Christian Prayer Thread for Winter - all welcome!

(516 Posts)
DontstepontheBaubles Sun 23-Dec-12 07:30:22

Roomforalittleone - That the house sale continues speedily and completes asap and that God would provide for them and help them make ends meet financially. For her sickness to ease in her pregnancy. And for her friend who has sadly lost a baby, who was sleeping.
BabyBeatrice- who has been diagnosed with cancer at only 14 months, Mum is a long term MNer who has name changed. Prayers that God would surround the family at this time and heal her DD.
Blackeyedsusan- for good health, for energy, for her two children as she struggles to get them support at School and for her Mum. For more support at Church and to not feel isolated or lonely.
Jan- For peace, for her DD to sleep better, for her to be able to put firm boundaries in place and that her H would reach acceptance and peace about the situation and learn to respect her, so they can reach a place of good co parenting. That God would help her as she begins to investigate divorce and proceed. And that the meeting goes well with her parents and in laws and that a line would be drawn in the sand.
MHD-for her body and lungs to recover from the pneumonia fully and completely and her lungs to strengthen, so that she doesn't relapse at all but enjoys this festive season with her family.
amberlight-For her family to recover from the norovirus and for peace and reconciliation with an old friend.
MrsRhettButler- for her friends Mum who is very ill in hospital with a 5% chance of survival and young children.
HaveALittleFaith -for her energy as she grows this baby.
Cloutiedumpling- that her DD settles into nursery for her return to work and adjusts to bottles/ cups.
LewisFan- Her Nan has passed away, prayers for her family.
CharlotteCollinsislost-Prayers for her as she makes big decisions about her future as she plans to separate.
Positiveattitude-for her DD over Christmas, as her Mum is so far away. For home sickness to ease with PA and DS. That her children back home get support from PA's old Church and the heating is fixed asap. And that the organisation trace the money and PA then has the funds she needs whilst they serve God out there.
Kaykat- Prayers for her in her difficult marriage, for protection, peace and for God to help her and surround her with people, so she can end things, have a safe home and for her DS.
LiftUpYourGingerHeadsOYeCurls-for her as she does her thesis, for energy, concentration, clarity, ability to see the connections as well as the bigger picture AND be able to express it in writing.
Dontsteponthemomeraths - Prayers especially for her lovely man (LM) as the court case heads to High Court, there have been so many delays but it should get there in January. That God would make a way, where there is no way, help him to afford the court fees and that he will finally have the closure; contact with his children and a maintenance agreement in place that is fair to him, his ex wife and to the children. For justice. It's 6 years since divorce due to her infidelity and it is so hard for him. The children and ex wife live in another Country and the legal system there is very different. Prayers that he has freedom from his past and doesn't live in it anymore but breaks free and moves forward in all God has for him.
And for my brother, that his thumb heals fully and that with the rehabilitation he regains movement and use and that his nerves and feelings across the top of his hand come back. The outlook is not positive currently.

If I've missed anything, please add it.

DutchOmainthestable Sun 23-Dec-12 08:04:00

What an excellent good girl you are, Momey.
There are a couple I would add:
Zipadisoozy who is struggling financially.

Tuo who is having to get used to new glasses.

And I thank you all for the prayers for Bob and me, especially as he has a chest infection for the first time in six months and is not feeling very well.

DontstepontheBaubles Sun 23-Dec-12 08:18:56

How could I forget Bob shock Sorry blush

blackeyedsusan Sun 23-Dec-12 09:48:07

how could you forget? an early morning and 2 smllish children interupting by anychance?

thanks mome.

happy chrristmas!

Rubbish! I just made a Herculean effort to make fudge for Christmas presents and when it got to a crucial stage, I needed to faint shock fudge is ruined but I am in tact. Still not made any presents...

Mome thanks for the new thread, BTW. Oh, and surely the nerves in your brother's hand are irritated from the swelling and any detached ones could take months to function as well as they can. It's still very early days. Is it the surgeons who think the outlook is not good or your brother expecting a speedier recovery?

HELLLLOOOOO grin Lovely to be able to load you back onto my laptop again. Internet is about as predictable as the electrics and the water out here - predictably unpredictable!!

TUO I have variofocals <old gimmer emoticon> and they took me a while to get used to them, but are so worth it!! Persevere, cos they are so good. I now feel funny without my glasses and love to be able to look at close work, then straight to the TV without having to either change glasses, or take 5 minutes of squinting to work out what I was looking at.

DO prayers for Bob, that he recovers quickly and you can enjoy Christmas.

Wishing you all a really good Christmas, or the best that you can have if your situations are bad.

THank you for all your prayers for us out here. We have just moved house and had a frantic week.

I would love to have the courage to tell all the MN-ers that moan about the shoe box appeal every year how much these gifts mean to the children that receive them. We have been distributing 2000 this week throughout the city and the faces of the children who receive them make everything worth while. These children have nothing. I am not talking about just no luxuries, I am talking about children who do not possess any underwear, maybe they have one t-shirt that is washed in the dirty river once in a while, and that is it!! The boxes have clean, new fresh underwear in them, and some toiletries as well as some toys, or age appropriate things. it is all these children will get for Christmas. They consider themselves blessed if they have enough rice for the family to eat each day. We have also sourced some lovely clothes that we have been able to give out to them, for which they are so incredibly grateful. A new t-shirt, a new skirt and they feel like a princess/prince.

<steps off the soapbox>

cloutiedumpling Sun 23-Dec-12 14:52:25

Which shoebox appeal is that one? It is great to hear how much they are appreciated. I am only familiar with the Link Romania shoebox scheme, which Millie is involved with.

Room - hope you are feeling better. If the fudge has gone hard and crunchy it is tablet.That's very popular up here. Or, if it has gone chewy could you give it to people as toffee, or add water to it to make it into a luxury toffee sauce?

Prayers for all

Cloutie the fudge caught on the bottom of the pan while I couldn't stir it because I was on the floor! Sadly it was totally ruined. It was so nearly done. If only I had taken it off the heat before I fainted.

DontstepontheBaubles Sun 23-Dec-12 18:16:32

Oh Room sad So sorry about the fudge but I'm glad you're ok.

It's the surgeon who did his operation who isn't sure, not him.

Lurking and praying, hope you all have a blessed Christmas!

Oh, I guess we'll just have to pray a bit more for your brother then Mome I've seen amazing turn arounds with plastic surgery that has even surprised the surgeons before now.

LiftUpYourGingerHeadsOYeCurls Sun 23-Dec-12 21:49:46

Hello! Thank you Dontstep
Lurking and praying in a snowy Stockholm.

DontstepontheBaubles Sun 23-Dec-12 22:35:03

It was 23 hrs after the accident that they finally wheeled him into theatre. I do wonder if sooner would have helped but we shall see.

blackeyedsusan Sun 23-Dec-12 23:01:05

oooo I was just about to go home ith the children after church, muttering under my breath about lack of phone calls and finding another church as it does not seem to be working out... when ound the corner of the hedge pops mrs vicar and says sorry (something didn't catch), we will caatch up in the new year... she has been ill. she then wanders back in again. we were probably making a bit of noise at the end of the carpaark outside their house... blush

anyway it seems prayers are starting to be answered. confused

wonders if there is a LM mark II out there grin (do not answer that comment!)

TuoComeOComeEmmanuel Mon 24-Dec-12 00:50:57

Oh, thank you form the new thread, Momey. What a star you are!

The good news here is that my cold is a little better and I'm finally getting used to the new glasses. I'm terribly shortsighted and have astigmatism too, so getting to the point where I needed different prescriptions for distance and close work was the final straw! But no headache today so I must be adjusting to them at last! And I have also managed not to fall over anything today -hooray! (Yesterday I fell UP a step and landed in a heap on top of a pile of schoolbags and coats!)

Praying for MHD, that her health continues to improve and that she is able to enjoy Christmas with her family. Also for better health for Bob, and for our lovely Oma to get the support that she needs in order that she can support and care for him. And also for better health for RoomFor... thank God that you weren't hurt when you fainted. And for Momey's brother's finger, that he makes a full recovery. And for BES's mum and MIL. And for baby Beatrice and her family.

Praying in particular at this time for those facing Christmas alone or in unhappy and/or abusive relationships. Thinking of Jan, Kaykat, Lost, BES, Momey, and all who find themselves in this situation. Also praying fir Momey's LM, for a good outcome to his hearing in the New Year.

Praying for those with financial worries, in particular Soozi and Room. And for Gingercurl as she works to complete her thesis.

Praying for those who've had babies in the last year and looking forward to celebrating their first Christmas... Thinking especially of the recently-arrived babies of Blue and FOD.

And praying that God will be with those who know the sorrow of the loss of a child. Thinking of expat and CupOfTea, and also of Blue.

Thinking of PA and the whole Attitude family, as they prepare to spend Christmas apart. Prayers that they will feel bound together by their love for one another, despite the miles between them, and buoyed up by God's love, which is beyond space and time. Prayers too for those families where PA is for whom the things we take so much for granted mean so much.

Praying for each and every one of us tonight, for those who post and those who lurk and read.

amberlight Mon 24-Dec-12 06:20:59

Thanks for the lovely new thread. Much prayer continuing.

cloutiedumpling Mon 24-Dec-12 09:35:55

Wishing everyone a happy Christmas.

dingdongMadHairDayonhigh Mon 24-Dec-12 12:06:03

Thank you so much for the new thread Mome, you star! Lovely to read through alnd pray as I read. smile

PA, wonderful to hear about shoebox appeal recipients, is that the OCC one? Those threads always sadden me a lot, why are they so threatened? Some of the stuff behind the organisation may be a bit extreme but what they do is so amazing as you have shown.

Please pray for one of my best friends whose mum who has been ill for years may die today or tomorrow sad She has just had a baby too, so much to cope with.

Thanks for continued prayers. I'm still feeling mostly grateful to be here and content in all I do have. Bit sad at not getting to any services but listening to lots of carols and the dc hav e done me a puppet carol service grin

Praying for Bob DO as he fights this infection sad

Praying for baby Beatrice, and praying for Rooms friend sad

Praying especially for those lovely ladies among us struggling with abusive relationships or the legacy of such. You're especially in my thoughts today.

cloutiedumpling Mon 24-Dec-12 12:08:49

I've just heard on the radio that there has been a fatal road crash not far from here. One car had five people in it. The driver and one passenger were able to get out of the car but three people were killed at the scene. If you have time, please pray for all involved.

MaryBS Mon 24-Dec-12 13:44:50

How sad Cloutie sad

Cloutie will pray for those involved in the car crash. So sad at this time of year.

Please pray, too for a local minister here and his family. They had a big Christmas celebration at their church yesterday, at the end of which there was a football match. The minister's son, who was 19, was playing football, but collapsed and died. A huge shock to everyone. I am yet again reminded that God is never taken off-guard with any circumstance, but sometimes we just cannot understand......

Our shoebox appeal is done totally through the organisation we are working with and all done from Singapore, so that the transportation costs are kept minimal. They are all much the same, though, I think.

Happy Christmas everyone. Father Christmas will be making a delivery here in just a few hours!! Not as much as every other year, but just a few goodies for DS and DD4.

Yesterday our small church held a big evangelical Christmas celebration. We normally have 60 people at church, but yesterday planned for 150, but in hope faith put out 200 chairs. We soon ran out of chairs and had to use our other 30 chairs, and still had over 75 people stood at the back and sat in the aisles. Over 300 people!!! Most of these have never heard why we celebrate Christmas!! It was a wonderful service with drama, worship, the evangelical talk, games and all finished off with an appearance from santa - aka DH - presents and a curry. When DH, Santa, jumped enthusiastically onto the stage he unfortunately ripped his trousers!! By the time he had finished embarrassing me totally dancing around the stage he was flashing his underwear due to the rip going from one knee, upwards and back down the other side to the other knee!! blush He was totally oblivious, but it was all caught on video and has had lots of people wetting themselves with laughter giggling ever since!! Oh the shame!!! blush blush

blackeyedsusan Mon 24-Dec-12 13:50:59

read through.

sorry. a bit pathetic at the mo. tryiing to summon the energy to get ready for christmas but still struggling wwith this cold/ear ache/sinus/cough thingy. it is marginally better than last week hich is good but it is sapping all my energy.

niminypiminy Mon 24-Dec-12 13:54:42

PA that sounds priceless - made me smile too.

