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July 2011 - Feeding, sleeping, burping!

(217 Posts)
Eglu Fri 16-Sep-11 21:04:21

Hi all,

I thought I'd better start us a postnatal thread, since it's now September.

Think we should have a list of babies.

Eglu - DD - 26th June

JimmyChoo17 Fri 16-Sep-11 21:59:33

Just weeing on new thread to Mark my spot smile

For those of u that have had your first period since birth/post natal bleeding stopped....is it normal to be miles heavier and longer?

Baby first jabs next week. I'm changing dr so bubs has better medical care I have no confidence in my surgery plus there is a. Receptionist who says no to your appointments but if u ring during another shift you get them. She's a nightmare. Plus all the trouble I've had with them (lost a baby due to a drs neglect!) I daren't risk it with Oliver.found a great drs to go to tho and he is a paediatrician too just seems weird as I've been with my drs since birth. My sister nearly lost her womb due to their incompetence so it's about time!

Hope everyone is well! I've not been able to catch up on here so much as mostly any chance to get on net is on mobile and this doesn't load too well so usually use the facebook page but miss some of u that r only on here!

Button, I hope u r doing ok now?

I've had issues with random nursing strikes but am working with him to keep him feeding it's going well so far.

Anyone use baby sleeping bags? Can u tuck the loose bit under them so their feet are at the bottom of the cot? He is still in blankets in his basket but am thinking of moving his cot in our room as he loves being able to starfish in the space. Like his mummy smile

Gone onto ceracette mini pill and seem to be piling on pounds all of a sudden!??? Anyone else had this with this pill? I'm exercising (light as can still feel internal scars from c section) and not eating bad at all? And I'm breastfeeding so can only think pill is doing this?

JimmyChoo17 Fri 16-Sep-11 22:00:36

Oo sorry

JimmyChoo - DS - 22 July

buttonmoon78 Sat 17-Sep-11 11:10:14

It's that lovely clean sheet feeling again!

Eglu - DD - 26th June
Buttonmoon78 - DS - 16 July
JimmyChoo - DS - 22 July

Doing loads better now thanks Jimmy though I am beginning to think I maybe did crack some ribs after all! I'm on the injection. No periods at all - yay! Hope your nursing strike ends soon, I've been following your thread.

DS still piling on the pounds but got nasty reflux which we're struggling with.

I am in total awe of your ds liking to starfish though. DS still needs full swaddling!

However, last night he slept from 11.30 til 5am. I appreciate that someone will come along soon and say '5.5 hrs? dc is doing 12 at a stretch' but it's a huge achievement for us grin

broomformychin Sat 17-Sep-11 11:13:43

May I join?
DD 13 July.

broomformychin Sat 17-Sep-11 11:16:20

Argh I'm tired she was born on 14 July!

Eglu Sat 17-Sep-11 13:27:02

Welcome broomformychin.

Jimmy with a sleeping bag you don't really need to put them at the bottom of the cot. That is just to stop them slipping under the blankets. I love sleeping bags as my boys always kicked their covers off. They still do age 8 and 4, and end up with their duvets in the bottom of their covers. grin

*Button DD will not sleep at all even in the daytime if not swaddled. DS2 was swaddled for 4 months though, so I'm not expecting anything else.

buttonmoon78 Sat 17-Sep-11 13:45:08

All of mine have until at least 6 months. People go a bit hmm when they see a whopping baby fully swaddled but as they'd wake up if not I never cared. The only issue is I've been given some gorgeous 0-6m sleeping bags and they're barely going to see any use!

Welcome Broom. I keep telling everyone ds was born on 15th as he was due to be induced then. They were too busy so it ended up being the next day but my poor brain forgets that blush

Today has not been so bad reflux-wise. He's still been as sick but not as much in pain for some reason.

Ljll Sat 17-Sep-11 14:24:00


May I join?
DS born 30 June (2 weeks early)

I used to lurk on the July pregnancy thread... smile

DS loves being swaddled so we do that and then put a summer sleep bag over the top. Does Anyone swaddle and use a sleep bag as well? If so do u swaddle first or the other way around Iukwim?!

JimmyChoo17 Sat 17-Sep-11 16:08:40

Ouch! Cracked ribs r painful. Glad u r feeling better tho. Oh and button jealous of your 5.5 hours...longest he goes is 4 hours! Im not too worried as is usually only for a 10 min feed then he is off again until 630/7am. Just hoping he does eventually sleep thru. He's getting better than was. Would love to know what he has to giggle in his sleep about tho. Button, can u not take your sleeping bags back tot the shop and swap for bigger ones? I've done that for loads of things as we got bought so much 0-3 month stuff. Asda was best as took loads of stuff back with a view to getting a bigger size on same thing but they gave me vouchers instead so I got stuff for him that he needed instead.

He has never liked swaddling he screamed loads in hospital when they did...took his arms out....and he was a happy chappy...does get cold hands tho, put mitts on but he soon has them off.

Thanks for info about sleeping bags Ladies.

Welcome to the newbies!

Am chilling out in the house this weekend and putting up a big fat do not disturb sign too so it's just us. Pure bliss! I've become a bit of a domestic goddess this week cooking some yummy foods too. I'm fitting the housewife role a little too well. I'm ready to become a kept woman grin I went into work this week. I don't miss it but know that I will be looking forward to going back as I do like it and will be earning money for my little family again, but I also know it's going to be so hard leaving him sad I need a lotto win sharpish...10 months to go - boooooo! I'm hoping to move hours about and do a day from home. Can't afford to go back part time unfortunately.

Anyone fed up of all the Xmas ads yet? I'm excited for his first Xmas so I can go stupid on things he really doesn't need but think the chocolate santas showing their faces in august in supermarkets was bad.

SpannerPants Sat 17-Sep-11 18:00:07

Eglu - DD - 26th June
Ljil - DS - 30th June
broomformychin - DD - 14th July
SpannerPants - DS - 14th July
Buttonmoon78 - DS - 16th July
JimmyChoo17 - DS - 22nd July

Hi ladies, thanks Eglu for starting the thread!

No periods here yet thank god, not looking forward to them restarting. I'm not using any contraception yet but DP and I are just holding hands for now - my episiotomy scar is still pretty sore blush I thought it would be feeling better by now but it feels bruised and achy and hurts if I sit directly on it sad

DS had his jabs on Tuesday and was really mardy for 2 days and had me up most of Thursday night so I drove over to my parents in my zomblie-like state and they looked after him while I had a nap for 2hrs - bliss! And last night he surprised me by sleeping from 10pm - 6am, although my boobs woke me at 5 because they were so engorged that the left one had leaked through the pad and was dripping onto my chest/neck! He's pretty good at night and usually sleeps from 9-3/4ish but doesn't sleep in the day unless he's on me.

I'm still using nipple shields to feed, keep trying without but DS has no idea how to latch on properly and will just lick my nipples, bit frustrating but using shields isn't the end of the world. I can even put them on under a muslin in public now! We're thinking about taking part in the EAT study but DP read in the information they sent us that you can't go out of the country (even to Scotland!) for 3yrs while the study is ongoing so I need to ask them why, I'm not going without a holiday for 3 years.

We went to an NCT nearly new sale today to stock up on 3-6 month clothes - got just about everything we need (plus a few toys and a swaddle blanket) for £19 so I'm chuffed with that grin

Hope everyone is well!

scarthy1975 Sun 18-Sep-11 12:15:18

Eglu - DD - 26th June
Ljil - DS - 30th June
broomformychin - DD - 14th July
SpannerPants - DS - 14th July
Buttonmoon78 - DS - 16th July
JimmyChoo17 - DS - 22nd July
Scarthy1975 - DS - 23rd July

Good to hear all our babies are settling in nicely! DS is still EBF and usually wakes about 3/4am to have a feed but is only awake for about 15mins so not too bad. TBH DS1 is waking earlier at the moment and I thought starting school would stop that!

I've used a sleeping since he was about 5 weeks old when he went into his cot and his own room. Used them with DS1 and found them to be a godsend. Never swaddled either of them as never sure I was doing it right - both mine get cold hands too Jimmy but it doesn't seem to bother them.

Hope you are ok Button after your accident.

JimmyChoo17 Mon 19-Sep-11 14:57:43

8week jabs/blood curdling scream done! He's ever so unsettled this afternoon now poor thing.

isitreallythattime Mon 19-Sep-11 16:51:54

Eglu - DD - 26th June
Ljil - DS - 30th June
isitreallythattime - DD - 12th July
broomformychin - DD - 14th July
SpannerPants - DS - 14th July
Buttonmoon78 - DS - 16th July
JimmyChoo17 - DS - 22nd July
Scarthy1975 - DS - 23rd July

Just had tongue tie snip today. Thankfully they asked me to leave room. Was fine other than she wouldnt feed after. Will see how she gets on. Feeding/sleeping is becoming an obsesion now. All i want her to do is feed happily and sleep lots hmm as i am sure we all do. Really annoying as she was having dream feed at 11 and sleep till 5 having a very small feed then sleeping till 7 ish. Now she has reverted back to waking between 2 and 4. She has a cold so thats probably not helping. Still in our room although is going to be too big for basket very soon. Dreading her going in nursery tho as will mean i have to wake up and go to another room to feed her, where as at moment i can just do it half asleep, also her room is near ds so she will prob wake him.

How is everyone doing with DPs? We are nearly at breaking point. sad

SpannerPants Mon 19-Sep-11 17:51:08

DP and I had a big bustup at the weekend about the food shopping of all things! We had a good chat and have both agreed we need to help each other out more, I've been trying to carry on doing everything at home but not managing to do a proper job of anything. I'm finding the change from being at work to being a mum much harder than I thought I would!

Hope you're ok Isitreallythattime - I'm sure your DD will improve once her cold has gone and she can breathe better.

Eglu Mon 19-Sep-11 18:41:50

Jimmy I've got the 12 week jabs next week. 8 weeks ones went not too bad, so hopefully will be the same again.

Isit I get wound up with DH a fair bit due to tiredness. But DH is used to me, and as it's the 3rd child we just get on with it. I am particularly annoyed that DH is not helping get DD to take a bottle. Especially as he wants us to go to a party in 2 weeks for a friend of his.

buttonmoon78 Mon 19-Sep-11 21:39:28

We've been to breaking point and have headed back the other way. For eg, on Saturday, I went charging into the kitchen to wash all the bottles, to find that he'd done it without me saying a word shock. He's also getting better at doing night-time things. If I've been up before, then if S wakes at say 4/5, he'll take him and try to settle him to I can get a bit more kip. Don't get me wrong, he's still an insensitive git, but he's trying!

I've had a few meltdowns in the last week or so. I'm trying to do too many things and not doing any of them well. I think this is what is prompting this new dh. He realises that he's asking a lot of me and is desperate to avoid me slipping towards pnd.

isit I really hope you see an improvement. Sleeping is an obsession here too. After Saturday night's amazing 5.5hr stretch, he was a complete toerag last night. Mind you, ds1 has got a rotten cold so I'm thinking S might be going that way too.

We've got 8wk jabs tomorrow but I'm thinking of postponing tbh. He's so troubled by his reflux, the gaviscon creating massive constipation, and I'm beginning to wonder about cow's milk protein intolerance. He's always got dreadful wind. Tonight it got to the point where his stomach was audibly growling and I could feel the knots in his tummy through his clothes and swaddling. Poor love was shrieking in pain sad I think that perhaps to add the jabs in as well at this point might just be a little bit too much for him.

So we also have an appointment with the gp tomorrwo when I shall ask about all these things.

For all those struggling with dh/dps, it will get better.

nicolamumof3 Mon 19-Sep-11 21:54:54

Yaaay we've finally got postnatal grin

hello my lovelys. I really ought to change my name hadn't i but i don't have the time!

Im mostly on fb but wanted to check in here.

DD is nearly 9w, I am joing a buggy workout class tomorrow a bit nervous as im crap at meeting new people but we'll see how it goes.

DD still a lovely baby very good, sleeping well. DH and i take turns on the night feed as she only wakes once so its pretty manageable. Life is bloody chaotic tho with four children theres not denying it. DS3 just went full time at school today very sad about that, i miss him. But hoping to get in a good daytime routine now with dd.

Oh your poor ds button sad

DD is very sick after her bottles she seems to be bring loads back up, not sure if this is normal or 'o.k' the boys were greedy and didn't waste a drop. She rarelly cries for a feed, always goes four hourly in day. Boys were never like this it certainly is all different this time around. Despite this im finding it an uphill struggle to keep up with everything and I have a very co operative and hands on dh as well. I suppose this is life now isn't it when you have four kids?

prolificwillybreeder Tue 20-Sep-11 11:58:59

Hi all! I found you!
How are we?
How you doing button? So sorry DS' reflux is still awful. Have you tried osteopathy. I understand completely it's not everyone's cup of tea but thought i'd put it out there. Button I don't know if your FF or BF but SMA do a LF formula you can get in boots. I tried this with DS2 before we could get dairy free formula on prescription.

Nicola- I feel bad and embarrassed to even think I find 2 chaos! You sound like you are doing amazingly! I find just getting out the house an uphill struggle. Then both boys need feeding, bottle feeding ds2 and spoon feeding a 14 month old it's madness! I panic when one or both of them kick off. I force myself out to town once a week, it then takes me a week to recover! Like wading through treacle I feel sad

prolificwillybreeder Tue 20-Sep-11 12:07:09

Spanner- had a similar bust up with dp recently we are now making a big effort to improve.
Hi Eglu! Hope you are well.
Isthat- ds2 has a cold too it's horrible. Poor thing. Am giving him saline nasal spray before every feed.
Hi Jimmy! I've just moved ds2 over to sleeping bags. He was happy swaddled but wriggles so much, he was getting himself free and then the blanket was everywhere! <sigh>

So sorry, I know I've missed people but must dash DS1 needs lunch!

prolificwillybreeder Tue 20-Sep-11 12:08:41

Oh oh can someone add me:

PWB- DS-16th July

isitreallythattime Tue 20-Sep-11 14:00:49

Eglu - DD - 26th June
Ljil - DS - 30th June
isitreallythattime - DD - 12th July
broomformychin - DD - 14th July
SpannerPants - DS - 14th July
Buttonmoon78 - DS - 16th July
PWB- DS-16th July
JimmyChoo17 - DS - 22nd July
Scarthy1975 - DS - 23rd July

Thanks for replies re DPs. Makes me feel a little less inadequate knowing that Im not alone in the cross households. I think with mine, although he is very helpful on the practical front and will do his fair share of sorting bottles in evening, dishwasher etc, its the fact that he has not offered to do nighttime feeds once, and will often miss dream feeds as he nods off in front of telly.
I the morning it is the usual battle of ive had no sleep, and ive had less sleep than you have, blah blah blah.

