New beginnings: a Christian prayer thread for summer

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Tuo Sat 13-Jul-13 23:22:55

I have called this thread 'new beginnings', as it felt appropriate to lots of us at the moment, in a whole series of ways.

Since I started our last thread, back in April, we have welcomed Abigail Faith, daughter of HadALittleFaithBaby, and Hannah Faith, daughter of RoomForALittleOne. We thank God for their safe arrival and pray that He will watch over them and surround them with His love as they grow.

We pray for Kaykat and for CharlotteCollinsismovingon as they deal with the breakdown of their marriages. We pray not only for Kay, but also for her friend who has been providing her with excellent support and legal advice, for a clear way forward and a swift resolution. We pray for a clear and positive way forward also for Charlotte, and for her children to cope with this change in their lives with understanding and resilience.

We pray for PositiveAttitude as she settles back into life in the UK, and prepares for a period away from her DH and DD4. We pray, in particular, for her DD1, that she find a job in which she will feel supported and which will help her to feel happier and better able to cope with life. We also pray for happiness for PA's DD3, who has just got married, and for her DS in his new job. Finally we pray for the work of her DH in Cambodia, praying that the separation is bearable and that he continues to be able to make a real difference to people's lives over there.

We pray for BlueTinkerbell as she moves to a new home, looks for work, and continues to explore her vocation. May this move be a really positive new beginning for Blue and her family.

Likewise, we pray for niminypiminy who will begin ordination training in September.

And we pray for my church and diocese in the aftermath of some major structural changes. This is a new beginning that was imposed rather than chosen, but may it bring positive developments nonetheless.

We pray also for:

... amberlight, for her work raising awareness of autism in churches, and for this work to be welcomed and valued, rather than greeted with incomprehension, far less hostility;

... BlackEyedSusan, for all the many things which she has to juggle in her life as a single parent; in particular, we pray for her mum's health, for peaceful and restorative holidays, for order in her flat and with her paperwork, and for her DC; we pray especially that they both receive the support that they need from their school;

... BoxOfDelights, for her to receive a clear diagnosis and suitable treatment for her eye problem very soon;

... Don'tsteponthemomeraths, that her DS is able to access the support he needs and is valued and nurtured at school; for better support also for her DD; for better relationships at work; and for her nephew, who has suffered a burst appendix;

... DutchOma and Bob, for health for Bob and for good support (moral and practical) for Oma as she cares for him day by day; and for the ability to rest and breathe easily in this heat;

...JakeBullet as she deals with her uncle's ill-health and decision to move back to his native Switzerland. May he be well cared-for and peaceful there, and may Jake not miss him too much;

... MadHairDay, for health as she lives with chronic illness, and for strength as she mourns the death of a friend; we remember also MHD's friend and all who knew and loved her at this time;

We also pray for friends who haven't been around for a while... for Badvoc, for Gingercurl and her thesis, for Jan and her DD, for MaryBS, and for all those who lurk, for occasional visitors, and for those known to us who are in need of prayer, whether mentioned here or not.

Lord, in your mercy, hear our prayers.

Tuo Sat 13-Jul-13 23:26:09

Bother, I knew I'd leave someone out... blush. Praying also for JugglingFromHereToThere.

Thank you tuo. A brilliant start to the new thread.

Super start smile
Thank you!
Lord hear our prayers

Bookmarking on this sunny morning.

Nephew has been discharged yesterday. Thank you for the prayers, I didn't post all the updates I had but it was a miracle that he recovered so well. The surgeon said it was the worst case of a burst appendix he'd seen in ten years shock He's now recuperating at home.

You'll probably be surprised to hear this but lovely mans court case is still dragging on slowly. Over a year now. Foreign court systems are shocking.

Dutchoma Sun 14-Jul-13 09:55:23

Thank you TUO, very much.

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 14-Jul-13 10:45:16

Thanks Tuo.

Mome that's great news, glad he's on the road to recovery smile
Sorry to hear lovely man's court case is still ongoing. Praying for positive resolution soon.

I am feeling better in terms of pain but its still niggling. GP is referring me back to the specialist so hopefully I can get it put right for good. Still really struggling with church. I said to DH I want to want to go, but I don't (if that naked sense). We just don't feel like part of the church any more. We are going to try a smaller church closer to home next week I think. It's making me quite sad if I'm honest. Prayers about the way forward still appreciated.

Holding you all in my prayers.

Lol at the typo.

I'm sitting in church listening to a talk that's not inspiring me at all. More applicable to a teen I think. I often think of changing church, as I'm now on the outskirts of it really and feel isolated but I've been here for years and everyone knows me and understands my DS's needs.

I'll pray for you faith and wisdom about the way forward x

Dutchoma Sun 14-Jul-13 11:37:27

Yes, I think sense is always naked at its best. Praying for both your church situations. I am very much in the same boat, not being aboe to go very often and then, when I do go not feeling it very inspiring. I was listening on line this morning and then bailed out as the 'happy day' chorus came on.

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 14-Jul-13 13:02:56

What a typo! Almost as good when I text my Mum to say I was going for a nice neck with my then BF rather than a meal!

I know there's an element of 'you get out what you put in' with church but we're in a vicious cycle...maybe a fresh start will help.

madhairday Sun 14-Jul-13 15:23:10

Thankyou so much for this new thread TUO and your keeping up with us all, you are such a superstar. Lovely to read and pray through your prayers and echo them with my own. Lord, in your mercy, hear our prayers.

All fairly good here, with health being good and work going fairly well though slowly still. We're planning a holiday club next week so working on that atm and also I am writing a seminar for NW. Prayers for that would be appreciated <wibbles>

BlackeyedSusan Sun 14-Jul-13 19:27:48

thankyou. I have been washing up for hours! and cooking roast in this heat. I am at least stopping things getting worse again now, after a week of appointments that have left things in a mess.

Dutchoma Sun 14-Jul-13 19:58:32

Thank you TUO for putting BoxofDelights on the prayer list. She has been in hospital for a few days and they now think it is not an infection at all but may be some sort of neurological condition. She will be staying with a friend for next week, has a few appointments, but is still in a lot of paim. There is a job interview at the end of next week, let's pray that she will be able to attend and get the job.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Sun 14-Jul-13 21:04:55

thanks Tuo for a fantastic OP for the new thread. My prayers for others are often little more than "bringing this before you... and this... and this..." so I really value being able to pray through yours!

Lovely day today at the annual church BBQ. Great to catch up with people I've not spoken to for months, maybe since this time last year! And meet a few members I've not spoken to before. I usually feel right on the periphery of the church, not being able to attend house groups and never having got the hang of chatting over coffee, so it was good to feel a part of things today.

BlackeyedSusan Sun 14-Jul-13 22:18:51

yay charlotte. smile

BlackeyedSusan Mon 15-Jul-13 12:16:23

still praying kay.

Marking place. Life is very busy so I may be lurking more than posting for a while.

Dutchoma Mon 15-Jul-13 21:24:13

Lurk away Room

amberlight Tue 16-Jul-13 09:05:54

Praying through...

madhairday Tue 16-Jul-13 17:23:04

Just in tears for dd. She's on her way to a residential week in wales and texted me very hurt and upset, copying me in on some texts another girl at school had sent her - horrible stuff - I hate you and she hates you and we don't want you near us and never talk to us again - that sort of stuff - so now she's crying and not coming home and I just feel helpless. Why are girls of this age so vile? Thankfully the girl concerned is not on the trip. Please pray she has a lovely time and is able to put this behind her

Tuo Tue 16-Jul-13 18:48:56

Oh MHD... sad I am so sorry that your lovely DD is having to go through this. I am glad that the girl concerned is not going on the trip, and I pray that your DD has a wonderful time, surrounded by nice people and laughter and happiness. The sad thing is (and this is from personal experience) that otherwise perfectly nice children are so afraid of becoming targets for bullies themselves that they will go along with the bullies in order not to stand out. So I hope that, with this girl not there, the others will rally round your DD and ensure that she's OK.

I'm glad that your DD is able to share with you: it's very hard for you to witness it, of course, but better than her feeling she has to cope with it all on her own.

Would your DD agree to telling the school what is going on? Are they good at dealing with bullying? In the meantime, can she block this girl's number so that she can't text her any more.

Thinking of you and of your DD and praying for much joy and love and friendship in her life.

BlackeyedSusan Tue 16-Jul-13 20:51:34

take them to show the school?

poor dd. prayers.

MHD that is so hard on DD and on you being away from her while she is upset. I pray that she has a fantastic time and really gels with some nice girls on her trip and comes home full of confidence and not worried about this other girl. In my experience these trips away are wonderful for making some really good strong new friendships.

I have had a bit of a shock today. Need to get my head around it, but hopefully can come and share a bit tomorrow in confidence. wink

Dutchoma Tue 16-Jul-13 21:14:22

MHD that is really hard on your dd. Praying, with the others that she will havea good time. Don't know what I would do about telling the school, I think you will probably have to, but only after you have discussed it with dd when she is back
PA hope the shock was not nasty, praying meanwhile until you can say a bit more.
Bob was not very well this morning so I didn't dare leave him and go to my carers' day at the hospice. The GP came and could not really find anything wrong, but we have the home oxygen nurse coming on Friday

De-lurking to say that I'm praying for MHD and her DD, PA and DO. Now to bed...

DO I pray that Bob is feeling better today and you manage to get a bit of a rest, too.

mhd have you had any contact with DD?

Right, if you are connected to me on Facebook, please don't mention anything about this on there until the world and his wife are told first! I am saying it on here because it is anonymous and I will explode if I don't!! grin

Within a week of coming back from honeymoon DD3 has announced that she is pregnant! shock I am going to be a grandmother!!! shock shock shock I am NOT ready for the rocking chair just yet!! Very excited, but also in shock. Soooooo very grateful that I am staying in this country now.

Dutchoma Wed 17-Jul-13 08:53:49

I have never seen the inside of a rocking chair either PA. And I give you a few years. Congratulations.
We are doing better this morning. We both slept better and feel brighter this morning. I'm having a new computer, so will be without for a bit.

BlackeyedSusan Wed 17-Jul-13 11:12:38

congratulations pa. <passes over walking stick, crocheted woolly blanket and baggy granny pants>

oh dear. dd has had her third nose bleed in 36 hours. i may have been a little upset at the caretaker making comments about being late today... we were only just in the gate before it shut, having dealt with said nose bleed.

BlackeyedSusan Wed 17-Jul-13 11:14:25

actually, come to think of it... i have a rocking chair, a fleecy blanket throw... not much hope!

cloutiedumpling Wed 17-Jul-13 13:33:34

Oh Congratulations PA. Hope DD3 isn't feeling too rough.

My Mum has a rocking chair. Dad made it for her when she was pregnant with my DSis. I've always wanted one but we just don't have space in our tiny house. Even our sofa has built in storage.

madhairday Wed 17-Jul-13 16:06:40

Congratulations PA and PAs DD3! smile How are you feeling now it has sunk in a bit?

I have a rocking chair, I love it, we bought it when dd was born for 'nursing at night' (yeh right) ;)

Haven't heard from dd since yesterday, so trying to assume she is having a fabulous time and forgotten all about it.

Thanks for the congratulations. Please pray for DD3, unfortunately she is taking after her mother and is throwing up everywhere and anywhere constantly! She is looking so ill, poor thing. Her new DH is being wonderful with her, but what a start to married life!!

DD1 has a job interview on Friday. Please, please pray that she gets this job. She so needs this.

We only have 5 days before DH goes back to Cambodia. sad

KeepTheFaithBaby Wed 17-Jul-13 21:03:26


Congratulations PA and DD. Hope the sickness eases soon.
I have an interview tomorrow so prayers would be appreciated

KeepTheFaithBaby Wed 17-Jul-13 21:17:23

Wonderful news about the pregnancy PA! I recommend sucking on ice lollies. I got pregnant in August and had bad MS. Praying for DD1 and the job interview! Also for your DH's preparation to return.

Glad to hear Bob felt better DO. Praying he remains cool in this heat.

Praying your DS enjoys her trip and can shake off these unpleasant girls Mhd.

We are pottering along. Very warm baby, working to keep her cool! Currently snoozing though smile

Tuo Wed 17-Jul-13 23:17:47

Oooh! PA! How very exciting! Praying for your DD3 to have as trouble-free a pregnancy as possible. Is pregnancy likely to exacerbate her previous condition? I am really praying that she is able to stay well. Also praying for your DD1's interview, and for you and DH as you enjoy these last few days together. It will be hard when he goes back, for sure, but keep telling yourself that it is not for long. And, well, in the circumstances perhaps it's just as well that you are there for DD3!

Praying for Blue's interview tomorrow too.

Thanking God for a better night for Oma and Bob. Praying that you sleep well tonight, and both stay well.

And continuing to pray for MHD's DD. Praying that she is having lots of fun on her trip, is well supported with friends around her, and is able to put that nasty girl right out of her mind. Also praying for you MHD as you prepare your seminar. Hope that's going well.

Continuing to pray for Faith and Room with their new (and new-ish) babies. Praying you're managing to keep them cool and to get some sleep in this heat.

And also for Kay and Charlotte, for BoxOfDelights, for BES, for cloutie, and for all who pass through here.

Apparently it's growth spurt time <yawn>

BlackeyedSusan Thu 18-Jul-13 07:26:45

oh dear. there is a lot of shouting going on. hopefully the weetabix will hit his system soon... ds still has growth spurts here he is constantly hungry. costs me lot of money in school unifom as he suddenly grows out of trousers!

The more I work with this person, the quieter I'm becoming for an easy life and the more confidence I'm loosing as she belittles me so much. I'm ten years older and had my first job when she wasn't even in senior school yet. I'm not stupid. And yet I'm finding myself starting to feel that way. Please pray for me.

madhairday Thu 18-Jul-13 22:11:11

Praying, Mome - that sounds really, really hard - is there anyone else at work who sees what is happening and can support you?

Thanks for the prayers for dd. Got a very giggly phone call today with her and a friend bellowing down the phone at me - all I could make out was that they were at the beach and having an awesome time, so I take it she's managed to move on ok from the horrible texts. So very relieved and thanking God.

TUO thanks, the seminar is nearly ready, just a few bits to trim and tidy up and then try and commit it to some kind of memory. It's a bit too long atm...

Praying for you all, for babies in this heat, for PAs dd3. Hope Bob is doing ok in the heat Oma.

Hello all,

Mome praying for you in this horrible work situation.

MHD so pleased that DD is happy again.

DD3 is wondering about the wisdom of pregnancy and wondering why people do it more than once in a lifetime! shock Tuo - yes, M.E. and pregnancy are not a good combination, but we are hoping that she will be ok. Her improvement over the past few years has been good, so hopefully she wont go too far backwards. Her Dh is brilliant and I plan to help out too, with filling their freezer with home cooked meals and popping in to do housework for her etc. She will be fine - she is a very determined stubborn young lady!
DD1 has an interview today - please pray for her to get this one.

I am really enjoying this pleasantly warm weather! wink I am finding cool but very enjoyable, especially at the beach yesterday.

SESthebrave Fri 19-Jul-13 06:53:54

Just grabbing 5 mins to read through & pray.

PA - congrats to your DD3 smile
Prayers for her, her new DH and a smooth pregnancy.

MHD - prayers for your DD. I hope she manages to enjoy her residential trip.

I need to get ready for work now but prayers for all on this thread - for health, relationships, families and above all that the one true God will hold us all in his loving care, that we may follow the example given us by Christ and for the gift of the Spirit to guide us.


I meant to say earlier - please pray for us as we have had some people at our church talking behind our backs about our plans and disapproving of what we will be doing next year. I wish they would come and speak to us directly, then we would explain everything and if they disagreed then, well, that's their prerogative, but without all the facts, how cant they decide what is right and what is wrong for US? We had prayed yesterday for a final confirmation that we were doing what God wants and we got it - with bells on!!!! grin
I sort of feel the need to convince everyone, but on the other hand I feel "Why??" - however much they question, we will never doubt and will follow God and what He has asked of us. God does not ask everyone to do the same. But I don't like people doubting our sanity/spirituality etc......

had a job interview yesterday and got offered the job grin

Dutchoma Fri 19-Jul-13 13:16:52

Blue Halleluhah.
PA how are you feeling about cutting loose from your church? Then they can talk all they like about you behind your back, but it wouldn't matter.

cloutiedumpling Fri 19-Jul-13 15:45:17

Lurking and praying, praying and lurking. Actually I'm skiving. It is DS2's birthday party tomorrow and I should be getting stuff ready instead of being online. Slightly nervous about having lots of children I don't know in the house. More than one person has told me I'm brave or mad!

