A List of “Men’s Rights” Issues That Feminism Is Already Working On

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Since we seem to have another incursion of MRAs on the thread, I thought I would post this excellent blog which should clear some points up right from the start and save valuable argument debate time.

A List of “Men’s Rights” Issues That Feminism Is Already Working On

Feminists do not want you to lose custody of your children. The assumption that women are naturally better caregivers is part of patriarchy.

Feminists do not like commercials in which bumbling dads mess up the laundry and competent wives have to bustle in and fix it. The assumption that women are naturally better housekeepers is part of patriarchy.

Feminists do not want you to have to make alimony payments. Alimony is set up to combat the fact that women have been historically expected to prioritize domestic duties over professional goals, thus minimizing their earning potential if their “traditional” marriages end. The assumption that wives should make babies instead of money is part of patriarchy.

Feminists do not want anyone to get raped in prison. Permissiveness and jokes about prison rape are part of rape culture, which is part of patriarchy.

Feminists do not want anyone to be falsely accused of rape. False rape accusations discredit rape victims, which reinforces rape culture, which is part of patriarchy.

Feminists do not want you to be lonely and we do not hate “nice guys.” The idea that certain people are inherently more valuable than other people because of superficial physical attributes is part of patriarchy.

Feminists do not want you to have to pay for dinner. We want the opportunity to achieve financial success on par with men in any field we choose (and are qualified for), and the fact that we currently don’t is part of patriarchy. The idea that men should coddle and provide for women, and/or purchase their affections in romantic contexts, is condescending and damaging and part of patriarchy.

Feminists do not want you to be maimed or killed in industrial accidents, or toil in coal mines while we do cushy secretarial work and various yarn-themed activities. The fact that women have long been shut out of dangerous industrial jobs (by men, by the way) is part of patriarchy.

Feminists do not want you to commit suicide. Any pressures and expectations that lower the quality of life of either gender are part of patriarchy. The fact that depression is characterized as an effeminate weakness, making men less likely to seek treatment, is part of patriarchy.

Feminists do not want you to be viewed with suspicion when you take your child to the park (men frequently insist that this is a serious issue, so I will take them at their word). The assumption that men are insatiable sexual animals, combined with the idea that it’s unnatural for men to care for children, is part of patriarchy.

Feminists do not want you to be drafted and then die in a war while we stay home and iron stuff. The idea that women are too weak to fight or too delicate to function in a military setting is part of patriarchy.

Feminists do not want women to escape prosecution on legitimate domestic violence charges, nor do we want men to be ridiculed for being raped or abused. The idea that women are naturally gentle and compliant and that victimhood is inherently feminine is part of patriarchy.

Feminists hate patriarchy. We do not hate you.

If you really care about those issues as passionately as you say you do, you should be thanking feminists, because feminism is a social movement actively dedicated to dismantling every single one of them. The fact that you blame feminists—your allies—for problems against which they have been struggling for decades suggests that supporting men isn’t nearly as important to you as resenting women. We care about your problems a lot. Could you try caring about ours?

seeker Thu 18-Apr-13 00:17:46

Sorry you've been so busy, sigmund- a woman's work is never done, eh?

Tortington Thu 18-Apr-13 01:01:35

"Feminists do not want you to have to pay for dinner. We want the opportunity to achieve financial success on par with men in any field we choose (and are qualified for), and the fact that we currently don’t is part of patriarchy. "

...........i agree so far - on an equality level

"The idea that men should coddle "<<< where is this written even on an every day level anecdotally?

"and provide for women" capitalism has negated this which was mainly an merican 1950's utopian construct - not what poor women ever experienced

, "and/or purchase their affections in romantic contexts, is condescending and damaging and part of patriarchy."

now thi is interesting, i never considered that buying anything for anyone was anything more than thoughtful

"Feminists do not want you to commit suicide."
not a lot of people want this to be fair - feminists aren't alone in this

"Any pressures and expectations that lower the quality of life of either gender are part of patriarchy"

part of capitalism - the rich constructing society in a way which screws everyone who hasn't got enough money, power or influence.

if you had even aid capitalist patriarchy here - i might of agreed,

society is ot constrcted to subjugate women anymore ( although it once was)

it is constructed in every fathomable way to make everyone make money for a super rich few - and tbh, they dont give a shit what gender you are!

"The fact that depression is characterized as an effeminate weakness, making men less likely to seek treatment, is part of patriarchy."

mental health issues, especially depression, is not the contruct of patriarchy, it is a result of a society baed on capitalist principles

gener v gender will never get anyone anywhere - which is why i cannot support a feminist ideology.

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