Just been on a course about new benefit system

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buggyRunner Sun 08-Jul-12 21:33:28

Christ it's a big shake up.

I say this as someone who won't be personally affected- it is harsh.

Basically if you claim any benefits other than child benefit you're probably going to have a loss.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere Mon 16-Jul-12 15:40:50

Are you accusing me of being unsympathetic when your DP's mother died or when your father died?
If you are I think you have me confused with someone else entirely.

I am very sorry for your losses but I have no recollection of the thread you are talking about.

Are you sure all the unsympathetic people were left wing? Did that have a baring on what happened?
I am very confused.

When people express sympathy for the loss of DD I never think about what their political leanings are. Its never come up.

Are you sure it was because of their political beliefs?

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere Mon 16-Jul-12 15:42:03

Was that last post addressed to Flatpack YoYO?

The one who shouted bigot?

YoYoYoItsTillyMinto Mon 16-Jul-12 15:51:22

you dont recall. like James Murdoch et al.

& no i dont have you or the other poster confused with anyone else.

however you clearly are not worth debating diddly with. carry on banging your drum.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere Mon 16-Jul-12 15:53:25

Can you link to it please?

YoYoYoItsTillyMinto Mon 16-Jul-12 16:01:12

no i am not interested in debating anything with someone who doesnt recall when its convenient for them.

i really have better things to do.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere Mon 16-Jul-12 16:21:20

I am not asking for you to debate.
I am asking that you back up your nasty little accusations with something other than passive agressive hinting.

You appear to be implying that I made light of the death of your DP's mother and your father.

I dont need a debate. I know it isnt true.
And so do you.

How very unpleasant of you to make such a claim and then run away.

AmberLeaf Mon 16-Jul-12 16:48:22

Was that when you used the example of your mil and fathers care during illness to make some sort of political point tilly?

Something about them not getting services/benefits they shouldve as a reason why the DLA cuts are a good thing?

Is that what you're talking about?

AmberLeaf Mon 16-Jul-12 16:49:47

Oops sorry you have better things to do.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere Mon 16-Jul-12 16:52:30

Your memory is better than mine Amber!
So was I unkind and unsympathetic about the deaths of her relatives?

I can be pretty strident about a lot of things but TBH that doesnt sound like me at all.

Thumbwitch Mon 16-Jul-12 17:27:21

"How many people complaining here would have sympathy for the relatives of George Osbourne or Margaret Thatcher when she dies? "

I have sympathy for their relatives now, purely for being related to them in the first place. Ditto Scameron.
It's one thing to have no sympathy for a person you consider to be vile/criminal/"deserving" of their fate; it's another thing entirely to lack sympathy for people who are, through pretty much no fault of their own, related to them, should they be killed/die.

AmberLeaf Mon 16-Jul-12 17:34:44

MrsD I can't imagine you being unkind to anyone tbh and certainly not in that context and no you absolutely weren't.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere Mon 16-Jul-12 17:46:26

Thank you.
I can be a bit mean if someone is being particularly racist, homophobic, poor bashing etc. I am not a saint!

But no, I cannot imagine being horrible about the death of anyone. If I was I am pretty sure it would stick in my memory because I would be fretting about it.

I can only imagine that the poster is confused or being deliberately spiteful.

I will go for confused right now.

2old2beamum Mon 16-Jul-12 18:51:19

Do not worry MrsD you are not unkind and agree with you over racism, homophobia and kicking people when they are down. I still love you smile

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere Mon 16-Jul-12 19:01:29

blush
grin

Orwellian Tue 17-Jul-12 12:57:33

Amberleaf - "She is entitled to her opinion and I am entitled to disagree with it-its called debate."

But you are not debating with her, you are telling her she should be ashamed if she doesn't think the same way as you do (i.e. feel sympathy for the relatives of Mark Duggan). Surely debate isn't imposing your opinions on others and if they don't agree saying "shame on you". Sorry but that's not debate!

sashh Tue 24-Jul-12 09:39:36

For me it makes sense that in current times that we are not paying housing benefit to people whom have a place bigger than they 'need'.

It's not so straight forward. The only accessable accomodation near me has two bedrooms or more. So a single person wit mobility needs or who uses a wheelchair has no option but to rent a two bedroom place.

The reason for them being a minimum of two bedrooms is that you might need a carer, maybe not all the time, but some of the time.

Also there is no option to buy the accessable homes.

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