounds very cute but can be a real pain as I don't want to be the only one who can settle her. DS is also quite clingy to me - what did I do wrong?! Or is it normal? Other people's children don't seem so clingy.

Captain Green Pants smile had a few accidents today with the potty training but I think its because I have tried to remind him less. He starts doing a wee, realises he is wet and stops weeing, then tells me he needs a wee and goes on the potty. I'm amazed he has so much control he can stop himself weeing part way through but just wish he would tell me when he needs to go! Sometimes he does it just a few minutes after I've asked him if he needs a wee and he says no. I guess its all a normal part of potty training.

I'd better stop waffling and procrastinating and get to bed. Hope msbuggy and xiao are doing ok, there's a few more people not posted for a while but names gone out of my head.

Sleep well everyone, or "nice dreams" as DS says smile

OiMissus Fri 17-Aug-12 23:50:21

Oooh v v v exciting * dsm*!!!
( have completely forgotten everything else I wanted to say!)
Hope you all and poorly babies are soon better. X
Nothing much planned for the weekend.
I went to the funeral of a good friend's father today. A lovely man, and a shockingly sudden death. My friend lives in france. I'd offered help - however - and live near her mother (and dearly departed dad), so her cousin, the hubby and 2 kids are staying. (I've never met them before)
The funeral was today. I went to the service, but not the crem or wake. But at 5pm the kids needed to let off steam - so 4 families came to ours to play in the garden and to expend some energy and for the parents to drink wine and give the new widow and older family members some peace.
It's been nice to be able to help out and be useful.

Stupid question but Rocco's not been properly sick since he started solids & he has a fever. Do I still make him breakfast? Or just concentrate on bfing. He's really focussed on boob this morning which is unusual.

GeeandTee Sat 18-Aug-12 07:03:20

HLC you can always offer him something but don't worry if he doesn't want it. I'd go with pureed fruit or something like that. And you're ebf on demand aren't you? Best thing for any illness. Hope he's better sOon.

GeeandTee Sat 18-Aug-12 07:06:37

4 days into a dairy-free diet and DD started only waking once in the night. After a week I gave her a yoghurt and some cheese yestertday and she was up every hour from 1am again. I guess that confirms she has a problem with cows milk does it? Or could it just be coincidence? Should I try her on dairy again today? Not sure I can cope with another bad night but want to be sure it is dairy (as such a pain to be dairy-free).

oi that was very nice of you to offer your house, I expect your friend was very grateful.

Go dsm!

BJR Sat 18-Aug-12 07:20:01

Honey i'd offer the solid food but not worry if he's not bothered! Jack was poorly yesterday and just looked at me like I was mad when I offered him breakfast so just had milk little and often instead. Hope Rocco feels better soon.

Gee i'd leave it another week, ten days and then try again. Will give you a good idea of how well she settles and then try again for a day to see if she is unsettled again. If she does then you know to give it a miss for a while. When we cut it from DS's diet it took a couple of days for him to settle but after a week the difference was very clear.

seven77 Sat 18-Aug-12 09:07:54

gee glad you've potentially found the problem but what a nuisance. I second BJR's advice. I thought Eva was ok on small amounts and just a grizzly baby but the difference has been unbelievable since we cut it out completely. Do you think it's the dairy in general or just lactose? You could always try soy yoghurts in the meantime, I even discovered soy cheese in holland and barrett though it's probably vile

Oooh, I've been distracted by the boy but it's wedding day!!! <digs out heels & fascinator>

Kitty5824 Sat 18-Aug-12 09:34:02

DSM gringringrin I've changed my fb profile picture back to the one of me in a hat in your honour.

Tomorrow, I'll share my two mini wedding disaster stories, but don't want to tempt fate today (they're really not that bad. Well, one could have been but we're well past that being an issue for you!)

anairofhopeFORGOLD Sat 18-Aug-12 09:35:03

Have a great day DSM smile

<puts fancy hat on and shakes pompoms>

<pulls on serviceable dress>

<hums 'here comes the bride'>

Sounds like Captain Green Pants is doing very well Gee and will be a fully-fledged potty user before too long!

I think seeing as your symptoms haven't gone away, and have in fact gotten progressively worse, I'd get off to the doctor's seven, although I know that's easier said than done on a Saturday.

