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<death cries of last thread obv>

Thanks, i didn't notice it was about to die.

Whew I thought I may actually have to start a thread then for a second I was staring at a blank page debating what to call it! whew! thanks for that Flame (btw I ate some popcorn for you earlier!) How's the bump today? less tight?

EPPM if you're going to Selly Oak, you may see my friend,(Dr Bates) she's just starting her 1st registrar post there in Dermaholiday
for dd being a madam when her friend came over, I hate it when they do that.... last time dd1 did it, I ended up playing outside with her two friends, whilst she stropped about in her bedroom

MRM yay for day at work and extra woot for missing the McD's party!

So I threw the towel in this am and brought a new fridge freezer, had to go with hotpoint, as the only thing bar another crappy Beko, that will fit the hole we have (ok Fridgidare did one too, but too small) and to be honest the hotpoint one, was the only other one that looked like it could fit a pizza box in and now totally brassy but at least we can have fishfingers, peas and icecream again and the staff in our local sainsbos and coop won't think I'm a looney who stalks their wares every day......

Ello. Thanks for new thread.
Yay for new fridge freezer.
Yay for derma referral and new tooth. How many does he have now?

Ok, so I diidnt cliam on Flame's link before replyinig to you csws! you'll have to go read the other thread.

friz- it'll be children's...

Ds1 has got tongue tie . He has to go to ENT at hospital. He got quite upset today when the doctor was trying to look in his mouth so i'm dreading taking him to hospital. I was meant to ring for an appointment tonight but dh is on nights and ds2 has spent almost all evening screaming so haven't had chance.

for selling stuff on ebay csws. I've got loads that needs to go on and i just can't be arsed to do it.

Hope babygus isn't making you uncomfy tonight flame.

for job mrm. I need to make an appointment for a new tattoo but think yours might be too far to travel.

Can't believe your ds is weaning already eppm

scary isn't it?

sorry to hear about DS1 though dh still has his effectively- he can't put his tongue out of his mouth properly, and cannot pronounce his 'r's either...

Busy day. Out all day and very tired, so no proper post.

mrm - I have sent my phone no via facebook as I don't have your email any more.

Phoenix, I know it will be hard but it will be better in the long run. Not just for the speech issue - DH says his has got tighter over the years and it aches at times, just randomly

Babygus is playing up tonight as well. Haven't felt "right" since mid afternoon. Not having contractions or anything, but not feeling normal either.

Yay for tooth.

Yay for freezer.

Have forgotten the rest.

How many weeks are you now? I know I should know

Phoenix, what a graet idea! Come down for a visit and you can get tattoo done at same time! I'm sure we can fit you all in our house somewhere, Lewis could go in with the boys! And with the discount I'll be able yto get for ou, the tattoo will cost North prices anway

Got numbers Jas, ta. So, whats best? To get train to station and wa;lk, or is it still close to get that 217? Or would I end up too far away from the mills?

10 weeks to go for Flame MRM....(prob nearly 9 now!) and then she's usually 2 weeks early right, so does that make it 7 'dangles Flame bait'

Have a lovely meet up tomorrow you guys, gunpowder mills sounds like it could be fun? is it what it says on the tin?

EPPM ah Childrens, of course I don't think she's had a rotation there yet? she did Heatlands for a while, but has been mainly Selly Oak recently.

Phoenix, looks like you have a date at MRM's then Sorry to hear about the tongue tie causing the problems with ds1's speech but good advice from peeps here, sorry I don't have any getting over fear of Dr tips

Twiddling thumbs waiting for delivery here, dum de dum....

How have we developed a myth of me being 2 weeks early?? I was 4 weeks late with DD, and on my due date with the dude.

Didn't take to long for you to take that bait, Flame!

Sorry about the tongue tie Phoenix. I hope you can get it sorted quickly for him. Do you have books/dvds he can look at about nice drs and hospital visits maybe?

mrm....do you remember where macdonalds was? It is the left turn right there as you come from the train. Probably not worth the bus, maybe only 2 stops. I will be there from 12.30, but if you want to come earlier, let me know and i can meet you.

DS cut through the hover cable with wire cutters today. While I was using it
He is a very lucky boy. Totally unharmed.

The wire cutters had a hole burned into them, and the electrics tripped out.

He is bloody lucky Jas. Glad he wasn't hurt.

Flame - How did you go 4wks over with dd? Thought you could only go over by 2wks?

Never thought of books Jas. I bought him 3 books to explain about the baby coming and him been a big brother.

Sounds like the kind of thing ds2 would do too.

Ok, I'll aim for 12.30, I'll get the train as I've at least been there once vfore! I think I remember the route

Train statin is closer than the bus station, too

Flames 4 weeks over is due to Drs and her not agreeing on a due date in the first place I think. They thought she was 2 weeks over.

Ok, we're gonna leave here 10.30ish, so that'll prob be more like 11, so should be there bout the right time. Ds1 very excited bout seeing the girls, not so excited bout not just coming to your house to watch Spiderman and chexck out the toys

They thought I was on time. When she was born they then agreed that she was a min of 2 weeks over.

I knew my dates due to only one incident of sex, and that by their dates I had a pos test at stupidly early, and we heard heart beat through a doppler before it was possible

Argh for wire cutters!!! DS has done many little git things today (far too many to list), but thankfully none life threatening

Did mention ds2 swung off the curtains, braking the rail and pulling a huge chunk of polaster out of the wall? That was the morninig vefore the Ikea security alert

ooh Flame- your DH has tongue-tie too? What an odd coincidence!

Wasn't it glorious today? <sigh> almost like a real summer...

Jas- thank goodness he's okay.

Phoenix- your library might have something- ours has a whole shelf of 'families like ours' which is basically books about different situations for children to learn about- mum with disabilities, 2 dads, having an operation etc...

Eek for wire cutters.

Ds smashed our big Sony Bravia tv today (was in bedroom - not big one in living room). He was fine though - just a little shocked at first.

Have fun tomorrow mrm and Jas.

Argh for curtains. How long did it take to find him in ikea anyway?

I though that too EPPM! Midwives always give me a weirdy look because after both of them the first question I ask isn't fingers/toes, it is "Is the tongue ok?!"

EEeeeekkk for the wire cutters Jas, glad he's ok phew.

MRM eek for the curtains too

Phoenix, there's an episode or two of Me Too! that is a big hospital one, might be of use if you can find it?

Flame at you taking the bait!
never mind we'll be with you, in spirit at least in the long wait!

CSWS for the TV, is it working still?
Try not to buy a new one till next year if you can (unless its an insurance job) as all TV's will be produced with internet capability from next year, so you'll be able to do all this on your tv!

csws- how on earth? Did he throw something?
mrm- missed the curtain thing.... eek.

mrm - do you know where I can get hold of a voucher to get dd into warwick castle for free? Have bought tickets for dh and i with clubcard vouchers.

aha - am i right in thinking that under 4's are actually free to get in anyway?!

eppm -

There's a little table built into the bottom of our bed (it's like this one) and the telly was on there. Dh recently moved the little one that was there and put the bigger Sony Bravia one there instead. Ds likes to climb up on the platform at the bottom of the bed and then stand up and put his sticky paws on the tv. He was doing this, but obv put too much weight on the top of the TV and it toppled over and the screen smashed on the little bars on the side of the table.

missed the tv smashing

omg, ok tv beats curtains!

warwick; chargable fron agew 4. its £10, or £9 booked online.
Ah, I love Warwick Castle . SAy hello to Mark the bowman for me

Going with my other pn thread ladies in a couple of weeks .

thank goodness it didn't fall on him though...

Another lucky boy.

Flame - both times it's never occurred to me to ask about the tongue or fingers/toes and i've got one with tongue tie and one with a missing finger

Frizbe - I'm not putting myself through any episodes of Me Too thank you very much . I've seen a few books on Amazon which i'll get if our library don't have any (thanks eppm)

We're going to Lazytown Live in Leeds tomorrow and i'm actually looking forward to it. My parents are having Noah so its just a treat for Lewis

I've ordered Lewis' christmas pressie today. We've decided on a Nintendo DS. I know he might be a bit young but he's got a Leapster and he absolutely loves it and got the hang of it straight away but there isn't much choice of games for it so we thought with a DS there's alot more choice.

So, for those of you who havent seen Jas lately, she 's still lovely . Had a great day, ds1 sooooo happy to see thegirls! Both went loopy from tiredness on way home, but therer you go. We got in about 7.30 Jas

Oh hello Phoenix! ds1 is desperate for a ds, but we're holding out mainly due to cost but also cos then he'll expect big things forever then! Plus it makes it more special for him cos he plays his Granny's one when she comes to visit

Hello, glad you had fun today

that made me laugh mrm! Isn't she though?

christmas! not actually thought about that one yet...

dd has been a nightmare today- picked all the sequins off the jeans she was wearing when I was soothing an upset DS to sleep...
been grumpy and whiny in general all day really!

lovely Am I???

The dds and ds also had a great time, but 7.30 to get home....that is too long Sorry.
Thankyou for coming over.

DS has dd1s old ds (which he broke s only the bottom screen works), but isn't very god at many of the games really.

I was thinking abut Christmas plans in the bath this evening funnily enough. No presents decided though. DD2s birthday first (and mine)

ds has just cut his own hair

Oh dear.... photo?

Anyone with words of wisdom here

will put them on when I've loaded the post-hairdresser one onto the computer this evening.

Was his hair still long before he cut it?

see pics on profile

It was all one length. DP put the hairdresser off cutting any more off than absolutely necessary, but we will take him back next week and get more layers put in.

MY friend who saw mrms ds yesterday said her ds2 looked older than ds, but now he looks the same age....

Y'know, I don't think it looked too bad pre-hairdresser.

Aww Jas, he does look all grown up suddenly eh {{hugs}} you'll get used to it (says the woman whose not had dd2's hair cut, cause she's good and like it long and brushed/platted etc ) btw you are lovely (as is everyone on this thread )

Will someone tell my kids to go to sleep please

Flame ring MW, she'll set your mind at ease.

We got a night out last night went for a bite to eat, then saw GI Joe, which is great, if anyone gets chance to see it!
The kids went to Skeg with the grandparents, they had a great time, maybe hence why they're still rattling on now

I've added a holiday pic of the length up to today.

It looked like a really bad mullet on one side, csws.

Yay for the night out.

The dds are out again (we take turns to host movie night, and anything up to 10 children gather and watch a dvd)

Lol jas, I read that as you ewere thinking of what you weregoing to be doing in the bath over xmas
I've got most of my xmas shopping done, as usual. Jusy not done boys present from us and from each other. And some bits for my Mum and Dad.

I like the new hair. ds2 cut his a while ago, but he had so much you couldnt tell, even though therer was loads on the floor!

Yes you are lovely . I knew it would take 2 hours; the extra half hour was due to being half way down the staircase to the platform whgen the train left . And we did pop in the drive through for a happy meal to munch as walking!

I've got really skinned knuckles from boxing yesterday; it hurts! Esp when shampoo got in it as I showered after the evenig classes.

Got 3 hours adult time today with dh; kids on a playtdate. Will prob go to the gym then for something to eat.

Jas, I'm getting my wings put on my man this afternoon

Did you see that thread about t3esting new kids electric toothbrushes? One came in the post yest

Oh I've wanted an electric toothbrush for dd for ages, but I missed the thread .

This is a really jazzy one; timer, music, all singing all dancing

I think i read that toothbrush thread and was for ages 4 and up csws. I could be imagining that though.

I've just dropped on a cancellation appointment to get tattoo done tomorrow Just need to decide where to have them (Lewis and Noah's star sign symbols)

Jas - ds' hair looks lovely (after the hairdressers )

Its got two heads, one for 4+ one for 7+. so technically ds1 should have the 4+ and ds2 too young, but can you imagine the argument if one had it one diidnt?! So they are having one head each for the trial, after which the novelty will wear off for ds2 anyway, and it will become ds1's sole property

hurray for tattoo phoenix . I've got to transfer the photo of my latest off the phone onto pc, then i'll put it on omy profile. Jas hates it but she didnt see it with the final touches I had done yesterday

So, my advice is, if you cant dance and you're over 15, dont go to a hip hop class at the gym . Chicago classwas great though!

Think we're having an insde day today, other than corner shop for milk and loo rolls. Got a few bits to sell on ebay, and might do crafts with the boys.

I don't hate it. I just wouldn't have it on me! Wings will have improved it I think.

I like the tree alot though.

Ok photo on profile, but you cant really see much . You ever tried taking a photo of your own back?

Ah ha! Changed it for a better one. got ds1 to take it!! Why didint I think of that before??

ignoring tatts - how little is your waist now?!!?!?

Aww for the hairdressing boy Jas, but his new hair does look very nice.

CSWS - have been officially banned from visiting. 2hrs round trip yesterday didn't do me much good, so am not allowed to consider driving to you.

Its an optical illusion but thank ypou. Ds1 got a nice bit of builders bum there too

MRM, can't see the man one very clearly. Love the tree one and the one with ds' names . I had mine done today they're on my profile.

Very nice Phoenix Are they on your wrists?
What will you do if you have anther dc??

Yes wrists. No more DC'S ever

Sh'es got 2 ankles too

I like the aquarius one cos thats me!!

Will get someone to take a closer pic; ds1 did his best.

flame. Will still have to try to make it to you, though goodness knows when!

I still hate tattoos, but if I didn't then I suppose they are quite nice. I can't really make out the big one of yours mrm, but agree that you have a skinny minny waist now.
Where is the tree one? It looks like upper back, but then can't understand why I can't see it in the other pic .

I was trying to work out the tree one too.

I hid the nail scissors from DS, now my toenails desperately need cutting and I can't find the things

Lol, yes its upper back, and the camera doesnt go up that far on the other photo. Or maybe I have a body part none of you know about and noone else has

Dh and I like the tree one too, we guessed upper back due to a bit of a chain showing in the photo! We need closer pics of the lower back ones. Have you killed yourself at those dance classes then

Phoenix, liking yours too

Had a lovely weekend crewing at larp here kept the girls happy by letting them run around in fairy costume all weekend, oh yeah and leaving them alone with a box of snazaroo, which has resulted in them becoming dyed red and yellow they've had a great time! They were also most curious about the Buddist shrine that has appeared in the top field of the house we use and dragged dh up to have a look too!