Getting into bad habbit of sleeping in sep rms as we both sleep better and just basically mornings are negative and manic, then evenings we are both manic getting sorted then i am extra snappy because im so tired.

I know it is fairly normal to get like this due to tiredness but im concerned its more than that.

Hey ho, onwards and upwards. I have two very beautiful children now so i mustnt grunmble.

Have you tried massaging babies tummies when they get uncomfortable? I am no massage expert but i have heard it can help?

buttonmoon78 Tue 20-Sep-11 14:20:23

We now have a prescription for ranitidine so we're off the gaviscon (yay). Saw another gp in our practice who is more forward thinking - said if I knew the risks/benefits balance and thought it worthwhile then he wasn't going to stand in my way. Said I knew what I was about what with this being #4 and all, and said he appreciated that with dh being away all the time it wasn't healthy for me to be dealing with such a pain-full baby.

So we're trying that as of this afternoon. He also suggested using anti-colic bottles. Checked out the price in Tesco this afternoon shock!!

nicolamumof3 Tue 20-Sep-11 18:05:36

what bottles do you use button? I was using the ctn tommee tippee but felt the big too teat covered under dd's nose,so switched to MAM but too many parts/leaky now on Avent!

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 07:05:44

The same tt ones as you were. Looked at the tt anti colic plus ones in Tesco and when I came home I looked up some reviews. Apparently - dreadful! So I've gone with the power of the internet review and bought a couple of Dr Brown ones off Kiddicare. They were 11.49 for two which I really didn't think too bad for fancy bottles. If they work I'll get the quad pack too and some larger teats as that would again take me over the free delivery. I'll let you know how we get on! I found avent really good with ds1 though. I only used the tt ones as they were given to me!

Bought ds a new car seat (Britax Adventure £60 down to 30) to replace the one we threw away after the crash, and ds2 is now in my sister's cabriofix which incidentally seems to be better for his reflux than the creatis. Am now trying to buy some adaptors from ebay as I can't use it on the pushchair at the moment which is a total bind.

So, bottles and car seat arriving tomorrow - yay!

prolificwillybreeder Wed 21-Sep-11 10:56:45

Hurray button! Glad your parcels are coming tomorrow!
I was going to say I heard Dr Brown bottles are good.

Don't tell anyone but both dc are asleep!
Both have colds and one has conjunctivitis sad

DS2 is following the 25th centile... I have no idea what that means. Finally had our 6 week yesterday, at 9 weeks!

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 11:07:49

Since 6am this morning the washing machine has been filled twice with ds's sicky stuff. I've run out of drying space and he's run out of clothes. He is unstoppable!

Have spoken to the paed dept. They're reviewing his case this afternoon. Fingers crossed they'll think of something else!

pwb ds is asleep on me but I'm too frightened to put him down as his 'sheet' is currently a towel as he's sicked on all the others!

prolificwillybreeder Wed 21-Sep-11 11:15:12

Oh bless him! Poor you! Trying to stay on top of the washing is hard enough!
Fingers crossed they think of something!

Oh my poor snotty, gunk eyed children! Full of calpol and and eye drops. I'm having a sad moment that I can't take away their suffering.
sad blardy hormones!

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 11:21:08

Tell me about it. I'm slightly phobic about being sick yet I'm there crooning away to him that I'd take it away if I could and be sick myself etc etc. I'm lying. I wouldn't. But it's the thought that counts wink

Though I guess it'd be one way to lose some baby bulge!

prolificwillybreeder Wed 21-Sep-11 11:27:07

Haha I am awful with sick. And milk for that matter when DS is being winded I practically hold my breath!
I have a horrible sore throat... I think they have inflicted their bug on me sad

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 11:39:02

Poor you. Rest up (ha), plenty of fluids and paracetamol.

prolificwillybreeder Wed 21-Sep-11 11:56:27

The fluids and paracetamol can do DrButton!
I think there is some berocca here somewhere too.

I'm sad a few of DS2 newborn sleepsuits don't fit anymore sad <sob>

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 12:23:05

grin ds has just gone into 3-6! He was getting a bit long for 0-3 but I've started using the cloth nappies which are quite bulky.

I know, I know. I'm moaning about washing then creating more hmm

nicolamumof3 Wed 21-Sep-11 12:34:59

Morning all, oh its afternoon already grin

we have a maxi cosi cabriofix for dd button, she doesn't seem to keen on either the seat or the car, which is fortunate as i don't drive!

She had an hour in cot this morning but been restless ever since. For once im on top of housework so don't mind rocking her in chair. Just had lunch and off out in a bminute. Think i may be safe to put washing out. We have tons of the stuff. DD normally goes through four tops a day at least plus i use loads of muslins (bibs no good get soaked right through)

How much milk is ds having now button? DD seems quite hungry this morning. She was up at 7am its normally nearer 8, means she will be due her next (after having one at 11am) at 3pm right slap bang on school run time. Great!

Off to get her weighed this afternoon, she is just going into 0-3m 9 weeks old today.

PWB hope your dcs' better soon, hard work isn't it. I had a cold which lasted over a week last week i felt dreadful dh had to take a day off at beginning of week i couldn't move!

Take care all and have a good afternoon x

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 12:59:45

Hi nic. Going back over my notes he's been taking 28-33oz, over the past fortnight. Though keeping variable amounts down. I'm not neurotic about things like that generally, but I know when (if) I get to see the paed she'll ask so I'm keeping notes!

Well, that's another full set of clothes done. I am so fed up. The whole damn house smells of sick. I'm not even sure the ranitidine is working really. He wasn't so bad yesterday, but today he seems really uncomfortable when he's sick. And he's back to being grumpy when laid flat.

I just know that when the paed looks at his notes today she'll see a thriving baby and say we don't need to be seen, just put up with it. I'd love to see these drs walk a day in my shoes and still remain sane.

RunDMC Wed 21-Sep-11 13:27:37

button I have a reflux boy here too and I hear you on the washing. To be fair it seems reasonably mild - as in we're only losing 2 out of 6 bottles a day and he's not often sick at night as he seems more relaxed.

We're just at the infant gaviscon stage which to be honest I don't think is really having a great effect but what has made a huge difference is putting a wedge under his head and upper half in the pram where he sleeps during the day, and crib at night. I've put the back of his bouncy chair right up too so when he sits in it he is practically upright and that seems to help. Also have taken to putting it on the changing mat too as any time I lie him flat he's sick straightaway and he screams in pain (is content the rest of the time) and coughs. I find the crying too much to bear - it makes me cry as he's so obviously hurting.

It seems he has really bad acid as well as the sickness. Weirdly the sickness doesn't really seem to bother him so much but I guess the acid is burning his wee throat.

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 13:35:25

Have you tried a dummy? I've always been dead against them but it really does help with the acid production and general contentment.

I'm using wedges in everything and it is just not helping. I don't think it's the sickness that is bothering ds - like yours it's the acid I think. Although, I do put him to sleep on his side as if he's on his back the acid makes him choke.

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 13:36:08

Sorry - makes him choke and then he becomes very distressed.

RunDMC Wed 21-Sep-11 13:46:46

yes the dummy definitely helps him.

sorry to hear the wedges/raising don't help, it's a nightmare isn't it.

got my HV coming tomorrow for the first time (ds is 6 weeks so that's another story !) so will be interesting to see what her take on it all is. My GP was happy to prescribe the gaviscon and wants to see him again in a fortnight but I don't want to wait that long if he needs ranitidine or similar.

nicolamumof3 Wed 21-Sep-11 14:51:29

just went to get isla weighed and mentioned her being sick. She said it could be 'true reflux' whatever the difference is? as its something which has recently started (the being sick) as opposed to from birth? Anyway i don't think it is as she doesn't seem in pain at all. Just a sick baby i think.

Button i noticed the anti colic tt bottles are a third off in sainsbo's but think you are sorted now aren't you.

dd weighs 11lb, doesn't seem much does it for 9wks? What i exected tho. they don't seem concerned. She's just so different to the boys not a very hungry baby, always goes four hours in day and only one feed in night. So i guess she's not going to be huge? Just going to look for ds3's red book see what he weighed as there was only 3oz difference in their birth weights so be good comparison. Then off to school run. And dd is due her bottle now so lets hope she can wait!!

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 15:05:01

yes i decided against the tt ones after reading dire reviews. the worst people say about the dr brown ones is that they are a little fiddly to wash whereas the tt ones were leaky, easy to break, unreliable etc.

all mine have been wildly different!

am on tenterhooks waiting for paed clinic co-ordinator to call. i really hope they'll see him. i'm really beginning to feel a bit overwhelmed and bogged down by it all sad

i'm trying to formulate a considered response for if they say they won't see him but i know that i'll just cry in reality.

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 15:57:27

Hooray. They want to see him but not until next Friday (30th). So I'm on countdown until then.

RunDMC Wed 21-Sep-11 17:35:27

glad you have a date to work towards although sorry it's a week away.

forgive me if I've missed this but do you think he could also be allergic to the formula ? was he as sick when you were feeding him yourself ?

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 17:43:46

Quite a lot but not as much.

There is def a large element of reflux there (with the undigested sick after 2-3hrs etc) but I am wondering if there may be something else at play as without gaviscon he's bringing up large amounts of milk at the beginning of feeds too. I'm taking him off the ranitidine and putting him back onto the gaviscon for now, but I'm also trying the dr browns bottles as of tomorrow and also asking gp if sma staydown might be an option as apparently you can get it on prescription.

Happy days eh?!

nicolamumof3 Wed 21-Sep-11 19:52:58

oh button hope the 30th comes quickly for you.

hv was asking me lots of questions about isla's sick! But if she's happy in herself and comfortable i shouldn't be worried should i?

buttonmoon78 Wed 21-Sep-11 20:04:32

If she's happy and you're happy then I'd ignore anyone trying to worry you. As long as she's happy and thriving then she might just be a 'happy spitter'!

hefner Thu 22-Sep-11 16:43:24

Oh button, poor you and DS. I hope the paed appointment and new bottles help.

Things are finally starting to feel a bit less chaotic for me, although I'm still nowhere near getting any housework done. Don't know how you manage with more than one!

SpannerPants, we're using nipple shields too as DD has never been able to latch on. I'm also expressing after each feed and bottle feeding because she can't feed efficiently and stays hungry no matter how long she breast feeds for. I think we're starting to turn a corner though - a few times recently she has seemed full after breastfeeding for about an hour which is a massive improvement. I would love it if I could stop expressing, I hate spending hours hooked up to a pump when I'd rather be playing with DD.

buttonmoon78 Thu 22-Sep-11 22:36:53

Shhh. I'm refusing to verbalise this in rl but it seems Dr Browns bottles might be having a good impact re wind.

Watch this space!

buttonmoon78 Thu 22-Sep-11 22:38:10

Oh, and managing is in the eye of the beholder. I think therefore I am grin

And I have terribly low standards...

Eglu Fri 23-Sep-11 09:00:22

My boys have almost finished their first week at their new school. They seem to have settled in amazingly well. Especially DS1 who can be very shy and doesn't take to change well. That means that my parental guilt can ease a bit.

DD is doing great apart from the deciding to be hungry when we need to do the school run.

nicolamumof3 Fri 23-Sep-11 21:22:36

button fingers crossed the bottles continue to help x

SpannerPants Sat 24-Sep-11 12:16:04

We seem to have hit a growth spurt, DS has fed almost constantly for the last 3 days (I changed 10 nappies yesterday!) including at least every 3hrs at night, which wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to keep him upright afterwards for his reflux or if he would sleep between feeds. Im at the end of my tether, and DP has gone out to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a new fishtank while I sit here feeding, with babysick down my cleavage, crying. My period has started and I'm very spotty and hormonal!

Here's hoping it doesn't last for much longer!

Eglu Sat 24-Sep-11 13:40:12

Spanner that sounds awful. Hopefully the growth spurt will end soon. I haven't got periods yet, but I do keep getting stomach cramps and am feeling very hormonal. I wasn't expecting this yet as with the boys my periods didn't come back until they were 6 months

buttonmoon78 Sat 24-Sep-11 19:51:35

Oh, spanner poor you. I hear you with the baby sick down the cleavage. It's THE look this season dontcha know? wink

The bottles do seem to be helping with the wind and immediate vomiting though he still brings up lots of acid so is still pretty miserable.

nicolamumof3 Sat 24-Sep-11 21:59:04

hugs all not much more to add really atm. Feel a bit guilty to say that dd is still being a very good baby blush but i've been there and feel your pain.

Had a lovely walk out in the sun today suddenly realised how big dd is getting and sad that the newborn phase has n ow definitely passed

JimmyChoo17 Sun 25-Sep-11 11:07:06

Feel for you spanner!!

Period arrived 2 weeks ago and has only just started to slow down...considering I used to last 3 days and very light....I felt like I'd been butchered!!!!

Who on here has dealt with tongue tie? I recall seeing it mentioned but would have to trawl thru the old thread I guess.

