September 2012 - They're on the move

[WhereAreMyShoes]

Hello everyone. Hope you all find us safe.
Welcome to any newcomers too.

DD just tried to brush her hair with a hairbrush. Very clever!

[ThedementedPenguin]

Oh signing in. I really need to catch up on the old thread.

Glad a new one has been set up :)

[shoeprincess2]

Well hello ladies! It has been a long time since I posted- returned to work on 9th April and it was fine. Oliver has settled in nursery really well- he is such a lovely, happy little boy. Textbook daytime baby. However, he is still waking up at night. He has only slept through twice since birth and that was last week. It is absolutely exhausting. I feel like a zombie most of the time. Plus DS 2.8 is having full blown tantrums at the moment. His behaviour is awful. He is so affectionate, but also incredibly bossy. It is really wearing. I keep saying to DP that it will pass, but I may have completely lost the plot by that point! Hope you ladies are all ok xx

[leelteloo]

Hmmm on the move; not here lol, he's still got to master sitting

[NightmareWalking]

Not moving here either - although DDmwill stay sat when you sit her up and she really is trying to crawl, but hasn't worked out she needs to lift her tummy/bum up so isn't getting very far!

Very clever WhereAreMyShoes - this morning K tried to brush her hair with a shredded wheat. Yuck. She has started clapping when you pick her up from a nap which is very cute though - and I got a perfect 'Mama' today! (At 5 am. Still, not bad!)

[WhereAreMyShoes]

Hi shoeprincess, good to see you back.
It must be really hard to be back at work and up in the night still. DD is still waking 3 or 4 times for comfort feeding so I'll soon be in the exhausted zone again.
I can't even try to get out of bed before 6am so getting up and ready for work is going to be tough.
Earlier nights for me!

My DS is the same age as yours and we're having the tantrums at the moment. The -if I don't like what I hear/see/smell etc then I'll flop on the floor in a big heap and wail whilst you try to find out what is wrong- tantrums.
One of his new ones is whenever I tell him off he tries to divert my attention by whining asking for a cuddle. We all know he doesn't want one!

I bet they'll all be moving pretty fast by the time we finish this thread!

Nightmare I was eating my dinner when I saw your post and snorted on my pizza!
Well done for getting a Mama. DS took fucking forever ages to say anything and even then his first words were the numbers 1-10

[WhereAreMyShoes]

I've actually had a rubbish few days with the kids.
DP and I are both apprehensive about returning to work as he really didn't think he was up to looking after with of them. But his application into the army is on a go slow due to the fitness (he's got nearly ten years on the younger boys joining) so we don't really have much choice.

I think the sooner I get back next week the better.

Just to show my scatter brain, I went along to my gp earlier for an appointment for surgery on my head. All psyched up, slightly nervous but glad the day had finally come.
It's tomorrow.
I wondered why my phone reminder hadn't gone off.
Dickhead.

[ThedementedPenguin]

Hello shoeprincess good to hear from you again. I'm glad Oliver settled into nursery for you. I'd imagine it makes it slightly easier if they are settled, less to worry about.

Herbie is still up 2-3 times a night and has only slept through twice. I'm exhausted at the minute and could really do with a full nights sleep.

Herbie is sitting up so well but is not on the move yet, well except in his walker. When he is in it he wrecks everything, pulls whatever is on the table onto the floor. No talking here although claps his hands all day long and sometimes when I'm putting him back into bed after a feed in the night. It's cute but at that time I'm too tired.

I can't quite figure out his food and bottles. It was going so well then bam one day he refused everything, think it was teething.
So today went like this
1.31am - 5oz
5.30am -4oz
9am -very small amount of porridge
9.30am -4oz
1pm- a very small lunch
1.30pm -6oz
5.15pm -a jar of food, and some pudding
6.30pm -5oz
8pm- 5oz.

[ThedementedPenguin]

Sorry posted too soon, although that was a huge post

whereare I hope your appointment goes okay tomorrow.

I hope the tantrums pass soon for you both, I'm sure it's an awful stage. I've only seen my cousins doing it and I am not looking forward to that stage, although he has quite the tantrums at the minute. So frustrating.

I'm going to make a doctors app tomorrow as I've been bleeding on and off since Jan and I'm getting really sick of it. When I think it's over it comes back with a vengeance (sp?) a few days later. I'm hoping it will be something simple like the pill causing it but I was on this pill for ages before Herbie and I never bleed like this. Hopefully will get some answers tomorrow.

