The new british citizenship test-would you pass it?

(60 Posts)
mumnosbest Sun 08-Jul-12 14:00:37

Take the test here www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/quiz/2012/jul/05/uk-citizenship-test

I scored 6 and DH (who passed the old one) scored 8. We're both smart enough, been to uni, ok jobs etc. You need 10 to pass!

Would you be allowed to stay or be deported with us?

Pandygirl Sun 08-Jul-12 14:04:13

I got 11, but guessed on some of them.

jollyrancher Sun 08-Jul-12 14:05:03

I got 10 but my elation was short lived. You need over 10 to pass, not 10.

meditrina Sun 08-Jul-12 14:05:45

I got 14/15

(The one I got wrong was about when English laws were first extended to Wales).

iloveACK Sun 08-Jul-12 14:07:33

I scored 9! (decent education & jobs like you too!!).

TheMonster Sun 08-Jul-12 14:07:38

I scored 5. Ooops. I'll start packing.

Magneto Sun 08-Jul-12 14:09:39

I got 9.

And I'm hoping to start a history degree in September blush

Quite proud that I got all the ones asking for names of people right, my historical geography is clearly awful though.

Off to watch more Horrible Histories to brush up my skills. wink

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Sun 08-Jul-12 14:10:03

10 here too, although there was some guessing involved.

slalomsuki Sun 08-Jul-12 14:11:10

Got 8 but there are a lot of questions that relate to England and not whole of the UK in history and in my defence I was educated in Scotland with Scottish history.

Pandygirl Sun 08-Jul-12 14:13:38

DSS got 2, but I've told him it's okay, they can't throw him out just because the UK education system let him down grin

onedaysandy Sun 08-Jul-12 14:26:57

Rather surprisingly I got 11. I've been teaching English to international students recently and a lot of the course material covers British history. I think that's helped me brush up!

mumnosbest Sun 08-Jul-12 14:33:19

looks like we might be getting some very clever foeigners coming to show us up A bit. by the way Im a teacher so im educating your children! sorry blush

Empusa Sun 08-Jul-12 14:36:32

I got 9. Always wondered how knowing any of that information makes someone a more desired citizen?

TheWalkingDead Sun 08-Jul-12 14:41:25

I got 12, and out of the five I guessed three of them were correct guesses. I put it down to luck

Shanghaidiva Sun 08-Jul-12 14:46:09

I got 12 -<swot>

MummyDoIt Sun 08-Jul-12 14:47:05

I scored 12 but a couple were lucky guesses. Some of those were really easy but others were impossibly hard!

Akermanis Sun 08-Jul-12 14:51:11

I got 11 but I have no formal qualifications at all ( I think I may be an inverse snob )

I got 23 out of 25 for my Aussie test but that was because i refused to give the answer that Capt. Cook discovered Australia and I didn't know when the gold rush started in Victoria.

2old2beamum Sun 08-Jul-12 16:12:17

DH got 11 he thinks he is so clever confused but I think as a yorkshireman he should deported. Me of alien descent got 12 grin

WitchOfEndor Sun 08-Jul-12 16:27:12

I got 11 with a few guesses, but I haven't covered some of this stuff since school so it wasn't too bad. At least I get to stay!

globalmouse Sun 08-Jul-12 16:33:21

I've got an a in history as level (European, not British), a first class degree and a pHd (science).

I got 8.

In my defence, i hate history, its really dull smile and i only managed 8 cos i guessed a lot of them!

Not sure what the test is meant to be doing. I'd be an asset to the UK but i wouldn't get in....

WitchOfEndor Sun 08-Jul-12 16:34:26

DH got 4 grin

mumnosbest Sun 08-Jul-12 17:12:31

ok out of our family of 8 the highest score was 8. DS7 then did it and scored 9!

flexybex Sun 08-Jul-12 21:49:13

All my family are failures!
MY ds has a VERY good idea. Give this test to all members of the BNP. If they fail - deport them!

flexybex Sun 08-Jul-12 21:56:07

The question on the black death is ridiculous - they don't know how many people were alive at the time, nor exactly how many died. There were about 7-8 outbreaks of the black death in the 14th century.

What a stupid question.

