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June 2008 - we're back!

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PrincessOfWails Fri 27-Jul-12 16:38:38

Here we are after a prolonged break! Before we start chatting, I suggest a quick recap. Here's mine:
I used to be called Essie.
Iestyn born 16/6/2008.
I still live in north Wales.
I'm currently unemployed after a dreadful time where I was very badly treated but I can't talk about it for legal reasons.
But the best news is that I had a second boy, Goronwy Cwyfan, born 8/7/2011!

LotsofDots Fri 27-Jul-12 16:58:49


I used to be called vivaglasvegas/shouldersbackandnobiscuits.
Charlotte born 06/07/08 (late to the party, but due in June!)
I still live in Glasgow and work as a hospital doctor, with one last big exam to do in October...

DD2 born 24/11/10 (Dorothy).

ktpie Fri 27-Jul-12 20:25:47

Hello! I've kept the same name. I've got Jonathan, born 02/07/08 and Henry born 01/02/10.
I didn't go back to work (as a research scientist) and to be honest have no plans to!
Sounds like you had a terrible time at work Essie/POW.

Hello! recap great idea: kept same name, caitlin born 11/6/08, also have liam nearly 2y older (though I'll try to keep to dd and ds on here).

Work full time as uni lecturer; dp didn't work for a couple of years after walking out of horrible job, he has now got pt job at kids school which is handy!

Watching olympics opening - dd kept me company till 11, which is ridiculous, I remain obsessed by sleep issues...

LotsofDots Sat 28-Jul-12 19:41:27

Opening ceremony was amazing! The viral conjunctivitis that my daughters have gifted to me from nursery is less so. Eurgghh. Eye goop.

EW to conjunctivitis!

V excited today, my best friend is coming to stay for a few days with her two boys (each 9 months younger than each of mine). Hope for sun for us!!

Rolf Mon 30-Jul-12 12:41:03

Hello everyone!
Same name here.
DS1 (12) - going into year 8
DS2 (11) - going into year 7 (ie starting secondary school)
DD1 (7) - going into year 3
DD2 - Thea - shares a birthday with the fathers day babies here!

Former solicitor (a galaxy far far away) and can't imagine going back to it but not quite sure what I'm going to do with myself. I'm now an orphan as my father died in May, so with my youngest/last child about to start school I'd say a mid life crisis is pretty much inevitable. Let's see if it's a dignified one.

We have got well into the olympics, to our surprise. We loved the opening ceremony and I think that stirred us up to enjoy the whole experience. DH's rear end has taken on the shape of an armchair, which in turn is surrounded by things from Dad's house so this summer we're working a Steptoe vibe.

Lovely to hear from everyone but how sad that there are so many employment issues.

LotsofDots Mon 30-Jul-12 20:29:20

Rolf, we are very into the lympics here as well. Perhaps you could find an Olympic sport to develop as your midlife crisis? I personally have always fancied the modern pentathlon.

In other news my conjunctivitis is now officially bacterial and getting heavy duty antibiotics. I look like a mole.

Just watching the wee Lithuanian 15 year old who's just won a gold in the swimming. Wow.

Rolf Tue 31-Jul-12 11:34:17

Dots, the pentathlon is more realistic than gymnastics (there'd have to be a separate event for the norks) but my favourite event so far is women's air pistol. They were so completely in the zone and focused.

I'm sure it's been asked before, but why don't the male beach volleyball players compete in skimpies? How can the women's event have credibility when the clothes so obviously serve differing purposes?

Are our best James Bonds trying to find out if there's a performance-enhancing drug that is undetectable by the tests currently in use?

Hope Dots eyes are feeling better soon. You won't be allowed near the unwell public like that will you?

My children are all off doing activities today and I am loving the silence. It's going to be just me and the girls for most of August (DH is taking the boys for a male adventure) - wish me luck!

LotsofDots Wed 01-Aug-12 12:01:36

Have a strange vision of the norms gymnastics now rolf.

The beach volleyball outfits are ridiculous. They have funny thermal layers when it's wet or cold, did you see them?

The unwell public are not normally subjected to me too much anyway, as I am mainly in a dark room looking at pictures, but I have come home after making a feeble attempt at going to work. I seem to have managed to get a flu like virus as well. I am crumbling.

Systems, hope you are getting nice weather for your visitors. It's crap in Glasgow.