[leelteloo]

So again this morning ds woke up 15 mins earlier than the night before: if he goes on at this rate he'll be waking up 15 mins after I put him down.
This morning I thought he had settled in his cot, I put his dummy back and did a bit of shh pat and he went quiet . Yes I thought: 5 mins later he started to cry and I didn't pick him up and he just went mental. I have never heard him cry like that and then he wouldn't stop. Even when I took him in bed. Dh got up and had a go at soothing him but he was getting worse. Ended up having to put In The bloody Night Garden on at 3.35. And now I have just had to give him his morning milk. I feel I'm not going the right way about this at all and have visions of being up all night with him for years to come like with dd. It must be me; I am too soft, just cave in.
I have decided that when he is 8 months we are going to try cc or cry it out or some version. He can't be hungry really, he eats like a horse all day long and is still having all his milk. I think I pick him up quick because I worry he will wake up dh and dd. I feel so stressed and worried when he cries at night so I do anything to make him stop. That has got to change. I think I would be much tougher if I was alone with him.
Anyway, he is in bed with me, full of milk and looking jolly sleepy so I'll try get some sleep.
Hope gp goes well TDP.

[WhereAreMyShoes]

Thanks Penguin, I'll be sorry from myself later after I've had my head chopped about a bit
Herbie's food sounds about right to me. I don't know about milk but I'm sure you're doing fine. DD refused all food yesterday and was in a right old mood all day but after I gave up and put some banana on her tray she ate it all. She's so fickle!

Leelteloo I know how you feel about night times.
I ended up doing some kind of cc with DS and he sleeps alright but DP was on nights so it was just me and I could get on with it.
Now, I get really tetchy letting her cry because I have DP here and I really don't want to upset DS sleeping either.
But something's got to give, so it's me. I feed her to sleep and let her sleep in my bed if I can't get her in her cot without waking her up.
It won't be forever.

Hopefully we'll come out unscathed and in a few year's time we'll think nothing of lying in till 10am after a full night sleep.

[ThedementedPenguin]

How did the appointment go today whereare?

I actually went to doctors (have put it off since Jan) anyways I have to go back tomorrow for another smear, swabs and an internal. Woo :( not looking forward to it but I suppose it will hopefully put my mind at ease if I get something sorted.

Doctor said she would normally put it down to the pill but due to abnormal cells and biopsy she wants to get sure and wants to check cervix and all. Then when results come back ill maybe have to change pill.

I hope it's something small and easy to sort. I'm completely dreading tomorrow. So glad I had Herbie today so I could go back alone tomorrow. Also means I can shave my legs before I go down haha

[WhereAreMyShoes]

Oh Penguin, it's horrible not knowing what's going on with your own body isn't it?
But, it is quite possibly the pill, even though you were OK with with it before.
I have polycystic ovaries and never had a natural period after the first one I had when I was 14. Only ever had them while on the pill or other hormones.
Then 9 months after having DS I started having regular periods and got pregnant again with DD. Pregnancy can do funny things to you even after birth.

Thanks for asking. It went well, I had a cyst removed from my scalp, on the top of my head. So now have a sore, baldy bit.
there's a klaxon thread in chat if you're into details

[Forgetfulmog]

Hi ladies,

I was wondering if I could join? My due date was oct last year, but had to be induced early so she was born in sep

She's ebf & still feeding every 2-3 hrs day & night so I hear you all on the sleep deprivation although thankfully I'm not working!

[WhereAreMyShoes]

Welcome Forgetful, hope you're well.
Night two of trying to get DD to sleep in her cot and she's just woken up sc-reaming because she wasn't in my bed. I decided I'd just come to bed so left her there for a second to get undressed and she went doolally. Gawd know what the neighbours must think!

Now happily feeding and sleepy again.
She will sleep in her cot. One day.

[ThedementedPenguin]

Hi forgetful have you started weaning? How's it going?

I read the other thread whereare sounds like it went well although please do not bang your head again. It all sounds very painful.

Does your Dd move around a lot? I couldn't sleep with Herbie in bed every night, he always pulls my hair and head butts me. Thank god he is in his own bed.

I'm hoping it is the pill, but because it didn't happen before I've made things way worse in my head. So I've just to get tomorrow over me and then hopefully ill get a new contraception. How many pills is there?

[WhereAreMyShoes]

There are loads of different pills out there. I remember years ago I was given a few different combined pills as I was getting sore hip and knee joints and apparently different brands can give different side effects.
Are you on a minipill? I know it's quite common to have lots of bleeding with that. It's the same kind of drug to the mirena (not copper) coil and the implant, so beware if they try to persuade you onto either of those.
My local NHS staff really push the mirena coil. It must be cheap!

I'm considering the copper coil. But worried about the insertion. I've had all sorts of painful things lately so get a bit uptight about inviting more pain.

DD just woke and won't go back to sleep in her cot so back in bed with me. I'm such a soft touch.
She doesn't really move all that much in bed. I put a pillow behind her back to stop her rolling off the bed and lie her on her side facing me and she just goes to sleep feeding. But in her cot, as soon as she wakes she rolls around and gets stuck sideways. And gets seriously arsey.
If only she'd take a dummy.
But then I love our cuddles in bed. She's so warm and snuggly. Doesn't really help with an attitude like that, does it?!