I need to do some last minute tidying, and then we've got to get off to the shops to get lunch for The Rellies. Now if DS would just play ball with his nap we might actually get somewhere hmm...

Figgygal Sat 18-Aug-12 09:49:15

Have a lovely day DSM grin

DS woke us at 3 this morning first time in weeks, he then went back to sleep without any intervention from us great I thought.......for 10 mins then he woke up and when I went in his room my nostrils were assaulted by the overwhelming stench of boy poo it was bad really bad!! Was half 4 before he went back to sleep then woke again at 6.45 with another eye watering stinker of a nappy. It's not a good start to a day when you've had 2 of those before 7amconfused

MissRee Sat 18-Aug-12 10:07:33

Hope today is everything you wish for and more DSM grin

I dug out the air cooler thingy this morning, dusted it off, gave it a good clean and put it in the front room for Freta - she's sweating like a piglet this morning, bless her! It's about 27 degrees in here - should cool down later it's just we have sun at the front in the mornings through shitty single pane windows so it gets rather warm.

Just read back, sorry to here about minimopsy sad

GeeandTee Sat 18-Aug-12 11:27:09

Thanks seven. Is soy ok to give babies? I had heard that it could interfere with hormones or something but could be wrong as I wasn't really paying attention!

And thanks too BJR I'm going to take your advice and keep her off dairy for a while then try again. I suspect it might be lactose as my brother is lactose intolerant. Eggs should be ok though shouldn't they, as she loves eggs!

I am still bfing and haven't cut dairy out of my diet. Should I? Not sure I can face it, especially when we're off on holiday.

aethelfleda Sat 18-Aug-12 11:46:53

joins Northern
All together now.... "Here comes the Briiiide".... Whoohoo!!!
<bounces excitedly in floaty skirt and blouse all done up posh like>

Gee, if you are BFing dairy in your diet should be fine as you are breaking the lactose down. Egg likewise should be OK.
The oestrogen thing: soy contains plant phytoestrogens so there was a concern about large amounts of it eg babies fed entirely on soy milk, people were concerned about it affecting sex hormone levels esp in boys. But there's no proof either way really. The odd soy yoghurt is pretty minimal. As it's an intolerance rather than an allergy, northerns suggestion of retry every few weeks/months with a little bit, them you get some sleep and hopefully she'll grow out of it as her gut matures. If you're not happy Or worried re a new allergy then GP may be a good port of call.

seven77 Sat 18-Aug-12 14:28:30

gee if you suspect lactose you could always try lacto-free yoghurts, then at least you'll know which it is. I got some in asda from the chiller cabinet.

Definitely not hand, foot and mouth. The rash is now up both arms and all over my back!

seven77 Sat 18-Aug-12 15:50:33

DSM is now getting married!

It's far too hot, I'm melting, grumble grumble etc.

aethelfleda Sat 18-Aug-12 17:02:39

Yaaaaay! <flurry of pompoms and confetti>

KateM77 Sat 18-Aug-12 19:24:58

Congratulations to the now MrsDSM wine

Hooray and congratulations to Mrs DSM

I hope your married life is long and happy, and I'd make a wish for you that you'd be blessed with children, but that's already happened twice! Hope you're having a fantastic day smile

seven77 Sat 18-Aug-12 21:15:18

Right I have prosecco. To Mr and Mrs DSM!

Hope everyone else is having a good weekend.

MissRee Sat 18-Aug-12 22:07:08

I'm raising a glass of icy water to Mr and Mrs DSM (I don't drink the alcomahol)

What a glorious day! Chilling in Nanny's garden with the beebs splashing about in the pool (in the shade). Poor little F isn't coping too well... we had an unsettled night without the trusty sleeping bag and I suspect the same for tonight sad it's 27.5 degrees in here though so she will have to suffer without it I'm afraid or she'll overheat!

GeeandTee Sun 19-Aug-12 06:47:52

aethel thanks, as ever, for the advice.

