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October 2012... PELVIC FLOORS!

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Londonmrss Wed 13-Feb-13 16:47:22

Ready...
Steady...
And squeeze!

Mine is a bit rubbish!

Zara1984 Wed 13-Feb-13 17:01:12

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze

Angelico Wed 13-Feb-13 17:12:28

<Marks place. And squeeeeeeeeeeezes> grin

Orenishii Wed 13-Feb-13 17:16:37

I am giving half hearted squeezes because I am fed up. Sick of this winter! Will it never end?

Angelico Wed 13-Feb-13 17:18:56

PS: Interesting thread in BFing and FFing over in Breastfeeding about some interview today about whether BFing is really better... link here

Angelico Wed 13-Feb-13 17:22:27

Guardian article here. It's interesting for sure. I'm glad I was able to persist with BFing but the article is quite timely for me personally because expressing enough is tough and I'm having to begin considering mix feeding for when DD is at creche.

crazypaving Wed 13-Feb-13 18:02:00

my pelvic floor has seriously improved since all the reminders, thanks all!

oh and huffle your tip about standing on tiptoes has saved me on a few occasions - keep meaning to thank you for that!

londonlivvy Wed 13-Feb-13 18:11:33

Hello and squeeze. ..

Comedy half hour of me trying to make a valentines card for df from dd with footprints etc. It is rubbish but hopefully it will make him smile.

hufflepuffle Wed 13-Feb-13 18:12:30

Marking place! Squeeeeeeeze

Sitting in car in driveway in rain like a nobber. DH trying bottle again. The things we do.........

Off to read those links

Thank you Londonmrss!!

WantAnOrange Wed 13-Feb-13 19:01:17

When does the 4 month growth spurt end? Seriously?

Will try to catch up....

Londonmrss Wed 13-Feb-13 19:04:51

ok so I know I'm a nobber and I always go on about how nipple shields saved my life. but huffle / yomping / anyone else wanting their baby to take a bottle- is it worth a try? your baby would be feeding from you directly and the suckling action is the same as breastfeeding directly. but they will be sucking from a teat-like silicone thing which might just get them used to what it feels like. I don't have any evidence that it would work other than my baby is fine with a bottle- but she had to use a bottle before she could bf so that is meaningless. anyway, just a thought.

more of a ramble than a thought.

YompingJo Wed 13-Feb-13 19:36:25

Tried a nipple shield, London. She screamed and refused to latch. I have the world's crossest baby confused. Thank you for the thought though, and for the new thread smile

Woolybob Wed 13-Feb-13 20:02:44

Oooo... Shiny new thread... Good title!

Mikyahrose Wed 13-Feb-13 20:12:15

wantan. I think we're out of the sleep regression. DS has slept like a trooper the last 2 nights. He's 19 weeks and the bad sleep lasted 10-14 days. I thought if would never end and I seriously thought about drop kicking him out the window one night. But, fingers and everything else crossed its on the up. I also put some of it down to wonder weeks. Only just found out about these and it seems that was happening too.

lisbethsopposite Wed 13-Feb-13 20:41:06

Too tired to post long - things better here, colds resolving, sleep improving (it would want to!).

I will be 4 weeks post cyst removal tomorrow so I can swim again!!! Burn settled too. I can see my sanity at the top of the next hill - I'll get there soon.

Yomping I just got baby to take bottle again. This is how we did it.
I booked a nanny for 3 hours (a granny who works as a carer - not formally trained 'nanny'). Prior to that I had asked some family members to help as DH away a lot but they couldn't give it enough time. Massive screamathons and shocked DS and DM.
She (nanny) took baby out for a walk as baby was not hungry when she arrived. Cue relaxed hungry baby an hour later on her return when I was gone from the house - I believe they will not take their first bottle if they think mum ie. the good stuff, is available/around. She reports that he drank it down no problem. I was shock
He last took bottle 4 weeks ago and that was done just for one 24 hr block. Baby has to be hungry but not distressed hungry. We used an avent breast mimic bottle but there are many similar brands. I think it has to be clear that mama is NOT around.
That's what worked for us and I hope it helps you.smile

hufflepuffle Wed 13-Feb-13 20:47:26

Cheers London. DS also severely disliked shield last time I tried. As did my poor feckin nipple....... However that was ages ago (in the life of a 17wk old baby....) and I still have them. I have a bottle, dummy, pump collection fit to stock a village pharmacy. So I shall try if we don't progress!! Good idea!