SES wrote "prayers for all on this thread - for health, relationships, families and above all that the one true God will hold us all in his loving care, that we may follow the example given us by Christ and for the gift of the Spirit to guide us." Amen to that.

BlackeyedSusan Fri 19-Jul-13 17:48:34

"I am really enjoying this pleasantly warm weather! wink I am finding cool but very enjoyable, especially at the beach yesterday."

this has made me smile

it hsa been an emotional day. I lost and found quite a lot of money. please pray blessings onto the lovely lady who ent to aquite a bit of trouble to get it back to me.

AdmiralData Fri 19-Jul-13 23:11:42

Hello all! I am new to my local Church having finally given in the the calling I've felt for some time now. My DS 4months and I are due to have a double baptism in August. I devote my time to taking care of my son and my parents who are quite ill, I also contribute to the community and charities whenever I can. I'd really appreciate your prayers to give me strength and extra faith smile
It's really inspiring for me to read others stories on here, I wish you all the best x

BlackeyedSusan Fri 19-Jul-13 23:24:32

inspired? more a terrible warning grin [hormonal]

sorry to hear about your parents.

AdmiralData Fri 19-Jul-13 23:56:34

Thank you Black, my Dad is living with me and will be fine (God willing) but my mum is battling a demon, goes by the name Al Cohol :s I find a quote from Matthew 28:20 very strengthening, 'and surely I am with you always'. smile

Tuo Sat 20-Jul-13 01:00:19

Hello and welcome Admiral. It's good to 'see' you here. Praying for you as you prepare for baptism, for your DS too, and for your parents. That must be very hard with your mum - hard to know how you can help her, I mean.

Praying for you BES - even though you got your money back I bet you're still feeling the stress from when you thought you'd lost it. Praying, too, for you the kind person who got it back to you.

MHD - so good to hear that your DD is happy and having a good time, praying for it to continue and for her to make good friends who will support her and stand by her against the bullies.

PA - praying for you to feel sure in your decisions about the coming year. You know that your decision is the right one for you and your family and also for the work that you have been doing in Cambodia. What anyone external to the situation thinks or doesn't think is no-one's business. Praying for DD3 to stay as well and as strong as she can, and for DD1 to find a great job where she'll be happy.

Lovely to see you, SES and also Cloutie. Praying for your DS2's birthday party, Cloutie... I'm sure it'll be a great success. You're neither brave nor mad... it'll be great!

Prayers also for all lurkers and visitors and for those known to us who need our prayers.

Yuck! Terrible night. Prayers please that I am a blessing to my brood today not just tired and grumpy. Particularly for my bond with DD3 to keep on increasing rather than be marred by my tiredness.

KeepTheFaithBaby Sat 20-Jul-13 09:04:41

Morning all. Lurking and praying.

Definitely blessings for your money finder BES! I know that sinking feeling well.

Praying for energy and positivity Room. Also a better night tonight. Faithlet has not been sleeping so well in the heat.

PA what shame about criticising your choices! They haven't been privy to your chats with God, have they?! In glad it's been confirmed to you both. Praying you can trust in those plans and that you can shrug off the comments.

Hello to Admiral. Sounds like you have your hands full. Praying into your circumstances.

I am struggling a bit with anxiety - had to work hard not to go into panic attack last night. Think I'll go and see my lovely female GP. I'm also struggling with swelling /tenderness where I had my tear so I'll get checked out.

Have a wonderful weekend everyone.

Dutchoma Sat 20-Jul-13 10:08:53

Welcome Admiral I pray that you may find strength and inspiration from this thread as we all deal with our various difficulties. So glad that you are in touch with your local church and I am sure that your double baptism will be a great day for you all.

Oh Room it's so hard to deal with sleepless nights, hopefully the 'brood' will behave themselves today.

Faith good plan to see your GP, hopefuooy she will be able to reassure you.

And thank you Tuo for keeping up with all of us.

Bob's CO2 levels were up a bit from last time, but no indication that anything was drastically wrong. So it is just his general condition and the heat that make him feel miserable. We had a lovely visit from ds and Rose. Such a bonus that ddil could be there as well. I'm praying for her that she feels happy in her weekend away. "It seemed such a nice idea at the time", she said, "but I'm sure I'm going to cry at some point".

Best of suck with the party Cloutie and with the packing Blue

Bes have a nice day.

Tuo Sat 20-Jul-13 23:15:40

Hello all... slightly cooler here today. I know I shouldn't moan about the sunshine, but it was nice to have a break from the hot weather and get out for a nice long walk without feeling sweaty and exhausted.

Praying for Room to have a better night tonight, and for Faith to get good support from her GP for her anxiety. Also praying for Bob and for DILofOma, and for Cloutie - hope the party went well.

I think I may have sciatica. I have this stupid pain all down my left leg, which is worse when I am sitting (it was fine when I was walking around this afternoon, but it woke me up in the night just lying flat, and is really painful now, sitting at the computer). I am not sure that it is sciatica, but I have consulted Dr Google hmm and it seems to fit. According to Google there's not much anyone can do about it, anyway, so prayers that this flare up settles down quickly would be appreciated. I've had a large glass of wine but sadly it's not helping!

Kaykat Sun 21-Jul-13 10:15:34

Tuo praying it's not sciatica, thats painful and can last a long time, hope you can get to see your GP on Monday. Praying for the babies in this heat and that their mums can get some rest too. Also thinking of Mome, so horrible to have to work with someone like that, I pray that one way or another she will get out of your life soon.

I have an important couple of weeks coming up and just praying its all in Gods hands whatever happens. Solicitor needs to do a fair bit for me this week. She did quite a lot for me last week. Your prayers for her have helped.

BlackeyedSusan Sun 21-Jul-13 10:20:58



Dutchoma Sun 21-Jul-13 10:43:09

Heard from ds that they have done very well although Rose fell off the bed and ddil did not sleep that well.

jan13 Sun 21-Jul-13 13:41:09

hey everyone i just cannot keep up with the thread anymore but i think of you guys and hope you can still pray for me. im having a hard time lately, just feeling down and struggling to cope with dd as she is getting more demanding. i haven't been going to church and feel so far from God now. i don't feel comfortable at my church and don't feel up to searching for a new one right now. my dh and i have been separated for a year, and he keeps saying he will get in touch about things and then says he has been too busy, so today i have bagged all his stuff up and it is waiting for him when he comes to drop dd off. please pray cos i am a bit nervous about seeing him and telling him he has to take everything since there has been no moving forwards!

AdmiralData Sun 21-Jul-13 19:54:13

Hey Jan13, sorry to hear you are having such a rough time. Separations are never easy, especially if one person doesn't want to be clear about things. I hope it isn't having an impact on your daughter, I pray that your faith returns to you and you get the time and inspiration you need to find a church you like smile

SESthebrave Sun 21-Jul-13 21:54:14

Jan - praying for you that you will see God working in your life and feel his arms around you
KayKat - praying for the next few important weeks for you
TUO - praying for you and your suspect sciatica.
DO - sorry I've missed the latest situation with DDIL but praying for her, your DS & Rose and for you and Bob
Faith - praying for your feelings of anxiety and for a positive GP visit
Room - I'm sure you have been a blessing to your brood but hope you're doing better
Admiral - welcome and prayers for you as you prepare for your baptism. Also prayers for your parents with their own health issues.

Prayers for all, including BES, PA, MHD, Blue, Mome, BoxofDelights, Amber, Cloutie, Niminy and anyone else in need.

Please can I ask for prayers for our RCIA group. We start again in September for anyone interested in discovering more about the Catholic faith but we have an initial enquiry evening on Tuesday. We have no idea who is coming or if anyone is coming!

BlackeyedSusan Sun 21-Jul-13 22:53:45

aggggh. the frridge freezer has died. noisily. the children are still up. (just) I have taken food to a neighbour (down and up two flights of stairs) i have taken food to a friend half way across the city. (ok so it is only a small city) all the frozen stuff, a full four drawers, has gone into freezers. some stuff is in my neighbours fridge.

it has gone at the beginning of the holidays so i can get a freezer delivered without having to work round school runs. it may take about a week to clean up the hall and kitchen to get access to the freezer though.

there may have been quite a lot of swear words said.

Could I delurk to ask for some prayers for a rather complex funeral I'm leading this afternoon? The weather forecast isn't going to help as the widow is very fragile and I'm not sure how she is going to cope with the heat.

Praying lovely jan x

I cannot hear a thing out of my left ear this morning. It was getting steadily worse yesterday. I don't have a cold, I haven't got water in my ear either. Odd.

Oooo, praying for the Duchess of Cambridge!

Dutchoma Mon 22-Jul-13 10:38:50

That really touched my heart Greenheart and I am giving thanks to God that I can pray for that frail elderly lady and know that my prayers are heard and answered. May the Lord richly bless you.
Yes, also praying for the Duchess of Cambridge that she will have a smooth delivery and that she will be able to cope with all the fuss afterwards.
Praying for Mome's ear and BES' fridge/freezer. Praying for calm in the BES household.
Praying for the RCIA course, that the people who come have a real thirst for the gospel and find a blessing in it.
Praying for JAN to feel close to the Lord and for Blue who is packing up for the move and has a Very Clingy baby on her hands.

BlackeyedSusan Mon 22-Jul-13 11:16:46

all is calm.... they are at school!

also praying for a safe delivery and as painless as possible.

there was a massive block of ice in the freezer last night, so I used it to keep the milk cool overnight. later this evening i will go and fetch the milk from my neighbour and stand it in a bowl of cold water in my fridge insulated cupboard.

Thank you for prayers - the funeral was the most difficult one I've done but it went well and the fierce airconditioning was a real blessing.

Praying for all here.

I've booked a doctors appointment. Soonest I could get was 4.20 tomorrow. Still can't hear out of my left ear.

I said something very unwise whilst feeling frustrated on Friday night. It was about how I'm treated and lack of the right kind of support at Church. It's come back to bite me. It's my fault for not being assertive about it all in the first place and letting the feelings build. Please pray I can smooth things over and be open and honest but the words I speak bring life. Iyswim? Made a mess so far. Shooting my mouth off and it getting back to them <sigh> Real foot in mouth sad

Thanks for prayers. A kind friend took the girls out this afternoon for a few hours so I could get things done.

BlackeyedSusan Mon 22-Jul-13 19:56:19

bull shit mome. they should be looking out for people.

Their idea of support is to book a meal every 2 months, spend the whole night interviewing asking me questions, like the Spanish inquisition, tell me how to fix things, when neither of them truly grasps what it's like as a lone parent and juggling childcare and life in general and then send me home. I don't want them to fix things or advise me, I want to feel loved and accepted. Instead I feel criticised, judged and the subject of gossip in the Church office, although I cannot prove that! These two are my age. The proper Pastors of the Church are wonderful!

I don't want a meal every two months and then to be ignored at Church in between. Well I've said it already, they think they're helping but they're not. Of course she's not answering my call tonight. I've left a message but I do not hold out hope of my call being returned anytime soon. The text from her today should have been a phone call and after the kids were in bed. That's what I'd like. Not this farce of a meal every 2 months only, as their show of 'helping'.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Mon 22-Jul-13 20:54:12

That's good, Blue.

Sounds like they've been talking at you without listening or trying to walk in your shoes, Mome, so it's rather off of them (to put it mildly) then to blame you. (Sounds rather like my H, though!)

bes said it more succinctly! grin

BlackeyedSusan Mon 22-Jul-13 21:56:50

there is a massive thunder storm over my mothers. hoping she is ok.

BlackeyedSusan Mon 22-Jul-13 22:40:16

yep fine. just rung. it was a doozy of a storm though. therre were over 600 lightning strikes in an hourr .

BlackeyedSusan Mon 22-Jul-13 23:03:06

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Tuo Tue 23-Jul-13 00:47:33

Thank you for prayers... Pain hasn't gone completely (woke up with it back with a vengeance this morning) but is manageable with some use of painkillers... I'm hoping it was something and nothing and will go away of its own accord because I am a wuss and I hate going to the doctor's.

Praying for your situation at church, Momey. Please don't blame yourself... It sounds as if you are being fobbed off, and you were right to speak out. Also praying for your work situation. May God send you the support and love and acceptance you need at both work and chuch. Oh, and also praying for you to get your hearing back... You're having a tough time atm, aren't you? thanks

Praying for your mum, BES - I'm glad she's OK, and hope she wasn't too frightened. Also praying for your fridge/freezer situation. What a complete nightmare!

Praying for you, Kay as you face the next couple of weeks. May this be the beginning of a more positive time for you and for your DS.

Greenheart - I'm glad that the funeral went as well as if could in the circumstances. I read your message on my phone this morning and couldn't post as I was rushing to work, but was thinking of you.

Praying for jan - I'm sorry things are tough for you, Jan, but I'm glad you came back here... we always think of you and you're in our prayers.

SES - lovely to see you. Praying for your new RCIA group. May they be inspired by what you have to share with them and touched by God's love.

It's DD2's last day of primary school tomorrow. Praying that it's a positive one for her and not too sad. (She's going to a different high school from most of her friends...; it's the same one that DD1 is at, but DD1 wasn't that happy at primary school so was glad to leave that group of people behind, whereas DD2 has been really happy there and has some good friends.) May she have a good summer and make new friends easily at her secondary school.

GingerCurl Tue 23-Jul-13 01:08:50

Hi Tuo et al. (Sorry. I really am in thesis writing mode atm. confused) <waves>
I definitely need a miracle here. Deadline is approaching too fast and I am too tired to function. Brain is incapable of formulating sensible sentences. And now my industrial supervisor is playing up as is one of my case studies. ARGH!

Praise The Lord, DH is now free for the summer! He managed to hand in his last assignments yesterday so that's year one of ordination training complete gringringrin

We would really like to hear from our sending diocese ASAP about a curacy now as some dioceses are about to release details of un-filled title posts. Having been the first diocese to ask for matching forms back in January, it seems they are the last diocese to communicate where they have matched DH with. I realise this process is alien to most people but I hope it makes sense for those who have been through it!

Dutchoma Tue 23-Jul-13 09:54:11

Praying for all.
Giving thanks that dd was just a witness in an accident on the M1 this morning (on her way to get me for the spa day) She's still there and we will be late for it. it happened in heavy rain, two cars completely smashed up, kids in one of them. Lord have mercy.

Tuo Tue 23-Jul-13 10:21:31

Praying for Ginger, for Room and her DH and for DDofOma... Praying no-one was seriously hurt in the accident.

Ginger: remember that no-one is capable of rational thought, let along correct grammar and punctuation, in the final stages of thesis writing. This is why they have a category of 'pass subject to minor typographical corrections'! So don't worry too much about formulating coherent sentences; get something down now and correct later if need be. They won't pass or fail you on the basis of your grammar and spelling, I promise. Praying your industrial supervisor and case study come up trumps for you at the last...

Tuo Tue 23-Jul-13 10:22:44

... let alone (not along blush )... See I can't even type properly when I'm not under pressure. grin

BlackeyedSusan Tue 23-Jul-13 10:31:19

ah thank god for IT support. (children's dad) conection went down, the question should be how on earth did I even manage to log on in the first place this morning given the wire was so farr out of it's socket. does help when you know which wire you are supposed to jiggle grin

also thank God for milk for cereal. it has not gone off and the children and I have had/m eating cereal. oh and the coffee that keeps me functioning.

One of the Directors (AKA Deans) at college has told DH to contact the diocese and what to say to get things moving. The college want to be copied in in the e-mail and insist that things get moving ASAP. We're feeling more confident that things will move forward soon.

Oh RommForALittleOne I've been through the curate/title parish matching process and it is stressful. I'm assuming your DH is about to go into the final year? PM me as a survivor of the process if it helps!

Dutchoma Tue 23-Jul-13 17:21:36

I'm afraid the accident was to bad for 'nobody to be seriously hurt' but we have no way of finding out. The air ambulance was involved and the two cars were like mangled steel. dd was remarkably unphased and we had a lovely day once we got there.

This afternoon I have waved DH and DD4 goodbye and we hope to see them again at Christmas. I am feeling a bit sad <understatement of the century> But we know this is what God wants us to do.