Just had another awful night. I didn't get to sleep until 1am as some peopLe qere being loud outside but it was too hot to shut the window, then had to settle DD at 1.30am, 2.30, fed at 3.30, then she woke up giggling at 5.30 and did a massive poomageddon so I had to change her. She is still awake and won't go back to sleep. Reckon I've had around 3 broken hours and feeling on the verge of exhaustion. Could this still be the eFfects of lactose on Friday? I didn't give her any dairy yesterday.

Feel like my head is about to explode sad and have to pack for our holiday today.

((((hug)))) gee too tired for words <passes giant mug of coffee >

hawthers Sun 19-Aug-12 07:21:49

Oh gee so tough. Perhaps cut out all dairy for a week or 2 then give her one carefully controlled (and timed) thing when you have the energy and support to risk a bad night.

F is still having masses of nasty nappies bit I found his first tooth yesterday. Do we think it is connected or could it be related to me feeding him egg?

Morning campers grin

We had a fantastic day yesterday thank you all for thinking about us x pics to follow later x

Figgygal Sun 19-Aug-12 07:59:48

We were the same with neighbours last night although with lo having woken us up the night before I still slept thru it though unusually he woke up screaming at 11 though went straight back to sleep with his teddy. He's had disgusting nappies and been whining pretty much all weekend fingers crossed its teeth am almost glad to be going to work tomorrow for a break.

Taking him to local farm park today hopefully some big smelly animals will spark an interest.

Congrats dsm!!

BJR Sun 19-Aug-12 08:23:44

Glad you had a fantastic day DSM, was a beautiful day for it smile.

We have a house of lurgy here. DS was sick all thursday and friday and DP and I both seem to have caught it and have been up all night. Need some relatives on hand as I don't think either of us are up to entertaining two boys today!

CherryBlossom27 Sun 19-Aug-12 09:45:47

Congratulations DSM thanks

I'm not having much fun with DS at the moment sad Tooth 5 has cut through the gum, but Tooth 6 is not quite there yet. The hot weather is too hot for me, let alone DS. He won't nap in the daytime and just screams when I put him in the cot...I'm hoping it's just the heat! DS also has a snotty nose and a cough which he's now given me sad

Sorry to whinge but I'm really hot, tired and ill and seriously grumpy!

Hope everyone else is managing to enjoy the weather though!

aethelfleda Sun 19-Aug-12 11:31:00

Wow cherry, tooth SIX?!?! We don't have any yet for DS, just piles and piles of drool. hawthers, the bottom issue will be teethy bum, I've never heard of egg causing nappy rash, teething is notoriaous for nasty bottom rash. Crack open the metanium from mr Tesco if needed.

(((hug))) gee, it's really hard to tell but I think we've all had crappy nights in this hot weather: I was up at 12 and 2 with DS and again at 1 and 3 with the girls needing drinks/cuddles/settling.

seven77 Sun 19-Aug-12 14:26:44

aethel no teeth here either.

cherry hope you're feeling better soon. I completely agree about it being too hot though!

My throat is finally better, though my mouth is full of tiny ulcers and I'm covered in spots. Eva has a high temp of 38.7 now, and the fact that it's 26 degrees indoors isn't helping sad

Anyone seen LMF?

Kitty5824 Sun 19-Aug-12 16:51:22

Congratulation to DSM thanks

I can't be arsed to tell my Wedding stories yet...maybe later.

We've also had a disrupted few days...partly weather, partly teething. He's had his bottom two for ages, I wish the top ones would blooming well hurry up.

We bought a stair gate yesterday to barricade him into the lounge as he's started commando crawling at such speed that I found him in the hall trying to lick the wheels of the pram when I had just put him down a minute ago shock

And we went to the balloon show in Northampton and spent a lovely 90 mins driving in the same general direction as the hot air balloons and stopping to take photos. Has anyone been up in one? Something I've always fancied.....

Ditto, we are roasting. It is...
<goes off to check>
26 degrees in DS's room, and that's the coolest one in the house.

He's managing to sleep OK in this heat though, which is more than can be said for his mother. I certainly had my eyes closed in a darkened room last night, tho whether it can be called sleep I don't know....

In extremely shitty news here, DP's work have turned down his request to reduce his hours to fit in with the nursery. Really not sure what we're going to do- DP (and I) don't want DS to do a 'full' day, five days a week, 9-4 was fine. But his work won't let him go half 9 til half 3.