Whilst I was hiding in car DS took NO milk. In his bath he took 1.5 oz followed by 2 oz in bedroom! He has now fallen asleep on boob after about 2 mins! This is not the feed I wish to phase out but at least he is swallowing the stuff!!!!! I am feeling hopeful.

First you were talking about pushchair? I walk DS in 4 or 5 and when asleep put him down to 2 or 3. I know these seem high but if I don't he lifts head and cranes neck to see out!! I'm using a padded liner so he seems secure. DS is however so v big remember! Met up with friend today with 8 month old. DS def def taller and similar weight!

Angelico Wed 13-Feb-13 21:21:59

On bottles don't forget to change teat if you got ones that came with teats. Someone bought us Tommy Tippee ones and bean refused them at first a few weeks back - till someone pointed out they come with size 1 teats. They were just too slow and frustrating. With size 2 teats she guzzles the bottles down.

hufflepuffle Wed 13-Feb-13 21:52:07

I'm sticking with newbirn size ones as I've got a slow let down and the bottles which dripped fast seemed to choke him! But when I get definite success (hark at me, if, not when!) I assume I'll move up to appropriate size? But he's a major fast sucker. That's why I liked medela, he had to work and could take breaks. But he not interested in those now.

Too many feckin variables............! Easier bloody bf!! (Changed days Huffle, changed days!)

Angelico Wed 13-Feb-13 21:59:29

My let down is like a fire hose in the mornings but thankfully slows down after first feed of the day grin

Beccus Wed 13-Feb-13 22:02:12

yes, huffle, those r the ones. dp does the bottles here & how he laughed when i showed him the cup the dentist gave us. i can't really see it working, either. apparently cups with lids r ok as long as they dont have a no drip valve...the sucking buggers up the development of their speech muscles, apparently. one of the other mums said her dd1 used the 'illegal' valve type and had no problems. babybeccus also likes an easy bottle, no fancy medela bottles for her, what with their nasty hard working teats...

hufflepuffle Wed 13-Feb-13 22:20:32

Buggeration. The 2 cups I bought are non drip. So they r no good then?? Not wanting to give a young child a cup that isn't non drip this early, they have no comprehension. FFS!!!! More stuff to add to the unused pile!! Right. Bottles better bloody succeed.

Night all!

Angelico Wed 13-Feb-13 22:24:25

Beccus DD liked the Medela one early on but recently was like hmm - too much like hard work grin

Any suggestions for good cups with lids? I got a Tommy Tippee one but although it has a spout it is free flowing so have visions of the bean pouring stuff everywhere.... Need a good 'first' cup with lid.

smileyhappymummy Wed 13-Feb-13 22:43:30

Right, am going to phone GP tomorrow and ask for an appt for baby. This is getting ridiculous. Vomiting god knows how many times a day - at least 20 - often curdled, acidy smelling vile milk, now increasingly screaming and arching her back during and after feeds, 2 hr screamathon yesterday afternoon and of course the nightly 1am to 4am scream. I know or suspect at least GP will be reluctant to prescribe anything (based on previous experience with them) but am going to go and ask for either ranitidine or omeprazole (both anti reflux drugs) or a referral to paeds. Tried gaviscon but as much use as a chooclate teapot - nightmare to get it into her and then puked it back immediately. When it was just the vast quantities of washing generated I could cope (sort of!) but more and more she seems in pain and we are just not coping well with so little sleep (and it's not good for her either). Feel better for having made the decision.
Sorry, this is all me, me me again. Off to bed now to await the next waking.

Beccus Wed 13-Feb-13 23:01:17

huffle, i wouldn't worry too much about the valve issue. even if my dp was happy to try a cup instead of a bottle, i dont think babybeccus has the headcontrol yet to manage a cup. we will be persisting with bottles.for now. if your cups work for u and u feel a non valve one would be manageable & practical, u can always get one later. if sucking from bottles and valved cups were really that bad, i would expect to see lots more kids with slurred speech and more general awareness about this! angelico, sorry, no suggestions re cups.

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