Ed Miliband excellent on Andrew Marr Show

(54 Posts)
claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 09:58:47

Ed is phenomenal. He is right on nearly all the issues. No spin, he'll do it his way, he is for real.

The Labour conference will be very interesting. If they were all like him, they would deserve to win. He even says he will separate retail banks from casino banks. He says he will take on vested interests on behalf of the people, but that may be his downfall, as they will be out to defeat him to prevent him making change for the better.

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 21:01:21

Am I the only one who thinks he is the biz, a prime ministerial political whizz?

He went to Haverstock School, he ain't no fool, he plays by the rules. He ain't no toff, he don't say things that are off; just cos he's a celeb, he don't think we are plebs. They say he's a wonk and a geek, I think they've got a cheek trying to put him down, he is himself, he don't act the clown. He's gonna try with all his might to do the things that are right. He's on our side, not in it for the ride, the type of thing the public can't abide.

At school they didn't call him 'Thrasher', he ain't nothing like Dennis the Menace's Gnasher. That's why he probably couldn't be a whip, he keeps his mouth zipped and hasn't got a foul-mouthed lip.

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep Sun 30-Sep-12 21:09:56

claig... are you ok?!

You've written a rap about your love for a Labour politician just there, you know.

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 21:19:35

I know smile.
I have been a fan of Ed Miliband for quite a while now. I think he is really good. He is serious, doesn't seek the limelight, just does and says things for real. As Matthew Parris said on the Andrew Marr Show today, Ed Miliband has got dignity. I think he has got real class, not the type that is bought by fees at a private school, and not the type that thinks it is above the ordinary people. He doesn't have to shout, he doesn't have to swear, he doesn't have to bully because he has got real class, something that money and privilege can't buy.

Fobwatch Sun 30-Sep-12 21:20:40

Op - who are you and what have you done with claig?

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 21:24:22

Oh, and he is not one of these millionaire former investment banker politicians. Give me a wonk and a geek and frankly anyone rather than those.

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 21:26:40

grin Fobwatch. It is me, I've had an epiphany!

PetiteRaleuse Sun 30-Sep-12 21:33:32

I like Ed Milliband.

But I'm very surprised you do claig. We don't normally agree.

<suspicious sniff>

ivykaty44 Sun 30-Sep-12 21:35:09

Claig what''s happened to you?

BigStickBIWI Sun 30-Sep-12 21:35:43

I like Ed. I voted for him. But I've always been worried that he isn't doing enough to persuade people.

I'm hoping that his quiet integrity will finally win through. As long as he has some convincing, persuasive policies ...

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 21:37:46

I'm fine, yes I've had one glass of wine, but then it's about time and it ain't no crime!

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 21:41:40

A lot of papers and spinners are trying to portray him as not being leadership material. That is why opinion polls reflect that. I fear that there are also those in Labour who want to depose him and put someone else in. But that will be a huge mistake. There is no one else like him in Labour. They are sitting on a gold mine and all it will take is time for the public to see him for the good leader that he is.

Inneedofbrandy Sun 30-Sep-12 21:41:52

I'm warming to him, would vote labour even if he was a plank, but agree with the dignity. Will need to watch show on catchup.

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 21:44:49

First they tried 'Red Ed', now it is geek and wonk, but that will fail too. His strength is that he is a decent chap, one of us, no 'Thrasher' and his class shines through no matter what mud they try to throw at him.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210624/Ed-Miliband-Film-shows-self-confessed-geek-Haverstock-school.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

ivykaty44 Sun 30-Sep-12 21:47:17

claig - are you going to start read the gaurdian? Or would that be a step to far?

chocolatespiders Sun 30-Sep-12 21:50:42

This thread has made me smile... I love Ed and the labour party but didnt see the show today .

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 21:51:21

That would be madness and as Madness sang 'one step beyond'.
I think Ed will start reading the Daily Mail because he wants to serve the people, all of us.

crazynanna Sun 30-Sep-12 21:51:43

I am sending you a Wolfie Smith tshirt,Claigy wink

ivykaty44 Sun 30-Sep-12 21:54:21

madness are great - go for it.

