thanks makka . I'm on her mailing list so had already heard. Made me a bit nervous about my wee venture I can tell you!

That is cute Natty

And thanks for the reassurance. I am taking comfort in the fact that things get a little bit (hold finger and thumb together to show just how little ) better each week.

Jammy your DD sounds pretty much at the same level with talking as my DS. He has just mastered "Bye Daddy" (very useful phrase around here). He is following in the footsteps of DD, and she was a late walker as well like your DD.
Anyway DD caught up quickly when she started and I think now has a bigger than average vocabulary. I think she is just a bit of a perfectionist!

jammy sounds like things improving. ive also said this before, but tom was nearly 2 1/2 before he could put two words together.
he doesnt shut up now.

ellen is in nappys, and is using baby signing.. she is apparently 'a baby, and is toooo little' (with finger and thumb togther to show me just HOW little) to do anything herself...
i think its hilarious

why not put a call out for moondog or one of the other SALTs on here and ask for a bit of advice on it? Or is that just worrying it into a problem iyswim?

now.....I have 15mins to decide whether or not I want wine and sports mix.......decisions decisions decisions.

No, she's not had a 2 year check. We got a letter from the HV shortly before her birthday, basically saying hope things are OK, remember we are here, we will be in touch at some point. I've been umming and erring about whether or not to approach them for a while. I don't think it's a long term problem, I think she can manage without saying much, is maybe a bit lazy, and is going to take after me, and some others from my family (and Daisy) and just suddenly start talking one day and never shut up! She certainly was late with the walking but once she started she just did it, no tottering a few steps at a time about for her! So maybe it'll be the same with the talking? I think I'll give it a while longer though (unless they approach us) as I'm not sold on our HVs really and things are improving.

Jammy, has she had her two year check? If so, what had your HV to say about her speech? If not, is it worth making an appointment? I've said it before, but I was very slow to start talking and wasn't talking properly until I was about three. I knew it all, just didn't have much to say

and for all DD was quick off the mark, she has suddenly decided that she isn't going to talk at all. some of it must be down to her sore throat, but the rest of it is just bloody mindedness I think.

Hope all illnesses hurry up and go away

Poor DS DAisy.

Your DS certainly does have a good appetite Fury. But in the photos I've seen he doesn't look too fat, just solid.

Nursery say that they've been concentrating on trying to help Jamlet with her speech, and that today she pointed to the sky and said "high" and to a whale in a book and said "fish" I heard her trying to say flower and road last week and at the weekend she tried to say duck when we saw a greetings card with one on She's slowly coming along with it.

Sorry to hear the illness Daisy!
I read on FB you were ill.

I have a stomach bug. I have been on the loo about 8 times a day for 4 days now. I am drained and exhausted. Everything is going straight through.

lol fury, my DD would struggle to eat that in a week, let alone a day! she has the appetite of a sparrow.

Poorly DC today . Both bumble and Dd have sore gravelly voices that are making them cry out in pain every time they cough or sneeze . It's been calpol all round here.

took them all shopping today and was out from 9 until 2, by which time I was ready to nail DS1 to the next doorpost....but it's been a trying day for the wee soul; he managed to wiggle his wobbly tooth out, and was cleaning it before putting it under his pillow and dropped it down the plughole; he is distraught, so I convinced him to write a note to the tooth fairy and it would be all OK!

fat little fucker. Bless him.

Now.
I know I sound like a broken record but I am often astounded at how much my 2 year old can eat.

1/2 a south african Ouma rusk
a banana
2 bowls cereal
2 slices toast
3 servings chicken korma
mixed fruit
1.5 ham sandwiches
melon slices
1 serving chicken and broccoli pie with wedges and carrots
2 yogurts
milk

Have switched weekly shops to Asda. Cannot afford sodding Waitrose any more. I hope that DS#2 is more... normal.

Natty. And ignore those HVs! A lot of them should come with a health warning attached I reckon, for the amount of stress they cause!

Had a lovely trip to a sewage treatment works this morning

i got bollocked for undressing him on the floor (changing table had stuff on it)
im really begining to not like the HV's round here.

charlie now weighs 8lb 14oz. so he has regained his birth weight AND put a whole pound on in three weeks.

charlie slept 12-5.30 thats almost 6 hours!
must be a one off surely.

he has gone all chubby on me the last few days, hes got fat cheeks and he doesnt have chicken legs no more
HV coming this morning to weigh him so hopefully they will sign us off (i hate weighing babies, i can tell if he is gaining weight or not) and hopefully wont give me another bollocking about the fact i dont keep his red book in my changing bag!

thanks sputnik...now once I have deciphered what you actually mean by that, I might take you up on it

I'm just playing at the minute, and finding my way round it all.

Bumblebums sounds good
Ok, you need to find out the DNS for where you host your e-shop, it should be somewhere in the settings. Then go to your domain administration page and change the DNS to the DNS of your hoster. It might take a day or so to work. If you can't figure it out you can email me if you like and I'll take a look.

I like the name Daisy

261 photos now being converted from RAW files to jpg. Then I can get some onto facebook - but I won't bore you with all of them, don't worry

feeling much better this evening, but poor bumble has it now
he has got a wee sore gravelly voice, bless him.

I am going deeemented with domains and e-stores and shit like that (which has kept me off MN . I have my domain, I have my e-shop, but I can't see how to connect the two, and don't want to replicate everything. Still, having fun playing with it all though. and realising I need to spend some money on something like photoshop or something in order to do logos and shit like that.

I have decided my name is going to be........

<<<<<<<drumroll>>>>>>>

bumblebums

D'ye see what I've done there?

now tell me it's a good name or I'll cry!!

<runs from contagious thread>.....

, not really. Hope you're all better soon. I am a bit busy recently sorting new house out, not to mention the old one. Not made too much progress though.

Well done Charlie!

Hope you feel better soon Daisy. Sore throat and bad head going on here today Hope it doesn't get worse as I am meant to be visiting a sewage works tomorrow and don't want to miss out!

I agree that it has been very quiet around here of late. And where has Foxy been? - seems like an age since I saw her.

sorry you are still poorly daisy sounds like your not getting better? trip to docs maybe? <<mother hen emoticon>>

i sold my old mobile phones on ebay and have promptly spent the money on a weenotions nappy order
oh well

charlie had me up only once last night, but then he mamouth fed from 7-10pm and then 3am, then 6-10am.. bloody hell!

hey fairy'; me too, but I find keeping us contained in one room where the kids can wreak havoc and I can 'pooter quietly in the corner is working wonders!!

We should be out and about but we have all been choked with the cold. I had a horrible turn last night before bed; palpitations, sweating, dizzyness and a rush of heat from my feet to my head that if I'd been standing would have had me on the floor . I then felt woozy and agitated for ages and couldn't sleep. Have a head full of cotton wool this morning. So, our plans to get out and about today have been scuppered again.

Hi everyone, I'm still around but mostly been lurking this week, as finding the holidays rather chaotic.

Jamlet's problem yesterday was that she was tired and just wanted cuddles from me, but I was busy taking photos so couldn't give them to her, so she was howling I felt bad but DH just took her away as when she couldn't see me she was fine. But when he brought her back to appear on some of the photos she saw me and started howling again and just would not stand with the group. But I got some more informal shots of her so not all is bad. When I've done some of the processing work I will put some pics on FB.

Hope you have a great time on the Broads Daisy. We won't be able to get up to Norfolk then, so won't see you (again) And hope you are all feeling better in time for hols.

<<runs in panting>>

my computer had a funny half hour and was refusing to turn on the wireless

thought i was going to have to live without MN for a few days..
dh fixed it, there is a button on my keyboard that turns it off apparently..
its very depressing that i used to know everything about computers, three kids later im being baffled by wireless buttons.


bad few days, MIL dumped her son (BIL) on us AGAIN yesterday we had him till 7pm today AND we had to travel to brixton by public transport to drop him home. grrr
and charlie was feeding all night again.

ellen has been having nightmares about dinosaurs for three days now. what do you guys think about taking her to natural history museum to show her they are ok really?? or will that scare he shitless?

hope things are a bit better today MPW

sorry your still feeling poor daisy

hello JBM

hey norty

I know, where is everyone?

I read somewhere that the natural life span of a PN thread was about two years....

at least we can keep up on facebook!

We are hoping to go to Scotland next year as well, but DH is already muttering about the midges!!

sounds lovely. We're not doing hols this year but plan to do the West coast of Scotland next year

At the rate were going, by the time you come back we'll be on the same thread....if there is anyone left!

oh, I hadn't refreshed jammy so missed you.

glad you had a nice time, but sorry for jamlet's camera shyness, DD would be a nightmare doing that as she has gone all shy all of a sudden and hides behind my legs whenever anyone so much as looks at her in the street.

None of us have had much of a temp Norty; just skimming 38 really, although I have been feeling a bit clammy the last couple of days, and bumble has been off colour all day. Don't want to get a (mis)diagnosis of SF and then bugger our chances of getting tamiflu later when we really need it!!

We're off the the Norfolk Braods for two weeks......am soooooo looking forward to the R and R.

Glad it went well Jammy . My neicce was a bridesmaid at my wedding and was about the age of our DDs and she was the same and the only time she's in any of the photo's, she's buggering off out of the shot!

How do you all deal with discipline and getting them to understand what they're doing it naughty / stupid / bloody dangerous / not allowed. We have tried a variety of methods but DD usually looks at me and smirks , just goes back and does it again or just says no with a look of "don't give a fuck".

Hope you're ok Daisy. Have you got a temp - official SF is a temp plus 2 other symptoms, which include cough and diarrhoea, runny nose and headaches.

Where are you off on your hols?

no, just a nasty cold I think....although I had diahorrea and have a stinking sinus headache and my lungs ache (although no cough)

We've all had something of varying degrees; DH, DS1 and DS2 coughing, me and DD with the runs....hoefully it'll be out of our systems before our holiday next week.

I am home but up to my eyes in photos. I took about 450 yesterday, which need reviewing, adjusting where necessary and converting to jpg format for printing! Was a good day though, hard work but I enjoyed myself. Jamlet wasn't the world's best bridesmaid - she cried too much to stay through the service, she wouldn't go onto the posed photos with the other bridesmaids and I forgot to give her her horseshoe to give to the bride until well into the afternoon , but she looked cute and everyone loved her

Oh Daisy ...have you got SF?

DH and I just tried to watch Red Riding from yonks ago....neither of us could work out wtf was going on so we deleted it and retired to our computers

I'm here....feeling like a big pile of poo. the screen keeps making me feel dizzy!

No-one here still? Blimey, not even worth lurking.

I was right wasnt I!!
Sorry to hear about your crappy stuff though Makka. Im sure it'll all turn out ok in the end - it always seems to for you.

Right well as no one is around , I bid you all goodnight xx

Havent been on for a while and looks like you're all having a Rl or gone to bed!!

Now who is MakkaPakkas' willy??? mmmmm - My guess before looking is Fury??

Am going to have to have a clear out - have bought more plastic tat today from a boot sale - I can't resist a bargain though!!
Got a Fisher Price Garage for £1 and tons of Happy Land/St stuff for £8 (train track, road tack, farm, vehicles, people etc) Think I'll have fun putting it all together and L will just have fun demolishing it though!!

Are you good people all ok??
will catch up .

oops posted before I was ready

Daisy go to bed and get some kip, you need a rest!

Daisy our boiler died. No hot water here for the last couple of days, it needs parts that can't be delivered until Monday, grrrrrr

been busy and feeling like shoite here Natty. Choked with the cold with a stonking headache and diahorrea....but I'm sure it isn't the dreaded swine flu as I don't have a cough or anything else. Bit of a temp earlier but it's gone now.

Spent two hours in a soft play centre at a birthday party as well, which was really enjoyable...NOT.

DS1's curls have all gone . Had him sheared this afternoon as I was sick of the fight to get it washed/combed/dried and his scalp is all scurfy from him not rinsing it properly. So, short back and sides and a bottle of vosene (now there's a smell straight out of my childhood) and he should be looking a lot less scabby soon!! He looks soooooo grown up though <sob>. I managed to swipe a curl beofre it all got swept away though!

What's up with the plumbing MPW? and when will it get sorted?

No need for pregnancy test here! Why is it that I am an evil bitch mum from hell for the two days prior to my period every month, yet it still takes me by surprise every fecking month.....come on and then think "oh, yeah, that'll be why I've been an evil bitch"

off to make myself feel better with crisps and chocolate....then a hot toddy and bed.

<<tumble weed>>

i swapped him with thomas mpw....
<<evil cackle>>

Emergency plumber is on his way.

Am tired.

What happened to DS? Last 2 days he has been LOUD and HYPER and WILL NOT SLEEP or SHUT THE HELL UP

daisy. Those are the times to treasure.

well, I have been seriously fucked off tody, having spent yet another day doing everthing on my own. I am knackered beyond belief tonight, and I really do feel like I've ironed every single item of clothing we own. In the morning I still have to pack, and we need to hoover (it's a bugger having my Dad feed the cat. Things have to be immaculate just in case DM comes with him!)

really sorry you are having a crap time fury, hope you get a decent sleep tonight.

aww daisy thats really nice

Hey Daisy

Yes we work for the same people - but different departments. Also I am a permy and he has a fixed term contract for 2 years so is less secure than me.

You can find my email address on FB, or just message me via FB.
I'll investigate first thing in the morning.