Nah, dance wasnt hard work cos spent too much time trying to grt on top of the moves! Got Bollywood dance tomo night

Will do closer pic when I meet my friend, as she is prob bit more capable than ds1 with my camera phone!

<runs in quick> I am selling my business....

<proud>

Well done.

How much? <nosey>

Nice one

Well done

Wow! congratulations Flame

to the mner who enquired?

mrm- your waist is looking very slinky! I cannot tell what your tattoos are of though... middle one is the woman you showed previously, yes?

This is probably a really odd thing to think... but phoenix I didn't realise you could have a tattoo whilst bfing
Okay... I'm a weirdo, aren't I? Why on earth couldn't you?

Haven't posted for a few days- has been hellish- we put ds into dd's room...
He is fine...

Also, had him weighed and weight gain v slow bfc is concerned, but will wait until he has seen the dermatologist in sept before referring to paed.

You're not supposed to really. Just incase.

Yes, its middle lady, with 2 new figures.

hello can i join ds was born on 1st feb 2006!

Not tellin sale price, but yes, to the MNer.

I thought the same about tattoos and feeding.

for you having room sharing issues EPPM. With the weight gain - dude gave up on putting on weight (or really growing) from about 6 months for aaaaaaaaaaaages. He was perfectly healthy, just very small.

<waves to MehdisMummy>

Is he still tiny btw Flame?!

Just for EPPM and friz, I've put anotyher photo on;its my last attempt at trying to take a decent picture of my own back! Still ont great though.

He's evening out a lot more lately. One of the smaller ones of his year group, but not smaller than his year iyswim.

Crouching man def looks better with his wings.

God, how stupid am i, i never even thought about that but luckily i'm no longer breastfeeding.

Hello Jas Ta! you stil lke the treee better though?!

Back to gp; spots seem to be coming back and I dont wanna take the chance as we're away for 2 days.

You joined us before medhismummy, but then you disappeared!

How come you gave up bf Phoenix? I thought it was going well for you.

Yay for selling business. To which MNer?
(tell me the price on msn )

Eek for room sharing EPPM.
I'm in Worcester atm btw. Not sure of plans for each day yet, but could feasibly come to your town on Friday, and maybe do SeaLife again (with dh this time). Do you have plans for then already?

mrm- what is the other guy doing? is he a bowman????

phoenix- sorry , hadn't realised that.

csws- we are going away friday- camping for the weekend with other mners ... am around tomorrow or thurs though.

Hi mehdismummy....

flame- it worries me that he is going to be small though my brother was tiny as a child, and is pretty small now- so much so that it prevented him being selected by olypmic squad in his sport not saying that would be necessarily the case for ds, but it worries me.

EPPM {{{hugs}}} try not to worry too much, I'm sure ds will grow fine, he's probably just stalling, they all do at some point. Glad he's settled in new room ok, sorry dd isn't taking it as well though......Happy Camping! (we're i.e. me and girls are going overnight on Thurs with friends/kids too!)

CSWS hope you're enjoying Worcs?

MRM dh said, 'is that a squirrell' I said no its a bloke with wings/an angel....are you going to do more stuff around them? looks like you're going to create a bigger picture?

Flame, yay for sale

Hello everyone else, anyone got anything planned for the weekend? (bar EPPM's camping?) we don't have yet, but I'm thinking Warwick Castle may be on the list, as have shockingly realised only two weeks left of school hols and of course we're down Christchurch for the last week! I went to get my hair cut today and can't get in till school is back, how shocking is that

we're going to warwick castle on sunday friz!

Sorry can't do today or tomorrow eppm.
Enjoy camping .

Ah yes EPPM, but say your brother had wanted a career as a jockey or something, it would have been a bonus.

(Will try and reply to the rest later)

Off for our 2 days at Chessington today But its just me ands the boys, as my friend is no longer coming (ds2 still has 2 spots, and we took him back to gp, who now says might not be impetigo, nd prob not vontagious as we didnt get any from him, but he's got diff medicine to try and cleat up fibal spots). Friend is wasting 2 days free at chessington and her £35.99 on the hotel cos she thinks ds2 will infect her ds and dd.

Er, no its not a bloody squirrel! They do look clearer in real life tho to be fair! The other man is holding the vine thats attached to the lady's vine . I'm not intending more as such Friz, but nwver say never

lol @ squirrel

It is clearer in rl (but you're right, I do still prefer the tree)

Nothing this weekend, I hope.

We did the NHM yesterday, a day trip on the train yesterday (back 7.30...I bought macD fr the dds and made them walk home from the train station), gunpowder today, Wildlife park tomorrow, and my parents on Friday.
I'm plannning on sleeping on Sat!

Have fun on days out everyone (your friend is a nutter mrm. No way would I have cancelled!)

rofl... I thought racoon at first!

flame- yes- jockey... he would have been perfect height and weight!

Friz- I need a haircut too... is getting ridiculously long... but too scared as always

EPPM - No need to apologise, i honestly never thought about tattoos and bf'ing.

No longer bf'ing because, honestly, i dreaded every feed, i really didn't enjoy it. I couldn't have ever done it in public . I bf for 3wks til i got him back over his birth weight and then just fed him at night but have stopped completely now. So maybe selfish reasons but i didn't even intend to do it that long.

Lol at squirrel and racoon

ffs

One of my reasons for stopping b/f DD was to go into pretty bras... I think that wins for selfish reasons

I want to see the squirrel and raccoon in rl

Took DD candle lighting last night - annual thing, been going in Bournemouth gardens for as long as I know. Lots of coloured glass jars with tea lights in them all hung up in designs, you go round with tapers and light them. I went every year as a child with no problems at all. First time I take my children, and one of the jars fell and smashed - cut DD's foot . Only a couple of little scratched but shook her (and me!) up. Will go back again though I'm not letting one freak accident put us off. The St John's Ambulance woman looked a bit at me when I was saying to DD "See, I told you not to be scared of the fire.... it was the glass that hurt you!"

I'm back

Lol at your thread Falme!

Welcome back mrm. Was ds2 ok?

Hope you're enjoying camping EPPM

Lovely weather here today. We spent the afternoon in the park with the ds'.

Was it good MRM, hows ds, spots all clear now? Flame is right, we need to see Tats in real life!

CSWS I don't think we'll make it this weekend, but we might try and squeeze it in next week on the way down to Christchurch hope you enjoyed it

Flame, argh! what to do with the boy! do they have climbing in the olympics? you may have a champion on your hands

EPPM, take it you don't like hairdressers then?

Have been camping for a night on Thur night here with some other mums, was lovely, nice meal at pub, then star watching with wine, whilst we attempted to get kids to sleep Kitten appears to have missed me, as he's not left me alone since!
In other news dd1 has more friggin nits...think its someone at holiday club, as all should be dead after last sundays treatment, but found two more on Wed night and a further one friday am have rung club and told them about re infection n could they please put a note up

XPosts Phoenix was gorgeous here today too, have spent day at home, for 1st time in ages! caught the dd's watering dd2's bedroom carpet though....a suspicious moment when all went quiet.... Glad you had lovely afternoon

Having a result here at the moment, the kids seem to have forgotten I exist, have gone 15 mins without being asked to do something

Have taken them all swimming this am, and thus we have to take ss back home this avo, so am going via Meadowhall, might attempt the Shakeaway que again, if its not too big? might also try and get another pair of jeans and get dd1 school shoes too Have weighed self and am disgusted I appear to have put on half stone over hols, by mainly just not exercising 3 x a week back to the grind in two weeks, once the kids are back eh, or I'll not be fitting in my new size jeans much longer

Mine are chasing DH and the strimmer round the garden.

meri doesn't sound cut out for camping Frizbe

But she was the one who used to camp in the woods with her dad n bears n guns n everything they used to fish for their tea etc! she should be!

She has growed up and gotten home-itised It was the various tweets about being cold and not enough coffee

we're back!

We were at CC Frizbe have left it clean and tidy, and ship-shape! The stars were amazing- could clearly see the milky way etc

Temp ranged from 29 down to 13 (inside the tent) - was pretty nice most of the time, with only the briefest of rain one night.

Am v tired.... <snore, thunks keyboard>

I know what you mean Flame! she likes it really, just pretends she doesn't!

EPPM for you having a great time, it got down to about 13 at night for us too, the stars were fabulous though, I know I'm only in a small town, but I sooooo miss being able to see them at night clearly (we can sometimes see them ok in the front garden, but nothing beats pitch black fields!)

Oh brought dd1 school shoes that fit today, hurrah! she's a 12.5 G (huge!) was having problems as no one seemed to have half sizes in stock, but after a huge que to get seen at Meadowhall finally got some, phew (whose betting she grows out of them in the next 2 weeks then?)

ds1's feet never grow anymor. I've also decidedd to not buy new uniform, as he only trashes it anyway!

We're doing the shoe and uniform thing next Tuesday <shudder> Her old shoes lasted nearly a full school year so are completely wrecked regardless of foot size, and her uniform is indecent on the arse Need to check her skirt actually - that may be doable.

We're still battling over trousers. I am a Mean Mummy. School trousers look like sh*t imo <insults Frizbe if she has bought trousers>. I think the only ones I would consider would be insanely expensive wool blend type ones, and even then you either need too long, or to replace them as they have a growth spurt. DD wants trousers as her friends have them due to them having "nice mummies". I am being petty. I buy the uniform, therefore no soddin trousers. So there.

I would never have worn trousers to school, I'd rather have run away (too fat for trousers). AS it happens, I had the same skirt for the whole 5 years of secondary school tyou know; started off ankle length, ended up above my knees

I think I only had the one for secondary too

Oh crap.

DH has just been on the phone to FIL. MIL has cancer on her face, and is weeing blood (ie, not just "blood in wee" iyswim). They are apparently waiting for various test results. This can't be good can it?

I've already done uniform, shoes and new bags and lunchboxes for the dds[smug]
Even got a spiderman bag for ds fr nursery to replace the old one of dd2s he has been using.

DD1 only wears trousers, dd2 only skirts so can't even hand down the grown out of trousers from dd1

flame. Doesn't sound good.

Mum is waiting for breast biopsy result at the moment, but we might never speak to her again away, so not sure if we'll be told result or not. Suspect it'll be fine and that spots on scan will be due to her steroids.

Dd will only wear twirly twirly skirts, so we're screwed if her school uniform doesn't allow them!

Is 12.5G really big Friz? It doesn't sound it. Dd is 9G already.

flame

csws- I take it you had a really good week then?

Think we're getting new uniform tomorrow too... <boak> it is so vile ... she can wear summer uniform until half term... but in pre-reception year you have to have the blazer too... and it is £84, so I think it works out better to buy the winter uniform. At least next year she'll get 1 and 1/2 terms wear out of it.

Indeed EPPM. I even have the (human) claw marks on my arms to prove it.

£84 for a blazer.

Flame.

We got the results for Noah's kidney scan today, it's all normal . I've got my GTT tomorrow. And Lewis has an appointment on 22nd Sept for his tongue tie. All we seem to have lately is hospital/doctor/hv appointments.

Phoenix- glad the scan was fine.

csws- have you ever looked in on the 'stately home' threads?

They're trying to force blazers into our school too, burt I'm resisting. Not as much as £84 but still too much; if he didnt have to have logo pekit, then we could get it from asda like the rest of his unirom and so afford the blazer. But I hate blazers anyway. Just remebered though that he lost his woolly hat (logo one), shit. Akll uniform is aordered online noe .

Great news re scan Phoenix. How was GTT today?

I've looked in on them occasionally EPPM, but not posted.

God news on kidney scan Phoenix Good luck with all the other appts.

csws. Sorry you had a rubbish time away.

No blazers here til senior school, and they let you buy a plain black unbranded one and sew on the badge yourself....they know their catchment area well!

I have a bedroom
Not decorated yet (needs replastering first) but a bed in a room DD2 and ds are in their (almost) finished room now.

When i went for GTT i was expecting to be sat around bored stiff for 2hrs but they said they've changed how they do it now and they only take a fasting blood test then you go home so i was only in a few mins . They will only contact me if that blood test shows anything.

for bed Jas

Sounds a bit odd Phoenix! My fasting ones when they detected the GD were fine, so sounds like a pretty crap and pointless test!

Yay for new room Jas. At last!

Some of the time away was nice. We had a day at the beach (though the sea was out too far to even really see!) and a day at the safari park, which dd (and we) really enjoyed.

I think that dd might have a bruised or cracked rib from some acrobatics on the trampoline yesterday. Going to see chiropractor friend tomorrow to get her to have a fiddle and see what she thinks.

Oooh hope dd is Ok CSWS, sounds painful for her. Sorry you had a bad time at your mums, hope her biopsy comes back clear.

Flame doesn't sound too good, might be ok though, skin cancer is quite treatable if caught early enough and you can get blood in urine with bad UTI infections (fingers x'd that's what it is)
don't worry I haven't brought trousers for dd1! I need to sort out a day to catch up with you next week, txt me if you free!

Phoenix, yay for ds being ok and for the tests being so quick for the GD! good news you have a date to sort the tongue tie out, did you find a good book to help calm things down?

Yay for bedroom Jas at last!

Good news here, we're opening another store its all in the hands of the solicitors now, so hopefully I don't jinx anything by telling you, it will be in Beeston, Nottingham I've sweetalked Unquiet Dad into coming down and doing a signing on our Grand Opening day in Nov (prays that we have the store open by then!)

Nottingham? Not North London?

Eek for rampoline. Our neighbours friend aged 6 broke his arm on one last week.

Hurray for a bedroom

Off to Southend tmomo but weather looking dodogy now¬! I really dont want to spend 4 days in the sealife centre!

wow Frizbe- that is excellent news!

csws- hope dd is okay

phoenix- hope results are fine

mrm- hope weather improves... it is dire atm here... enjoy Saarffend anyway

Jas- yay for bedroom! finally got mine back...and end up with one or other of them in it each night

I knew that UnquietDad wrote, but I have no idea what he writes <intrigued>

Hope she is ok CSWS

Been having hair done all morning - now no longer washed out dye colour, and has more shape to it. Nothing drastic, but just "better". Got back to discover that the short one decided he needed something off the shelf above my desk... one shelf off wall, holes in wall from where they just crumble, books everywhere... Yay.

lol, that would match where we still have no curtain rail but 2 big holes in the wall.

