Medium, how did she do this?

(98 Posts)
greener2 Fri 08-Mar-13 10:29:17

I am fascinated and have been to see a few people who i concluded were trying to cold read me and so terminated and did not pay,
However i did see someone the other day and am struggling to see whether she is real or not. She did numerology and a reading.
The first thing she said to me was the midlands, who is in the midlands? I said i am from there (but we had spoken on the phone and maybe she just picked up my accent) she kept asking who is there now and i said family and friends, she said birmingham who is there, my husband works there and she immediately said he is stressed. He is.
During the reading she gave me several names of which they didnt mean anything to me.
But she knew things like that i had moved in feb 2012, asked what the number 14 was (it was the number of my old house i moved from), said i had a son and daughter and was worried about one of them in the education sector (i am worried she is autistic) and that i didnt know whether to stay where i was or move back to the midlands again true.

Did she cold read me or is this gift possible?

Want to believe but find it hard as a lot was in the future, i.e my husband is going to get a job opportunity which will make mour decision for us and we will move aug/sept.

Obviously this hasnt happened yet!


HeathRobinson Fri 08-Mar-13 10:32:44

Fairly easy to think that your dh might be stressed, these days and that a child might be having a few problems at school. A lot of people in Birmingham too.

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 08-Mar-13 10:35:13

I am a believer smile but in all honesty that reading sounds vague.

I think she cold read you and got lucky.

From the Midlands ..... you're from Birmingham is as good a guess as any, especially if someone is skilled at picking up the slightly different accent between the parts of the Midlands. The Birmingham accent is a little "posher" than the Wolverhampton accent, North East Birmingham has a slight nasal tone.

As for the number 14 could have been anything, and it sounds like you've made it fit. It could have been a birthday (1 in 30 chance), a house number, an age, etc.

Stressed at work - isn't everybody? And if he is stressed and working hard he is likely to get job opportunities. Or he could be stressed and looking elsewhere in which case he is likely to get a job opportunity .....

Did she say "You have a son and daughter" or say it in questioning tone "You have a son?.... and a daughter?", or did you at any time use the word "my family" which generally indicates more than one child.

It doesn't sound like she's said anything particularly amazing.

Sounds very much like a cold reading to me.

LemonPeculiarJones Fri 08-Mar-13 10:50:04

Just cold reading. Not even that accurate either.

Don't waste your money on these people. They can't tell you anything. It's guess work/picking up on cues (we all give so much away without realising it).

Life is inspiring and extraordinary without 'magic' like this. It's just a con.

MTSgroupie Fri 08-Mar-13 10:50:27

'14' was my age when we moved to my parents current house. It is also the age of my nephew. Pick any number below 50 and chances are it is of some relevance to all of use.

As for Birmingham, my nephew works there and DP went to Birmingham Uni. It's a big place so great chance of it being relevant.

As for DH being stressed, aren't we all? Credit crunch and redundancy is at the back of most people's minds.

If I was a medium I would put my life savings on the 3 o'clock at Newmarket. I would then help the police find Maddie. I certainly wouldn't be doing readings for £x a pop.

You should watch the US drama series The Mentalist.

DoIgetastickerforthat Fri 08-Mar-13 10:58:07

She may well have googled you beforehand, you can find out all sorts if you know where and how to look. Also, did she actually provide any insight into your life or was it a 'Proving the Powers' type reading where they throw a load of stuff at you that you already know ie husband stressed, worried about daughter etc so that you come away thinking "wow, how could she know that", but doesn't actually give you anything concrete to help you with your decision making?

Because if it was, even if she possesses second sight, what's the point?

greener2 Fri 08-Mar-13 12:15:19

She didnt have my name to google me and i dont really have a birmingham accent.
But yes vague isnt it.
I have phoned her to discuss about going in again as i dont feel happy, will let you know

MTSgroupie Fri 08-Mar-13 12:20:53

I'm from just outside Birmingham. I didn't think I had an accent either. Then after a few years down sarf I watched myself in a home movie ..... smile

LemonPeculiarJones Fri 08-Mar-13 12:23:03

Why go in again?

Honestly it's just a waste of time OP.

KatoPotato Fri 08-Mar-13 12:33:08

I was in Birmingham last week on a training course... my husband is stressed, my DS was born on the 14th...

Trills Fri 08-Mar-13 12:37:25

How did she do what?
She didn't do anything.

She tried a bunch of things and used your reaction (conscious and unconscious) to see which were going in the right direction.

If you said you were from the midlands, you'll almost certainly have a link to B'ham. Could have been your aunty or your dentist.

The fact your husband works there, but you don't live there means he commutes, so is probably stressed. As is almost everyone.

I was 14 when my Grandad died, and could probably think of anyother couple of links to any number under 100 if put on the spot.

Everyone woprries about their children's education.