It's very easy to get ripped off when it comes to domain names so I'll have a wee peek and make sure they're not pulling a fast one!

I am off to bed - had a long day, not sleeping well these days. Night all!

crap fury; like Natty says, sometimes it seems like it never rains but it pours.

Do you and DH not work for the same people? or was that before?

can you remind me of your email address; I lost my address book when my pooter crashed a while back.

Well, the best laid plans and all that......went to M&S yesterday and got a dine in deal for me and DH tonight. Got the stuff in the oven and then all the kids to bed, did a bit of housework (yes really!) then served up our lovely meal (the acacia glazed gammon with added baby onions from our garden, with the ceasar veg and home made herby wedges followed by sicilian lemon cheesecake for them and raspberry panacotta for me) and we were having a nice chat when DS1 appeared. But, he got a mini plate of food and sat and joined us and chatted away about his week and it was a really nice thing, not the usual nonsense. We all then had pudding and we had coffee and he had a hot chocolate. He has gone to bed happy as he has been let into the inner sanctum of adulthood. He'll be expecting this sort of treatment every night though

<well fed contented sigh>

Natty I feel miles better for having a whinge ;)

I don't do it often!

And thanks for that Bumper, that cheered me up actually!

fury.

Just read back. Fury, my little sis was in a out of hospital with asthma as a child, it was pretty awaful. But the good news is she has grown out of it now.

mpw ok it is that bad.

do you feel better for having had a bit of a rant now tho? or have u still got more in there

Makkapakka - sorry haven't read what has happened but just thought I would tell you you have been named checked on this thread. Hope DS is ok

I don't think it 'seems' worse, I think generally it is actually a bit crap

I sent an email to my sister explaining my woes. She responded with '4 months ago my husband left me and had an affair'.

I want to be sympathetic but I REALLY want to reply with 'then why are you still sleeping with him?'

oh mpw
it never rains its pours. i remember feeling like that a few months back with all the money problems and dh being forced to stop work, and all the rest of that crap.
i think (not being patronising, well trying being pregnant makes it all seem so much worse.
whats the MN equivelant of a huge <<HUG>>??

Oh yeah, and the boiler died yesterday. Cold showers all round.

Actually, you know what, I am having a fucking shit week.

What with DS passing out and going blue, I got a £1500 tax bill, my car being broken into and my stuff stolen, my SPD is so bad I am up all night in agony and I still have at least 4 fucking weeks to go, and today we find out that DH is likely going to be made redundant and has 2 months.

Fuckin' awesome.

Anyone else want to shit on me from a great height? Go on bring it on, I'm well hard.

What Sputnik said

You can't buy a domain 'forever'...tbh I'd be a bit suspect about that. Normally you have to pay annually.

Email me the domain you want and I'll have a look.

You can buy your domain anywhere you like btw. If ithe name is free then it's free.

I think both would come out equally on search engines, the one without the hyphen would be marginally preferable simply because it's less of a mouthful to tell someone verbally, IYSWIM.

Once you buy a domain you can host it wherever you like you just need to change this DNS thing, it stands for Domain Name Server and simply it's the server that tells the rest of your internet where your domain is. Not a redirect.

right, so what would I be buying on the site that says that the domain I want is for sale? <confused>

would I be better buying the domain which is eg blahblah.co.uk, or go for one that is available which is blah-blah.co.uk. Will the one without the hyphen will come up more in search engines?

my dad did something similar i think, he bought a .com domain name, but got it to redirect to his free hosting address which was a go.to/yournamehere.
so basically when you typed in orangepromotions.com it would then send you to go.to/orangepromotions.

is this what you mean?

to be honest im good at the creative stuff, not so good at getting them up on the internet, i think i cheated and used geocities alot as i just had to upload my pages much like you would pictures on facebook. then redirect to geocities from the main url. but then of course u have to put up with an advert banner which on an offical site (ie not something for coursework as mine was) is probally not a great idea.

oh and im a dab hand at graphic design as well, was my original career choice (till i fell pregnant halfway thru my course )

Hosting and domain registration are 2 separate things, although lots of people sell them together. You can't buy a domain forever, you need to renew annually or whatever (you can pay for 5 or 10 years or whatever in 1 go though). Once you have your domain you need to set your DNS to whatever host you choose.

a quick question natty; so far the domain names I have looked at are through a hosting website. The domain name I really want is already takenm but is for sale. If I buy it outright, do I then not need to pay yearly. I have got a couple registered through 1and1 (as recommended by fury) and pay so much per year for them. then if I did buy it outright and it was mine forever, could I then use this via someone like 1and1 or would I be on my own?

I really am clueless at this.

i always found frontpage (comes with office) good for first timers, i dont know if u have that already?
i used to build mine from scratch using code (i find programmes limiting) but i have heard good things about dreamweaver.

and if anyone has any advice on which free cheap software I should use to build my website I'd be greatful.

I didn't know Natty.....it's good to know it though and I might will need some advice at some point!

aw daisy thats good
did u know i studied web design and programming at college? if you get stuck and want help

absolutely normal natty, tiring though it is and with three two other kids to look after as well

have a look on kellymom, it's a great website.

Now sputnik and fury, don't laugh at me as I am feeling inordinately proud of myself, but I made THIS

It's a bit pants <no pun intended, lol> but considering I know fook all about t'interweb and pooters, not a bad start.

Not even sure I'm going with that name, and have registered another couple of domain names....

Totally normal, stick with it.

daisy i am full of cold too.

yes i agree it is a little counter productive, but some nights i just need to NOT have a baby attached to me for five hours.
hoping to get supply up quickly, i am putting him on one side, then the other, then back to the first side until he is full.. but then half hour later he wants more.
this cluster feeding in the evenings is normal isnt it?

(realises she knows very little about bf)

natty, giving him the stuff you expressed in the morning is OK, but it can be counterproductive, as he is telling your boobs in the evening that your body needs to be making more iyswim.

the best way of ramping up your supply is switch feeding; so when he is done on one switch over and vice versa. It might be coming slower, but rest assured your boobs are NOT completely empty. Have you had a look at the stuff on kellymom. Loads of other useful stuff on there as well.

lol fury at chips and smokes . hope you're doing OK. I think I'm going to be on holiday when you pop.....someone please send me a text!

Had a decentish sleep last night; bumble didn't wake till gone 5! See I know the little bugger can do it!!! I feel like a new woman, inspite of being choked with swine flu the cold

seriously tho, hope ur ok mpw.. 'just shoot me' does not sound positive..

charlie had me up every 2 hours feeding im shattered..

whats everyone elses plans for today?

Natty, my willy IS miniscule. And Daisy is a fucking slag, all over that Iggle Piggle she is, and wtf is the obsession with the fucking pretty flowers?
My butch looking DS now walks everywhere saying 'look at the pretty flowers' which is... odd.

Then again in the next breath he asks to go to the pub for chips and a smoke.

"Mummy I wanna go pub. I want chips and smoke"

Brilliant.
When we go to the pub I have coke, but he can't say it, and instead says smoke. People look at me like I am the incarnation of Kerry Katona.

Mother Dearest is coming here today.
No doubt I will have to endure listening to her tell me how fab she is and what a great mother she is etc.
We are going to Westfield.

Glad feeding going well Natty

Sorry for shitty days

My friend who was round with her DH for curry tonight is 37 weeks, but might be having c-section next week. Apparently baby is in awkward breech position and they don't think they can turn it, so are planning a section. She goes in on Monday to arrange the date. We sent them home with a moses basket on loan and a stack of DVDs for her to watch while feeding Made me think of all the hours I sat on the sofa with Jamlet. I'm sure she had a pavlovian style response to the sound of the "Poirot" or "Bleak House" theme music

And we've been given a toddler bed for Jamlet. A friend's DD has just outgrown it and offered it to us. She brought it round tonight so I gave her a bottle of wine for her trouble. Actually we were given Jamlet's highchair and paid with a bottle of wine, bit of a them going on...

of course you can!
yeah going thru that early i think, he is feeding like a maniac last 3 days, im actually running out in the evenings completly, and having to pace with him for half hour and drink pints of water to get some more produced. thinkim doing the right thing there, im guessing really lol!!
tonight was prepared for it i expressed this morning when i always have more then i need, so he has just had an extra 4 oz as my boobs were empty again.

hoping supply picks up this is knackering.
oh and def hormonal, poor dh getting shouted at all the time

Nah, Norty, after discussing with DH when it was we actually last had sex and it was before my last period. So not bothering. I think boobs are sore because bumble is puching against the sofa with his feet when feeding and obviously tweaking things a bit <ouch>

I'm glad things have settled down Natty . You're over the worst of the pain, but beware that ole 3 week growth spurt/hormonal dip is just around the corner.

PS can I use you as a case study for my BFC course?

You done that pg test Daisy?

Sorry you've had a shitty day

I've been looking at some of the gossip threads today as well - moldie stuff STILL going on!

lol daisy.
BF going fantastically now, cheers for all your help, i was close to giving up x

PMSL Natty . I just saw the "nasty ----- daisy" in your post and was wondering "What have I done?"

gosh MPW what on earth for? its not that small dont listen to that nasty upsy daisy (shes a bit of a slag anyway..)

I'm around; just diffiuclt to post with DD charging around getting into everything and bumble pulling to toy box over on his head every half and hour.

been busy running around and sorting stuff out as well, so no time to post.

I have had a fucking awful day as well, so have been lurking on all the juicy gossip threads all day as well.

Sorry for arsey DHs and yay for weekends away. It's only a week until my hols....yay

Just shoot me

aww jammy sounds like u have a good time planned

me and dh argued all day, about everything.

his morphine patches ran out today i wonder if that has anything to do with it

I had an argument with DH this morning and visited a friend who was moaning about her DP. All about what they do/don't do re housework etc. Must be the day for it!

Cuddled my friend's 14 week DS this afternoon. First time I'd seen him. He is huge and very active and strong. Jamlet got jealous though!

Other friends (she is 8months pg, so another littlie to hold soon ) coming for tea tonight (Indian take away ) and then off to Norwich tomorrow for DNiece's wedding on Saturday. So if I don't get back, have nice weekends everyone!

oh ria i could have written that about my DH.. always me that has to stop what im doing

I'll have to be careful or this will turn into a full-on rant, but it's always me that breaks off what I'm doing to feed the kids/bath the kids/hang out the washing etc. I know it isn't his fault he's in so much pain, but I think maybe he needs to get a grip just a little

of course, now I've been mean about him he'll probably be really nice tomorrow

oh good ria about ur godson.

idont like moaning about him, and i hate fighting but he is being a total wanker. (oh er!)
i wouldnt mind if i HAD done nothing, but even with awful stitches and pumping on one side for the best part of one of those 2 weeks, i have STILL done the washing and cleaning.
litrally all he has done is the kitchen (cooking and cleaing) and tidy the living room a bit

poor him

i bet when he has his op, he will be in bed at least a week.

men

Natty, I should hope all you have done is sleep and feed the baby. Important IMO.

I don't like moaning about my DH, but he really is being an arse ATM. Hopefully I am going out with dsis tomorrow, so he can do what he likes! Am really thinking of not going away until Monday though, there's a lot I would like to do before I go and it's not going to happen.

I am also getting about the money he is owed from work. I don't know what else he can do to get it, but he seems to have given up since they arranged to meet with him last week then they were out when he went at the agreed time

think I am maybe a bit bad tempered ATM

phew, godson no longer being treated for swine flu. He was given ABs over the phone for tonsilitis, and the tamiflu as a precaution, but he has thrown up, slept overnight and is fine today, so fried is only giving the ABs unless he gets worse again. A relief as his DB would probably bu high-risk

oh ria its so annoying when DH/DP's do that. mine is famous for it.

we had a massive row this morninng apparently "all i have done for the last 2 weeks is feed the baby and sleep"
oh and its so unfair that he has cooked every day for the last few weeks (i have cooked at least twice)

so how has the washing been done? and the bathroom? and the kids room? granted i have not touched the kitchen for since charlie was born, but come on!

i seriously think he thinks this house is self cleaning

pah to shorts naps (although pah to long ones too - DH went back to bed at 10am for "half an hour" and got up just before my tutorial at 2pm)

So, I have been fuming all morning, hanging out washing, tidying, trying to be nice to the kids, cramming in 2 weeks worth of studying into an hour, then since then I've spent an hour tidying out the toy-dumping-ground that is the playpen. All is now tidy int he living room, just a tiny bit of dusting to finish (when DH isn't looking cos I'm moving some of his stuff!) and the hoovering. Another room down. DH can wash the floors when we're away.

DS2, bless him, dried up this morning and then dusted the bookcase where rthe kids books are, and put them all back in a nice straight line. DS1 is driving me mad, he is wandering about being gormless and avoiding tidying his room.

Ria

I'm trying to spend DDs nursery day sorting out kids clothes. DS has gone up another size and has hardly anything to wear. I got what I thought was loads in the Next sale, but at the rate he pukes, they don't last long! And having one of each, there is nothing apart from a few stained sleeveless vests that I can pass down to him! He's already sleeping in a pink sleeping bag and eating out of pink bowls, but that would be going TOO far.

Bugger, he's awake. This nap is supposed to be the long one....why didn't anyone tell him that

Its SO muggy here.

Where is everyone?

Ria.