We still have the curtain in the lounge that can only be pulled gently at the right angle or it all falls down

Boy is on a whole room moving plan now . Oh and a catch on the outside of the door up high, which actually seems the safest way to let Babygus sleep!

Half the crap on and around my desk I won't need in a couple of weeks, so a move around does sound good. I was eyeing up a laptop table from Ikea, but then remembered that I use a proper keyboard to stop my wrists aching.

Moving what where?

jusrt random furniture in bedroom

<just remembering what a lovely coffee table you have , should it ever become unwanted in the moving>

Put dh's beloved 8track on ebay last night, as we are seriously in trouble financially and had already booked southend before this got so bad (it was for me and friend originally so I'd have only been paying half). . . its got a bid of £150 on it already and 8 watchers. I made about £80 selling some clothes of mine. but got nothing of value left to sell now

Coffee table stays with me til I die

<wonders how to cause death online>

Dont owrry, dont think its possibele. And prob not feasible to burgle you or bribe Boy

The short one strikes again eh Flame?

Hope DD is ok csws. Now you mention about the blood tests my fasting one was ok last time too

for new shop Friz

We're going to Flamingo Land tomorrow . It's like we're going away for a week with all the stuff we're taking for a day out.

What on earth is Flamingo Land? Not just what it says on the tin, surely?

Btw, forgot to do the happy dance of someone with a ds1 who has had TWO NIGHTS NO NAPPY NO ACCIDENTS Finally the peer pressure of ds2 had an effect I think!

Oh sorry, Flamingo Land

Dd rib not cracked, and she seems to be in less pain today.

Mum has breast cancer.

Great news re new store Friz.

Flamingo Land looks fun Phoenix. When you mentioned it I thought that I had been there, but don't recall ever going to North Yorkshire, so maybe not .

csws- glad to hear dd is okay. Sorry to hear about your mum- you must have a lot of conflicting emotions to deal with right now

mrm- great about DS1! What is Flame's coffee table like then?

eek for flameboy...

have a lovely day Phoenix clan

It isn't that spectacular tbh. Very solid wood. It just has "something" about it I think. It was in the first flat we rented, not on the inventory so moved with us because I was oddly in love with it. Turns out MRM is too

Poor MIl csws; we've just been in the same situation wih mil too, all clear now.

Table is lovely. Table makes me feel calm and happy. Table would look great in my front room.

not mil mrm, my mum.
Yes indeed eppm.

Oops, sorry csws, I totallty misread that somehow.

Off to wet seaside in a bit.

Great news abut shop2 Frizbe.

Very impressed with ds1 dry-nights, mrm. How was last night? Enjoy your weekend away.

Have fun at Flamingo Land Phoenix, it looks good.

csws - god news re dd. Is she feeling better?
@ your mum......Are you ok?

We are supposed to be going to the farm today, but weather looks dire, and I'm not really in the mood....

How have I failed so badly with DS? He listens to nothing. He has just tried to p*ss out of the kitchen window and got it all over the side. WHY??? I had dared to turn my back to find some washing. Why not use the f*ckin toilet like any other human being who has been out of nappies for any time at all??

As hard as I try to get the house sorted, he destroys something else.

I am tired.

I don't want to do it any more.

My mum said that with DH's week off she would help take kids away etc so we could get sorted. Week off finished today and they haven't been taken away once. If she hadn't offered then it wouldn't matter, but why offer and then not do it???

I'm at the stage of wanting a full breakdown just to escape.

Flame.

You know you haven't failed, don't you?
DS is just as bad, and I don't think I'm a bad parent, just a not-perfect one.

Sorry you've not had any support from your mum this week. I know how much worse it is when you think you'll get a break and don't, compared to just having to get on with it on your own.

A lot of this is depression talking I think. I sobbed on DH earlier that I miss my pills . I know that this is what I want to do (medication-wise) for the baby, that it is only a few weeks to get through, but it doesn't stop me being hell

DS's main problem is boredom I think. Plus he knows he can act up more because I am not in a fit state to deal with him (he has gotten much much worse since I got pregnant and was so sick).

He will have 4 sessions of preschool and a whole day of nursery in just over a week - it should occupy him and tire him! <prays>

Fancy dress party on Saturday. DH is getting very carried away and spent nearly £10 on stuff to make his scars work (going as Joker). I managed to get a maxi dress cheap, so am going as pregnant Angelina - DH is spending Saturday drawing tattoos on me

Flame, ds2, I've only discovered the other day, has been pissing in thw sink instaed of the toilet. And he's just tried to launch himself off the hotel balcony. And I'm on the hotel pc ignoring it all. So chill

Flame- you haven't failed... he is just a 3yo! pissing out of the kitchen window takes some ingenuity if you ask me wish I had a 3yo who would dare to do something like that- climbing over the head of her bed instead of getting out normally is what she considers adventurous ... it's about 15" high...

Plus he knows you are tired, and will play on that- term-time will help, definitely.

mrm- yours too? is this a boy thing, the peeing in inappropriate places? <groan>

Flame- you need some lip-cote stuff to make your lips all bee-stingy!

We went to Severn Valley Railway today, and had a lovely day- DD really enjoyed it, but even DS seemed v excited on the train

{{{Hugs}}} CSWS, tough times ahead hope you doing ok. Glad dd is ok, bet that's a relief.

Flame, dh says he's a boy and they do that unless you're on their case all the time (which is no help what so ever I know)
I'll have UQD's latest book with me when I pop down, will try n remember to bring it over with me so you can take a look

Phoenix, you made me laugh with having to post where Flamingoland is and what it is, I just assumed everyone would know tis a northern (ish in my case) thing!

MRM, well as you're not on the news I will assume ds has not made it over the balcony sorry the store's not in London yet! give me time

Waves at EPPM and Jas and anyone else whose lurking.

As you may have guessed we're off to Christchurch this week, so maybe intermittently on here, possibly whilst at Flames if she doesn't run screaming at the thought of us visiting

<<waves>> at Frizbe.

I have a spade shaped pen that I got from the severn valley railway when I was 5 or 6

No, not over balcony. Did nearly blow off the pier though.

Had to see emergency dentist yesterday, and made real appt for wed... either the tooth that broke off, or my wisdom tooth apparently. Whatever it is I'm in agony and got anti viotics. And painkillers have no effect. Not good in wind!!

Running screaming, but mainly at the state of health hazard bathroom etc....

ds2 just took the key from breakfast table, ran back to ur room, locked himself in and couldnt open it . Will be relaxing to go home today I think!!

Friz/phoenix anyone... we've got ~£20 of tescos coupons left (cashed in too mny as didnt realise adults ride free on the shitty kids rides)... do you want them? They can be used at that Flamingo Land! Or Camelot in Kettering, or a few other places I cant remember; have a look on tesco clubcard site and see what you think. Its not the ones for chessington etc, its the other ones. They are valid 6 months. Valid in Bournemouth but Flame didnt wantthhem.

Oooh mrm i'll have them if you def don't want them. I didn't have enough points to use ours cos we don't shop there anymore so don't get many points.

Email me your address and i'll bung them in the post.

You do know that Tesco will let you trade them back in don't you mrm, even if a little out of date?

Do they? I'm very suprised by that tbh. but Phoenix can havr them cos I said so plus dont forget £20 of vouchers only was £5 of clubcard anyway

We're home btw.

Just thought don't you have to use them with the clubcard you got them with iykwim. You can trade them back in if you want

No, you just hand them in.
You can have them

Btw, ds2 was tall enough for the junior rides on the Friday but was too short on the SAturday

Ok thank you, i'll see if i've got your email if not i'll do it via Facebook

Ok, I've got your facebook messagew, and have even addressed the envelope already <organised saintly face>... alth its bank hol so you wont get it for a couple of days anyway!

Dh off getting us a takeaway as a conclusion to the holiday... its tradition! There's 16 people watching the 8track I put on ebay now, so I'm hoping the bidding will go up a bit at the last minute, fingers crossed (one day left).

Hows the bidding going mrm?

Ooops, 3 days left,not one! Itscos we've been on hool, I 've got no idea of daysand times now! Its still on £150 , but surely one of those 18 watchers will want to pay a bitmore. 150 ws the reserve anyway, and better than nothing. Will pay off about a quarter of what we're over drawn every month, for this month.

I somehow completely missed reading about your mum CSWS (was thinking the faces were about the holiday issue iyswim). Hope you're doing ok.

September is far too close to October. You do know that don't you? Not helped by HangingBellyOfBabylon (local) being 4 weeks ahead of me, and she had a baby yesterday

Look how Meridian's DH made me look! here.

Right, off to box up some nappies. I have read everything and forgotten it all

bloody hell flame, I've just seen those pics. I dont look half that good and I'm supposed to be reasonably fit and healthy and def not pg

Posted vouchers phoenix... on way to dentist,,, luckily not on way back. Need tooth out as expected, 4 injectiuons all failed to numb. agony as he pulled the nerve out, and got half way through gouging out the root, ythen had to stop as too much pain. Couldnt do it. Gotta wait for an appt somewhere in Tottenham to do it under sedation, but gos knows how long . Am on mage strenth pain killres from chemist (note he didnt prescribe me anthing) but i~ cant tkae much more. Where shalli go??

I have no idea what to suggest

Out of hrs dr for prescription painkillers?

Pics are lovely Flame

DP is on his way to hosp to visit fil....not expected to live much longer He has taken dd1 with him.

oh no Jas. Did dd2 not want to go, or you think she's a bit little? Just curious.

Am in the semi jhappy land of major drugs Dh got me an emerganct prescription from the hgospital last night. They last about 4 hours but I can only take them every 6 . He's taken today off but gone to the gym , gonna get him to call dentist when back (I cant talk properly!) nand see if they can hurry the referal as I 'm so scared of running out o teblets before the appt comes through. And also i dont reallt like to live off drugs.

No, more the practicalities of the 2 seater van to get to the hospital!
DD1 is a bit teary, dd2 is not apparently bothered at all.
He is no worse today, and dp wants to take ds tomorrow (won't stay long. He hates hospitals and I think he is partly glad of the children as an excuse not to stay very long)

Back to school today

No nursery for anther week though,.

I hope you get your tooth sorted soon (my recmmendation would be t suffer for 8 hours during the day so you can take the pain killers 4 hourly at night! Depends what they are if this is safe though.)

Good plan if I thought I could sufefer for 8 hours with two kids at large!

Juat been asleep for 3 hours; they really knock me out; slighlty worried how that will work with dh back to work tomo.

When does school/ nursery start?

School Monday, nursery THursday.

Sorry to hear about fil Jas.

And ouch for teeth mrm.

Thanks Mrm, the vouchers came today . Hope you get your teeth sorted sooner rather than later.

Sorry to hear about FIL Jas and your mum csws (sorry i didn't say that before )

Ds1 is back at pre school on Monday. I can't wait cos he's really testing my patience lately. He's going for 4 mornings instead of 2 but only mon, tue, thurs next week cos we go to Cornwall for a week on Fri, can't wait.

Ds2 has got his 1st lot of jabs on Monday. I can't believe he is 8wk old tomorrow .

Jas- v sorry to hear about FIL

mrm- hope mouth is being sorted.

DD went back yesterday- she was so excited... she has missed it a lot.

Phoenix NO! that is not possible!

How? I love that photo of him grinning btw- just gorgeous

Still drugged up, but I left an hour before the min time for next dose, and it wasnt overly unbearable this time. She says hopefully. Really looking forawrd to dh getting home at 7 tho, I must admit.

cornwall

That reminds mt phoenix, must rebook ds2's appt for boosters now his spots have gone! Someone remind me please.

Actually had a night without taking painkillers half way through Back to the 'normal' tooth pain rather than the trauma of the failed injections type pain, thank god. Just hangig on for my rreferral now. Dh reckons I shouldnt do the Hyde Park 5km tomo tho, but i love that one, I always do it, even my biopsy didnt stop me last year. I just donrt know what to do. I'm very unfit after 2 eeeks off exercise, but I could jog it at least.

The ebay thing ended last night... dh got £241 . Thats gonna pay for ds1's school dinners this term (£70) and maintenence fund (£80) and make our overdraft this month a bit smaller! Oh and I got a National Geographic projector for ds1's birthday, less han half price in Argos; £10.36. He's going to love it! Ds2 will be giving him a British Museum Ancient Eygpt stamper kit thing that I got brand new in the charity shop for £3.50 , and we have a few chhose-your-own-adventure type books for him from book People (pac kof 10 but splitting so some for friends for xmas too).

And did you see that boots thread; pricing error on Office website... £125 boots going for £43 inc postage. I've ordered some cos my Mum says I can have them as my xmas present Just gotta hope they honour he price now!!

Don't forget to book ds2s jabs, mrm

I did it! I did this years Hyde Park 5km with an achinh face, dosed up to the eyeballs and full of coffee to counter the sleepiness from the drugs. I brgan bleeding at about 3.5km so walked for 2 mins, but still managed to do ir in exectly 30mins Quite pleeased with myself . And boys happy... park, picnic, nat hist museum afer!

Well done you mad woman, you!

But did you book ds2s injections?

you are insane.... you know that right?????

Et, not quite Jas, but I have thought about it! Will pop in and do it tomo I think.

Got my appt for the 'emergency' dental thing.... 5th October . I think I might have to see if there's another option.

Well don't say I didn't remind you....

Other option will be £££
My friends ds needed a tooth pulled and she had to pay £100+ or make him wait a month

5th October?!?!?!

I am a tad concerned... I feel weird. The kind of weird I felt the night before I went into labour with DD.

Thinking hot bath and doing NOTHING is a wise move!

When are you due?
An early one would be nice (assuming you aren't due in November)

5 weeks to go? Maybe a bit of a rest would be good

Yup, 5 1/2 weeks, so still a leeeeetle too early for my liking. DH is now on child duty whilst I stay still

But Jas, I'm paying for this anyway; no NHs here.

oops

N NHS....she got her ds seen the next day when paying, so a month wait is definitely excessive!