Praying for all by name, and that the Christ child brings his hope into all our lives this Christmas season.

ZipadiSoozi Mon 24-Dec-12 14:37:58

A very Merry Christmas and prayers for you all.

Please could we pray for our precious DO and Bob, think they had a disturbing night xxxxxxx


Happy Birthday Jesus xx (for tomorrow) smile grin smile grin

Have read through and am praying. It seems so wrong that so many people are suffering at Christmas sad

Can I ask for a bit of a trivial prayer, please? My MIL is coming to stay later today. Please pray that she is actually helpful and understanding. We can never predict how she is going to be. I would have liked to have gone to her house so that it was a bit more of a break for DH and the children. Instead he is running round trying to get stuff sorted for her and we have bought the food etc. She is great to have around when she isn't in her own little world but she seems to be on a bit of a self-centred thing at the mo. Also, she has just visited SIL who can do no wrong and we are bound to be in the doghouse for something concerning SIL.

Praying for DO and Bob xx

janglebells2013 Mon 24-Dec-12 18:02:02

ah...totally missed the new thread im stupid. thanks Mome.

nice to see everyone, praying for you all, and merry Christmas and love to you all, and Happy birthday to our dear Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

DontstepontheBaubles Mon 24-Dec-12 18:22:26

How are you now Jan? Just seen your message on the old thread.

Milliways Mon 24-Dec-12 20:24:43

THANK YOU all you lovely MNers who prayed for DDs wedding preparations. The wedding was 2 days ago and after a very stressful day before, the actual wedding day was just perfect.

The worship in the church was amazing, the talk was funny and gave a perfect gospel message, a lady serving cakes in the church afterwards said it brought her nearer to God, the atheist photographer admitted he could feel something special - especially compared to most church weddings he had attended where God is an afterthought to the venue. Non Christian friends thought the service just wonderful.

The rain was heavy, but it was not snow and ice making the roads impassable. It even stopped as they entered and left the church.

God was definitely there, 2 lives were committed to each other and to Him, and I was just blown away with emotion.

Merry Christmas Everyone smile

DutchOmainthestable Mon 24-Dec-12 20:40:30

What a wonderful post Millie. Thank you.

And thank you for your prayers for us. Yes, we had a disturbed night, not sure what happened (not at my sharpest at 3am smile but Bob was quite loud and upset, although as soon as he had his oxygen he said there was 'no problem' and seemed surprised I was asking.

Hilarious story about your very own Father Christmas in his underpants PA

Cuddledup Mon 24-Dec-12 22:34:23

Prayers please for my dear father who died yesterday. Prayers for my mum who's lost her life's partner after 54 years of marriage.

Hope you all have a good Christmas. xx

TuoComeLetUsAdoreHim Tue 25-Dec-12 01:16:26

Happy Christmas all!

Back from Midnight Mass, have stuffed stockings and eaten "Santa's" mince pie, and have adopted a new Christmas name... Time for bed now methinks.

Love to all on this thread, and prayers for a happy and healthy day tomorrow for all.

CuddledUp - I am so very sorry for your loss. Milliways - fantastic news, I'm so pleased to hear it. Oma - prayers for a peaceful night tonight.

amberlight Tue 25-Dec-12 06:40:12

Cuddled up, praying....Such sadness for you.

Christmas hopes for peace and friendship for all...

DutchOmainthestable Tue 25-Dec-12 09:59:58

Prayers for you and all your family Cuddledup.
Praise be to the Lord of the Resurrection, Who came down as a baby at Christmas but won victory over death at Easter.

Peace on earth and goodwill to all.

blackeyedsusan Tue 25-Dec-12 10:08:11

sad cuddled up

happy christmas. we just managed to get the tree up so that santa could leave the stockings. I don't think dinner is getting cooked today.

mil made it to christmas!

blackeyedsusan Tue 25-Dec-12 19:29:41

mil died early this evening. gone home to Jesus. rest in peace. please pray for sil/fil who were with her. and h who was here. he was due to go back tomorrow to see her. sad both the children talked to her this morning, as did h. I iwsh he could have been there.

amberlight Tue 25-Dec-12 20:56:59

prayers... sad

cloutiedumpling Tue 25-Dec-12 21:43:32

BES and cuddledup - I'm so sorry.

Love your DH's santa story PA. Did anyone take photo evidence?

DutchOmainthestable Tue 25-Dec-12 22:04:35

After a lovely day with ds,ddil and Baby Rose, Bob did not look very well and was running a temperature of 38C. So I had to call the out-of-hours doctor out again, different one from the one that came on Saturday and he rather alarmingly talked about hospitalisation, which is really the last thing we want, but Bob was not very determined in what he said, so I'm very afraid he will agree yet again to go into hospital. Please pray that he will get better without it.

We have stronger antibiotics and he has taken some paracetamol, so hopefully it will be better tomorrow morning. Dr told me to have a 'short fuse' about calling them out again.

DontstepontheBaubles Tue 25-Dec-12 22:27:31

Cuddled up and BES - praying sad

Also praying for Bob.

Off to Scotland to stay with the outlaws tomorrow. This time I'm driving up <gulp> I couldn't face their usual form for booking flights for 8 days or similar when I say 4-5 max.

The truth is I like my home comforts. My own space. Being elsewhere on my best behaviour, without the kids usual routine and toys is very wearing for me. They also never offer child friendly food and also offer them chocolate constantly and then they wonder why they do not eat their meals <sigh> I think DS survived on bread and bananas last time I went up at Easter. Please pray that the children are good for the long drive and that I muster enough emotional energy to be positive about the stay and to enjoy it. I find my PIL marriage dysfunctional and mil passive aggressive behaviour very trying. So I'm already dreading it and I'm not even there yet. Not to mention being in the middle of no where with nothing to do. Wish you could divorce in laws too wink

blackeyedsusan Wed 26-Dec-12 00:49:53

thought you were going to make the ex (expletive deleted) take them... ?


good luck... if you need rescuing you could pm someone your phone number and they could rring you some emergency or other...

ChristmasKat Wed 26-Dec-12 01:50:17

Sorry I haven't posted for a while I had problems with the Internet.
Merry Christmas to all on this thread, may God bless every one of you x

TuoComeLetUsAdoreHim Wed 26-Dec-12 11:54:58

Oh BES, I am so sorry for your loss. Thinking of you, and praying. I am glad that your DC managed to have a chat to their gran yesterday morning, and I hope that your H is OK.

Momey... Praying for a problem-free journey and a relatively pain-free few days. One of the best things I ever bought was an in-car DVD player for long journeys. I live a good 7 hours' drive from my parents and my DH worked shifts for a long time, so I often undertook the journey alone when mine were younger, and the DVDs were fantastic. (I don't normally go in for hour upon hour of screen time, but anything is better than 'are we nearly there yet?', and it's only once in a while.)

Praying for Oma and Bob too, and for everyone here...

DutchOmainthestable Wed 26-Dec-12 12:26:34

Thank you for your prayers. Bob has seen the doctor who wanted to admit him to hospital. When we said he would not go to hospital but, if necessary to the hospice, he rang them. There was a bed available, but nothing could be done there that could not be done at home. Neither could the hospital do any more than could be done at home. A very interesting experience.

DO, are they actually doing something for Bob then? And are you getting as much support at home as the hospice can offer?

DutchOmainthestable Wed 26-Dec-12 14:19:58

Well, there is not much that can be done until the antibiotics kick in. Obviously I would rather have him at home than even in Cynthia Spencer (the hospice) so in a way I am quite relieved. The greatest relief though comes from the fact that we have made it clear that we do not want to be in our local hospital and that we have the reassurance that is not going to happen. That has made Bob feel a lot better as well. I never thought of the possibility that we might seek admission to Cynthia Spencer, not until this morning and the doctor was a bit surprised that I should ask as well.
So things are on a fairly even keel again, although we have probably gone a step down IYSWIM.

Now, some of you might remember a MNter by the name of BoxofDelights who posted this time last year.
She had employment and health issues, mainly caused by relationship problems in the past.
She's had a tough year, trying to sort them out, has hurt her hand and is still having employment difficulties.
She is in a much better place than she was last year but does not feel able to post on the board at the moment. She would however value our prayers.

Cuddledup Wed 26-Dec-12 15:38:42

Thank you everyone for your prayers following my father's passing. Today me and DB went my dad's care home to clear out his room, I was dreading it but in fact it all went fine so I think the prayers have helped.
BES - sorry to hear about your loss. I hope you get space to grieve (both physical and emotional). THis is the one thing I've needed and haven't had due to Christmas visitors.
DO - I hope the antibiotics help Bob turn the corner.


DontstepontheBaubles Wed 26-Dec-12 19:32:00

BES ExH took them in the Summer with the ow but he's working all Christmas. My turn and yes TUO I do have an in car DVD player courtesy of FIL who paid for it, for times such as this wink

Oma I saw the news on fb and am praying x

HarktheGingerCurlangelssing Wed 26-Dec-12 21:12:46

Sorry I haven't posted. We are in Stockholm visiting family over the holidays. Praying for everyone especially for BES, Cuddlecup, Dontstep, Oma and Bob.
Could do with prayers here: DS had a mild temperature when we travelled here on Saturday and which has escalated into a fullblown nasty cold with high fever , etc. He is slowly getting better but is utterly bored with not being allowed to play outside in the snow. He has now passed the cold on to me, Dh, one of his cousins, who came down with a fever this evening, and my sister. You get the picture. Prayers that we all recover quickly and that those who haven't succumbed yet remain healthy and well would be much appreciated.

blackeyedsusan Wed 26-Dec-12 23:07:25

i am mean mome, i would have said tough. he can't get time off tough. you are much nicer than I am.

hope you can get a bit of a break while there to escape to your room. hope you have a good book!

janglebells2013 Thu 27-Dec-12 10:01:13

hey, just catching up today... so much going on. praying for those whove lost loved ones. praying for Bob Oma im sorry things have been so rough and hope he will be well enough to take care of at home. can't get a minute as dd is pretty constant after being entertained 24/7 at dhs on boxing day. she was supposed to stay over but they cancelled due to no sufficient cot so i have the pleasure smile i have never seen so many toys in my life, than what came through the door from the inlaws. where am i going to put them all? i hope you all are getting a chance to wind down now after Christmas .. im just trying to focus on the lord a bit more now all the busyiness has passed, i really need Him.

DutchOmainthestable Thu 27-Dec-12 10:12:27

Fortunately Bob is a lot better this morning, thank you all for your prayers. I think he is looking forward with a bit of dread to dinner tonight when there will be 8 roiund the table, hopefully he will get some joy from it, otherwise we will have to send him to his room grin

TuoComeLetUsAdoreHim Thu 27-Dec-12 10:27:06

Glad to hear that, Oma. Praying for tonight - for Bob to be well enough to enjoy having everyone there, and for you to get some joy from it too.

Praying also for BoxOfDelights, for CuddledUp, BES, Jan, Momey and all who need prayers right now. Also thinking of MHD and praying that she has been well enough to enjoy Christmas with her family.

ZipadiSoozi Thu 27-Dec-12 10:30:28

DO - So pleased Bob is feeling a little better, put him on the time out step if he gets too excited again hahaha, bless you, enjoy your meal all together xxx

BES and Cuddle - Prayers for your families xx

DontstepontheBaubles Thu 27-Dec-12 10:54:33

DS is unsettled up here and hasn't eaten at all. They never have very child friendly food though and rather weird options for breakfast. So I've had to go to Tesco's

janglebells2013 Thu 27-Dec-12 12:29:40

are u at your mums? i really hope ds settles soon. i echo tuo's prayers and am thinking of all of you, just having a 'quiet' day with dd here

DontstepontheBaubles Thu 27-Dec-12 12:36:17

In laws, Jan.

janglebells2013 Thu 27-Dec-12 13:15:16

oh Mome, i can't think of anything worse, but i hope you get on well with yours and that they are a good help with the children and treat you well.

DontstepontheBaubles Thu 27-Dec-12 14:09:10

Errr I tolerate them, as they mean well and are kind to the kids. They deserve a relationship with them but as I said below, I think I like my own space, as opposed to living in close quarters to ex in laws and their idiosyncrasies. But it's only a few days.