Went to bf clinic about nursing strikes and was given anippleshield to trick him on....not needed it since bizarrely...well the mw said he has tongue tie which I had previously been told he hadn't (admittedly but the mw I didn't particularly rate) but not sure whether to do anything about it...he is 9 weeks and at last weigh in (2 weeks ago) was 12lb8 Nd putting on 6-8oz a week. I'm getting him weighed tomorrow and asking the hv her opinion but of it was an issue would we not knowbynow? If he is putting on weight is there any damage to the future by not getting him snipped? I don't want to put him thru it unnecessarily as i imagine it's painful. The bf clinic mw didn't labour the point but then again DS was screaming his head off tired in a room full of quiet feeding babies (shame!) so was trying to move us on!
Someone mentioned a possible lisp if was bad and left. Lucily my new dr is a great peadatrician so he will see him after my hv visit if needed. But wondering how u guys got on and at what ages and what affect it had on baby?

buttonmoon78 Sun 25-Sep-11 15:26:21

S was 4 ish weeks. The specialist we saw said up until about 4-6 months they barely feel it. He didn't seem unduly concerned - shouted when it happened, latched straight on again and that was that. There was no delayed fall out or anything! Apparently there are very few nerves or blood vessels in that bit. I think the age thing is more that it would be a bit traumatic once they realise what's going on. A bit like taking a newborn for injections is a damn sight easier than a 10 yo as the 10yo knows exactly what's happening when advanced upon with a needle!

If it is bad it can lead to issues with speech and eating but I think it would have to be quite pronounced for that.

Re the feeding - you might realise that it improves even if you don't see where it could improve currently (apart from the strikes!).

I'd speak to a specialist but to be perfectly honest, I'd get it done if I was in your shoes. You don't have anything to lose and you might have a fair amount to gain. I guess it's possible that the strikes could be related - maybe it's frustration?

isitreallythattime Tue 27-Sep-11 14:32:22

jimmy my dd had tt and after weeks of asking for help at 9 wks she was seen and they released it. i was same as you and worried. when they did it they told me to wait next door ready to feed and it was over in about 3 mins. she was a little upset after and there was small amount of blood but she was fine. glad i got it done as she is feeding slightly better now. shes also cooing alot more. it changes their face as they suddenley have more of a tongue to wiggle around. x

a11yJ Tue 27-Sep-11 21:02:51

Eglu - DD - 26th June
Ljil - DS - 30th June
isitreallythattime - DD - 12th July
broomformychin - DD - 14th July
SpannerPants - DS - 14th July
Buttonmoon78 - DS - 16th July
PWB- DS-16th July
JimmyChoo17 - DS - 22nd July
Scarthy1975 - DS - 23rd July
a11yj - DS - 29th July

hey can i join?

it seems there are lots of july boys!

my DS has reflux were now on colief not been trying it long but it seems to be working, it breaks down proteins in the milk! its expensive so drs r reluctant to prescribe but you could always buy it then tel them its working!?

JimmyChoo my DS had tt had it snipped at 4 weeks, it took literally 30 seconds and he barely cried and fed straight away after! its worth having done now as he may need speach and language if it affects his speach when hes older, DS is cooing loads now and hes 8 weeks!

DS had his injections and is extra sleep today, hopefully is better tomorow!

has anybody read gina ford contented baby? DS has been on it for 2 weeks now and he wakes up twice between 7pm and 7am! he also has decent naps in the day! which gives me so much more freedom!

started my period today even though im EBF think its because he goes long stretches between feeds in the night!

this is my first so everything seems so sureal!

buttonmoon78 Wed 28-Sep-11 07:10:27

Colief did nothing for us. True lactase deficiency is super rare so for every baby it helps it will do nothing for another 199. That's the other reason why drs won't prescribe it! Glad it's helping your's though.

I must admit, the thought of having decent sleep at night is tempting (envy) but I have a bit of a moral objection to 'she who must not be named' as I saw my SIL crumble on her routines and spiral into PND. If it works, great, but if it doesn't there's no help. And I've been working on the same principle of getting max milk in during the day but the little guts will happily be pumped full in the day and then still wake 3 times between 7-7 regardless. So I think he's just needing feeds more often rather than more of them! I had a friend though who had a perfect contented little baby for her first and a tasmanian devil for her second!

Had ds weighed yesterday - 13lb15oz so gain has levelled off considerably. I think this is prob because he's found his true level but could also be to do with the mammoth vomits he's been doing this week with his reflux.

prolificwillybreeder Wed 28-Sep-11 08:19:36

Hi all!
Jimmy- hope you are well, I'd do the same as others have mentioned about TT. I also seem to be having a very long period. It's horrible on top of tonsilitis sad
Button- how is everything button? Your app is soon isn't it? Sorry DS is doing some mammoth sicks.

Colief didn't work for us either.
She who shouldn't be named however, was great for us.
We are all still poorly here. DS2 has a terrible cough, it's caused by post nasal drip I think. The doctor saw him
Last week and said he was ok. I'll be going back to the doc...our second home! Next week if it's no better.

prolificwillybreeder Wed 28-Sep-11 08:21:24

Hope isthat, spanner and Nicola are all ok.
I'll come back later if I can DS1 is in a foul snotty mood sad

buttonmoon78 Wed 28-Sep-11 09:41:58

Oh poor you! Sounds rotten. Are you on anti-bs for the tonsillitis or is it viral? At least with bacterial you can do something about it other than wait it out. Your poor ds too - mine has a cough all the time but I think that's to do with the reflux tbh. Appt Friday - yay!

Your comment about SWMNBN says it all doesn't it - what works for one won't with another and vice versa. I think my opinion has been coloured by SIL's bad experience!

SpannerPants Wed 28-Sep-11 10:13:48

we've come out of the growth spurt or whatever it was. DS has suddenly become more efficient at feeding and seems to empty the boob in 10 mins instead of 45mins, although he still likes to cluster feed in the evenings. He's happy sitting in his bouncy chair for 20min at a time so DP and I can have dinner together again grin

I've just persuaded him to have a nap in his cot for the first time, I put him in awake and had to stand there for 45 mins (he screams if he feels like he's on his own) but hopefully it won't take so long next time. We're going to the baby clinic later to get him weighed which should be interesting, he's just about grown out of his 0-3 month clothes now.

Hope your throat feels better soon PWB - I used to find gargling with beechams powders great before I had my tonsils out, the aspirin has a local anaesthetic effect as well as reducing inflammation - doesn't taste very nice though.

Welcome A11yj, glad the colief is working for you, it is very expensive isn't it?!

Jimmy how are you getting on with the nursing strike now? hope things are getting better.

JimmyChoo17 Wed 28-Sep-11 14:40:17

Hi all!

The little rascal decided to feed normally since! Cant complain really. Have used the shield a couple of times when he is particularly fussy. it's lovely having him feeding more off me again. Stayed in with him more to avoid having to give him expressed in a bottle. Attempting first night out this weekend so he'll be back on the teat again tho.

Regarding TT.....I had to have an initial appointment with my new drs healthcare asst and the pead dr popped in and said he doest think is necessary to have it cut just yet....He thnksits moving back and said it's not pulling. So has asked me to hold on to when I see him again (12 weeks) it's not stopping him from gaining weight (he's a chunky monkey) and he can stick Tongue out. So am now seeing what he recommends in a couple ofweeks. Having seen loads he thinks is not a problem. I had convinced myself to get done but if that's what he recommends then at least Im prepared! Am annoyed at hv tho as she said she had noticed it but neglected to mention it!!???? And she was asking ME what I thought about his charts...erm no idea you are the professional love! I've been told he's been feeding great and weight was good up until now...he's averaging 6-8oz gain a week. Am glad the dr looked tho so will revaluate in a couple of weeks with him.

Well we bit the bullet and booked holiday for my 30th when he'll be 4 months. Am wondering how will be on flight etc anyone attempted holidays with a young baby and lived to tell the tale?

I have that Gina book...might read it as suddenly settling him for daytime naps is a struggle....

Ooops best post this, battery about to run out back soon!

Want2bSupermum Wed 28-Sep-11 17:53:31

Hello everyone.

Made to England and back again. Baby was fantastic on the plane and the security people at Newark airport were amazing. Manchester airport on the way back was a nightmare. The muppet at the security check wanted me to dip my dirty finger into her formula and taste it and open up her premade formula and sip from it. After arguing with him and then his supervisor for 30mins I was lucky that a lovely doctor who was clearly a parent came through behind me and told the security man that I was right and he should let me through without sampling the formula.

DD is huge and is in 6mth clothes due to her length. She must be 25" already and is starting to gaggle out noises in an attempt to have a conversation. She also gets the giggles which I love hearing. We are still struggling with blow outs. She is quite the pooper!

Two of my clients have told me they are not happy with the people covering for me so I am going to back to work in mid october and will be working in the office 3 days a week. It wasn't a difficult decision to make but I am annoyed so told HR that two clients are not happy with the cover. DH is off in Dallas this week so on my own. Very proud that I am holding down the fort on my own. I am also planning my sisters wedding and taking an exam next week. I think I need to get my thyroid checked.....

scarthy1975 Wed 28-Sep-11 19:46:49

Hi all,

I used the GF book with my 1st and have used again this time. TBH I only use it as a guide i.e. number of feeds and amount of sleep and works really well for me, DS only wakes once in the night for 15 mins to feed and then again at 7.00am. I think if you try to follow it rigidly and it doesn't work you could upset both you and the baby.

Has anyone noticed that their armpit and leg hair have stopped growing since giving birth? I only noticed the other day when I looked to see how bad they were and there was nothing there - great!! Is this a bf thing?

buttonmoon78 Wed 28-Sep-11 23:21:07

Just had a huge argument (and very long) with dh. Basically I'm not coping very well with everything that has to be done. Which is what I said. But because there is nothing that can change then according to him there's no point saying it angry He has sent a text apologising but I'm still really angry and upset.

So now I'm sat here, about to wake ds up for his feed knowing I won't see my bed until midnight at the earliest and then will be up twice between that and 6am and he gets to settle into a nice comfy empty hotel bed with no screaming child to wake him up.

I'm bloody exhausted.

Oh, and scarthy? I could knit stockings with my leg hairs. If only I could find the time...

Want2bSupermum Thu 29-Sep-11 13:19:23

Hey button, sorry to hear things aren't going great. I know where you are at.... I am starting to understand the importance of family and having them around to help you raise your family. I told DH that I can't do it all and I am not even going to try. I asked him what was important to him and I have my list. It has made it a lot easier to rope people into helping out. Thank goodness we have spare bedrooms as we have quite a few guests booked to visit over the next two years. We are saving up to move to the best school district so can't afford to pay for help.

Also I was surprised at how quickly resentment builds. DH is on the road so out from 5am-9pm. As this is America he is flying so some overnights are required. It hasn't been easy when being on my own. He is going to Dallas for 4 nights in October. I am so thankful that I will be working so will have DD in daycare during 2 of those days.

Scarthy I am very jealous... My body hair not yet read the memo that I am no longer pregnant! I have more facial hair than I did before I got pregnant and had a 'tash' appear at month 5 which is still growing. I have to shave my legs daily now. DH has agreed to me getting laser treatment after we finish having kids.

buttonmoon78 Thu 29-Sep-11 13:36:57

I've calmed down a bit now smile. However, all this still needs dealing with if I'm not going to have another meltdown next Wednesday. I know what you mean about the resentment... last w/e DH was moaning about staying away, eating alone, sleeping alone, poor me etc. He couldn't understand why I looked at him like this hmm I can't begin to verbalise to him how luxurious that would seem to me. I know it's horses for courses and all that but a little sensitivity wouldnj'tgo amiss!

I'm still having a pants day however. Following our accident the insurance co agreed to replace the van as it was so new. Excellent. So here we are, a month down the line and they've changed their mind because.... the van was leased and they were unaware of this. 'Really, are you sure?' says I. 'Why yes, Mrs BM, we are - we knew nothing' says they. So I've shown them the originl disclosure and they've got all squitty and even more arsey. So I told them they either stick with the original agreement or pay us more in the settlement. Or I go to the Ombudsman (and I know how much they have to pay to refer anything to them) and contact my solicitor. And now I'm standing back to watch the fireworks.

I could really do without it angry

On the upside, it's dd1's birthday today. Went out earlier to get her cake (ran out of time to make one blush) so at least I have cake to look forward to tonight!

cara2244 Thu 29-Sep-11 21:47:02

Hi, just marking my place, been away for ages as I started developing RSI from the late night mums netting, emailing and browsing on my phone! but the lovely OH has now bought me an iPad!!

Can anyone share my 'baby won't take a bottle and I have started working again' pain??! I am feeling such guilt about working, but I am trying to build up my freelance business so I don't have to go back to proper work.

Button moon, my friend with pnd has now been hospitalised. It has been such a difficult time for her and it turns out she was much worse than she was letting on and had been hiding her symptoms for months.

cara2244 Thu 29-Sep-11 21:49:30

Jimmychoo, I took my son on holiday to Portugal when he was 4 months and it was a dream, just lovely. If you're still breastfeeding, just feed like mad on the plane.

buttonmoon78 Thu 29-Sep-11 22:26:57

I'm sorry to hear that cara. I hope she gets the treatment she needs.

My HV wants to come round on Monday and do the Edinburgh score with me. I want to tell her to get stuffed but I know that's because I'm worried about what she'll discover (and yes I realise that's hypocritical having wished your friend well). But I don't think I really have pnd - I'm just totally overwhelmed with everything.

Basically life is just a bit pants atm. I need a nice big boost. Or a cleaner.

Want2bSupermum Fri 30-Sep-11 17:24:17

cara Anna hated the Avent bottles but loves Dr Browns. I have her on level 2 nipples now.

I can't imagine how awful it must be to have PND. I hope your friend has a speedy recovery.

Jimmy flying is fine. I did Newark to Manchester and back again. Just don't give into the security people when the tell you to sample the formula you have for your baby. Once you dip a finger in you shouldn't be using it. With the premade there is no way you should be sipping from the bottle. You can only bring on the plane what you 'need'. I brought two extra feedings which worked brilliantly as our bags too forever to come through at Manchester airport. If you can avoid Manchester or Heathrow airports then do. In my experience they are the worst airports in the world.

button Enjoy that cake!

cara2244 Fri 30-Sep-11 22:51:37

Button I feel overwhelmed at times and I only have 2 and a DP home every eve. I remember feeling overwhelmed with ds at times, but I think it's when it effects your ability to function normally that it's a concern. I do fly off the handle too easily at the moment and am starting to try and recognise when I feel wound up, and either chill for a few minutes or go for a walk.

a11yJ Sun 02-Oct-11 13:58:31

SpannerPants yes colief is around £12 but i got it on prescription which is good!