Please don't give these people your money. Give it to cancer research or something that might actually influence your life in years to come. Make your own future, and don't be impressed if people are able to guess your past.

MTSgroupie Fri 08-Mar-13 13:06:54

I once amazed my friend with my 'medium' skills. Her BF was a business contact of mine. We had only spoken on the phone a few times. I proceeded to give the following 'reading'.

She was blonde, mid 30s, 5 year old daughter, strained marriage/relationship.

Apparently I was spot on.

Blonde. Isn't everybody smile
Mid 30s. My friend isn't likely to be BFs with much younger/older woman.
5 year old DD. Most professional women seem to start a family at about 30.
Daughter. Most of the people I know seem to be having daughters. In any case I had a 50/50 chance of being right.
Strained relationship. She was a very aggressive person bordering on angry sometimes. She was either unhappy at home or else her personality created friction at home.

And I'm not even a professional <takes a bow>

It's your money OP so spend it as you see fit but, pardon the bluntness, you are a sucker.

headinhands Fri 08-Mar-13 13:08:11

As someone else said upthread how does her telling you about the stuff you're worried about help you? It's like going to the dr for them to just list a load of symptoms they think you have and then you saying thanks and your appointment being over. Surely you'd be better off tackling your life worries head on by seeking out the advice of people who have faced similar issues and finding ways to work round/through problems?

PedroPonyLikesCrisps Fri 08-Mar-13 13:33:39

You say you've had several cold readers who failed. So one hitting on a couple of relevant details is just the law of averages.

The most successful cold readers are just very very good at reading people and combine this with a bit of luck and statistical probabilities. Everything about you can give stuff away. A wedding ring, the type of bag you carry, the fact you are the kind of person wiling to pay for a reading, the way you walk, your voice, your reactions to questions.

If they were for real, they wouldn't have to ask any questions at all. Rather than "what's the number 14" it would be "you lived at number 14"

MTSgroupie Fri 08-Mar-13 15:12:26

It just occurred to me OP, perhaps your DH is stressed because his wife is spending money on a succession of mediums

noblegiraffe Fri 08-Mar-13 15:21:47

Did she say confidently 'you moved in Feb 2012'? Or what is 'you've had an upheaval recently....a house move.....last year...' etc in a fishing way, like she did with midlands, birmingham, family and friends.

I bet she still had plenty of misses too.

Why are you soon keen for a medium to not be cold reading you? (Not criticising you here, btw. Just asking).

INeverSaidThat Fri 08-Mar-13 16:22:50

It's a load of old bollocks.

Don't waste your money.

CheeseStrawWars Fri 08-Mar-13 16:25:56

The first thing she said to me was the midlands, who is in the midlands? - accent

she kept asking who is there now - it would be unusual to live in an area long enough to pick up an accent and not be friendly with some people who live there

she said birmingham who is there - it is the biggest city outside of London? Big, anyway. I don't live anywhere near and know people there. If you have lived in the Midlands, chances are high that you have come across people who do...

my husband works there and she immediately said he is stressed - work is generally stressful for everyone? And you probably didn't say "he works there" with a big beam on your face, giving the impression he was loving it.

During the reading she gave me several names of which they didnt mean anything to me. - throwing stuff out there...

But she knew things like that i had moved in feb 2012 - that info is available on Zoopla if she had your address

asked what the number 14 was - as others have said, any number under around 30, then stats are in her favour it means something. It was the bus I used to get to work.

Said i had a son and daughter and was worried about one of them in the education sector - Easy to guess, and "education sector" is very vague, could cover job, school, college. And who isn't worried about their kids? Again, you probably didn't say the answer with a big beam of happiness implying all was fine. Who goes to a medium when they're completely happy anyway? All customers are looking for reassurance about something. If I start thinking about what I could worry about for my kids, there's loads!

that i didnt know whether to stay where i was or move back to the midlands again true. - even if you weren't thinking that already, by putting the suggestion there, knowing you like the midlands long enough to pick up the accent, she's going to sow the seed of doubt and make her words self-fulfilling.

Nothing you have said above convinces me... She may not be aware she's consciously reading you, giving her the benefit of the doubt, but I don't see any "messages from beyond" in what you've said.

I'm absolutely with the people who believe that anyone with real psychic powers would make (accurate) statements not ask vague questions fishing for clues.

If you'd spoken to me on the phone, you'd know you were safe starting with 'Glasgow. Who/what is in Glasgow?'. (In these situations it's best not to give any information away; if you must answer, the best way to go is 'Glaswegians').

hiddenhome Fri 08-Mar-13 16:39:26

A medium once told me that I had a boyfriend and a little girl and a bad leg. I had, in fact, just been widowed and was childless. She noticed my bad leg because I have a slight limp hmm

noblegiraffe Fri 08-Mar-13 16:48:07

I'd have thought an actual psychic would have been able to tell you who was in the Midlands!