DutchOmainthestable Thu 27-Dec-12 14:44:50

Unfortunatel Baby Rose is too poorly to come over. So I won't have the whole family together this Christmas. Ds is still coming over with the pie they have cooked. Dgrandson threw a maxxive paddy at his mummy calling her a 'stupid woman' and saying he 'would get her' She remained remarkably calm, but threatened she would call his dad to come and get him so she would not have hm in the car all the way to Scotland (yes she is doing it too, Mome, but not to her in-laws) calling her names. I'm sure she would follow through as well, even if it would break her heart if she could not take him. It did calm him down somewhat and he is happily playing while she has taken dgranddaughter to the park

FriendofDorothy Thu 27-Dec-12 15:52:34

Hi everyone. Hope all is well and you have survived Christmas. I am lovely being a mum and my baby is now two weeks old. The only downside is that I have a lot of pain in my pelvis as well as a urine infection. I also think I might have thrush. Your prayers that everything will clear up would be appreciated.


DutchOmainthestable Thu 27-Dec-12 20:26:07

Don't put up with it for too long FoD, Christmas or no Christmas. See if you can have a GP appointment tomorrow or on Monday, it sounds like stuff you could do without at the moment.

Lovely to hear from you and your new little baby.

I have just unwrapped my secret Santa present and it is overwhelming generosity. Apart from that I've had more presents that I've ever had and all really nice ones.

FriendofDorothy Thu 27-Dec-12 20:32:48

I saw the GP today and have antibiotics for the wee infection. The pelvic problem apparently should resolve itself in time. It's just frustrating!

DutchOmainthestable Thu 27-Dec-12 20:42:28

Oh, good girl.

ChristmasKat Fri 28-Dec-12 11:17:27

I am in the middle of a very tough time with H in the house all day every day. His mood swings are hard to deal with. He feels I should be affectionate and gets cross when I refuse. Please pray I will somehow be able to get away from him very soon.

Badvoc Fri 28-Dec-12 11:22:50

Hello everyone.
Haven't listed for a while.
I hope you all had a peaceful Xmas.
I would appreciate prayers for the situation with my family...let down again spectacularly over Xmas and am trying to get the courage to break ties which cause me nothing but pain.
Thank you x

DontstepontheBaubles Fri 28-Dec-12 13:12:15

The pastor at our Church (not Mike P) is very ill. His cancer is back and is inoperable. He's such an amazing man, he's like a Dad to half the church, he's been there ten years now and is such a pillar, as Mike is away so much. They're going to start Chemo but it's spread too far. Please pray for him and his wife and family sad I'm reeling at the news, I've only just heard.

Praying for Kat and Badvoc.

Badvoc Fri 28-Dec-12 13:43:11

I am so sorry baubles.
How awful. Poor man.
Praying x

HarktheGingerCurlangelssing Fri 28-Dec-12 22:29:47

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TuoComeLetUsAdoreHim Fri 28-Dec-12 23:47:57

Prayers for all, but especially for Kat, for peace at home and for an escape route in the New Year and for Badvoc's family problems; also for health for Ginger's nephew, for Oma's Bob and Baby Rose, for Baby Beatrice, and for MHD. So very sorry to hear about your pastor, Momey. Prayers for him too, as well as for your visit to the in-laws to go as well as it possibly can.

Prayers also for all who visit this thread, whether they post or just lurk, and for those known to us who need prayers. I'm going to be away for a week or so now, without internet access shock, so am taking this opportunity to add prayers for a very happy 2013 for us all in anticipation. I'll be thinking of you all.

Badvoc Sat 29-Dec-12 09:37:57

Thank you too, god bless x
Your poor nephew, hark. Praying he will feel better soon x

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Sat 29-Dec-12 10:09:13

Morning all. I seem to have totally missed the new thread! Well belated Merry Christmas.

Bes and Cuddled I'm so sorry for your losses. Praying for comfort at this time.

Mome I'm sorry to hear Bob is ill - I know what you mean about sometimes hospital not really achieving anything. We have patients that come in and I wonder what we're really achieving. Really pleased to hear he's improved.

ginger praying for your nephew's recovery.

Mome praying for your pastor and all those who love him, that they can trust in God's plans for him.

My pregnancy continues well. I am currently suffering with a nasty cold. I'm off work today (yay!) but then in 3 long days in a row so I am a bit concerned about how I'll cope?! I also have the option of moving to short shifts. That would mean less hours a day but more days a week. Could you pray I make the right decision about that please?

Prayers and blessings to you all.

DontstepontheBaubles Sat 29-Dec-12 10:14:05

The pastor who has cancer is Bob. My brother is the one who injured his thumb grin

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Sat 29-Dec-12 11:11:29

How is your brother doing?

Hello! Hoping one or two of you might remember me? (it's been a while!!)

I just read through CaptainDippy's christmas letter and was inspired to seek you all out and pray.

Brief update - ds1 is now 8! ds2 is 4 and at school! (how did that happen??). We continue to go to our local church every Sunday and it is a wonder to see both boys engaging in Sunday school and exploring who God is and what it means to them.

There's lots I'm mulling over in my work and friend lives and cheekily ask if you would pray for God's guidance for me in this.

Lovely news, I have been asked to join our church in helping to run some 'messy chuch' sessions, where we encourage local parents and children to come and get creative and messy in the church, to engage in social activity and try to encourage more local people to come and experience the church for themselves.

I've read through the thread and will pray for you all and the situations mentioned.

CC x

DutchOmainthestable Sat 29-Dec-12 12:05:51

Oma clamps CaptainCavemen to her ample bosom: Where have you been all this time. (Bit sneaky, since I have seen you on Facebook, but still lovely to see you here). I can't believe that ds2 is 4, quite amazing. Ds1 being 8 is somehow less of a surprise. hmm
Prayers for your exploits with messy church, my dd who says she is a confirmed atheist still takes the children to messy church and they all have a good time there.
Praying for you Faith and your little sprog and praying that your cold will ease. If not, take care of yourself and call in sick.
And praying for Ginger's family and for TUO on her break without internet access.

I am waiting for the out of hours surgery to ring me back yet again as Bob is have terrible tummy trouble because of the antibiotics. They are very busy and this is not as urgent as my earlier calls have been, so I've been waiting for nearly two hours for them to ring me back.

Badvoc Sat 29-Dec-12 12:53:11

Sorry to hear of bobs stomach trouble oma...have they got him on erythromycin by any chance? That's an awful one for side effects...if so ask them for clarithromycin or azithromycin instead - less side effects.
I am feeling very tearful today, very fragile. I may have to really limit contact with my family and I am finding that realisation hard to deal with.
I hope that in 2013 I am able to continue with my church roles as PCC secretary and Sunday school teacher.
I am wondering whether to speak to someone at church about my issues with my family (have recently read toxic parents by Susan forward and it has answered a lot but also of course raised a lot of issues and memories for me)
Please pray that 2013 will bring me some measure of peace and acceptance x

DutchOmainthestable Sat 29-Dec-12 13:17:10

No, it's Augmentin he is on. Just spolen to the ooh dr and he can have some Imodium which I know will help. He also suggested he have some pro-biotic drinks so I'll be off to the health food shop in a minute.

Sorry to hear of your relationship problems, going no contact is very hard, but you must protect yourself so you can function in the way the Lord wants you to.
Praying that you will find a way forward, may I remind you that you are exceedingly precious to your heavenly Father, whatever anybody else thinks/says/does.

prayers as I read through, especially for DO and Bob and BES.

Urgent prayer request please for DD1. For those who dont know she has suffered depression for a few months. I was worried about Christmas, but it went surprisingly well and we had a lovely skype session. Since then it has been a downward slope and DD3 is getting the brunt of her anger and frustration, which is just not fair on her. Please pray for her to be calm and for the depression to lift from her. I feel so helpless being so far away. sad

DontstepontheBaubles Sat 29-Dec-12 14:46:25

He's going back to the hospital regularly for dressing changes but he's mostly sleeping. I think he's managing 4 hrs awake a day. He did loose a lot of blood, as well as the major surgery. Perhaps that's it.

It could get confusing on thread with my pastor and oma's hubby. Shall we refer to him as my pastor? grin

Badvoc Sat 29-Dec-12 17:18:02

PA...praying for your dd. depression is such an insidious illness sad
Oma...hope the Imodium helps. Thank you for your kind words x

DontstepontheBaubles Sat 29-Dec-12 19:33:47

One more full day to go and I drive home Monday.

The menu has been soup for lunch from left over turkey and veg everyday and dinner has been turkey & veg pie, turkey curry, cold meats, salads and pâté etc. Yep the kids are struggling to eat at meal times! I need grace and peace! So ready to go home now and so is my boy. The change in routine, food, how my PIL handle him etc. He was tearful tonight.

But I know they have also enjoyed spending time with them too.

DontstepontheBaubles Sat 29-Dec-12 19:35:35

That should've been pate with the ^ and '

Obviously confused mn grin I am typing on my phone though.

DutchOmainthestable Sat 29-Dec-12 19:40:18

I had a message from BES who said her monitor had broken, so she had no computer access. Pray that a replacement will soon be found and that she will not be too isolated.

thanks for the hug DO, nice to see a friendly face and a few other names I remember too!

blackeyedsusan Sat 29-Dec-12 22:01:57

wey hey.... I am back on line though a little queasy as everything has changed colour and a different operating system is driving me bonkers. i can see you and read and post though so that is good news... I was also running out of credit on my phone... so no texting either yesterday.

got to vacate the computer soon to see if h can fix windows... oh and I want my tea without it getting stolen from the fork between plate and mouth hmm

small boy has been very trying lately cooped up inside with lots of rain and a not so well mum.

mum is difficult at the moment. she does not seem to appreciate that we have made a decision about her future... ie to renew her stay for another 2 weeks as she want s to go home eventually but is not quite ready. she is going over the same ground again and again. she wants to know exactly when I am going to visit and the answer when I have stopped being too dizzy to drive is not good enough. prayers for drying out sinuses would be appreciated.

amberlight Sun 30-Dec-12 16:39:50

Hi CC!! Yes, praying.
And praying for everyone else too.
Been totally naff few days - more hate mail stuff - dh had to step in and tell someone to go away, which luckily they have, I think. Eee, God's work is harder than it looks.
But blessed indeed with good family and friends.

blackeyedsusan Sun 30-Dec-12 19:03:00

oh amber. not good. sad

well, i am in windows, sort of... thinggs are stretched sideways. apparently the version of windows we are using is old and had a wobbly when it encountered the monitor... sort of "what the heck was that?" and a refusal to work! h can't get the monitor driver to run... but has managed to do something to get a lesser resolution or something technical.. confused

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Sun 30-Dec-12 21:12:58

One day down, two to go! Coped ok as the day went by although feeling rotten now (curled up in bed). All ok though because I saw baby kicks making the outside of my stomach bounce tonight in the bath! smile

bes, praying for resolution with your computer! Praying for your Mum too for the future plans.

How is Bob feeling now Do?

Praying for your DD PA.

DontstepontheBaubles Sun 30-Dec-12 21:13:14

I'm hiding upstairs tonight after a little run in with mil blush Thankfully I go home tomorrow and DS can get back to normality. Long drive though first.

It was baked potatoes tonight and salad.

DutchOmainthestable Sun 30-Dec-12 21:26:02

Oh Mome, praying that you part on good terms with mil tomorrow. It's a shame that they cannot be a little more accommodating towards the children and make life a bit more pleasant for everybody. Hope you sleep well tonight and that the journey home is uneventful.
Faith how lovely to see the ripples in the bath made by little denizen. Hope you feel equally up to the tasks tomorrow.
BES glad computer is working-ish.

Bob did ok today, got dressed and downstairs for dinner, but he is obviously still suffering with this chest infection. Hopefully the last couple of days of antibiotics will see it off, otherwise I will have to be in touch with our own surgery on Wednesday.

blackeyedsusan Sun 30-Dec-12 22:55:08

now you see that would suit dd mome. she likes baked potatoes and has chosen that in preference to chips when out. she is better at punctuation than me (not difficult) asking questions about science I can not remember tha answer to.. and is more mature in her food choices than I am. blush <hides remains of christmas pudding and cream> ds on the other hand... <imagines scraping spat out potato off the wallpaper>

oo I am pleased I have just found the last ankle breaker marble from the present sil sent. astounding... given the mess

blackeyedsusan Sun 30-Dec-12 22:57:53

have a good journey and next time make ex take them and battle with potato and salad...

blackeyedsusan Sun 30-Dec-12 22:59:39

<wanders off muttering>

definatily think my childern are weird...

tears over broccoli... because they can't have more hmm

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Mon 31-Dec-12 03:15:44

In agony with earache, had to call in sick. 111 reckon it'll settle on its own hmm but prayer for relief greatly appreciated!