Was that with sedation?
I think he's just refering me there cos they have some kind of arrangement, but I'm a naturally suspicious person!

You need to get pregnant mrm, then your dentistry would be free . Well done on run.

Sending calming 'do nothing' vibes flame.

Dd's pre-school booster tomorrow.

I could go with Falme and ptetend we are one person
Er, yeah, get pg...
1.Dh is snipped
2.I dont like kids
3.Kids cost more over all
4.You cant get most of the stuff doner whilst pg that I need doing anyway, so I couldnt take advantage

See if Flame had had her baby you could pretend to be her and have it done free......

poss not wrth 5 weeks early though.

Yes it was in hospital under GA, as non- co-operative 6 yr old. Only difference by paying was waiting time - same hospital, same drs, same treatment.

I have an orthodontist appt for dd1 this week - we will see if her teeth are going to be bad enough to qualify for free treatment.

csws - I saw you being quoted as a "wise old bird" on a thread today

Whats the chances of combining dd1's appt with my needs<desperatey clutches at straws>?

Not sure an orthodontist would do you much good tbh.

MRM - go on the I'm not a slut or whore thread and back the woman with the pole up (obv leave out that you clearly are a slut and a whore^ <ducks>)

Link pls,cant be arsed looking.

grrr

Lol, I found it on active before I came and saw your link love you tho

Was it a current thread Jas, or an old one? (link if current please as search not finding it!)

Lol at slutty pants advising on poles - might go nose at thread.

Jealousy is a terrible thing csws

Someone was mourning the lack of you on a thread the other day too CSWS (and they told on you for going to The Other Place )

Just guessing I'm sure. Everyone who isn't on as much gets accused these days.
I never search for posts about myself, but maybe I should start.

At least I'd search if my 'advanced search' button hadn't disappeared

Found it, and the guilty party is from this thread.

<mrm feels guilty even though she's fairly certain she hasnt said anything about csws of any sort>

No, not you mrm.

THats a relief. Why is it I always assume guilt? Spill the beans then, who was mean and what 4exactly did they say? <witch hunt>

It was a nice quote on a pregnancy thread (Lissie) I think it is the wise old bird description that caused the face! It made me a bit as I thought it was probably the same Teuch from here.....

I'm sorry- it was me , but I had no idea it was a secret
It has been discussed openly on m oldie threads (VVVQV was most recent one here).
I've asked MNHQ to delete my post csws. It certainly wasn't meant in a mean manner, mrm.

What was you?

It is the same teuch Jas. I have no objection to being called a wise old bird .

Don't worry about it eppm. I know that it wasn't meant meanly at all. I did say when you guys were all here that I wasn't making it common knowledge, but you were in a post-birth fug, so I'll let you off . I'm familiar with vvv's comment, but it doesn't actually say that I am.

And obviously I'm not really .

Went to collect DD from school, and she had decided to take herself to gym club. I had told her last night and this morning that she wasn't going today (I know she heard as she argued the toss). Got there just as she was going in and knew it would be more stress than it was worth to drag her back out. Means I didn't get anything done in the last 2 hours as I had to sit there (I didn't have the energy to piss about driving home and back, unloading DS etc). She is trying to say I never told her not to go, and yet when I tried to get her back she said "But I wanted to go". Grrrrrrr

I'd try and tell the teacher as well as her next time, so she doesn't get the opportunity to get changed, I think.
I don't think mine would dare try it though....they know I would go in and get them out!

CSWS - Not keen on old bird as a description myself. That is why I noticed it.
I've never really taken any interest in the whole Mouldie thing. Don't look at the threads r even think about it tbh.

Are you feeling ok today Flame (apart from child-induced stress)?

Yup, much more normal again.

Turns out threatening to cut off DS's manhood is much more scary when you inadvertently have scissors in your hands at the time

I only decided after school yesterday about gym, and there is no way to see the teacher in the morning (without going inside, upstairs, and dragging DS at the same time). DD is sensible enough to be trusted to remember. Just wilful enough to ignore me

at scissors. Feeling a bit hormonal then?

DD1 has to apply for senior school in less than 6 weeks We only really have one choice so I'm trying to do my best to make it sound a positive thing for her, whilst losing sleep over it...

she can't be old enough for that!!! I've seen some crappy schools round here turn out great kids, it will be fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine

Although saying that... we all have to apply for proper school soon don't we?!!?

Slightly hormonal and just want the git to SLEEP at night (he keeps using wee as a stalling tactic).

Lol jas; I ignore 99% of mn and come on here totaly blinkered, so not being up to date with the mouldies thing is nothing!
You know, I have a friend who got a plasce at a 'good' school and felt so uncomfortable with it that she turned it down in favour of a 'bad' school, very happy, kid very happy,. I know its not alwys like that, but you never know how things'll tun our.

Flame, I could quite happily massacre both boys, so dont think you're alone! ds1 refusing to go to bed dtill and then tired in morning, says he hates year one is is never going back. ds2 has learnt to be not tired and refuse to go to bed, so that cuts into ds1's homework time

I've already applied for Ds1's school place. I did it online last week. I got the application form through the post yesterday. We've got 3 schools in our village, 1 is very near in walking distance. The other 2 are still probably in walking distance but quite a lot further than the other. I've applied for - 1. The nearest one, 2. A brand new built school, 3. The one in a bit of a rough area but school has good reports. Would prefer choice 1 or 2

Mouldie stuff is completely over my head too. Couldn't care less

They cant be that far away if its a village lol.

now, I know I've done the school interest applications, but you know when you start doubting yourself in a panic?! And the LEA form I think is Oct/Nov iirc. I'm just hoping ds2 gets a place through sibling criteria,. altho it doesnt always happen. I cant face th thought of 2 kids in 2 diff achools. Esp as the other one is not as goos as our one. Should be ok, but I keep remembering ds1; remeber he was thr onmly nursery child that didnt get in to our school, and he only got a last mu=in place when someone else didnt do their form correctly..

We should be ok for school. Something to do with a baby boom in 2006 means that they are having to go up to 3 classes a year in some schools in the area - ours is one of those, and where they still do both location and sibling preference, it should all work out. Would be less good if we were staying as one of the smaller schools.

DS should get a sibling place as dd2 will still be at the junior school when he starts. We can't apply for a few more weeks yet though.

I'm feeling slightly better about dd1s school options today....the only other school she has a reasonable chance of getting into (better reputation, exam results high enough to keep it off special measures, but a bus ride away, which we would have to pay for) has got lower exam results than our local one this year!

DS is also a non-sleeping boy. Up til 10 most nights recently, and waking early with odd dreams.

DS is currently completely dandruff free... used up an entire bottle of head and shoulders (why exactly DH didn't put it away before putting him in the bath, I have no idea), cried lots when his eyes stung and then at having to have 10,0000000 bubbles washed out.

Just picked DD up from first session of Rainbows - she loved it

lol, ds2 got through a good half a bottle of christian dior aftershave this morning. Dh doesnt know yet. It was a xmas present from a friend and he 'saves it for best'

I was pleased - DS was very generous with his use of this hideous aftershave of DH's a while back (It smells like old men)

Ds1 came home from pre school on monday with soap in his hair. He told the staff he'd done it because his hair was stuck up

I used dh's v stinky aftersave to put down thew tpoilet after the boys had done horrible poos once

I remember collecting DS from nursery and them informing me that he was in different clothes from where he had decided to wash his hair in the sinks.... and the hair of 2 other children

Do you remeber when I took ds1 for a look round a prospective nursery, and another child painted the ENTIRE FRONT of ds1 with orange paint?! Cornerred him and did it in the blink of an eye virtually

lol at all of your horror stories.

mrm - how much roughly would a used original grobag go for at a car boot sale? Just trying to work out whether it's worth ebaying them or not.

Depends were really. Swanley Bar... £3? Edgware...£1.50?

Ah, might as well chance ebay then. Thanks.

Ello you lot what have I missed out on then, since my little trip south?

All good here, have skip read the last few posts, guess I'd better go apply for school then and pray dd2 gets into the same one as dd1 be fun if she doesn't eh.....mind you we have a friend of ours teaching reception at my 2nd choice, so that could be fun at all your horror stories too, am being thankful we've not had any orange paint horror stories lately. Though do you remember the time I was BF dd2, whilst the Manhattan Toy rep was round and dd1 fell down our two steps from the decking and trashed her face, oh boy that was fun 'picture friz attempting to run across room with baby on boob and maintain modesty, whilst rescuing bloody and whimpering dd1...)well I saw the rep today for the 1st time in ages, and we both had a good laugh about it (dd1 did ok out of it too, she got a free groovy girl to make herself feel better!)

ooh see you posted whilst I was doing stuff!
I ebayed our grobags and did quite well on them, so defo a vote for ebay here loads of people asked if the thermometers came with them too, so be prepared.

The thermometeres?! Jeez.
ebay will get you more omney, but omg its such a hassle these days; too many stupid new rules and charges. I hate that new thing that the most you can charge for postage on books is 2.75 even if the books weigh a ton. And you cant leave neg feedback for a buyer even if they were a nightmare.

Oh yeah, I did mean to say hello Friz

Hello friz.

Can those of you with boys suggest ideal 1st birthday presents for one please?

God, I cant remeber either of them being 1
Erm, I think ds1 had those tomy quack-a-long ducks. ds2 still loves his scuttlebug even now its way too small for him, and and those red plsatic motorbikes from elc are a good 'in advance' thing. Playdough? Chunky garage; basically anything you can shove wheeled things in and out of, th more ramps and doors the better.

Anything bashable.

Doing happy dance here. Gas bill going down by £18 a month - and it is accurate n everything!

Ooh and I bought a bump band so I am not falling out of my top any more. Best £5 I have spent in ages!

How have you managed to get it down?

Think I recall an ?elc thing with 3 chunky vehicles and 3 places to shove them in order to make a noise. RThat was a popular one.

They were charging me an extortionate amount all last year, it had to come down really!

Our gas and electricity have both gone up by a long way as they were charging us a stupidly low amount since we changed to them.

We had that before - another reason for the drop as we had been on repayment mode.

Offering stuff on freecycle "when would be the best time to come and have a look?" Erm, no, take the crap away, look and then do what you want with it. I'm not a bloody jumble sale!

We got through 4 days. Day 5 we're back to the whinging argumentative morning brat.

What you giving away? <pikey face who hopes its nothing I want!>

This would be too grown up for a 1 yr old wouldn't it?

Thinking of maybe something like this

First one much more attractive, second one more age appropriete (not that it matters getting thigs erly, but it just scuppers their appreciation of the next birthday iyswim!). But omg £75 on one garage???

But it's lush isn't it?! Maybe next year. Watching a used mega bloks table on ebay now.

Combine your ideas by getting a plastic garage? Whizz around mountain thing elc? The elc wooden garages nice too. While you're looking, keep your eyes ouyr for a wooden zoo that doesnt cost the earth? ds1 eallt really wants one for some reason! Its got to have a moonkey cage tho

this is ok

Or the little tikes road to rail set? ds1 loved that, its got tunnels etc. The only thing is that they tend to break up the track and want you to reassemble it. Every two minutes. Superglue.

Or the little people noah's ark lasted a long time in interest terms.

Nothing you want unless you now have a school aged girl, or are planning on getting knocked up again

Well, ds1 thinks he might like to be a model now but that doesnt make him a girl! And yuck yuck no more babies ever thank you...

Didn't your boys have a sodor island too mrm? Not that he's seen Thomas yet, but he might do if he ever gets to take over the tv from dd.

Yep, ds2 had it for xmas off freecycle remember? Tbh, he prefered the wooden traintrack. In fact, they both still play with that alot.

No much good with young boy toys CSWS, sorry, can say that the dd's have been playing with some puzzibits from Manhattan Toy rep today and are loving them www.puzzibits.com/

Having a small family crisis here today, which I appear to have been lomped with over the weekend, not too happy about that.
Short story is my nan (95) walked into her local police stn this am, claiming that my Auntie has been kidnapped (she's on holiday, which my nan should be aware of) thus my dad had to go and retrieve her whilst assuring police he wasn't telling lies. Meanwhile my auntie has left no contact numbers, I can't get hold of any cousins and my parents go away for 3 days tomorrow, so guess who gets the job of granny sitting Gran refused to go and see Dr/Social Services this afternoon, so we have to wait until next week, when they'll come to her...she's also seeing dirt everywhere, which we think is her cateracts getting worse (dr's won't operate she's too old) and is thinking people are going into her house as well looks like I'm in for a fun weekend......

How's it going Frizbe - anyone else been kidnapped?

I have spent the day attempting to sort my pit bedroom. I think it does actually now look worse than when I started, but have sorted all the nappies so we have a pile of newborns ready, done loads of washing and sending of stuff to charity shops (again - none any good to you MRM so stop looking all mournful ). Still soooooooo much to do, but sooooooooooo tired!

Now thinking of this.

That looks good

That does look god csws. DS still pays with something similar to that when we are out, so it may have a long life, too.

I hope all is quiet with the granny-sitting today Frizbe.

fil is apparently getting better - he is now able to speak (was so breathless he couldn't for a few days) but not willing to try and get out of bed DP is losing patience with him He's said things I've thought but never voiced before in the last few days.

I've lost motivation to do anything around the house at the moment - now I've got a bedroom, I am just enjoying the space rather than doing anything to it for a while.

I've had to clamp the gate shut on ds' door. He can now open all types of gate, but will not stay in his room/bed if he can get out, and I just get cross after putting him back 20 times so he is locked in (and went straight to sleep).

Ours is tied up until they fall asleep every night Jas. Gave up a good 12 months ago trying to keep him in there.

for DH and FIL issues

DP even

Well that's an unexpected recovery for fil Jas. Should I be hoping for a full recovery or not?

Sorry friz - was wrapped up in present searching earlier so didn't comment on your post. Hope the day with your nan hasn't been too draining.

He just didn't try and open it for ages, but the day after I made dp drill holes in a rather nice wooden door frame to fit it to the new bedroom, he just opened it and it has been awful since then trying to find a way to keep it shut, but let dd2 get in still.

Difficult to say, csws. I don't think so, but who knows how long he will hang on for.....