It doesn't sound like she gave you enough evidence of who was telling her the info. A medium should establish contact, give you details, then give you info on your life. sad

greener2 Fri 08-Mar-13 19:18:04

Again, no details were given so couldnt do zoopla etc and the info like the number were said confidently. The number 14 doesnt mean anything else to me except my old house and the read was mainly about my move so it does tie in. When she said concerns it was about health and i said yes and then she said it was health within the education.. She told me i had a son and a daughter and that i had moved in feb 2012 she didnt ask that but told me.

However i agree its too wishy washy and i rang her today to speak with her and to my surprise she just said whats your address to send a refund. That makes me even more suspect as i said wouldnt you rather i came in again and she said no that a refund would give me the decision to find someone else ?!

I havent spent a penny on a reading so far as everyone i have done i challenge. I am fascinated by it now lol and have the balls to say to people no that isnt right etc etc but this one I felt at the time was good whereas others have been awful (telling me how i love my work - i went along with it and the one spoke about my work and then i said i dont work by the way at the end hee hee)

greener2 Fri 08-Mar-13 19:18:53

p.s rapidly thinking there is no such thing to be honest by the way!

have to disagree, but that's my opinion, each to their own. (my mum is one!)

noblegiraffe Fri 08-Mar-13 20:07:39

I thought a medium was someone who (supposedly) contacts the dead, but the OP doesn't mention any dead people. What's the difference between a medium, a psychic and a fortune teller?

greener2 Fri 08-Mar-13 20:19:55

Goodjambadjar, i would to love believe yet no one has made me as yet sad
I am very upfront with people, i truely would love to and do try but nothing has convinced me as yet and as your mum will know there are so many people in this area who are just after peoples money, you have to be so careful with your money and yourself as it could be very dangerous ground.
So whats your mums opinion on people like me? I asked one woman more about what she did etc as it was a lot of money and she put me off seeing her as i felt she was aggressive towards me and turned it on me saying that i need to work on trusting people etc etc, i was like, no i just dont want to waste my money and give it to a fake?!

Medium yeah contact the dead and nope, i didnt have any confirmation of anyone i knew, psychics i think may do this too?

Mediums contact someone you know who has passed. They don't tell you the future. Some mediums use their psychic abilities to create more of a link to the client, but if they are taking your money for a reading by a medium, they should tell you if they haven't got anyone.
psychics can be seen as cold readers. They will tune into your aura to pick up your vibes. this could be closer to what you experienced, greener.
fortune tellers might use props, such as cards, coins, etc.
All should make you aware if their methods, especially as I think there is now a fraudulent medium act in place to protect clients. Also, some such 'activities' are now supposed to come under 'entertainment' to help prevent damage to either side.
it would be good to remember that no ones future is set in stone, your decisions are your own. someone might use the phrase 'if you continue on this path' to cover a fortune telling.


greener2 Fri 08-Mar-13 21:15:34

Thanks, yes i understand, but are you saying that the future type reading is fake then and really it is contacted those who have passed that is the real gift?
Just curious as i am still so interested in finding someone who could do this for me, think i was cold read by what you are saying and glad am getting my money back!

IndigoBarbie Sat 09-Mar-13 00:14:31

Greener2, why did you go, what were you looking for?
If there was anything that gave you a vibe, then go with that and leave the rest out. The 'future' stuff hasn't come to pass yet. I know when I see information it can take up to a year to happen.

I'm not dismissing anything, I believe there are genuinely gifted people.
As far as mediums go, I think they should blow your socks off with what they have to say!
Its not something you can have set rules for, which means some people exploit it.
on the other hand, there are people who will see a medium, psychic, etc wanting a specific message and will be disappointed if they don't get it. (not saying this is you)
There are also people who will go to rostrum mediums and are do desperate for a message they'll try and make anything fit, even if the actual message is spot on for the person behind them! shock
Have you been seeing people out of curiosity?
Maybe you should find your local spiritual church to see rostrum/platform mediums, or go to a spiritual night/coffee morning and book a tabletop reading?

I visit a psychic about once a year. She never ever asks any questions and generally sits with her head down and eyes closed so doesn't 'read' my reactions.

She is scarily accurate too!

Bt I don't live my life by everything she says. The medium/ psychic you describe doesn't sound that great!

Trills Sat 09-Mar-13 10:20:45

What is it that you actually want?

If someone was really able to "contact someone you know who has passed", they wouldn't be able to tell your future either. If they claim they can, they are scamming you. Auntie Jean couldn't tell the future when she was alive and she can't tell the future now she is dead either.

I dont know why you are just going around from person to person and "testing" them.

My GM told me the story of a man who was gifted. He would charm people with health problems and they would recover. But he never once asked for money and wouldnt accept any, saying that the charm wouldnt work if he took payment. He lived in poverty all his life.