I will be back on th thread properly after tomorrow.

Little update: Humble pie was eaten, honest discussion ensued and hopefully things will improve with said friend. Thanks for prayers.

cloutiedumpling Tue 23-Jul-13 18:45:18

Lurking and praying. Praying and lurking.

The party went really well. Lovely boys. Nothing trashed. I'd even do it again!

Praying for all.

Praying for PA. I know what it was like being apart from DH for months while he was in Iraq. It was hard but it was OK. I found my own ways of coping and living without him. I kept busy and carried on doing things that I enjoyed. You won't be apart forever, PA. Each day is a day closer to your DH coming home and God will never leave or forsake you so you aren't alone.

Tuo Wed 24-Jul-13 10:30:54

Praying for you, your DH and your family PA... It will be hard, but you know you are doing the right thing, and it's just for a short time. How is DD3? And has DD1 heard about the job that she was interviewed for?

sad about the accident, DO. Praying for all those affected, and for the emergency services and the work they do. Glad, however, that you were able to have a nice day with DD.

Thanking God for a new start for Mome and her relationship with her friend, for a fab party for Cloutie, and for progress on a curacy for Room's DH.

Hi ladies,

Thanks TUO Flights should arrive in Cambodia in about 5 hours time.

DD3 is doing ok, thanks. Still being sick, but not too bad now.

DD4 didn't hear back after the interview, so took that as a "No" sad. I am praying so hard that she gets a job soon, but I seem to be talking to the ceiling in this area at the moment. angry Please join me in prayer for her.

With my work situation(s) - one "small" job that I had agreed to is turning out to be not so small and very well paid! wink So I am happy sticking with the little ones I have for a while. Still the possibility of another in the Autumn. Meeting in church tonight, so might know more after that.

DO you asked a while back about leaving the church - well, have thought about it a lot. Unfortunately there are not too many alternatives here and there are rumblings that things could be moving (or someone might be moving. wink ) so I will probably stay to see it through this time and out the other side, rather than give up now.

Prayer for everyone on here. i ahve read through and been praying for you.

Prayers please nearly at the end of moving house. Van is going back tonight and there is rather a lot in here still that I don't see to fit in one car load sad
Unless our boot is like the Tardis.
I'm shattered and sore everywhere

Praying for a tardis for you Blue (or could you borrow a roof box?)

A curacy proposal can't be put forward to DH until the diocese knows if accommodation can be sorted for it. Hopefully that will resolve soon. Prayers also appreciated for DH who has an issue with an essay he submitted not opening up properly. Also for the BFing issues we are having. I have tried contacting a private lactation consultant (who is a Christian) but without any success. We can't really afford her anyway but I have to do something...

Oh Room that sounds tough. Has Tiktok et al been any virtual help to you? x

It's about tricky to get virtual help for what is most probably a posterior tongue tie that needs snipping sad I really could do with a very skilled person watching us feed and assessing Hannah's tongue. I'm still scarred from DS having his snipped but I think it's the best thing to do. She is finding feeding more and more traumatic. We're off to New Wine on Saturday then down to Southampton after that so some help ASAP would be great!

That should say a bit tricky

Ahhh I see. DS had his tongue tie snipped. Yes it was upsetting for a short while after, but it definitely helped. The guilt was excruciating after (as you know) but I'd never have been able to carry on bf without the intervention.

((Hugs)) hope you get the help/ advice you need soon x

I had to be referred by the gp and then waited a few weeks to see a consultant, who carried it out in 5 mins! I had to struggle on until then.

As my Mum pointed out at the time: 'in my day the midwives did it with a sharp pair of scissors there and then'. Lol! Times have changed grin

If you cannot get it snipped soon, could expressing and a special bottle teat help? Or is that a bad idea with nipple confusion and starting to prefer bottles etc...

Amber this thread may interest you, although I'm sure you've seen this before:

SESthebrave Wed 24-Jul-13 23:09:01

Thank you for your prayers re my RCIA group. We "only" had one potential enquirer show up but she was fantastic - already involving herself within the parish and eager to learn & grow. We also know of 3 others who are interested in coming when we start properly in September.

On a sad note though, one of the pharmacists I line manage committed suicide last week. It is so sad. She had battled with mental illness for many years and leaves behind a husband and 2 children in their early twenties. I've had to communicate the news on to the rest of our stores and staff and I'm feeling quite upset. Please pray for her, her family and friends. RIP Linda sad

I have read through and praying for you all.

For all prayer requests on here and for those in need, Lord hear our prayer.

Oh that's so sad! Praying!

Ignore my thread link earlier. It appears it's a hoax site, very distasteful though.

Tuo Thu 25-Jul-13 01:05:39

Oh SES... How sad. Praying for Linda's family, friends, and colleagues.

Prayers here also.

Dutchoma Thu 25-Jul-13 10:26:33

My prayers added too*SES*: for Linda and her family, and for the four people interested to know more about the gospel. Blessings to you all.

Prayers for everyone affected by that sad news SES. sad

Meeting last evening went as well as could be hoped for. - A LOT of high emotions and people feeling that God had told them very different things. The decision was made that the option that is best for me is going ahead. YAY!!! Good news indeed and I am hoping that it means that I will have a regular job for 12 hours a week by October, which is just exactly what I would love to do and I will enjoy doing it so much. (Also will have another couple of small jobs for another 7 hours a week, which should be enough to keep us afloat!) Yay God has been so good!!

DD1 doing some more job searching today - new approach - we are going to a close town and asking businesses if they need some seasonal work. please pray that she will be enthusiastic and optimistic and will not take rejection personally.

Dutchoma Thu 25-Jul-13 12:04:41

That sounds very Positive

KeepTheFaithBaby Thu 25-Jul-13 12:16:54

So sad SES. Praying for all affected.

That sounds good PA! smile

Prayers here too for SES.

So, how about an answer to prayer that I hadn't dared pray? I took Hannah to an infant feeding cafe this afternoon and saw a lactation consultant who snipped her tongue tie there and then! For free! Hopefully things will settle down over the next 48 hours then we're off to New Wine (with a baby who can feed without thrashing and pulling off the boob every two seconds!)

Dutchoma Thu 25-Jul-13 18:44:43

That is the most wonderful news Room I'm so glad for you. And for Hannah.

SESthebrave Thu 25-Jul-13 19:34:21

Room - that is amazing. Praise God for an answer to prayer better than any could hope for.

That's amazing Room! Definitely The Lord! Praise God!

Thanking God, we did it, house move completed! smile
Shattered now, looking forward to our holiday to Taizé next week.

niminypiminy Fri 26-Jul-13 07:55:32

Great news about the move, Blue.

Can I ask for prayer for my family. My mum is in hospital for tests with some worrying symptoms. We don't know whether it is something not hugely serious (though possibly difficult to treat) or something scary. Waiting for another endoscopy on Saturday. My mum being ill has brought all kind of tensions to the surface between me and my sisters. Please could you pray that we find a way to be at peace with each other, and that we'll be able to support each other and mum without falling out, and for strength to keep going (she's in hospital two and a half hours away from me so going to see her is massively tiring)?

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Fri 26-Jul-13 08:31:05

Brilliant, Room! And brilliant, Blue!

Praying, niminy.

I'm having a very relaxing few days with my parents, which is great for me and probably just what I needed. But please pray for my dcs, that they will get the support and care that they need while they are with their df. This is a huge change for them and a steep learning curve for him. He's probably more "fun" to be with than me, but as for noticing their needs and respecting their routines, he doesn't have a great past track record. He says he's trying to change and I'm giving him the botd for the moment.

Dutchoma Fri 26-Jul-13 08:37:07

Enjoy the few days with your parents Charlotte. Praying for you and all the family.
Praying for you too Niminy. And for your mum and sisters. Praying for peace for all of you.

And praying for Amber who is having quite a challenging time of it, one way or another.

Tuo Fri 26-Jul-13 09:51:31

Hello all...

Thanking God for a prayer answered in the case of Room and baby Hannah. Praying that she will be much more comfortable now and that you will have a good time at New Wine.

Also thanking God for Blue's successful move. May you be happy and blessed in your new home, and may this be the start of a wonderful new adventure.

And thanking God for PA's new job, another prayer answered! Renewed prayers for DD1ofPA in her job-hunting; praying that she finds a job where she will feel useful and supported and happy.

Praying for a peaceful few days, for Charlotte, and for her H to benefit from this time alone with the children too, and for them all to be happy.

Praying for niminy - for your mum's health, for the medical team caring for her, for your relationship with your sisters, and for energy (or stamina, or both...) to make the travelling bearable.

Praying for amber, for the strength to rise to the challenges that she is having to deal with.

And also keeping in prayer MHD as she prepared for New Wine, and, of course, DO and Bob, Kay, jan, and all others who need our prayers. (Oma - how is BoxOfDelights doing?)

Prayers too for a friend and colleague. I knew she'd had a tough childhood, but she has just opened up to me about the extent of the mental and physical abuse she suffered, and I feel so sad for her. I thank God that she has had the strength to move beyond that suffering and to find ways of living with the scars of it.

BlackeyedSusan Fri 26-Jul-13 11:38:29

thanks tuo. it helps to pray through you post!

thank god for cold milk, i bought back two frozen bottles from my mums house along with all the cool blocks we both own. (i did have to dig a bit of frozen milk out of the bottle though fo the children's cereal. ) we are going to look at fridges tomorrow.

soft play party later. I need to find a present.

Tuo Fri 26-Jul-13 12:16:00

And I left you off, BES sad blush

Praying for a happy party. Soft play in this weather sounds like my idea of a nightmare, but I'm sure the LOs will have fun!

Dutchoma Fri 26-Jul-13 16:01:29

Crayons BES That's what Alfie got for Bernard

Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the amount of organising, packing, lugging up and down the stairs to car etc needed, to be ready to leave first thing tomorrow for Focus. Wish I had a strong husband to help me do it all and for the other end, as I set up the tent. Please pray the kids are well behaved through it all and I have the energy.

Living on the third floor is sometimes a pain!

amberlight Fri 26-Jul-13 21:41:55

Thank you for the prayers. Yes, it's not been fun. And now there's a new not-very-fun to add to the other non-fun things. Trying so hard to stay positive and cheerful and upbeat and put a smile on my face etc...but it feels like it's going to catch up with me soon...
Keeping everyone in prayers.

BlackeyedSusan Fri 26-Jul-13 21:50:16

ahh yes, but you get muscles like tree trrunks mome [unhelpful] if tree trunks are all pasty white and flabby

can you park near the door or do you have a long way to lug all the stuff once outside?

i came back yesterday and carried a rucksack, 2 holdalls (quite light though) a camera case (llarge handbag size) and a carrier bag of food up the stairs. once i carried several kilos of pears (rucksack full) camera and both children. (combined weight of children was about 30 kg at the time so quite a while ago) the knees were buckling by the time i got to the top! i do quite often leave stuff in the carr overnight, locked in the garage though so not always possible.

i also tend to take one load down with the children, load it and them into the carr, pak near the door and go back for the rest while they are safely strapped in. yeaterday, they were old enough and sensible enough to go up and down with me for the first time.

i think it does not bother me as i always used to do the packing of the car. also there is no-one about to remind me how their h does thiis that and the other so it is less painful.

I've parked as close as I can. Maybe it bothers me as I'm knackered! Plus ExH was always great at loading and unloading the car.

madhairday Fri 26-Jul-13 22:39:14

Lots to pray for that I've missed in past few days, desperately trying to get this seminar done (have finished it) - so sorry for not being around. Also at my parents having a few days rest while dh on retreat.

Prayers all round, TUO your round ups really help me pray so much, thankyou!!

Great news Room on the feeding, and have a fab time at NW, we'll be at N&E next week.

Praying for you amber as things are not easy at the moment.

Praying for Blue in the whole moving chaos, and wow about the job!!

Praying for Mome on the church difficulties, and for PA too and DD1 and DD3.

Welcome Admiral!

Hello Jan, great to see you again! Praying for you, Kaykat and Charlotte as you go through very difficult times with relationship break ups at the moment.

Where is Mary?

Praying for Ginger and her thesis!

Praying for niminy, her mum and her sisters and their relationship.

Praying for BES in all the business of life.

Praying for you all, that you may know God's peace which transcends understanding and underpins everything. May you know freedom from fear and calm from anxiety. May you know stillness of heart and mind and joy in Jesus Christ.

You wonderful lot, you. Keep going, keep struggling on.

Dutchoma Sat 27-Jul-13 08:52:54

Mary is on holiday in the West Country.

Kaykat Sat 27-Jul-13 09:25:29

Praising God that DS had the happiest school year of his life. He was even disappointed to break up as he will miss his friends and teachers so much.

My beloved pussycat died this week all very sudden and unexpected. I had a strong bond with him and miss him desperately.

My H is accusing me of doing the abusive things that he actually did to me and that I am crazy and hysterical. Those of us with experience of abusive men know that this is very predictable but please pray that the people who matter will see through the lies. It also appears he has hatched some kind of dishonest plot, possibly with the help of his family, to try to prevent the fair division of assets. Lots happening in the next two weeks, I need to stay clear headed and strong. I am very thankful for my freedom and great relationship with DS those two things are priceless.

Kaykat Sat 27-Jul-13 09:27:29

Should have said that DS is missing pussycat desperately too sad

Dutchoma Sat 27-Jul-13 09:54:34

So sad to hear about your pussycat KAY. Cats are such a comfort. Praying that you will stay strong and focused over the next couple of weeks.
And thank you Lord for the strong bond between Kay and her ds and that he is doing well at school

BlackeyedSusan Sat 27-Jul-13 10:12:24

thought so mome. always worse when you have had to take over someone elses job when they should be here doing it. it took well over a year for me to get used to putting the car away in the garage ithout rresentment. i still occasionally get resentful that he comes and plays weekend daddy.

praayers amber,


(do you think that was loud enoough for her to hear?)

kay sorry about you lovely cat. what was his name?

hope everyone stays dry today. LOOK HERE

KeepTheFaithBaby Sat 27-Jul-13 10:16:41

Praising God for working through our circumstances. Kay it's great that despite your H's approach you aren't questioning yourself and know that it's him not you. I'm sorry for the loss of your cat. Delighted that despite the circumstances your DS had such a good school year.

What an answer to prayer Room! Hope it helps and you have a wonderful break.

Glad the house move went well Blue, praying you settle in quickly.

Praying for your Mum Niminy and the relationships in your family.

Life gets gradually easier here. Faithlet is coping better with being put down smile and I was just able to leave her with DH while I went for a 40 minute run. So nice to have a break and do something for myself. I came home, she'd had some expressed milk from a bottle and is asleep in her swinging chair. It's been so good to get a break I could cry with joy!

GingerCurl Sat 27-Jul-13 11:55:42

Partial answer to prayer to report. Industrial sponsor is playing ball now and the problems I had with them have been resolved in the best possible way. Thank you God for your faithfulness!
Now it's just the case study to sort out. Please pray that I manage to get hold of the necessary people in order to sort it out.
Praying for everyone as I read through.

I'm not resentful and I am used to having to do it all on my own after almost 4 years. But it's hard. Took half the time to pack/ unpack when married.

I think it's ok to realise that and wish you had help. No?

I'm here now but I've realised that I brought no potty. So it's wild wees all the way for the kiddos this week. DS has about 4 poos a day though, so that'll be a lot of trips to the loo shock

BlackeyedSusan Sat 27-Jul-13 21:50:36

wasn't sugesting that you were resentful, just me, and it is the jobs that the ex used to do that feel the worst.

good luck with the toileting. sounds like a long week of toilets.

niminypiminy Sat 27-Jul-13 21:54:47

Thank you for your prayers. Mum is now back home, and it looks as if there is nothing major to be scared about (she was having rectal bleeds which is quite worrying symptom). And I managed to talk to my sisters and for the moment peace is in the air. It helped so much to know that you were praying for me.

Great news Faith that you got a break. And Mome hope the week away (especially the toilet trips) feels manageable and like a good change -- though it's hard to feel you are getting a break when you're away on your own with children. Praying for you, and for all.

16 min walk to the big top from my tent. So I really won't want to forget anything tomorrow as I leave here!

Keep me fit.

Off to bed, to the sound of rain, thanking God for getting me here safely without getting lost, help with the tent set up and kids and just general lovely people to support me.