JimmyChoo17 i got sent to the peads consultant and he didn't do it the first time but i went back a week later and he did it, it took 30 seconds and no blood he cried for a few seconds then was fine! i think its worth having because you never know he may have problems with D, T and TH when he talks and it will be harder for him when he's older?

scarthy1975 yeah I'm using GF as a guide as how often he should feed etc dont get me wrong he's no angel baby i wouldn't say he's 'contented' but he's a lot happier now with routine and I'm happier so surely that can only be beneficial!

buttonmoon78 sorry to hear you had a hard night! Want2bSupermum defiantly see the importance of family, i couldn't do it without my other half helping! he doesn't often get up in the night but if its taking longer to re-settle him he will get up and do it!

cara sorry to hear about your friend, having a baby is difficult anyway but to have pnd i defiantly feel for her!!

has anyone had any experience with swimming? DS is 9 weeks and had his first set of imms, has anyone taken baby swimming this young?

buttonmoon78 Mon 03-Oct-11 20:32:43

want2b I've just moved S onto level 2 tonight. I was terrified it would end up in a huge up-chuck but so far so good!

I'm feeling a lot more positive at the moment. Had a good weekend which helps! After our large bust up last week, dh really thought about what I said and is trying his best (when he's at home) to be more helpful which is very nice indeed. And we've agreed that the girls are to start earning some pocket money. They already do some non-negotiable jobs like unloading the dishwasher, walking the dog and making packed lunches, but I'm going to extend their repertoire to cleaning the bathrooms, vacuuming and ironing - stuff like that. We've agreed that they will get £15 per month each at the beginning of the month following and that if it works it will go up to £20pm in the new year - carrot. If they don't keep their end of the bargain, money gets deducted - stick. I'm hoping it will take some of the pressure off me, give them some independence and generally make the house a nicer place to be!

We've also decided to get dd1 a joint current account with one of us so she can learn how to use a debit card etc. She's 14 which is scarily close to being independent so it's about time she learnt how to budget etc.

I'm now going to open a bottle of white, trough through the packet of parma ham I bought as a treat and do a bit of essential mning before I have to feed ds again!

cara2244 Mon 03-Oct-11 21:07:48

Button, I like your ideas for chores, I'm filing that one away until my kids are older. Hope it works for you.

Well DD took an ounce of expressed milk today, phew, had to throw away the other 3 though! Hopefully she will continue to just have a small amount to tide her over until I get back. Anyone thinking of expressing, get an electric pump. I used to sit for ages and ages with a hand pump with DS - it's definitely worth the extra money for the ease of the eletric one.
Allyj lots of people swear by water babies classes for baby swimming.

Want2bSupermum Tue 04-Oct-11 01:54:52

button I had the same fear about Level 2 but it has gone better than expected. Love the budgeting idea.

Anna is also starting to grow again. She is rolling over from her tummy to her back. When is the next growth spurt?

For swimming what do you do about their pooping and pee? I have seen little swimmers but they are only for larger babies. The huggies small size is for 16lbs+ and pampers smallest size is a 3 which is for 20lbs+ here in the US. DD is only just 11lbs (when full of poop).

scarthy1975 Tue 04-Oct-11 09:42:41

cara I definitely agree about the electric breast pump. I used a manual with DS1 and it used to take me ages just to get 1oz. I invested in a Medela Swing this time and I get 2oz in 5 minutes - sounds like i'm a cow but well worth it.

I never took DS1 swimming when he was a baby as I think if you fill up the bath enough it gets the same results. You spend more time getting them dressed and undressed then actually in the water and you get really cold as they don't really move much.

buttonmoon78 Tue 04-Oct-11 09:50:29

I used to take dd1 swimming in a place which also did rehabilitation for disabled people so the water was blood warm and the changing rooms lovely and toasty. Otherwise I wouldn't bother either!

want2b I think we get more choice over here. Would it be worth getting a pair of the washable sort? I know Mothercare do them - do they ship out the the US?

isitreallythattime Tue 04-Oct-11 16:08:05

Afternoon ladies..

So, I have put my breastpump to bed last night and feel good for it. Have been mix feeding but decided i am going to wind down with it now and move to ff. Feels quite nice to finally have made the decision.

Going to leave morning feed to be last to drop as she likes that.

So question today, is how do you all make up your morning feeds. At the moment i feed dd from me while kettle boils and cools, but i imagine, with a screaming hungry baby first thing this is not going to be possible once i finish bf.

Suggestions welcome smile x x

Want2bSupermum Tue 04-Oct-11 17:27:17

button thanks for the idea of washables for swimming. I called the pool and they only allow the disposables. Will just get the bigger ones for 16lb+ babies and wrap them real tight!

isit Our peadiatrician said it was fine to use bottle or tap water to make formula. We use bottled water which is kept at room temperature. Also, with formula your little one should be able to sleep longer. I feed every 4hrs starting at 6am. The last feed is at 10pm. I get her bottle ready at 5.50am and wake her up for her first feed.

buttonmoon78 Wed 05-Oct-11 10:35:40

I sterilise all bottles and fill them half way with boiled water. Then I fill a flask with freshly boiled water and use that to make up the half of the water as and when needed. It stays really hot for about 10/12 hours so makes nice warm bottles which dissolve the gaviscon nicely. I know it's not the current recommended way, but I think I'd lose my marbles if I had to do that!

isit a brave decision to make, but I agree - once it's been made it really takes a weight off doesn't it!

want2b it's odd they won't let you use them. What do they think you'll do? Not wash them?! Wrapping extra tight seems to be your only option then. At least you can - over here the swim nappies are like pull ups so if they're too big, a little nudge and they fall down!

buttonmoon78 Wed 05-Oct-11 12:11:47

Just heard that my grandma has got cancer. Started in her stomach. Now riddled with it. Sounds like she won't make it to the end of the month let alone Christmas sad

I'm just so grateful my grandad's so far gone with dementia that he'll never know. It would've killed him too otherwise.

Makes me a bit cross as she's been having tests for weight loss, constant trots, stomach pain etc for 18+months with no indication but suddenly she's got cancer and it's everywhere. I know it would've happened anyway and at 85 something's going to get you sometime but still.

Want2bSupermum Wed 05-Oct-11 14:43:43

button I have learnt not to question the logic behind the decisions that Americans make. Some of the rules are there just as a power trip. With regards to washables, a lot of places don't like them because parents will rinse them out in the handwashing sinks so the sinks are left with poop in them. Putting signs up doesn't work here so management just ban the item causing the problem. I bought the smalls and we tried them on her last night. They are HUGE and DH was telling me to wrap duct tape around to keep them up!

Sorry to hear about your grandma having stomach cancer. My grandma passed away 10 years ago and I still really miss her. I would have loved for her to have met DH and our creation.

SpannerPants Wed 05-Oct-11 16:05:17

Sorry to hear about your grandma Button - stomach cancer is horrible and unfortunately the early symptoms can be quite vague, so by the time it's diagnosed it's usually spread sad I hope her remaining time is as painfree as possible and that you get to spend time together.

Want2b just imagining you and your DH duct-taping your DD into a swim nappy made me LOL!

I want to take DS swimming but our local place for it won't let you take car seats or buggies into the place - I don't see how I can get the baby changed without something to put him in, he'll roll all over the place! It sounds a bit stressful to me. We've been playing a lot more in the bath, running the water deeper and encouraging him to kick and play with the bubbles.

DP is going away with work tomorrow for 48hrs so we're going to stay with my mum so I can have a bit of a break - I can't wait! I haven't had more than 2hrs sleep in one go for almost 2 weeks now so I'm really tired.

buttonmoon78 Wed 05-Oct-11 16:51:23

Oh want2b I properly welled up at that - 'our creation'. To be fair, I can well up watching the Simpsons at the mo but even so.

Thanks both. She doesn't even know yet. My mum and my aunt are telling her today. Nobody else knows - I only know because my mum had to stay with me and she didn't think the cloak and dagger stuff was fair if she was here. They didn't want to tell nayone else until she knew but didn't want to tell her until they had some firmer news from the consultant.

It seems everyone's got cancer just now. DH's aunt is on borrowed time - it's now in her brain too. Another family friend has it and it's terminal. My cousin's cousin (as in linked to me by marriage only) is dying of cancer - he's only 22, can't swallow or anything now - must be days left. And now my grandma. It's far easier to rationalise it with older folks though. I can't imagine what it would be like to lose your son at that age when they should be so full of life sad

Oh dear. Time to buck up or I'll be no use to anyone!

cara2244 Thu 06-Oct-11 23:10:37

Button, sorry to hear your news.

Bloody OH!! Grrrrrrrrr. So I do nothing all day?!? thanks so much for your complete lack of support.

Want2bSupermum Fri 07-Oct-11 15:12:27

button Just enjoy the time you have left with your grandma and get any of her fab receipes. We all miss my grandma's mince pies, her apple crumble and her technique of yelling at the eggs before making a souffle!

We tried the swimmers in the bathtub. Was a disaster with the diaper and bits of dodo floating around. DH was laughing so hard at me as I had her in this ring around her neck. He tried run to take a picture but I had her out of the water quickly as she has started to grab things....

buttonmoon78 Fri 07-Oct-11 17:57:24

Thanks guys. Grandma's not really a cook (iykwim?) but her Millionaire's Shortbread truly is something to behold. And Mars Bar Cheesecake. Are you guessing she has a sweet tooth?!

Had to speak to paed today as S has been in dreadful pain since Weds night. From 3am today he would only sleep held tight against me sitting bolt upright. So he's been taken off the ranitidine and put onto Omeprazole instead. Apparently it's a souped up version of ranitidine but it's not licensed for babies so doesn't come in a baby-friendly format. I have to open the capsule and dissolve the powder in liquid. Apparently water or juice or yoghurt. She said that S probably wouldn't take it in water and to try juice but I'm not sure about giving him juice just yet confused

Had a bit of a wake up call today. Put on a size 16 coat in Next and it was rather snug blush I'm not really that much bigger than before it's just in different places. So I went into Tesco (next door) and bought a whole load of nice veggies. Think I'll be making veggie soup tomorrow morning to try and fill me up with good things rather than convenient and dreadfully fattening things. My friend who has a 6mo has given me some jeans which she's just grown too small for which are a tiny bit too small for me so that's an incentive. I can do them up it's just they're not really that comfy yet and I have a terrible muffin top in them

Ho hum. DH back later. Hopefully he'll be useful but I'm thinking it'll be much more like your scenario cara though he'll be able to say 'what have you been doing all week?'!

nicolamumof3 Sat 08-Oct-11 02:01:16

Hello all sorry I keep losing thread. Button so sorry about your grandma sending you hugs. I miss my nanna still so thinking of you. All ok here dd is very good still I am very blessed after having non sleeper ds3 she slept thru 3 nights but as you can guess by time of my post hasn't managed it tonight!

nicolamumof3 Sat 08-Oct-11 02:03:23

Oh and as for ff dd has been ff from birth now on 7 oz every 4hrs sleeps 7-8 with one wake up in night. I'm lucky that she's very relaxed so always have time to make bottles as I go use ice to cool down if I'm in a hurry at night tho

Want2bSupermum Wed 12-Oct-11 16:17:49

Thought I would post on here that DD had her first day at daycare yesterday. Was very happy with the place. They asked me to call in this morning to go over the activites that she does. They said she is developmentaly at about 5 months and they would like to do more language and motor skills work with her as they said she is very close to sitting unaided for more than 3mins at a time.

buttonmoon78 Wed 12-Oct-11 17:23:56

I;m glad it went well want2b.

Our reflux journey continues... spoke to our paed again. We've been referred to someone even more specialist than her. Got prescription for nutramigen and going back to ranitidine.

Want2bSupermum Wed 12-Oct-11 21:42:00

thanks button.

I bumped into my friend this afternoon who has a very refluxy baby. She was running to the 'family' pharmacy. She told me that they make up the mix for her baby to ensure even dosage. I remembered you were having issues with the drugs not being in a baby friendly format and she said her dr told her that it is very important that it is mixed properly in a solution easy for a baby with reflux to digest. The stuff her boy is on is mixed in something oil based as the drug won't mix as well in water. You should see if a pharmacy near you can mix it for you.

Also, she said that she had tried different formulas after changing her diet a zillion times while breastfeeding. They ended up on alumentum formula which I think is the one which is on script in the UK. She had me in stiches as she was telling me about going to the 2nd hand store and asking for stained clothes. She told the owner that it would make her feel so much better to think that another mother has gone through the same reflux issues as her! Only in New York!!!

SpannerPants Sat 15-Oct-11 18:15:14

we're off to London on Tuesday as we're taking part in the EAT study, I'm not looking forward to coordinating a 3 month old plus buggy etc on the train but luckily my sister lives in London and is meeting us at the station to give me a hand.

DS has been incredibly grouchy for the last few days, MIL keeps telling me DP had his first teeth at 12 weeks so I wonder if he's teething. He's certainly very dribbly, I've had to invest in some plastic-backed bibs as all his clothes get soaked through minutes after getting him dressed!

Eglu Sun 16-Oct-11 21:17:14

Hey all, I kepp losing this thread so haven't posted for ages.

I'm a bit tires to read and catch up atm though so will read and write more tomorrow.

buttonmoon78 Mon 17-Oct-11 10:10:41

Morning all.

spanner I took ds on the train on my own the other week. It was pretty hideous. Look no one in the eye - they won't help you so the fact that they are staring at you struggling will just get you more flustered! Mind you, we made it intact so it can't have been that bad smile

I am getting really down with this reflux. On Thursday we began the numtramigen. I mixed it with the aptamil and reduced the A and increased the N by one scoop every other bottle so by Friday night we were totally on the N. On the upside, the little bits of eczema he had have disappeared. On the downside, he is even more sick than before. It's pure watery acid that's coming back. It doesn't seem to bother him much during the day but having been a bit more settled during the evening we're back to screaming til he falls asleep exhausted and sobbing.