Why do people need to know such specific questions on English history to be a citizen of the UK? I would have thought road signs or existing laws would be more useful.

Maryz Sun 08-Jul-12 22:03:01

I scored 10.

And I'm Irish.

To be fair, though, I'm not sure which ones I got wrong. I put at least three that I knew were guesses.

Where are the answers?

Maryz Sun 08-Jul-12 22:04:30

Sorry, 11 - I passed grin

I got the Wales, the NHS and the black deaths ones wrong hmm

CrystalQueen Sun 08-Jul-12 22:10:18

12 - but I am a swot. Plus I have "A History of Britain" on DVD. I totally fail to see how that qualifies me to be a UK citizen.

oreocrumbs Sun 08-Jul-12 22:10:46

I scored 8, and two of those were guesses. I thought NI was part of Great Britain?

I'll fetch my coat. . . . Where will they be sending me?

Actually I passed the old American test in that place in New York where the imigrants arrived. Clearly my memory has deserted me since that point since I can't even remember the name of the sodding museum shock. Perhaps they will send me back there!

TalkinPeace2 Sun 08-Jul-12 22:14:03

I got 11
and I have my certificate for the old one

CogitoErgoSometimes Sun 08-Jul-12 23:33:58

13... <smug git emoticon> I didn't think we imported canal builders in the Middle Ages (mediaeval canals? hmm) and had no clue about the Welsh question.

MrJudgeyPants Mon 09-Jul-12 09:45:18

I also got 13 - Like Corgito, I didn't even know that we dug canals in this country until the beginning of the Industrial Revolution - I guess the canals that these labourers dug would have been for irrigation?

I also got the one wrong about when English law was first applied to Wales - although, in my defence, I think this is misleading as England invaded, and held, various bits of Wales for various times from shortly after the Norman invasion onwards.

[Don's pedantic hat]

Question 1 is wrong in so much as Wales isn't a country, it's a principality.

Question 2 is wrong as Boudicca fought against the Roman occupation, not the conquest.

Question 3 is wrong, Alfred the Great didn't defeat the Vikings, and he fought them until they accepted the division of the country (Danelaw).

Question 4, the application of English law in Wales, is debatable.

And

Question 6, both Serfs and Yeomen worked the land.

Other than that, it's a perfectly entertaining pub quiz. Personally, I can't see the point of this at all and think it's stupid to bar British nationality to anyone who can't answer these questions. Many Brits wouldn't pass this test and, moreover, does knowing this information really make you a better subject?

mumnosbest Mon 09-Jul-12 09:50:58

maryz when you finish the test there are 2 boxes at the bottom 'try again' or 'see answers'. i missed this so did the test again choosing random answers and got 10/15!

slug Mon 09-Jul-12 10:40:51

14 out of 15. That's a relief, I have to sit it for real later this year.

whatinthewhatnow Mon 09-Jul-12 12:37:35

10. I'll get my coat. it's a ridiculous test. how on earth does that show that people are willing to be 'british'? I'm sure questions about modern culture and practices would be better. or do they have those already? the whole thing seems bananas to me.

Ponders Mon 09-Jul-12 12:41:19

I got 11 (phew)

v surprised at answer to no 8!

Trills Mon 09-Jul-12 12:42:38

Yes, I would pass it, because if I were planning on taking the test I would read and learn the things that they suggest you read and learn.

The questions in the test are not the point at all, the point is that you are willing to put in a bit of effort.

Trills Mon 09-Jul-12 12:45:07

I scored 11/15

LilyBolero Mon 09-Jul-12 12:50:18

I got 12/15 so I passed, but I think some of the questions are impossible to answer - eg the one about which monarch established the Church of England , because it was Henry VIII who broke from Rome, which led to the establishment of the CofE, which I presume was Elizabeth I, but I can't see the answers to see which one they are taking as the answer!

LilyBolero Mon 09-Jul-12 12:52:15

Ok, can see answers now - it says Henry VIII but I dispute that really!

LilyBolero Mon 09-Jul-12 12:53:38

And given that Mary totally demolished any 'new church' to restore Catholicism, it took an act of parliament by Elizabeth I to establish the Church of England as we know it.