We're stuck- we could afford for him not to go to work at all, my wage would just about cover us (there's barely any difference if DP works for any period, as his wages almost exactly match the cost of whatever time DS would spend in nursery).
But I don't want to risk being the sole wage earner, especially given the massive reorganisation that's happening in November, and we both want to spend some time with DS during the week.

Bugger sad

Calling ACAS and the union on Monday, and the nursery....

aethelfleda Sun 19-Aug-12 17:32:33

Kitty, we were given a balloon ride by our lovely uni friends, who all clubbed together as a present for our wedding. It was great fun, though a bit unpredictable where yoi actually went due to the nature of baloon travel. Wear walking boots!

northern, what an arse. Do see what the union say: technically there may not be much that can be done about it but it always annoys me when people are inflexible regarding childcare needs.

It's roasting over here too: there was a brief promise of a thunderstorm earlier, but then it missed us and the sun came out again. I am NOT built for this heat!! Did finally get the front room skirting finished thanks to DH's excellent child-wrangling, hooray. Now off to dunk my head in a cold bucket of water and pray for rain.....

BJR Sun 19-Aug-12 17:54:37

Oh dear, what a day! DP and I have both been on and off being sick all day and having that horrid if I move i'm going to be sick again feeling.

Then at about lunch time DS was happily playing in the travel cot and when I checked on him he was standing in a sea of poo. Some toys, clothes, towel and travel cot have all had to go in the bin as it was literally everywhere. Was not the most pleasant day i've had recently.

As soon as the boy is in bed I will be going to sleep. Bring on tomorrow!

anairofhopeFORGOLD Sun 19-Aug-12 18:07:34

BJR get well soon

Northern hope you can work it out sad

Northern Hope you sort it all out.

BJR Hope you all feel better soon.

Seven Hope your mouth ulcers go soon.

We had a fantastic day yesterday. The weather was brilliant all day and the view was stunning. The hotel was decorated beautifully and couldn't of asked for anything better. We don't talk about the first dance tho! Some pics have gone up on FB of yesterday but will be a couple of weeks for official ones.

First day being Mrs T has been good. Everyone has said what a fab day they had yesterday and that we I know how to throw a party grin

Both the girl's were extremely well behaved considering they barely saw us and are now tucked up in bed and we are enjoying the peace.

Already sad that I'll never wear my wedding dress again!

Anyways up date laters x

mopsytop Sun 19-Aug-12 20:47:28

Yay DSM!! So pleased for you that you had a beautiful day.

KateM77 Sun 19-Aug-12 21:15:19

DSM so pleased to hear you had a great day yesterday

Get well soon to seven and BJR

Cooling thoughts to all.

Fortunately my two seem to just get knocked out by the heat. I was expecting a disturbed night last night, but not a peep out of them. Hope tonight is the same as I'm shattered. We went over to Blenheim today - they had a cycle event all weekend, which included family rides. DH took DD round on his bike. Sadly, the seat for DS hasn't arrived yet so me and the little man sat in the shade instead. Might not have been a bad thing in hindsight! Both DC's coped pretty well despite being v hot and sweaty. Wish I'd realised about the balloon festival kitty, Northampton is only 10mins up the road for us.

BTW these are the bikes seats we have, I would recommend them: Wee Ride

seven77 Sun 19-Aug-12 22:05:54

Ugh BJR to sickness and the sea of poo. Hope tomorrow is a better day!

Glad you had a great day DSM.

northern what a bugger. What does DP do/qualifications does be have? If you could survive on your wage would be be able to resign and look for something else part-time if need be?

MissRee Sun 19-Aug-12 22:55:59

Sorry to post and run a "mememe" again but have just posted a query in Legal Matters (can't link as on my phone). If anyone could help, I'd be most grateful!

mopsytop Mon 20-Aug-12 09:04:53

MissRee, if that's your designated space in your contract it's prob fine but those big companies can be v aggressive so don't let yourself be bullied! I'd ask at your local citizens advice bureau maybe?

KateM77 Mon 20-Aug-12 12:05:12

Meant to send sympathies to northern yesterday about the job situation. Hope you and DP manage to get it sorted out somehow.