And Fury, I also missed the bit about your car. for you.

my godson is being treated for swine flu

sorry fury, missed your news for you.

glad you had a good night natty, but (IMO re my DH at least) if he's in too much pain to do stuff round the house, then he's in too much pain for anything else too

DH son texted tonight (frst since probably xmas, though I don't remember a "thanks for my presents" text then either) and it's pissed me off. Hence my thoughts on NS!

Glad you enjoyed it Natty

I've spent the day at Hornimans gardens today visiting friends....last time I was there was on a June 7 meet-up

Traffic in South London was bloody awful....had forgotten what it was like...and those bastard buses!!!

DCs had a fab time and were as good as gold

Arse about the car Daisy - and Fury.

sorry ria i have NO idea what that means

im afraid that wine was rather too yummy, ive had most of it to myself feeling the effects of it now tho!
the curry was super nice as well.

im going to have an early night (well 10pm) charlie had a full feed AND a 5oz bottle of ebm, so he is zonked till at least midnight. might as well get a few extra hours in.

thanks again guys, love ya!

bring back national service!

Natty

"I'm all of a muck lather"

stupid woman fancy not knowing whst awheeze is...

im bored...

It was "my DS has asthma and he has been coughing since yesterday and has a bad wheeze" fairly obvious to me.

thankfully we have a computer check in so I don't need to go to the desk!!!

off to a BBQ afterwards (and the rain has just started )

laters xx

Tch, you'd think anyone would know what a bad wheeze was! Presumably it was in context, as in "I'm worried about my DS who's got a bad wheeze" or somthing similar? What kind of numpty was she?

It was cooking fun at the children's centre this morning. Jamlet rolled out some cookie dough and helped cut out some cookies, and we made a rice cake face, which made her very messy when she ate it! I had my camera with me and took pics but I was trying out RAW format pictures and can't seem to put them on FB until I've converted, and haven't had my lesson from DH in how to do that yet

as someone has pointed out on my AIBU thread I referred to it as "a bad wheeze" rather than "he's wheezing badly" and that it might be a regional thing that she didn't understand, me being scotch and all.

in what context is muck lather used?

wheeze is a word as far as I'm concerned. did she think you said whizz? silly woman. is there a Torchwood-like place for the training of medical receptionists?

talking of regional words, Iwas wondering this morning, if "muck lather" was in general use, or is it just my family

oh, I'm bored, tired, hungry... DH has washed the car (because he was given a pressure washer) and is now hoovering it out. I was meant to be blitzing the living room, and writing my maths assessment today (already overdue), so I could watch Midsomers tonight. I can't be bothered.

lol ria, I also drink the occasional bottle glass and my DC are bright as buttons

Just called to make an appointment for DS1 at the docs; he has asthma and it never usually bothers him but he started coughing yesterday and wheezing really badly. Of course I'm worried about swine flu so though I'd better talk to the docs. the bloody receptionist was obviously being very hard of understanding as she purported not to know what a wheeze was????? I had to spell it out and I think she thinks I'm bonkers. she just said "oh do you want an appointment" ????? wtf. Is wheeze not a generally accepted english term then? is it only scottish asthmatics who wheeze?

anyhoo, I was concerned about taking him to the surgery incase it is SF, but she never gave me the option to have a phone consultation so it's off to the surgery we go.

Natty.

I had the occassional glass when feeding baggins and he's a strapping healthy lad. It won't harm!

arse about your car situation daisy.

I have just been searching for some shoes I knew I'd bought for baggins in the hell hole cupboard under the stairs (they seems to fit) and I found a bag of xmas prezzies from last xmas. still waiting to be wrapped I'm ahead on stocking fillers already

after 2 days of full-on cleaining, an a clean hallway and kitchen, I've run out of motivation.

Glad you like it Natty

oh yes
think i might weigh a stone more by the end of the week!
kids loving the raspberrys, we dont often buy them as they are so expensive

i MAY have eaten half the brownies already...

Glad you like the order Natty We thought you/DH would appreciate a bit of time off cooking, and tried to include a few treats as well. Just hope we got things you like!

not drunk for a year so thinking a glass might be enough to bladder me lmao

natty, no need to pump and dump, or to give expressed milk. As long as you aren't pissed as a fart when feeding then it'll be fine.

I regularly have a few glasses and feed afterwards, no problems.

any ideas how many feeds i need to prepare for that little man cant have lol.. planning on drinking the bottle between us tonight, we could really do with a break.

natty.

awww u guys! tescos shop is excellent. dh relieved he doesnt have to cook for a few days and also pleased i will be getting tiddly tonight (as he thinks he will get some )
kids love crayons and sweets too.

all in all a wonderful pressie thank you all very much

<<tearful emoticon>>

arse MPW

I'm forever leaving mine unlocked, but thankfully it always looks like someone has already ransacked it so it gets left alone

actually recently someone had opened the glove compartment and the underseat drawers recently but nothing in them other than some CDs in beaten up boxes....obviously they didn't rate my musical taste and none appear to have been taken. But as per aforementioned state of car, I couldn't honestly tell

arse for u mpw, whats happening to the world. how long ago did it happen last time?

Last night some time.

Car was ransacked, but I think it must have been kids as they left 2 items of value - the pram (not a cheap one) and the locking wheel nut that came with the car (apparently these are about £400). They did however get my sat nav and DH's ray bans...about £450 worth of stuff really.

Luckily we don't ever leave much of value in it - but as there is no real damage to the car not sure if insurance will pay up, they may argue we left it unlocked (I don't think we did but it's a remote possibility, the last time we used it was when we were panicking as DS was passing out going blue and not breathing, we may have been preoccupied).

oh dear MPW, when did that happen?

Fucking cunting arseholes that break into my car

This is why guns should be legalised. I should be a sniper.

cheers daisy
little man is really congested too and is having terrible trouble eating too, bless him.

poor ds, hope he improves and doesnt get any worse tomorrow, is it a cold do you think?

natty, boots own brand hot lemon and hot blackcurrant remedies are OK as they don't have any decongestants in them....but you can also make your own hot honey and lemon drink and bung some soluble paracetomol in.

DS1 is coughing and wheezing really badly this evening . He hasn't had any asthma symtoms for over a year and a half. Wondering whether to call the docs tomorrow or not?

daisy thats really crap about the car

im so sick feeling very sorry for myself. any ideas what i can take for a cold whilst bf??

no Daisy, I don't hate you for saying that

Arse about your car And get thee tested!

I know DSis has to decide for herself. That's why I'm not after solutions to her problem. She knows the options, she just won't try to pick one! But I am finding that I am getting frustrated with her and don't want to spoil our relationship. It hasn't helped that today she says she has been sent information about doing a master's degree and is thinking about it. And to me it sounds like she is just trying to put off facing reality. She is overqualified as it is and won't do anything with her degree, so part of me thinks why???? I know it'll do her sense of self worth a lot of good, but it's £3.5k and 3 years part time study on top of her job, which is a lot for something you don't actually need/won't actually use if you ask me! So I don't know what to say about it to her, which is making me feel awkward.

oh, jammy, wish I could help, but I can't help feel that she has to make the decision for herself. no harm in trying to cajole her though. you could always sign her up for email job alerts!!

Is it that sister who is on your FB photos? I thought it was you gone blonde until I saw the name underneath....you look so alike <thinks in the back of my mind that she is a lot older than you and hope you don't hate me for saying that>

lol at the namechange Fury, and a good un as usual Ria

Got some good news today; work responded about how much they owe me, and it's ooooooodles more than I thought; certainly enough to cover the cost of the new bathroom. Bad news too though; DH is losing his company car . They pushed him onto the comapny car option when he took the job, so we sold his old car. Now they say he isn't elligible under their new rules and are proposing a car allownace that by the time he pays tax will leave £250 a month to buy/run/service a car, which according to the company rules has to have less than 15000 on the clock, have min 75% of it's manufacturer's warranty and be fitted with a totally hands free bluetooth device ...and we have no fecking deposit sionce we sold his car...fuckers

actually he can keep a car, but it will be an astra which is certainly not big enough to fit a family of five.

and as an aside, I've had horribly sore boobs and nipples for over a week and it's been driving me bonkers. Couldn't figure out what was going on as I don't think it's thrush. It occured to me today that the last time I had this amount of discomfort when feeding was when I was pregnant with DS2 . I can't be though, or we are the unluckiest people in the world as we've only done it once, with a condom, since DS2 was born <buries head in sand>

Advice ladies?

LMAO!!!

DS chose my name.
He is slightly obsessed with Makka Pakkas willy.

We have pointed out to him that it's a TAIL, but he insists it's a willy.

Who am I to argue?

at furys name

we have all been in bed since half one only just got up, will be a late one for the kids now, but feel muchbetter.
i am full of cold and feeling sorry for myself, i feel like im leaking from everywhere atm (tmi lol) boobs exploded during our mammouth nap and drenched bed. im gonna need a new mattress soon if this keep happening.
well at least i know ive got a good supply

I often think of that Victoria Wood sketch when we go walking.

good to be prepared fury/MPW, does DS have to have tests and stuff now then?

good bargain jammy[

good feeding natty

It's Fury here.
Time for a change.

oh and charlie weighs 8lb 6oz (birth 7lb14oz) now despite all the problems

lmao! not to worry
did wonder why id hadnt come

Ah, I know what it is. I thought today was the 22nd. but it isn't , so your stuff will be with you tomorrow then Natty. Oh bugger

Arse!

my dishwasher is not working properly either.. must get round to calling out the plumber im sure we are under warrety

sorry had the HV here for 2 HOURS!
no tescos jammy dont know whats going on?

Hope you don't have to make that 999 call Fury.

Natty - are you there and have you got your goodies? Are they OK?

Like the new name Ria

Am stuffed at the moment from the bargain lunch DH picked up last night. Waitrose ham hock salad down from £3.60 to 35p; Waitrose pineapple, kiwi, mango & blueberry medley down from £3 to 30p; yoghurt, Innocent vanilla bean and honey thickie down from £2 to 60p! £8.60 in total down to £1.25

Took DS to GP, they aren't sure if he has asthma or not but have given him an inhaler to see how he goes, I have also been advised to call 999 if he repeats what he did last night.

oohh even better, I have a 2 year warranty apparently so its free .

Though the bottom filter which I can't get to was full of conjealed food and fat apprently . Moral of the story, rinse plates under the tap before loading, empty fat out of the roasting tins and run a dishwasher cleaner through every month otherwise next time it will cost over £200.

Morning

Love the new name Ria . I would love to change my name but suffer with a total lack of imagination!

Man here seeing to my dishwasher.....thought he was going to tell me there was nothing wrong with it but within a minute of being here, he told me its not taking enough water in....thank god....I'm not going mad and means my £85 isn't wasted!

that's nice that Mr Tbelle is here. I was just thinking of her the other day - a grandma at church group asked me if I felt inadequate because I didn't have twins (2 sets of baby twins at church group)

I plan to tackle the kitchen today... so expect me back within the hour!

hope all is well today fury.

Just a quick one to say that I had an email from tallulah and she says Hi to everyone and sends her Congratulations to Natty and apologies for not even lurking, but she has been a bit overwhelmed by it all. Her hubby is home again though so she promises to come and catch up soon

sorry to hear about DS fury, its very scary ive only ever witnessed one of DH's attacks and it frightened the life out of me. let alone if it was one of my DC hope you get some help at the doctors tomorrow

well i have been pinned to the sofa all afternoon and evening my little man seems to be having a growth spurt. my poor nipples! they had only just recovered as well.

im spending the day in tomorrow, pah! went to icelands and stocked up on crap food to feed my kids for the next week bad parent
way i look at it is i never ever feed my two things like chicken nuggets but i think after the last few weeks i deserve a break. plus they are about the only thing DH can cook

that's abit scary norty, but you just can't wath them every second.

baggins fell at the park and scraped his knee and his nose tonight

DS1 is driving me mad. But tonight he's been OK and told me a very "blonde" joke.

Am knackered from manic cleaning (and walking). Have a headache. and need to study

hope you can get DS seen tomorrow fury, take care.

Emergency GP didn't come out, he has just written a referral to a paed.
I have to book normal GP tomorrow and get him looked at.

He seems ok now though - a bit 'ditzy' but ok.

It has happened once before, about a year ago, but this one was much worse.

I am off to bed now - night y'all

Sounds scary Fury The good news is that young children with asthma often grow out of it. So fingers crossed, but poor you (all of you) inthe meantime.

gosh fury, poor DS . Are you seeing the emergency GP or have you seen them already? and if so, have they given him anything? They are scary things, but touch wood DS1 hasn't had one for nearly two years.

Blimey Fury...hope you and DS are ok . Have you got some ventolin now? I have some here and a mask from DDs younger days. Have you seen a doctor? {{hugs}}

Nearly ended up in an ambulance tonight

looks like DS has asthma

Need to get him to GP for diagnosis. He had what looked very much like an asthma attack.

I feel guilty that I didn't call 999...should I have? We rung the emergency GP

very very scary

Hello all

My DD is being a nightmare atm.

On getting out of the car yesterday she handed me something..."thank-you darling" I said...it was a huge bogey! Lovely!

Today, I found my son in his seat with a whole sheet of kitchen roll stuffed in his mouth....my heart nearly stopped I tell you. I told her how dangerous it was but she doesn't understand, so there was no point ranting and raving at her. I can't supervise her 24/7 so don't know how to handle it ....it really scared me. DS was fine, I fished it out and he smiled at me!

oooh fury not long now eh? seems like only yesterday i was moaning about how uncomfortable i was, then going into false labour!!

charlie driving me mad! he is feeding for 5 mins and falling asleep, waking up after 20 mins and demanding to be fed again. over and over..
oh and he explovsive poo'd all over me and the sofa earlier mind u that actually mad both me and dh crack up!