Also, his nappies are much less wet than they were before. We're using cloth so it's quite easy to tell - whereas after 3-4 hours the whole thing would be wet, now the top, sides and back are bone dry, even after 4-5 hours.

I'm going to ring the paed again this morning because I'm quite worried, esp about the nappies. I feel like a neurotic mum with a pfb though grin

I feel like everything I do just makes him worse though. Everything we try seems to have more down than upsides sad

nicolamumof3 Mon 17-Oct-11 10:47:14

oh button, it must be so frustrating feeling as you are getting no where with him. Hope the paeds can help xxx

keep losing this thread too. All good here, Dd sleeps thru some nights, some not but she's such a good baby so can't complain. Also think she is teething and full of cold atm bless her.

JimmyChoo17 Mon 17-Oct-11 20:32:02

12week jabs done! He's been much better than last time.

Keep losing thread but hope all are doing well.

After having a brilliant breastfeeding baby who wakes only once at night and naps well to one who won't breastfed other than during the night (so am now a human cow...there is nothing fun about milking ones self) with a baby who won't settle on own or nap for more than 20mins and wakes several times during the night.....hmmmpffff....[insert sleep deprived emoticon here]

Still...he's so gorgeous I'll forgive him anything smile

Eglu Mon 17-Oct-11 22:04:31

Button sorry to hear about your Grandma, you have enough on your plate without that too. sad

Want2be I'm glad daycare is going well for you and that your trip to England went well.

I saw my Dad at the weekend. He is making more of an effort, hopefully he will keep it up and we can rebuild out relationship. I've always been a Daddys girl, even though he never deserved it, and I've really missed him. He has split up with his partner of 12 years, which is good from my point of view as I never liked her. grin

DD is doing well, very happy and smiley now. I am thinking of taking her to baby swimming lessons next week as a few Mums that I have met take theirs along. She is still not sleeping through, boo! We have the occasional good night where she is only up once, but it is mostly 2 or 3 times. I know at 16 weeks she is still young, but my DSes slept through from 8 weeks, so it's a struggle.

She also still won't take a bottle so have deicded to give up on that front for now. It's really not that important to me.

nicolamumof3 Mon 17-Oct-11 22:27:57

eglu good to hear about your dad. Isla is unpredictable at night sometimes sleeps through, sometimes doesn't you never can tell! But like your dd she is so happy and smiley so easy so we don't mind smile

SpannerPants Wed 19-Oct-11 16:02:27

Well our trip to London was hard work - noone would help me with the buggy so I had to dismantle it and carry it in one hand and DS in the other over the footbridge from the carpark to the station. The journey there was ok (even managed to feed on the train grin) and the hospital bit was fine, even the blood tests weren't as bad as I thought they'd be. He's been randomised to the control group so will be exclusively breastfed for 6 months.

The return journey was hideous, got to the station with 5min to spare but got stuck behind someone who had lost their ticket at the ticket barrier and then wasn't allowed to walk along the platform to the carriage our seats were booked in (I'd got 1st class so we had more space). I couldn't fit the buggy and DS up the aisle of the train and noone would help me so we ended up standing outside the toilet for the whole journey (80 mins). I was so angry I kept crying blush. DS was good as gold and spent the whole journey cooing and smiling at me, just as well he didn't need feeding on the train! I'm thinking about writing a letter of complaint to the train company because not one of the 4 train staff would help me sad

buttonmoon78 Wed 19-Oct-11 17:46:22

Oh spanner - your journey was way worse than mine sad Write the letter while you're still angry grin

I'm rapidly approaching the end of my tether with this reflux. He's still being very very sick - but just the watery acid, even if it's minutes since his bottle which I really don't understand at all. But it probably accounts for the fact that he's not losing weight as it's only water. And his pain seems to be increasing too - lots more arching and fussing and the screaming! It's beyond acceptable now. Most days we both end up in tears - him because he's in pain and me because I can't do anything about it.

I rang the paed to say about his dry nappies and the pain etc. She sent a message back through her secretary that there was nothing else she could do - we had to wait until we saw the other dr. So the next day I rang the other dr's secretary the next day only to discover that she had not even had the referral yet. When she realised how upset I was she offered to get it faxed to her so she could expedite the appointment but I still don't know what that means. I think I'm going to ring again tomorrow to see if there's any news. Each day feels like a lifetime and I feel like I'm losing the plot here.

Everyone's got some advice to give, both professionals and others alike and I know they're well meaning but I just want to shout 'don't you think I'm trying everything already?!' I mean, we're a little beyond the stage of feeding him sitting up and propping up the cot etc. hmm And then I feel mean because they're only trying to help.

Rant over. I guess I just needed a little vent.

buttonmoon78 Wed 19-Oct-11 17:55:51

And wine. On a school night before I teach blush

nicolamumof3 Wed 19-Oct-11 21:16:09

oh button i really don't know what to say, im so frustrated on yours and ds's behalf that you're not getting the help you need.

My first was a poorly baby and I had 7weeks of screaming day and night before he was diagnosed with urinary reflux, once diagnosed treatment was quick but it was hell on earth those early weeks. So I feel for you must be a struggle im sorry sad

Sppanner I cannot believe that, well yes i can actually this country is so damn crap with helping parents, well with helping anyone really. Grrr on your behalf yes do complain thats awful xx

DD is 3months old tomorrow where has that time gone?

buttonmoon78 Thu 20-Oct-11 13:51:26

Oh, it gets better sad

My grandad died last night. He died in his sleep so the best way to go. He was 91 - a grand age - and had dementia so the last few years it's not been 'him' anyway, and when he was lucid (rarely) he's been distressed so it's a release for him and TBH for my grandma. Logically it's what we've all been waiting for.

But he was my grandad dammit. He used to save all his coppers to take us the the amusement arcade. He used to let me caddy for him. He took me to the beach with a brand new pair of shoes and brought me home with only one. He used to make animals in our palms out of shaving foam. He never lost his love of football. Or whisky. Or Last of the Summer Wine. And he was a hero - a Polar Bear in the war, but never ever spoke about it.

Life's a bit pants right now, to be perfectly honest sad

nicolamumof3 Thu 20-Oct-11 13:59:57

im so sorry button xx

buttonmoon78 Thu 20-Oct-11 16:17:59

Thanks Nic. I think I thought I'd written him off as gone a long time ago because of the dementia. I'm still a bit shocked at how upset I am.

That sounds really heartless. It isn't - I just mean that I thought I'd done my grieving already. Turns out not.

nicolamumof3 Thu 20-Oct-11 19:29:57

I know exactly how you feel my nanna died 13years ago well think it will be 14 years actually next week. I still miss her sad

SpannerPants Thu 20-Oct-11 19:53:43

I'm sorry for your loss Button x

Eglu Fri 21-Oct-11 21:45:35

Sorry for your loss Button. Having DD made me think about my Grandparents who have missed her arrival.

JimmyChoo17 Sat 22-Oct-11 18:03:07

Oh button, I'm so sorry to hear your news xx

buttonmoon78 Tue 25-Oct-11 09:53:38

Sorry - it's a bit me me me at the moment.

DH's aunt died on Sunday night. The cancer was mercifully swift at doing it's job and she was spared the weeks of agony that many others go through. I just can't stop thinking about her girls, 17, 15 & 7.

I hope all are well.

SpannerPants Tue 25-Oct-11 16:21:20

sad I'm sorry to hear that, although as you say at least it was quick. How is your DS getting on with his reflux btw?

We're ok here, had his 2nd lot of jabs today (couple of weeks late, oops) so I'm hoping he won't be as unsettled as last time. He's not cried as much which is a start!

buttonmoon78 Tue 25-Oct-11 22:32:07

It's all up and down really (no pun intended). We're still getting lots of dry nappies but no one but me seems really concerned which I suppose I should be happy about.

I spoke to the hospital again this morning to ask where we were at with his referral but the consultant's secretary said although she now had the ref, the clinic co-ord was on leave this week. I almost cried so she said if I got the gp to say it was necessary then they could expedite it. I spoke to the gp's receptionist but it's only just dawned on me that she didn;t ring back as she said she would.

Its def been a My Hyde day rather than Dr Jekyll, which is just what I didn't need but hey ho - babies are always unpredictable, no?

S is having his 2nd lot of jabs on 8th November when he'll be 16 wks hmm

Want2bSupermum Wed 26-Oct-11 21:07:48

button hope things start to improve for you. Between the deaths and dry nappies I admire you for carrying on and chasing up the dr's. I weigh DD's wet nappies and the peadiatrican calculates from that what the output is. I don't know what they do if too much/little but given that they monitor it so closely I would think they would do something.

Spanner your trip out sounds similar to the nightmare I had in Manchester. I don't understand why it is considered safer for my baby to travel in a bus outside of her car seat.

Those who have babies should be given priority seating and there should be an employee of the train company on the train to ensure people are properly seated. My dad is a train safety expert and he designs the energy absorbtion systems and has said that babies must be in their buggy to have a chance of surving in an accident. He told me not to take her out her car seat and to have her in a rear facing seat. He said that there should be at least one employee from the train operator on board and that I must speak to them if no one gives up a seat. Also said mothers who are breastfeeding should get the seat next to the rear facing seat that infant is in as best place for an unsecured baby in an accident. He has been lobbying the UK government for 20+ years to have regulation brought in to ensure young children are safe.

buttonmoon78 Wed 26-Oct-11 22:22:02

Not had a chance to follow up with the gp - it's been mega busy here today. G'dad's funeral is on Monday, dh's aunt's is on Tuesday so next week should be a barrel of laughs. And my grandma seems to be slipping away quicker than any of us expected so I think there'll be another funeral in November some time.

Thank you all for your good wishes. Thank you for being understanding that I simply don't have the energy for following up everyone else at the mo. smile

WinterLover Thu 27-Oct-11 12:41:45

Hello there, was wondering if I can join you, DS was meant to be an August baby but he came 4 weeks early making him a July baby!! He's 14 weeks now...I took him to a baby group on Tuesday and noticed how 'behind' he is on milestones. He will apparently catch up over time but its still not nice to see.

buttonmoon78 Thu 27-Oct-11 16:38:38

Hi there Winter - nice to have another recruit. It's not always this gloomy, I promise!

Don't forget - there's a huge band of 'normal' anyway, and sometimes the milestones are reported wrong. If I listened to what the bounty book said, I'd be thinking that my ds was a genius! Which of course he is. But then, all 3 of my others didn't walk til 18m so it's all swings and roundabouts really.

Feeling a bit better today. I think it's the feeling of being in limbo at the min. I guess by Sunday evening I'll be all wound up again, but hopefully once the funerals are done with I'll be able to move on a bit. I'm really not looking forward to the one on Tuesday. The fact she was so young and had young girls means it seems far worse than grandad's death, who was, let's face it, old and ready to die.

Oh, stop me now or I'll get all maudlin again.

Eglu Thu 27-Oct-11 21:50:02

Hi Winter and welcome, I really wouldn't believe the baby books either. Most books say they will crawl at 7 mths, mine didn't crawl until 11 mths and they were by no means the oldest babies to crawl.

Just wanted to point out that there is now a July 2012 antenatal thread. How cool is that. Can anybody even rememberthat far back for us and how we felt then? Seems a lifetime ago.

Want2bSupermum Fri 28-Oct-11 22:38:38

Hello winter! My friend had her baby at 32wks. Her boy is still a little behind the curve but ahead if you add 8 weeks. She has been very proactive about getting help for him and he still goes to a medical professional who gives her exercises to do with him (when I say medical prof. it is because I don't know what they are called!).

Eglu I can't believe it has been almost 3 months already. I did a second round of portrait pictures today at Target. Can't believe my DD is 3 months old. She did another first today which was to roll from her back onto her tummy. She did it twice!

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buttonmoon78 Mon 31-Oct-11 16:31:22

I've said I'll do it - I could do with a pick me up! Grandma slipped away an hour before Grandad's funeral today so once dh's aunt's is out the way tommorrow I'll have another next week.

I know my dad's in his 60s but he was orphaned today. And he looked like a little lost boy sad

Eglu Mon 31-Oct-11 21:33:09

I'll do it too.

Button so sorry for all of your losses. It must be particularly difficult for your Dad. It is very hard when both parents go. I remember my Dad finding it tough, and it wasn't so close together for him. My thoughts are with you and your family. sad

buttonmoon78 Wed 02-Nov-11 11:06:16

It's been a tough few days but I had some news today which made me smile - my eldest sister is expecting dc2 in June - two days before mine and my dad's birthday so I've told her to hang on and make it a 3rd generation thing!

Yesterday's funeral was hard - it was very stressful. DH and I felt like we'd run a marathon by the end of the day. The DH and girls were so strong though - I really thought they did her proud.

Reflux wise, things are not stunning but I've spoke n to the paed's secretary again today and she said we'd be seen within 3 weeks. Which feels like an age...

Thanks all for being so nice the last couple of weeks. I think I was mega stressed about yesterday's service and now that's out of the way I feel a lot more positive. I've got to get through Grandma's before we're totally out of the woods which is next Weds but I do feel like a weight has been lifted this morning.

WinterLover Thu 03-Nov-11 07:27:42

oh Button im really sorry sad What a horrible few weeks for you.

JimmyChoo17 Fri 04-Nov-11 10:59:25

Hey button how u Holding up?
I've not been on here in a while I find it hard to keep up with as doesn't display Easily on phone like f book!

Cerazette users....I've been having periods on it every cycle like clockwork but they have suddenly stopped but read udont have them anyway on this pill? Anyone had this too? Or should I be peeing on a stick right now (looks worried!) I'm a reliable pill taker tho to be honest.

wantobe how long from learning to roll onto belly was it until baby learnt to roll back? DS is brilliant at getting on front then getting the hump and not getting back. He's 15 weeks today.

Breastfeeding not gone as well as thought would be he is taking on more formula than breast milk now as can't keep supply up with his needs. I would have to be expressing all day which would do me in. I cansee why people give up but im trying not to beat myself up about it and think well he still gets some breast milk. Im so annoyed with myself tho sad especially after such a great start. Most days he he gets half and half and breastfeeds at night it's the only time he'll do now. (his nursing strikes returned! )

Excuse spelling and odd typos one finger typing on an unresponsive iPad does not help!