DutchOmainthestable Mon 31-Dec-12 11:16:52

O Faith that sounds horrible. Do go back if it doesn't settle quickly. Prayers.

MaryBS Mon 31-Dec-12 11:29:19

Not feeling 100% myself. Prayers for healing all round.

BES, I once told my kids that if they didn't behave themselves, they couldn't have any more sproutes grin

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Mon 31-Dec-12 11:36:36

It eased enough to help me sleep for a bit but still feel rough! Prayers for healing indeed.

blackeyedsusan Mon 31-Dec-12 11:39:33

oh faith. i spent new year 2 years ago in agony due to ear ache and have a lot of sympathy and prayers. i had to take ibuprofen and paracetamol to be able to bear/bare the pain enoughh to get to the walk in centre. ears can be agony.

Mary, when these things come out of your mouth do you think I hope nobody heard and think I am a pretentious middle-class twit? dd likes sprouts too.

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Mon 31-Dec-12 17:49:19

GP says its viral so will just pass in time. I guess I do feel slightly better....

My DMum spent years telling me I liked sprouts. She would always make me have at least one with roast dinner. I was 14 before I finally announced I hated them and haven't eaten one since!

Cuddledup Mon 31-Dec-12 18:25:07

Happy New Year to everyone and thank you for all your support and prayers throughout the past year. thanks thankswine

DontstepontheBaubles Mon 31-Dec-12 22:32:44

Happy new year!

So glad to be home. Long day! Still haven't eaten tonight. Two glasses of wine on an empty stomach was unwise blush

amberlight Mon 31-Dec-12 22:40:13

Happy New Year all of you smile

SESthebrave Mon 31-Dec-12 23:47:04

Sorry I've been absent the last month or so but you have all been in my thoughts and prayers. Happy New Year to you all and praying for a blessed 2013.

blackeyedsusan Tue 01-Jan-13 00:15:07

happy new year!

Happy New Year!

Not a great start here feeling sick, hopefully feeling better in the morning!

DontstepontheBaubles Tue 01-Jan-13 08:50:33

Oh Lord I've woken in a foul mood and I cannot even blame it on pmt as I've just finished. I'm very tired today, DS woke me a lot last night but why am I so cross and grumpy. The kids are getting it in the neck for everything and it's not even 9am yet sad

I'm hiding in my room trying to find my inner zen praying. It's not working sad

jan2013 Tue 01-Jan-13 09:05:06

happy new year everyone....also bad start to new year here too with dd up half the night totally shattered and feeling really low.

HarktheGingerCurlangelssing Tue 01-Jan-13 09:38:56

Happy New Year! Well the cold symptoms are finally starting to lift. No one appears to have a fever. That's a start. Thanks your prayers. Nephew didn't get worse, which was a relief.

DutchOmainthestable Tue 01-Jan-13 09:56:56

Prayers for all in this (happy?) New Year. Jesus is Lord.
Prayers for all feeling unwell.
Mome you have been holding a lot of grumpiness in over the past few days. Today is a new day. The weather isn't too bad. Go and do a bit of puddle jumping.

Badvoc Tue 01-Jan-13 11:00:49

Happy new year everyone.

blackeyedsusan Tue 01-Jan-13 13:31:01

aggghhh ds has taken a torch apart and lost the bulb. I am trying to search a firly messy living room for a small glass object. ... please pray.. small glass object and small feet do not go together.

MaryBS Tue 01-Jan-13 13:46:33

Eek BES, hope and pray you find it!

As for things coming out of my mouth. I've mostly ceased caring what other people think, unless there's good reason to care. For example if I insulted someone. smile

blackeyedsusan Tue 01-Jan-13 14:04:13

no luck so far.

DutchOmainthestable Tue 01-Jan-13 14:51:18

Prayed to St Anthony for you. Saint of lost causes!

blackeyedsusan Tue 01-Jan-13 16:18:17

shock you saying i am a lost cause oma? <snigger.>

I have a tidier living room at least.they are running around the middle and i am pretty sure it iss not there now.

DutchOmainthestable Tue 01-Jan-13 16:35:27

When all is said and done we are all lost causes, till Jesus saves us. So in that respect, no.. Where did you (or he) last have it?

blackeyedsusan Tue 01-Jan-13 18:02:03

well the bit that holds the bulb was under the sofa so I aam hoping the bulb has gone right under neath at the back. I took all the cushions off and pulled out the bed bit to look but did not stick my hand right undeneath. it could also be in the box of trrain track. i will empty it out after bed time to check. I am going to sort the detritus aound the edge of the room too in bit. being ill has left things a bit messy. eating tea first then going to take some pain killers as sinues are playing up again.

MaryBS Tue 01-Jan-13 18:02:48

Lost causes is St Jude, St Anthony is lost items (the ex-RC pedant is strong in this one... wink)

DutchOmainthestable Tue 01-Jan-13 19:39:10

Bicycle shops are good for new bulbs.

Oh yes, Mary, I knew that really.

SESthebrave Wed 02-Jan-13 08:47:08

Morning all!

Thought I'd try not to lose you smile

BES - did the bulb appear?

Jan - we can wallow in lack of sleep together. DD is teething and waking every 1-2hrs at the moment. Prayers for sleep needed!

Praying for you all that you will feel God's blessing upon you, his love surround you and his strength fill you.

Badvoc Wed 02-Jan-13 08:55:58

Good morning everyone.
Am hoping to book a holiday today for July (Northumberland) and to phone the OU to discuss restarting my degree!
Onwards and upwards....
Praying for lost bulbs, more sleep and relief from illness x

ZipadiSoozi Wed 02-Jan-13 12:13:20

CC - HELLO xx lovely to hear from you, can't believe dc so old! haha twins are 9yo x

DutchOmainthestable Wed 02-Jan-13 12:21:40

Go for it Badvoc.

Badvoc Wed 02-Jan-13 12:23:07

Just ordered my text books.....gulp....

DutchOmainthestable Wed 02-Jan-13 12:35:48

Oh, well done. What degree?

Badvoc Wed 02-Jan-13 13:01:42

Very excited.
And terrified.

Badvoc Wed 02-Jan-13 13:02:23's called an open degree so it means I can add lots of different modules, like religious studies of a science course...

DutchOmainthestable Wed 02-Jan-13 13:22:33

Oh yes, that is exciting.

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Wed 02-Jan-13 13:27:00

Wow, good on you Badvoc. I'd like to do something similar in the future myself!

I am starting to improve slowly! Still bunged up but the ear ache is easing. Happily not back at work til next Thursday (nights though, ick!) so got plenty of recovery time.

blackeyedsusan Wed 02-Jan-13 13:30:04

<falls in thread>

3 am 3AM 3AM ds kept me awake til 3 am. he went to bed at 7 woke up afterr a wee at about 11 and just did not go back to sleep. <yawn>

ChristmasKat Wed 02-Jan-13 16:42:03

Thank goodness I'm back to work and things are more 'normal' again. The Christmas break was worse than I imagined. H did a really good job of turning DS against me and was also verbally abusive to me almost every day. I managed to get out a lot to see family and friends. DS has been very difficult and stroppy and said some really horrible things to me. Hoping peace will return when just me and him together again most of the time. It was difficult for me to log on here but I'm back now....and praying.

ChristmasKat Wed 02-Jan-13 16:43:49

Feeling very scared and sad about the way things are turning out with DS. He told me he hates me and thinks the sun shines from H's .........

I've had a big read through and pray. Gutted that I missed CC and Sooooooz when they were here. DO do you know how CD is? I often wonder how she is getting on. Also, is Bob's chest infection improving at all with these antibiotics?

I have decided that Christmas is officially over in our household (and so relieved that the pressure to buy something, anything is gone). Tomorrow is my dating scan and first consultant appointment to talk about preventing another premmie. I'm so nervous! I'm also on two different anti-sickness tablets now and thoroughly fed up with being so ill with this pregnancy. However, I still wouldn't trade with my friend who had a thanksgiving/funeral for her son born 20 weeks too soon this morning sad

amberlight Wed 02-Jan-13 17:31:35

Praying through.
Kat, there is no requirement to let a partner have access to a child if that child is being turned against the other parent. Well worth a free half hour chat with a good solicitor, I'd say. Children are not weapons to be used against the other parent, and the courts aren't keen to see parents doing it - it causes emotional damage to the child, so it's worth them taking this very seriously indeed if that's what he's doing.

DutchOmainthestable Wed 02-Jan-13 20:01:18

Littleone have pm'd you.

SESthebrave Wed 02-Jan-13 21:34:48

LittleOne - not sure we've "met" but praying for your pregnancy and also for your friend.

Kat - that is not right and you shouldn't have to put up with it. Praying for God to step in.

DO - how is Bob doing? Praying for both of you

Please could I ask for your prayers for DH's aunt who is having an operation to remove a tumour in her lung tomorrow. It looks like the cancer is contained but the aunt is in her 70s and sole carer for her mum (DH's granny) who is 97yo and so praying for things to go smoothly and speedy healing with no complications.

jan2013 Wed 02-Jan-13 22:25:04


Praying for all.

I didn't sleep well last night and now have to get up and going despite needing a slow start to ward off the vomiting. My hospital appointment is at 09:40 and could last 2-3 hours. For various reasons, I have to go alone. I'm so nervous...

Also, cheekily can I add a prayer request for DD2 who has now finished steroids for croup but still sounds pretty awful. She is a very snugly delicate girl at the mo.

Cuddledup Thu 03-Jan-13 07:37:15

QUick question.... can anyone recommend an easy to remember version of the Lord's Prayer. The traditional version just doesn't make sense to me because it's old fashioned language and I always forget lines!.blush
Which version do you like or use ?

That's a good question cuddledup, is the version different in modern bibles like The Message? You could go on, search Luke 11 and keep changing the translation until you find one you like?

I say it like a robot as I've gone to church my whole life and I do not even think about it blush

MaryBS Thu 03-Jan-13 08:39:40

There is the modern translation of the Lords prayer:

Our Father in Heaven
Hallowed by your name
Your kingdom come
Your will be done on earth as in heaven
Give us today our daily bread
Forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us
Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil
for the kingdom, the power and the glory are yours, now and forever Amen.

Not hugely different but it might help.

MaryBS Thu 03-Jan-13 08:40:03

Hallowed BE your name blush

Cuddled up Here is the Message version:

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what's best— as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You're in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You're ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Might not be what you want, but maybe it will "explain" the older language that you are finding difficult.

HAPPY NEW YEAR to you all. We have just had a couple of lovely days away. First time I have entered a new year with sunburn and jumped straight into the pool at midnight! We had 24 hours of relaxing just the 4 of us, then we were joined by 72 people from our church for a New Year party. Wonderful, wonderful time. (the church started in April with 15 people and all the "newbies" are new converts or people interested in Christianity, so very exciting times)

Dutchoma Thu 03-Jan-13 10:05:40

PA how exciting.
LittleOne prayers that your appointment goes well, let us know how it has gone?

Not sure what's going on with Bob, he felt 'awful' yesterday but could not say what kind of 'awful', like 'a weight in his chest'. No pain, very low temperature (35.8), no vomitting, no bringing up phlegm, nothing. So we both slept a bit, still totally worn out this morning, both of us. But I rang the home oxygen service and the lady who's doing the arterial blood gases tests had a vacancy and is coming at lunch time. That's a prayer answered before it was uttered, don't you agree those are the best?

blackeyedsusan Thu 03-Jan-13 11:17:58

oh yes oma!

how did the appointment go room?

I have rung the secretary for the dr and checked the time of the appointment... 11.30 on monday... (writes it in another place so I can check!)

I am still here. I should be at granny's. I did a little packing yesterday. did not finish so got to finish today and try to drive up later. (110 mile round trip to mums, further to the home) I am really struggling. every phone call is difficult with mum. we go over the same stuff again and again... how long she is staying, what is she going to do about cooking/cleaning/shopping/medicine/staying in the home/taking the phone back. I get told how "they" think I am not doing enough for her and how awful they think I am for not coming up. not sure how true it si but it is very demoralising. mum just can't help it, but it does not make it easier.