PrincessOfWails Thu 02-Aug-12 10:53:39

I reckon at my stage in life, pistol shooting is the only realistic Olympic sport to aspire to, in the absence of useful things like laundry, toddler wrestling, school run etc! I saw one flag bearer in the opening ceremony with a big beer belly, and he was shooting. I already have the physique.

Currently in London, and off for a week in south Wales on Saturday! Will do a proper post from my computer soon!

Did you see one of the women shooters was 8 months pg? Respect!

Had crappy weather for visitors, but soft play and pizza making kept us busy indoors. Lovely today, as they left this morning, typical! Still I has taken today as leave so could at least enjoy it.

I am becoming obsessed with the shitness of so much contemporary work, so much so that I am thinking of making it my other big research focus.

Hope the eyes are settling now dots...

LotsofDots Sun 05-Aug-12 20:41:19

The eyes have just about recovered, as have I after also having something like flu for 4 days. Now on call this weekend. Yuck. Managed to see the athletics last night though, which was amazing!

PrancingBuffalo Mon 06-Aug-12 17:13:15

I used to be Whinegums/BuggerofSurburbia. One DS, Barnaby, the last entrant to the June 08 thread born 07/07/08. We're still in Glasgow. I was made redundant when on mat leave, but got a better job anyway. I don't want to jinx it, but it's likely I'm about to become head of my department. No school for us until next August.

Systems, there are still sleep issues here too, do I have the only child on the thread who has never, and I mean never, slept a whole night through?

Dots, hope you are feeling better. Today was my first day back at work after surgery to fix post birth damage. That's a whole other story...

LotsofDots Mon 06-Aug-12 20:15:51

I wondered if that was the op you referred to on FB. I remember you mentioning it before and gearing up to go and see someone about it. Well done for getting it sorted! Didn't think you'd appreciate being asked on FB!

Have had a lovely normal day today with no illness, no whining from the DDs, who generally managed to play nicely together, a trip to Dobbies garden centre with a friend (who is also a primary teacher and therefore DD1 is in awe and on best behaviour when she is around!) we also had a play date next door for Dd1 while DD2 was asleep, so I got an hour and a half of me time! Hooray!

I now need to focus on finishing the blanket that I am making for my Mum for her 60th next Tuesday. It has been nearly finished for weeks, and I keep putting it off. Better get darning in ends. I also need to decide how I am going to decorate her cake. I have a feeling she might see through my stick chocolate fingers round the outside tactic.

Rolf Tue 07-Aug-12 13:53:45

Buffalo - good for you getting the surgery. I hope it's sorted things out. I was booked in for a TVT a few months ago but I had to cancel it when my Dad became ill. I'm hoping to be able to get it done next year.

Glad the eyes are better, Dots.

If anyone has any advice on this I'd be awfully grateful!

PrancingBuffalo Tue 07-Aug-12 18:32:45

Rolf, I'm so sorry about your dad. I hope you get his house sorted out. And I hope you're ok. There's a thread with lots of chat about various repairs, you might find it helpful here I didn't have TVT, and I think I had a different problem from you, but I'm glad I've had the surgery - already a lot better!

Dots, there is nothing wrong with chocolate fingers! You could always tie a naice bow around it. I almost said to you to come up to the ward when you spotted my 'view from my hospital window' pic on FB, but I wasn't really up for any good chat at that point.

I'm unexpectedly loving the Olympics, so much so I'm planning on getting tickets for the Commonwealth Games. Until now I was thinking we'd escape Glasgow when it was on.

LotsofDots Tue 07-Aug-12 19:20:47

We are already excited about the commonwealth games. We might volunteer to Do Stuff, as well as go to some events. Cycling, gymnastics and rowing will be our top picks!

FormbyDoula Wed 08-Aug-12 10:43:47

Hi! You can probably work out I used to be Neenz.

I went to Commonwealth Games in Manchester and it was great. Might try to get tickets for Glasgow.

I'm on way to Olympics now to watch handball! Very excited.

I'm on my phone so it's not easy to write much!

abdnhiker Wed 08-Aug-12 18:21:50

Hi, I'm not creative enough to change names! Ds2 was born on the 7th of June and ds1 is two years older. It's back to school time here in a few days - i've been lax in sorting uniforms etc! How do people feel about the kIds starting reception in sept? I'm really glad to be up here where f has another year in nursery. Ds1 enjoyed school last year but the teachers gave him a hard time for fidgetting and when I said he as only five they said "well if he was in England he'd have gone a year early" which filled me with dread (besides being annoyed because we're not in England and most of the rest of the world starts at six so five is still young!).