I'm sitting in the car on the drive with both DC's asleep in the back. Went to try and get DD's feet measured as I'm pretty sure she needs new shoes, but it'll have to wait until the older children are back at school. Shoe shops are carnage at the moment and I had to abandon due to grumpy DS!

OiMissus Mon 20-Aug-12 13:00:43

SCongrats to Mrs DSM
Sympathies to northern about DP's job woes, and to bjr about poomageddon and sickness.
Bleurgh here. In summary: Boi not sleeping. Work being ultra challenging. And am so paranoid about losing my job. DH has had no joy on the job front thus far.
Gotta dash. Can't be seen to be on t'interweb during work time!!

BeeMyBaby Mon 20-Aug-12 13:48:10

Kate We bought a start rite home foot measure which we use to save us the trouble of having to check instore all the time, especially when DD1 would grow half a size every 2 months.

Oi Are your DH's bosses willing to write a super good reference or are they still fighting with him?

Anyone checked out the national statistics names that came out last week? I was quite pleased to see that there was about 100 (with various spellings) for DD2s name (even though we are in Scotland so not actually applicable to us, nm).

CherryBlossom27 Mon 20-Aug-12 17:11:41

Yes 6 teeth now Aethel 2 at the bottom and four at the top...ouch! Hopefully that's it for a little while!

Northern that's a pain, hope you can figure something out with childcare & work. It's hard trying to get a good balance.

Oi hope something comes up soon for your DH and your work gets better!

Thank goodness the weather is cooler today, I think DS and myself are a million times more comfortable and happy today smile

seven77 Mon 20-Aug-12 17:29:56

bee I just looked, Eva is number 33 so not too common I guess. I'm slightly annoyed though that when we were thinking about names I really liked Kate, but decided against it as I thought it would be popular due to the royal wedding. Katie is quite far down the list but Kate didn't even make the top 100. We don't have many of the most popular ones here do we?

oi is your job uncertain at the minute or is it the pressure of being the sole earner worrying you?

northern hope you've thought through some options about what to do.

We've had DS friend round today, they were very cute playing diggers in the dirt together, and drawing with chalk on the patio. Though he did wet himself (he's 4 and normally very reliable) because he was too busy to go to the toilet hmm, though thankfully it was outside.

CherryBlossom27 Mon 20-Aug-12 17:55:41

bee just checked and Lewis is no. 39 on the list. We just went for a name that we both liked and as he was a big chunk at birth (9lb 1oz) I thought Lewis suited him best out of the short list names as he reminded me of Lennox Lewis!

Mine and DH's names aren't to be seen on the top 100....my name is definitely not a MN name at all and a lot of people seem to be naming their bloody Rottweilers and bulldogs by my name lol!

anairofhopeFORGOLD Mon 20-Aug-12 17:59:21

Hope is 189 on the list i think grin

BJR Mon 20-Aug-12 18:06:36

Number 3! Wasn't even on our shortlist but none of the shortlisted names worked he's definately Jack smile

Kitty5824 Mon 20-Aug-12 18:29:53

No 47 for Seb.

Just been in tears over the news that they've called off the search at Burnham on Sea. So sad. sad

Can someone put a link to the list of names pls. X

KateM77 Mon 20-Aug-12 20:14:35

baby names list

DS is no. 14 in 2011, and DD was no. 6 in 2010. I am clearly a sheep with no imagination! Either that, or we just liked the names and they were the only ones we could agree on

CherryBlossom27 Mon 20-Aug-12 20:24:42

Sorry but OMG! Shocking how much some people spend on the other thread about not believing people spend £50 a week on food shock I felt a bit bad that we have a budget of £200 per month, as when DH and I first moved in together 10 years ago I could do it on £100 a month! Not feeling so bad now grin

Cherry, same! £50 gets us food, formula & nappies. We eat relatively healthily (2/3 servings of fruit/veg a day) and everything (aside from gnocchi/pasta) is home made. We're on 3 bottom teeth, 3 top here (and another couple poking through), he likes having his teeth brushed which is great!