It's quite an incredible feel here and I feel honoured that I was able to come along. Such a God thing too, with the bursary and getting a place, as I'm not technically congregation, I just help on a course and am part of the parenting alone pastorate. So hoping the week will be a blessing. The kids have been great so far, even his nibs! Unheard of.

blessedhope Sun 28-Jul-13 00:53:01

Hello everyone! I'm new.

I would like to ask God to reveal Himself to some of the unbelievers and sceptics posting on this site, making the spiritually blind see and bringing them to the great salvation (Heb 2:3) and eternal life (Rom 6:23) found exclusively (John 14:6) in Christ Jesus.

I pray for the churches of this nation; that following the re-definition of marriage as legal contract by Parliament, they will hold firm on the definition of marriage as Holy Matrimony between a man and a woman (Mt 19:4-5) even in the face of social disapproval (Rom 12:1-2)

I pray for the gay and lesbian population of Russia, of all faiths and none, in light of recent developments there; that whether or not they live in a way that I and the Scriptures see as sinful, they not be subjected to inhumane or hateful treatment or scapegoated by their government to further its political goals.


Could you pray for my dear father and his second wife; she is seriously ill with a rare form of cancer, and is currently undergoing specialised radiotherapy at a university hospital far from home.

Dutchoma Sun 28-Jul-13 10:22:11

Welcome blessedhope.

Very worthwhile causes to pray for.
Also praying for your dad and his wife, that they might feel the strength and comfort of the Lord.
What kind of church do you belong to?

We had such a lovely day yesterday with the rain holding off till we had eaten the 'barbecue' bit of our tea (cooked indoors but eaten on the lawn)

BlackeyedSusan Sun 28-Jul-13 11:59:46

it is coming up to the anniversary of dads death and dd's birthday. getting a bit upset and worried.

also got to dig out the fridge from the junk in the kitchen.

Tuo Sun 28-Jul-13 14:11:33

Oh BES, anniversaries are very hard, I know, and it's understandable that you're feeling sad. Try to allow yourself time to grieve, but also see if you can find a happy way to remember your dad (go to a place he loved, listen to his favourite music, or whatever ). And I hope that focusing on your DD and her birthday can help to distract you a bit and will be joyful rather than giving you additional stress. Prayers coming your way...

Kay - praying for you over the next few weeks: thanking God for your DS's happiness and for your strength, praying that those who will make the decisions can see through your H's lies. So sorry to hear about your cat...

niminy - thanking God that your mum is home and that it's not anything too scary.

blessedhope - welcome! Praying for your dad and his wife, for all the family, and for the medical team caring for her. I pray that she is as comfortable as she can be, and that she knows God's love.

I really don't want to cause offence or to start a debate (this is not the place...), and I've agonised about whether to post this, but I have to say that, with the greatest respect, I cannot endorse your views on same-sex marriage and homosexuality in general. I don't know whether there are any LGBT posters or lurkers on this thread, and if there are I would not want them to think that your views represent those of all posters on the thread or of all Christians. I absolutely join you in praying for fair and humane treatment of all people, regardless of faith, colour, gender, or sexuality, and, in particular, in praying for an end to state-endorsed discrimination and violence against any minority group.

niminypiminy Sun 28-Jul-13 19:25:40

blessedhope I too don't think I can join you in praying for the church to hold to the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman, since one of my own prayers is that my beloved sister and her partner would be able to marry in church. But I do join you in praying for an end to scapegoating and discrimination in Russia (and elsewhere). And I am praying for your father and his wife, that she may find healing and peace.

amberlight Sun 28-Jul-13 19:40:12

Blessed, praying for your dad and his wife and all around them. Radiotherapy is very very good these days so I hope that there will be healing and a good life ahead.

I too cannot pray in all conscience, though, for the lesbian/gay marriage situations you describe. I'm part of the LGBT community and have many wonderful Christian gay friends who are the most marvellous contributors to society, to their children, and to their churches. It is such a sadness to them and to all who know them that they cannot marry. Civil Partnership is a legal contract and nothing more, alas. Their wonderful faithful relationships are no more defined just by a legal contract about finance than anyone else's marriage would wish to be. So I hold it all in prayer and gentleness, and hope for love and sharing of life from all. I certainly do pray for an end to the discrimination that people like me suffer, even if we did what we were asked to do and marry someone of the opposite gender. It's like they say - standing in a garage doesn't make you into a car. Marrying a man hasn't made me straight.

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 28-Jul-13 19:58:19

I have been dwelling on this issue too. My sister in law is a lesbian and has been with her partner as long as I have been with DH (about 6 years). They are a lovely couple, Wonderful aunties and I can't help feeling that they have the right to be legally married should they choose to be. Hate the sin, love the sinner keeps coming to my mind. I'm actually struggling with a friend who posted something on FB about this (you know, a photo of a couple with a bible verse underneath). It makes me very uncomfortable to the point I've hidden her updates at present!

I do agree with praying for all those persecuted though.

Blessed I pray for your Dad and his wife, for strength, peace, for those caring for and supporting them.

Mome praying you have a wonderful time, come home with renewed passion and strength and don't forget anything when heading to the big top! smile

amberlight Sun 28-Jul-13 20:07:19

(it's also useful for all to remember that churches fought for, and got, the 'quadruple lock' that means they cannot be forced to ever marry a gay couple. Also worth reading some of the theology about the way the words were interpreted from one language to another in the Bible and ended up being written as 'homosexuality' etc when the original meaning was often about the sin of rampant promiscuity. Something that gay couples no more indulge in than straight couples do. All very important to keep in prayer. I mention it in case lurkers or thread inhabitants fancied googling a bit about it so they can make up their own minds).

BlackeyedSusan Mon 29-Jul-13 10:20:42

ds is still asleep... in my bed though, scooped up in the night. waiting for a parcel to be delivered. birthday presents.

Can I please ask for pray yet again for DD1. Job interview yesterday went well and she should find out a yes or no this morning. I am fed up of praying that she gets a job. She has been saying "God can't love me because He never answers my prayers" I am struggling to answer this as, no, God never does seem to answer her when she prays. I know, I know the theology is scewed, but how do I answer her when what she says seems to be right. God doesn't answer my prayers when I ask for her, either. Maybe we will be proved wrong today!! I pray we will!!!!

niminypiminy Tue 30-Jul-13 08:56:36

Oh PA that is so difficult. I pray that she will have good news about the job, and I pray for strength for both you and her getting through this difficult time. It is so difficult to keep hoping when you are getting turned down for jobs. All I can say is that I know that God is with her in it, and that however worthless she feels because of all the rejections, to Him she is infinitely worthy and infinitely valuable.

BlackeyedSusan Tue 30-Jul-13 10:36:26

oh Pa. i have said exactly the same thing many a time, when i was going from temporary job to unemployment to temporary job. I don't think I have yet fully reconciled that to be honest.

BlackeyedSusan Tue 30-Jul-13 14:55:54

I am making slow rpgress with packing/clearring kitchen. it is not happening very quickly at all. we will have to go up tomorrow, after a trip to town.

I AM ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED TO SAY WE HAVE BEEN PROVED WRONG!!! grin grin grin Late this afternoon when we had given up all hope DD1 got a message to say that she has got the job and starts tomorrow at 10!!! Wooooooohooooooooo!!!!!!

< now ashamed to say that I had a rather heated one way discussion with God this morning in the car about how unfair I thought he was!! blush but I did end it by saying "I know you are God and I am not and I will praise you and thank you for loving us and providing for us no matter what happens!" It was good to get lots off my chest though! wink >

BlackeyedSusan Tue 30-Jul-13 19:55:38

oo congratulations pa's dd.

niminypiminy Tue 30-Jul-13 20:12:00

That is absolutely brilliant news PA!

(I reckon God can take it on the chin, too)

Tuo Tue 30-Jul-13 20:49:46

Fantastic news, PA and congratulations to your DD. And thank you God for blessing PA's DD with this new beginning. May she be happy in her new job, may she find friendship and support and satisfaction and self-esteem in what she does, and may this be a turning-point for her, with happier times ahead.

I also figure that God is big enough to take it (I hope so, because I've been known to throw the odd wobbly myself... blush!) and knows that you were motivated only by love for your DD...

BES praying for a miraculously self-tidying kitchen... Or, failing that, strength and stamina for you for the task.

Feeling a bit stressed about work at the moment: partly volume of work and partly a sense that my strengths don't fit very well with those bits of the job that are really valued, and that the bits that I most enjoy lie somewhere else altogether... and that I am juggling all those bits in a not-completely-satisfactory way. Praying that I can keep everything in some kind of balance... and make it through to my holidays at the end of August, because I have a feeling that I really just need a break from it all at the moment.

Praying for all on this thread: for those on holiday; for those at work; for MHD as she prepares her seminar for New Wine; for Kay as her legal situation works itself out; for Gingercurl as her thesis submission date approaches; for blessedhope's dad and his wife, for niminy's mum, for Oma and Bob, for BoxOfDelights, for JakeBullet's uncle and for all affected by ill health at this time; and for all those known to us who need prayers...

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 30-Jul-13 20:59:00

Wonderful news PA! All in God's timing eh? I'm so pleased and she can get started right away.

I admit I've had similar conversations with God, especially with regards to fertility issues - not just mine!

Praying as you work in the kitchen BES.

BlackeyedSusan Tue 30-Jul-13 21:11:01

i need it. but i can see the end in sight. I have to sweep and clean. empty the fridge of the remainder of it's contents, clear behind the door inthe hall and sweep up. Oh and then there is the washing up and putting away and clearing the edges of the woksurfaces so that things do not get knocked off.

Dutchoma Tue 30-Jul-13 21:12:36

Not long then now BEShmm

BlackeyedSusan Tue 30-Jul-13 23:27:34

oh my goodness. the freezerr has grown a greeny grey fur coat on the inside. i am now oonly managing a few minutes at a time before a rest. some will have to be done tomorrow, like popping the scooters in the drying room the washing up and taking out the massive amount of rubbish and recycling.

on the plus side, my kitchen now feels enormous! also, it was one of the jobs that desperately needed doing. blush it is where stuff that comes into the flat gets dumped... and forgotten about.

oh I give in...

Dutchoma Wed 31-Jul-13 08:47:20

And now it is morning and a whole new day ahead. Hope you manage to get things done without wearing yourself out completely.

BlackeyedSusan Wed 31-Jul-13 10:59:45

oh bother the milk fell in the coffee this morning. thank God for powdered milk. grin

ds is low on blood sugar and boy don't we know it.

madhairday Wed 31-Jul-13 14:25:46

That's such fantastic news PA smile Congratulations to DD1 and thanks be to God. It's so hard though isn't it, the whole unanswered prayer thing. God knows what he is doing, I know that, but I also have some choice words at times....and that is OK.

Right, seminar is all prepared, powerpoint finished. Now just nerves to contend with! Prayers much appreciated. It is on sunday. Can't wait to go though - v v excited.

Prayers and love to all

BlackeyedSusan Wed 31-Jul-13 15:29:45

right, off to town to order the collection of the fridge and buy a "gun" to put the sealer around the skirting boards. then home to empty hte hall of luggage and rubbish.

Dutchoma Wed 31-Jul-13 16:43:37

Make sure ds does not get hold of the gun. It could be deadly. grin

That's lovely news PA! Hurrah!

I'm sure the talk will be fabulous MHD and touch people profoundly. We'll be praying for you.

Still at Focus. Just enough battery to pop by, lying in my sleeping bag. The kids are tired, late nights and waking early in the excitement, is taking its toll.

Tomorrow is the seminar on relationship breakdown, run by a very special man who heads up the RDS course at HTB and I maybe called up the front to do a little testimony but he's working on getting the DVD clips of us all up on the screens instead, for the DVD being published for the divorce course. He left it a bit late to ask. So we shall see. Please pray people come and that God would meet with anyone hurting x

amberlight Thu 01-Aug-13 06:37:20

Keeping prayers going for everyone

madhairday Thu 01-Aug-13 09:26:09

Praying Mome, and praying for great blessing for your last few days. Is Focus a bit like NW etc? Hope you're having a lovely time smile

Prayers for everyone...

Thanks for all the congrats for DD1. Very happy and all going well.

Be excited MHD that God will use you and speak through you. (I am dog-sitter for a friend going there for next week)

Mome I pray that you have been refreshed and re-filled at your time away.

Prayers for DO and Bob, tuo, amber, cloutie, ninimy, ...... Oh no, this never works, cos I will leave people out, so huge waves to everyone and I always pray through everything typed here. Also, a prayer that any lurkers will come and join in and feel supported and loved as we can pray with them, too.

BlackeyedSusan Sat 03-Aug-13 09:50:42

well, I insulated the frozen mlk so well that it has not defrosted for breakfast. ds is eating toast which means that he will be less stroppy soon. that should be licking toast. aggghh I need to get him to eat!

I am waiting for the fridge freezerr to be delivered.

Kaykat Sat 03-Aug-13 10:21:51

Thanks for your prayers, so far so good. I have a big decision to make, maybe a change of direction, I need to decide what will be best for me and DS. Please please pray for me on Friday, i have to see H for the first time in ages, i have support and safety plans in place, I am very scared and I need a clear head and to resist any bullying.

BlackeyedSusan Sat 03-Aug-13 13:03:07

... <taps fingers>

still waiting for the fridge freezer.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Sat 03-Aug-13 22:02:36

Praying, Kay.

Hope the fridge freezer has arrived, BES!

And yay, PA's DD1!

Thanks for prayers. I had a good break and it seems the dcs enjoyed it, too. We've just had a few days away together and now they're with H again for a few days... and then I get them back and things will feel more normal for a while!

I've caught up with the thread having missed it all whilst at New Wine. I'm now staying with my parents for a few days. I have much to mull over from the teaching and God-encounters at New Wine. I'm fired up, expectant and nervous all at the same time about God's plans for us.

cloutiedumpling Sun 04-Aug-13 09:15:49

Lurking and praying. Praying and lurking.

Thinking of MHD today. I'm sure it'll all go smoothly.

Congrats to PA's DD. What a lovely answer to prayer.

I've been helping out at a holiday club at church all week. Twice as many kids as last year! Fantastic!

Hope the fridge is working well BES. Thinking of you Kay.

blessedhope Sun 04-Aug-13 17:27:48


I have been heavily involved in other things since I posted last Sunday,

I appreciate the prayers for my father and his wife.

I am aware that my views are not the only ones held in the Christian community, but in response to the people who said I should "read up on theology", I have already extensively studied the human sexuality issues based on Scripture and find the traditional position is the morally right one , with a proviso that no hatred, scapegoating or disowning of family take place, that no false witness be bore about the LGBT community (hence my disapproval for those "Religious Right Wing" groups who claim that they are the biggest threat to a moral society, link them to paedophiles, etc.) and that civil government may not rightly persecute or harm them as Russia and several African nations have made news for doing- however I do think legal marriage should be a man and a woman only.

I do not approve of homosexual conduct and would not ever attend any church which marries same-sex couples, as I see such "marriages" as 1)sacrilege and 2)blatant disobedience to God and believe they do not make sex between same-sex couples any less sinful.

I would thus like to dissociate from what Tuo said she was "joining me" in praying, as I do not consider sexual orientation on a par with race nor do I see it as something to be "not discriminated" against, at least in the Christian context.

blessedhope Sun 04-Aug-13 17:42:34

I was a little apprehensive about whether to write on marriage here, given that there is no longer a consensus among Christians and some people find the traditional view offensive, but decided that it would be wrong for me to withhold prayer for what I consider an important God-honoring cause for the sake of not giving offence- as then nobody involved in any controversy could pray publicly to God for the side their conscience believes to be right to be upheld.

For example, if a pro-life bill banning abortion was going through Parliament, some Christians would find anyone praying against it to be a cruel "baby-killer"; others would find anyone who was praying for it to be an equally cruel "sexist" who would be responsible for "forcing women to use coat-hangers". (I can see both sides.) If the only criterion was to not elicit a negative reaction from others, everyone would have to say nothing!

I included the part about the situation in Russia to show any LGBT people or straight same-sex marriage supporters here that I do not "hate" them but just think they should be celibate- and nothing anyone says on here will change my views, as I have already wrestled with this question for some time and came out determined to resist the pressure to "go along" with what is ultimately a secular position, at present dominant in our society, that everyone should be entitled to have sex with who they want.

amberlight Sun 04-Aug-13 18:06:28

That's told me.

amberlight Sun 04-Aug-13 18:19:02

er, bye

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Sun 04-Aug-13 18:58:58

That sounds like a good time at New Wine, Room.