PanofOlympus Sun 30-Sep-12 22:01:12

When claig goes for a Labour politico I get really suspicious.....it's a rouse to encourage people to support an unelectable Labour leader, thereby ensure a Cons. majority at the next election.

claig - you are sooo easy.

PanofOlympus Sun 30-Sep-12 22:03:36

the rap was quite good though, albeit OTT.

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 22:09:15

No, Pan. I like Ed and I am a Daily Mail reader. If I like him and what he says, then I bet that many more Mail readers do too. He is a person that can win over Conservative voters who worry about the state of the NHS, care for the elderly, rip-off pension charges and casino banking cowboys.

The reason is that he is genuine and doesn't think that the millions of ordinary people who vote Conservative and who read the Daily Mail are any different to Labour voters. He understands that we all have the same concerns and worries. To some millionaires, we are all just plebs. Miliband is on all our sides, he is with the 'squeezed middle', the trades unions, the workers, the unemployed and the sick and he is willing to take on vested interests on all our behalfs.

PanofOlympus Sun 30-Sep-12 22:10:30

So you'll be voting Labour at the next General Election then?

Badvoc Sun 30-Sep-12 22:14:53

I like him.

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 22:15:05

I am seriously weighing it up. I will have to see if they will remove our civil liberties from us, because that will stop me voting for them. But 75% of what they say is right, so it really depends on that extra 25%.

zipzap Sun 30-Sep-12 22:25:02

really? Didn't really see much of the programme but dh was watching with his head in his hands, basically saying he's coming over really badly, he has no clue, no ideas, no workable policies, who's going to vote for labour if he's in charge, complete nightmare'. and he's a committed labourite!

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 22:33:59
LittleBearPad Sun 30-Sep-12 22:36:30

Cracking cheese gromit...

Sorry I couldn't resist

Ponders Sun 30-Sep-12 22:37:07

Andy Burnham for PM

chipstick10 Sun 30-Sep-12 23:14:44

He walks with his feet turned out.

claig Germany Sun 30-Sep-12 23:21:28

What's wrong with having polished, smart shoes?

Article about the Labour in-fighting. If they ditch him, they will lose the election. The others are so transparent, they are nothing like Ed.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210591/Ed-crash-burn-David-Milibands-feud-Labour-leader-brother-revealed.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

dotnet Mon 01-Oct-12 18:15:59

I thought Ed Milliband did a really good interview, too - even to the extent of being relaxed enough to laugh, a couple of times (real laughs, not uncomfortable or put-on ones.)
Andrew Marr didn't really get anything over on him at all - E.M. was convincingly genuine throughout.
But aren't political interviews exhausting - all that verbal speeding and cutting up and overtaking on the inside.
Even though the things she said may have made you want to scream, Margaret Thatcher's interview technique of being like a tractor on a motorway, was effective in its way (and had the advantage of cutting down on the number of tricky questions put to her.)

Ponders Mon 01-Oct-12 20:55:16

Eddie Mair interviewed Douglas Alexander about Ed M on PM this evening.

it all went quite swimmingly until Eddie said "now, tell me about Ed M's flaws"

you could hear DA's jaw hitting the floor - looooong silence & then he floundered for several minutes. Eddie was exactly like a cat playing with a mouse hmm.

(his supposed reasoning was, Jack Straw has just belatedly told us about John Smith's & Gordon Brown's flaws - wouldn't it have been good to know about them in advance?)

I wonder how Maggie would have managed with Eddie. He is very good at the killer question grin

Alibabaandthe40nappies Tue 02-Oct-12 22:44:12

claig did we watch the same program? He was awful.

If you already like him, then you aren't really a good barometer.

claig Germany Tue 02-Oct-12 23:45:05

I like him. Today's speech had too much spin, but that is probably down to his teenage advisors and not him.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Wed 03-Oct-12 00:01:33

I think he pitched it really badly, because he presented it as being all him, no script, blah blah.
And it was all spin, so now he just looks even more of a deluded fool.