Kitty, glad the name isn't more popular, it was the only one that 'fitted' DS. I've really started to love the name John, so if we ever manage to make another one I may have to use it as a middle name.
What names do people love but weren't able to use?

sad, such a gorgeous little boy. DH will hate me for telling t'internet this but he's gotten so emotional over children since DS, hate to think how cut up he'd be next time he's at a bad incident at work.

Northen, hope job situation gets sorted soon, you too Oi.

Suffering from a bloody awful UTI atm, DH has been fantastic. 4 hour drive yesterday, then looked after DS all night & all day today without complaint, and he'll do the same again tomorrow (taking time off work until I'm better) I luff him.

LittleMissFlustered Mon 20-Aug-12 21:45:12

Sorry been AWOL, been hanging on but have had a couple of better days.

To those ill, I send sympathiessad and for those with job issues I send kippers, swordfish and fervent hope that unions and solicibobs can help!

Congrats to DSM, may the love and laughter from your wedding day live with you always.

No teeth heresmile I don't like it when they get teeth, I love the smiles without. I'm weird.

Weather playing havoc with our lungs. Humidity is horrible. Octoboy has been referred back to peadiatric asthma nurse for a checkup.

Off to try to sleep. Minimal chances, but hey! Elder two off to terrorise visit their grandparents later in the week so I can catnap with octoboy for a couple of dayssmile

aethelfleda Mon 20-Aug-12 22:51:12

<waves at the assembled thread>

we're planning tomorrow to visit (help) the potential monstrosity that is Peppa Pig world. Both DDs inordinately excited already...

If I don't surface by tomorrow evening please send in a search and rescue team and turn the piggy culprits into pork scratchings....

LittleMissFlustered Tue 21-Aug-12 04:30:26

Mmm, hog roast. Bacon and sausages for breakfast before you go I hope?grin

Figgygal Tue 21-Aug-12 08:45:47

Just dropping in with a rant but on way to work I just heard on news that a chap who wants to become an American senator said in a debate about abortion that even abortion after rape is wrong because women's bodies can stop themselves from conceiving if it's because of rape. Wow!!! That may be the most ignorant thing I've ever heard.

Cherry I do a £200 a month shop and then buy fresh bread, milk & frozen veg every week if we run out.

LMF Thanks smile Hope Octoboy's asthma isn't playing up too much.

Aethel DD love Peppa pig world. is only a 40 min drive for us too.

Plan for today is sort out the dry cleaning for my dress and get it boxed up nicely do it can be stored properly in the attic and need to go to supermarket for food lol!

LittleMissFlustered Tue 21-Aug-12 09:03:23

I shop as we need it for meat and such. My freezer is insanely small so it's just one of those unavoidable things. The 'stoxk' cupboard is usually full though, and it's always got tomatoes, pasta and rice in it. I can ship for a pittance as its just me and the kids, but I can't budget for toffee so we tend to spend lots >_<

Figgygal Tue 21-Aug-12 13:23:24

I have to say i have no comprehension what we spend weekly too much i know that !! Our weekly big shop is about £70 then we end up making own lunch arrangements in the week and usually end up in shops in the week as we dont fancy things we have bought. The skunk eats fresh veg (carrots, peppers, beans, swede, cucumber, magetout, corn) which adds up but the overall bill is getting a bit out of hand and we need to reign it in.

Our CM has sent me a pic of ds in his pushchair looking at an exhibit about slavery god only knows where she has taken them today looks very formal.

Our freezer door was left open overnight so we've lost about £200 worth of freezer stuff sad

seven77 Tue 21-Aug-12 16:59:19

Oh no DSM, what a nuisance!

aethel hope you the DDs enjoy peppy pig world, my sister is going at the weekend. Though I must confess I think peppa pig is the worst shite ever made.

London sightseeing tomorrow!

MissRee Tue 21-Aug-12 17:33:37

Please can it be Friday now? We're off next week and have a whole week with Jack staying with us - very exciting! We already have a beach trip planned for Monday, Chessington on Tuesday and might do a day trip into London too grin

Thanks for your reply Mopsy, I contacted a company called LEASE in the end who offer free advice and unfortunately they think we don't have the right to use that space now that the coal bunker is gone sad Still, we haven't heard back from the freeholder in response to our pointing out of this clause so I'm hoping that's the end of it!