I do believe some people are gifted. But they are so few in the masses of people trying to make a quick buck.

Let it go. It sounds like you are obsessed/addicted.

headinhands Sat 09-Mar-13 10:50:51

I don't think that not taking money is in any way proof of a supernatural gift. I knew a similar guy who also lived in poverty who would give readings. He was well known in that part of town and had lots of people, mainly females, in and out seeking his guidance. He clearly enjoyed the status. I think there are many reasons why people would like people to think they were mediums and not always financial.

Perhaps. But I am more suspect of people who make their charges very clear from the outset.

My belief in that man is not from his lack of charging, more from the fact that I knew several people who had been helped by him. Sensible people who werent in the slightest bit woo.

bluebeardsbabe Sat 09-Mar-13 11:43:21

Why shouldn't a medium be able to chargw for the work they do? Seems like people are obsessed by the fact that mediums shouldn't charge and if they do they are fake. wether you believe in them or not (i personally do) if they are working surely they can charge for it. it is up to the customer to decide wether they want to spend their money.

i just don't understand why people expect to get free readings all the time.

specialsubject Sat 09-Mar-13 13:12:09

no such thing as psychic powers or clairvoyance. Some mediums are deluded enough to believe it, some are just plain fraudsters. Either way it is all nonsense.

if you want to throw money away, there are plenty of better ways.

PedroPonyLikesCrisps Sat 09-Mar-13 15:00:23

How genuine a medium is has nothing to do with how much they charge. They are all fake regardless of how good their intentions are. No psychic, medium or fortune teller has EVER been validated as genuine.

James Randi still offers a million dollars to anyone who can prove paranormal powers. Over a thousand people have taken the challenge and not one has passed.

Fortune telling is purely an entertainment pursuit, but sadly some people are duped into thinking that they might be able to actually communicate with a loved one who has passed away, etc. and this is incredibly sad. These are very vulnerable people who get taken advantage of and ripped off. Even if you are sane and just going for the entertainment value, you are essentially giving credibility to the practice which helps the real crooks to continue what is essentially very serious fraud.

Bottom line, don't indulge them.

greener2 Sat 09-Mar-13 20:42:12

I havent gotton addicted or anything, it started off with curiousity and then i have since had a chat to a few and 4 readings which have all lead me to believe that it is not true and does not exist as no one has done anything that has wowed me. I guess I am still finding the whole subject quite interesting though as there are people who say "she couldnt have known that about me" but i know think they are just super skilled in extracting information and readin people.
I have heard about the million dollars thing.

greener2 Sat 09-Mar-13 20:43:47

sorry comp playing up and now son crying.
I just dont understand the people who say that they dont say anything i.e fairydogmother, its that that makes me then think mmm maybe it exists lol!

But yes am glad am getting my money back smile

Casserole Sat 09-Mar-13 22:12:16

Sorry, but unless you are SURE she was a fake, I don't think you should be getting your money back. You asked for an appointment, she gave it to you. She played her part.

This just all sounds so weird. Why are you doing this??? Just let it go. Like someone else said, life is good as it is.

headinhands Sun 10-Mar-13 08:54:51

Green, you say that when you read posters who say they've had good readings it makes you think it might be real.

The problem with that method of discerning fact from fiction is that you will have to believe anything anyone says wether it be alien abduction, fairies at the bottom of the garden and so on. The only reliable way of deciding what's real is the same method you already use for everything else. Evidence.

As of yet there is not one piece of evidence for any of the psychics/mediums claims regardless of all the anecdotes you'll hear.

IndigoBarbie Sun 10-Mar-13 19:59:56

A really interesting thread. I was at a public display of mediumship and the medium kept on staring over at me. Fine. After he gave messages to a few people he gave messages to me. The information was particularly specific, and from a passed loved one whom I'd recently been talking to in my mind.
I agreed with everything that he said right down to some personal items which had been placed in with passed loved one in their coffin. Thing is, at the time passed loved one died, I didn't know that these things existed - but I'd since found out.

Anyhows, after the medium was finished delivering my accurate messages it was time for a coffee. People in the place were approaching me to ask if what I'd been told was any 'good,' or 'right?' of course I said, didn't you see my saying thank you and saying 'yes?'. Anyway when I got back to my seat the lady next to me was waiting to question me. She asked me who it was that had come through. I explained this to her, and she then continued to question me. Along the lines of 'So, you believe in this stuff then?, and yes, but how do you know that this was the passed love one' So I looked her in the eye and said, the information that I was given was a specific answer to what I had been asking in my mind of this person. There is no doubt in my body.
The lady seemed slightly upset by my reaction, but then - there's no proving stuff to anyone. I was happy to receive information and answers from the medium. Some of which I will wait to see what passes.