I have lost my dad and my mum in less than 4 months. I have got aan old lady who needs support back in return. the children's dad is not as available, due to losing his mother. he has split responsibilities too. I have been worried sick he will react badly to his mums death. we are still not through the danger period.

I am waiting for the results of ds's tests...

I am having extra meetings with the head teacher due to ds's behaviour and setting up a caf. (also due to the dv)

mot and tax to organise...

and I can not shake this cold/sinus infection and ds keeps me awake at night... not a big deal in themselves but..

as you can tell I have just got off the phone to mum and am having a whinge fest... going to eat breakfast and help me feel better!

I'm going to try to link to my update about this morning's appointment...

Here it is

The scan was lovely and all appears well. I feel rough as anything now that the appointment is over. Toast and bed for me...

Dutchoma Thu 03-Jan-13 12:22:53

Thanks for letting us know. doesn't seem you are much wiser than you were before, but at least you have marked the spot, so to speak.

amberlight Fri 04-Jan-13 07:17:03

Roomfora....yes, toast and bed sounds just the tonic.
Ons, hope all goes ok today...
Prayers all round

Praying for BES and her needs with various members of her family this morning. I hope that it isn't too hard going with Granny and that your mum stops piling all of her frustrations on to you. Praying for peace to reign and for that to be evident to others.

TuoComeLetUsAdoreHim Fri 04-Jan-13 18:02:43

Helloooooo! I'm back! Did you miss me?

Just got in and am putting off unpacking and catching up quickly, so won't type much now, but wanted to wish everyone a happy and blessed 2013. Thinking of you all. Will be back once I'm more organised.

Cuddledup Fri 04-Jan-13 20:56:05

Sorry for my delayed thank yous for suggestions on the Lord's Prayer. positive I think the Message version is too modern, Mary I like yours.
At the moment I"m just practicing and practicing the old version so I don't forget it at my dad's funeral next week.
BES sorry to hear about all the RL crap you're having to deal with. You sound like a saint to me, so here's some thanks and a glass of wine to help you get through the weekend!

While I think about it, Mome, how is your brother?

niminypiminy Fri 04-Jan-13 22:37:14

Welcome back Tuo!

Reading and praying.

cloutiedumpling Sat 05-Jan-13 11:08:46

Sorry to hear about your Dad Cuddledup. There are so many different versions of the Lord's prayer. If you are in Scotland we tend to say debts and debtors rather than trespasses. It always confuses me when I am down south and I always stumble over it. My sister who has been out of Scotland for years now stumbles over the Scottish version. Don't worry about having to get it right. As it can differ slightly between different churches in the same denomination most people get a little confused at some time or other.

MadHairDay Sat 05-Jan-13 11:33:04

Hello everyone! Not been around as I've been resting at the ILs and then the parents for a week. It's been a good rest but I'm not recovering as quickly as I would like - still have a lot of pain and shortness of breath.

I feel like there is so much to do now having 'lost' December!

Have read through and prayed. Prayers especially to BES, Kat, Oma.

Lovely to see CC and Milliways too. I miss CD on here as well.

Must try not to get too dragged into MN now I'm back, but try and get the house sorted a bit, dh won't let me do too much yet. cracked ribs take 4 weeks plus to mend apparently.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sat 05-Jan-13 20:25:33

Welcome back Tuo! Hope you had fun.

Continuing to pray for ongoing issues - kat and jan for relationships, bes for energy and family issues, Bob's health.

I am loads better from the lurch although still sniffly. DH is suffering now though! Random prayer request - my sister has a tortoise that she adores. He was in hibernation and he's really ill. He's at the bet who is trying to rehydrate him but it's touch and go. He's only about 7 so you'd expect him to live another 50 years. Please pray he'll pull through!

Dutchoma Sat 05-Jan-13 21:04:25

I love it that we pray for some many and varied things Faith. We had a tortoise who was about 30 and he upped and went, never to be seen again.

Tuo Sat 05-Jan-13 23:57:55

Oh my goodness! I've gone down with the most hideous cold/sinus infection. The pressure inside my head is something else and my nose is gushing. Please pray that I feel better before Monday, when I have to go back to work, as I have a zillion things to do and do not really want to be an achey, snotty, grumbling mess!

Praying for everyone with all their various needs. Thinking especially of MHD, Faith, Bob, Momey's brother, and Room and praying for health for all of them. Praying for strength for those in difficult situations because of relationships (Jan, BES, Kat) and for the recently bereaved (BES again, CuddledUp).

Don't worry about remembering the prayer, CuddledUp... there will be enough people saying it that you'll get sort of 'carried along', I'm sure. (Having said that, when my girls were briefly at a Catholic school - when we lived in the US - I kept showing myself up by forgetting to stop a 'deliver us from evil...'. I felt as if I might as well be wearing a big shiny 'Protestant' sign on my head! Not that anyone minded, of course... but I did feel a bit blush when it was just me going 'For thine is the ... [tails off] Ahem!'.)

Faith, I love torties. Praying for your sister's to get well soon.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 06-Jan-13 00:04:00

Sadly tortie RIP'd sad

Praying for your health Tuo. That is what I'm recovering from!

Tuo Sun 06-Jan-13 12:18:10

Aww... RIP little Tortie. Hope your sister is OK.

Feeling marginally better today. Still full of cold, but sinuses less blocked which is a relief. Made it to church as DD2 was reading, but could quite happily go back to bed again now.

jan2013 Sun 06-Jan-13 13:28:59

sorry i haven't been able to catch up on thread as have not had a minute lately, and it seems all hell has broken loose. please pray! i made a start on making our finances independent from one another, and dh is very angry, because of the consequences and implications of this. our whole financial situation has got very complicated, that i can't go into detail, it is very confusing to me, and he is becoming very demanding, making constant calls etc. we will both lose money. i need to wait till tomorrow as i need to try to arrange to see a solicitor or at least citizens advice. i don't feel confident sorting this out with dh myself.
and at church this morning, people asked where dd was - she was with dh and i didn't know if she was also at church and i guess i made a mess of the answer i gave as i was put on the spot. i felt very embarrassed and one of the pastors asked me about us, when i told him we were not back together yet and it was not looking like it was heading that way he said 'what about the baby' which really upset me. i said i was protecting her. i feel like they don't understand at all. i feel like they don't agree with separation, and they think it is damaging to the children (it was said in a sermon a few weeks back). i feel quite vulnerable going to church and also, i don't want to leave this church.

really need prayer for wisdom and guidance....feel like there is storm all around me.

blackeyedsusan Sun 06-Jan-13 13:39:31

oh jan. time to find another church I think. it is eaasier ` at a new chur7ch. they will acceopt that you come and as single parent. you are doing your best to protect dd. there are situations where it is best for children for you to be separate.

oh and if he continues to bombard you with clalls, try to get some sort of legal restraint on him for harrassment or something. you will then also hjave concrete evidence for church. (not that you will want to stay there anyway. they have a poor biblical understanding of marriage. it is not ok to force you to stay in a relationship when he has already broken his vows to love honour cherish.

Dutchoma Sun 06-Jan-13 14:09:53

Praying for you that you will be able to 'fix your eyes upon Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith' (Heb12:2)
There is a hymn about the 'storm is all around me', I can sing it but can't think of the first line.
Nobody likes separation, in that respect I can understand your pastor, but he will need to look at the whole story and then try to understand where you are coming from. You are trying to protect dd from a life of arguments between her parents and from a life where her mother is totally downtrodden and miserable. If your h would gree with you and help yu it would be in everybody's best interest, but I'm afraid pigs will fly before he sees that. So your dd is entirely dependent on you to do what is best for her in the face of all opposition.

jan2013 Sun 06-Jan-13 15:10:38

thanks... been at these forms all weekend, just finished and got everything ready... i feel a bit sick actually. he was hassassing me to talk to me and i said either email me or go to a solicitor... i haven't heard anything from him now. im so nervous and anxious!

yeah, the church thing is so hard. my friend went through the same thing, and noone talks about it now and she just held her head up and goes to church fine, but i feel its different because her dh did not go to the same church. its so awkward with him going. the problem with leaving is that he wouldn't agree with me making dd join a new church, and he would be taking her there on alternate sundays, which wouldn't be very good for her... its all so complicated.

i feel so all over the place.

blackeyedsusan Sun 06-Jan-13 15:50:02

it would be better for her to go to two different churches, with a happy mother, than going to one church and having the complication of not knowing which parent she is supposed to be with. how is it good for her to see her mother at church when she is supposed to be with dad? especially as he is likely to be such an idiot about the whole thing. also the church people are going to be comnfused as to which parent to contact if there is a problem.

blackeyedsusan Sun 06-Jan-13 15:53:48

thanks room for praying on Friday. I needed it. it was a difficult visit to mum. she really is not all there at the moment, is poorrly and unhappy. she found ds very difficult and embarressing.

we are home. I am not stressing about ds breaking stuff, climbing on stuff or messing stuff up at mums. I am very stiff as I have moved lots of furrniture and a freezer.

Dutchoma Sun 06-Jan-13 16:19:00

You are a Good Girl BES. Your mother would appreciate it more if she wasn't so unhappy and out of her depth.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 06-Jan-13 16:28:18

I'm sorry it's still so tough bes. Are you considering that your DMum might be better off staying long term? She doesn't seem to be settling considering how long it's been. Make sure you get in the bath to ease those aching muscles.

Sorry it's so tough jan, I agree with the others though. As long as the fundamentals of the teachings of the two churches aren't different, it won't do her any harm to go to a different church every other Sunday.

blackeyedsusan Sun 06-Jan-13 20:22:49

wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ados results, or not, tomorrow. someone else I know had an inconclusive result...

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 06-Jan-13 20:44:10

Oh gosh bes there's so much going on! Ok praying for a clear and accurate result and that DS gets the support he needs regardless.

Tuo Mon 07-Jan-13 00:39:46

Praying for clear and helpful results tomorrow, BES. And also for your mum. And, above all, for you. You have so much on your plate and yet you always seem to deal with it with fortitude and strength. Hang on in there... we're all praying.

And for you too, Jan. I second what others have said, that it is better for you to separate and have a chance of happiness than for your DD to grow up in a home where her mum is treated badly and is desperately unhappy, and that it won't harm your DD at all to go to two different churches. Thinking of you and praying for calm

Thinking about the latest 'gay bishops' thing that has been in the news - on top of the 'women bishops' issue and all the rest - and feeling the need to pray for the CofE and its leadership, especially the new ABC. I know where I stand personally on these issues, but to guide the Church to a resolution on any or all of them will be a real feat of leadership. I pray, then, for wisdom for Church leaders and for loving acceptance on all sides of the various divides, so that we can see that what binds us together (the fundamental Christian good news) is stronger than the little things that keep us apart.

Adding my prayers for BES and Jan. May both of these tricky situations have some light shined on them and for there to be clarity for all parties involved.

Get well soon Tuo and may your recovery continue MHD,

Faith I'm surprised by how gutted I am about Tortie. I always wanted one and feel very annoyed that it's hibernation period wasn't peaceful.

DH started a placement yesterday for his course and he is back at college this week. Please pray that I manage to look after the children safely so that DH doesn't miss any more college and that he catches up with his essays. He is doing really well but looking after me and the children has made him behind. It would help a lot if I could sleep better at night time as I would find the days easier.

blackeyedsusan Mon 07-Jan-13 10:20:12

I am nervously waiting for the time to go to the appointment.

rip tortie. sad

Dutchoma Mon 07-Jan-13 10:35:38

Littleone, that's another thing I have missed: your dh's career change. What's he doing now? Sounds interesting. Praying for your health and strength and sleep at night.
Praying for BES this morning as she gets her ados results. Praying that they will be clear and that, if not, she will get the help anyway. Also praying that there will be no additional burdens on her and that she will be able to deal with her mother in the best and kindest way.
TUO very good point, praying for the Church of England and its new Archbishop. A friend of mine, who has met him, described him as 'smooth and very capable'. She also said there were attitudes that she had come across that greatly disturbed her, so prayer for those issues is greatly needed.