I am off shortly for a hospital tour.

Bags are packed, baby clothes washed, nappies purchased, now all I need to do is give birth.

I have DS tomorrow. NO idea what to do with him. Local library have a storytime, maybe he'd like that.

ria i feel exactly the same way, DH didnt change till DS2 was born, and i stopped doing everything. infact other then the washing (which he would shrink/run colours) i am doing no housework at all.
and he has actually started to do it.. its taken 2 weeks and im sure it will stop as soon as i start doing stuff again lmao!

when are you leaving for your holiday?

tried to talk to DH this morning about how ba the state of the house makes me feel, but why should I bother when no-one else does. He says he tidies up but the kids follow him round making mess (they do) and it's OK that he just picks stuff up and dumps it in the playpen because he doesn't know where it goes. maybe when he finds his Cat Stevens CD upstairs in pieces cos it was on the floor he'll think again. Trying hard to stay off the PC and at least get downstairs and the laundry sorted for our holiday.

thanks jammy

Glad things are improving Natty

OK, your goodies should be coming between 9 and 11 tomorrow morning

getting better, its mostly one side thats having the problem, he doesnt like feeding off that side and wont open his mouth fully. keeps spitting the nipple out and screwing up his face in disgust
not really sure what to make of it, other then that i know the let down and flow isnt half as good as the other side to maybe he is frustrated at the slower flow?

how's that latch Natty?

thats no problem jammy. sorry about that
DH got confused cos the last tennant was called ur first name and another surname begining with the same letter so he thought the last tennant hadnt changed over their address details or something by mistake. lol!

any day is fine, morning slots better then afternoon, but im not really fussy.
spending alot of this week in because my stitches still hurting too much to go out without taking stupid amounts of painkillers.

joke is this is the first morning since DS2 was born that he actually got up with the kids and left me in bed!

OK, must be quick as meant to be at work!

Daisy texted me to alert me to this (thanks ) Tesco never contacted me. I have just rung them and no they cannot redeliver it this morning. They will take it all back to store and give me a refund, and then I will reorder it. Happy to do this, but means you'll have to wait a wee longer Natty. Any time you won't be in? I'll try to get it sorted in my lunchbreak so if you can leave a message here or on FB about when to get it delivered (or when not to) by then that'd be great!

Sorry

these things happen Natty....I can imagine it must have seemed a bit odd, especially if you hadn't done an online shop! I've sent a text to Jammy but she said they hadn't contacted her.....I gave her your mobile number (at least I hope it's still your number...ending 4 7 1 9?). I'm sure it'll all get sorted out.

awww sorry guys!
hope she can sort it!

We did Natty. Jammy organised it, so I assume they have called her about it. I'll see if I can get hold of her!

bugger. did u guys do me a tesco shop? cos dh sent one away when i was sleeping

aww daisy hope things improve soon. teething do you think? maybe the sucking is helping??
(either that or he will shoot up about a foot next week )

stressful day here, thomas is getting worse and worse, i was horrid shouty mummy today
is it a bit mean that i cant wait to send him to nursery?

fixed the wii today, one of the kids had stuck a primark label into the disk slot. very very in the shop when the guy pulled it out, but at least it wasnt food

what a day...whingy children and bathroom shopping do not a happy combination make.

started off the day by having bumble fall out the bed with an almighty thump as I had nodded off feeding him, but he had stayed awake!

then whinge, fight, thump, shout, screech, whinge, cry, tantrum, screech, fight and thump until we went out after lunch. then whinge, play up, scream and cry all round B&Q and DH and I ended up buying a bunch of tiles in desperation and I have no idea whether it'll look good or a heap of poo.....chocolate brown floor tiles anyone . Good news is we got a cracking deal on a sink/toilet/taps combo and have seen a lovely bathc, pretty cheap elsewhere....so it's all coming together.

bumble still feeding like a newborn and I am wizzened....he fed for half an hour at bedtime, slept for half an hour then had a seven oz bottle of formula (I am soooo sore the amount he is feeding with his wee sharp teeth) as I couldn't face feeding him more, then he wouldn't settle and eventually had another breastfeed before falling asleep.

I can't keep up this level of feeding

Oh and we got into trouble for getting food out before everyone had arrived! But it was 12 o'clock and Jamlet was hungry!

The village hall was hired Bumper, so we just set up in there

Was lovely to see my family but a little sad that there was very little mixing between tables. I tried to get into conversation with some people on table next to us by asking about the 7 month and 11 month old DCs there, but they didn't want to know really. But saw my parents, mum's brothers and one of my aunts, my sister and her children so that was lovely. Although one uncle was a bit weird, I thought. I haven't seen him in years so I went over and said hello, introduced him to Jamlet, then asked after his DDs (he has 4, all grown up). He just said they were fine, but I'd have loved to know more about what they are doing. Then he just stood there silent Families eh?

I'm just single minded Fury, when I want something I will do anything I can to get it (then quickly get bored - hence now I have ovulated probably no sex till next month ).

It's great DS is a good eater, DD eats like a sparrow, I don't know how she survives, but then I was like that as a child (though clearly make up for it now - 2 tubs of Hagan Daaz this week, for medicinal purposes though!)

I must have missed that you were having another boy Fury. Do you have names in mind? It's have to be something good to match DS1's name

Thanks for the tip on OPCs Ria

Daisy, hope you got a good night's sleep.

Natty, hope all is well with you.

Hope Jammy's family picnic has still managed to go ahead despite the weather.

Interested to read all this stuff about grandparents etc. My Nan is still alive (maternal) but thanks to a family feud she will not talk to DS, and will never meet DS2 when he is born.

In fact, due to estrangement/fueds, DS's will never meet their extended family.

Cousins/aunts/uncles yes, but anything beyond that no. As far as I am concerned they do not exist anyway so no great loss.

This morning DS ate:
1 slice toast
1/3 tin of beans
1 scrambled egg
1 slice bacon
1 sausage

I think he has been taking 'the very hungry caterpillar' a little too literally.

Bumper you don't do things by halves, do you?

I'm not sure why I'm still up. Dh is in the littlies room tonight trying to deflect bumble from having a nightime feed <bored of this malarkey> and I stupidly agreed to him having a lie in for his pains...where's my lie in for being up half the night?

off to order bathroom suites and tiles tomorrow.....cue grumpy fractious children <sigh>

well, that's all I hear Ria

BTW bumper, it is perfectly normal (IME) to be not very keen on OPC. (or your own at times...)

I could have done with sending DH off cooking tonight (he has been arsey all day on and off) instead I took DS2 and baggins for a walk after Total Wipeout (DS1 stayed and watched TopGear with Daddy. the shouting I don't knowe about I can't do anything about). I did jokingly ask DH yesterday if he could take 7 weeks off being grumpy. He said no (I hope he was joking too)

LOL at "one for the team" bumper. sorry you were too poor;y to make your famly gathering though (although at least youu don't have to have silent sex in the living room or anything)

your family do sounds lovely jammy.

DH has been counselling pissed up and depressed friend onFB tonight (hence my absence from MN, that and DCs not sleeping) friend wants to get back with ex-w, Dh says he is "doing a Peter Andre" (she did stuff too, but I took the blame for the kids sake...) sadly DH knows too much about trying to get back with ex.

am glad for you daisy that your DH is only rabbiting on about sheds, fishing and stuff.

sorry you had to miss the family party bumper but PMSL at the image of you bullying your poor DH into sex: "You will have sex and you will enjoy it...or else" And you seemed so mild and meek when I met you

when can you test? you will, of course, keep us in the loop <hard stare>

bumble is feeding like a newborn again as well as eating everything that comes within grabbing distance, whether it's edible or not! I am fooking knackered and my boobs are like pitta breads. Is there an 8.5mo old growth spurt?

I was supposed to be at a family party today but we were all to ill to travel all that way. V pissed off to miss it, and a weekend by the beach

I'd better fricking be pregnant to make up for it, but given that I have had tonsilitis and DH has man swine flu it's unlikely. I did pretty much force him to do it yesterday, told him I'd done it all week feeling shit, time to take one for the team.

Oh god, I don't even know why I want another baby, I'm really shite at this and don't like children very much!

Ok, I'm exaggerating, but I don't much like other people's. And I HATE being pg and will probably need birth trauma counselling.

ah, but natty, I have a career that I can't afford to go back to because of prohibitive childcare costs. If I had had the DC and then got the career it would have been easier as I would have had subsidised childcare as would have been earning less and by the time I was earning more they would have been at school, so only wrap around care to consider.

Anyhoo, enough of my regrets.....I love it all really and hated my job (as well as being a bit shit at it) so it's no great loss to humanity!

I sent DH off fishing tonight so I could get some P&Q and not have him wittering on at me about fishing/packaging/sheds.

Speaking of families, we are off for a family picnic tomorrow. My Mum's extended family got fed up only meeting at funerals so about 10 years ago they started having an annual picnic in July, hiring the village hall at a village in Suffolk (where my Gran and Grandad lived) for the day and all meeting up there. I haven't seen any of my Mum's siblings since having Jamlet so it will lovely to introduce her to them

dont regret having them later, you have stable jobs/homes/incomes etc, you can drive, you have more patience and life experiance. plus u got to have fun in ur 20's, by the time i am free enough to go out clubbing 4 nights a week i will be too wrinkly
there are good points and bad points either way.


ellen is in a big single bed now, tom and ellen have bunk beds that seperate as it was cheaper then 2 singles, and thinking for the future cos u couldnt fit another bed in the room atm. (the cot only JUST fit in there as it was)

my nanny loved him, bless her. only thing that annoyed me about the day is my mum telling her the best thing to buy for charlie is some nappies as he has loads of clothes and doesnt need toys.
um... my mum KNOWS we use cloth cos she doesnt approve...
nan was a bit put out when she saw he was in cloth today cos she knew we prob wont use them. i reassured her they would get used up as we had them, and DH is lazy so would always reach for them first

I'm glad I had my kids young, means I have plenty of time to have more! I think my mum was 35 when she had my, my gran didn't get married til she was in her 30s, so I expect she was nearly 70 when I was born(can't work it out), she was 93 when she died though, and got to see DS1&2, so I'm glad we had that

the sun is out at last

good bargains norty. we need to do shoe shopping soon I suppose, but bagins illbe gutted that he can't wear crocsinwinter. DS2 has just shown me his trainers are falling apart. Also have to spend the summer trawling charity shops & boot sales to get "old" clothes for DS1s trip

My DD is in a bed (a 3ft single) and is very good. She hasn't got out.....yet! We do have a bedguard up as well!

Went to Next today and spent £125 on clothes for DCs....got DS most of his clothes for the next year, and tons of 3-4 stuff for DD. All half price so was very .

Then went a got her feet measured in Clarkes - 6 and a half (her shoes are a 5 , so got a new pair of trainers and a pair of shoes, both reduced from £24 to £8 - bargain!

My DCs don't have any grandad's (and one nanny who doesn't give a shit). Both my dad and Dhs would've loved them tp pieces . My mum had me at 19, but I was having too much fun then!

all three kids in bed
off to catch up

DD was in a bed.....and is now back in a cot since she wouldn't stay in the bed and we had to slide her sleeping wee self across the floor with the door to get in the bedroom a few times, bless.

Not sure when she will be trusted back in a bed.....when she realises she can climb out I suppose.

My big regret is not having children earlier as my DC don't have any maternal GPs . also, if they leave it till my agre before having kids, I'll be in my 70s before I get my first grandchild.

DS has been in a bed for about 4-5 months now.

Since he started learning to climb out.

He's in the bed bit of the cot bed but he'll have a proper single by the end of the year (as we will need the cotbed for DS2).

That is assuming we don't kill DS1 before bedtime tonight.

Jamlet still in a cot Bumper, but we are thinking of getting her a bed by the end of the year.

So are all yours in beds then?

On the subject of Grandparents, my parent are both 49 or on the cusp of 49. My grandparents (mum's side) would only have been early 70s but they died in their early 50s so you can't guarantee anything.

DH's mum is 80, but he, at 43 is the youngest of 6 and I am the eldest of 5. My littlest bro is 11 and DH's eldest is 60 odd.

And in our family is was a case of my Dad being the last of 3, then me the last of his 3. And of course I've waited quite late to have Jamlet...

yes, all the women in my family have had their kids young, my nan was 18 my mum 20 and i was 19, so as u can imagine everyone is quite young, and providing my kids have theirs young my nan should live to see her great great grankids too.

but then we are all broke...

That is nice Natty

My nan would have been in her early 70s when I was born (I can't remember the exact year, but she was born in the last few years of the 1800s, doesn't that sounds so far away ), so there wasn't much chance of her seeing my children. Similarly, my parents are in their early 70s now. I just hope they live as long and as healthily as my grandparents did, so that Jamlet gets to build up a good set of memories.

ria

there lots of drawbacks to having kids very young, but one of the benefits is the kids granparents (and some great granparents) are all still young fit and healthy.

my greatnan is still about, so that she is the kids great great gran fancy being that great

natty. have a nice day. I wish my gran had met baggins

hey jammy

ive got my nan coming over today, she lives in portsmouth so we dont see her much. will be nice to show her the new arrival

wish i wasnt so big still tho lol pictures will last a lifetime!