The person who upthread said about mediums contacting the dead and not being able to see the future hasn't had their own experiences of this work. It is not so cut and dried as that.

Just like what you would do in any other given situation: if you feel it's right for you, or you believe it - go with it. If not, don't. Easy.

headinhands Sun 10-Mar-13 20:24:40

"there's no proving stuff to anyone". Show me testable data and I'll believe. It's that simple, honest. Anecdote is not evidence. Otherwise everything that people claim is true would be true. And as for saying if it 'feels right', people often make money out of this from very vulnerable people and that bothers me.

greener2 Sun 10-Mar-13 20:57:22

Oo, i have started a good debate, good thoughts on both sides!
I didnt ring her to get my money back, i rang her to speak to her about my thoughts and she just offered it me straight away, i said i would be happy to just go back.
She did speak about the things that i had been asking about in my mind but the skeptic side says of course she did as i led her down that path (howwver she asked questions)
Liked your experiene in the church though!
And i dont need to let anything go, am enjoying the debate as im interested, not obssessed!

IndigoBarbie Sun 10-Mar-13 21:02:25

headinhands All I mean that if you go and see someone and it feels right for you, then good. If it doesn't then don't do it/believe it/go back - whatever.
We are not taught to look for answers inside ourselves, and many of us spend our lives searching for 'something', or answers.

I am not sure many things that occur in our lives can be tested or are measurable. That's the thing with modern day society - we seem to be overly obsessed about the end result data rather than the experience that occurs with it. For example last year I decided to fully test my own abilities and assisted in investigations to find missing persons. I believe I was helping. On one of the cases I was explicitly and accurately correct. This cannot be measured, and I don't believe is testable either.

There are many many genuine people out there, lots of them hide themselves away for fear of ridicule, some of them are out helping as much as they can.

There are different styles for receiving mediumship messages or whatever and I don't believe that any of them can be measured.

If what you are told holds value to you, then it holds value to you. If not, then it doesn't. How can thoughts provide testable data?

headinhands Sun 10-Mar-13 21:11:28

It can easily be tested. The same way other stuff can be. If you are psychic then get down that Randi institute asap to collect the $1,000,000 with ease and give it to Macmillan or Save The Children or any number of charities.

Here's the address:

James Randi Educational Foundation
Million Dollar Challenge
7095 Hollywood Boulevard, #1170
Los Angeles, CA 90028-6035

headinhands Sun 10-Mar-13 21:13:27

How/why can it not be measured? How do you know it can't?

IndigoBarbie Sun 10-Mar-13 21:18:51

headinhands, why do you presume that people want money, or to be 'tested' or proven to be right or wrong? It's not the most important thing in life.

orangeandlemons Sun 10-Mar-13 21:24:19

I,m not a big believer, but I saw a medium about a year after my mum died. She blew my socks off, I was absolutely go smacked by her. I told her nothing at all, in fact she told me to tell her nothing.

She identified where I lived
She told me my mum knew dd had her name as her middle name
She told me the name of my father
She told me my mum was still concerned about her daughter who was disabled
She said my mum loved my ds still whom she identified as 14 ( no other numbers suggested)
She knew the number of my house
She identified that my mum died when I was pregnant with dd

I was blown away. I went in believing nothing at all. She mainly spoke about dead relatives, all correctly identified, but said loads of other stuff that she just couldn't have known. All she knew was my first name and phone number. She also lived miles away from me

headinhands Sun 10-Mar-13 21:39:46

Put it like this. Imagine the real world worked like that. I'm guessing I wouldn't be going back to the same company if they couldn't guarantee they'd ever deliver anything I wanted. Why is the psychic ability beyond testing? If your Internet provider suddenly announced you wouldn't be able to test your broadband connection anymore and when you protested they said 'why is testing so important, not everything can be tested' etc you'd be happy with that?

IndigoBarbie Sun 10-Mar-13 22:15:59

I'm sure there are factors that occur or happen in the quality of receiving any psychic information. Probably the same way electrical circuits have fluctuations, so do we. I know for myself that sometimes I am only shown what I should share, and sometimes the harder I try, I just can't do it. It's when I try least of all that it seems to flow. In fact, in recent weeks I just can't be bothered at all, I've let a lot of people down who have been and still are waiting for information from me. Other factors have taken over.