Lots of Olympic tv on here - I think we're going to try to get to a hold postbox soon! There's two relatively nearby apparently.

Sorry for everyone's job crap - I had a similar horrid time when I went back when F turned one and ended up quitting my government research job and staying home for a year. I've been working in industry now for the past two years and I'm so much happier (and financially we're much less stressed).

abdnhiker Wed 08-Aug-12 18:22:46

Apologies for the spelling! I'm on my phone!

Very sorry for your loss, Rolf. Good to see you got some useful advice on your thread, hope you get it sorted.

Abdn, good to see you! And glad that you have a job which works now! I have very strong feelings about reception, some children have to start Too Young and are expected to do things they are simply not capable of. I have a rather traumatised nearly six year old boy here as a result, he has not enjoyed the first 2 years of school at all. There may be other stuff going on - we are in the middle of a diagnostic process with him, possibly borderline ASD - but it might also 'just' be that he wasn't ready for school when he had to start. We are now hoping that his reputedly brilliant year 2 teacher will be able to improve things. Still, it's nice to have the summer holidays when he can unwind and I get my boy back! Not so worried about dd starting, I think she is ready.

At my mum's for a week's holiday now - lovely weather, big garden, and someone looking after us - bliss!

PrincessOfWails Sun 12-Aug-12 20:36:08

Hello all, I was away on holiday last week. Lovely!
Rolf - sorry to hear about your loss. I don't know what else to say so it sounds a bit rubbish really.
Also, sorry to hear about the ops - Buffalo too - and can I join in? I'm a regular attendee at the lovely (!) Childbirth Damage clinic here!! I was proper trashed by DS2, who was a whopper with big shoulders. I'm being lighthearted but actually it's quite serious; torn to shreds etc. I have an open offer to have surgery to repair it, but I'm umming and ahing about it really. Right now, it would apparently be 'cosmetic surgery' (and yes, ladies, that would be a designer vagina on the NHS). But in 10, 15 years time, it might not be cosmetic at all; but it would also be too late. However, no repair job for me if I am going to wreck it all having another baby (undecided), but I've also been told that I should not have another baby vaginally (not helping with any decisions).
Some self-help, though: to help with the ol' pelvic floor, and also my saggy mummy tummy, I'm starting the MuTu system this week. Will report back!

I've had a mixed sort of weekend. I gave DS2 his last bf yesterday morning - largely because he did not care! Sob!
I had a lovely time yesterday and this morning with two schoolfriends, both with children the same age as Iestyn, and one younger one each as well! But one of them lost her mum - my 'second mother' as I used to say! - very unexpectedly and rather young just before Easter. She is orphaned now - her dad was killed in a road accident far too young when we were 11. It's so sad, but she's doing brilliantly - she has her two boys - and DS1 and her DS1 are close friends.
But the far more difficult bit. A recap - some of you may remember my cousin Karen, who has been fighting breast cancer for 2 1/2 years now. She has a little girl who will be five in October. Well, she has secondary cancer in her liver, and they told her last week that there is nothing more they can do. No timescale - could be tomorrow, could be 12 months or more (just looking at her today, as a non-expert, I...well...what do I know.) She is ultra cheerful - and always has been, that was the way she was dealing with it. But.

abdnhiker Mon 13-Aug-12 06:57:25

Wails - sorry to hear about your cousin, I remember you telling us about her.

As for post-birth vaginas, I'm okay (its scarred and crooked but fine) except I can't run anymore. I know i should be going for physio but the thought of adding another appt to my list fills me with dread. I'm just barely hanging in there with the workload/kids etc as it is. I will have time in a year when f is in school but perhaps then it's too late....

What's the MuTu system?

I'm heading down to London tomorrow for a day trip but not staying overnight unfortunately. 6am flight sucks....

Systems - has ds had a good summer? I think I'm the one whose enjoyed the break the most - no worrying and dealing with teachers. DS1 enjoys school on the whole so that's okay but he's not been pushed academically because they think he can't focus when really he's just bored. I'd be way more upset if he wasn't happy. (are second children generally more ready? Ds2 is learning so much from DS1, including how to read and maths, that he's academically ready for primary one already (but has the attention span of a midge so it's good he's got another year at nursery!)