Impressed by your energy, cloutie... I think if I were helping at a holiday club and was told that there would be twice as many kids I'd be terrified! grin

Tuo Sun 04-Aug-13 19:14:27

blessedhope - I am sorry if my views offended you. I expressed them here only because I felt that not to do so would give an incorrect impression of 'the Christian point of view' (in general) to any visitors to this thread, whether LGBT or not. And that is important to me, because this thread is a thread that exist for mutual support and understanding through prayer, regardless of one's denomination or theological position on the 'hot topics' of the day, and open to those who may not feel comfortable in a traditional church environment, to those who are unsure whether they believe or not...

The thread is, in short, a community - a community joined through love and prayer and in the belief that our God, who is a God of love, hears our prayers. It is not a debate thread (there are plenty of those already here and elsewhere, where controversies can be explored and discussed), and it does not have a 'party line'. We are Anglicans and Baptists and Catholics and many more... We probably cover a huge range of beliefs on human sexuality, women in positions of authority in the church, transubstantiation, and ... well, you know, the list goes on. But none of that matters here, because that is not why we come here. We come here to pray and to support one another, and that is all.

I am genuinely sorry if I offended you, and if, in attempting to look for what we have in common, you feel that I misrepresented your views in some way. I hope and pray that this thread can continue as a place where all are welcome. I also welcome debate - debate is good and healthy and helps us move forward together, understanding one another better even in our difference - but I don't believe that its place is on this thread. I do not want to have to leave the thread over this issue, and nor do I want anyone to feel that they cannot post here because of it. I pray that God may help us to find ways to transcend our differences in love and fellowship and mutual respect.

amberlight Sun 04-Aug-13 19:25:31

except we're not welcome as we are, Tuo. 43% of autistic people are gay/lesbian/bi etc. We're already not welcome because we dared to be born autistic and only 1 church in every 100 will welcome us. The odds of any welcoming us when we're also born gay are just about zero. I've learned this from one Christian group after another. It's why my faith is pretty much wrecked. But will hold all of you in prayers from afar.

Tuo Sun 04-Aug-13 19:31:26

All the more reason, amber, why you should be welcome here, in the great big open world of the world wide web.

amberlight Sun 04-Aug-13 20:23:21

My prayer? For an autistic friend, born lesbian, who was repeatedly raped by someone who wanted to 'teach her a lesson' about what her sexuality should be. When she got away from them, she found love with a kind, gentle and caring lady who has restored her life and soul, paid for her therapy, honoured her with Civil Partnership, and guides and protects her. They bring so much to society, to community, to all who know them and love them as friends. My prayer is that the loving God who I think brought her partner into her life isn't seen as a monster who wanted her to face that future alone from a loving and healing relationship that others take for granted. And my prayer is also for all the others I know of who face such a future, bound by rules that say 'you must either live alone in hell or face hell for all eternity'. I know no such God. But I know what fear it causes to be told that those few verses in the Bible are seemingly more important than all the others. A life alone in a world where autistic people already so often have not a single friend.... So....that prayer....Dear God bring your light to the darkest corners of hell on this earth. In the name of your loving son, our dear Lord Jesus, Amen.

Dutchoma Sun 04-Aug-13 20:37:08

Amber Just because there is one person who holds a view that makes you feel unwelcome it does not mean that the rest of us hold that view.
You know that you are loved and cherished by all of us here. Apart from this lady (?) there have been no others who have said anything that should make you feel unwelcome. Even though BlessedHope expresses a view that clashes with yours she says that there should be no hatred of anybody with any kind of views.
But, as TUO said, this is a thread where we support each other in prayer, not a thread where views on theology are aired.

I thank God for Amber's invitation to her party yesterday. There were many people, with many views, I didn't get to talk to everybody because it was just too much to take in.
Personally I work from the view point that people are perfectly welcome to disagree with me, so long as they love me.

Dutchoma Sun 04-Aug-13 20:38:46

x posted with you Amber

cloutiedumpling Sun 04-Aug-13 22:39:16

I agree - lets try to make this thread one where we support each other. I'm sure there are lots of areas where we would find that some posters differ on doctrine, not just the issue of same sex marriages. We don't need to have these debates here though and I think it would be good to leave them for other threads.

BlackeyedSusan Sun 04-Aug-13 22:47:25

charlotte and cloutie thanks. it arrrived. (aged about 10 years listening to and watching it come up the stairs and narrowly fit past the stupid soil pipes on the stairs.) slid it in the gap, then realised that I had left the plug attached to the back, (doh) anyway it is working, just trying to adjust the temperature. have also retrieved food from one friends house. I have to collect more food from my neighbour and dispose of the packging.

i managed to get to church. ds played in church a little but started objecting to being in church during the sermon so we left.

BlackeyedSusan Sun 04-Aug-13 22:50:49

oh we also sa the inlaws but haad to leave rapidly when h fed dd egg. we are all surprised that egg was in the product given. she is currently on the sofa having had a second dose of antihistamines. another will follow in the middle of the night.

amberlight Sun 04-Aug-13 23:02:34

I am so sorry that my distress is a 'difference in doctrine' for the rest of you. I'm happy to go somewhere else.

Tuo Sun 04-Aug-13 23:04:20

Popping back quickly with prayers for all... I'm off for a few days now, visiting my sister and also seeing my parents.

Praying that MHD's seminar went well (think it was today, but if not that it will go well when the time comes).

Praying for Room - lovely to have you back - and for Charlotte -ditto.

Praying especially for Kay, for clear-headed decision-making, and for strength in seeing your H again.

Praying for Oma and Bob, for the energetic cloutie, for BES's freezer (did it arrive?), for Faith, for niminy's mum, for blessedhope's stepmum, and for PA and her whole family, but especially DD1 (so good to hear some good news on that score smile).

And praying for amber and for her friend, for acceptance and love to come your way. As ever, Oma puts it so well... thanks

Here's a prayer I particularly like, which I am praying for myself and for us all...

"May God bless us with discomfort at easy answers, half truths, and superficial relationships, so that we may live deep within our hearts.

May God bless us with anger at injustice, oppression, and exploitation of people, so that we may work for freedom, justice, and peace.

May God bless us with tears to shed for those who suffer from pain, rejection, starvation, and war, so that we may reach out our hands to comfort them and to turn their pain into joy.

And may God bless us with enough foolishness to believe that we can make a difference in this world, so that we can do what others claim cannot be done."


BlackeyedSusan Sun 04-Aug-13 23:29:05

OI AMBER don't go. PLEASE! i like to have you around. smile

KeepTheFaithBaby Mon 05-Aug-13 06:57:05

I like having you around too Amber. You're certainly loved and accepted for who you are here.

cloutiedumpling Mon 05-Aug-13 06:59:51

Sorry Amber. I did not mean to cause offence. I see no reason for either you or Blessed hope to leave the thread. And, FWIW, I never said I agree with her. Please don't go.

Kaykat Mon 05-Aug-13 07:58:24

Dear Amber your gentle prayers and advice on this thread are a huge blessing, please don't leave. I'm so sorry to hear of the prejudice you face on a daily basis and admire you for tackling it so boldly.

amberlight Mon 05-Aug-13 07:58:58

I'm not offended. I'm autistic. If I am talking about running away from something, it's panic caused by brain 'epilepsy' due to fear/shock/exhaustion, not flouncing. I think flouncing is the term people use when they threaten to go away unless they get their own way. Is that right? This isn't a thread about autism, but having an autistic prayer person on it means people have to know what they are looking at. It's not flouncing. It's not offence-taking. Look at and see what happens. The left hand brain is what mine does when faced with negative unexpected stuff. The right hand brain is what other people's brains do. It hurts. It's real physical pain. It's like an epileptic seizure event. It is a physical problem not an attitude. I avoid places where this is going to happen to me wherever I can. Unfortunately, the only safe space to pray in becomes my own home. So stuff that tells me unexpectedly that the way I was born is an insult to God can cause me intense pain followed by exhaustion. It's not my bad attitude to debate or the range of beliefs, and no I'm not trying to get my own way. I'm trying to stay safe.

MaryBS Mon 05-Aug-13 14:01:34

I've been away, so missed the controversy. I am another one who has studied the scriptures extensively, and have continually explored this issue in faith with no reference to secular pressures. Put it simply, God made us in his image. God is love. God made people different, yet still in His image, and part of that difference is gender, sexual preference, and many other things. Having initially held the view that homosexuality is a sin, I now believe in what I posted earlier, and so much more. I also believe that Christians will not know the absolute truth on this until we meet Him face to face. And given that there is no absolute answer on this, I believe I would rather be judged for being too liberal than too harsh, although being judged is a scary business. But I trust God to judge me, and I have less faith in other Christians applying God's judgement on me. When it comes to it, perhaps its best to let Jesus decide who is wheat and who is tares? That isn't done till harvest time.

Finally, this is a prayer thread, a place that should be safe. A place where at times we need to bite our tongues on doctrinal differences and trust in God's great goodness, for we ALL believe in that. If this isn't going to BE a safe place, then I will continue to pray, but don't feel I have a place here.

SESthebrave Mon 05-Aug-13 20:08:10


My prayer is for each and every person posting or lurking on this thread. For the reassurance of your love for us as the wonderfully unique individuals we are. I pray for this thread as a place of community, support, acceptance and prayer where all are welcome and, through your Holy Spirit, may we grow ever closer to you and your Kingdom.

I ask this in Jesus' name

MaryBS Mon 05-Aug-13 20:20:32

Amen smile

Yes MHD Focus is very much like New Wine in some ways. It's a big Church plant and HTB Church get together and was at Haven Golden sands. It was lovely. Lots of great worship and teaching and I did have to go up the front and talk a little but it was good, God was with me, so although my heart raced I was articulate! So exciting that more and more Churches want to run a Divorce Recovery Course and that we are releasing a DVD to help them. Some people did come and thank me afterwards. I also made a wally of myself when Nicky Lee tried to thank me as I was so busy trying to find someone to pray with a lady (as I was praying with someone else, I asked my lady to hold on a moment) that when he tried to thank me, all I said was: 'I need someone to pray with this person'. I didn't say thank you at all in reply and by the time I finished ministry he'd gone. I'm really rather socially awkward at times!

I can also see from FB that your talk went well MHD, well I gather so grin Can't wait to hear all about it.

Hello to blessedhope btw. I didn't find your first post on 28th July too controversial as I accept this area is a hot potato. I had felt that people had responded with grace and thoughtfulness on their points of view and prayers. But your recent responses make me feel uncomfortable. It's difficult to get a 'tone of voice' on here and you sound possibly defensive? Your stance isn't unusual, however as people have put far more eloquently than me, we are a very diverse group of believers here and this is a prayer thread. Please do post prayer requests here and feel welcome but as others have said, I think deep theological debates are for other threads.

I'm so undecided on this issue myself. I have very many friends of all sexual orientations. I haven't read any books, I haven't studied this area extensively either. I'm not a Theologian at all. I just love God and others and try not to judge anyone at all. As I have suffered enough stigma as a divorcee in the Church at times and because my son is on the spectrum and has real sensory issues. So there's my thoughts as I see them. I think they make no sense at all. But I nodded along to Mary's post very much. As I agree with so much of it. My faith is almost childlike in so many ways, I'm hopeless when Atheists try and pick my faith apart and why I believe, as I cannot answer well. I just do! God's always been my bedrock and loves me whole heartedly despite all my frailty's.

I'm exhausted and my flat is still a mess and unpacked since my return. So prayers for strength and to get my home into order would be good. I feel like it is an assault course, just to get to the loo right now. No time it seems to do anything!

Are we having a meet up oma? What was decided?

Dutchoma Mon 05-Aug-13 21:18:21

Yes, the meeting is going ahead, pm me for details if you would like to come.

SESthebrave Mon 05-Aug-13 21:57:23

Please can I ask for prayers for Linda, her friends and family. It was her funeral today. So sad and tragic and very hard to find any sense of it all. The service was beautiful though and didn't avoid the difficult issue of depression and suicide but remained positive. There were some beautiful quotes and poems too.
Please pray for me and DH too as it's brought back memories for him of one of his colleagues who committed suicide a few years back. Earlier we had a huge (but thankfully short-lived) row. We were both in the wrong and have both taken responsibility and said sorry but we don't often row like that and it was in front of the children I'm embarrassed to say.

BlackeyedSusan Mon 05-Aug-13 22:28:08

yay mome.

my frridge looks like something out of an advert. grin doubt it will stay that way for long.

BlackeyedSusan Mon 05-Aug-13 22:58:03

sorry x post.

Mome yay for such a good time away.

SES prayers for everyone touched by the sadness of Linda's death. And for you and DH tonight, too.

I would like to echo your lovely words from earlier, too.
I don't think we all need to agree about everything on this thread, but we should always remember that we are here to be supportive and encouraging for each other and also as a witnesses of Christ's love. I am reminded of John 13:35 "By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” Please don't let anyone on this thread be hurt or made to feel disrespected, this is not showing God's love as a good witness.

I would like to share some real answers to prayer. DD1 is doing so very well after months of praying for her depression. She has come so far over the past few months and is becoming more like her old self, nearly day by day. She smiles so much more, she is loving her new job and working with some lovely people - tomorrow she will be waitressing for Princess Anne <shameless boast!! wink > She is looking forward to going off to uni in September. Thank you all for your encouragement and support while things were tough for her. She has recognised that God has answered our prayers - seeds have been sown! Just a huge thank you all and thank you to God for answering all of our prayers.

amberlight Tue 06-Aug-13 08:35:46

Praying through.
Yes, I'm here. I'm scared but here.
Coming 'out of the closet' as a gay Christian is one of the scariest things. I've been face to face with death threats, hate mail, ostracism, had my Christianity work taken away from me by some, been removed from a prayer group, had my autism adaptations stopped by one faith leader as a result...and been so thankful for senior clergy who have assured me that they do not want that set of attitudes for me.
If anyone anywhere thinks LGBT Christians come out for fun or to be rude to others and God, they must have a strange sense of the word 'fun'. It would be so much easier and safer to hide. But I don't want to live a lie to God and to fellow Christians my whole life. Where is the honour in that? I did not choose to be gay, any more than others chose to be straight. Romans says a lot about the people that God despaired of; "envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy" but the churches so often go on and on and on about how only gay people are really hated by God. It's horrible. I already know i'm not getting into heaven - from the Christians who tell me that because I'm autistic, I don't have a soul and am not really a person. It doesn't stop me wanting to make the world a better place by sharing our faith with others and hoping at least they get in, though.
So, for years this place, this thread, has been my prayer home. But it is a prayer home for an already very bruised and scared person who already knows she was born an automatic 'fail' in God's eyes. I know this isn't a debate. But I wanted to explain.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Tue 06-Aug-13 09:23:28

from the Christians who tell me that because I'm autistic, I don't have a soul shock shock shock

So that's what you're up against? Unbelievable! I couldn't think what prejudice autistic people could suffer in the church, although I believed you when you said there was a lot - now I know. Talk about inventing new ways of doing evil... That's just crazy. So sorry you've had to endure that, amber. Goodness, some days it just seems a long wait till the understanding and rest of heaven, doesn't it? It certainly does for me!

Urgent prayer request from me: I have found a house. From what I can see of it, it looks perfect. But they've batted me away straightaway because of my lack of guaranteed income. Please pray that my brother will agree to and be able to be my guarantor and that the rental agents will accept him. I'm talking to him today and then going back to them if he can do it.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Tue 06-Aug-13 10:07:32

Forget it. They don't want me. My brother agreed very quickly to be guarantor and the agents accepted that, but the landlord thinks it's too many kids. Too much wear and tear on his 4-bed house. AIBU to think he actually thinks it's too few adults?

BlackeyedSusan Tue 06-Aug-13 11:59:20

oh charlotte, that is disappointing.

amber. there are some really thick people out there huh, no soul? how daft can they get. oh and they area bit thick on the theology front too. perhaps they have forgotten that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. some people do like to label things as a sin, usually something they arre not, and then they are "all righteous" by not doing the thing that they don't do anyway.... except they are judgmental and nasty and do a whole heap of other things. hmm

hope we can make it a safe place here for you. you have already helped me with ds a lot (as has mary)

(here is a nice trivial "problem") have been given some money to spend on the children's future presents. so I ordered stuff. it came in the most enormous box which fills half the kitchen. confused and I have to find somewhere to put the contents away til next christmas/birthday and rip up the box to fit in the recycling. i do wonder what i waas thinking at the time of ordering.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Tue 06-Aug-13 12:02:18

I have sent an email to appeal - single mum and 4 kids does look bad, but when they know it's meeee I'm sure it'll be fine. grin

Thinking positive till hopes are dashed again. God, I hope you've got some good reason for all this!