I'm concerned for Bob, who seems to have slipped straight into the doom and gloom of earlier days. There is nothing much that I can put my finger on, we didn't get a district nurse's visit on Thursday, so I have no outside perspective. It is his last day at the day hospice on Wednesday, I will see them tomorrow, so will have a word then to see whether they have any idea what is going on. He is blowing out vast amounts of clear snot (sorry if tmi), I ironed 17 hankies last week and 16 yesterday, what is that all about?

blackeyedsusan Mon 07-Jan-13 10:41:47

clear snot is a viral infection or an allergy... if i remember correctly...

this morning was not the morning to have a conversation with the head teacher on only about 5 hours interrupted sleep. he will be authorising the absences for the funeral though.

blackeyedsusan Mon 07-Jan-13 11:03:04

here we go.... will post later. we re going to town to get milk and other stuff after!

jan2013 Mon 07-Jan-13 12:57:19

praying BES hope youre ok, thinking of you all, have a solicitors appt at 2 here, nervous!

jan2013 Mon 07-Jan-13 12:58:46

oh missed your post DO....thats awful about Bob im really sorry he is slipping into feeling low... that must be so difficult for you too. hugs and prayers

blackeyedsusan Mon 07-Jan-13 17:59:42

we have diagnosis! asd, no learning difficulties, some sensory processing disorder. we have to wait for the about a week. official confirmation of what I knew already! he has access to help now. referral to ot, autism support service and a nursery nurse who will give us more informtion.

niminypiminy Mon 07-Jan-13 18:05:22

BES it's great that you have a diagnosis - hopefully this will give you the leverage to get the support that you need. Now the life-long process of learning about autism and about loving a person with autism starts.

I'm sure it's a huge relief to get it confirmed, but I found that I went through a period of mourning too. Even when it is what you have been expecting and hoping for, there is still something so final about it. Your son has something that will always be part of him, that will never be cured, and that will be part of your family's life for ever. In one way nothing has changed - he is still your lovely boy. But in another way, everything has.

You'll be very much in my prayers.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 07-Jan-13 18:25:36

Ah BES. I'm sorry he has it but I'm glad the assessment provided an accurate representation of his needs and that you'll get the support you need from appropriate services. Praying for your family as this all sinks in smile

Praying for Bob too, that he feels better both health wise and in mood in the next week.

blackeyedsusan Mon 07-Jan-13 18:34:52

thanks niminy, for putting it into words, it is like that. although I wish he did not have it is has been obvious for a while and getting a diagnosis label to describe what he already has is good. phase one over. phase two begins now.

bes I did my last year placement in college with children with autism and worked with them for 2 years as well. Last year of college I translated this book from English to Dutch: Navigating the social world, by Jeanette Mcafee. It has lots of practical things that you can use in daily life to make things easier for DS!

MaryBS Mon 07-Jan-13 20:29:14

BES, if you need anyone to talk to I'm here. I remember how I felt when DS was diagnosed... xx prayers for you.

blackeyedsusan Mon 07-Jan-13 21:17:33

thanks mary. I will probably take you up on it when I have regained the ability to be coherant. it was a short night..

niminypiminy Mon 07-Jan-13 22:17:46

Likewise BES - if you want to talk at any point about the joys and sorrows of having a son on the spectrum I'm here x

Kaykat Mon 07-Jan-13 22:26:07

Just had an awful two weeks, H was verbally abusive almost every day it actually made me ill with symptoms of stress (seeing GP tomorrow). I escaped lots to family but then was alarmed at the attitude of DS towards me when I got back. All ok now, DS back to normal, sweet and lovely at times and stroppy teenager at other times but he seems so much happier today too.

Today H gone back to work and not here any more hooray and I already feel better and calmer. He says things then says I have said them, he shouts then tells me I have shouted, he says something one day then the opposite the next, nothing is rational it's like living in a fog so I try not to take anything he says to heart.

I don't know how to cope with living in the same house for months until the divorce comes through, even if only a couple of days a week, it's going to make me ill.

blackeyedsusan Mon 07-Jan-13 23:02:00

oh kay love. ((hugs)) have you posted on relationships about gaslighting? he seems to be doing that to you.

can you call the police if he is threatening, or is that going to make it worse?

Kaykat Mon 07-Jan-13 23:40:24

Thanks BES, no haven't posted in relationships but have read about gaslighting. I called the police a few weeks back, nothing serious enough for them to do anything but they have my details on alert for fast response if necessary.

Tuo Tue 08-Jan-13 00:11:06

Prayers for all, and especially:
- for peace at home, and with DS, for Kaykat;
- for BES as she comes to terms with her DS's diagnosis, and for all the lovely people who are here to support and help and who know what it's like;
- for Bob to be in better spirits soon;
- for a helpful and reassuring solicitor's appointment for Jan;
- for CuddledUp, whose dad's funeral is tomorrow, I think.

Thanks for prayers for me. I feel a lot better, though I have now moved onto annoying coughing... cough! splutter! grrr!

blackeyedsusan Tue 08-Jan-13 00:24:20

jan, here is a sermon by a wellknown, respected teacher in the church... author of several books. scroll down for marriage sermon.

please note the sentence, god hates divorce, but he hates abuse more...

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 08-Jan-13 00:31:54

Hi all,

Mememe post! Been admitted to hospital! Had some abdo pain (upper right side) and since it can be a sign of preeclampsia I got checked out. They think its inflamed gall bladder so staying in tonight scan tomorrow hopefully. Prayers that it all settles and I can go home appreciated, I hate it on the other side!angry

Dutchoma Tue 08-Jan-13 07:08:30

Prayers for speedy recovery Faith. How come you can post at midnight from the hospital? smile

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 08-Jan-13 07:14:11

On my (very) smart phone with just about enough signal! I've had very little sleep - on assessment unit so busy anyway and a few agitated patients. They can't help it but not conducive to sleep! Desparately hoping they'll scan me this morning and discharge me!

Praying for Faith. Hospitals are rubbish for sleep so I hope you can come home ASAP.

Tuo I've just developed that cough too. I've had a rubbish night's sleep and have to look after DS by myself this morning in front of the HV doing his two year check. I am exhausted and still very sick. Well enough to keep DS safe but not very fun to be around.

Dutchoma Tue 08-Jan-13 09:02:10

Hoping and praying for you Faith

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 08-Jan-13 09:05:02

Hooray, consultant says I can go home! Just waiting for paperwork. Guess it was work me staying in to check pain settled but not an experience I'm keen to repeat.

Praying for everyone under the weather.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 08-Jan-13 09:07:31

Hooray, consultant says I can go home! Just waiting for paperwork. Guess it was work me staying in to check pain settled but not an experience I'm keen to repeat.

Praying for everyone under the weather.

Dutchoma Tue 08-Jan-13 09:41:41

That was a prayer quickly answered. Thank you, Lord

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 08-Jan-13 09:45:26

Amen! smile

jan2013 Tue 08-Jan-13 10:13:41

hi i am finding it so hard to keep up on the thread. thinking of you all. sometimes wish life would stop for awhile! praying for all the situations. solicitors appointment went really well, thanks so much for prayer. lots still to sort out. still really upset about the church situation - i really don't want to have to leave as ilove my church and i don't think i would find another one to even compare, i just don't know what to do.

Cuddledup Tue 08-Jan-13 13:27:05

Off to my dad's funeral in a moment. Feel sick with anxiety. Prayers please.

MadHairDay Tue 08-Jan-13 13:35:08

Praying for all of you, so many of you in such difficult situations - sending love and prayers to each and every one.

BES, so pleased ds has got a dx. I know that sounds odd but I remember the relief when dd finally got a dx of dyspraxia and things fell into place and we could access support etc. Sounds like you'll be able to do that now and things will be better. It is also so hard and there is that time of mourning too, I know many lovely ladies on here know what that is like. love and prayers.

Kaykat, oh love, it must be so very difficult for you, with ds having been like that too and h acting the way he is. I pray things will get better for you soon.

And for you too, Jan, it must be heartbreaking with the church thing, I cannot even imagine, I pray you come to a decision right for you all.

Faith, so glad all is well.

Blue, how are things with your gorgeous new dd? smile

Oma, so sorry to hear that Bob is struggling right now and feeling so low about things. For you to live with this must be so very hard some days. much love.

Praying for CuddledUp and the funeral.

DC back at school today - things very quiet! A friend has been round this morning to keep me company which was lovely. |I can't get out much yet. I still have a lot of pain and worried I still have fluid on the lungs as I cannot breathe deeply yet. They said it was cracked ribs but it isn't healing. So prayers would be good. I need to see the doctor soon. It seems worse today, maybe it's the damp. It's just taking it a day at a time and accepting that I really cannot do much and need to rest, and that's OK. (still frustrated though)

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 08-Jan-13 13:41:06

Praying for you at this difficult time cuddled.

That must be tough jan. If you love your church you need to stand your ground but I realise that'll be tough. Praying for God's hand in that situation.

Praying for your health mhd! Hope you get answers soon.

Praying for everyone!

mhd we're doing fine! Had her weighed today and she weighs 10lb9oz and is 54cm at nearly 8 weeks old!
Are you up for visitors?

MadHairDay Tue 08-Jan-13 16:27:01

Yes Blue definitely if you are able to get over, would be lovely to see you smile

Super! What about Monday? Just me and Lotta sometime between 10am and 2pm? smile

Cuddledup Tue 08-Jan-13 21:24:00

Thank you for all prayers, they were answered in abundance. The church was full! I sobbed and was sad but that's normal and it was a lovely lovely service and lots of people came back to our house for tea. My dad would have been thrilled. THANK YOU.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 08-Jan-13 21:33:10

Oh Cuddled, it's healthy to cry. I'm really glad it was a positive experience and a good send off.

Tuo Tue 08-Jan-13 23:08:37

Cuddled - I am pleased to hear that the day went off as well as it could. I will keep praying for you, because I know that the days following the funeral can be difficult in a strangely anticlimactic sort of a way. Praying that you're getting lots of RL support too.

MHD - Good to see you, but sorry that you're still in pain and not feeling well. I hope you get answers (and more importantly, feel better) soon.

Faith - Sorry to hear that you ended up in hospital, but glad that all is well and you've been sent home. Take care of yourself. How many weeks are you now?

Jan - I agree with Faith. If you love your church, then the only option is to hold your ground, feel secure in the decisions that you have taken (for your own good and for that of your dd) and in God's love - and in that security hold your head up high, and don't be made to feel bad. Praying for a good outcome for you, though it will probably take time...

Oma - Prayers for you and for Bob; how are you both feeling today?

Do you remember that ... ooh ... ages ago, I said that I felt I wanted to get more involved at church, but didn't know how, didn't have a lot of time, wasn't sure about braving DH's disapproval, etc etc etc? Well, I'm not big on New Year's Resolutions, but 2013 is going to be the year when I make that happen. I have volunteered to help out as a server when needed and I do my first service in February, and tonight I went to a meeting to find out about being a sidesperson, which I will hopefully start doing in March. I felt stupidly nervous going to this meeting - I felt as if everyone would wonder why I was there, and no-one would talk to me, and I'd feel out-of-place, and ... well, all ridiculous of course - people were nice, I made some suggestions which went down well, and I came away with a warm glow. Oh, and DH didn't grumble (he didn't exactly enthuse either, but ho hum... one step at a time).

CharlotteCollinsislost Wed 09-Jan-13 05:49:18

Just popping in to update - sorry to be in and out and usually absent these days.

While we were on holiday, I prayed that if separating is God's will, that the house rental would all be sorted smoothly, as I didn't think I could cope with obstacles. Perhaps a silly thing to pray.

I came back home and found the house has been taken off the market. There is nowhere else.

Maybe he is changing? Maybe he is not as bad as I make him out to be? Had a glimmer of hope yesterday in a long conversation with him, but now he thinks everything's ok again and is on about moving overseas. I don't want to, but otoh, I don't want to do anything or not do anything - this place doesn't really feel like home either: a long way from church, and not sure there are like-minded people around.

In short, I thought this year was going to be really positive, and now suddenly I've found myself in a huge fog of negativity.

niminypiminy Wed 09-Jan-13 10:11:05

Charlotte, I pray that things will become clear for you, and that you will see your next step before you, even if the longer term is still hazy.

Tuo, that's great news about being a server! Exciting! Going to the meeting was courageous - glad it went so well.

'Lord Jesus, by the loneliness of your suffering on the cross, be near to all who are desolate, and in pain and in sorrow; let your presence transform their sorrow into comfort, and their loneliness into fellowship with you; for the sake of your tender mercy. Amen.' (George Appleton)

Praying for all who post on this thread, and all whose needs are known only to God. Holding us all in his living, loving light.