Stupid question really.

kmdwestyorks Mon 09-Jul-12 12:56:02

Failed 8/15 but then i also fail to understand how failing it makes me less british or less concerned about UK issues or less committed to contributing my bit.

i am however a good student, give me the guide and i'll learn it off by heart and score 15/15 but that wouldn't make me more british or more concerned or more committed either.

Ponders Mon 09-Jul-12 12:56:05

it was breaking from Rome that came first though

I know Bloody Mary then reversed it, but Henry started it grin

Pascha Mon 09-Jul-12 12:59:09

11 right. I wonder how many of us got the same 11 questions right?

mumnosbest Mon 09-Jul-12 13:01:46

trills i hope the point isnt just to see who's willing to put in a bit of work as people could be motivated to do that for any reason, not always good. i agree wih earlier posts that a test on laws and culture would be better.

imagine if the driving theory test was just about the history of automobiles. how many people could swat up and pass? id probably only get 6/15 again without revision but im not a bad driver!

HandMadeTail Mon 09-Jul-12 13:10:25

I passed the proper test last year.

I passed this with a score of 11.

I am Australian.

CogitoErgoSometimes Mon 09-Jul-12 13:31:03

"fail to understand how failing it makes me less british "

It doesn't. Big perogative of being British-born is that we're quite free to be as ignorant of our culture and history as we wish. Foreigners often show us up in that regard.

Hassled Mon 09-Jul-12 13:38:29

14/15! Ha! I'm gobsmacked at what I apparently know.

Hassled Mon 09-Jul-12 13:40:04

Although - maybe I did so well because I only moved to the UK when I was 10? Maybe I/my parents made some sort of conscious effort to get me up to speed?

LilyBolero Mon 09-Jul-12 16:45:23

" Ponders Mon 09-Jul-12 12:56:05

it was breaking from Rome that came first though

I know Bloody Mary then reversed it, but Henry started it grin"

I think the problem is that when do you ascertain that it was 'established' - I think there's an argument for either of them, but in a multi-choice answer paper it could be the difference between pass/fail!

Ryoko Mon 09-Jul-12 19:33:46

I got 7

iklboo Mon 09-Jul-12 19:38:35

14 - also got the laws on the Welsh one wrong. I thought it was earlier than that.

Jellykat Mon 09-Jul-12 20:09:35

I got 7, but having seen some of the panel on Question time answering their questions wrongly last week (!!) i can't say i'm worried. grin

EugenesAxe Mon 09-Jul-12 20:39:27

10 here too...

Trills Mon 09-Jul-12 20:48:07

The difference between being a British citizenand doing a driving test is that to drive you have to have some actual skills - to be British you just have to believe it in your heart. Therefore a test of "did you bother to make an effort?" is a good enough test.

Jellykat Mon 09-Jul-12 21:11:18

That's kind of what they said on Question Time Trills, the panel agreed that the test should be based on morals, trust, community, how things like the NHS system works etc rather then GCSE type questions on history, statistics etc

mumnosbest Tue 10-Jul-12 09:22:17

I'd agree with both trills and jellykat but this test is rubbish. If its about making an effort though it is a waste of time. Anyone who goes through the whole process of applying for visas or indefinate leave then lives and works here for a few years imo has already made an effort.

rshipstuff Tue 10-Jul-12 12:42:24

It's not the actual citizenship test, it's just one they've dreamed up for the Grauniad.

mumnosbest Tue 10-Jul-12 12:50:17

Obviously but its not just 'dreamed up', it gives an idea of the kinds of questions on the new test.

I got 9 but guessed most lol

grumpyinthemornings Fri 16-Nov-12 16:16:39

Got the English law in Wales wrong, but we weren't taught about that in school.

Skilled workers coming from Europe - there were engineers in the middle ages? Huh. Who knew?

I didn't know who the first prime minister was. The potato famine was later than I thought. I had no clue who was in power when the NHS started.

The one that really got me was the colonies granted independence. I chose the option with Assam rather than Ceylon. But apparently it's all bloody Sri Lanka now anyway! SO I was right! India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka! <mutters angrily>

9 out of 15, and I was born and raised here. Kind of annoying really.

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