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Tue 06-Aug-13 12:11:42

That's not a serious prayer... This is in your hands, Lord. Your will be done.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Tue 06-Aug-13 12:13:56

Agent just rang... landlord has agreed to meet me!! As soon as I pressed send on that last post. grin

BlackeyedSusan Tue 06-Aug-13 13:33:42

oo charlotte.

I have compacted the enormous box into two carrier bags and caan once gain walk around my kitchen. I have also managed to put aaway the boxes that came in the parcel. that is christmas and birthdays sorted for ra couple of years. grin

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 06-Aug-13 13:41:34

Amber John 3:16 clearly states anyone who believes will have eternal life (it doesn't say anyone unless they have autism!). I believe you make a valuable contribution to this thread/group and know you have given valuable advice. Please stay around both for your own benefit and ours!

bes enjoy the fridge and hope you get those presents sorted soon!

Charlotte I prayed when I read your first post and pray if this is the right home for you all He will make a way!

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Tue 06-Aug-13 15:07:16

Wow, bes, you are soooo organised!

BlackeyedSusan Tue 06-Aug-13 20:22:01

charlotte, if only you knew how far from the truth that was. grin

if i was that organised, i would not have spent several days digging out the old fridge freezer! i intend to have a tidy kitchen floor for at least a week!

Anyone fancy praying for calm and wisdom for dealing with Hannah's sleep? Or just more sleep? Oh and DH has a meeting with the diocese tomorrow about a curacy...

Dutchoma Tue 06-Aug-13 20:34:30

Praying Room. And for all others too.

I am having trouble finding respite care for Bob again. I thought we could go straight into the home he was at previously but they are decorating and not taking respite care people at the moment. The people I have rung either have not answered the phone, have no rooms with private toilet or, in one case said that they had a room available now but were not sure they could promise to still have it in 3 weeks' time when I need it. What good is that?

SESthebrave Tue 06-Aug-13 22:33:03

Room - praying for your DH's meeting and also for Hannah's sleep.

DO - praying for a solution to the respite care.

Today's prayer request from me is a sleep related one too. DS has started crying as he's scared at bedtime and didn't settle tonight without extra stories and one of us sitting with him until gone 9pm.
DD has been waking a couple of times in the night teething. I could really do with some decent sleep tonight. She woke up about 10 mins ago so I've dosed her with teething granules and ibuprofen. Praying she will settle for the night now.

Praying for sleep, peaceful sleep for you SES.

Also, Lord, please help Hannah go back down in her Moses basket because I'm exhausted and I need a wee!

Kaykat Wed 07-Aug-13 08:04:16

Amber that's so sad, you do know they are talking rubbish don't you? I remember something I heard a preacher say a long time ago, when I get to heaven I will probably be surprised by who is there and even more surprised by who isn't there. One of the saddest thing I encountered in church was a couple who were unable to accept that their son was a Christian because he was gay. When I asked the mum whether she thought he was born gay or chose it as a lifestyle choice she said without a doubt she knew that he was born gay. So I asked her why she judged him for the way he was born and she couldn't answer that.

Lots to pray for on here and some great answers to prayers too.

Remember me on Friday, I am anxious but strangely have stopped waking at 5am every morning worrying which has been happening for months and now sleeping through until the alarm.

amberlight Wed 07-Aug-13 09:26:15

Kaykat, no, I don't know that they are talking rubbish. Autism = totally utterly literal understanding. And because only 1 in every 100 churches has ever even thought about including us, it all makes a horrible sense... confused After all, if we were people and loved by God, they'd want us there, wouldn't they.

niminypiminy Wed 07-Aug-13 09:54:39

Praying into all these situations, large and small, and for strength, patience, love and peace for all.

My mum's back in hospital with a recurrence of rectal bleeding and anaemia - scary symptoms. And today is the day a new lot of junior doctors comes onto the ward - aka the worst day to be taken into hospital.

niminypiminy Wed 07-Aug-13 09:57:57

Oh - and on Friday we are supposed to be going on our one week's holiday in the whole year - I so want to be able to go. I know that's selfish, but we wall been longing for this. But I can't let my sisters take all the strain. And the following week is my first ministry training summer school ...

amberlight Wed 07-Aug-13 17:26:52

Please can I ask for prayers for DH who has been told to go for an MRI scan at hospital tomorrow morning to check that he hasn't had a mini stroke. Praying for everyone else.

BlackeyedSusan Wed 07-Aug-13 17:53:11

oh amber. sad

Dutchoma Wed 07-Aug-13 19:50:28

Oh Amber that's all you need. Many prayers from me too.

Praying for you and your DH, Amber.

BlackeyedSusan Wed 07-Aug-13 21:31:51

lots of prayers amber, while i have been washing up and watching the sunset.

Tuo Wed 07-Aug-13 21:44:12

I'm back!

amber - I am so glad you're still here! I've been thinking of you so much, and praying you'd stick around. I hope that people's reactions on this thread have made it clear that not only are you welcome here, but you are valued and cherished for who you are. I am so sorry to hear about the terrible things that people have said about you and to you; it's no wonder that you are bruised and hurt. But, please God, this is still a place where you are safe and among friends. You bring so much and your words have helped me a lot too.

And, yes, PA's quote hits the nail right on the head... it's all about how we behave towards one another. I was reading 1 John this morning and this quote jumped out at me too: 'Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble' (1 John: 9-10). I pray that we all grow in love for our brothers and sisters in Christ. I can think of no greater honour than to be recognisable as a disciple of Jesus by the way that I behave towards others. I know that I fall short of that ideal all the time, that I am often stumbling around in the darkness, but I am clinging to it as an ideal, nonetheless.

I pray too for amber's DH, for a swift recovery and lasting health, and that the MRI gives reassuring results.

I pray for niminypiminy, for your mum's health, for good care for her in hospital at this stressful time (I was admitted with a MC on 1st or 2nd August 1999 and had amazing understanding and loving care from a young doctor with more than a passing resemblence to Doogie Howser MD, but who clearly really cared about this career he was getting into). I pray also for your forthcoming holiday - may you manage to get away despite everything and may it be restorative and peaceful for your and the whole family.

I pray for Room, for a better night's sleep tonight for you and for Hannah, and for your DH's meeting about his curacy.

I pray for Kaykat, praying for wisdom for you and for all involved in making important decisions about your future and for insight for those who need to sift truth and lies in order to understand your situation, and thanking God for the strength and resilience which you have developed with His help and inspiration (and through your own hard work and determination).

I pray for SES, for better sleep for both your children tonight, with peace for DS and pain-free teeth for DD. I also pray for the friends and family of Linda and for all affected by her death.

I pray for a solution to the respite issue for Oma and Bob, for a solution to present itself and for Bob to be happy and comfortable with it so that Oma can relax in his absence.

I pray for charlotte and your house situation, echoing Faith's words... if this is the home for you, may God make it available to you.

I thank God for a great week away for Mome and I pray for MHD at New Wine, praying that her seminar went well. I thank God for presents for * BES*'s DC and for a tidy kitchen and functioning fridge. And I thank God that Mary is back... it's good to see you. And finally (though I'm sure I'll have missed someone...) I thank God for so many answers to prayer in the case of PA's DD1. May she continue on this upward trajectory and find real joy and fulfilment in her life.

BlackeyedSusan Thu 08-Aug-13 00:30:38

aggghh. they have both gone off simultaneously like airraid sirens..

one hss been given the sick bowl the other had first aid administered.

I have been tidying all day... not that you can tell. the waashing mountain has shrunk but I still need a snow plough on each foot to plough through the mess on the living oom carpet. dmittedly it is slightly less dense and deep, but ds managed to remess it up while I was washing up. hmm the clothes in the wardrobe are now packed in so tightly that they would remain even if the rail was removed.

been praying for faith and hannah too. may they and the other littlies sleep. <eyes ceiling warily>

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Thu 08-Aug-13 09:36:24

Hope the rest of your night was better, BES and the littlies are all recovered. I think you do an amazing job, btw, with such small children still and no adult support.

Remember it's totally normal to have a chaotic house in those circumstances. This too will pass! In the meantime, I do enjoy reading the updates because you're so inventive with your descriptions!

Hope Hannah has slept most of the night!

BlackeyedSusan Thu 08-Aug-13 11:46:38

oh ye gods.


just had a nasty encounter while trying to fold washing. ears are ringing over the entire neighbourhood. please pray I can continue sorting out without any other nasty encounters. --the culprit will be sent forr cremation next bin day.

1 (frrom ds, the age of the spider that has ceased to be)

BlackeyedSusan Thu 08-Aug-13 12:26:07

riot act hs been read. computer haas been banned. two childern are tidying up.

BlackeyedSusan Thu 08-Aug-13 12:34:48

oops mke that one tidying and one in time out for being rude bout mummy's who mke him tidy.

Lol bes. I'm waiting to discover a spider as I have washing everywhere, open suitcase - still not unpacked and I've had the windows open for weeks. Plenty of chance for them to enter. Mind you it's Autumn I really see them. Bleurgh!

My head hurts today sad I feel groggy and tired constantly.

I have a scan on 2nd Sept for my head actually. As I have a lot of headaches by an old head injury.

Off to see SALT with DS at 2.30. Please pray he behaves enough to be assessed properly by them. It was one thing his community paediatrician wanted done, as part of this long convoluted process. Tbh his main issues are sensory with a smattering of struggling to communicate and playing well with other kids. Iyswim? But I'm no expert, I just want him to get the help he needs. But in one short appointment it's tricky to get a feel for a child's needs IMO.

BlackeyedSusan Thu 08-Aug-13 13:47:01

the salt we had as erlly good. she has done throrough assessment of him. it is one of the things you need to do on the asd diagnosis path. see it as a step along the way.

amberlight Thu 08-Aug-13 13:54:07

Thank you for prayers - consultant happy with DH and has sent us home

niminypiminy Thu 08-Aug-13 14:02:28

Mome, praying the SALT appointment goes well, and that DS cooperates. When you're going through the diagnosis process it all seems so endless, doesn't it? And praying for your head -- that must be worrying.

Amber that's great that your DH seems to be ok.

Things are really not looking good for my mother. They are now going to do a full colon examination to try and find out what's wrong, but in the meantime there's the risk of a major haemorrhage, which is incredibly scary. My sisters have insisted we go off on our family holiday tomorrow, though I may have to just come back if something awful happens. Had a very scary conversation with my sister yesterday about the possibility mum will die in the next few weeks sad.

So I have to say that I'm very pleased with God's timing and the delay with finding out about a possible curacy for DH. We're a bit overwhelmed by the match we've been given. It was my number one choice if we could go anywhere but it is a nightmare in terms of practicality. We are very excited and buzzing one minute then shocked the next. I never thought it would feel like this but we haven't exactly had a typical parish as a match.

Thanks for all the prayers for Hannah's sleep. We've just arrived home so I'm hoping that normal Hannah sleep will be resumed.

oh Nimi sorry to hear about your mum. (((hugs))) I pray that you can have a good time away despite what is happening here.

Amber - good news about DH. I am sure you are relieved.

Room - how wonderful for you and DH. Exciting times ahead!

I have a job interview tomorrow - I would really love this job!!

Only flying by now....I will be back!

Fiona24 Thu 08-Aug-13 20:07:37

Reading through this thread and praying as I do ..

Tonight is not good. Remembering my dad whose anniversary it is and my dear oldest son, very, very sadly estranged from us and suffering from a difficult mental health problem. Long to hold him again.

Also, beginning to panic about a hospital visit next week following a visit to the GP - thickening lymph nodes/sore breast. May be nothing at all - or not too much - or may be more serious.

Settling into a new job and that's hard.

Finally, another son's A2 results out next week and he is pretty anxious as this year didn't go so well.

Prayers, come to think of it, for all children (and their parents) collecting results roundabout now. May they know that they are previous and wonderful no matter what their results are and that they are young with a lifetime of learning ahead of them. It doesn't end at 16/12/18 - that's just the start!

Sorry to ask for prayers for a few things here - but feeling shakey and worried. Been listening to Cwm Rhondda - sung at Dad's funeral and so inspiring, I think.

Dutchoma Thu 08-Aug-13 21:47:01

Welcome Fiona. You are among friends here. Let us know how you get on with your medical appointments. Anniversaries are hard.

Can't make much sense about what you are saying about the parish match Room, but that is probably because I don't know the drill. Glad Hannah slept better.

cloutiedumpling Fri 09-Aug-13 07:14:36

Praying for all as I read through.

Kay - thinking of you today and praying that you'll have the strength you need.

Praying for all the tough situations on here as I re-read them.

I'm struggling a lot now with DH's vicar of his potential curacy. He's spent two lots of 1.5 hours in the phone to the vicar so that they can get to know each other a bit and question each other. The church sounds amazing but the vicar is coming out with little gems such as 'I don't believe that such a thing as a work-life balance exists' and that he works a 60 hour week and thinks that a 50 hour week is totally normal and acceptable to ask DH to do. He doesn't believe in the idea of working two out of three sessions a day and that you should just work at the office all day as well as doing all the evening stuff. When asked about if I can get involved, his comment was that his wife just looked after the children when they were small and couldn't get involved at that stage as she couldn't fit it in around children and his work. I don't know if we can work with a vicar like that sad

niminypiminy Fri 09-Aug-13 10:03:15

Room that sounds unworkable with, and tbh the Vicar sounds like a bit of a nightmare. I pray that a better path will open up before you.

Praying for all who are in hard places. And thank you for your prayers. It's so good to know that you are being prayed for.

BlackeyedSusan Fri 09-Aug-13 11:20:01

hmm shock angry

work life balance was modelled right at the very beginning... along with plenty of feasts and holy days. twonk. hope the situaation gets better.

kay praying.

BlackeyedSusan Fri 09-Aug-13 13:48:16

i could weep. still tidying the living room and progress is slow. it was a terrible mess. pray for energy and motivation to carry on.

cloutiedumpling Fri 09-Aug-13 16:53:47

Oh Room, I don't know what to say. I wonder how his wife felt about him working those really long days? Or if she ever told him? I wonder if she might be able to talk some sense into him and if it would be possible for you to have a chat with her, either now or when you move there?

amberlight Fri 09-Aug-13 20:26:13

Praying through each message

Thanks for the support. I want to meet the vicar and chat with him myself before I dismiss the opportunity. It is an amazing church but I don't think God wants DH to put it before his family or marriage. We have a few ideas to put to the vicar about keeping everyone happy.

SESthebrave Fri 09-Aug-13 21:42:45

Room - that does sound tough. I think you're right to try and talk to the vicar though and see what comes of that. Praying....

Niminy - praying for your mum, your family and you. Hope you get to enjoy your holiday.

PA - how was the job interview? Praying that it works out.

Amber - praying for you and your work

DO - prayers for you and Bob. Is there any progress on the respite care?

Fiona - welcome. Prayers for you as you remember your Dad. Also for your eldest son, exam results and GP visits

BES - prayers for energy and motivation!

Mome - how was SALT? Prayers for you, your appointment in Sept and your DC.

Also holding TUO, Cloutie, Charlotte, MHD, Kay, Jan and anyone else lurking or in need.

If you haven't seen it, can I direct you to this thread for prayers for tunnocks and her DH. here

BlackeyedSusan Fri 09-Aug-13 23:15:19

phew. we have worked really hard, and are about 3/4 of the way through the room. 92/3 done and done some of the remaining third.

it is amazing how far one jigsaw can get scattered, mix in a miillion pieces of all the toys in the toy cupboard (pot of magnetic letters, duplo, pot of foam letters, five million crayons,) a ream of pictures the remains of several attempts at model making and cutting and stir with a stick....

Tuo Sat 10-Aug-13 00:31:29

Praying for all, but remembering particularly Kay today. I hope it went well, Kay.

Praying for niminy's mum and for the medical team caring for her; for niminy's sisters too; and that niminy and family are able to have a peaceful family holiday, despite the circumstances.

Thanking God for a good result for amber's DH and continuing to hold amber in prayer.