Lol at you tying your kids into their rooms... I think I might have to tie ds2 to ds1 when we're out Driving me inasne with this running off phase. I know its not funny friz, but I couldnt help a snigger at the scenario in the police station!

So, today we went to kids club at Odean... Bedtime Stories.. I really enjoyed it! £9 for all 3 of us to get in, including a snack bag for the boys each (drink, popcorn, choc or raisins). Not bad given the normal cimema price thesedays <sounding like old woman>

Then been v good this pm; done clay models and 3d pictures

csws, ds2 found something called Retro Robot in elc today and he loved it, might be worth you consifering. Also interesting that they both played alot with that whizz around garage (in pink mind you). Then ds1 gave everynoe e erndition of his own composition on keyboard, called 'I am professor poopypants'

DH took them to see that yesterday

did he like it?
ds1 wanrs a bloody hamster now cos there was a guinea pig in it

He seemed to - said it was typical Sandler by child oriented. They both seemed quite taken with the hamster/guinea pig too.

Was Dude's first time in the cinema. Toy story 3D is out in a few weeks - I just hope I'm capable of taking him... I really wanna see the awe of him and Woody on big screen

Because the guinea pig had huge eyes, so you cant not like it!

Yeah it was twee, but compared to sitting through Bolt or Space Chimps or whatever, it was good! Not as good as Aliens in the Attic tho. Andwsa bit old for ds2 really. But he is improving vastly; only went for wee twice, and moved chairs twice!

That's the bit I hate about cinemas with two kids, always at the loo, mainly with dd2, mind you she was good during HSM which was the last thing we took her to see, so might try her again soon.....

Jas, sorry to hear about partners dad....its a toughie.

CSWS like the link, looks good

Granny wasn't too bad to look after actually, its her sight going that's bothering her the most and its getting her upset, but her short term memory is defo on the blink/way out now too, we sat and did a load of cards for peoples birthdays this week,(she had them all out ready for me to help her with) whilst dh and the kids played in the garden, then took her to the shops and posted them n got some food in for us/her. I rang my auntie yesterday, when she got back and filled her in (my message for my cousin had gone to her ansa tel, as he's not told his work his own home no ) so with that and my dad on there she knew there was a spot of bother! The first thing she said was that nan had already done the cards with her week before too! so everyone is getting double cards this year possibly for the last time? as I'm not sure she'll survive a move? we'll see, Auntie n Dad can sort it out this week, but she sure can't stay on her own.... she's nearly 96 though, so has done very well so far.

fil died this morning

Jas

gosh jas that wasn't very in keeping with the recovery that he was making. Condolences to your family.

Jas- I'm very sorry to hear that.

Jas, sorry to hear that too.

Thanks all. I think the recovery was a perk-up-to-say-goodbye type thing.

I now have a funeral to arrange, and dps family to deal with, in addition to very tearful dds and an angry dp.....

Why angry dp Jas?

He had an unusual relationship with his dad, and I think it is a grief reaction.

Added to the fact that his sister has not offered to help pay for the funeral after fil virtually cleared all his bank accounts over the past few months, and left nothing, not even a will.

Has something happened to mn? It looks like the entire thread is in bold....or is it my computer?

Ok. Not just me....all pn and single parent threads.

Well, I'm feeling slightly calmer....have given dp and his sister a few funeral options t consider. I am going out with ds for the day tomrrow, so will see what they want when I get back.
I'll be an expert at this by the end of the week.

My parents were burgled yesterday. Just as well n one is sick!

Oooh - I got vouchers for a day at a spa for my birthday, including a treatment and lunch....for two Just what I need right now.

When's your birthday Jas? Which spa? How excellent! I'm going for my massage on 17th Oct with my friend that I gave the prize to. Cant wait! An hour madsage then a cream tea.

This bold is all v irksome.

It was her 40th a couple of days ago mrm - you really should check facebook more often!

Yay for spa.
for burglary.

Oooh. I saw a thread complaining about boldness last night, and mine were fine then

I quite like it.

Warning to everyone - I have entered the evil bitch "get it out of me NOW" stage (yes, I know... how can I differentiate between that and the rest of pregnancy? ).

<<pokes head round corner>>

I've just completed BabyDragon's primary school application

<<skips out in anticipation of Sept 2010>>

Jas! Happy belated birthday
Sorry about parents though.

<skips with Soupdragon having done the same thing>

Are we supposed to be applying now? Don't we get sent a form?

Do you apply csws? or is this a 'just in case' place? was wondering about that myself... we don't get the stuff until october though

We're sending her to the village state school EPPM, so yes, we do need to apply.

Sorry if this posts loads of times i'm on my phone (from Cornwall). I applied for ds1's school place online on sept 1st. I didn't get the letter and form til the middle of last week but i could do it online without it. for those lo's starting in sept '10, ds won't start til jan '11 here. Sorry to hear about fil jas

Sorry if this posts loads of times i'm on my phone (from Cornwall). I applied for ds1's school place online on sept 1st. I didn't get the letter and form til the middle of last week but i could do it online without it. for those lo's starting in sept '10, ds won't start til jan '11 here. Sorry to hear about fil jas

Sorry if this posts loads of times i'm on my phone (from Cornwall). I applied for ds1's school place online on sept 1st. I didn't get the letter and form til the middle of last week but i could do it online without it. for those lo's starting in sept '10, ds won't start til jan '11 here. Sorry to hear about fil jas

@ multiple posting Phoenix....hope you are having a good time.

We will get forms (with a ref no to apply online, but it varies by county csws.)at the end of Sep for school applications. Can't do it before October here. Check your cc web site for dates if you are worried they might have missed you.

For csws, from (I think) your county website....

"In November 2009 a letter will be sent to all parents/carers who have been identified as having children of the appropriate age, inviting them to apply for a primary school place online or to request a booklet from our Customer Service Centre (CSC). If parents/carers have not received the letter by the end of November they should contact the CSC on 0300 123 4043 to request a booklet.

You will be able to apply from 16 November 2009 and the application deadline is 29 January 2010. We recommend that you apply online.
"

Hope you're having a good holiday Phoenix!

Is the thread bold on your phone????

csws- sorry, hadn't realised there had been a change of plan...is this due to the downturn, or was the school not what you expected?

Should I apply for a state school place for dd do you think?
Does this mean I have to do open days etc?
Have you done open days Phoenix... surely there haven't been any yet? (am not asking Jas/mrm, as I'm assuming theirs are going to the older childrens' schools)

Under what circs would you not send dd t a state school EPPM? TBH if you are confident in your current choice and circs, I wouldn't bother.
Infant schools don't seem t have open days like the seniors do (here at least)....you can contact the local schools direct and ask for info/guided tour. You also have slightly longer to apply (I have to have applied for dd1 by end October).

I am crossing everything that ds will get in as a sibling as they aren't in our catchment school, and I really don't want to have him at the school on the main rad in the opposite direction to the dds.

Thanks Jas (N Herts I assume). I haven't heard from any of my friends that they've had letters yet, so I'd assumed that it wasn't just a case of me being overlooked.

EPPM - dh now had no work for 8 months, which is the main reason, but also feel it might be a bit unfair on ds to have to spend an hour in the car twice a day doing the school run. We'll see how she gets on in village, and consider moving them both to the private one (which we adore!) when ds is school aged, if work is good for dh.

Herts, can't remember a N. Not hard to find and check at some point though.

CSWS - Save your money for secondary school....

Jas- I suppose I am worried in case she would have to leave her current school, and places being what they are round here, then she would be without a school place, possibly for a very long time (I know of children being offered schools 3 miles away- unbelievable in a city with 300 primary schools )

School run is a nightmare though... and I feel so guilty about DS being in the car for 2.5 hours a day so I'm with you on that one csws

Unless you are going to move her in September, that could be a problem at any time though.

Why not phone round, look, apply and then refuse the place when offered if you don't need it. You may discover the perfect local state infant, love it and be offered a place....

<jas wanders off into fantasy world where there is no war, and all children go to lovely schools they can walk to....>

Well we would need to 'get religion' for that... so not very likely! (the walking bit)

Oh I cant wait til ds2 can manage the whole walk to school. We;;, he can do the distance, but not without zso many distractions that it takes about an hour

He's learnt a new fave expression... 'I dont want to', said in voice that implies this is a valid reason for nything and everything.

Lesson learnt yesterday... if you've onlt done one 5km run in about 3 weeks dues to hold and teeth probs, donr be suprised when a 5km run and 3 hours of aerbobic classes on one day is hard !

Because the rest of the time its just not hard at all....

Its nver hard enough to make me want o give up and go for a steam instead!

Guess what we're doing? Making xmas cards

What happens if we do bold on here?

oh... nothing

Ooh bold is gone.

Stepmum is getting a new harley, and has been fiddling with dad's status saying how he loves her and wants her to have x one. I left a comment saying did he also love me and want me to have new things. She has replied saying no to buying new things, I am getting a new baby . It started out jokey, but knowing they spend a small fortune on my step sisters etc, that has hurt .

Why can I never just accept the situation with them and move on?

Now when you said new bike, I thought push bike, not a HARLEY tight gits for not spending owt on you {{hugs}}

Can't apply till end of Oct for school here, which is a shame as I went away all fired up to do it!

Jas, sorry you having to sort all the funeral stuff out n {{{hugs}}} Happy Belated Birthday, sorry I don't keep up much with facebook

EPPM no open days here, but you can call school to look around.

MRM at you being so tired after a mere 3 classes and a 5k run, I'll just sit down with a cup of tea and contemplate that for a minute

Waves at CSWS and Phoenix, hope you're both good

Dd1's school is lovely so I'm hoping dd2 can get in, its only infants, they then have to move upto the junior, but it's a great start for them. That been said local ejjit kids (teenage and bored) have been vandilising it this week, apparently the head caught them in the act last night and managed to see them off, but this week alone they've broken the kids play train (specially built in the playground) and burnt the gazeebo down, and the place is overlooked by houses as well

Oh dooo lally gran update, she rang my mum this am all worried as my auntie hadn't arrived back at home last night, mum pointed out that she'd taken auntie home, that she doesn't live with my nan anymore and hasn't for about 40 years tis not a good sign is it....they managed to get her into Dr's yesterday and they're making an appt to get her assessed......

Frizbe - Has gran been getting slowly more confused and you've noticed more now because aunt was away or is it a recent change?
If it at all sudden, make sure gp rules out infections etc, as things like utis often cause confusion and memory loss in elderly people and are easily treated.

Flame Try and let it go...you can't make other people into something they aren't. Even family. You have your own lovely family to concentrate on now. Take care.

Ooh yes - things like very bad wee infections can cause severe confusion.

The dad thing always comes back to the same - if he paid my DC half the attention he does the others, things like spending money wouldn't be an issue.

I am exhausted. Woke up at 2.45am feeling very sick with stomach and back ache. Had nice irregular aches for most of the night (plus the feeling sick), so sod all sleep. Now just left with feeling sick from tiredness.

I won a comp!!! £100 voucher for frugi (the cut 4 cloth people) A prize I actually NEED!

Yay - perfect flame!

f#lame, thats brilliant! I'm chuffed for you

So, poll please.... do I or dont I do the 10km run I'm entered for tomo?

In favour... I want to get my medal and goody bag, I like runs, I'll feel very bad if I miss out, I've never done this course before, there's a great playarea for the kids so it'll be a day out,I also think its good for them to see me exercising in a role-model kinda thing, and I know I'll make it round eventually.

Against...I'm not fit and well out of training (only done 2 runs and 3 classes in about 3 weeks) so I'll be slow and possibly even have to walk parts , a 10km is much harder than a 5km and the people that enter are of a higher ability in general, my temporary filling fell out today so I'm kind of expecting pain at some point again, its a very hilly course, and its 2 laps of 5km so a bit demoralising second time round.

Yay Flame. Perfect timing.

mrm- no.

I'm doing it.

Nutter

I knew you would. I was surprised you even asked an opinion.
I hope it goes ok

Well I wasnt at all sure I would!
So. Done it. Very badly . Wasnt even the tooth, was just the fact that I havent been training . I finished it of course, but bloody 1hr 5 mins . Thats at least 6 mins too slow for an ok time, not even a good time. It was nice to see ds1 on the top of the climbing frame waving though!

And all that effoert for no goodie bag All we got was a schoo lbar and a medal and water. Raking through the freebies is half the fun of races!

ANyway, I saw an ad for another 10km in November, so I 'm going to look it up and see if that might br a god incentive. Rainforests. There's a 1km for kids, but ds1 not sure he wants to do it.

We hired a rowing boat for half hour after; boys loved it

No goody bag?!!?!? That's crap

No goody bag is seriously crap good on your for doing it though, hope you don't ache too much tomorrow. Go for the next one, you know you like doing them I've not rowed in ages, its good fun eh

Jas, how's things?

Flame, {{Hugs}} for the feeling sick, n sorry for the sideways bubba again, get on all fours for the evening me dears, see if the little nutmeg goes the right way up for coming out again.

So, what's everyone else upto this weekend?

me, I had a row with my dad today, as he's in ostritch mode regarding his mum, who was found wondering around her neighbourhood very early this am and the chap who thankfully was an older gentleman himself and nice, took her home, to a house that was left wide open, all windows and door and table set for dinner for 4.... she's been admitted to hospital tonight and good advice from Jas, as she has been diagnosed with a water infection but unfortunatley they also think its something else too, as it has come on relatively suddenly, she's not even recognising my auntie and uncle at the moment.....(possible its the cancer, have feeling that's what they're checking) but anyway she's in good hands now.....hope my dad has gone into see her (mum was trying to drag him there, as she doesn't want his sister to have to deal with it all herself etc) gah families eh!

Frizbe - I hope the hospital can help your gran. At least she will be safe in hospital while they find out what is causing it.

I didn't know you were supposed to get a goody bag when you did a race. Obviously not done it myself.

Well I was supposed to be getting a coffin delivered to the house today. It didn't come. I really hope there isn't a problem. I've arranged the entire thing for Wednesday (I eventually found a funeral director willing to give me the advice and guidance to do it all ourselves) but no coffin would be a major problem, and nothing I can do abut it now til Monday.

DP is stressed (won't admit it, claims it is all physical and unrelated to his dad) and irritable. DD2 is 9 on Friday, so I'm also organising the party we had already sent the invites out for, too.