MadHairDay Wed 09-Jan-13 11:10:27

TUO that is so brilliant, good for you! I'm sure you'll really enjoy being more involved smile

Charlotte, I don't know what to say really, but we are here - (we must re-arrange that visit soon) - praying that God will give you wisdom and clarity.

Cuddled, so glad it went well.

Blue, Monday is a bit full up, any other days any good? smile

Good posts niminy and others on the thread about fb - I haven't got clarity of mind atm to join in but reading and appreciating your input.

cloutiedumpling Wed 09-Jan-13 11:40:07

Thank you for your prayers for DD. I'm now back at work and she has settled well into nursery, even taking milk from a bottle.

Lurking and praying.

jan2013 Wed 09-Jan-13 11:55:04

Charlotte its so hard when you don't know what to do and you keep thinking things are going to get better. praying also for guidance and Gods will in your life.

Mhd thats excitingthat you are going to be getting visitors from mn smilesmile trust for your continued recovery.

DO hope you and Bob are doing ok

Tuo its hard taking that first step but im sure you are so glad you did and i hope it leads to great things.

thinking of each of you. i went to citizens advice today, and have learned that i am going to be worse off as a result of everything, once our finances are sorted out. i am not able to do this job anymore as i can't get the childcare for both that and my placements... im very disappointed, and im finding it generally hard to cope at the minute with all the changes that are just coming a bit too fast.

CharlotteCollinsislost Wed 09-Jan-13 12:13:29

Jan, I've floated the idea with H of coming to visit you at some point - too early to get your hopes up, I think, but wouldn't it be nice? Then you'd have an mn visitor, too! smile

I'm so grateful for all your prayer support! Feeling stronger now the day is here (and it's a beautiful one in my part of the country).

Praying for all but struggling to keep up a bit.

I'm feeling very yucky after having to do too much yesterday. DH had to go back down to Southampton for the evening so after looking after DS all morning and DS plus DD2 in the afternoon, I had to finish off tea time and do bedtime for all 3 by myself. I ended up with a migraine and even worse nausea/sickness than usual.

DO how is Bob's mood now? And your's?

Cuddledup Wed 09-Jan-13 13:28:35

Tuo you're right after all the stresses and strains of the past few weeks everything is feeling a bit of an anticlimax today. There have been lots of tears which is good. (Congrats on taking the first steps to become a sides person)

Nimin I love that prayer - it sums up exactly how I feel today. THank you.

Yesterday a friend (of Orthodox tradition) gave me a lovely postcard of the Icon of the Resurrection - this is given for condolence and used at Easter. It feels so appropriate and hopeful.

Prayers for all

Dutchoma Wed 09-Jan-13 15:21:05

Thank you all for your prayers. Bob went off to his last session at the hospice, not having slept well. I have had a day off in the sunshine. He has a place at a new day centre in town and I know he is dreading it. Hopefully there has been some positive reinforcement at the hospice, they are very good at that.

Prayers for all.

mhd I've only got the car during the day on Mondays and Wednesdays, but just started a baby yoga course with Lotta on Wednesday morning and afternoon is church toddler group. Did miss it today as we fell asleep on the sofa. Could do any day but late afternoon/evening?

Praying for everyone!

MadHairDay Wed 09-Jan-13 16:10:14

Mondays are a bit choc ful as I have prayer triplet and other meetings most weeks. Any day late afternoon is fine if you don't mind mad children, bring yours both over if you like! I'm not much up to evenings yet as I go to bed stupidly early, but we'll come up with something! smile

Can someone pray for bedtime, please. DH is about to return with 3 DC from chapel and I feel more sick and have more of a headache than when they went. Please don't let me throw up in front of the kids or shout at them, Lord.

Dutchoma Wed 09-Jan-13 19:26:56

Praying for you right now LittleOne

amberlight Wed 09-Jan-13 19:39:24


Thanks for the prayers. Bedtime was swift without vomiting or shouting. I'm going to try and eat something and go straight to bed now. Today has been really bad sad

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 09-Jan-13 21:33:38

Can't recall who asked?! But I'm 25 weeks now! Definite bump and a very lively baby today! She now kicks back when I pat my tummy which is amazing!

I'm praying for everyone as I read....

Charlotte, I do hope your H can change to save your marriage. I don't think you were being unreasonable when you voiced your concerns before but it does sound like he's making an effort at present,

DO I hope Bob's session at the day centre went well.

jan I imagine financially that's the case for most people sadly. I think you have to focus on the quality of life you'll have when you're independent.

Room praying you sleep well and have a better day tomorrow.

blackeyedsusan Wed 09-Jan-13 21:42:18

have read. will pray when I am bac to being horizontal.

been vommitting all day. not ooften with an audience but ds does the best being sick imprression around... having watched several timestoday and before. grin

I have just about managed to care for children. they have been fed and watered and givien a little attention, if not enough. ds has picked the paint off the door, taken the slidy bit off the computer desk and generrally covered the floor with toys and sofa cushions while i have been otherwise occupied.

Dutchoma Wed 09-Jan-13 21:44:46

Sleep well LittleOne

Kaykat Thu 10-Jan-13 00:21:13

Prayers for everyone, especially thinking of those who are sick, bereaved, in difficult marriages and starting new ventures.

I'm having a lovely few days, all the problems with DS over the hols gone, GP was reassuring, work enjoyable and paperwork gone to solicitors. When he's not here I feel normal! Felt a little pang earlier when I thought he's probably off with some woman, I wonder how long that feeling lasts, after all he's already done the worst he could do so why should it even matter? Never mind I need to follow my head right now and that's what I'm doing.

Dutchoma Thu 10-Jan-13 07:37:30

Well done Kay. I'm sure we will all hold you in prayer over the weekend. And your ds.

MaryBS Thu 10-Jan-13 07:39:23

Prayers for all those feeling ill... not feeling 100% myself!

blackeyedsusan Thu 10-Jan-13 07:48:13

oh mary.

feeling a little delicate today, but a lot better.

Tuo Thu 10-Jan-13 08:42:10

In haste, as I need to get to work... only on here because I realised I'd given students two different times as the deadline for handing in their essays today and needed to correct the wrong one urgently... oops... prayers for me to get my act together might be in order blush!)

Just to say that I am praying for you all. Get well soon BES, Mary, MHD, Bob and anyone else who's ill. Room - hoping today is a better day for you. Kay, Jan and Charlotte - thinking of your situations and praying lots.

jan2013 Thu 10-Jan-13 11:13:09

feel all hells broke loose this week with the finances. dh blaming me for everything. us both much worse off. thinking of u all

blackeyedsusan Thu 10-Jan-13 11:28:09

of course he will blame you. doesn't mean it is true though does it. his behaviour is reaping consequences. tough luck to him. shame you have to lose out thoug, but better than being with an abusive husband.

MaryBS Fri 11-Jan-13 10:14:39

Jan Blaming you gives him chance to excuse his behaviour. Typical abusive response "I'm a nice guy, so it must be that you're horrible thats making me behave like this". Been there, done that. It does hurt though for a while. It stopped hurting me when I realised this is what he was doing.

I've now got earache to match my cold...

blackeyedsusan Fri 11-Jan-13 12:17:50

ouch. ear ache is bad. sorry you are unwell mary

HavingALittleFaithBaby Fri 11-Jan-13 17:42:48

jan I agree with the above. More mind games so he can try to make himself look better.

Mary, steam is your friend!

I am on nights confused I never liked them but I am really struggling now. Have asked boss for no more nights. The money does not outweigh the impact on my health whilst pregnant! I'll probably resurface Sunday when I finish.

blackeyedsusan Fri 11-Jan-13 23:40:17

oh heck. it is coming up to the anniversarry of leaving h at the side of the road... I am distracted and can't think straight. my head is all over the plaace. tearful aand feeling sick.

MaryBS Sat 12-Jan-13 07:35:32

Steam? Robert loves steam trains, not sure if its the weather for them though wink

Prayers for you especially today BES, these anniversaries sometimes seem to leap up and bite us on the bum. It does get easier though. Try rest if you can, even if its just a few minutes. Be gentle on yourself

Dutchoma Sat 12-Jan-13 09:35:03

Now, this is quite funny. I know what BES means by 'steam', but I'm not sure Mary does. And of course it isn't literally 'steam' that BES is talking about, but water vapour, head over a bowl of hot water 'steam'.
Sorry to hear about anniversary flashbacks BES, praying for you and for all in need.

Kaykat Sat 12-Jan-13 10:10:15

Some good news, a new woman's aid lady has taken over from the one I couldn't get hold off and gave up trying. She wants to meet me to discuss everything. Very pleased. Also I have no idea where H is but he isn't here. Feeling content and relaxed.

Prayers for BES, Mary, Jan and everyone else, I remember you all often in my prayers.

jan2013 Sat 12-Jan-13 10:21:50

Kaykat thinking of you much. so glad you are getting a break from you dh, it makes you feel like a different person doesn't it... hope this new woman is a help.

BES so sorry you are going through the memories etc... maybe if you are struggling to switch it out of your head you could make a list of the positive ways in which your life has changed for the better to help you feel better since that time. i think i saw a thread about it on the lone parents section awhile back entitled something like 'good things about being a single parent!'

MaryBS Sat 12-Jan-13 11:08:13

Its OK, DO I knew what was meant, I was being deliberately silly blush.

jan2013 Sat 12-Jan-13 11:29:48

Mary how are you feeling today? hope you are a bit better... im sure the cold weather isn't helping... thinking of you, mhd and the everyone else xx

Kaykat Sat 12-Jan-13 11:56:26

Yes Jan I feel like a different person, I love it that no one is trying to control me. Re your money situation I pray that The Lord makes your money stretch further, so although you are technically worse off, you actually will be better off.

blackeyedsusan Sat 12-Jan-13 12:44:09

ahem.. think it was faith... smile

bowl of hot water, head over bowl, breathe in hot wet air..

trying to go and get ready to go to mums. and not have a strop because she has changed her mind about stuff tha involved a lot of humping furniture.

I am looking at ds funny... he is behaving... normally or not nt or whatever... I expect it will wear off in a day or two when I have got used to the diagnosis. i knew he was and treated him like he is before it is just a bit odd to now know for certain.

Dutchoma Sat 12-Jan-13 13:24:00

I didn't know you had it in you Mary. Glad you are feeling better.

MaryBS Sat 12-Jan-13 14:34:46


mhd What about next Friday afternoon?

Praying for everyone!

I'm organising our church New Year party tonight with games for old and young. Lots of people I've recently meet through DD1 at school are coming, they aren't church related so hoping they'll enjoy themselves!

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sat 12-Jan-13 16:15:32

Yes Meant what bes said, rather than trains!

bes I hope it goes ok at your Mum.

Nights are going ok but I'm shattered. So glad it's my last one tonight and boss has agreed I don't need to do any more!

Hi All. Catching up on the thread has made me smile. I'd appreciate some prayers this morning. I've just had two days of no nausea or sickness and felt great. Then I started to get a cold to go with my cough last night. I was sick first thing and gave in and took some anti-sickness because I knew it would continue having tried some breakfast. I also have an itchy rash starting on my tummy - wierd viral thing, I guess. Anyway, DH is on placement this morning so I just need to get through to nap time when the girls will watch TV while I nap on the sofa and DS naps upstairs.

jan2013 Sun 13-Jan-13 09:07:28

Room thinking of you today... hope you feel better soon and can get through this. perhaps putting on some relaxing music might help everything feel a bit better until nap time, i hope it goes in quickly for you.

im not going to church this morning. dh is picking up dd and i just can't face all the effort and then all the questions about where is dd and how are things with dh and me. sigh. just want a quiet day with the Lord, know what i mean?

Totally know what you mean. Do you know if there is a church service on TV? I feel like I'm missing out a bit.

jan2013 Sun 13-Jan-13 09:45:47

i watch my service online at 11.. it is excellent, if you would like the details then pm me smile

Kaykat Sun 13-Jan-13 10:19:45

Hi Room, praying about the sickness and the cold, and Jan for a peaceful day.

I would like to go to church today, if I do it will be only the second time this year. I'm too late for morning services so would have to be an evening one. I will need to persuade DS who is always very anti.

The reason I am too late for the morning services - DS told me in a very mature sort of conversation that he wants me to deal with bedtime the same as his dad, ie just go to bed myself and leave DS awake playing computer games. He said he will act responsibly and get himself to bed at a reasonable time. I agreed to give it a try as he was sounding so grown up and sensible.