Praying for a good outcome for PA from the job interview. I've been thinking about MrPA and DD4... how are they getting on? Are you able to talk via Skype?

Praying for Room (and MrRoom and the LittleOnes) for a solution to the curacy situation. Talking to the vicar face-to-face is definitely a good idea - keep your options open, especially if the church is as amazing as you say.

Fiona - welcome. Anniversaries are hard, but I pray that you can remember your dad with happiness as well. Also praying for your sons in their different situations. I pray that your eldest son finds health and happiness and finds his way back to you. I pray for your younger son as he awaits his results and for you as you wait for your hospital appointment. I pray that this stressful time passes and that you find peace and calm on the other side.

BES - continuing to pray for a magic self-tidying flat (What? Isn't it working? wink) or - failing that - for energy to see it through.

Mome - praying the SALT appointment went well.

And Oma continuing to pray for a solution to the respite situation.

Kaykat Sat 10-Aug-13 08:25:00

Thank you for your prayers it means a lot to me. It went well better than I expected. He was calm and mostly reasonable and some positive things were agreed. I was composed and very clear thinking only got a bit upset once when he described his cheating as a technicality but quickly regained composure.

Kaykat Sat 10-Aug-13 08:28:44

He lied a few times but I was able to disprove some of the lies with my evidence and I now realise how obvious it is when someone lies, not just to me but to outsiders as well.

Dutchoma Sat 10-Aug-13 10:09:35

Well done Kay, so glad you could disprove the lies. And glad of the positives.

I went to see the room in Raunds, I think it is about 18 miles away, but Wellingborough is in the middle between N'pton and Raunds so convenient for ds and his parents-in-law. The first room I saw, on the ground floor was ok, fairly small, but stank of pee. The second one on the first floor smelled a lot better and I said so. The manager then assured me that the downstairs room would be deep cleaned beforehand so I went for that. He wanted me to 'think about it' but I declined as I feel we just don't have any choice.
Another thing happened: one of the doctors from the hospice called on us, I think in his free time and out of the kindness of his heart. Bob had met him, I had not and he was such a positive influence. Of course nothing changes the situation and Bob has every reason to be quite depressed and he agreed with that. He thought anti depressants could make a difference, but only marginally. We shall see.

Praying for you, DO.

madhairday Sat 10-Aug-13 18:17:08

Hello everyone. I haven't been able to load this thread on my phone while I was at NW but you were all very much in my prayers.

Amber, dear, lovely Amber. It makes me so very sad to hear of the abuse and persecution you have suffered from so called 'christians'. You are always an inspiration to me, an example of a follower of Christ who always makes me want to be that bit better at it myself. I hope that more churches all the time are getting themselves sorted and being welcoming and inclusive. You're such an important part of this thread here, our family in mumsnet.

Lovely to see Mary! smile

Room, I have to say that raises this great huge red flag for me, because I have friends who have had the same type of TI - and have been worked into the ground, and never see thier family. Our TI was amazing - he said from the start he believed dh and I were in this together, and that dh should work two sessions a day and should always be in at least around tea time as family life is so very important. With you having such young children it is even more important you find someone supportive like this, and someone who thinks the spouse is as integral as the curate. I will pray for a good meeting and for wisdom for you all.

Thanks so much for all your prayers for the seminar at NW. It went really well, I think...well, everyone said...and lots of people came for prayer and said it was what they needed. A couple of MNers were there, was lovely to meet up. Had a wonderful, amazing week, full of God encounters and incredible worship and teaching....loved loved loved it.

Dutchoma Sat 10-Aug-13 19:03:15

That is so good to hear MHD

GingerCurl Sat 10-Aug-13 19:50:13

Room many years ago when I was studying theology we had a lecturer who said that too many priests and pastors do not prioritise properly in their life. (I remember this very clearly because I thought it was something that most people, clergy and lay people alike, should hear.) Basically, he said, God should come first. Then your spouse, followed by your children and any other dependents. Then, in 4th place comes the church and work... I think he was right.
Lurking and praying at the moment.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Sat 10-Aug-13 20:27:52

Love all this talk of godly priorities. I have struggled over the years with being less important than H's work, but I think I believed it was right and I was just being arrogant to want more.

amberlight Sat 10-Aug-13 20:30:51

MHD, thanks. V glad to hear of your good week.
Still praying for all.
Next up on the prayer list here, working through dismay that a Christian church group were prepared to pay a fee for autism training to a non-autistic man (he copied me into the email they sent him), but wrote to me to tell me I could do the training but there was no fee available. And I have to work with this group in September and really really don't want to. I don't feel safe with a group that tells me lies and expects autistic people to work for nothing because we're not worth what normal people are. I thought we stopped treating people like that when we got rid of Black slavery. Prayers please for what on earth to do about this.

BlackeyedSusan Sat 10-Aug-13 22:44:28

phew, shattered. been into town for a local event and had small bony bummed wriggly boy on shoulders, and later slightly larger girl on hips dancing. I now have an achy neck and shoulders and legs. but think of all those calories! must not eat chocolate

amber that is terrible. good job you have told us which church... they may have been having to hold the phone receiver about 3 feet away from their ears while they got screeched at in crossness. i may be slightly (understatement) upset on your behalf. angry

Tuo Sat 10-Aug-13 23:16:32

Welcome back, MHD. I'm so glad that it went well and that you had such a lovely time. smile

amber - echoing what BES says... I'm angry on your behalf. I really think you should challenge this church, and ensure that they know that you've been made aware of the discrepancy in how they are treating you compared to the other contributor. If you've already agreed to do the training for nothing and don't feel you can go back on that, then ask them to make a donation, equal in value to what they are paying this other chap, to the charity of your choice. Praying for you as you decide what to do about this.

Gingercurl - great to see you! Have you submitted? Prayers for you, whether you're still finishing or waiting for your viva... And thank you for those words and that reminder. I am working very hard on a realignment of priorities along these lines, but it's very hard to break of out of ingrained patterns of behaviour and away from what has become 'normal' for me/us. Praying for myself that I keep in mind always what is most important and manage my time and energies accordingly. Charlotte - I'm so sorry that you suffered so much because of this kind of selfish behaviour, and I pray you find self-belief and happiness as you break away from it.

Oma - praying that the respite care will work out well in the end and that the manager is as good as his word as far as the cleaning is concerned. And thanking God for that good doctor who came to see Bob... praying that he can help in some way.

Kay - thanking God that yesterday went as well as it could have done: you have been so strong. Praying that you reach a positive resolution of some of your practical issues soon, especially as far as the house is concerned.

And BES - praying that you're not aching too much tomorrow!

Kaykat Sun 11-Aug-13 08:45:24

Please pray for DS as he begins to resume contact with his dad. I hope that he has developed enough independent thinking these past few months not to be taken in by any lies or skewed values and beliefs. It bothers me to see him so grateful to his dad for beginning to resolve problem which he should never have created in the first place. He's happy though and that's what matters. I may never get home but I may end up with a little house all of my own and I like that idea. I have wanted to move back to a country cottage for a long time and there are some lovely rural areas near the school where DS could fill the place with friends. This will be decided in more detail in the next couple of months.

So sorry to hear of more discrimination Amber.

Room that sounds awful i don't know how it works but can you ask for an alternative if it comes to it?

BES you make me laugh.

Oma I hope the room works out ok I hate it when you get that smell of wee in a care home there's no excuse for it you don't get that in a hospital.

MHD well done you are brave and amazing.

Praying for you all x

BlackeyedSusan Sun 11-Aug-13 15:21:47

i made church. I had a lovely converstion with someone who started at a similar time. we managed whole sermon, though i missed some as ds was talking.

amberlight Sun 11-Aug-13 16:47:01

I ran away from church sad which isn't the finest moment of my life

Dutchoma Sun 11-Aug-13 17:01:11

Hope the church are ashamed of themselves for making you.

amberlight Sun 11-Aug-13 18:48:07

They didn't make me. Just can't handle coping right now

SESthebrave Sun 11-Aug-13 20:31:23

Amber - praying for you that you won't have to continually face discrimination and feel like you have to cope. Also that this progresses to you being supported and valued for who you are.

Kaykat - prayers for you and for DS. Praying for continued strength for you and for wisdom for DS.

MHD - New Wine sounds like it was amazing. Prayers for everyone who attended to feel continually inspired.

DO - continued prayers for the right respite care to become available

Praying for all for strength, love and God's blessings.

I've had a lovely weekend. Nothing special and very busy but great just the same. Just hoping for DD to sleep well tonight as last night she reverted to waking up 3 times again hmm

I also have a difficult conversation to have at work tomorrow so would appreciate your prayers for that. Whilst I was on Mat leave, everyone had their laptops upgraded and when I came back I asked to get mine done. They've upgraded my email account but I don't have WiFi access in the stores whereas those upgraded do. This would really help! I phoned our Regional Admin guy on Friday to arrange this upgrade and he asked why I thought I should have it. I explained that WiFi would help and that everyone else had had the upgrade but his response was "You've not sold it to me. I don't think I can arrange that." I explained that had I not been on mat leave, it would just have happened and he still didn't seem to think I needed it. Now I know this is nothing major but he made me really angry and I even suggested he was discriminating against me to which he just laughed. I phoned my HR Partner and she was livid and advised me to phone him tomorrow and tell him that I wasn't asking his permission, I was asking him to arrange it and that if he needs authorisation from my boss, then fine I can arrange that. She also suggested I complained to his line manager. I need to have both of those conversations tomorrow and I'm not looking forward to it!

KeepTheFaithBaby Sun 11-Aug-13 20:47:33

Evening all!

SES that's pretty unreasonable! Praying you can make them see sense.

amber it's awful that you felt in such discomfort that you had to leave church sad praying about the course funding and how people at church are with you.

DO praying for the right respite for Bob and for strength for you.

kay praying for you and your DS. You're doing a fantastic job smile

MHD I'm delighted that New Wine was so good. Praying for lasting impact. Also praying for your health.

Room praying for sleep!

On that note, things seem to be getting a bit easier here. Faithlet was still cluster feeding every night. No matter what she was feeding until 9-10pm most nights and it was grinding me down. She'd take a bottle but still dependent on me to settle. However something appears to have shifted and the last two nights we've tried a bit of formula and a massage after her bath. Not sure whether its those or just her age but she's gone to sleep by 8pm! Suddenly I can imagine that we might be able to go out for dinner and leave her with a babysitter in the near future! Hallelujah!

SESthebrave Sun 11-Aug-13 21:12:05

Faith - thank you.
Great news about Faithlet settling better. I think DD was about 10 mo before we got her into a routine of going to bed for about 8pm! Praying that she continues to settle well and you get that evening out before long.

Not sleeping too well right now so praying through the concerns here.


Dutchoma Mon 12-Aug-13 08:32:03

Bob woke me up with a terrible tummy ache at 2am. He had not slept since 10pm. In the end we decided to go to A&E where they checked him out for constipation for 3 days and diarrhoea (sorry if tmi) after that. They checked him over and could not find any cause for the trouble so we were home at 8am. The whole escapade has taken it out of him, I have having second wind grin

Is he still in pain, DO ? Prayers for you both today and praying that you can both catch up with sleep today.

I am just going off for my first day at a new job......eeeek!! Excited actually, but nervous too.

Please pray for the county where DH is....trouble brewing. Dont want to say too much as internet/facebook is being shut down by government and we need to be careful. Please pray that he is safe and for peace there. Tanks on streets, armed forces and violence. Big day on Thursday which could be explosive.

Dutchoma Mon 12-Aug-13 11:15:38

No he is not in pain at the moment, but very weak and anxious. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing was not precipitated by anxiety about my cataract operation and him having to go into care so far from home. He just woke up and had something to eat, now he has gone back to bed and I think I am too and see if I can get some rest.

madhairday Mon 12-Aug-13 12:34:13

Oh DO, praying for Bob, and for you, that today will be restful and that Bob will feel more peaceful.

Amber, I'm so sorry that church became too difficult. Have been praying for you as I've been reading your FB status. [*]

SES that is horrible, the manager bloke sounds awful, praying for a good resolution and for conversations to go ok.

Praying, PA, for your new job and also for dh, praying for protection, safety and peace for him and peace about it all for you.

Faith, praying Faithlet continues to sleep better for you. smile

Happy birthday to Mary!

Not feeling well today, maybe it's everything catching up, but v short of breath and in pain. However we're on the sofa having a PJ/Harry Potter marathon day, so that's a good thing, and hopefully will be able to not go downhill more, as we are off to Germany at the weekend.

BlackeyedSusan Mon 12-Aug-13 18:23:57

off to mums at short notice, having expected the painter today and found he is not due til wednesdday/thusday. I could do with some rain here to delay him a little. grin

Tuo Tue 13-Aug-13 00:32:50

Ridiculously busy week this week, but I'm checking in when I can and praying.

Praying in particular for health for MHD (PJ/HP day sounds like just what you needed after camping!);
... for a restful day for Oma and Bob;
... for peace and acceptance for amber (I've had situations in my life - when I was younger - when the 'fight or flight' situation has been so strong that I've just run... I know it feels horrible, but sometimes it is literally all you can do);
... for future happiness for Kay and for strength for your DS as he resumes contact with his dad;
... for SES's work situation (that's totally out of order in my view and I hope you get it resolved);
... for PA's new job and for MrPA's safety;
... for BES travelling to your mum's;
... and for all who need our prayers right now.

Kaykat Tue 13-Aug-13 11:33:49

So H told some lies to DS I didn't tell him they were lies just listened with interest and hope he realises for himself. More worryingly H asked him to keep secrets from me and it has upset DS especially since I told him a few days ago he shouldn't worry about keeping secrets and could tell his dad anything he wanted about our lives. I guess I should expect ongoing knobbish behaviour. DS has had a wonderful healing time for several months so hoping he has the emotional strength to cope with it.

Hope Bob and MHD are ok with their current health worries.

Dutchoma Tue 13-Aug-13 11:58:15

More stress for Bob and me! He has not done a wee for over 12 hours and we are waiting for a doctor to call to see if he needs a catheter. Apparently, even with all the emphasis on home care rather than hospital care he will need to go to A&E to have it fitted.

Dutchoma Tue 13-Aug-13 12:28:57

But the issue got resolved and I'm going out! Cinderella will go to the ball!

How was your time out DO? Did Bob need a catheter in the end?

Dutchoma Tue 13-Aug-13 20:03:50

It was only a short visit but I got a Reiki massage (did not quite get the point of that) and a Reflexology massage. Don't see the deeper effect of that either but it was extremely relaxing and I fell asleep for a few minutes.
No Bob did not need a catheter as he 'went' before the doctor came. I rang immediately, but he rang back and said he would be happier checking for himself and did so. He was a very nice man, only three inches shorter than ds who is 6'7 1/2". Bob seems more cheerful after his visit.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Tue 13-Aug-13 21:01:06

I am in the process of applying for the house that they nearly didn't let me see! It's a bit nerve-wracking because I have to give details about my income and there's not much to detail! My DB is being guarantor so I'm hoping he'll prioritise these forms. He has a lot of disposable income, so it should be fine, but I am still worried I won't be allowed to rent the place after all this. It is just so right - it will be a big knock if that happens. Please pray that it all falls into place quickly.

Badvoc Tue 13-Aug-13 21:01:07

Tuo...thank you for including me in your prayers. I know I haven't been here for a while. Have had a lovely pm from Oma.
We lost my beloved dad very suddenly on 27th July. He was only 67.
We were at a family wedding and he collapsed. Dh and I performed CPR but they couldn't save him.
It was his funeral today.
I feel utterly bereft.
My sister was on holiday and my brother practically catatonic with shock so it all fell to me.
To add to the trauma my poor mum suffered a heart attack the same night brought on by grief and stress. (She is doing well and on meds)
It really has been the most awful time in my life.
I have tried to talk to god and I can't.
I am too angry at him.
I know I should be thankful that dad didn't suffer. I know I should be thankful that we were with him and he was not alone. That he was not driving when it happened, but it's hard.
I just want my dad back.

amberlight Tue 13-Aug-13 22:10:04

Badvoc, no words....just here with you...
...and with everyone else...

KeepTheFaithBaby Tue 13-Aug-13 22:10:50

Oh Badvoc I'm so, so sorry to hear that. I don't know what to say. It is hard to see the positives so early on in a bereavement. Just allow the emotions to come and go. Be kind to yourself. I'm praying for you and your family at this time thanks

Charlotte praying this house becomes your new home.