Psychic energy isn't a product though - it's something all of us have, or at least have the ability to attempt to tap into. The best intuition or psychic information you could rely upon is your own. Once you learn to tap into that, off you go, and your life takes on new meanings and shifts you never thought possible. Immeasurable. Unprovable. But, most definitely experience-able smile

headinhands Mon 11-Mar-13 03:34:35

You have to wonder why it appears that none of the countless scientists that have 'crossed over' have got in touch with their living counterparts at Oxbridge via any psychic of their choosing, to explain how they are able to think/feel without a functioning body as we know it. Wouldn't that be infinitely more interesting/helpful than 'remember the time you burnt something in the oven' or 'Jean says you need to stop worrying so much'.

bluebeardsbabe Mon 11-Mar-13 14:40:20

Indigo grin

My bil is a non believer and we frequently have healthy debates but I always end up saying that we'll never persuade each other otherwise as he thinks with his science brain and I feel with my woo heart and that is just fine and we respect each others beliefs.

incidently a few months ago there was an article in several newspapers about aa scientist who had a NDE and was now a believer. I forget the details but it was very interesting.

myroomisatip Mon 11-Mar-13 16:50:59

I visited one last year and she came out with a lot of stuff without me prompting, also a lot of stuff that, so far, was way off mark.

She gave me the name of my mothers very close friend, didn't ask me anything, just told me that the lady was there, also the names of uncles that had passed. Lots of things she said were very comforting to me and she also recorded the sitting so I can listen to it again and see if anything she has said has since happened.

I did not ring to make an appointment so she had no way of checking me out. She did tell me I would be living in a cottage in west sussex! Cant ever see that happening! But if it does I will let you know smile

PedroPonyLikesCrisps Mon 11-Mar-13 18:58:32

"She gave me the name of my mothers very close friend, didn't ask me anything, just told me that the lady was there, also the names of uncles that had passed."

Are the names of these people common names? Were any other names offered which didn't mean anything to you? Did the psychic tell you who the names related to or just throw them out there for you to fill in the blanks?

greener2 Mon 11-Mar-13 20:24:12

Good question, i had a few names and none of them meant anything to me an guess what they were meant for someone else?!!!

The worse ones are the i have someone who was in the war or an old lady wearing an apron etc!

nightlurker Mon 11-Mar-13 20:24:27

How did she do this? Here's one possibility:

She may have a reverse phone lookup directory, from which she got your full name and address using your phone number. By browsing old directories, she could have found a past address. If she had a lot of time and a more sophisticated business, she would find a family member of yours on facebook that accepts friends without knowing who they are (under a false name, of course). All of this information would be gathered before you came in, and all she would need is a phone number.

greener2 Mon 11-Mar-13 21:01:59

From a mobile phone? I dont have facebook account...

nightlurker Mon 11-Mar-13 21:44:26

If I look up my cell number on a reverse look-up it says it contains an address, name, household members, people search results, and a little other information. I would have to pay to see it (which I'm not willing to do), but you can pay a fairly small fee for it.

Granted, I am in the US and the laws and availability of reverse look-ups may be different here.

IndigoBarbie Mon 11-Mar-13 22:09:48

bluebeards wink
Och, I know, I always say it's hard to believe unless stuff happens to you. Or sometimes you still can't believe it. Nonetheless, our lives are made somewhat more interesting by that which we have still to question, experience or share.

myroomisatip Tue 12-Mar-13 10:05:27


She simply stated, 'Your mums friend, Lily, is here too'. She did not ask if I knew anyone whose name started with a 'L' or anything like that at all.

I have two uncles with the same name, (William) who have passed over and she got that right, also got it that one was known as Bill whereas the other is known as William.

Again, she did not question me about them, neither did she offer up any other names.

I think I am going to have to listen to the tape today smile

greener2 Tue 12-Mar-13 13:16:40

Yes listen to the tape and report back please smile

NotTreadingGrapes Tue 12-Mar-13 13:25:09

I have had readings from many different people. I am a total believer, but I also think, as I stated upthread, there are a lot of people who buy a how-to-read-palms book, or a set of Tarot cards, and launch themselves as psychics.

I have had 3 stand out readings in the last 20 years.

A woman called Margaret (who I discovered recently is still working in the same pub in Liverpool where I saw her) was incredible, and the 6 or so work colleagues I went with were of the same opinion.

Another reader I had a reading from (about my ex) told me something extremely specific about him that I have recently (after the reading) established to be true (and I gave her only his first name, which is the second most common first name in the world after Mohammed ;-))

A third again gave me v specific information which was true.

I didn't give any of these people any information about myself. Margaret in particular, as I said, operates out of a pub, and people don't book in advance, they just turn up so there was no way she researched any of us beforehand. The other 2 were over the web and whilst I appreciate that yes, they might have googled me, there is no way they found my ex, because I've been looking for the bugger online for years. ;-)

I have had others where you just can see immediately they have opened the "meanings of tarot cards" book they bought with their deck.

headinhands Tue 12-Mar-13 17:16:36

Actually if 'it' does happen to me I will put it down to the other many likely explanations before instantly jumping to the least likely one, namely that we exist after death and communicate largely pointless and unhelpful information to the living. After all, that's what we usually do isn't it? If you walk into your living room to find a guilty looking toddler and a sudocreme covered sofa (voice of experience) whereabouts on the list would a paranormal explanation come? The top? No. So it should be elsewhere. The most likely explanation, based on what we know and observe about the world, is almost always the answer.