Except of course if you are Allegra Stratten and appear to have forgotten that you work for the BBC, an allegedly impartial broadcaster, and have cast yourself in the role of chief cheerleader to the Milliband cause. Stupid woman.

claig Germany Wed 03-Oct-12 00:08:25

I think it was right that he made it all about himself, because the alternative was to include the Shadow Cabinet, and just looking at them was enough to remind one that that would not be a good idea at all. But, yes, there was too much spin.

Yes, Allegra Stratten thought it was very good, which came as a bit of a surprise. But then again it is the BBC. They probably won't rave about Gove's speech in the same way, when we all know that that will be an undoubted cracker.

claig Germany Wed 03-Oct-12 00:20:06

But Paxman was good, he treated it with the requisite amount of cynicism it deserved.

Boris for PM. Milliband is a knob. So is Dave.

claig Germany Mon 08-Oct-12 23:40:42

It is starting to look more and more as if that might happen, and Boris would probably beat New Labour singlehandedly.

ttosca Tue 09-Oct-12 12:05:10

Yeah, it's a great idea to elect a party on the basis that a party's PM is a lovable, laughable buffoon.

That's good politics. Definitely won't end in tears.

B Johnson is many things but a laughable buffoon he is not.

He's razor sharp.

grovel Wed 10-Oct-12 00:16:23

Ed did not mention the deficit in 60 minutes. He mentioned "one nation" 39 times. Idiotic. I am so cross with him. It was well-delivered blather.

Devora Wed 10-Oct-12 00:17:52

I like Ed Milliband. He's got that North London Jewish nerdy shtick that I, personally, find very appealing.

grovel Wed 10-Oct-12 00:22:26

And all that comp school stuff is embarrassing. He lived in a "learned household" and inherited big time. He bought his current house for £1.6 million (with a £400k mortgage). He did not save £1.2 million from his career as a politico.

Ed, you are inviting derision. Get into the detail of how you will help the disadvantaged or get out.

Greythorne Wed 10-Oct-12 06:28:00

grovel

As much as the Tories would like you to believe Haverstock is "Labour's Eton", it remains a comp in North London. It is in no way comparable to Eton.

Fishwife1949 Wed 10-Oct-12 13:03:21

Are you drunk op

When i read the title i had to look again there is no such thing as ed Ed and phenomenal the two words dont compute

HE always looks like hes a bit lost

Fishwife1949 Wed 10-Oct-12 13:05:42

Greythorne yes we all know the millionare ed milliband is stright out of the getto (she scoffs trying to no injure herself giggling)

He was never ever in danger of working in gregs now was he despite what labour try and convince them selves

claig Germany Wed 10-Oct-12 13:46:34

'Are you drunk op?'

Not yet, it's too early in the day.

slug Wed 10-Oct-12 14:25:25

You do know that a salary of £73,000 does not make you a millionaire don't you? hmm

Devora Wed 10-Oct-12 22:44:30

I suppose his house is worth over a million... but that is true for loads of Londoners (not me, sadly). It doesn't mean he has a huge disposable income, certainly nowhere near that of Osbourne or Cameron.

Xenia Sun 14-Oct-12 15:13:07

Is this a joke? He is the Conservatives best secret weapon. Long may he maintain his position. Of course he is as rich as many Tories. He went to the Eton of Comprehensives. He inherited his political crown through nepotism - look at his ancestors, like the leader of North Korea. He is married to a barrister as he did a moral sell out by suddenly for political reasons deciding marriage mattered so he will be very well off. He has the personal charisma of a slug.

He is as said above a millionaire in terms of assets. He is part of the London champagne socialists and lives in a very expensive bit of London where most of us could not even consider living. He is unlikely to get in but let us hope he stays as leader until the election as that will help us move towards a Tory win.

claig Germany Sun 14-Oct-12 21:25:24

But apart from all that, I don't think he has ever put a foot wrong.

'Is this a joke?'
Certainly not. His poll ratings are rising.

Xenia Mon 15-Oct-12 15:43:27

He is certainly very robotic and entirely lacking in charm and charisma which leaders need.

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