Sorry about your skin Natty

very bumper that dd is still in a cot, ellen wouldnt have none of it! must be useful to be able to contain her!

bad night here, second in a row, my supply really suffered for the two days of expressing on one side, and charlie is constantly feeding all night. i am V. V. tired.

charlie got his rattle this morning, thanks guys, very intrigued as to what my surprise is

i have come out in the most awful rash today, had a bath after DH and didnt rinse it out properly and DH uses lynx shower gel. damn my sensitive skin, its really sore now

Ria,

MSG causes headaches (and swelling). Might be worth finding a chinese that doesn't use MSG.

Bumper is DD still in a cot? You are lucky, DS learnt to climb out.

Jammy we have this book which DD loves to do.

We still have dummies here, but only for in the cot. Occasionally DD will ask to go in the cot just so she can have her dummies. Fair play I think if she is playing happily in there!

jammy, bless her.

DH and DS1 still in bed here. I have a headache (had chinese takeaway last night, Dsis always gets a headache after chinese too). baggins and DS2 have had a fight already, baggins hs propped the trampoline up on the sofa and is driving cars down it then sliding down after them. Suppose I should feed them, then I have to go to the shp for brown paper and tape and do some ebay parcelling. The I have to buy stuff on ebay, and then find more stuff to list

we were going to the RSPB reserve to look at the puffins, but it's foggy so not much point. I do have to go to Morrisons to buy the stuff Tesco didn't have.

exciting day!

Jamlet is sitting in her chair in the litchen watching DH make latte and toast for his breakfast. I can hear him giving her a running commentry. "The hot water is forced through the coffee in here and comes out into these tiny cups" etc I felt obliged to go give her a "good listener" sticker from her Waybuloo magazine

Speaking of which she is really cute when she tries to copy the yoga on Waybuloo

Not sure hubby is into tea parties and INTG aquadraw mats but I know he won't say no to cake and BJ's

you can make him a cake and have a tea party fury?

pah to getting wet, we avoided it (thanks to my dad

DS2s prezzies of terracotta pts painted pael grren with green beads glued round the rim and borage plants in the went down well. His TA was a bit teary today.
DS1 bought his favourtie teacher (an ex-marine supply teacher) a rosette with Worlds Best Teacher on it (from the show. I think he was touched too.

Tesco have ITNG aquadraw mats for under £4.

DS1 gone swimming with youth club.

Yeah DS let himself out the front door.

Bless him.

Usually he is a delight... well ok, not THAT great but he is usually pretty good!

He is being a superstar now as well. wonder what caused the meltdown. Odd child.

It's DH's B'day on Sunday but nothing has arrived thanks to postal strikes, poor bastard, and I haven't got him anything since we have no money.

We had one of the boys at Jamlet's party keep coming into the house on his own and trashing playing with her toys. At one point he even let himself out of the front door and almost got onto the road before I spotted him . On that day I disliked him intensely (and his mother who didn't seem to care) but they were round here yesterday (they called to drop off some bits and I invited them in) and all was well, so there is hope yet Fury

Thanks Daisy

Nope, not been invited back, but we have to go back anyway as I left something there!

It's not like him, usually he is really good, but for some reason he saw fit to trash everything. He did say thank you though

There was a woman there with a baby all drooly and babyish and I asked how old he was... she said 'oh I always get asked that because he's so big for his age! He's only 15 months!'

I had a big face because I honestly though he was about 6 months, he was in a babygro and chewing fists and no hair etc. I am not sure if she noticed... all up, not a good day for making friends and influencing people

oh dear fury.....have you been invited back?

For Jammy

I had to hunt google for a picture that didn't involve Americans breeding them for other Americans to just shoot them .

glad you had a good time Jammy. We went to a coffee morning at someone's house and DS went on to totally trash the joint. Not like him...sigh

Sorry, Natty, I hope I didn't sound bossy there! And it's great that you are getting good support from your local team.

WE got thoroughly soaked on the school run, but DD wore her souwester and wellies and splashed in puddles all the way there. bumble was under the raincover, but when I took him out the pram his socks were wet . Not sure how that happened!

DS1 made the Wall of Fame and got the last Headteacher's award of the year ....myabe thie wine and chocolate were the right presents after all

Sorry you've had such a stressy day Natty. I would also recommend a decent thermometer. We got one of the ear ones and although it wasn't cheap we wouldn't be without it. And as has been said, although it is worrying with Charlie being so young, the symptoms of swine flu don't tend to be so bad. So don't let the "swine" bit scare you - it's just a variation of flu. And if he is ill, swine flu, normal flu or otherwise, with him being so young you will get priority treatment and they will take you seriously if you ring your GP concerned about fever or whatever.

We went to the children's centre and I got soaked on the way there. They had to find me ablanket to wear while me skirt hung up to dry! We were the only ones there though, so it didn't matter that I looked a little odd. And Jamlet made a lovely butterfly picture, sticking bits of card and paper etc onto a butterfly shaped piece of paper. She was really getting the hang of putting the glue on the bits and sticking them to the paper

yes dummy is not given often at all, but for the few days when i was needing to express of one side it was useful for keeping him from screaming the place down while i expressed his feed.

the lady from the breastfeeding group rang me to check on me going again next week to double check latch is still right.

I hoope they're all well natty; as Norty said, 38 is fine, but anything over that is a fever. From what's been going on round here, the illness itself isn't actually that bad, although obviously Charlie being so young means it's a big worry.

Can I say though, that Charlie having a dummy so young might be adding to your recent BF worries as the way they suck on a dummy is different to the suckling needed to get milk. Also at this young age, any sucking they want to be doing is generally because they want and need milk and giving them a dummy means they might not get all the milk they need and your body needs to produce to get BFing established. I would try and hold off giving him a dummy until BFing has been going well for a good few weeks.

It is worrying Natty, but you just need to be prepared. You should get a decent thermometer - I have one that pops in their ear which doesn't even disturb them when asleep. And stock up on calpol and neurofen. And as soon as they get a fever, ring the GP - you won't need an appointment - they'll ring you and do most of it over the phone.

Glad he's ok.

Onthat e-mail I put in earlier, there is a hotline number and web address for more info.

temp gone down to 37..
we have decided not to go in, but DH is coming home now. he seems fine again so i dont really know what that was about, or if it was a dodgy result on the thermometer.

i hate all this swine flu stuff, makes me all paranoid and panicky.

ive got to go a&e, docs got no appointments, and a recent swab of my stitches is showing GBS, so ive got to go have him checked. his temp is now 38.5, so as its steadliy rising and he is off his feeds as well they have told me to go in.

will be on later to let you know.

mine obsessed with that show too!!

That's good Natty - no temp, no flu! Perhaps she's got tummy ache or something.

My DD refused to go down for a morning nap (because Show Me, Show me was on) so I'm looking forward to a quiet couple of hours when she's in bed after lunch

yes up until last week we had, but the last week shes been refusing to go to bed without one (most likely cos charlie has one at night) i am to shattered to care to be honest i just want her to go bed so i can

no temp in dd, i can tell by feeling her she is always VERY hot if she gets one.

doodle do is on daisy

Anything up to 38 is fine Natty. What is DDs temperature? I thought you'd got rid of dummies? I wish I could (although its only a night thing here now)

Hope DD is ok Daisy....there is loads of it around here now, and tbh I'm resigned to the fact we'll all get it, but as long as I get anti-virals for the 2 DCs (which I would), I'm ok about it. Have a digital thermometer, loads of calpol and neurofen and plenty of stuff for me and DH. My only concern really is being ill at the same time as the DCs as I don't have anyone to call on.

does anyone know what a temp in a newborn is? his temp atm is 37.5-38 (checking every half hour or so) his normal temp is 37 (was monitering it for the gbs)

ellen has just told me she is poorly, and is curled up next to me with her dummy (which she never asks for during the day) she is asking for medicine

Natty, there is some information on the NCT website and the BfN website about swine flu and breastfeeding and antivirals.

Just be vigilant and make sure you're scrupulous about handwashing etc. I'd also not let anyone pick the baby up until they have washed their hands and used some anti-bac gel. I don't normally worry about stuff like that, but with this flu around I think it's fine to be extra cautious.

lol at educated tramps! I watched a programme that showed that a lot of tramps are people that are highly intelligent, but who just couldn't cope with life sochoose to drop out.

Had to come home early from stay and play. DD is not right at all. she has a bit of a temp and a runny nose and is super sensitive. She was hiding behind me when passing people in the street this morning, and crying if anyone so much as looked at her. Very odd and out of character. I hope it isn't swine flu....there are more cases at school now, including some children that we were mixing with last weekend.

ive got a bunch of those hospital ones you use once and chuck.
i know im BU but im really annoyed dh has gone out still, esp as i was up all night with ds2.

Naaty, all NHS staff have just received an e-mail about the flu as they are setting up a new pandemic service next week. In amongst it all it says:

It remains the case that those people identified as being at greater risk of serious complications, including all children under one year old, will be advised to contact their GP.


In the meantime, if you are concerned that a friend, relative or colleague has swine flu, you should advise them to:


· Stay at home

· Check their symptoms as soon as possible on www.nhs.uk or

· Call the Swine Flu Information Line on 0800 1 513513 to hear the latest advice

· If they have taken these steps and are still concerned, call NHS Direct or their GP for advice on next steps, so that their GP can prescribe antivirals if necessary, ideally within 48 hours of the onset of symptoms and

· Advise them not to go to A&E unless they are seriously ill.


If you do experience symptoms, you can help yourself by staying at home, following the advice above, resting, drinking plenty of fluids and taking over the counter flu remedies to relieve symptoms. If your condition worsens you should contact your GP.

A sustained temperature of 38 or more will mean you need to ring the GP - but you would anyway. Have you got a thermometer?

Don't panic. You will be priotised if there are any problems.

did your friend mention to the hospital they had had contact with a new baby and a high-risk adult?

apparently they are not even testing for it, they are just treating all flu as swine flu. so i dont have a clue, and wont know if it is or isnt.
i bet all three of them come down with it while dh is out today.
feeling guilty cos the mum told us her DD had a cold and didnt want to infect us, but i said "oh its only a cold!"
now ive potentially made my family very sick, and DH is one of the very high risk groups as he has liver/kidney/blood pressure problems PLUS he is ashmatic

everything very subdued at school still, and the poor reception kids have to go to the hour-long assembly this afternoon as a mark of respect. it does make you want to hug your own kids very tight. I will be haunted by the child cheeky face for a while too.

Iagree natty. try not to panic (difficult I know). make yourself aware of the symptoms so you know what to look for, and keep an eye out. presumably if it is swine flu it will get confirmed as a case, so your fiend will be able to let you know? If it gets confirmed, maybe then contact your GP.

really grim, grey and raining here.

want buttery toast.

It is so bloody dark here . I cam hardly see the keyboard - only can see it at all from the light of the laptop screen.

flappy me?

That's the one Fury. And no I'm not saying you're a tramp, but your mention of one made me think of it, that's all

Natty, I know you must be worried, but try not to panic. If he has picked it up, he has, you can't change that now. but he might not have done. So just keep calm and keep an eye on things. DO call your GP if you think he is becoming unwell. But until then he needs a calm mummy not a flappy one!

lol fury @ those tshirts!
trying not to panic, but on own today so cant give him 100% attention

Jammy are you confirming I am a tramp?

Was your DH's T-Shirt the 'Something, Somewhere, went terribly wrong' one?
Seems to be popular in nerd circles.

My DH has one that says 'go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script'. He doesn't like wearing it though as people keep asking him what it means.

When I was in China I had a series of t-shirts with mandarin on them saying:
'I don't know'
'I don't understand'
'I have no money'.

Don't panic Natty
Just keep a close eye on him and check temps regularly

Remember he has increased immune system for a bit, plus you are BF'ing, there is nothing more you can do so don't panic, just keep a close eye.

fuck
one of DHs friend kids who was here day before yesterday has been told she might have swine flu, has been in a&e all night and been given the anti viral.

what do i do now? panic? ds2 is only a week old.

Speaking of tramps Fury, we were walking along the river on the way into Oxford last weekend and a tramp started talking to DH and pointing as his tshirt. The tshirt has a series of picture showing typical evolutionary stages from ape to upright man, then slumping back down into an ape like pose in front of a PC. The tramp kept pointing to it and slurring "Darwinian fan". "Ah," says DH, you even get better educated tramps in Oxford!"

lucky you Natty, good work!

I am going to a mums house for a coffee morning. We haven't met and I am looking pretty...interesting... these days. I wonder if I'll get turned away at the door as they might confuse me with a very overweight bloated tramp.

evening!
i got M&B stuff today too bit [shocked] at one of them, its a pump worth £250

great day here, DH even went shop and left me with all three DC and the house was still standing when he got back.

he is leaving me alone with them ALL DAY tomorrow as he ahs to pop into uni.. scary!!

about child that died, makes u think doesnt it.

is it wrong that im sitting here feeling sad that DS2 may be my last baby, and i really want another??

Mmmm, that well known python fish

That would really have freaked me out Daisy. I used to live in Horsforth btw.

daisy. where I used to work we once had a python asleep in one of the fleeces in the shop, and nasty insect things in the cafe - it was next door to an aquarium.

OMG Ria . The poor family. How do you get over something like that?