Loving mummyhood tho....and dare I say it I have been broody this week! X

JimmyChoo17 Fri 04-Nov-11 11:02:12

I've just spotted your other post button what a rough time u have had I am so so sorry for your family's losses. X

buttonmoon78 Fri 04-Nov-11 19:11:14

Thank you jimmy and winter - it has been a lot bit rough but I'm hoping we're coming to the end of it now.

Had a lovely day today - ds was ace, smiley and happy all day. New footmuff for my loola arrived so ds will be ok if we decide to winter in the arctic this year hmm. All lovely. Even caught myself thinking maybe the reflux was fading away (mainly because we now have an appt with the paed and that's generally how my life works!) but no! Normal service resumed tonight - an hour's solid screaming, thrashing, clawing, fighting, arching, blah blah...

He's fallen asleep finally and even with the sensitivity turned down low I can still hear him sobbing in his sleep through the monitor. Still, tomorrow's another day, no?!

Jimmy don't use cerazette sorry. I can't believe you're broody! Hormones are funny things grin Please don't beat yourself up about bf. As you know from reading previous posts of mine, I don't practise what I preach but it really is the most pointless emotion ever. If it doesn't work it doesn't work - and when you know you've put your all into it then guilt shouldn't factor.

WinterLover Sat 05-Nov-11 05:24:28

Hi everyone...

Question about sleep and naps. Has anyone got a routine going? Also how many naps are your LO's having during the day?

DS has started waking at 3.30 and ready for the day, he doesnt want feeding till about 6 though sad Im knackered!!! He falls asleep about 7ish without fail, there is no chance of me keeping him up later

Want2bSupermum Mon 07-Nov-11 02:18:16

Hi Jimmy It was a good 4 weeks or so between rolling over front to back and doing back to front. She is now trying to sit up. I blame daycare! Don't worry about the feeding thing. I was very disappointed that I couldn't breastfeed but c'est la vie. There are some positives to formula the best being that it helps babies sleep through the night! You are not the only broody one. Wouldn't have believed it but I found myself pushing for #2 in December next year. It all depends on if I get promoted at work. Must pass those darn exams....

Winterlover DD likes to catnap and does two or three short naps of 45mins or so. I normally put her down at 7pm after doing her bedtime routine but she has started to wake at 5am. I kept her up until 8.30pm this evening and will see how it goes tomorrow morning.

Other good news is that my Dad arrives tomorrow. He will be staying for 3 weeks which is great as I have another exam on the 15th. Difficult to study when your LO needs cuddles and DH is away with work.

Button I can't believe you have to wait up to 3 weeks for an appointment. It is a good thing I don't live in the UK. I would call the dr everytime the child cried until I got an appointment (yes I would get their home number and call them at 2am in the morning).

buttonmoon78 Mon 07-Nov-11 07:22:15

I had a real moment of epiphany this weekend - actually it was dh's more than mine! After weeks of ds being lovely whilst he was around and only vile for me he had two really bad acid attacks this weekend. DH tried to comfort him and received a rake across the chest for his troubles and then said in total amazement - 'is this what you've been going on about?!'

Erm, yes dh it certainly is... hmm

Appointment through for the 17th so not as long as all that. Am now keeping an even more anal diary about his behaviour etc.

Want2bSupermum Tue 08-Nov-11 18:42:42

Button I have had the same thing this week regarding the snot production by DD. I knew she would get colds going into daycare but I wasn't expecting the volumes of green coming out of her nose. I made DH suck it out this morning so he could see what I was talking about when I asked him to go get his flu shot. Dr recommended it and he didn't want to get something that he saw was unnecessary! Grrrrr.

He has gone this lunchtime and didn't have to pay a dime as I got him a coupon. Will have to make him a Berocca coctail when I get home tonight.

SpannerPants Wed 09-Nov-11 11:14:21

DS has gone from waking for a feed once or twice a night to waking at least every 3hrs - we've gone back to cosleeping which means I am getting some sleep but I'm missing DP sad I take DS into the spare room as we have a memory foam top on the mattress in our bedroom and I worry about it being too soft/too hot.

We had to go for a developmental review this week and the HV advised me to do lots of tummy time as he had a bit of head lag when being pulled up into a sitting position so I put him on his playgym when we got home and he immediately rolled right over! He had been rolling from back to front but was getting his arm stuck underneath him. He's quite happy on his tummy and can support his head well in that position so hopefully the head lag will disappear soon smile

WinterLover Wed 09-Nov-11 12:59:48

Spanner how old is your DS. My DS has got head lag too but nobody seems that bothered. He's 15 weeks (11 weeks corrected age)

Want2bSupermum Wed 09-Nov-11 19:37:19

Spanner the Dr here advised me to do gentle sit ups with DD at the 3mth check up to help build up head/neck control. Put baby in 'sitting' position (as best as you can) and get them to grip your fingers. Start moving your fingers back two inches and then slowly to three. Baby will lean back slowly and gain better control of their head. Build it up until baby is leaning back 45 degrees with head still in line with neck.

buttonmoon78 Thu 10-Nov-11 07:53:41

Think poor ds will have to live with head lag (if he has it) as anything like that just makes him puke more! We borrowed my sisters Bumbo yesterday as I'm trying to extend our upright positions repertoire. He sat in it really well for 10 mins last night. Think I'm going to limit to 10m at the moment as it makes him tired.

We've def regressed reflux wise. Every evening is a total battle now. I'm going to ring the hospital later to see if they've got a cancellation for today's clinic. I'm losing the plot and althought I don't feel like I'm in any danger of hurting ds I do feel like I'm beginning to get a bit angry with the situation. I can still rationalise it and separate his crying and pain from him but it's getting me down. Even knowing that his appointment is only this time next week is too far away.

Thankfully all done with the funerals. I was really positive about yesterday until just before the service my dad handed me a sapphire pendant that Grandma had put aside for me. We had a big break in last year and I lost the pendant that dh had had made for our wedding day using a sapphire that my dad brought back from Sri Lanka when I was tiny sad. This pendant was the one my dad had brought back from the same trip for Grandma and she wanted me to have it to try to replace the original. It was the only personal bequest apart from her rings for my aunt so you can imagine how unemotional and together I was then!

Phew - must dash. School run calls...

isitreallythattime Fri 11-Nov-11 09:47:15

hi all, great to hear all your news and progress. My lo is still not rolling, she doesnt seem to like being on her front, will try and keep giving her couple of mins a day.

Questions - has anyone experience major hair loss? I heard that you loose hair after stopping bf which i did completrely a couple of weeks ago, but everytime i wash, brush or tie my hair up its falling out. Last night when i was washing it huge clumps were coming out. WOrried that im loosing my hair..... [hmmm]

WinterLover Fri 11-Nov-11 12:04:48

Its normal too lose a lot of hair, I questioned by hairdresser about it

buttonmoon78 Fri 11-Nov-11 13:44:32

I think I'm going to have to pop to see the gp soon. Am really struggling with everything. To add to his repertoire, ds has now begun projectile vomiting after a bottle as well as then bringing the rest back later. So that's really helping with the washing etc.

I spend each day wishing the clock would stop because I know that soon it will be 4pm and he'll begin screaming again. Today I have cried lots which is not really like me.

I think I just need a bit of space. An hour or so when I know he's not my problem. I feel like we're joined at the hip and I've always enjoyed that before but he's so screechy and sicky it's so damn draining.

And there I go. Crying again.

SpannerPants Fri 11-Nov-11 19:02:12

Going to see the GP about yourself sounds like a really good idea Button - Im not surprised you're at the end of your tether! You might find this a bit strange, but if you live anywhere near me (Leicester) I could come and give you a bit of a break? (I have a clean CRB check!)

WinterLover Fri 11-Nov-11 19:05:56

Button that sounds a good idea. Ive got PND and the best thing I did was go to the GP. It may be worth speaking to Homestart if they are in your area, they offer a range of help, including having someone come to you and give you a break for an hour. My HV really rates them, [http://www.home-start.org.uk/homepage Homestart]]

WinterLover Fri 11-Nov-11 19:06:28

Stupid links - Homestart

buttonmoon78 Mon 14-Nov-11 10:09:53

Thanks guys. The w/e wasn't too bad as dh was around all the time to take some pressure off. He's also home tues/weds nights this week which will help.

Will check out homestart and I'd love to take you up on your offer spanner but I think Stoke on Trent is a little too far for you!

buttonmoon78 Thu 17-Nov-11 15:49:46

Well.... a 3 hour appt with the paed shock

Upshot is we're sticking with ranitidine, although doubling his dose to 7.5mg x 1ml x 3 daily. We're also introducing domperidone. And once we've been on domperidone for a week we're to restart weaning, and we saw the dietician for advice about that.

She was so lovely. I'd been so geared up for a bit of a scrap and turns out she was so nice that I cried with relief blush

Of course, as I predicted, it was Dr Jekyll who came with me today - all smiles for all the nurses, drs, dietician, other patients and their parents etc!

I know we're not out of the woods, but to finally feel as though we're being taken really seriously was lovely. She said that if it was up to her she'd be prescribing cleaners, childcare and massages to mums of reflux babies. Dr Piggot for Prime Minister - that's what I say!

JimmyChoo17 Thu 17-Nov-11 20:42:50

Oh my god if u start losing hair once u give up bf I'm done for! I thought it was lost after giving birth....I have that to look forward to! I was losing before sad was distraught! I never grew any extra hair whilst pregnant so to lose more will send me over the edge! having major image crisis already at moment. Do the whole "you look like this for your bundle of joy..."....but let's face it that doenst help remove stretch marks, boost boobs, lose c section over hangs and thighs that could feed a thousand!

Oh button I feel for you....I feel tears for you too (must take note to man up! Getting a right flimsy female nowadays!)

Want2bSupermum Sat 19-Nov-11 19:50:43

Button Great news about the Dr. So happy you got to see them. I can understand how you feel. Anna has had a really bad cold and my friend whose baby had awful reflux problems lent me a basinnet where the baby is is at an angle. Worked well at clearing her nose but she said it really helped her boy with his reflux problems. This is the model she lent me.

Winter I am losing hair but I have so much of it that I haven't noticed any bald spots. I saw my obn on Thursday for a full check up and I asked her about hair loss. She said if you a bald patch to call in and get a blood test done as sometimes the thyroid has problems adjusting. Very good that you have seen the dr about pnd. Hope you are able to get the help you need.

Jimmy My ass is so wide it needs hazard lights. My Dad is visiting and he has bought DH and I a gym membership to the YMCA. They have a creche from 8am-4pm during the weekend plus swimming lessons. Such a great gift as I can't exercise like I used to unless I just walk with DD. Hate jogging strollers....

isitreallythattime Wed 23-Nov-11 20:28:02

Jimmy you are not alone in feeling pants at the moment. For some reason I am STILL feeling hormonal, i have spots, hair falling out, major muffin situation and boobs have disappeared. Isn't funny how you feel rubbish for nine months and think it will all be back to normal after birht then 5 months on you feel your falling apart.
The hair loss thing may just be me stressing? I feel sick too.....

SpannerPants Thu 24-Nov-11 08:46:02

I've been feeling sick too isit - I have to make sure I have a good lunch because I can't eat after 4pm sad

My skin is awful too, I have rosacea (I was on roaccutane for it 18 months ago so it was pretty bad) and it cleared up during pregnancy but has come back with a vengeance and I can't have any treatment for it until I stop breastfeeding. I think being tired and stressed makes it worse, but I can't really avoid that at the moment!

DP's best friend's wife had their first baby last week and we went to see them last night, I was cuddling her thinking "Oh I miss newborn baby cuddles...maybe we should have another!" despite saying no way to any more for 16 weeks after DS was born. We need to wait at least 2yrs but I definitely want more than one now!

JimmyChoo17 Thu 24-Nov-11 12:53:17

isit yep, I knew things would change but as I didn't really become a major fatty during pregnancy, I'm annoyed that I've become one since! Mostly my fault but the first 6 to 8 weeks of troubles meant I put on plenty too.

And guess what,....my hair started falling out this week. In massive clumps. Keeping an eye out for patches but since I had problems already I'm dreading what I'll look like. Ive always had lovely hair so will be really noticeable as it was what everyone would comment on...How long did you ladies lose for? I know all are different but good to compare.

Hey...anyone see the july 2012 expecting thread? How long ago does it seem since we were doing that!

Ooo and want2be when I back in thru shop doors with the pram...I'm fairly sure I can hear a wide load reversing beep...maybe that's just my epidural cock up - tinnitus kicking in ha ha ....and dont even get me started on my cankles....ah...u gotta laugh or you will just cry...actually I'll do both.
is drinking wine in the day once u r a mum a bad thing? I think I need some today, big bottoms up! wine

buttonmoon78 Thu 24-Nov-11 15:27:28

I'd happily join you Jimmy but I'm getting over a bug and have not eaten since last nght so I think that would end badly!

Re hair - mine was thick and glossy whilst pg and looks like its coming out in clumps but isn;t really. I think its just going back to the way it was before sad Its always done that previously so I don't know why I'd hoped differently this time!

I too am falling apart though. Had tonsillitis this week and now a bug. I think the reflux might be easing a bit with his new drugs but he's got anothercold so that's not helping his temper!

buttonmoon78 Mon 28-Nov-11 12:29:48

smile grin smile

You may or may not remember that our insurance company played silly buggers after our accident - first they'd replace the car then after three weeks they said no etc. Well, I've been chasing them since and threatening to take them to the ombudsman etc and.....

They've only gone and agreed to my taken to the nth degree claim and offered us over £3k in compensation!