I do try not to wish away the days, normally, but I just want next week over with tbh.

Ooooh {{{{{Big Hugs}}}}}}} Jas, you've taken on a lot getting it all sorted out yourselves (but can understand why for cost) If its the big coffin manufacturers in Nottm you've ordered from, let me know, as uncle works there and can chase them up.

Hospital have said gran won't be going back to her own home, this much they do know for gran, but its what she needs. They're observing her for a few days and waiting on results, are particularly interested in her skin cancer it seems.....

for gran Friz, but that she's in the best place for her for the time being.

Sorry that you have such a lot on your plate again at the moment Jas. Is there anything that we can do to help?

Also knew you'd run mrm. I didn't know that you got goodie bags either, but sorry that you didn't this time. Still sounds bloody fast to me!

Had lovely weekend here with another mumsnetter and her family visiting. Dd actually managed her first sleepover where the guest didn't have to move to another room in order for them to get to sleep!

OMG Jas, what on earth you goonnna do if no coffin appears? Well done for sorting things out though. My Mum sent me a cut-out from a magazine costing out funerals just so I know for hers . Ok some things you can do nothing about, but they'd listed £350 for butties afterwards . Somehow I think our budgetr will be slightly smaller when the time comes.

I've got boxing thisafrenoon, and I'm so achy from classes yest, cos of bring unfit now after time off. Never taking that long off again not sure what to do when tooth gfets done.

Huge relief....coffin is here, and dp has arranged a second non-flappy man to go to the hospital and collect his dad on Wed.

mrm, we are only paying for the things we are legally obliged to do, and it will cost £800.
Which means dp can go out and buy a few rounds on his dad for anyone who wants afterwards, instead of us having to borrow the money to pay for it from my parents.

How's your gran doing now Friz? Hoping treatment is making her a bit more lucid if nothing else.

Jas - you're going through so much, and there is sod all I can do My mum set up her whole funeral (and paid for it) a couple of years back, me, my sister, and my dad have a card with a number on to call and they just take over apparently. Boy's family will be a very different story.

When your tooth is fixed properly MRM it will just be a couple of days (are they fixing it or just taking the thing out?) won't it? None of this lingering stuff.

I am in bitch mood from hell today. I am considering divorce just to make his life easier...

mrm- at mum... but cannot believe you went rowing straight after a run!

Friz-sorry to hear about your gran, hope she responds well to treatment though.

Jas- thank goodness coffin arrived... what a horrible situation, I hope dp is starting to come to terms with it soon.

Flame- sorry for mood... but I loved the video on your fb- seen before, but goodness, those giggles.. reminds me of csws' video of ds a few months back...

csws- glad weekend was nice... is dd actually improving on the whole sleep concept thing? mine is a little better weekdays- because she just conks out after nursery!

We are struggling with enough sleep here... teething going on... and DS learned how to screech at the top of his voice, and he LOVES to practice... wahey!

He's also slightly obsessed with the hedgehog wall sticker above dd's bed, and tries to talk to it in the middle of the night when he's feeding
Oh... and he's started growling at the windchime in the kitchen, which for some reason he is a little disturbed by- he sort of snuggles into me/dh, puts on a brave face, growls, then looks all scared and hides his face in our shoulder... odd lad!

He's gonna remeber that hedgehog forever you know. I still remeber obscure things like that.

To clarify, yes my Mum is insane, but there is a kind of logic, as she's been sending me funeral money every now and then for a couple of years (didnt want it in hr account incase it affected her benefits, although its only a grand, so not surte it would, as she only gets lowe level DSA anyway, plus pension credit).

Hurray for coffin, if thats the right thing to say. But you know what I mean

Flame, i'm sure you're not that bad. Although after 6 years, dh has finally decided to tell me what a living hell it was when I was pg, and how he almost couldnt take any more of me

Why wouldnt I go rowing after a run? It wasnt immediately anyhow, it was after a wee and kids icecream

Feeling happpier today after boxing; such a good way to let off steam But ran out of time, literally, so could only do 20min run after.

lol @ wee
I know what you mean about the hedgehog... I still remember things like stickers on my cotbed... he does love it, and is always pawing it, and trying to jabber at it... but he also 'likes' a picture we have up of dd's footprint when she was a baby... so you know, they're still fairly indiscriminate at this age!

ctually, you've just made me remeber that upstairs I have a picture me and my Mum made when I was 3 or 4... she got a bot of plywood and we painte it green and brown, then she drew a hedgehog shape on and I stuck loadfs of rug wools onto it. Er, i know that means nothing to you, but its one of the best craft things I have from my childhood . Oh and the Airfix robins-on-a-branch, ans an ashtray I made in reception

That sounds really nice

My auntie jean has had a major stroke

She was one of my gran's best friends (so that sort of "auntie" iyswim). Lovely lovely lady. When we told my gran about B, she turned round and said "well at least you're happy about it", when we told Auntie Jean she was all excited about new life, new family etc .

They have a DNR order, and it doesn't look like she will regain consciousness

Flame

She's gone

{{hugs}}

Oh Flame I'm so sorry.

Sorry flame.

Flame, I've texted you. x x

So sorry Flame.

Thank you everyone.

On a brighter note... Midwife appointment this morning - I am now 2/5 engaged and she can't see me making it to 40 weeks. I was very restrained and didn't kiss her

Flame, how long have you got left?

3 weeks tomorrow

That's gone so quick (although probably not for you)

Woohoo!
That's Full Term tomorrow then?
Hurrah! Good excuse to crack out some celebratory chocs or similar /

Ooh my midwife mate on facebook says it is more likely 2/5 palpable, so even more in than I thought

Flame for the MW and bubba being nearly ready to pop! but for the news about your 'Auntie', sorry didn't see if you tweeted 'owt yesterday as didn't have time to check the feeds....

Jas, phew for coffin turning up, hope everything went as well as could be today {{{Hugs}}}

EPPM scared of the wind chime and that's quite funny, weird what they don't take to eh!

MRM tooth? when you getting that done then?
which one is it?

CSWS for you all having a good sleepover! particularly dd

Phoenix how's things? are you back yet?

Gran is still in hospital they're still investigating....they have said its not the cancer though....?? Still waiting to sign for the new store too, gah! hoping solicitor has something for us by Friday....better do, we've recruited staff to start training 2nd week in October, we need this place up and running yesterday!

I was thinking it was Friday for some reason (not today... the funeral).

(will reply to rest in the morning, sooooooooooo tired)

I think today is funeral, friday is party for dd1 (I think that's the right dd...)

Hi Friz, yes i'm back

We've finally got our webcam up and running and dh is talking to his brother in America on Skype. He's lived there about 4yrs and it's really weird hearing him with a yorkshire accent mixed with an American one

Morning
Funeral was yesterday, and went well. It was fairly unconventional - his daughter spoke, we had a few tales of Goa from his mate, then we had some interesting music, all signed the coffin, and went to the pub.

All the stuff I had arranged went fine, dp said he looked happy when he collected him.

I was soo relieved, I was shattered, and was asleep by 9.30last night!

Party tomorrow (for dd2)so still busy, but much less stressed now.

Back later.

Signing a coffin? I like that!

That was my first thought too Flame! Glad its all done with Jas; kids party wont be that bad in comparison.

ds1 already trying to plan his birthday on November <sigh>. Same old problem; cant fit very many in the house, cant afford a soft play type party (its bloody £17.95 per head now ). Dont want to risk the weather for outdoors like we did last year, as it was good, but a bit chaotic in the dark, and the grown ups got really cold not running about! He says he might like pizza hut, which is 4.99 a head, but then I guess we still have to give the adults something if they stay, and in any case he's finding it hard to stick to 10 people, which is our limit; you know how if you invite some you have to invite others, -lus friends frmo outside school blah blah. If he has 10 plus himself and ds2, thats £60 plus grown up drinks, which is our budget limit. But will he want to play too? My friend thinks so, altho if he himslef has said he'd like pizza hut, then it should be ok. He's not stupid, he knows what he wants. Sorry... rambling

Parties are tricky MRM, I've hired the local community hall with another mum this year £26 between us, and a disco £80.00 between us, we're catering ourselves (hotdogs) n prob crisps n grapes! (shhh the frootshoot brigade will kill me) but we can squeeze loads of kids in, huzzah!

Jas, like the signing of the coffin bit, just told dh he can do that to mine, he said he'll have me stuffed instead Glad it went ok, good luck with the party tomorrow.

Flame, found the pokemon thread! am I outed now

Phoenix, skype is weird for that eh! I must try and catch my mates in NZ this weekend, as have sent birthday card, but its going to be approx 3 weeks late! ahem....

Bad news on gran front today...she was sedated last night, got up to go to loo this am and fell over.....told drs it was ok, its not, she's been in agony all day and now they won't see her, my auntie and dad are at the hosptial now arguing her case fecking hospitals......so far they're not getting anywhere, they keep ringing me, to ring my Dr friend, to find out who to ask for help next in the hierachy....

news is gran has a fractured hip, whilst on an nhs ward....sigh.....

Bravo the NHS .

Glad the funeral went well.

Happy birthday to dd2 for tomorrow .

Swimming party mrm?
Or you could borrow our marquee and have it at home!

Happy birthday dd2

did think about swimming party, think iirc right its £120 for an hour or something tho, and then they dont get fed or have anywhwere to do the cake etc.
Thak you for the marquee offer; I think you might underestimate the damage a dozen boys could do to it tho!
Its a shame his bday isnt just a bit earlier in the year, cos then we could just save all our get-in-frees and take half a dozen friends to chessington!

Why am I picturing MRM's whole house in CSWS's marquee?

Lol me too

I am oddly excited to be tip of the day

Woah, are you tip of the day? Must go and look.

"Can BabyGus's cot go in our room?" <rocks in corner with fear at that concept>

Jas- hope DD2's birthday was lovely.

Frizbe- to hear about gran... thats so crappy for her.

Flame- yay! for TOTD Any twinges yet?

Hello

Thanks, dd enjoyed her birthday. (cake pic on profile) Parties at home are getting too loud and stressful. I will have t think of something different to do soon.

Sorry to hear about your gran Frizbe. How is she now?

TOTD is still there. They love you Flame

WE had a nice lunch with dps sister today. Not seen her for 10 years before the funeral but she is planning t move back to uk now her children are both here, so we may see a bit more of her soon.

Jas that cake looks marvellous you are so talented!
Glad you had lovely lunch with dp's sister that's great.

Gran has had her hip operation today, thankfully as she was in a lot of pain, she's come out of it ok and is awake again, but that's all they can say for now. I saw her yesterday and she recognised me, so she's not gone totally potty yet she could remember all my kids names, including ss and dh too, so as far as I go, not so looney!

More bad news here though, the store got robbed last night, we think they've just taken cash, as far as we can see..... the store is ok, its the office they mainly went for, looks like the locks held on the door to the store, though it was tried, they kicked the fire exit in....our landlord is going to re-enforce the whole area and put in steel doors....hopefully they may be on cctv from the drug re hab unit that is beind us.....bit of a mess though and we're still waiting for forensics......gah.

Friz, that is really crap. Hope they find who did it

Fab cake as usual Jas

Ignoring things for a min for a quick update...

Been at funeral. Aching and random twinges most of the day, now feeling decidedly uncomfortable... taken painkillers and going to get in bath. Thinking if it carries on after that, then I should probably think about blowing up a pool and things...

Make sure you keep us informed. Hope this is it. Good Luck.

I hope so too. Keep us informed.....

Also, good luck

Frizbe - I hope they get caught. My parents were broken into last week, and it is not nice

Thanks guys, fingers x'd they don't come back, as its still only boarded up for a few days till the builders can get to us.....have backed up everything off the pc today just in case they come and take it.... CSI Ripley finally got to us today too, they got a good glove and foot print, which might be enough evidence to help them on their way to catching the right person

Flame its Braxton Hicks, don't kid yourself its anything more not until your in complete agony anyway Hope the funeral was as ok as can be

Gran is ok, in pain, but ok and she's only asked where my grandad is once! (dead 25 years now)

Ooh exciting flame. Good luck if it is the real deal.

Break in sucks Friz .

about every half hour, not desperately strong so gonna sleep and see what happens

hope you have a restful night and it kicks off in the morning

Yay for prints friz.

Down to odd random ones over night. V tired and pissed off with all the hurting yesterday for nothing.

{{{Hugs}}} Flame, you're finally getting Braxtons, you've not had em before eh? I got them a lot with dd2 and not at all with dd1

Thanks for your support over the last few days girls, you'll be pleased to hear things are finally looking up Gran is now mobile again, they've had her whizzing the ward on her zimmer for 2 hrs today she's been well away apparently they put her in bed to stop her bothering the nurses! seems more 'with it' too apparently, she might make warden aided at this rate.

Store is slowly getting back to normal too.

Jas, how's things your way?
Where are the rest of you, you're all being very quiet?

I've had braxtons during this pregnancy - not with the others. These have been that bit more iyswim, and they didn't go away with the standard bath/pills advice, they just carried on the same regularness, hence me getting hopes up.

Yay for gran

Had a huge stupid fight with DH about santa and chimneys of all bloody things. Now he has gone to work in a strop and I can't stop crying

What about santa and chimneys etc? Dont fret I very much doubt its a divorce case . Esp if you go into labour before you see him agin!!

Sorry, have read all therest, but got no glasses on so an=m reading nd typing bl9nd!

got an "impressive" from the boxing instructor last night . I was shattered though after 3 hours of classes! Boxing is hard work, so it made comabt feel like a breeze afterwards.

Yay for impressive

He has been painting a picture to go in the fireplace (instead of the big gaping hole). Kids removed said picture for Santa to be able to get out the chimney. I heard him telling them that the chimney was blocked anyway so Santa couldn't get down it . He says he was telling them he got in by magic.

I have no idea. I was yelling at him by that time.

They are 6 & 3. They believe. They are some of the few children to have an actual fireplace. WTF does he need to tell them he doesn't come down a perfectly acceptable chimney?!?!?! B asked if we couldn't just take the pic out on xmas eve (which had been my plan).