BoyMeetsWorld Tue 12-Mar-13 17:27:14

Haven't read any replies yet so apols if I repeat things but as a sceptic and a techy person this would be my interpretation:

*she did her google research on you. Presumably you booked using your name?
*if so, there are free online directories which quite openly give the full address and names of all people living in a house - hence she'd know number 14 & about your son and daughter
*she'd also know from that your husband's name and could check directories of workers / company director records / LinkedIn etc to see where he works and deduce whether a stressful job
* from the address details etc she may possibly be able to look up further records of where your children attend school, check out social networking sites, newspaper archives online etc
*its amazing how much info you can get online - particularly if it's your livelihood & you have a few directory subscriptions etc. I have a friend in Due Dilligence and the amount he can tell you about someone based on info they never knew was out there is terrifying.

I could be totally wrong of course. But I doubt it.

BoyMeetsWorld Tue 12-Mar-13 17:32:28

Just seen you said she didn't have your name. Are you 100% sure there's no way she could have. For example...what phone did you ring her from to book - googling phone numbers with a registered directory often reveals the owner. Try searching your number. Try looking up your address in a reg directory - have a look whether any of the 'other names' she mentioned appear in the same directory or in any news archives

NotTreadingGrapes Tue 12-Mar-13 17:40:41

I do agree that many of them look you up- that's why the ones which have amazed me have amazed me, because there was no way they looked me up.

One told me that someone I was interested in "had been physically very close to me in Manchester last Christmas". Her psychic skills overlooking the fact I have been in Italy for the last 20 yrs and he has been in Spain. grin

bluebeardsbabe Tue 12-Mar-13 18:57:06

Nottreadinggrapes...good one.

I just wonder why you would bother spending all that time researching for what.. 30 quid!!

And how does that apply to theae phone readings. They surely don't have the time to look you up?

BoyMeetsWorld Tue 12-Mar-13 19:35:33

Again - second phone dials in, they search the number. Can be chatting about location as they're looking up household members info etc. plus a good deal of vague guess work and cleverly worded lead-in q's. It is a skill, really.

greener2 Tue 12-Mar-13 19:51:55

I will repeat, i have not given a name. Only had me calling from a mobile number which doesnt have any info about me...

noblegiraffe Wed 13-Mar-13 01:47:36

I knew someone at uni who worked on a psychic phone line. He definitely wasn't psychic, just a bullshitter.

AllThumbs Wed 13-Mar-13 02:02:12

If you think that was an impressive reading you must be a mediums dream lol.

NandH Wed 13-Mar-13 02:03:29

do you have facebook or any sort of online thingy bob? it's not hard to pick up the sort of info she has got about you.

don't get me wrong, I'm into woo, but she hasn't got all that great info really :-/

alwayslateforwork Wed 13-Mar-13 03:05:31

I was walking down Guildford high street and got stopped by a lucky heather seller - I apologized as I didn't have any cash on me, but said I was going to the cash point and then to buy a sandwich, and if I saw her on the way back up the hill I would buy some then. She gave me a bunch anyway, free of charge, and told me I was going to have a lucky day.

Dd1 was with me, and she had never seen a lucky heather seller before, so we talked a bit about superstition, and luck and whatnot. Anyway, we went to the cash point and it was heaving, queue about 5 deep outside m&S. the woman in front of us walked away and the ATM kept churning out cash. Dd1's face was a picture. I realized the woman had walked away without her money, so turned round and just saw the woman disappearing into the crowds up the hill - I told dd1 to run and get her whilst I grabbed all the cash (several hundred pounds).

Anyway, the woman came back, obviously very grateful, and tried to give us half of the money as a thank you. I said no, but she insisted on giving dd1 £20 to buy a book with. ('Mummy, she knew!')

Well, as you can imagine, dd1 was beside herself. We got our cash, bought a sandwich, (and a book, lol) and later on went back up the hill. I saw the lucky heather seller, and got dd1 to go and give her some money for the heather she had given us earlier.

The seller came over, grasped my hands, told me that she just wanted me to know our huge overseas move would work out all right, despite my worries, and that it would all be okay. By this point, dd1 had her jaw on the ground, eyes like saucers.

For the rest of the day, all I heard was 'but how did she KNOW?'

At the time, dh had received a posting order to Canada but we had been told that we may not be able to go with him (dd2 has a physical disability - we had packed up our entire house and sent our belongings, but they had not yet confirmed that they could meet dd2's needs in the school etc. our entire lives were literally hanging... And i was stressed to my eyeballs about it). She was very specific, and knew I was worried specifically about a health issue to do with the move.