PrincessOfWails Mon 13-Aug-12 22:39:37

Abdn I will report back on this system, but MuTu (short for Mummy Tummy I think!) is a 12 week programme to get your body back, and there's also a shorter, more focused one as well.
I need to sort out my mummy tummy, but also the pelvic floor issue won't get better by itself. I should have had physio, loads of it, as part of the NHS follow up for childbirth damage (I'm going to abbreviate - I hate typing that because I shudder each time!) but it never happened, despite me, my MW and my HV making follow up calls. So if I can avoid it...

Hope the London trip is good! I'm off midweek for a couple of weeks before school starts.

Amberc Tue 14-Aug-12 07:21:55

Hi all!! Not changed my name either as haven't the wit or intelligence! Luke is starting school in September - very ready as has really been going for about 2 years anyway at kindergarten. Madeleine and Isabella are 19 months and driving me up the wall in one way or another all the time! Lovely girls though for the most. Starting training in September to be a teaching assistant (as long as I get copies of my gcse certain in maths and English - down to one last awarding body now - others say they don't have them - why did u throw them away???!!!).

Anyway - now need to work out who is who from facebook and shall return with comments on comments!! X

LotsofDots Tue 14-Aug-12 09:11:20

Sorry to hear about all the post baby damage, I seem to have escaped fairly lightly fortunately. I am going to have at look at your MuTu link wails sounds like something I require, although I doubt it can do much for the post baby boobs!

I remember you telling us about your cousin wails, I'm so sorry to hear about her prognosis.

amber best of luck finding your certificates!

I am off to my grandparents house today to celebrate my Mum's 60th birthday. I have made her cake, which was stressful, as C was desperate to 'help'! Hopefully it will taste good, that's the important thing, isn't it!?

PrancingBuffalo Tue 14-Aug-12 17:20:27

Wails, hmm, that sounds like some v odd info you've been given about being 'too late' to have a repair. If you don't have it done right now, you could still have it done before the 10 year time limit that has been imposed. From the thread I linked to, there seem to be lots of odd things that women are told about repairs. I can totally understand waiting until you've decided about another baby, however, there are MNers who have had surgery and then gone on to have more children by c-section.

abdn My experience of physio was that I waited ages for an appointment, got assesed by the physio, who found I could do the PFEs perfectly, and sent me away to do them for a few weeks. They can provide machines etc if you can't do the exercises, or can't do them properly. However, no amount of PFEs were going to help with the internal tear that I had, and the physio was v quick to refer me onto a urogynae.

Hope the birthday party was good Dots.

Wave to everyone else.

Rolf Thu 16-Aug-12 10:15:40

Wails I'm very sorry to hear about Karen's prognosis. And your poor friend whose mum died.

I had physio and whilst she saw an improvement in muscle tone there was no corresponding improvement in my symptoms. I'm contra-indicated for the cone things you can use yourself. The only way forward is the TVT. I did a lot of flapping about it - I didn't like the thought of a strange thing inside me and the side effects and risks are all things I don't like to think about. But it would be lovely to not be so leaky.

I'm also thinking (fairly seriously) about getting my tummy fixed! We'd need to put a lot of planning into both operations as it would mean me being out of action for while and I'd need to pay for the new tummy myself. It's way beyond being saved by exercise - 4 finger diastasis, umbilical hernia and an awful lot of loose skin, and general weakness and some pain. Oddly enough, after spending a week in critical care when my Dad was dying, some of my daft body issues have stopped bothering me so much. So if I get it done it will be for much healthier reasons.

Good luck with the documents Amber! Much as I love my own children, I would rather eat my own arm than spend my day with other people's!

Buffalo what's the 10 year limit all about?

goingtoofast Tue 21-Aug-12 12:52:28

Hi, goingfor3 here.

wails really sorry to hear your cousin is unwell again sad.

PrancingBuffalo Ds is a crap sleeper too, still in my bed!

DD1 starts secondary school in Spetember. She seems grown up for primary school but she is going to feel tiny at secondary school especially as she is one of the smallest in her year group - up until about 18 months ago she was on the 50th centil now she is on the 15th - am hoping she will grow one day!
Nothing much is changing with DD2.
DS starts primary school in September. He has some speech issues which does worry me. He is going to the same school as the girls who are/have done very well at but I have not had any experince of what they are like with kids who need extra support.

