Louise Mensch resigns...

(319 Posts)
propercharlie Mon 06-Aug-12 09:38:21

too hard to balance famaily life sad

LostInWales Mon 06-Aug-12 10:20:48

Born Stroppy, yes it is bloody hard and I salute you for doing it. I don't miss it for a minute. I think the issue is that she seemed quite lightweight and media loving. There are some far, far better female politicians than her who seem to able to exist without sprouting spurious crap all over tv. And she writes terrible books grin.

I feel quite mean now, I hope she has a wonderful, low profile wink, life in America with her music mogul husband.

ThePan Mon 06-Aug-12 10:23:40

wasn't she also setting up a 'competitor' to twitter? That would have been rather time consuming, which her constituents would never get back. And could be the reason for the dash to the States.

SardineQueen Mon 06-Aug-12 10:25:16

I agree with missmavis. I think women in positions like this is a good thing on the whole. She's not going to be any worse than a bog standard male tory and it is positive to see women - especially younger ones - in any positions like this.

I also thought her handling of the questions about drugs was superb grin and the abuse directed at her and her family on twitter, of the most violent grotesque type imaginable, all because she has the temerity to be in the public eye and an attractive woman, it was disgusting.

@Metabilis or the issue of men marrying women who live thousands of miles away and then being surprised it's not easy?

But look who gave up their career, the woman in the partnership, not the man. As is often the case. Hence it's good we're continuing to talk about it and, eventually, hopefully, finding solutions.

FalseStartered Mon 06-Aug-12 10:25:52

Missmavis

the thread is in politics wink

marshmallowpies Mon 06-Aug-12 10:27:30

I think she's peed off she hadn't got a front bench job. As much as I want to see competent, intelligent women on the front bench, I'm happy to see a self-obsessed self-publicising fool like her off to America (bit like Piers Morgan really).

Someone who comes across as more interested in how they are perceived on social media channels and the businesses they are launching, than in representing their constituents, is always going to irritate me, I'm afraid.

I'm not a Tory but can think of several female Tory MPs who come across far better than her and I'd much prefer to be trapped in a lift with - Justine Greening for instance.

fatfloosie Mon 06-Aug-12 10:27:54

Always quite admired her myself, particularly her fearlessness. Found her articulate, consistent in her views and not tribal at all.

Thought her children were from a previous marriage so I am a bit shock if she is taking the children to be with step-father in NY and thus making access for their father more difficult. Obviously I don't know the full circumstances, and I don't mean to be judgmental as I do like her.

What do you mean False?

Being thick. Haven't had a lot of sleep!

ThePan Mon 06-Aug-12 10:28:27

oh she hasn't 'given up her career. She's switching back to the media world which is far more lucrative and less hassle than public service. LM isn't any good role model for anyone, other than LM...grin

FalseStartered Mon 06-Aug-12 10:28:32

<applauds marsh>

yup, what she said

OlympyWindowMash Mon 06-Aug-12 10:29:43

fatfloosie her ex husband is an American, so maybe he is back in the states now too?

FalseStartered Mon 06-Aug-12 10:30:00

I feel quite sad that the focus of this thread so far has been doubting her political credibility and jibes about her being a joke politician.

replying to this part of your post *Missmavis no malice towards you

SardineQueen Mon 06-Aug-12 10:30:25

I also don't understand why it will be a stick to beat women with.

High profile woman quits job on basis that she isn't seeing enough of her family. Lots of people would like to spend more time with their families. Loads of men would love to quit work to spend more time with their families too but the way society is set up means that for most families the man quitting is not possible.

I don't think a parent saying they like their family is a bad thing, is it? I think we should be aiming for working environments where there is more flexibility etc for everyone, not aiming for this presenteeism macho stylee 80s work hard play hard and get 2 hours sleep a night and pretend you don't have any children bollocks.

OlympyWindowMash Mon 06-Aug-12 10:32:43

I have a feeling the family life thing is a red herring. I think she would put her career above her husband. There must be something bigger and better in the pipeline in New York.

Clytaemnestra Mon 06-Aug-12 10:35:09

I'm not convinced it will be a good thing for getting people to discuss how hard it is for women to do things, I think it's just going to entrech the views of the population, male and female, who think you have to act like a man in order to be successful in the world of work. Which is depressing. I can't judge her for it, as it's not my life it's hers, but it just seems such a shame.

The discussion will have an undercurrent of how "the little woman tried her bestest but she ran away to her hubby in the end before she acheived anything useful. She should just have stayed in the kitchen in the first place."

KatherinaMinola Mon 06-Aug-12 10:37:07

good for young women to see that they could be an MP without being male and 40 (also Sarah Tether)

Louise Mensch is over 40!

I think we should be aiming for working environments where there is more flexibility etc for everyone, not aiming for this presenteeism macho stylee 80s work hard play hard and get 2 hours sleep a night and pretend you don't have any children bollocks

Completely agree Sardine. If this resignation triggers more of this kind of talk, eventually we might get there!

Got it False smile

puresweetie Mon 06-Aug-12 10:42:43

I really don't know why any of you think she's genuinely retiring because she's genuinely struggling to get a work-life balance.

She's a bloody rich TORY for god's sake. She's bound to be lying.

A shit writer and a pointless MP. Bye bye Louise.

(At least I won't have to watch her on I've got News for You if she's in the US - shudder at the memory)

puresweetie Mon 06-Aug-12 10:43:08

And she certainly doesn't represent me as a woman trying to get a balance.

mummytime Mon 06-Aug-12 10:44:00

Well as I don't like MPs who don't live in their constituencies, I think it is probably a good thing.

SardineQueen Mon 06-Aug-12 10:45:12

I suppose people are guessing what the press response will be - and I suppose that depends on what papers you read, if you even read any at all!

I don't read much expect the BBC and sometimes the independent so do not have much to fear on the being beaten with a stick front, about whatever a politician is doing.

I imagine the daily mail will get some very big sticks out but so what's new they use everything as a stick to beat women with!

Metabilis3 Mon 06-Aug-12 10:46:53

@sardine You don't work with sexist men then? Lucky old you.

She brought a little populism to politics. Whatever you think of how effective she is/was as a politician, her self-publicity and appearance all over Twitter and HIGNFY brought her (and politics) to people who perhaps wouldn't otherwise engage in any political issues at all.

I thought she was refreshing and interesting. A stand-out among the usual crowd of guffawing old suits.

There are plenty of strong arguments I'm sure to discredit her. As there are about most people in public life. I just think it's a crashing shame that we have to focus on the bad points rather than celebrating the good, and thinking about how we might bring more unusual/unexpected people into positions of power in the UK in the future.

SardineQueen Mon 06-Aug-12 10:50:59

metabilis I'm not sure I understand what your comment is about?

mam29 Mon 06-Aug-12 10:51:39

I quite liked her.

was baffled so did some digging.

she has 3kids. dont know how old youngest possibly 5.

they reside as in live in corby where shes an mp

do they attend local state schools in corby?
do any of them board?

she has quite a big family

think shes 1 of 4.

do her family not support?

i assume she has funds to pay for

nanny
housekeeper.
pa even.

her husbands american
he lives in newyork.

but the kids are from 1st marriage and i think the father is active and lives in the uk.

in her letter resignation she said they aware if issues and have done best to support her/a make allowances?

what does this mean?

must be more to it.

as westminster seems to break up with schools hols even.
some mps rarly seen in parliament.

its is a shame as theres very few high profile women in politics.

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