I think he may have taken offence to being treated like a child and yelled at in front of them

Not heard from him all day

Where is everyone?

ds1, the mot realist child I know, has never asked about the reality of father xmas, nor how he gets past the telly in our fireplace

I think an episode of sponge bob or something may have been to blame for the questioning tbh - it seems a fairly random thing to think of at the end of September

We have a chimney on the roof, but the opening finishes in the loft. My girls did question it.....fc comes down the chimney and then through the loft hatch of course!
It was a bit closer to Christmas though.

Is dp talking to you now Flame?

I love that it is unusual enough for you to mention 3 hrs f classes being tiring, mrm. I would be dead after 3 hrs.

Good to hear your gran is improving Frizbe. I hope she is well enough to leave hospital soon.

DS is not well...croup, or something similar. He is much better today, but Tuesday night was awful.

DP has plastered two of my bedroom walls today I may even get it finished before Christmas!

Evening ladies. Just checking in.
Ds took his first steps today. Just a couple, but it's a start.

No, he's a baby!

Awww CSWS toddling, fab

Jas, plaster yay!

Flame, Santa has a magic key here to get in the door, as we have no chimney, mind you Santa also taps into our alarm system and uses it for cctv purposes to spy on the kids and make sure they're being good (blame Peter Kay for that one)

MRM is Combat 41 good? I've not been this week due to life etc and now I can't even make tomorrows class either as we have KEYS!! for the new store to go and pick up lots of shouting at estate agents/solicitors has finally budged the prospective landlord to sign some paperwork!the full gubbins won't be sorted until monday, but we have them provisionally over the weekend to get the place cleaned up ready for stocking etc next week/week after, wooot!!!
Other news, gran is a bit mentally wobbly again poss another infection? they're checking it out.

OMG csws, he cant have done?

Hurray for your walls Jas.

Friz, 41 is great yes, except there's one track where you either start on the second not the first beat, or you miss one out, and its a pita for me who cant time things properly!! And there's less muay tai knee jumops etfc. And the insane recovery track isreally insane; lots of poncing about running knee-ups etc iykwim! 42 is out soon you know? I have to say I'm favouring boxing now though
Only did 2 classes last night; function, and then LBT, which I'be not done for ages; I love the instrubctor, and itsa good no-brainer happy jump about class So I didnt stay for third class as I wanted to leave on such a buzz! Did do 15 min crosstrainer before to warm upo.so dont feel so guilty.

Going to the 99p shop today with friend with car.. hurray Ooo, and Poundland is coming right next doorr to the gym

He is still newborn and cannot be walking. <blatantly ignores that he was a few months old before I even got pregnant>

Yay for Jas walls.

We have very carefully not mentioned Santa, and he hasn't commented on the picture rescued from the bin. Called me mid morning yesterday though (when he was finishing at 11.30 anyway) just randomly to see how I was, so clearly forgiven.

for more nutty Gran Friz.

Had backache all night, so not much in the way of sleep. Nothing in the way of baby either. A mum at school yesterday yelled "POP! POP! POP!" at my bump wtf is that all about??? It wasn't even just loud talking, it was full on shout.

He'll be 1 next weekend you know!

Yay for walls Jas.

Hope it's just a blip for your gran Friz.

CSWS 1 are you having a huge party for him? or just a quite family bash?

Flame, at woman at school, she's feeling your pain for you! glad sorted out with dh, he's probably thinking 'my wife is a hormonal looney again '

Woot just seen a trailer for Zombie Land, so going to see that!

MRM they've only just previewed 41 up here so when I eventually get there, it'll be to that, although it won't be next week either, as I have to do work stuff all week and prob the week after too, till we get the store open....

Woot we got keys today, and then we found out that we couldn't find the meters for anything.....after a ring around later on water is in the yard somewhere and we have two electric ones, both hidden in the solicitors will be going looking for them on monday! good news is an alarm system is built in, bad news is we have to pay to get it turned on and monitored....eh well, guess you have to expect these things eh! we aim to be open in two weeks, watch this space!

How can it be a year already csws? Yay! for walking though
Was actually (well, jaw on chest really) at your fb thingy the other day... what nastiness Good news re dh though!

Frizbe- sorry to hear about break in- that is just rubbish- but hope all preparations go well for new store [excited]

Flame- due date is...? 5th? ooooohhh

mrm- love the typing blind

Hi Jas- great cake as usual! Hope bedroom is finished soon

Hi Phoenix- hope your gorgeous dss are fine!

DS did his first proto-crawl today... about 2 inches- all downhill from here!

I think that saying he is walking is taking it a bit far. It was just 2 steps! But soon I'm sure.
And your ds crawling too EPPM. D must just be trying to stay one step ahead of him!

No family bash Friz, as no family around (dh's parents away and still no contact with mine). But some of my post-natal thread from here are coming to celebrate with us, which will be lovely.

Took me a moment to twig that you were on about your second shop Friz - great news.

EPPM - Mentioning stuff on FB I have missed always makes me go look....
Anther growing up baby

csws - Yay! for job
Very odd (ex) friend you have, who is obviously perfect in every way as she feels so free to criticise you

Frizbe - good news with shop, and your expanding empire.

mrm - @ poundland excitement. I am taking the dds to spend their pocket money in Claires accessories today

Due date is 16th. Have had backache since Thursday and sod all sleep because of it, but no sign of an actual child. I was tearful with just basic hormones anyway, but now I'm just pretty much broken.

Yay for keys Friz

Missed the fb thing with CSWS but assuming I am

Forgotten the other stuff

{{{{Big Hugs}}}} Flame, it will be out soon!

Jas, at the dd's in Claires

CSWS I've not seen the facebook thing either, but on your behalf as it doesn't sound good.

EPPM for the attempt at crawling from ds.

Thanks for the thanks re the store! very exciting times here.

I'm in a less arsey mood tonight

'woot' for less arsey mood am bored and tootling around threads here, wine worse.....dh has buggered off to bed, kids and cat asleep too. So my question to you all is who sleeps the most in your house? the kids, dh or the cat? it's equal dh and cat here I reckon! (makes mental note to marry someone 10 years younger at some point)

DD2 or dp....no cat!

Yay fr better mood Flame.

We did the open day at senior school. Really surprisingly positive

at your answer Jas! glad day at senior was good do you feel better about it all now? I'm dredding junior, never mind senior here (mind am still amazed that ss has had to purchase seperate 'dance' kit to his PE kit )

A little better. They have started making serious changes in the past few months, and are predicting big improvements in exam results (which have been shockingly bad for years).

DD1 will learn given half a chance, and by the time dd2 goes another two years later, even she may get pushed as much as she needs.

I may even be brave enough to fill in the application this week.

That's good news then fingers x'd they go onwards and upward from here, all schools can change just like 'that' IMO, our local senior got a new head and ended up in 'Special Measures' within a year, it was previously top rated.....so just show's what a differece a 'head' or change of attitude can make! (and boy has that head got a lot of slagging off from the teachers and the pupils.......the 6th form got the school re ofted'ed on her 2nd year, they all complained en mass and it worked)

What on fb? Will need to go look.

Just found all manner of crap when we unfolded the sofabed yuck.

SDorry, did read all but off to soft play party in a min; nice and easy as only ds1!

Dh gave dd a mobile phone with a PAYG sim card in the other week, so that we could play at phoning her but she couldn't phone out.
Only 999 calls still work, hence us getting a call back from Herts police today .

ROFL at police call, that's very funny though obviously not when you have to explain to them eh......
The cat is complaining that I'm using his head as an arm rest, the cheek of it, he stuck his head under there.....

Been to see gran today, who seems on the mend, so this is good, she's also aware that she's going into a nursing home, when room can be found for her and seems ok with this fact at the moment.

Ooops csws, guess you won't be giving her a phone again in a hurry

Glad your gran is on the mend Friz.

Any more pains Flame?

at walking and crawling babies. Mine is 12wk old now .

Good news re gran Frizbe

@ police call....dd1 did it with our house phone when very small. Very embarrassing.

Electrical fire at the gym! Just glad wasnt me evacuated from the shower

Lovely dentist toady; the sedation is set for next Monday. Eek. Great charity shop right opposite though; got a spiderman duvet cover for ds1 for £3 and BRIGHT RED jeans for ds2 for £1

Have found someone to do a joint ds1 party with, so gonna do church hall with bouncy castle, affordable between two!

Lots of good news there mrm
Particularly abut the spiderman duvet cover.

DD1 is getting a brace in a couple of weeks. We went today t get the molds made. She is having red glittery and is very excited

We had a disasterous evening out today. Supposed t be meeting dps niece, and his uncle who is visiting from NZ, for a meal. We all met (HUGE taxi fare to get there). We were the only people in the place which is never a good sign. Before we'd even got our food, the owner came to ask us t keep our children under control and at the table. They were sat at the next table, not doing anything.

It went downhill from there. We left stressed and hungry .

Where was the meal? Spill the beans!

ds1 wet hte bed last nihgt, so the duvet cover is back in the wash already!

Am now off to tescos to return 2 scooby doo lucky bags that I bought on sunday and when I got home i noticed the best before date in March 2009

Oh some "family" restaurant that doesn't actually want children there, mrm.
From the reaction to our complaints it was fairly clear the manager is a total dick and the place won't last very lng.

No one here all day?
You having a baby then, Flame?

I am trying to stop a baby from falling out through my skin. I swear the others weren't this heavy, or I had some form of muscles to hold them in before...

Going for a 12lb vaginal birth then?

ooh that sounds like fun

Dude ran off on school run - legged it round corner, right down the side of v busy main road. A lovely dad chased and caught him for me as there was no way I was fast enough.

Thats why its called a school run

Farking 'ell Flame, glad someone grabbed him for you, Dh suggests a Tasar for him might be a bit extreme though, but the break in seems to have brought that out in him
So here's lots of lovely baby come out now vibes for you, even though you have a week to go waves chocolate, crisps and a froot shoot towards the bump

Phoenix 12 weeks, where has the time gone is he rolling over yet?

MRM electrical fire, yikes! well done on the party, you've reminded me I need to invite the rest of dd1's mates, as the other mum did all the writing of the invites for the class (I printed them)

Jas, really how crap, can't believe there are still places like that out there, mind you we rarely stretch beyond Ikea or Frankie n Bennies

Hi CSWS, what you upto? how's dh's new job going?

EPPM, how's things?

Where's Dame these days, haven't seen twinny around for ages....

Don't know if you're interested but have seen Spider Man scooters that do the folding thing in Wilko today (you do have Wilko down south don't you?)

So we have a store here! completed yesterday, all hell due to break loose next week as all the stuff arrives to kit it out, due to open next Saturday, without fail, gibber! will we do it on time? yes we will! Other news is gran is still in hospital.....am hoping to visit tomorrow...will let you know how she is!

Tomorrow is a good day to have a birthday flame .

Friz - busy preparing for ds' 1st birthday tomorrow! Have a few of my other PN thread coming so that we can celebrate all the birthdays together .

Sounds like it's all go in your neck of the woods!

I hope you have a lovely day tomorrow csws

Frizbe - Well done on the shop
Thanks for the spiderman scooter info....I was planning to get my dad to take me to Wilcos today and didn't have time, so will go on Monday when ds is at nursery all day. I feel some early christmas shopping coming on

Flame - I can't catch ds when he runs and I'm not 9 months pregnant! That is why he is still in the buggy for school runs.

Friz - He's 13wk today , no rolling yet but he has all of a sudden got chunky . He's jumped from 13lb 1oz to 14lb 15.5oz in 2 weeks. He's just started not been as floppy over the last few days. for the new shop.

Hope ds has a lovely birthday csws

Oh, I love it when they get all cuddly I'm slightly scared of breaking floppy little newborns

I've just done the online school applications for ds and dd1 [nervous.....I've only put one choice for each of them)

I guess ds2's school form should be coming soon then. eek. It's going to be a nightmare if he doesnt get in. I dont want them to go to diffreent schools, and I dont want him to go to the only other one we're likely to get in to. Its not a great school, plus I have time to pick up from both but not drop off as they both start same time.

Not doing joint party noe fRiz; decided it'd actually cost more, as joint would involve whole class. so back to origianl plan of pizza hut; 16 kids plud my two, Dad paying as ds1's present. ds1 happy as long as they can have a scary fancy drss theme to scare the staff
got all the party bag bits from wholeaslers yesterday though, so nice and cheap!

And HAPPY BIRTHDAY cswsds

SIXTEEN KIDS??? why 16 at pizza hut???

Happy Birthday little CSWS

Forgotten most else. Still pregnant.

16 plus her 2
You really are mad mrm. I reckon 6-8 is the maximum I can do (without hiring a hall).

Ds managed to collide with a roundabout yesterday. He had a huge bump on his forehead. It is much smaller this morning, but with a big bruise still.

Because I cant be bothered to hire a hall.
If I hired a hall I'd end up with more kids; if we did the joint party, the other person wanted the whole class of 30, so that would be 45 withour other friends too.

Because pizza hut is easier; thats why I'm paying for a party host to deal with kids complaints There will be adults there too of course; am sking for it to be drop off cos I cant feed adults too, but my close friends will stay of course. My Dad may be paying, but I still have to keep control on the budget!

Piza Hut cheapest option...

pizza hut 4.99 a child including cake and party bags and everything.

MacD's 7.00 a child

soft play 10.00 a child basic or 15.00 with a take home toy (worth 50p)

other soft play 17.95 a child

Hall hire £20 an hour so would need 2.5hrs, plus food and game prizs and entertainment bits and bobs. Plus more party bags! We worked it out as about £120 for our half, as they wanted a bouncy castle and 45 guests.

The problem is you (or ds) have too many friends.

As they get older it is alot easier to restrict to a few close friends and do something small at home....hot dogs and a video for example.

See I have just restricted to 6 (inc DD) from the beginning...

Happy Birthday csws' ds! cannot believe it is a year already!

Happy Birthday little boy!

Well, there's 5 from out of school that are close friends. Two best friends at school, and two other close school friends. So in future I cN SEE HOW HE'LL BE CUTTING IT TO 9 and then 7, sdpo there's light at te end of the tunnel.But as Dad is paying this year, I dont minbd inviting 16!

Off to circus today (organised between 3 schools, each get a cut of ticket sales).

