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Was going to vote LD, but...

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Lovecat · 05/05/2010 14:31

Our LD candidate is also standing as a councillor in Southwark. When asked what she'd do if she got both posts, she replied she would then decide what to do and which job she really wanted the most . And if she wins, Ilford isn't 'too bad' a commute from Southwark - so she obv. has no intention of actually living near her potential constituents! Can't they find anyone local to the area to stand??

And the local party have been running a really nasty smear campaign against the incumbent Labour bloke - stirring up the local Muslim populace by saying he's a Zionist and a friend of Israel and 'no good muslim' should vote for him... we're a stone's throw from Barking & Dagenham and I refuse to vote for a party who are cynically stoking up racial tensions.

So I shall be gritting my teeth and voting Labour. Not impressed with how the LDs have conducted themselves at all.

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MorocconOil · 05/05/2010 14:39

Lovecat- that's disgraceful.

I won't be voting LibDem as their policies have no substance.

I remember going to comprehensive school in the eighties. The building was falling down. We were threatened with exclusion for collecting money for striking miners and their hungry families.
Our local comprehensive has been rebuilt under labour's school rebuilding plan, and there children are taught about citizenship both locally and globally. They are encouraged to challenge and question the system.

That I believe is a result of a Labour government given a chance to affect change.

I dread, absolutely dread what will happen if the Tories get back in!

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vesela · 05/05/2010 14:50

I googled this and it seems the leaflets are from MPAC and that they (or a similar group) did the same sort of thing in 2001 and 2005, regardless of who the Lib Dem candidate was.

I know there will always be people who say well, it must have been with the tacit agreement of the Lib Dems, but basically if groups like that start leafleting, there's not a lot you can do about it.

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vesela · 05/05/2010 14:52

and she herself has made it clear she doesn't have a problem with the fact he's in Labour Friends of Israel and that the issue needs to be addressed in an unemotive way.

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vesela · 05/05/2010 15:00

What I don't condone are the Lib Dem leaflets in some areas that say "Stop arming Israel." It might be a Lib Dem policy, but I don't agree with putting it on leaflets.

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Heathcliffscathy · 05/05/2010 15:03

yup that's right. libdem policies have 'no substance' because the breakdown of their policy on the economy at the back of their manifesto is substance free obv.

where as the backbone of the tories economic recovery is 'saving on waste'.

i'd laugh like a drain if it didn't make me want to cry...how taken in by the propaganda do you actually want to be?

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longfingernails · 05/05/2010 15:07

Lib Dem hypocrisy live and on videotape

www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-MVeAYQSN4

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P767uwZFcSs

The Lib Dems have absolutely no policy they won't face both ways on. Nick Clegg is so desperate to get into bed with Cameron that he is even willing to flip-flop on PR.

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jackstarbright · 05/05/2010 15:11

Me too!

I voted LibDem in the last two general elections (admittedly tactical voting).

But, our LibDem MP has rarely set foot in the constituency in the last few weeks and I've haven't seen a LibDem canvasser. Apparently they've been 'lent out' to a neighbouring marginal constituency.

My defection is made easy because the conservative candidate is female, local and has worked really hard. Not that she's got much hope of winning (though more chance than Labour).

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vesela · 05/05/2010 15:18

jackstar - that's normal - the LDs don't have the resources to fight a proper campaign in every seat. They've built up their seats by focusing on particular ones. If you want it any other way, you have to join and start leafleting yourself!

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vesela · 05/05/2010 15:20

sorry, just seen you've got a Lib Dem MP! well, still stands, the more people who join, the more canvassers can get round!

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Lovecat · 05/05/2010 16:15

vesela, it may well be MPAC that have done this but the effect has been that all the muslim-run businesses in the area are now festooned with libdem posters/stickers/weird diamondy things and the Asian vote does seem to have split on quasi-religious (I say quasi as I'm fairly sure MPAC aren't representative of muslims as a whole!) lines, which I don't feel is any good for community cohesion at all.

There's enough tension in our part of London atm, I suppose I should only be grateful that 'Respec' haven't descended on us....

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