Jammy, after your horrors yesterday with Our Planet, you would be mortified with the story in the local paper about a couple finding a tarantula in woods in Horsforth . They think it's an escaped pet, and it took a posse from the pub (where they fled to safetly, lol) to track it down!

sorry, that was misleadng. It didn't happen at school. Apparently they died of an asthma attack last night (according to my friend who was in school helping this morning). DS2 brought a letter home and the disco was cancelld, DS1s school were having special "grief" sessions with the year mentor (siblings at that school). Child was 10/11. It is very

What happened Ria?

Ria why? what happened?

lol jammy. I'm sure Mr Bumper will be chuffed with your thoughts!
must put these kids to bed, only 1 more day to be late!

a child at DS2s school died today

21st August. But I suppose in theory it could be anytime.

Remind me Fury, when's your due date?

Driving in London is easy as long as you are a bit bolshy.
Rome looks worse!

I am happy to meet up subject to birthing
Would also prefer to drive, simply because I am too huge and SPD-like to like the pram on buses/tubes.

We are moving last week of august, as DD starts new school 3rd september.
We still have to paint the flat and assemble all the furniture (which we still have to buy half of).
Driving in Rome is chaos! <quivers>

Oh dear, the rude part of my brain read Daisy's last post and thought "well yes, there will be something big up Bumper"

Sorry Bumper! Sorry Mr Bumper!

see....you had already answered by the time I got to post the question I started asking half an hour ago!

I did skincare last year Jammy.....we are still using up some of it as we got the whole Halos and Horns, Beaming baby organic and J&J bedtime ranges, and some Avent stuff as well

...for M&B obviously!

and hello! I have lurked but not posted today as one or other of my DC has been demanding attention, but I forgot that for a minute.

Big up bumper for your TTC efforts

I'm doing weaning and bottle feeding. Got a few sterilizers coming my way!

Holly - I'll also be interested in any group 1 car seats you've got going after the testing. DS is nearly 19lb now and too bloody heavy to carry around in his car seat.

Where is Bracknell Jammy? I'm about 25-30 mins from the southern part of the M25. I have to say the thought of 2 kids, all the crap I'd have to take, a double buggy and public transport terrifies me. I can cope with a car, but not a train / bus / tube. .

Whe are you moving Sputnik? Driving in london is fine - as long as you know which lane you want to be in, and don't take any shit off of anyone else (although I did have someone jump out of his car once and thump on my windscreen after I called him a fucking wanker.....I only do that when I'm moving these days - never in a traffic jam )

Yes, I just realised that I had assumed driving = not London as I wouldn't want to drive in London either.

Skincare Daisy.

Well done with the dentist Norty. It's funny, everyone has their things: I've no problem with dentists at all but the thought of driving in London gives me the heebie jeebies.

Mind you I am going to have to confront the reality of driving in Rome very soon, hope someone will give me a sticker.

what you doing Norty and Jammy?

Could you drive to the bracknell place Norty (trying to remember where you're based but brain failing due to lack of lunch)?

I got some M&B testing too

Hello

Had a mad couple of days. Went to the dentist and survived. DD was brilliant, sat in the "magic chair" by herself and opened her mouth and allowed him to put the mirror in her mouth. She was a bit about it all but cheered up when she got a sticker (from him) and a new book (from me) for being good. I deserved a G&T for keeping (relatively) calm throughout.

Done rather a lot of shopping as well....not a great idea when all I'm earning atm is SMP only. Ah well....DS gone up to 6-9 month size so that was my excuse. Yesterday he'd puked down every outfit I'd taken out and marched him across town in a vest only (and it was CHILLY) to BHS to buy a new outfit to save me going home. Even then he came home in one of his 3 year old cousins T-shirts cos he'd puked over his new outfit as well!

Good luck with the TTC Bumper....blimey, I'm far to knackered for all that sort of thing in the mornings these days!

Much as I'd love a meet-up, I think my nerves would only let me do something I could drive to. Still waiting for another surgery date which will hopefully be in August sometime as well.

Had loads of washing today and I just couldn't be bothered to spend ages hanging it all outside (I am very fussy about the way I hang things), so just bunged it in the dryer....lazy or what (mustn't tell DH, he'll go nuts about electric bill!). Its lovely weather as well, but sod it!

Jammy - 65 meals . I've got a huge chest freezer but haven't got that amount. Its currently full of bread and ice-cream. When I had that huge clear-out the other week and had to sling loads of stuff, I actually made a list of what I've got . Can't reach some of it though without almost climbing in - even with steps!

Got 2 lots of M&B testing - YAY!

Phew - long post for me!

There must be something in the air Sputnik. A friend brought some tops round to give to Jamlet, and her DS and Jamlet played for a whole half hour without squabbling!

I am here, it's really hot.
My children are sitting quietly on the floor, playing together with blocks!!! What the hell is going on? I'll be baking cupcakes in my Cath Kidson pinny next.

where are you all today? anyone would have thought it was a weekend!

Bumper

Jammy, I'd be up for a meet-up. I could get to either of those places

wasn't there a thread a while back about tubes of smarties and Saturday morning cartoons? not at all bumper. you go girl!

thanks daisy. I dn't know what it was now, and the balloon things have gone - last night there was a yellow shieldy thing with an exclamation mark came up and said malicious software had been removed, so maybe it's better?

yay for sleep natty, and the contents of your freezer jammy.

about meet-up.

What can I say, I'm tenacious! Believe me only the desire to TTC and the obsessive need to do it within my time scale would make me do it under these circumstance. Normally it would be a good excuse not to!

Glad you got a decent sleep Natty.

me me!!

OK, would anyone be interested in meeting up in August? I can only do Weds/Thurs/Fri and I'd prefer the 5th, 6th, 7th, 12th, 14th, 21st or 27th. I'd really rather avoid the 13th, 19th, 20th, 26th and 28th.

And while I'm putting in my personal preferences I would love to go here or as we had such a good time at the science museum recently I'd be very happy to go there, or also in central London we want to go here.

Any takers?

I'm not about the laptop Bumper. I am about TTC with tonsilitis! Heck, I didn't even have tonsilitis and there is no way I could have contemplated doing that the other week. You're obviously made of stronger stuff!!

yay for sleep Natty

I've just audited my freezer, and I reckon we have 65 main meals for 2 people in there And yes, all bought at reduced to clear prices! Plus there is a selection of frozen veg, some ice cream things, some frozen fruit and some jamlet sized bits stashed away!

LMAO bumper.. we do that regulary here and we are not even TTC!

good luck with it this month i remember how stressful it all can be x

well WHAT a night here folks, both toddlers down and ASLEEP by 8pm, and charlie in bed and ASLEEP by 10pm..

no one woke up till 4am

ive had like 5 hours uninterupted sleep

Thanks for the link daisy btw. Can you get crochet patterns?

That's not sad daisy, I've booked Friday off work so I can go to my knitting group! DD seems ok this morning so fingers crossed she can go to nursery tomorrow.

I don't think it is nursery daisy as she only goes one day a week, and isn't sick straight after - usually on the days before she has to go

Anyway, you can go ahead and give me today's bad mother of the day award. AS you know we are TTC, but events are conspiring against us what with my tonsititis and the fact that we are going away to stay with family this weekend and I'm pretty sure that is when I am ovulating. So this morning we put DD in her cot with the laptop on the chest of drawers with winne the pooh while had a quite go at TTC. That's really bad right?

Ria that looks really exciting, hope DS1 is ok. All the excitement of his day perhaps?

Bumper.....an example of the stuff I get sent from Knitting Daily. Seems right up your street!

I have found a knitting circle nearby...is that too sad?

bumper, sorry about DD's sick bug. All I can think is that it's a nursery thing. I seem to remember DS1 getting everything going after he started nursery. Maybe have a word with her nursery about their hygiene practices?

I've been doing more ebay listings tonight. It is still a novelty and hasn't reached boredome proportions yet!

Ria, sorry about your virus....will your AV software not sort it? Do you know the name of it? I had one of the big viruses a few years ago and had to jump through hoops to get it off the machine as everytime I tried to read what to do it would just shut down randomly.....took me ages to read the "cure". If you know it's name, text me, I'll look up the solution and call you back with it if you like!

Will try that tomorrow Ria, I am too tired to do it now.

can you complain and get your money back jammy?

must go to bed, sore eyes, feel sick, DS1 also feeling sick

night all.

here bumper. I went when I was at scool and it was fab. I want to go again. I really fancy doing something a bit different that doesn't involve fretting about the kids/house/DH/work etc. The teacher's enthusiasm was catching too. DH has been invited (as a governor) to go onthe primary school trip to one of the other centres on that link. Maybe when baggins is older I will try and get invoved in volunteering at something like that, I'm sure I could swing a trip with the primary school too - not on the same one as DH though

hope you get some sleep.

DH has finally texted to say he's arrived safe (not that he said that, just that he's got a nice double bed to himself) so I think I'll go to bed too, tomorrow will be another long day.

Arse! I ideally want a strapless bra to wear with this dress. M&S didn't have one in my size on Saturday, so I came home and ordered one online. While I was ordering that I added some tights to the basket. Yesterday had an email saying the order was dispatched , but didn't read the actual email at the time, so didn't notice it was only the tights. Today got an email telling me the bra is no longer available, so I've ended up paying £2.34 delivery charge and all for a pair of tights

Is it a residential Ria? Scary stuff! Where's he going?

Thanks for all the sympathy, I'm off to bed, hopefully I can get a proper nights sleep for the first time this week.

local council run adult learning things are usually fairly cheap/free on benefits. Though the ones I've been on (one at the childrens centre and a couple through the primary school) have been delivered as if the peope attending have no concept of "knowledge" (I know that is a BAD thing to say, and I'm sure childrens centres are lovely - are they all frequented by mainly childminers and their charges and hardly any parents? -, but just because I am a SAHM to 3 I am not an idiot - escept when I choose to be).Sorry. I think I had a bad experience.

My DH is in York until Friday. He got offered some shifts in a hotel there through his agency, and as it's easy work (he's been to this hotel before) he decided to take the cut in benefit and go. He did chooseto go straight after the meeting at school and leave it to me to tell the kids where he's gone

DS1 had a great time thanks bumper (I need a PFB slap). It didn't rain much either. He didn't eat all his food but he did spend all his money!
The meeting about his trip was excellent. I am I want to go too!

i agree daisy there must be something you can do. my DH says the same to me all the time, but i can never think of anything cheap/free. let me know if u think of something

yay for jamlet being a star for 5 hours, and for natty's BF.

hope swine flu doesn't spoil the wedding fairy, and that the GF sees sense and stays away.

for DD bumper.

arse to your DH daisy. I'm with you on no sympathy if he gets stung/bitten. can't think of a free night out for you though. could you sign up to a caft class or something in September?

fecking computer. the trojan messages have gone, but now it just shuts down when it feels like it (sorry to post and run earllier sputnik)

Hi Bumper.

Sorry to hear DD is poorly again. Real bummer that it's when you are porrly too If I can help, let me know!

Hi Natty!

Um, will you home on Monday morning? There might be something being delivered to you so I need to know you'll be in! <winks knowingly>

Hello all

Don't know what is wrong with DD, she was sick twice. That's the third sickness bug in as many months. Should I be worried?

Glad your boob is getting better Natty, hope you are doing ok.

Daisy, sorry DH is being a PITA. Hope you get a break soon.

Ria, how did DS get on on his trip?

evening all!

5 hours jammy bloody hell

good day here, went to a baby cafe to a breastfeeding clinic to have little man checked over.
his latch is 'perfect' he has no tounge tie, or any other problems.
she had no idea why i have been suffering with cracked nips, but she says thats its prob down to the fact i have very sensitive dry skin and that my nipples are made of that skin so more prone to drying out and cracking. spose there is logic in that.

sore boob has healed enough to feed from normally <<does a little dance>> no more 5am pumping sessions!

Boo hiss to tax bills and fishermen!

I couldn't quite believe it was 5 hours either. An hour or so travel each way (bus plus 20 min walk), 45 mins to kill between getting off bus and hospital appointment, an hour at the hospital, and another hour to kill before getting bus home - had just missed one, grrr . We went to the park in the first bit of time to kill, and we got Jamlet something to eat in the second bit. All in all she was a star!

bloody hell jammy, a five hour round trip

jamlet must have the patience of a saint! Good that things aren't too bad for her and fingers crossed things stay that way.

boo hisss to your tax bill fury!

to 5 hours. I'm glad things are ok, but good that they're keeping an eye on her (no pun intended)

Arse. Remote access to my work is buggered so I can't do my work. But it does mean I can do my own stuff on the 'puter!

Jamlet is the tiniest bit long sighted apparently, but not enough to prescribe glasses at this stage. But they are concerned about her eye turning in so will see us again in 3-4 months time. She was very good, but our appointment time was totally out of synch with the buses so it ended up as a 5 hour round trip

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr to Mr Daisy. Sounds nreasonable to me. Could you get a bottle of wine one night and go round to a friends' house, or invite someone round to yours - not as good as a night out, but a change of scenery. Or otherwise, how about the cinema - not free, but a cheap night out.

I hope the kids settle

I think she should stay away and stop stressing the poor bride about it. Can you have a quiet word?

My fecking children are up to their tricks again. I have just lost it with DD and smacked her leg; she was throwing toys across the room at bumble and got him screaming so I think something must have hit his cot and frightened him. I have been up to her every five minutes since she went to bed at 7.