Has everyone deserted the thread?!
Talk to me about 2 vs 3 children please. Dh has suddenly decided that he wouldn't object to a third.

I would but that would involve the third actually getting out of my body

I'm going to be watching how you cope closely flame, as I'd guess that if we had another then it might with similar age gaps.

GET OUT BABYGUS

Was it last Friday or this Friday that you're due?

This Friday.

I am clearly a model mum for coping as it is, so I am a fine example

[g rin]


Wow- lovely news csws!



Wot no baby yet Flame?
<<strokes tummy hair>>

Three is a great idea csws

There is always someone to fight play with.

And if you hold off til ds is at nursery/school the transition from 2-3 is alot easier than 1-2

Flame, by this point in the pregnancy if you are getting through each day without committing murder, then you are doing really well.

Do random mums at school ask if you've had the baby yet? Or was that just me??

But I will be veeeeery old by then Jas! I remember you banging on about how old you were when you had ds, but I'd be even older!

There'll be no 3rd baby in this house. I think i've just about persuaded dh to get the snip. He doesn't think he should have to but i'm not doing it after i've been through 2 cs's and all the tests while ttc ds1

for your number 3 though csws. I've heard number 3 just sort of slots in no problem

It's not definite that we'll try for a 3rd ladies - just thinking about it!

Yes to random mums asking. I mean I look like I have swallowed a beach ball - do they REALLY need to ask!??!

Who wants to point and laugh at me? I decided to whack hair removal cream round bikini line and hope for the best (no mirror at that point).... I have this huge random patch of hair at the top with nothing else around it

You're quite a bit younger than me aren't you csws?

My two good friends who have had babies this year are both 40
And theirs are no 4 and 5!

(I am very glad it is not me though.)

lol Flame.

I hated it. (The asking....I did start saying "yes, but I decided I like looking like this and shoved it back up again", after a while)

You will at least avoid the equally annoying congratulations for producing not a wonderful baby, but one of a different sex, which is the only reason I could possibly have had a third.

Ah yes, I would avoid that too Jas. People thought it was great that I was expecting ds, and didn't quite know what to say when I said that we'd been hoping for another girl! Adore my boy now though!

Am 36 now Jas, so waiting til he's at pre-school would make me 38 I guess, compared to your 37 (iirc) for boy.

I was still 36 when I had him.
I thought you were younger than that!

Ah, well, I still think three is worth it, and for me. having a bigger gap meant that once the pg was over, babyhood with ds was probably easier than with dd2.

I am now sure that under fives, while not easy, are less stressful than older children. I never shouted at the girls when they were little, and could cheerfully kill them before they even make it home from school some days now.

People just look at me baffled when they ask if I want one either way (which appears to be an insane idea what with me having one of each so it "not mattering"), and I answer that I want one that doesn't climb. Or a rabbit.

Flame at your hair situation! was also at EPPM's crossing out, as read it as hairy tummy! oopse......

CSWS, no 3 cons, if its twins or triplets, you'll need a massive wagon to transport them all in. Other than that I can see no cons, particularly as the eldest is more into looking after the youngest too (works in my case, though there is a bit larger age gap ) Oh no, one more con, one less spare bedroom for your guests! (we'll all have to stay in the playhouse!)

Phoenix, awwww, cuddly baby

MRM, Pizza place sounds like it will be bonkers, but cheap, so that's always good in my book

I had dd2 in bed with me at 6am singing twinkle, twinkle, followed by grand old duke of york.....am tired, but still wired after 12.5 hrs at work, gah! Flame I think I may birth a new store at the same time you do this baby at the rate we're both going at

You 3-child people are all totally insane.

Great, so DH's company lost the contract with the hospital - they all thought it was pretty much a toss up between NHS getting it (which meant changes, but nothing major), and them... a company that has lost millions last year and is on the verge of bankruptcy won

So............. it is either stay within the same company, try and get transferred back to his old dept (but the bloke he works with overheard him saying that and asked for a job for his son (just left school) there before DH got his request in ), or move halfway across the country to a different centre (which I really don't want). Stay with the new falling apart company and hope for the best. Or try and find another job that will pay enough to support us, when this is all he has done for the last 8/9 years and he has no other qualifications

yay.

. Just because the other bloke has asked for a job for his son doesn't mean that he'd get it over your dh though.
Where in the country is the other centre that he could move to?
Presumably if he stays with new falling apart company then he is protected a little under TUPE. And if they go under then someone still needs to do the job for whoever takes over to sort out the mess, right?

Northampton, Oxford, Bristol... other places I can't remember.

I need to sit down with him and find out what exactly happens if he just stays put. (No idea what TUPE is ). To my mind if they go under, it is just going to have to be the whole contract going up thing again - they can't not have prosthetics anywhere in the area can they?!?!

The son vs DH all depends on how they value everything as far as I can see. DH they have spent money training already, he is fully qualified and can just slot right into a job, but his salary is obv more. The son will need training but will be paid less. Swings n roundabouts.

They have said they will help with moving costs if we do want to change centres, but I don't want to move. I would rather both of us out to work full time in low paid jobs than move away tbh.

I think any of the blue dots

Ah well, since Luton or Stevenage weren't on that list, I think that you should stay put near the seaside too .
TUPE is Transfer of Undertaking Protection of Employment, see here.

Thank you

Oh, m/w appointment says all is fine and ready to go, just got to wait for it to actually co-operate. Head is just as very engaged as it has been for weeks, so all the dropped/not dropped comments are as pointless as I thought as it ain't getting any lower without coming out!

Re dhs job, Flame. I hope it works out with something reliable.

DP has work tomorrow....his first job for ages. We live on tax credits and child benefit

Flame - we are looking to restart the Second Chapter.....are you interested?
Also, EPPM, would you ask Janeite please?

Thanks.

Maybe it means its time for him to work as a sculptor with dh

I think I'd rather stay put on low pay than move, but I guess it depends if its feasible to live like that

DP got up at 4.30 this morning and didn't get in from work til 8pm!
No idea how long it will last, but at least he's being paid by the hour

Thats excellent Jas . Dh was at the Dungeon all day yesterday, so worked really hard and got back early. Which was handy as I found someone to help me bring home a huge bookcase that school was chucking out, so dh had the kids while Imoved it and painted it all (no patience to wait!). Finished 10pm!

Elephant was a much better plan.

Elephant???

I told her to get an elephant to help get the bookcase home.

Thought it would be a sound investment for both freecycle needs and hiring out for parties, school fetes etc

Oh thread with me whinging about due date is here btw. Seemed best to confine my moans

Happy due date!

Its very cool to bt two weeks over your date you know

Bookcase looks great; and I've even touched up all the places where small people have scribbled on the walls, and bought wood to fix the curtain rail. I'm on a DIY roll today . Think there's a rat in our shed tho

mrm - i have an auction running on ebay and someone has asked if I'll do a BIN price for it. If we agree a price, how do I physically put it on, and what fees will I incur?

I think you can only add a BIN if there's no bids yet. You go into 'revise listing' and there'll be an option. Think its a few pence to do it, not done for ages. But, most people who want it want you to sell outside of ebay so they can get it quick (in which case you can take a chance, then withdarw the listing, even tho its slightly aganisny the rules!). Al;so, if someone wants a BIN, its either cos in a hurry, or cos they want it really badly, in whih case they'll bis high anyway, so you mihgt be worth waiting. They'll offer you a lower BIN than willing to pay of course.

What is it? <nosey>

Just a boden top of dd's. No bids yet - only went on at 10pm last night, and they had asked by the time I got up this morning. I'll set a level that I'd be happy with, and if they don't want to pay that then I'm happy to let the auction run.
Have sold a few bits lately - was pleased to get just over a tenner for a pair of dd's old clarks boots.

I've got a few things to put on, but just not got round to it. Unless any of you lot are in the market for a scuttlebug/thunderbirds duvet cover/ xl Zara velvet culottes

No baby today then Flame? Sleep well

csws- did she go for your price then?

Where have you put the bookcase mrm??

Front room, corner diagonally opposite door. Terracotta sofa next to it, leather sofa at right angles to it under the back window. Bookcase opposite it in the gap between back window and chgimney breast. Treadmill under front window. PC cupboard on left as you walk in through door.

Thankyou What happened to the other exercisey thing? (Can't even remember what it is called)

cross trainer

Yes!

<proud>

Ok so MRM doesn't have an elephant, but does have a bookcase.
Flame is lumpy still and pissed off re both that and her dh's possible job going tits up
CSWS is making an ebay killing
Jas's dh is working all hours for reasonable dosh
Have I missed anything?

We have a new shop here and this site has icons since I last was on here! we opened today and all was good, dh was over there, whilst I helped out at Ripley, with the girls in tow too, who behaved themselves all day!! and played games/ds's nicely, whilst I oversaw the proceedings We're all working in the new store tomorrow, so fingers x'd that they're as good then too....am leaving them with dh for the last hour, as gran in in hosptial just down road, so am legging it to see her, though apparently she's not recognised anyone for the last two days, so will have to see if she's lucid or not

Haven't heard back, so I guess not EPPM!

Poor ds is ill. Rash, threw up everything this morning (inc stomach lining) and running a temp. Am assuming non-specific viral and doping him up with calpol and nurofen. Poor thing, and poor dd, because it's impacting on people wanting to play, naturally.

Congrats on new shop Friz.

Thanks CSWS, but oh poor ds give him a big hug from me, poor little mite....hope he's over it soon.

For new shop Friz.

For dp's work Jas. What a long day but i guess when he's getting paid by the hour it's not bad and gives you some peace from him

Flame - I daren't actually ask the question (especially as you're now overdue)but you know what i mean

for poorly ds csws.

We've all been full of cold here. Noah has had a cough and coughing alot after feeds and bringing all his milk back up so i was a bit worried about him getting dehydrated but the gp assured me he was fine and that is a normal reaction for babies with that type of cough because they can't cough the mucus crap up like we can. Fingers crossed he's getting over it though cos we've had no been sick today although still a slight cough.

Frizbe- many congratulations! Hope you're not too shattered my dear.

csws- hope ds is better soon poor boy People don't want to catch it? strange folk!

Phoenix- love the new photos- ds2 is a v smiley baby! Hope he is better soon though... I remember ds having yellowy mucus for ages after he was born- more with a cs than vb, cos it doesn't get squeezed out of them.

mrm- how many times a year do you rearrange your furniture? Seem to do it every few months!

Flame- big hugs (though of course, not if you don't want to be touched atm!)

<sob>

<am ignoring frizbe till they open london branch>

only move furniture when is good reason, cheeky . Had to move a little bit to get 2metre bookcase in and before that, we moved cos exlodger brought us huge tv which I thought wouldnt go in place of old tv, but as it happens, it did fit, so we moved stuff back again! Criss trainer got freecycled ages ago Jas, cos it was a crap one. When I said I'd have it off Dad I thought it was a bit better than it was.

ds1 sitting on sofa doing a stitch-your-own-felt-bag kit

{{{{Hugs}}}} to Flame, I reckon it sounds like its on its way out though it'll be really quick when it happens this time eh! Shower curtains at the ready!

[fgrin] at MRM

Thanks EPPM and Phoenix, am tired, but happy! dh has just crawled off to bed with 'man something' has sore throat and is feeling pap, I guess he's deflating now that its open, he's not good with stress.

I seem to have a black lap warmer, that's drooling on my hand as I type

CSWS how's ds today? better I hope?

I think I'm off to attempt to finish a book, wish me luck!

dum de dum...

Friz, whats the name of the warmup track in combat 41? Its driving me insane! Is it a remix of Rhianna or something? <middle aged person talking here>

I had a dream last night about doing the ballroom blitz track over and over [

Wish Flame would just get a wriggle on. Anyone know if there's a small (ie cheap[[) baby thing she actually needs , rather than me getting some clothing item cos its cute? I cant imagine there's anything she hasnt got baby-wise by now!

Hello!

I realise I have been absent for ages but flame in labour has dragged me back

Did I miss anything exciting?

Need to go collapse for a bit now as have done school run for first time in a week and am knackered! (been on tamiflu since thurs having felt rubbish since last monday)

Hi Dame! Sorry to hear you're unwell (maybe I should check fb properly!)

csws- I have just found one of your old threads v useful
Sadly it was your flour weevil thread <<vom>>

I am not actually making carrot cake this afternoon after all

Come on with that baby Flame!

lol EPPM - sorry about the cake!

Dunno re flame, but presumably that question was aimed more at her anyway .

Hellooooo dame! Can't remember when you were last on, so not sure what you've missed!
You know that Phoenix had a second boy don't you?
And friz has just opened a second shop.

I know what's happening with those I found on FB, well when I take things in that is!
I have lurked now and then but life is hectic.

Flame Congratulations on Carys, but OUCH for 9lbs9oz, damn that's large for the nether regions 'winces', its a good job you gave birth, that thread nearly went onto a new one!

MRM I think you're right with the track choice, I was amused by Metallica as a dance mix track, again with ballroom blitz, all rather its the 1st time I've done 41, but we've got it till Xmas apparently, so will have time to get with it

Hi Dame, as CSWS said I've been doing the store, not much else that I can think of, have you applied for school yet? or can't you yet?

Thankfully I've never encountered a flour wevil, but there is time I'm sure.....

School got their damn plant delivery today with no forewarning to the parents again (they're supposed to tell you what day it is) so of course I had no car...thankfully Meri's dh rescued us, plus another mum and child, or else I fear my plants would not have made it home.....

Dont you feel a bit daft doing the running in and out to ball room blitz, even by combat standards?!

Thank God Flame has finally had it

Frizbe- I don't mean to worry you... but they are in all flour apparently- the eggs are in the flour when it comes (thats a vommy face) mn is v useful though- put your flour in the freezer for 24 hours when you get it home from the shop, and they won't hatch...
Strangely enough, there was one bag of flour that had none in- it was a super-fine mill for sauces/pizza... that was also the only non-organic one, so not sure whether it's the lack of pesticides (yeah- they do have some uses) or the extra milling. Can't really use that one for carrot cake though.

Plants? delivered to school? Huh?
<whispers> is this a rural thing, or a regional thing, or what?


Awww.... a leetle tiny baby girl.... <sigh> how lovely.
Actually...not all that little! <wince>