No idea whether it was a lucky guess or not. Dd1 and I were just having a shopping day and we had been to the hairdresser. Nothing about us screeched 'international move in jeopardy' as far as I could tell - and I hadn't been talking about it with dd1, as we were trying to downplay the 'your sister might not be allowed to come' line...

I went with my friend who wanted company to a medium. It was quite funny. We were giving away absolutely nothing. In the end she kind of gave up and told my friend that she would end up in a dusty, windswept place with horses. She's 48 now and has never been near a horse in her life. She was emigrating to Melbourne at the time. Nada. I do frequently email and ask her if she's met that rancher who's going to drag her out to the bush forever...

I am not remotely woo. But I do wonder about that heather seller. (We did come to Canada with the army and then emigrated, fact fans)

bluebeardsbabe Wed 13-Mar-13 10:46:04

Always. what a lovely story. the best readings I find are always the random onessmile

AllThumbs Wed 13-Mar-13 13:55:40

When my mum was a girl her and a friend went to see a fortune teller in one of those booths on the pier. My mum went in first and got the usual "I see you crossing water", generic guff.

Her friend went in next and was out within seconds. The fortune teller had taken one look at her and said "I won't read for you. I'm not taking your money".

The friend was most perplexed and they spent the rest of the afternoon joking that the fortune teller must have been desperate for a wee or something.

A week later the friends housecoat sleeve caught fire while she was cooking and she burned to death.

greener2 Wed 20-Mar-13 20:44:36

Yep heard that one before smile

Anyway, got my money back so that's good

Zideq Wed 20-Mar-13 20:55:53

Your medium should go for the million dollar prize.

greener2 Thu 21-Mar-13 13:09:01

Yeah I think we have covered that before...
Still intrigued though lol!

greener2 Mon 16-Sep-13 19:56:03

just a quick update, I find it interesting that she was adamant that a job offer would come in for my husband sept and guess what...
we have been waiting for one for nearly 2 years.
Bit odd or maybe co incidence but there we go.

headinhands Mon 16-Sep-13 20:51:38

1 in 12 chance aren't dire odds. Why didn't she give the company name? In your op the medium said a house move in aug/sept didn't she? Finding new and appropriate employment often takes a few months.

greener2 Tue 17-Sep-13 08:44:32

Sorry it said he would have a job op late aug and offer sept which meant we could
Move house. He applied late aug and offer sept which
Means we can look for a house. I understand what you are saying re one in 12 chance, didn't give the name as she said it would be the same as what he is doing now just different area which is right. I thought yeah sure this will happen lol and haven't told my husband anyway so did find it funny when he said a job had come up late aug..

It never fails to amaze me that people pay strangers to let them guess who they are and what they are feeling, and expect to learn something or get any kind of insight about themselves from it.

I reckon a lot of people are stressed or have stressed husbands. A lot of women our age has kids of school age, and a lot of us worry about something related to school. Dont be daft.

And a lot of us are looking for new/better jobs, and few make a career change into something totally new.

curlew Tue 17-Sep-13 08:53:47

Have a look at Derren Brown doing cold reading on UTube.

And sit and think and see if you can remember all th things she said that didn't have any connection- you only remember the ones that you feel apply to you, but she will have scattergunned loads of others.

greener2 Tue 17-Sep-13 10:43:29

don't be daft lol! That made me laugh. Ok will do but honestly I am very sceptical myself and didn't offer things but yes I hear you smile

curlew Tue 17-Sep-13 10:47:05

If you're very sceptical why are you wasting time, money and headspace on this rubbish?

greener2 Tue 17-Sep-13 12:04:47

Curiosity and hey I haven't spent much and it doesn't control my life so no need to be so cutting I find it all fascinating do
Just having a discussion about it all really that's all

What is fascinating is how easily normally rational people are taken in by all sorts of mumbo jumbo!

I guess we all just need to believe something ...

iloveweetos Tue 17-Sep-13 16:25:25

I love reading things like this. allthumbs what a scary story!

bit different, but my friend can read palms and her dad, grandad etc have all been able to. She doesn't like to do it much for the reason of reading something like death etc and its not something she wants to pursue.
but i get her to do mine whenever i feel like i need motivation (lol im ridiculous - but maybe once or twice a year)
When we met, she read my hand and it was freaky...she only knew my name, but could see i had a daughter and how i was feeling with things at the moment, and things that have happened in the past. I didn't believe one bit, but was so gobsmacked. When i had met DP she read things about his life and past that was so freakishly accurate and i hadn't told her. and they weren't vague names or numbers etc, but big events.

I wouldn't pay to have a reading though lol it is all very interesting

greener have you had any readings since?

iloveweetos Tue 17-Sep-13 16:25:55

i didn't believe before meeting her*

greener2 Tue 17-Sep-13 17:49:55

No readings since why do you ask?

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