LotsofDots Mon 27-Aug-12 08:44:41

Come on people, we're not doing well here with our revitalised thread!?

Are any of you in the vicinity of the Essex Lion?

We are of for a trip to the dentist this morning. I'm sure Dorothy will enjoy it.

PrincessOfWails Wed 29-Aug-12 08:54:32

.Hello! Apologies for the extended delay- in London, not on the computer much! Also I do copyediting in the evenings- in the absence of a proper job i'm freelancing as proofreader and copyeditor.
Still in London and off on a pirate fun day on the Golden Hinde this afternoon!
Week 3 of MuTu now and I can already see an improvement in my pf ( Rolf, the system is also supposed to help with diastasis, but I don't have one).

Back on a regular basis once i'm in Wales again!

Rolf Thu 30-Aug-12 13:24:28

My children LOVE going to the dentist. She is very young and trendy and wears bright trainers. They all race in, yaddering away, and only stop talking when she's looking at their teeth. She's fab!

Wails the MuTu system looks good. What is the nutritional advice? Are you finding it worth the money (it's quite pricey isn't it)?

LotsofDots Sat 01-Sep-12 22:04:53

Well, C loves the dentist because she gives her stickers of Rapunzel. Dot refused to open her mouth until I remembered to tell her that her beloved Peppa opened her mouth for the dentist. Job done!

abdnhiker Mon 03-Sep-12 20:46:56

Happy back to school for everyone down south - and good luck to all the reception starters! We've two new kids in DS1's P1/P2 class from the English system and they're both "repeating" a year due to their birthdays. It'll be interesting to get their mums perspective on how much was new and how much wasn't, so far it seems the one in P2 isn't really that much ahead of our P2s (I wish we had an All-day play based curriculum like Scandinavia here!)

I've just signed up to do a 50mile charity bike ride at the end of the month. Eek! I haven't ridden that far since before DS1 so I'm a bit nervous. I did 25 miles yesterday and it was lovely but this is twice as far. With my luck I'll probably have to pee the whole time (seriously one of the things I'm stressing about). Anyways, now that it's been 4 years since I was pregnant I'm feeling like I can't use the mummy-card to explain my lack of fitness so I am trying hard to get back to my pre-kid shape. (with the help of a good bra - not naked pre-kid shape).

Hi all! Back to school for ds this morning - he went in OK but we had an hour long screaming / scratching meltdown last night sad - starting year 2. But his teacher spotted me arriving carrying him and made a point of welcoming him and straightaway giving him a 'job' of looking after a new boy, plus someone gave him a birthday present (was his party Sunday), so fingers crossed the day started all right for him ...

Caitlin's first day not till Monday, the Reception teachers spend this week visiting kids at home, they are with us tomorrow lunchtime - I fear I will be up till midnight hoovering!! I'm looking forward to her starting, getting a bit fed up of constantly playing schools at home (she was doing it outside ds' door last night when he was screaming, which didn't help much!)

In other news, inspired by all your MuTu, bike rides etc talk, saw a personal trainer at the work gym yesterday in my latest attempt to retrieve just a little of my pre-children fitness. Just questionnaires and chat, first real session Monday...

Rolf Thu 06-Sep-12 13:39:36

Abdn I'm impressed at your cycling, and agree with you about schooling. Especially for summer-borns, they start far too young in the UK.

Systems poor you dealing with that tantrum. DD1 has had a couple of massive meltdowns recently. On the one hand, it's really exhausting, on the other it makes me realise how much better she is than she was 18 months ago <Pollyanna!>. DD2's teacher is visiting tomorrow and the room Thea wants to take her into is really dusty!

abdnhiker Sun 09-Sep-12 16:42:14

I don't think I'd let DS1's teachers in my house- way too stressful!

Fraser's been sick again with a respiratory thing whuch was scray and work's been busy - I need a beer (i gave up wine after my mother drank me under the table over Easter and I had to spend the next day completely hungover with my parents. If my tolerance is too low to drink with my mom- I shouldn't be drinking. On the positive, I've lost four pounds since I gave up wine).

I should go clean my house- its at the desperate stage for clutter. Hope this thread doesn't die and we can keep it going....