And of course DH is bloody fishing again. He does bedtimes and I think he must be rushing it that much when he is going fishing to get out quicker, meaning that they don't settle as they must pick up on his "gotta get out of here vibe". I just called him and ranted at him for five minutes. I also told him that if he comes home with another nasty bite and cellulitis again then I have no fucking sympathy for him. He has been poo pooing the nappy advisor stuff I want to do as well, but fuck him I'm doing it. Ooooh, I'm soooo bloody cross. and at taking it out on DD.

He said I can go out whenever I want...but where? he repeatedly tells me we have no money, so what can I do that involves not spending any money? fuck all. Sitting beside a mozzie infested hole might be his idea of a cheap night out, but it certainly isn't mine.....

<and breathe>

sorry....needed a rant

bumble is asleep on the floor at my feet! DD is still awake.

Agh, I think I'm going to have to do a reading at the weding we're going to on Friday. The partner of the girl who's supposed to be doing it has Swine Flu.

The friend still wants to come but there are loads of high risk people going - elderly, serious asthmatic, 6 month old babies, pg ladies, etc so the bride thinks she's going to have to ask her not to come. What would you do?

I have to say, I think the friend is being a bit selfish - Today she's been constantly texting the bride with quotes from internet, etc saying that she's fine to go. the bride is very, very stressed. AIBU?

It's a virus, basically Ria. What does your PC say to do about it?

there is a rumour a litle girl in the village has swine flu, but she doesn't go to our school. Don't think shools should clse early here - not when they're having 7 weeks off anyway.

poor DD bumper (and poor you if you miss your day off)

how come even when DH doesn't have a proper job, he's still 2 hours late when we have a meeting at school? The place he's working the bar asked him to make some puddings today!

Our PC says we have a trojan - any ideas techhy folks?

Right well I'm off, see you later y'all

Poor DD Bumper, what's wrong with her?

DS managed to get HFM when I booked days off work, always the way isn't it.

Poor buggers.

I just did my tax return and owe £1500. Awesome.

On the plus side, I have almost packed my hospital bag. I swear I am forgetting something though.

Oh dear that wouldn't be good daisy (school closing early not swine flu!).

Bad news, DD is sick. DH is bringing her home from his mum's. I know I should be sympathetic but it always happens when I am fricking sick. And if she is sick tomorrow she won't be able to go to nursery on Friday. I was so looking forwarded to it - I booked the day off work!

ouch bumper, hope it gets better soon. Rest up and drink lots of fluids...and treat yourself to ice cream.

bugger, I missed doodle do. I'm very keen to see it now after the webchat last week.
bumble is inconsolable today, DD is still asleep and I need to leave in 10 mins for school, and DS1 hates me because I made him go to school this morning inspite of swine flu risk "Do you want me to DIE mum?"

School has confirmed 1 case in year 3 and 3 suspected in the nursery. I got a text saying another letter was coming out tonight; maybe they will shut up shop early for the summer?

right, off to school we go.

Tax returns suck cock

poor you bumper. hope you feel better soon.

DS1 has gone to the yorkshire show. we had to have him at school by 7am, and he should be back by 6pm (we then have a meeting about the residential trip in Sept at 7pm). My mum thinks it's hilarious how much food I put in his packed lunch, and the 2 foil-wrapped bacon butties for on the coach (if he's feeling mean or for when they arrived. It will be miserable if it's raining. I am though, I haven't been since I was his age. we might go to a small local show this year.

Bumper

Where's DS1 ria? (Sorry haven't read the thread). Just got back from docs, I do have tonsilitis, bleughhhhhh.

I'm watching Doodle Do and checking out Corky's erm, prit stick

oh, and counting down til DS1 comes home. Hope it's not raining in Harrogate.

I don't 35 weeks is too early. I had mine almost packed at 35 weeks.

I wasn't totally freaking out, but I was inwardly going "eeewww, taht is really gross." And I did feel a bit sick when I saw the (slow motion) shots of how they jump, with my brain going into overdrive imagining them leaping at me from all angles across the room . But I just sat there, watching with Jamlet, going "ooh, look at the spider, isn't that interesting." I don't think it helped me that she had been playing with the remote control and the volume was up at 66 (we normally have it on about 20 to watch TV or 24 if it's a really quiet DVD) when it came on so I got kind of thrown by the sheer volume of it.

We were about to go out when she gave an enormous eye rub and started wrapping a blanket around herself, so she is napping now. So I get to do some clearing up (oh joy!). Just need to check the forecast to see if it's indoors or out for the laundry.

good luck with eye test.

I am knackered.
Packing hospital bag today. Am 35 weeks - is that premature? I can't be bothered if I am honest, I am exhausted today!

Plus I need to do my tax return, urg.

Jammy did you honestly freak out at spiders on TV?

hope it goes well for Jamlet

bugger, was just typing a long post and the internet turned itself off. We need a PC doctor!

Jammy I know just how you feel. I tidied the toybox out last night (to find DFs shed keys which baggins stole and lost!), but now there's so much to tidy away to elsewhere. DH has finally pulled the cooker out for me to clean behind it this morning. no energy and no enthusiasm though.

OMFG just switched beebies on and it as Our Planet - featuring spiders . Really close up shots and about how far they can jump!!!! Big staring spider eyes peering at me [eeewww] But managed to contain my horror in an effort not to infect Jamlet.

Feeling wobbly here (even before the spiders). Place is a mess and it makes me feel so on edge and miserable all at the same time. I just want to curl up and forget it all, but I know it won't just go away. But with Jamlet here it's hard to concentrate enough on clearing up Doesn't help that I was pretty shoddy at taking my ADs for the past few weeks

Morning all. Jamlet still asleep but the cat woke me up instead.

Natty, my brain obviously isn't fully functional yet - I read "took thomas and ellen to a toddler group today" and thought My God! She left Charlie at home !!! I was so relieved to get to the end of your sentence!! Of course I knew you wouldn't just leave your wee man on his own, but my fuddled brain had visions of him swaddled nicely and left home alone while you all popped out to toddler group . Well done you though on getting out Glad it went well, sorry you're a bit sore as a result though.

OK, Make & Play for us this morning, and Jamlet's eye test this afternoon. See you later

daisy ellen has that EXACT same dress! same size and everything, she wore it to a birthday party

sorry you are all sickning.. fingers crossed we avoid any bugs for a few weeks till we are settled here!

<<sprays keyboard with dettol>>

my swaddler blanket thingy got covered in milk this morning (exploding boobs.. joy) so had to put it in wash.
cue screaming baby and panicked mummy so i went on utube and found a video of how to swaddle a baby with a normal blanket. well now i am totally converted, my god its changed my life litrally, no more whingy baby. (to be fair he is hungry alot due to the teething problems with bf)

took thomas and ellen to a toddler group today and met a few of my mummy friends down there. enjoyed showing off my little bundle.

all in all a good day, if i am bloody sore now for all the activity.

I don't think so Ria. We got a letter home yesterday (before the cases were confirmed) with general information about hygiene etc, but no mention of school closures. They handed out the same letter at the Childrens centre (they share a bulding) but told us there were 3 cases, then DS1's friend's mum told us that her friend called and her son who is in year 3 has it and that she had to take hime to the docs after surgery closed this afternoon and that when they got there, all other four cases were there too!

I think a lot of people are keeping their children at home for the last few days though. We're undecided. The school has a text alert thing going on, so maybe we'll get a text in the morning saying don't come in? DS1 is hoping so!

for all the swine flu

We have an unconfirmed case at Jamlet's nursery.

daisy,are they closing the school then?

ouch bumper; there is a really nasty throat lurgy doing the rounds. I had a bit of it last week and jammy had it a couple of weeks ago. Not tonsilitis though, even though white bits on tonsils.

There are now 5 cases of swine flu at the school and a doctor had to be called out to the school today.

Sorry for all illness, Sputnik, Bumper and anyone I've missed (sorry )

I emailed Thames Water today to ask to go visit a sewage treatment works. How exciting is my life?

hope not sputnik. don't want him to miss tomorrow.
yuk bumper, sounds like tonsils

God we are dropping like flies!
Sounds like you need ABs Bumper.
Still feeling like crap here too but fever seems to have gone.

Done fairy.

Urgh I feel rubbish, not sure what the problem is but it started out with an ulcer on the back of my throat and now I have white patches. It feels like I am swallowing rocks. From my limited googling it looks like my tonsils. Feeling very sorry for myself.

Oh dear, has he got the flu then Ria?

DS1 is currently dosed up on ibuprofen, having a cool bath and then some calpol, then he's going to bed

I meant about the water, not selling stuff on ebay.

But speaking of entrpreneurs I just listed some Oilily stuff I found second hand on the market, we'll see how it goes!

I was looking on Italian ebay earlier, people are selling those super cheap Ikea coffee tables, the ones that cost about £5, doubling the price and adding as much for postage! There must be some idiots out there.

Ria, I bet that's how Richard Branson got started, go for it!

5.50, not bad. I quite like the feeling of getting rid of stuff and sending it off to a new life, as well as the making money part! I felt a bit sentimental about some of the old baby toys I just sold yesterday though, in the end the same person bought most of the cloth books though and I felt happier they were going off together!

I have this pair of size 10 Monsoon silk trousers I bought when I was about 10 weeks pg with DD, I knew at the time I was deluded.

I have bids o all my current listings. Need to find more stuff to sell...

yay, it sold for £5.50 finally . That was a gift as well Sputnik; I'm not in the habit of putting 3 months old babies in froo froo and frills!! She wore it for Christmas to the house of the person who gave it to us, and then to a wedding.

another couple of my things sold as well; time to do some more listings. I've decided I'm never going to fit back into the gorgeous Monsoon dress and jacket that has been hanging in my wardrobe for 10 years (worn twice) so I'm going to list that as well....and a load of maternity stuff. slowly, slowly we will emerge from the clutter.

sorry if I'm ignoring anything but no time to catch up now, will be back later.

I just wanted to nudge FOXY and BUMPER - you have facebook mail

still feeling rough here. though have just had a bacon sarnie and maybe feel a little better.

Have been to Tesco and am fretting about packed lunches for tomrrow/gtting up early tomorrow/geting DS1 to school on time. He is going on a school trip to the Yorkshire Show,they are leaving school at 7am. Can't decide how much food to pack him. Would it be wrong to let him take extra bottles of frozen water so he can sell the to his friends?

hope a last minute bidder turns up for you Daisy. I've had quite a lot of success selling cutesy dresses like that on Italian ebay. Mine were all unworn gifts from deluded relatives though.

Yay, courier here so I am free to go to baby group <wonders what life has come to that she is annoyed at not being able to go to baby group>

Am toying with being a nappy advisor again.....I'm soooo bloody bored being a SAHM.

aaargh there are three confirmed cases of swine flu at DS's scool and apparently 100 children have been sent home with flu like symptoms!

One of DS's mates mum's has just called me to say she is on her way to collect her DS as her old and frail mum lives with them and she doesn't want to risk her DS bringing it home. She said she's going to keep him off for the rest of the week now as well. Not sure if that's an over-reaction or not.

and why is it, whenever I have ordered a courier before, they have come in the morning, but today when I need to go out they aren't here yet?

<sobs> my beautiful wee outfit looks like it's only going to sell for 99p

aargh, the finster won't stop grumping this morning. Perhaps he is objecting to wearing camoflague trousers?

Natty the only reason I was wearing more than tshirt and pants at 8am this morning was that I was on the way to nursery/work Arse for you though that you're getting these hassles.

Oh I know Jamlet is almost certainly fine, just more towards the tail end of normal development. Seems we have a family traits of being late-talkers-then-never-shut-uppers She is getting more communicative and more vocal, though still only using a limited number of words (yeah, mummy, dada, look, more (uses more for again as well), door, there, and an attempt at cat). But she makes herself known through signing and pointing and pulling us about etc. So why should be bother really?

got ur parcel daisy thank you!
def sell the pram if you can, dont wait for me in the mean time, i dont really know whats going to happen here finacially, we may well be this broke until september and its a but unfair making you wait that long if thats the case.
sorry to be a pain, these random bills keep apearing that have to be paid. we had someone on our doorstep this morning from croydon council! demanding money that we didnt owe them as i had a letter from THEM stating the money wasnt owed and that it was a mistake!
poor bloke looked ever so flustered when i appeared in a tshirt and pants and a baby attached to my chest, but come on it was 8am!

My DS1 went through a stage of only eating tins of beans and sausages for lunch at nursery (you know the ones, with the characters on the labels <shudders>...went on for about six months!! He lived and is healthy as you like now...and the other week professed NOT to like tins of sausages and beans. Point being it won't kill them if they have them occasionally and certainly won't kill them if they have them more often than occasionally.

Jammy, I didn't say much until I was about three.....and then I didn't stop talking until...well I haven't yet

I use value ready meals all the time when I am in a hurry or DS is demanding something hot and we're only having toast.
They have less crap in them than the full price ones.
And I get them from the reduced counter too <evil cackle>

I prefer the Sainsbo Basics salmon pie over the Annabel Karmel one any day, it's nicer and has more fish in it...!
Annabel Karmel is like £2-£3, Sainsbos basics one from reduced counter 50p.