DO I'm glad to hear Bob didn't need a catheter and you were able to relax.

Tuo Wed 14-Aug-13 01:18:17

Oh Badvoc - I am so sorry to hear this news, and I am praying for you and your family. I am glad to hear that your mum is making a good recovery, at least, and I pray that things will get easier for you all, little by little, day by day. These things take time, and it's entirely normal that you're feeling raw and hurt by it all now. Don't worry if you can't pray right now: we can pray for you and with you, and we're virtually holding your hand across the ether.

Praying, too, for Cinderoma and Bob - for a calm day tomorrow...

Praying for Kay's DS - that his eyes be opened to the lies he has been told, and that he continues to grow in strength and understanding, so that he is able to maintain a relationship with his dad, but with enough distance that he does not allow himself to be manipulated by him.

Praying for Charlotte's potential house. Remember that the forms are generic ones, but not quite 'fitting' with all the boxes doesn't necessarily mean that you won't be accepted.

And praying that MHD is feeling better today.

Oh, Badvoc! Of course you want your Dad back. You must be in shock sad I'm sorry that you have felt alone and let down. Sometimes life doesn't make sense and terrible things happen. It feels so unfair when that happens to us. I have a picture in my head of God crying tears of grief over you. You are not alone even when you feel lonely, hurt and confused. I guess it may make you feel even more angry to think of God sitting and watching but not doing anything. But He does want to comfort you - to scoop you up like a little girl and hold you tight forever sadsadsad praying blessings upon you and healing upon your grieving family xxx

Tuo what are you doing up? I have a good excuse grin

DO I'm glad that the situation resolved. Poor Bob must have been in pain. I'm happy to see you nodded off for a few moments. It was worth going after all you had to deal with. Praying for refreshing for you, both physically and spiritually.

Kay I'm so pleased that you are telling your DS to be open and honest. Your attitude will make all the difference and I'm sure that God will honour you in that decision.

Charlotte praying that the Landlord will not be silly and precious about his house and share it with you so that you get a lovely home. I hate how hung up we get about our houses after all, they belong to God and we can't take them with us!

MHD praying that you can breathe easily and that this is a short, post-NW blip.

Badvoc Wed 14-Aug-13 09:11:23

Thank you all.
Dh is off this morning but has to be back at work this afternoon.
I have woken up with a dreadful headache so am going to have a cup of tea and see if it goes off.
My mum has her 3 sisters with her til tomorrow....after that I am not sure what we are going to do. My sister and I were taking it in turns to stay with her at night (my brother won't) but its hard for me because if the dc.
My bil is taking my nephews back out to their holiday home for the last 2 weeks of the hols do my sister should be a bit more free to stay.
I'm so tired.

GingerCurl Wed 14-Aug-13 10:04:15

Just popping in to say that I have a thesis! 80,589 words. I've sent it off to the industrial sponsor for approval (defence related) before I can submit it to the uni for examination. The industrial sponsor has been messing me around a bit with the approval process but, because the person who is suppose to check it has been away with work and then on holiday until this week, it has meant that I had an extra few days to knock it into shape. When we've explained the situation with the sponsor to the uni, they have been brilliant and just asked me to keep them informed of the progress. AND I had a short but really nice conversation with my internal examiner the other day too. Nothing special as such but it meant a lot since I've always felt on the back foot with her.
Thank you for your prayers and support. I'm off on holiday now with DS (unfortunately DH has to work sad so won't come with us) for a couple of weeks. Unless something completely unexpected happens, I should be submitting at the beginning of September. :-)

GingerCurl Wed 14-Aug-13 10:05:12

Oh, and as always I have been and am lurking and praying.

madhairday Wed 14-Aug-13 15:25:48

Badvoc I am so very sorry for your loss. What an awful thing to happen, it's no wonder you feel so hurt and angry. It's OK to be angry at God. Praying for peace and especially for comfort for you, your DMum and the rest of the family. With love.

Ginger that's fabulous, I knew you would do it! Very proud of you smile

Keeping praying for you all.

I still feel low and have a lot of crap on my lungs but taking it easy ready to go on holiday.

ps if anyone wants to listen to the seminar I did on contentment in suffering you can download it here but it isn't free, sorry...

Badvoc Wed 14-Aug-13 15:40:48

Thank you MHD.
I feel lost.

Dutchoma Wed 14-Aug-13 17:13:36

Well done Ginger, you deserve your holiday.

BlackeyedSusan Wed 14-Aug-13 22:41:29

sad badvoc. so sorry for your loss. it is such a shock. been there, done that and just got though the first anniversary, so lots of sympathy and hand holding.

well done GC.

good luck with the house.

ds is still awake.. it is 3.32 am here... well according to the computer hmm it has abit of a wobble when it is turned off. confused

Badvoc Thu 15-Aug-13 07:53:23

Thank you BES. I am sorry for your loss x

BlackeyedSusan Thu 15-Aug-13 08:30:19

oh ye god's i as woken at 8 by the sound of the crane starting up, knowing that the painter would shotly be appearing at the windows!

ds is tired and stroppy. as am i

got to get them ready to go out.

Dutchoma Thu 15-Aug-13 11:07:47

Mome's ds is in hospital with a 20p coin stuck in his throat. It's not moving and may need to come out by way of a small operation. Dd is being cared for by a dneighbour.

Badvoc Thu 15-Aug-13 11:14:27

Oh no! Poor thing. Hope he will be ok x

It's in his oesophagus behind his heart. Stuck good. X rayed last night and again this morning. Not moving into stomach. Yet!

The plan is to feed him lots today and x ray again tonight. Otherwise tomorrow it's an endoscopy.

It's all good. He's calmed down a bit now. He was sooo freaked last night and it's uncomfy. He's reached acceptance now. More worried about DD as she was dumped and was worried when I left.

Badvoc Thu 15-Aug-13 11:34:53

Glad he is more comfy.
What a worry for you all!
Love to all of you

Dutchoma Thu 15-Aug-13 11:35:59

Love and prayers

madhairday Thu 15-Aug-13 14:26:15

Oh poor ds, mome. Praying it all gets sorted out soon and praying for peace and calm for you all.

Cuddledup Thu 15-Aug-13 17:49:43

Badvoc I'm really sorry to hear about your father's sudden death. My condolences to you and all your family- you are in my thoughts. When my (elderly) father died I was knocked for six even though it was expected - so I can't begin to imagine how awful you feel. BUT Like you, I felt bewildered and angry because your whole landscape has suddenly changed. I found the kindness of friends, family and strangers (esp lovely MN) keeps you going. Strangely I found going to an acupuncturist (who allowed me to talk lots) really helped. You will come through -but it takes time.
mome I hope your DS recovers swiftly.

KeepTheFaithBaby Thu 15-Aug-13 18:35:17

Gosh Mome! Praying it moves with food!

Badvoc Thu 15-Aug-13 20:53:51

Thank you cuddledup.
I wish I could sleep. His final moments keep replaying in my mind. It was such a horrific experience. I keep thinking I could have done more - but I don't know what. I can't even remember that last thing I said to him...something stupid like "I will see you in a minute".
I have no idea how I am supposed to move on from this. Or how.

KeepTheFaithBaby Thu 15-Aug-13 21:09:57

Oh Badvoc sad I think 'last words' are a bit of a Hollywood thing. I have no idea what my last words were to my Mum and vice versa. My advice would be to focus on remembering that he knew you loved me (its obvious to me that you did, very much!). This is still so very, very new and raw. I'm trying to avoid Mum died six years ago. I miss her every day, some more than others. The strangest things in life remind me of her - the smell of sterilising fluid, cleaning the toilet, every time I look at a coat I hear her saying You don't need any more coats!. Ultimately parents are a huge part of our lives. I wouldn't want to reach a point where I stopped missing her. However, somewhere along the way I learnt how to live my life without her by my side. So it doesn't get easier as such but you will learn how to cope with it. In time. It's ok to feel like the world is ending right now though.

Update: It's moved down. We're home. Need to keep an eye but it should pass through ok now.

So so sorry to hear about your loss badvoc, sounds so harrowing sad Praying x

BlackeyedSusan Thu 15-Aug-13 22:05:28

how are you mome? are you coping? any sign of movement? praying for all three of you.

Very tired. Barely got any sleep last night and long day. Flat a mess but I'm in bed relaxing now.

Thanks for asking grin

DS had a humongous nap this afternoon, so he's only just konked out again or I'd have been in bed sooner.

Tuo Fri 16-Aug-13 00:56:48

Hello Cuddledup - it's nice to see you again.

Still praying, Badvoc... Really lovely wise words from Faith. In time, if you find you are still reliving the trauma, then counselling might help. But to feel as you do when it's all still so recent and raw sounds completely understandable and normal. Holding you hand through it, across the ether.

Praying for a restful night for you and DS, Mome. Is your DD OK now too?

Praying for MHD to feel much better very soon, ready for her holiday.

And praying (with a little hoorah thrown in for good measure) for Gingercurl. Congratulations on completing the thesis - we all knew you could do it. Enjoy your holiday now.

Thinking also of amber, of Oma and Bob, of BES, of PA, of Charlotte, of Kay, of Mary, of Room and of niminypiminy. Praying for those who've received A-level results today, as they contemplate the next big step in their lives.

I am stupidly tired, but have finished a couple of fairly major tasks today and have only one more day at work before we go on holiday on Sunday. So praying for a last burst of energy to get me through the next couple of days...!

Badvoc Fri 16-Aug-13 07:55:55

Thank you all. I am sorry for your loss faith x
Glad to hear your ds is improving mome. What a worry for you.
Off to cuddle my dc smile

Praying and lurking.
You fell of my tio list.
Looking forward to the meet up tomorrow.

BlackeyedSusan Fri 16-Aug-13 11:04:24

urrgg. tired. the children slept on the sofa cushions on the living rroom floor last night, for a treat.

pa how are your family. praaying, aand in the middle of the night too.

BlackeyedSusan Fri 16-Aug-13 14:21:36

mmmmm cake

Dutchoma Fri 16-Aug-13 14:30:40

Are you bringing some tomorrow?

ZingWantsCake Fri 16-Aug-13 20:14:43

may I join?

I need strength and patience to look after our children.
and to be less grumpy in general.
and I need guidance on how to be a better wife

Much prayer for you Badvoc and a (((hug)))) thrown in, too.

Zing - welcome!! are you stalking me??? I think I recognise you from elsewhere.......

On phone so cant scroll so easy and I have the brain of a gnat at the moment, so apologies for lack of personals, but prayers for everyone as I read through.

BES thanks for asking. We are mostly all good here, thanks. DH and I "speak" on fb most days - although this often includes me giving him cooking or cleaning instructions. hmm
DD1 is looking forward to going to uni in just a few weeks and will be looking for a new job to help her sort her finances out. She has done amazing, but we do still have minor blips occasionally.
DD2 is away working at Soul Survivor this week, back Sunday.
DD3 is feeling less sick and doing well. Energy levels do seem to be increasing as long as she does not push herself too much.
DS is looking for work, has an assessment day at college on Wednesday to decide what level course he will be doing. He is missing life in Cambodia.
DD4 is enjoying being back at her International School in Cambodia and probably being away from me!!

Have a good weekend everyone.

ZingWantsCake Fri 16-Aug-13 20:48:54


grin not stalking!

Badvoc Fri 16-Aug-13 21:11:46

Is that cake!?
Just been listening to the church bells - they practise every Friday night.
I love that sound.
Feel very odd today. Things seem very unreal.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Fri 16-Aug-13 21:57:59

Hope a good time is had by all who are meeting up tomorrow!

BlackeyedSusan Fri 16-Aug-13 22:07:51

i guess the shock is wearing off badvoc. I remember the disconnected from the world feeling.

I am trying to get ready forr tomorows adventure, but still dealing with small bodies and out of routineness

See you tomorrow bes smile

Dutchoma Fri 16-Aug-13 23:11:34

It's beginning to feel real now.

Tuo Sat 17-Aug-13 02:03:28

In haste again... up late trying to finish off bits of work before I go. But things seem to be going well in various ways at the moment work-wise, and I'm getting lots done, so I'm feeling positive, if tired.

Praying for those of you meeting up tomorrow and for those of us who can't make it. Thinking of everyone on this thread, and reading and praying. Welcome Zing. Holding Badvoc especially at this difficult time...

Time, I think, to roll out this old favourite - for Badvoc and for anyone here who needs it tonight.

Watch, dear Lord, with those who wake, or watch, or weep tonight, and let your angels protect those who sleep. Tend the sick. Refresh the weary. Sustain the dying. Calm the suffering. Pity the distressed. We ask this for the sake of your love. Amen.

Have a good meet-up everyone. I am -> envy

JakeBullet Sat 17-Aug-13 08:19:23

Praying for all those who need prayers still smile

My Uncle is very ill in Switzerland, don't think it will be much longer though so I am praying for a peaceful death now. He will soon be reunited with my beloved Auntie who I miss so much....and who he has missed so much since her death. His house is now sold.....within two months so much has changed here.

Am praying for my friend who has lots of difficult issues at the moment. She moves house on Monday to a town 30 miles from here and is anxious about being isolated away from her friends. This is a two bedroom HA house though and she has never had a garden before....which being agrophobic she desperately needs. I am helping her pack and will be with her on Monday to get her there.

Love and peace to all x

BlackeyedSusan Sat 17-Aug-13 08:23:14


dd has just woken up, and reached for a book within 30 seconds. ds is still asleep on the sofa. they are both sleeping in the living room again. I am trying to get coffee and ready to function.

sorry that you will not be there pa. sad

have a virtual brew and cake and biscuit with us.

BlackeyedSusan Sat 17-Aug-13 08:32:28

sad jake. (sorry x posts)

Badvoc Sat 17-Aug-13 09:00:29

have a Great time athe meet up x

Dutchoma Sat 17-Aug-13 09:08:23

Thanks Badvoc, I can so understand why it is too much to just come today. But should you change your mind, I will be there. I have pm'd my mobile number

I think the BT engineer was meant to be coming today. I never wrote it down confused

I could try and call but I suspect I'd be passed round the houses.

Kaykat Sat 17-Aug-13 09:54:10

Hope you all have fun at the meet up. Sorry I can't be there, would love to meet you all but I am a long way away.

madhairday Sat 17-Aug-13 11:14:17

Have a great meet up. Really wish I was there, but packing for Germany and car is in for service etc sad Have fun!

ZipadiSoozi Sat 17-Aug-13 11:18:40

Hello all you lovely ladies, hope you have a fabulous meet today, wish I was there, but dh working no transport, plus I have to look after my 3yo GNephew today my Nephew has had a heart attack aged 39 please could you all help pray for his swift recovery.

Love and Prayers to you all xxxxx


Dutchoma Sat 17-Aug-13 11:58:35

just bes here at the moment and mome12miles away

Yes <ahem> where are you all?

<starts scoffing all the biscuits>

BlackeyedSusan Sat 17-Aug-13 19:24:12

<falls in thread>


I had a great day with these two mumsnetting all day grin wink

<exagerates greatly>

spot the person without the technology.

we went off to the craft fair afterwards. dd and ds were happy making things in the craft tent.

ps mome, you missed the really good biscuits!

Sorry I didn't make it... sad

BlackeyedSusan Sat 17-Aug-13 20:03:53

do, have your ears recovered yet? four small children can make an awful lot of noiselet lose to rampage through a church.

ZingWantsCake Sat 17-Aug-13 20:32:38

dontstep sorry, we are on Isle of Wight on hols, arrived today!

hope everyone is doing ok.
much love and prayers for all, especially those who are mourning. (hugs)

Dutchoma Sat 17-Aug-13 20:38:09

Noise? Did they make a noise? They were darling angels all day grin

Have a lovely time Zing! I know someone else who lives there wink <looks round thread pointedly>

It was nice! Even if I was late grin

I'm lying in bed BES. Are you impressed?

Perhaps I should clarify my 'nice' comment? I meant a nice day.

Re-reading it, I felt it was ambiguous.

BlackeyedSusan Sat 17-Aug-13 21:18:37

I am not lying in bed envy and neither are the children. ds slept in the car on the way home, this is the result. they arre nearly ready for bed though. both are sleeping downstairs again, indoor camping. confused

BlackeyedSusan Sat 17-Aug-13 21:20:15

time check