Well Caitlin has had her first morning at school and it sounds great - apparently they had real live dinosaurs and she rode on one, but the tigers weren't very friendly! grin

Rolf Mon 10-Sep-12 22:53:49

Caitlin's school sounds AMAZING grin

Abdn do you ever do any skiing in Scotland? We're thinking about trying some cross-country skiing there this year. Hope Fraser's feeling better.

grin It is a pretty amazing school actually - we had an, ahem, interesting morning getting ds into school today (fortunately one of my friends stepped in and was the cavalry, taking Caitlin while I dealt with ds, but I still ended up covered in mud and nearly weeping) and his teacher, teaching assistant and deputy head this year all said very helpful, creative, supportive things about trying different things to put in place to help him. So, feeling the usual ongoing worry about him but very positive about the school!

We see the child psychologist next week sometime to discuss various assessments he had before the summer. I never thought I'd say this but I am hoping for an ASD diagnosis, it would just make sense of so much and would help a lot to have a label that the school could understand and work with.

I remember your worries about dd1 Rolf, glad to hear she is doing better now most of the time.

Fortunately, Caitlin trotted into Reception perfectly happily (though she did have the screaming abdabs for an hour last night - knackered and processing it all I think). Hope other new schoolies are settling OK!

Rolf Tue 11-Sep-12 13:34:05

If you want to have a chat/email about some of the strategies that have helped with DD1, let me know smile. Although right now I feel as though we're back to where we started, we're not really. We've had help from a child psych, ed psych, speech and language and the behaviour support team (who worked closely with the class TA on setting up a friendship group). We've had a lot of help and been very lucky but it's a really hard slog.

LotsofDots Tue 11-Sep-12 18:19:00

Drowning in studying at the moment, hope all of you with reception class starters are coping! I have 3 more weeks until my final exam, so just waving really.

PrincessOfWails Thu 13-Sep-12 22:33:17

Quick in and out- bad week last week as absolutely everyone except Iestyn caught a bug!
Also- might as well just come out with it. Karen died on Sunday.

Rolf Fri 14-Sep-12 10:54:41

I'm so so sorry to hear that. I hope Karen's family can find comfort and peace.

LotsofDots Sat 15-Sep-12 20:13:23

I'm sorry to hear that. May she rest in peace.

abdnhiker Sat 15-Sep-12 22:10:50

Sorry to hear your news - hugs.

Rolf, last year we had no snow but the year before some friends of ours did quite a bit of cross country skiing around here. I'd say the snows not great for it but I've been spoiled where I've lived before.

We're all healthy at the moment which is great - after Fraser was sick for two months solid last year I tend to get overly worried about him now so it's nice to see him bounce back this time. Dh and I were out last night at a show seeing a favourite cdn folk singer that's actually touring near us (this never happens - we're pretty far off the normal track). It was a great show, we were right at the front, and he even took a picture of us with him at the end saying it was nice to meet canadians and have a few fans in an audience that otherwise didn't know him. He was probably just being polite but it was very cool!

So sorry Wails x been thinking of you

How's school going for the new starters? I am finding getting 2 of them in in the mornings on time something of a struggle I must admit, especially towards the end of the week when ds has had more than enough!!

ktpie Mon 01-Oct-12 10:14:06

Sorry to hear about your cousin Wails. xx

After my initial post we went on holiday and I haven't been back to catch up. I've written a website so tend to be busy tinkering with that when I'm on the computer, book lovers take a look: bookiio. I'd be interested in any comments, and if you can submit any book reviews then I will love you forever!

J is loving being back at school. Full time now and he seems to be coping very well. I was expecting him to be shattered by the end of the week but he's even managing to go to sports club after school on a Friday.
It really helps that it is a foundation unit in the school so he has been there for a year already just doing mornings, and he is still in the same classroom with the same teachers. Have any other kids been to a foundation unit? H can't wait to start there in April (roll on April!).

We've all got colds here, there is a constant torrent of snot from H's nose, lovely.

Hello there, nice to see some familiar facessmile Haven't had a name change either. DD Fleur was born 30 May after induction because of high BP. Not living in Gran Canaria anymore but in Netherlands. DD started school in September and is loving it. Me, I am still a teacher but now in university teaching. Currently 37 weeks pregnant and this one is going down same route as last. High BP and doing 24 hr urine at mo cause protein present so looks like we could have another little girl very soon! Great to hear from you all

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