Justice for Men and Boys - Isn't this exactly why we need feminism

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wickeddevil Sat 30-Mar-13 22:27:42

Heard Justice for Men and Boys Founder Mike Buccanan on Womens Hour earlier today complaining that men pay 72% of all income tax.
Well isn't that because they have more income?
And instead of complaining about the feminist agenda doesn't it demonstrate why we need it?

runningforthebusinheels Wed 17-Apr-13 00:11:21

Vadark - the responsibility is 50-50 - always.

Blistory Wed 17-Apr-13 00:11:16

I vote for ignore.

SigmundFraude Wed 17-Apr-13 00:10:49

It is child abuse. There aren't really any other words to describe it. How to screw up your child.

Vadark Wed 17-Apr-13 00:10:47

"A man knows (or he should know) that every sexual encounter risks pregnancy."

So does a woman. And in addition, she has more choice of contraception and more capability to deceive throughout Phase 1.

Blistory Wed 17-Apr-13 00:10:36

Vadark, do us all a favour and use a condom.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones Wed 17-Apr-13 00:10:15

Shall we start a new thread for vadark to answer? Or just happily ignore him?

Blistory Wed 17-Apr-13 00:09:51

I'd laugh if it wasn't so tragic.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones Wed 17-Apr-13 00:09:26

The fact that she has more choices doesn't make her any more responsible for an unwanted pregnancy vadark. No contraception is 100%. I thought you knew that?

Vadark Wed 17-Apr-13 00:08:47

"Is this about jealousy ?"

No. It's about logic and fairness.

runningforthebusinheels Wed 17-Apr-13 00:08:02

No vadark I don't.

For the reason's I've just posted. A man knows (or he should know) that every sexual encounter risks pregnancy.

runningforthebusinheels Wed 17-Apr-13 00:07:01

<whistles innocently whilst waiting for vadark's answer>

Vadark Wed 17-Apr-13 00:06:32

"vadark wants to be able to have sex, use a condom or not, and blame the woman in the event of an accidental pregnancy. Even though no birth control method other than abstinence is 100% guaranteed.

And it's all the woman's fault because she has more contraceptive choices than men. So the man shouldn't have to pay maintenance. It's always about paying isn't it? Well sorry. We're not buying it."

Do you agree that in Phase 1 women have more choice and are more able to deceive? Yes or no.

Blistory Wed 17-Apr-13 00:05:48

Because if a man wants to lessen the risk to him of an unwanted child, he has to take responsibility hence he keeps the condom on.

Stop putting it all on the woman.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones Wed 17-Apr-13 00:05:33

Is that your phase 2 vadark? Put a femidom in place? They're not 100% either.

So please answer seeker's question.

Vadark Wed 17-Apr-13 00:04:43

"And terminations are had at no financial cost to the man."

But the opposite (refusal to have a termination) does have a cost.

Blistory Wed 17-Apr-13 00:04:11

Do spare us the mock outrage. You've been indulged enough for one thread.

runningforthebusinheels Wed 17-Apr-13 00:04:03

vadark wants to be able to have sex, use a condom or not, and blame the woman in the event of an accidental pregnancy. Even though no birth control method other than abstinence is 100% guaranteed.

And it's all the woman's fault because she has more contraceptive choices than men. So the man shouldn't have to pay maintenance. It's always about paying isn't it? Well sorry. We're not buying it.

Vadark Wed 17-Apr-13 00:03:25

"Why not just keep the condom on ?"

Why not keep a femidom in place?

Vadark Wed 17-Apr-13 00:02:14

"Here:

goodmenproject.com/featured-content/hesaid-a-father-son-talk-about-rape-and-reteah-parsons/"

Well, if kissing someone against their will is rape then I must have been raped dozens of time at work and out and about. I've had my bum pinched countless times, been kissed by a couple of strangers out of the blue on nights out, and been groped in the crotch on more than a few occasions, all by females. I've also had a woman walk up to me in toilets and do and say things that are quite shocking really.

So this father telling his Son this rubbish at age 4 is just shocking and almost abuse in itself.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones Wed 17-Apr-13 00:00:31

Come on vadark - we're in suspense here. Spit it out. Although I don't think you really have phase 2 agreed yet do you?

How about we just skip to seeker's question?

SabrinaMulhollandJjones Tue 16-Apr-13 23:59:22

SGB's post from the other thread:

^The whole history of misogyny is about men's envy, fear and hatred of the fact that it's women who gestate and have babies. Societies have always been about seeking different ways to take the control over childbirth (not just the actual birth but the whole process of having children) away from women and give it to men instead.
Some progress has been made over the last century or so in most of the developed world, but there's still a vast undercurrent of rage and anxiety at the idea of women getting to choose whether or not a baby arrives irrespective of what men want.^

Blistory Tue 16-Apr-13 23:58:24

And terminations are had at no financial cost to the man. Or physical cost.

Blistory Tue 16-Apr-13 23:57:25

Why not just keep the condom on ?

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Tue 16-Apr-13 23:56:39

So what's your solution, vadark?

Blistory Tue 16-Apr-13 23:56:29

Bloody hell, it IS about control and jealousy. Tricked into taking a condom off ? I may just have heard it all now.

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