[ThedementedPenguin]

Em I'm on cerazette. Had no problems with it before. I was actually very shocked when I found out I was pregnant as I hadn't had a period in months before hand. So after Herbie I couldn't decide what to have or start so I just started taking what I had. Went to docs in Jan and got more. Had no bleeding until start of Jan, which made me think it was more to do with abnormal cells and all.

I don't want a coil, I have had enough fading about with my fanjo I'm not asking for any more. ESP after tomorrow. Was reading up on them tonight. So I'm not sure what to so tomorrow. Should I ask for a new pill.

I was on the combined pill before this one for about 6/7 months but I ended up with really bad headaches and migraines, double vision and I collapsed a few times so doctor took me off and I was fine after that so I'm a bit unsure about taking another one. Was bad enough without a baby but imagine if it happened again and Herbie was on this own for a while. Too scary.

Herbie awake, fed and away to bed again. Just which he wouldn't get up. But I can almost set my watch by him every night.

[WhereAreMyShoes]

You could ask for a different minipill. At least if you don't get on with it you can stop taking it. Unlike the long term things.

If worst came to the worst, you could just stop all pills and have a rest from them.
See what they say and if you're not happy could you go to a family planning clinic? I've found they're very understanding. After all, preventing pregnancies is one of their main priorities.

I know how you feel about all the poking around. You just want to be left alone.
After recovering from birth, which takes me longer mentally to recover than physically, you just don't want any more inspections.
I hope it's not too bad for you. Can you maybe treat yourself after? Take Herbie out for a coffee and cake? Or a can of coke in the park? It was so lovely and sunny here yesterday, hopefully you get some too.

[Forgetfulmog]

Hi all, yes we have started weaning - started off with purées but dd decided a few weeks ago to refuse spoon feeding (unless its yoghurt!) & so now were doing BLW. She loves watercress for some reason, strange child! I've been giving her porridge fingers for breakfast, which she loves, bit & pieces for lunch & a bit of whatever we're having (minus salt) for tea. She did have reflux & I had to give up dairy, but thankfully that's sorted itself out now so I can drink tea again, yay!

[Forgetfulmog]

Wherearemyshoes - watching your posts with interest as my dd has been sleeping with me for the past 4 months - she was originally sleeping on me, but thankfully she will now sleep snuggled next to me. We've bought a cot for her & need to start putting her in her own room, but things are a bit difficult atm - DH needs his sleep & I need him to be available to help (he's doing a degree atm & has assignments due), but once his UNI year is finished (in a couple of weeks) we're going to start trying to put her in her own room. Then maybe DH & I can actually spend some time together! At the moment, we only see each other at tea time & when we give dd her bath (& fleetingly at bed time!).

[Forgetfulmog]

Re contraception - have you thought of Implanon? It's the only contraceptive I ever got on with. It's similar to the mini pill, but less hormoney.

[ThedementedPenguin]

I can't go to a family planning clinic as they are a drive away, not far no I have no car atm. So I'll see how doctors go before I maybe go down that route. I'm just not sure whether I should be asking for a new contraception today or whether I should leave it or a while.

I'm going down by myself, I don't think Herbie will be settled during, and he didn't fall asleep yesterday so ill go alone. Although I might go to shop to try and get an outfit for Sunday as its my cousins baptism, and I have nothing to wear.

It's all crop tops everywhere ATM and there's no way I can ever support one of them again. Need to lose the mummy tummy haha

Yes the weather has been lovely here, it's so good to see the sunshine as I'm so sick of rain and crap dull weather. I've been trying to spend a lot more time outside with Herbie as he loves being out there.

I think I'll try blw now, we had Chinese last night and Herbie ate a noodle he loved it. So I'm going to try and give him more to play with and eat as he is now interested in food. Although I need to get my head around it all and get some more stuff in the house.

Forgetful I take its the implant, I'm not to fussed on it. There's been a few people in my family that has been on it and they either bleed a lot or got very angry. So I'm too afraid to try it.

[Forgetfulmog]

Fair enough penguin, for me it was the only contraceptive that didn't give me massive mood swings & I also lost weight whilst on it . The bleeding thing is true though, I did have 2 periods a month in the last year or using it, but the first 6 months I was entirely period free!

[ThedementedPenguin]

I'll talk to my doctor today about it. Although its a longer lasting one and I think I might try or another baby later in the year, if I was to get it, it can be removed easily. I'll talk to her.

[NightmareWalking]

Ladies, can I ask for your happy thoughts for the next few days please - off to stay with PIL until Monday. FIL hasn't spoken to me since our wedding day and last week MIL accused me of lying when I told her DD's first word was 'Mum'... going to be an interesting few days!