I can't stop grin

SpannerPants Tue 29-Nov-11 09:26:55

brilliant news Button! grin

DS has his final lot of jabs this morning. Only 4 weeks late but I'll be glad to get them out of the way!

itsTwiiiiiiiiiiitmaaaaaaasss Tue 06-Dec-11 19:21:34

Long time no see.
So sorry about what's going on with you Button I can't help but I can lend you some support. If nothing else I know how it feels to be lost amongst the shithole that used to be a home. I just can't seem to manage right now. Luckily DH gets it now and sees that I struggle and helps out.
Hi to everyone else, it's great to see you all.
SInce the school term began we have had;
colds (all 5 DC)
chicken pox (DD, DS3 & Babytwit)
stomach bug (everyone)

But other than that nothing to report. My hair is falling out steadily as usual, and I use one of those plug cover things to catch it all before it clogs the drains etc and my body hair is still at a standstill as it was when pregnant. Babytwit is still EBF just about as I am dithering about introducing solids 'cos I just can't be arsed TBH. I have made A Decision to use disposables over christmas as it is all getting a bit manic ATM. Me and Babytwit watched DD do her christmas performance today which was sweet - DS3's is next week and then it's Christmas Holidays YAY! I actually fecking hate Christmas right up until I go to bed Xmas Eve and then I love it. Really Fecking Hate It.
Babytwit is settling in nicely although he still wakes a couple of times at night and ends up sleeping with me most of the time but I don't really care. He sleeps on the three school runs a day we do and a bit in between.
He rolls and sits supported for ages, and accindentally on his own sometimes too. Um I think that's it really.

Want2bSupermum Mon 12-Dec-11 13:23:15

Twit I was so happy when DD's dr said to wait until 6 months to introduce solids! I think he was expecting me to argue with him but I told him that she can move on when she is ready and if she is 7-9 months old then thats fine with me!

Loving the bumbo seat that we got for DD. She can't sit up yet but loves to be upright. Also loving lamaze toys. My sister got her the dragonfly one. She is totally mesmorized by it.

JimmyChoo17 Sat 17-Dec-11 21:07:47

Just peeing on this thread again...I lost it!

Formula fed babies....how long does your baby go between feeds? DS used to be eating every 2-3 hours all day and maybe once or tiwice during night but all of a sudden can go ages.....I feel like he's not eating enough..He seems fine in himself but had Rosy cheeks yesterday and today...am guessing teething? But not sure if food habits are related.

How are everyone's Xmas plans? Got 13 over mine this year....
Luckily the oven decided to pack up last week rather than Xmas day...unexpected expense tho! This is the first month I've struggled with maternity wage suppose as I've been buying gifts. Thank goodness for savings! Maybe silly question but I've always done it same day...but how early can u prep veg? Peeled potatoes, parsnips, carrots and sprouts (parp parp!!) can I do it the night before and leave in water? Pots I mean and the rest loose in fridge?

SpannerPants Mon 19-Dec-11 17:46:19

I'm going to prep all the veg the day before and put it in the fridge in food bags - hope this will be ok as I have the in-laws coming over for Christmas dinner and I've never cooked for them before! Just hope DS isn't having a clingy day or I'll be cooking with him in the sling...

Want2bSupermum Wed 21-Dec-11 12:25:31

Jimmy - DD is on formula. I put 8oz in the bottle and let her feed until she is full. She normally takes 6-7oz. I still have her on a 4hr schedule, with 5 feeds a day.

Spanner be super careful about using a sling while cooking. I nearly burnt DD while doing thanksgiving dinner. DH put the temp up on some sausages he was frying and fat jumped up and hit her leg which luckily was covered. Luckily no damage but it scared me. Now she gets put in the exersaucer and is given her favourite toy to play with. If she gets cranky I sing to her.

Good news - I passed one part of my accounting exams. I am taking the 2nd exam in January and I am spending my holidays studying 6hrs a day. Passing the first part has given me the urge to push ahead and try to get the remaining 3 parts passed before DD turns one. Not easy to study during busy season but no pain no gain.

SpannerPants Thu 22-Dec-11 17:03:42

Well done on the exam want2b!

I'm not going to cook with DS in the sling, if he's being fussy DP can take him for a walk or play with him. I'm looking forward to it all being over though, it's stressing me out and keeping me awake more than DS is!

isitreallythattime Thu 29-Dec-11 14:24:58

Has anyone started to experience sleep issues due to rolling in bed? My lo rolls onto front and wakes upset as she's stuck, was up soooo much last night. Any suggestions?

SpannerPants Mon 02-Jan-12 07:08:19

No but I think it's a common problem isit!

We've just moved DS from his bedside cot (+ cosleeping most of the night) into his nursery and while we're all sleeping better (down from 7-8 night feeds to 2!) I really miss cuddling him all night sad

Happy new year to all with July babies grin

MissLolita Mon 02-Jan-12 21:59:18

Hello everyone, I didn't know this thread/group existed!! Hope everyone is doing ok? What have I missed?

buttonmoon78 Wed 04-Jan-12 10:04:36

Oooh - activity!

Well done want2be!

YesShesAGirl Thu 05-Jan-12 19:17:12

Hey ladies, just thought i'd check in, mostly on FB these days rarely mnet tbh, but wasn't sure who's missing from fb??

Quick update from us.

Isla still a really happy good baby, truely we are blessed she's 5.5m old, teething seems to have subsided slightly, she sleeps through most nights, but had a horrid cold thats had her up at night. Im really enjoying her tho, and looking forward to getting back to our little 'routine' now boys returned to school.

Hope everyone is well?? xx

WinterLover Mon 09-Jan-12 06:47:30

Gosh feels like ages since Ive been on here, I too spend more time on FB than MN (I can do FB on my phone smile) Do we (July 2011) have a group on there?

Well DS is 5.5months now and has offically caught up with his age group. He is now 17lb 1oz so just above the 50th centile line smile Im a very happy mummy. He feeds 8oz every 3 hours during the day then sleeps for 9-10 hours at night smile Although he has now learnt how to untuck his sleeping bag and figured how to roll over in it... He hates been on his back so I usually get a scream at about 4am to flip him back over.

inspireme Mon 09-Jan-12 16:35:46

Hi ladies I remember some of you from pregnancy thread, my DS was due 1st July but actually came 29th June. Didn't realise this thread existed actually.

A little update on my DS, he's nearly. 6.5 months, weighs a whopping 18lbs, he's ff now takes 8 oz four times a day, started solids 3 wks ago, doing mainly blw, going good (I think) and has been sleeping 11/12 hours since 7 wks old.

Would live to hear about your Lo's of the same age.

inspireme Mon 09-Jan-12 16:36:20

*love obviously

inspireme Mon 09-Jan-12 16:43:25

Oh and btw is anyone pregnant again??

buttonmoon78 Mon 09-Jan-12 16:50:31

Inspire I have been wondering the exact same thing but have been to lazy to ask!

DS is nearly 6m (16/7), ff (but on who knows what - 25-35oz per day), been having solids for a while (early due to bad reflux) but only really started enjoying it in the couple of weeks. Sleeping? Pah. Sleeping's for wimps! Actually, we had 4 great nights on the trot last week so I foolishly thought we might be turning a corner. Last two nights have been hell!

After rolling over twice in 5 mins the week before Christmas, he waited until this morning to repeat it, but he's doing really well at sitting. He's able to sit briefly with no support and loves his inflatable doughnut. He's also a whopper - I haven't had him weighed since 13/12 but he was 18lb then. Might go tomorrow to see what the porker is now grin

Does anyone know when it's not safe for them to be in their car seat? He has plenty of weight left but his head is really near the top of the seat. I know that with a forward facing seat it's when their head reaches the top but didn't know what the rules were with rearfacing, if they're different at all or not?

inspireme Mon 09-Jan-12 21:57:01

I've been looking into next stage car seats as DS is only 2lb off weight limit, we have m&p cybex Aton. He's long and heavy but feel he would be too young for stage 1 seat yet. Hoping he doesn't put on the 2lb for a wee while yet.

DS has only rolled over a couple of times and hates being on his stomach, but has been sitting up since he was about 5 months but hasnt fell over in about a wk or so, and I can't believe it but he stood today holding onto sofa. I set him on his feet but didn't hold him, he's been standing on our thighs from 5 months and always seems to want to get on his feet. DH walked at 8 months I didn't believe mil but perhaps DS will be similar!

DS has silent reflux but gaviscon in bottles had helped although he has boked up a lot the past few days so might have to go back to docs.

Would u consider another one anytime soon button?

buttonmoon78 Mon 09-Jan-12 23:53:01

You're having a laugh! DS is no4. There'll be no more baby buttons while I've got any control of the issue! I still have broody moments but really, I'm done.

Can't believe your ds stood! DH was walking at 9m but none of mine have walked before 18m.

I've actually bought two new car seats as they were such a good deal on amazon - Britax Prince - down to £60. My nephew has one (though it's his 'spare' as they're loaded) and they're pleased with it so I checked the fit finder and his in our cars and did the deed. They look lovely but I've stashed them in the garage for a good while yet. It was only today when I noticed how far up the seat his head came that I began to wonder!

buttonmoon78 Mon 09-Jan-12 23:59:33

Hmm. A swift google shows babycentre saying that you need to move them once the top of the head reaches the top of the car seat. But I don't have a reference for that yet. Another site said until their eyes are level with the top, but again, no reference yet. confused

inspireme Tue 10-Jan-12 21:08:38

DS is only our first, think we're going to start trying when he's near 2, so we'll hopefully have a 3 yr gap. He's a very good baby but I happy with just the one for a while. What ages are your other dc's ?

Just realised today I converted kilos to pounds wrong and he's got 10 pound to put on before we need a new seat, but he's long so will probably be too long before he's too heavy. Have my eye on britax evolva seat looks v comfy and won a few awards.

Yeah it's mad seeing him standing just looks far too young, he seems to do everything very early, I think we'll have our work cut out with him!

He's currently lying sleeping on me after his last bottle, he won't go down awake no matter what I do even his daytime naps are when he falls asleep on bottle.

SpannerPants Wed 11-Jan-12 22:56:12

DS is 6 months old tomorrow, weird to think I was in labour off my face on gas and air 6 months ago!

He's snuggled on my chest asleep at the moment and although I know I should put him in his cot, I'm really enjoying the cuddle smile

buttonmoon78 Thu 12-Jan-12 09:23:42

There's no 'should' about it. A year from now, will you regret cuddling him? Will you even remember what it was you 'should' have been doing (unless its your tax return wink)? You'll def regret not cuddling him though!

Pesha Thu 12-Jan-12 22:13:41

Finally got round to coming back and saw 'tax return' in Button's post and now thinking shiiiiiit!! Off to try and do mine! Promise to try and come back soon, need blw ideas amongst other things!

buttonmoon78 Fri 13-Jan-12 07:39:09


SpannerPants Wed 18-Jan-12 13:56:40

we've started BLW but DS isn't bothered about eating anything. He's had a good play with toast, will feed himself a couple of spoons of fromage frais but he's more interested in chewing the spoon and smearing it all over himself/highchair/bib! I tried him with purees but he clamps his mouth shut unless I let him feed himself.

At the moment I'm only offering him one meal a day as he doesn't seem interested, but should I be waiting until he's eating more to increase the number of meals I'm offering?

DonkeyTeapot Thu 19-Jan-12 13:16:48

Um, hello.... is it too late to join the party? I'm new-ish around here. I've taken the shocking liberty of adding myself to the list smile

Eglu - DD - 26th June
Ljil - DS - 30th June
isitreallythattime - DD - 12th July
broomformychin - DD - 14th July
SpannerPants - DS - 14th July
Buttonmoon78 - DS - 16th July
PWB- DS-16th July
DonkeyTeapot - DD - 19th July
JimmyChoo17 - DS - 22nd July
Scarthy1975 - DS - 23rd July
a11yj - DS - 29th July

DD was born on my birthday, do I win a prize? :D

DonkeyTeapot Thu 19-Jan-12 13:17:41

Oops, that was meant to be grin

WinterLover Thu 19-Jan-12 16:51:46

Argh I need help, Ive posted on Bottle feeding but had no help as yet...

DS has been using Nuby Natural Touch bottles since 3 weeks old, he's 6 months old next week and has decided this week that he can no longer suck from them, he cant seem to latch on with his bottom lip anymore, therefore is taking in loads of air and getting really arsey with it.

So far he has tried, Tommee tippee bottles teats, wide neck bottles, normal neck bottles and sippy cup/spouts and he's still not having any of it. Ive been and got some Mam ones as a few friends swear by them but he still struggled with them.

Im going mad as he's getting annoyed because he's hungry but cant seem to get much out of them.

Any ideas?

BumbleBee2011 Sat 28-Jan-12 18:54:13

Hello, can I join? Technically June but so close to July!

Eglu - DD - 26th June
BumbleBee2011 - DD - 27th June
Ljil - DS - 30th June
isitreallythattime - DD - 12th July
broomformychin - DD - 14th July
SpannerPants - DS - 14th July
Buttonmoon78 - DS - 16th July
PWB- DS-16th July
DonkeyTeapot - DD - 19th July
JimmyChoo17 - DS - 22nd July
Scarthy1975 - DS - 23rd July
a11yj - DS - 29th July

spannerpants we're doing BLW, DD played with food for 2/3 weeks before she actually put anything in her mouth, spoke to a HV and apparently that's very common. I read the Gill Rapley book (big geek alert!) and they say offer as often as you eat, so wouldn't limit to just one meal a day. It's so exciting when they start feeding themselves, but scary too when they gag the first few times!

winterlover my DD was getting awkward with her bottles (she's EBF but uses bottles a couple of times a week) at about 5/6 months old, we were using the tommee tippee bottles size 2 teats, went up to size 3 and problem solved - what size were you using? Could that be it? Otherwise...have you tried a normal cup? His bottom lip wouldn't be in the way then...

WinterLover Tue 31-Jan-12 11:12:19

We moved him onto Mam bottles with size 3 teats and he is so much better. He was on the size 3 ones for nuby but he just couldnt get his mouth round it hmm

Want2bSupermum Thu 02-Feb-12 22:11:44

WinterLover DD has done really well on Dr Browns bottles. A pain to clean but really good so far.