We spend about £60 per week on food shopping, plus I buy lunch every day (about £3.50 per day) blush

Hope all the poorlies are on the mend again and that peppa Aethel survives the day grin

anairofhope Tue 21-Aug-12 18:04:01

testing name change

anairofhope Tue 21-Aug-12 18:05:50

update the photos if anyone is intreasted lol

back after dinner to catch up!

Hello all- thought I'd watch the game last night with a couple of beers as a treat to cheer us up mistake. Tho' at least DP was happy, given he supports the Blue side, or the Abu Dhabi All-Stars as I now refer to them grin

Thanks re. sympathies for the job stuff- ACAS have been really good, and have confirmed that DP's employer's haven't followed guidelines/law in what they've done so far; nursery have been great and really flexible about times and payments; sadly union have been a bit crap and unhelpful and unresponsive.

Problem we have is that DP's manager organised tomorrow's meeting with him last week, before we knew anything was afoot- we only got the letter Saturday. His union can't provide anyone to accompany him for a couple of weeks, so that's delaying us. His manager hasn't responded to DP's request for reasons, nor his e-mail to say he'll need to re-arrange the meeting.

He's got a degree seven, and works in admin, so he could resign and look for something else, but we feel we just can't risk it at the moment. Totally stuck....

How's it going for you Oi, are you feeling insecure as the main wage earner or has something happened to make you worry?

Anyhow, just wanted to send huge sympathies to BJR, that's awful (but a very well described image, made me feel quite boaky wink). Was he ill or was it just one of those stealth-titana-poos they're capable of? And how're you and DP feeling now? And hope you're feeling a bit better too AWCH.

Hope Peppa Pig world wasn't the seventh circle of hell too bad aethel, but I'm sure it was worth it for the DDs, bet they loved every minute!

DS has four teeth, can crawl and today properly pulled himself up to standing, on everything. I'm just mentally unprepared for all of this- as I was a late starter (did bugger all except sit surrounded by cushions and slightly concerned parents and smile til 17 months) I was expecting DS to be the same, but he's growing uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup confused

Figgygal Tue 21-Aug-12 20:07:59

Is my baby really the only one who still just sits and shows no interest in pulling self up or crawling? Or any teeth?

Feel like figgyboy is falling behind almost sad

KateM77 Tue 21-Aug-12 20:25:19

figgy in a word: no! DS just sits, has no interest in crawling or pulling up on anything. He's never rolled either. He does have two teeth though! DD was just the same, but didn't get her first tooth until 8.5 months. She started bum shuffling at 11 months and walked at 16 months. She's incredibly advanced with her language skills, just took longer to get there on the physical things than her little friends. But she did get there. That's why I have no concerns about DS, and you shouldn't about figgyboy either, he's just perfect the way he is grin and it makes life easier because you know they'll be just where you left them, and you don't have to childproof anything

aethelfleda Tue 21-Aug-12 20:28:41

We survived! Peppa Pig World was treated like a military operation and I share the strategy with you as anyone southern is likely to have to run this gauntlet at some point. Yes, the DDs loved it, including a very sweet moment when DD1 whispered to me in a ride queue that she still really loved Peppa but didn't want to say so in case DD2 thought her a baby : awwww!
The good news is that it's part of a larger family-owned theme park ,so not Merlin-owned, though it has similarities), so our strategy after reading lots of reviews on the web was to a)arrive early (9.30, meant we parked straight away) b) pre-bought tickets on the web the day before (saved £11 and avoided queue at entrance) and c) headed straight to peppa at 10am opening, stayed there til 12 and then legged it to all the non-Peppa stuff which was much less busy. Max queue was 20 mins all day (we left anything that looked long). The girls are now v tired but really enjoyed it.

Oh no DSM, that's awful. Can you cook and re-freeze any of it That has defrosted? (obviously that only works for raw meat but might save a bit of it?)

Not exact but I usually spend £60 a week at supermarket though we do top up in between for little things and am a sucker for offers at the co-op. at the moment buying formula is hiking the bill, am so glad the reuseable nappies are working as they save us getting more than the odd pack of back-up disposables.

aethelfleda Tue 21-Aug-12 20:31:22

Oh and other tip for peppa is to take a sunsuit/swimsuit and towel/change of clothes as the