Holly I would go ballistic at 14 year old sharing a room too.
Wrong wrong wrong

I am off to heave my bulk into the shower, then I am off out to get a pedicure (I can't reach my feet any more and they are minging), then on to Westfield for my leaving do! A bit belated but everyone was on holiday the week I left!
Have a nice day y'all

Jammy my DS isn't talking either, the sum of his vocabulary is "bye", "two" and something that vaguely sounds like "cat". In the last couple of weeks he has started copying sounds more so maybe he's almost there. DD was exactly the same, but once she got going she caught up really fast and now we can't shut her up.

God I feel crap this morning, waiting for the paracetamol to kick in.

am taking my germs away. hope we all get a good nights rest.

not yet natty. but it is hard seeing them next to a baby. DS2 seemed so little until baggins arrived. glad he had a good time though, and now it's happened once...

natty, even my mum uses ready meals (I suppose she did so much "farmers wife" cooking having Dsis's when they first married, then having me 14 yrs later - that's a hell of a lot of "proper" cooking, that she's sick of it now. And if it's good enough for DM. So long as you're all getting something to eat, that's the main thing, and you can add frozen veg/salad etc.

DS1 said he used "prawn" because DS2 was there

LOL at President Evil!

jammy she will get there, thomas was a late talker too, now he wont shut up

tom went on a play date for the first time today, and i burst into tears! just seeing him go off happy and doing something so grown up. that and his nursery trial day this week, and he has been dry at night 3 days in a row. he is getting so big, and next to little charlie as well.

he'll be leaving home soon...

thanks ria and holly nice to know im not the only resorting to ready meals lol

ive never been able to express before, i have a fantastic pump thats all i can say!
got 2 lots of 3 oz out today, crack is getting there, im hoping i wont have to do this for long tho, its time consuming to pump then feed when i want to just pop him on!

no parcel today daisy hope it comes tomorrow.

Wish Jamlet would say things so that she could mispronounce them

Just had a nice meal out with friends - me and some friends that is. DH was home. All full up on all-you-can-eat Chinese now and half a bottle of wine

at prawn sites.

I love the DC's mispronunciation of things. Ds1 is annoyed that we won't let him watch President Evil at his mates house

ria, your DH isn't wrong about the packaging thing!!

Just realised my 14 is equally relevant to carseats and underage girlfriends. I would put my foot down about it as well holly; tell him you don't want his DS breaking the law in your house...and remind him he has a daughter!

LOL at prawn sites.
Ria makes a good point about 14 and 17 year olds, remind him he has a daughter!

obviously that said "no hun" rather than "ho hum".

talking of sex, DS1 was funny today. Our PC is ill, and I was telling him not to open anything on the 'net that he wasn't sure of because it might be dodgy. He asked if I meant "ladies", I said not always, but maybe, and he said it was OK, he knew about "prawn" sites - someone at school had told him a list to look at but he wasn't interested! Bless him. (although then we ended up having a conversation in the street about whether Noel Coward was "queer" or not. DS1 doesn't think the term "gay" is respectful!)

no hum here. The one I just sold cost me about £22 on ebay & a new raincover. wouldn't want to be ripping people off! (they know where I live) Am happy to have space back I suppose.

Holly, I would stick to your guns (I hate that expression, but don't know what else to put) on that one. It's your house too. I remember only too well being 14/15 with a 17yo boyfriend. Rermind DP he has a DD who will be that age one day! and if you have to ask how he would feel if her BFs dad let them share a room!!!

Re value lasagne, did I tell you when we went camping we had alpha dads as neighbours? I don't think they had ever seen a blue and white striped product in their lifes ("oh we eat organic sausages"), have to say I never expected to feel lie the poor relation on a camp site! DHs opinion is the cheap products are pretty much as good as standard ones, it's the packaging the money is saved on. My boys have had BOGOF co-op pasta bake twice this week (because I am idle), but they ate the lot, so that's fine with me.

Am v impressed with your expressing abilities natty. (I never managed it)

14 holly

If you are in a position to sell any and have some group 1 (if that's the 9mo plus ones) I will definately be interested as we'll need one for bumble before too long.

Ria, if you can get £5 bargains and sell them for £20 then you have the prospect of being a right old hun a nice little earner there

I have 14 car seats (don't ask) and 1 more on the way, but I only have 2 pushchairs, so I'm doing well !

Natty, hope you are ok today. Don't worry about the value lasagne, thanks to our extravagant car buying my kids are living off of pasta for the next 2 weeks (not that it would bother them, they ask for pasta every night any way!).

Dp is going to get his eldest tomorrow and he is bringing his girlfriend. I am not happy about it. He is 17, she is 14 (maybe 15 now). I've asked dp to put them in separate rooms, but he says they'll be fine in one! As far as I'm concerned she is a little girl and he is a man. I'm just going to stay out as much as I can whilst they're here otherwise I'm going to get cross.

I am a bit (even though I'm £20 richer until I consider the other two I've already bought on the anticipated proceeds). Can't promise I won't end up with another £5 bargain from a boot sale though!

I still have seven

but only five of them are mine, lol!

lol ria well done

hooray! I only have 2 pushchairs!

ok daisy let me know. am sorting out funds for pram as well, we got stung by council tax again this month and a bit poor now

i bought a swaddler thing on ebay and it has been a life saver today, DS2 is only happy when wrapped in it. now all i need to do it work out how to get it washed and dried without him noticing he is wrapped up in it...
me thinks i might need a second one

Don't know about the UK but July/August is a good time to shop around for deals on appliances here. We just got a washing machine and dishwasher at more than 30% discount.

Oh, and another ebay question. An item I bought arrived today and it wasn't as described. I contacted the seller and he has refunded me....so far so good. The item is now in "MyEbay" though as me needing to pay for it . What happens with that then? Can I just delete it from my list?

I do Natty....I have offered them to another MNer as she was interested, but if she doesn't get back to me by tomorrow I was going to relist them on used nappies, but you can have first dibs before I do that if you like.

It is infectious; I'm looking at everything in the house with a fresh eye now thinking "Can I sell it?"

The smell wasn't the nappy. It was still hanging around and my friend and I sniffed it out. Eventually tracked it down to a tommee tippee cup full of what had been milk but was slowly turning into cheesey fermented yogurt that DD had stashed in the net bag on the back of her toy pram! It had fermented so much it had popped the lid of the cup and soaked the toys that were in there. They have been chucked, the bag has been washed and my house is fragrant again (well, less unfragrant!). when the smell was still hanging around I was beginning to worry that it was me!!!

Sputnik, I hope you are on the mend.

ria, I hope you can get some rest and that your cold doesn't hang around too much.

Norty, for your anxiety about the dentist.

Thanks Fury, I'll have a look at Argos. definitely best to test several more ice creams

Fairy, I got a Haier(?) from Argos, it was £125 delivered and given it has 145l capacity it's a really good deal. Manky second hand ones on ebay don't go for much less!

HOWEVER it has been on for a couple of days and I just had an ice cream from it, now I am prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt because it's hugely full and maybe it hasn't reached maximum chillness yet (it's been about 30 hours fully laden) but the ice cream was not frozen block frozen.
I think I will try another one tomorrow to check progress

daisy have you still got the tots size 1s? finding they are the best nappies for us atm

Hello everyone

Fury, did you get a good deal on your freezer? Where did you buy it from?

Norty - my 2 used to pull each other's hair in the supermarket trolley - my 'solution' was to put hooded tops on both of them. It worked quite well

Daisy, that's some impressive ebaying

Daisy, when my sister's kids were little, they would all come and stay in my room over Xmas. One February I was clearing out my room and found a used nappy under the bed that had been the since Xmas . Thankfully it was a well wrapped up on itseld disposable so didn't smell too bad.

One day I'll remember everything in one post!

Daisy, we had a funny smell going on as well in our garage and we also discovered the cause yesterday.....a chicken breast that had dropped down behind the recycling when we emptied the chest freezer last week.....it was revolting <bleurgh>

Fury - you'll be surprised by the roof rails...we sold ours when we changed cars and almost got our money back for them

Ria and Sputnik...hope you feel better soon

Hello

Stitches sound horrible Natty....hope they ease soon for you.

Well done Daisy....e-baying is infectious isn't it? I've got a bid on one of my sleeping bags which is good

Hospital were well pissed off with me when I rang to say I couldn't make that date. They can't do things according to my personal circumstances apparently. Well tough, I still can't do that date. .

DD and I have got the dentist on Wednesday....and I'm already getting worked up . Fucking anxiety sucks. I suspect DD will get a check-up with me being all jolly and nice and I will give it a miss

Natty, it might be worth looking into cranial osteopathy? Jamlet wouldn't open her mouth wide enough at first, but one session sorted her out! It does of course, and unfortunately cost - we paid £30 - but might at least be worth getting an opinion on whether there is a problem that cranial osteopathy might help.

natty, it took my stitches a good few weeks to feel OK. They should start dissolving around days 10-14 so you've a way to go yet.

well done on offloading ebay stuff daisy
latch on good side slighty improved, is hurting a little less. hoping its just that the nipples are already sore and thats the problem.
he is a stubborn thing, he WONT open his mouth wide enough to get enough in, but going to a baby cafe wednesday to ask them.

also going to registerhim wednesday

hope my stitches go off by then
they are really big knots and are not disolving very quick, feels like im sitting on barbed wire..

very friendly toddler groups.. dont exsist round here

fury. DS1 gets teased at schol for wearing his trousers like Simon Cowell.

Have a grim cold and feel really rough. (and am trying to stave off Torchwood-induced paranoia that swine flu is a government/alien conspiracy I blame DH)

Have to go to the PO with an ebay thing and Dsis b'day card when DS1 gets home. Then make BBQ food (in the oven cos DH gone to work) and visit the aged parents. Busy!

Well done on the sales Daisy, that must feel GOOOOOODDDD.

I have some stuff to sell but I don't fancy my chances getting shot of it.
Kia roof rails and used NEXT curtains, anyone?

Daisy yes I have been to 3 playgroups in the last 2 weeks, and the funny thing is I live on the cusp of a posh area and fairly close to some 'not posh' areas, I went to one in a fairly poor area and 2 in the posh areas, and it was the posh areas that have been incredibly welcoming, and the other one that was 'closed' and cliquey - if I am honest I would have expected it to be the other way around.

DS has taken to pulling his socks up to his knees. I hope this is a phase and not a lifestyle choice.

Natty, how are things today? I hope you're doing better with that latch

Yay for successful kiddy groups fury; it;s desperate when no-one talks to you, so it sounds like you have found a lovely friendly group

Oh, Happy Birthday for Foxy's DD yesterday. Forgot to say on the day

I've been out and about today; gym minis (they had the bouncy castle up as it's the last session for this term. DD was beside herself with excitement and bumble thought it was pretty good fun too), then I had a huge PO run to do, then pick some stuff up from the depot and then get courier stuff organised. I have only just stopped as I've been catching up on feedback etc!!!

The good news is the Jane Powertwin has sold ; I have now earned enough in 10 days to pay for our new bathroom suite . Now for the tiles!

I have also got to the bottom of the odd smell in my front room.....there was a dirty nappy under the sofa . I have no idea how long it had been there, but we noticed the smell on Friday

hello!

I have been out to a local playgroup with DS and met some lovely mums who have invited me over for coffee and things and showed me where the best places are to hang out, and also a few heads up on the local schools!

Unfortunately I have an AN appt on the day of one of their meet ups but they said they have them all the time, like every week/2 weeks so that's cool.

I am also having a bit of a stress as I am now £1400 overdrawn thanks to vets bills and various other things. DH's birthday is on Sunday but we have decided to postpone it until we can afford it

happy birthday to LO's.. im awful at remembering birthdays, my mum has had her birthday forgotton 2 years running!

poor you sputnik glad to hear u are feeling better.

I'm here, just.
I had some kind of flu at the weekend with really high temperature, achiness but nothing else. Feeling better but wobbly.

Happy birthday to Foxy and JBM's DDs

where are you all?

taking kids to park thats the exciting extent of my day.. need to stay near my pump lol

its 6am and im pumping away! if you had asked me 5 years ago what i would be doing in a few years time at 6am...



munchkin has been feeding on and off the 'good' side all night, and the bad side was fit to bursting so had to get up and express it.

ellen was funny last night putting her to bed, she heard charlie whinging (hungry again) and put her hands on either side of her face and said
"oh no baby crying.. need to eat your boobie!"
bless her!

Natty

not all crap, got 4oz outta my sore boob just now

Sorry it's all crap for you Natty

bloody bloody bedtime

for you natty.

Natty that sounds pants, poor you.
Well done on expressing though.
BTW, there is no way on this earth that my normal freezer will accomodate that much food - we decided to buy a cheap chest freezer and fill it with wholesale food, as I have the IL's coming to stay for 6 weeks soon, and whilst this was expensive, when you are feeding a few it works out cheaper than going to tesco's twice a week.

fury @ freezer, i dont think i could fit that much in my freezer!

know what u mean about housework ria, i am still doing it all DH loaded the dishwasher today. thats all..

crap day
one boob is bleeding too much to feed from now as making him throw up every time i try. so expressing to keep supply up (which is gentler and i can use it to feed him with as doesnt make the crack bleed)
good news is my bargain boots pump is excellent and i got 2oz out in 20mins, not bad considering its early days, and with ellen i couldnt get anything out.

feed kids family sized VALUE micro lasange for dinner

my stitches are really really sore, i think maybe they need cutting as they dont seem to be disolving.

thank god midwife is coming tomorrow!