No idea what BLW is but DD has been introduced to food and I am hating the smells coming from her! We started with cereal, introduced 3 fruit and are now going through introducing 3 veg. I think next is beans and lentils. The dr has told us not to introduce meat until 9 months.... Not sure what we should and shouldn't be doing so just following Dr's instructions. DD seems to be happy and growing. My mother isn't happy that we feed DD non-organic food but I told her that I wasn't feeding her canned or jarred food.

BumbleBee2011 Fri 03-Feb-12 21:46:12

BLW - baby-led weaning (you let the baby handle food and they choose what/when to eat from whatever appropriate food you're eating). It teaches them good hand/eye coordination and they learn to stop eating when they've had enough, so are unlikely to over-eat when they're older and more prone to obesity. That and because they decide how to eat, you don't end up with the battle of wills some DCs are prone to.
You still get the same smells though smile

Want2bSupermum Thu 16-Feb-12 04:16:38

Thanks bumble. That sounds rather messy. DD is now getting meats as she had a massive growth spurt and wasn't sleeping through the nights. A bit of chicken with lunch and dinner filled her up and she is back on her normal schedule of sleeping until 6!

BumbleBee2011 Fri 17-Feb-12 11:26:36

Haha you're right about the mess! Though I take it there's a bit of mess whatever you feed them, I just wipe the highchair then then floor with a wet muslin then it goes in the wash with the bib. DD is getting really good at handling food, she's starting to use the pincer movement with her fingers so most of it is now going into her mouth!

She loves chicken too, I think it does help to fill them up for a longer sleep.

buttonmoon78 Wed 29-Feb-12 13:33:02

Hi all! I keep losing this thread!

DS was weaned early so is fed mush rather than BLW. Also, his reflux means his gag reflex is super strong so a tiny bit of carrot will make him puke everything he's eaten in the last few hours - very frustrating! I can't give him protein for his tea as if I do he consistently poos at 2am!

I too love Dr Browns bottles - they're ace though as want2b says, totally a pain to clean.

DS is now 7m (rapidly approaching 8) and still not sleeping through. Is odd as all the others were at this point! He's so lovely though, round and chubby and cuddly so when he wakes I bring him in with me where he snuggles in and goes back to sleep (generally).

SpannerPants Sat 03-Mar-12 18:52:41

we're having to do a mixture because DS has decided that he needs to be fed now, so he sits there with his mouth open and cries if you don't spoon the food in quickly enough! Although if it's something I've made he still refuses it, so I've resorted to buying ready made baby food, something I never thought I'd do but he'll happily wolf down a whole pouch of that instead of crying that my food isn't to his liking! I feel like I'm keeping Ella's kitchen afloat singlehandedly He has finger food at least once a day too, he loves cheerios because he can pick them up now. He also loves guacamole which is strange as plain avocado didn't go down well.

Another one not sleeping through here, not even close. Minimum of 2 night feeds but for the last 2 nights has been feeding every 1.5hrs. I go back to work in 4 weeks which is going to be interesting.

One of my other friends who had a July baby is 10 weeks pregnant with her second, I think she's very brave considering her DD isn't sleeping very well either but she wanted to have them close together.

Want2bSupermum Tue 06-Mar-12 18:49:03

I started to feed DD with cheerios chopped in half last week. She doens't like the taste but she loves trying to get them into her mouth. We have been lucky that she likes the food we make for her.

The sleeping is starting to be an issue. She woke up at 3am this morning and I assume it was due to her being wet and/or teething. Wouldn't be so bad if DH and I were not so busy with work/studies etc. She went back to sleep at around 5am but then I was up again at 6.

Spanner I would have loved to have started trying in Jan for #2 but I need to get my CPA exams and DH needs to finish up his MBA before we add to the mix. I have found that DD is very senstive to texture so when making food I add water so I am able to get a more smooth mush for her. Good luck with returning to work. It took me a couple of weeks to get back into the swing of things. Also, I was given advice by a friend to dress up DD for daycare. She swore that her DD was liked by the daycare staff because she was in cute outfits and arrived with a clean bum. After she told me this I have made sure that DD arrives, fed, in a cute outfit and with a clean face, bum and hands!

SpannerPants Wed 07-Mar-12 16:48:20

I'll bear that in mind want2b - DP will be getting him ready for nursery so I'd better get his clothes ready the night before! Just had his first nursery session, I was in the room with him and he was fine, seemed to enjoy having lots of toys and other babies to play with.

Want2bSupermum Thu 08-Mar-12 17:44:12

Spanner Not sure if it makes a difference or not but it gives me some sort of piece of mind that the staff don't think I neglect DD. I went back to work in October and really miss her as I only get time with her midweek is in the mornings from 6-7am. I work until at least 7.30pm and I work 9-3pmish on Saturday (although so far have been working as late as up to 9pm on Saturdays).

inbetweener Tue 13-Mar-12 15:58:43

Hello all !! Not sure if anyone will remember me ? I was last seem moaning terribly about being a week overdue with my boy. Well.....he's now here, born 27/7/11 weighing 9lb 8oz !! Horrid drug free birth that lasted 8 hours but I have my utterly beautiful boy now and Omg I am in love lol
It's so different having a boy after two girls. They really are lazy too aren't they !! He won't roll over, can sit but not for long and is nowhere near crawling. On the plus side, he is happy, easy, never moans and SLEEPS ALL NIGHT lol !!! 8 till 8 lovely ;)
Hope you are all well. I'm back to work on Monday, im gutted, so will have time to pop in. Take care all

Eglu Wed 14-Mar-12 22:03:59

Just catching up with this thread as it dropped off my list and I haven't been on for ages.

<waves to everybody>

Off to read now, and will post a catch up tomorrow.

Stangirl Tue 03-Apr-12 17:41:07

<waves> Hi, I too have been AWOL for months. DS born 11/7 8lbs 12oz by ELCS.

Just read the last few posts and see that everyone is busy weaning etc. DS won't feed himself so I'm doing it all. He's a big fella - 75th percentile - and is quite hungry so is drinking all his milk and eating 3 times a day. Can't be arsed with all the pureeing so it's Hipp jars all the way. Poor mite suffers terribly from second child syndrome - at least his sister had Ella's! He's just started crawling and whilst he goes down to sleep easily at 7pm he always wakes once in the night for a quick bottle of milk. He then sleeps through till around 7:30 - 8. I'm thinking of doing controlled crying to break the one night time waking then I'll be able to put the two kids into the same room to sleep (DD sleeps through).

JimmyChoo17 Sun 08-Apr-12 12:59:50

OOoo I found you again ladies! I only seem to be able to keep up on Fbook mainly as easy on mobile.

How are we all? DS is just over 8 months now....not proper crawling but whizzing about dragging or rolling about....I miss the sit still baby I had ha ha!! Still off work until Sept but feeling the pinch as last payday has been,...gone...and been spent....Bread and water all round in the house of JimmyChoo!

Want2bSupermum Thu 26-Apr-12 01:23:56

Hiya everyone. Been ages since I posted on here. DD is now crawling and is getting vocal but still can't say mama. Seems like yesterday I was on here complaining about huge ankles and my no salt diet! DH and I are even considering #2...

On the work front I made it through busy season and my sister getting married. The trip to Seattle for my sisters wedding was a nightmare but we survived (just).

Work so far has gone pretty well and while it was hard to go back early I am glad that I did. I am in a good position to be promoted this year. I am running my first audit this week and if things go well I think I will be running more of them over the summer and have enough experience by October to be promoted. A promotion will mean a pretty big pay increase which will make affording DC#2 that little bit easier.

JimmyChoo17 Thu 28-Jun-12 19:03:19

Yooooooohooooo July 2011 mums that are not on fb! how are you all?

Come have 1 year olds already some of us are near to it....where the hell did that go? I had to go to AnE today and it was a year to the day I was up there having a breech scan I think! Was actually a little jealous watching the mums waddle in ;-)

Mind you I also remember being preggers in this heat...and that was not fun...

JimmyChoo17 Thu 28-Jun-12 19:04:13

Oh and want2be....on that subject....has anyone embarked on the next bump? Come on fess up someone must be smile

SpannerPants Sun 22-Jul-12 19:20:31

I can't believe I have a 1yr old sad

No no.2 yet, although if I had my way we'd be trying right now! I'm so broody but we can't afford another until 2014 at least sad

buttonmoon78 Mon 23-Jul-12 11:10:04

Ha! There'll be no more bumps here! But watching with interest so I can live vicariously through others... wink

DS is now 1yr and 1wk. And sleeps like a newborn.

I used to be so smug. The fact that all my others slept so well was all down to me blah blah. DS was my slap in the face for being so smug. I'm a humble mother to a non sleeping baby now grin

I love him - he's so cheeky and lovable, and loving - he's always giving hugs and slobbery open-mouthed kisses but I'm so tired of no sleep at night. It's driving me to distraction.

Want2bSupermum Thu 26-Jul-12 03:18:32

Jimmy So DH and I are pregnant again and my due date is Feb 21st 2013. At the end of April I was laid off which was a huge shock as everyone in the office was talking about me being promoted. In any case I am studying like mad for my exams so I can get them done before DC2 comes along.

DD is an absolute joy and full of giggles. We threw her first birthday party last weekend and next year we will do things differently as I don't know if I can survive these parties.

Button Glad to hear he is sleeping! Took him a while but at least he has caught on.

buttonmoon78 Thu 26-Jul-12 07:26:28

Woohoo! Congratulations!

Want2bSupermum Thu 26-Jul-12 13:09:00

Thanks button. Have to say I miss you guys. I am on the due in feb thread and everyone has migrated to facebook. As DH has my log in details for FB but not for MN I really don't want to go on there!

JimmyChoo17 Fri 04-Jan-13 21:31:51

Hey non fbookers, how are you all getting on?

BumbleBee2011 Sat 05-Jan-13 10:26:02

Wow I haven't been on here for a while (oops, not sure how I managed to drop off so spectacularly!)

DD is super, so funny and just a general delight. I think this is a very cute age, with so much personality!

I am 15 wks pg with number 2 now, (had an early mc in August last year) so I am now due exactly the same week 2 years after DD, just edging into July 2013.

Anyone else?

KamikazeeKid Sat 05-Jan-13 15:26:44

Ive been looking for this thread for ages with no luck!! Hello all!!

Ahhh congratulations!! Sorry to hear about your loss.

Are you on facebook? Trying to work out if you are?? There are a couple of new babies and pregnancies announced I think.
DS1 Is just amazing fun hes such a joy to be about smile

I have changed my name tho just for now...as I am rather warily announcing I too have joined the pregnancy game again!! Im about 5-6 weeks however I feel incredibly normal. I have had losses before DS1 so am worried that I have no intense symptoms and this time last time I had my head down the loo ALOT!! Im just hungry and weeing alot....which I dont get as I thought that happens once you start balooning....

I headed straight onto MN to read about symptom-less early days...which reminds me...I hate pregnancy worrying grin Plus I ate so much cured meat, pate etc and drank a fair bit over Xmas before finding out!

Hopefully all is well though. I'll be due in Sept 2013 x

BumbleBee2011 Sun 06-Jan-13 14:25:17

Congratulations Kamikazee grin

Don't worry about worrying, that just happens regardless of circumstances. And I get very hungry/weeing early on in pg, so that's a good sign!

I do use Facebook - how do I find you all? Is there a link?

JimmyChoo17 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:20:02

You have to be added I think if you message me your name and what you look like in your profile pic so I know which Jo bloggs it is I'll try!

Congratulations kk!!

MrsMillions Fri 11-Jan-13 11:59:51

Hi ladies

I'm a July 2012-er with a quick question that I thought you might be best placed to help with.

My MIL is desperate to start knitting things for what will be her first DGC. I'm hoping to reign her in until after the 20 week scan but she has asked what we would like. My own hunch is "nothing yet, it'll be July I.e. (hopefully) not cold" (also they'll grow out of newborn things do quickly I don't want her making too much) but politically I think I need to let her do something.

So what knitted items did you/your relatives make for your July babies that were vaguely useful right away?


BumbleBee2011 Sun 13-Jan-13 11:47:42

MM - my MIL knitted us a baby blanket, that was very useful and will be a great little keepsake.

Got a lot of other random knitted stuff, I think cardigans were the next best thing as they just go over smear clothes when there's a bit of a chill (if they are white, so they go with more outfits).

KamikazeeKid Sat 26-Jan-13 14:11:12

Def a nice knitted blanket! We also had 2 knitted cardigans and a hat which were gorgeous. Newborns in July still get wrapped up so a bit of knit might be useful.

I must say I hate knitted items normally but his little blanket is a great keepsake and special as made with love :-) its a dying tradition

Want2bSupermum Tue 05-Mar-13 02:38:28

So I had DS last Monday. He is a whopper at 10lb 6oz. We called him Philip Christian. DD has so far taken it in her stride. DH is doing a fab job of making sure she isn't missing out on attention.

My obn didn't want to do a VBAC because if anything hadn't gone to plan they would have had to do an emcs anyway. My recovery from the planned CS was much faster than with DD.

Bf wasn't going well as DS lost 1lb in two days plus started getting jaundice. The paediatrian suggested pumping but when the lacation consultant told me I would need to pump every 2-3hrs once I go back to work I ran to formula. I was laid off last year and got a new job with a fab company. It is darn hot here in summer and I don't fancy running out to my car to pump while at a client.

MM DH cousin knitted us lovely waffle weave blankets for both DD (cream) and DS (dusky blue). She used 50/50 wool/acrylic so they work well in the heat and the cold while being machine washable. My MIL paid a fortune for a 'princess' blanket for DD. I used it twice because it is handwash only and pulls at the slighest tug.

SpannerPants Sat 30-Mar-13 07:47:35

Congratulations want2b!

My gran knitted a load of things which went straight to our local NICU - they were not to my taste at all (and were far too small, she's losing her marbles and knitted DS a load of hats which would have been snug on an orange, never mind a term baby with a 90th percentile head!

PregnantPain Sun 07-Apr-13 09:57:44

Hi all catching up it has been a while, I was purpleplump initially can't remember the nc I had with you guys. My DD is 21 months old in 3 days. Am also due in 5 weeks with DS!

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