Well guess what, I couldn't get to sleep of course knowing he wasn't in bed and at 1am had to go and insist he get to sleep, or was it 2am? It's all a bit of a blur.

DS talks about me arguing with him a lot, we don't really it's just getting him to bed and getting him up in the mornings which are the main problem and I think in his mind these things are a huge issue as they are the main cause of conflict between the two of us. Prayers for this plus the church thing would be great.

Oh and H still not here, yay.

Kaykat Sun 13-Jan-13 10:21:02

Oops just realised it is a new year, so if i get to church it will be the first time this year!

Tuo Sun 13-Jan-13 22:02:13

Praying for all. Hope you had a good quiet day, Jan, and that you are feeling better today, Room.

Kay, how old is your DS? Can you do some kind of compromise, e.g. let him stay up as late as he likes on a Friday night and until a time that you agree which might be later than normal, but not 'just whenever' on a Saturday, on the understanding that you'd like to try to get up for church on a Sunday. If he's really being mature about this, then he will understand deep down that it's for his own good. (And it does without saying that your H is being totally unhelpful and manipulative in letting him do whatever he likes... but you know that, of course!) FWIW, my dd1 is 12 and turns her light out at 9.30 most nights, though I don't mind if she's a bit later on Fridays and Saturdays. I'm also quite against screens (computers, TVs, DVDs, whatever) in bedrooms, because I think that it does make it hard to step away from them and go to bed. But I am quite old-fashioned about these things, I know.

Is your DS old enough for you to leave him at home while you go to church? If you want to go and it's a battle with him, I'd be tempted to let him stay at home. I'd like my dd1 to come with me and dd2, but she resists quite vehemently, and I have come to the conclusion that trying to cajole her is more likely to put her off than to persuade her. Admittedly it's made a lot easier for me by the fact that she can just stay at home with my (atheist) DH.

Anyway, it's so good to hear you sounding more positive. It's amazing the difference in your persona, even just 'reading you' on a computer screen, between the days when your H is around and those when he isn't. Praying that he stays away and out of your life, and stops messing things up with DS.

Tuo Sun 13-Jan-13 22:03:38

goes without saying, not 'does'... Tut!

Prayers of praise and thanksgiving here! smile today was the first time in a long long time we had a female priest presiding the Eucharist! Such a positive experience!
Our post for priest-in-charge is being advertised, so prayers please that the right person feels called to our parish!


Can you pray for me? I'm starting to feel paranoid that two of the girls at work do not like me much. It's a small office too. They're quite clicky, lots of gossiping/ giggling/ sneaking off to chat together alone etc. There's more but I won't go into it.

It's hard to tell what's paranoia or my perception and what's reality. But it's really getting to me now. I need peace sad

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 13-Jan-13 22:35:37

Praying Mome! Tricky situation, I've had similar at work myself in the past.

I am turning round my night shifts today. Feeling a bit rough bit happily they will not be giving me any more before my mat leave! smile

Tuo Sun 13-Jan-13 22:42:29

Praying Momey. That's a horrible feeling, even if it's not actually true that they don't like you... I hope you can resolve it and feel more at peace.

Faith - rest up... I'm glad that was your last night shift.

Blue - that sounds great. Praying for someone special to be called to your parish.

Kaykat Sun 13-Jan-13 23:01:26

That's horrible Mome I've had similar at work too in the past, really hope it resolves.

Hi Tuo, I've been trying something along those lines, later bedtime at the weekends and keep explaining its only to keep him healthy as he needs a lot of sleep at his age. A bit better tonight, hopefully I'm slowly getting through. He is 13, but quite immature so I don't tend to leave him longer than half an hour.

I didn't get to church unfortunately, homework sort of took over and took longer than expected. I will get there in the end, and other things I want to do and for some reason found very difficult to do whilst being married, and now childcare issues, but it will be something to keep my spirits up if DS ends up spending days with his dad, I can do some of the things I've been struggling to do for years.

GingerCurl Mon 14-Jan-13 01:10:40

Kay, does your DS play games online that keeps him up all night. Dsis and DBilL had to set their internet up so that it automatically switches off at, say, 11 pm or their 14 yo would sit up all night playing games with his friends. Especially at the weekends. They didn't tell him what they'd done. He just came to them one evening saying, "Something's up with the internet. It's not working." and went then went to bed. The setting is still in force. If Dsis and her husband want to access internet, they can but they have to logon especially. Perhaps you could do something similar?

DS has come down with a stomach bug this evening so he'll be home for at least a couple of days from school. I really can't afford all these rotten colds and bugs at the moment and looking after an ill child. I HAVE to finish my thesis.

Dutchoma Mon 14-Jan-13 11:10:46

Mome I would ignore as much as possible, but speak to the boss when something tangible happens.
Kay, that seems a wonderful idea, a computer that switches itself off at a given time. What he does when he is with his dad is another matter.
Ginger, that is quite annoying, prayers that you will still find time to work on your thesis.
Blue praying for the right vicar to come along soon.

We had a nice day yesterday, children were a bit 'challenging' at times, especially for Bob, who can't bear to hear them squabbling, but on the whole a success. And I did get my pictures.

MaryBS Mon 14-Jan-13 12:12:02

Mome, that doesn't sound right, I've been in that situation. Are there any others in the office besides you and these girls?

Just wanted to share this on fruits of the spirit, its lovely:

MadHairDay Mon 14-Jan-13 12:18:25

Blue that is lovely! Praying for the right person. We are around Friday afternoon, what sort of time? smile

Ginger - hello! Hope you feel better soon and can get the thesis done.

Kay, so glad you got some respite over the weekend, you sound so much happier. Agree re the computer, we've put similar safeguards on our dcs computer, though it is downstairs (another old fashioned family here!) so they probably wouldn't dare come down and use it grin

Mome, oh that's horrible. Praying that things will resolve and you'll feel happier.

Oma, so glad you had a good day yesterday.

Carrying on here - definitely a bit better again. If the pain would ease I'd be much more full of the joys. I'm going to try walking outside very soon smile

jan2013 Mon 14-Jan-13 12:43:58

hey...would really appreciate prayer for tomorrow pastor coming to visit. need him to understand why ive done what ive done and to feel supported and for me to say the right things

Hi All. Thanks for any prayers said yesterday. We managed to make it to nap time without disaster. Today DH has gone to college saying that he is going to submit his essay today no matter what smile I managed some time out in the snow with DD2 and DS through sheer obstinance! Looking forward to having a nap in a mo.

Jan, please remember that it is not your pastor's place to judge you. You do not have to justify yourself to anyone other than God. Are you sure that the pastor isn't coming to offer support and see if you need help?

Kaykat Mon 14-Jan-13 16:29:09

Hi Ginger, yes the internet is part of the problem and that's good advice but H controls the Internet access and keeps the password secret probably so he can cut us off if the whim takes him, like he has in the past, grrrr.

jan2013 Mon 14-Jan-13 16:31:19

i feel the pastor won't take sides. its not that i want him to 'take sides' as such, but i feel i need to be understood that it was the right action for me to take, but i know that my church holds the view that separation is the wrong thing to do unless theres an affair. im very sensitive to what people think - but yes he is coming to help me

Your Pastor needs to read 'Not Under Bondage' by Barbara Roberts.

He needs to be educated angry

mhd can do Friday! smile will have to wait till DH gets home from work so I can have the car to come over! So between 4 and 5pm ish...

Praying for everyone

One girl works right beside me, but doesn't seem to have much to do hmm The other one is shop based but walks in and chats to her a lot and they wander off together. The shop based one has seemed very off with me lately and is the one that I feel has instigated everything. It is a horrid feeling. My boss is in the same room but is often with customers, at auctions, or delivering to ROH or similar. The other staff are in the workshop. I do worry I'm imagining things now but she has been very off with me lately. She wasn't in today (unexpected) it was so nice. Please pray tomorrow is a good day too.

I'm a bit busy right now, I'm volunteering for too many things. But I'm lurking.

Jan if your pastor can't support you, you may need to pray to God about a new Church, even though you really love your current one. There's not much worse than feeling judged and unaccepted. Divorce is hard enough already, you need support around you. Don't be afraid to say 'I'll think about it', or 'I need time to consider what you've said.' Don't answer him on the spot. You don't have to iyswim? Then you can go away, think, do some reading etc and go back to him. I suspect your whole situation will be challenging to him, if he's never met someone in your situation before.

I do find it hard on the divorce course I help on, when women come along and they say things like 'I've been unhappy for years but I finally got the evidence he was cheating, so I could divorce him'. It always turns out that their pastor has encouraged them to stay together and that adultery is the only reason for divorce and often these women were in abusive relationships and extremely unhappy. I value marriage, I do consider it a life long commitment before God but I don't believe our God would ever want a woman to stay in an unhappy and abusive marriage and it makes me cross when Pastors think a Marriage Course will fix their problems. It won't if it's abusive.

jan2013 Tue 15-Jan-13 10:19:13

hi Mome. i listened to the sermon Bes sent and it was good although a lot in there for my brain to digest. it IS hard. the pastors have met people like me - our church is massive. our pastors have been offered free christian training on the subject of DV and have refused. this is what i find the most difficult. their way or no way. they still have these views - but they are very kind and understanding (but i feel htey are kind and understanding towards 'failures! if you see what i mean, which is not really how i want to be viewed)

im so nervous. sitting here waiting.

MaryBS Tue 15-Jan-13 10:29:24

Prayers jan xx

MadHairDay Tue 15-Jan-13 13:02:48

Jan, I am praying too. I totally agree with what Mome said about our God not being a God who would be forcing women to stay in abusive marriages sad Not my experience of God at all. I too believe in marriage as a lifelong commitment but each side needs to be showing commitment as the bible set out - ie the man loving the woman as Christ loved the church. Clearly abusing someone is not even trying to do this. I hope your talk with the pastor is ok.

Blue, great, if you're sure that's OK, that would be lovely! DD will play with your dds, she loves young children smile

Tuo Tue 15-Jan-13 13:10:45

Also praying Jan. I hope that you get the support that you need, but if you don't I think you need to think carefully about what Mome has said. Maybe that church is just not the place for you right now, when what you need is love and support and not judgement. Loads of love and support from here, anyway.

jan2013 Tue 15-Jan-13 13:18:05

hi thanks so much for support. dd going to wake in a sec...

pastor was lovely. he always is really nice, but he is aiming for us to get back together. i said i had a mediation appt next week (aimed at getting contact sorted) and he said that would start communication between us which had to be a good thing and hopefully this would change things. he still hopes that dh will change, and that ultimately we will get back together. but he does recognise that dh has a problem and he does see that im in a difficult situation because of everything. he did come across very kind and supportive. but still, i don't think they really 'get' emotional abuse. tbh i don't think people do unless they have been through it or saw someone close to go through it.

mhd yay! Sounds perfect! Looking forward to it, has been way too long!

Kaykat Tue 15-Jan-13 18:12:58

An answer to prayer today. My DS has been struggling with his drama lessons and felt totally unable to act out the rather grim things he was being asked to do but was worried about getting a detention for refusing to participate. I suggested he say a prayer that he would have the courage to do it. He came out of school and said that he actually found the courage to do it and on stage too. He was very pleased. He had mentioned to day before that his prayer for snow was answered so I thought it a good opportunity to suggest he pray about this too.

Dutchoma Tue 15-Jan-13 20:10:23

God is very good. I asked that it wouldn't snow on Sunday so that dd could get home safely with the children and that prayer was answered too.
Glad you ds found some comfort in prayer.

jan2013 Tue 15-Jan-13 20:18:12

its lovely to hear the praise reports. we have so many requests but its so great to praise and thank God for answered prayers... God is answering my prayers about dd as well as she is starting to go down to sleep a bit better at night at a more reasonable hour. God is so good smile

CharlotteCollinsislost Tue 15-Jan-13 21:28:07

Glad to hear that, jan.

I am seeing frequent glimpses of God, usually as a kind and gentle response to an unspoken thought. For example, I was driving to school one afternoon feeling I didn't really belong in this little community and (as I was late blush) there were about 20 parents and kids walking down the road already. Every single one of them smiled and waved at me as I drove past. It was so OTT, like a film rather than real life, that I suddenly felt rather giggly!

That thing some people believe about adultery being the only acceptable reason for divorce and not abuse. It's a bit over-valuing the importance of sex, isn't it? "God wants you to stay through all sort of violence, but unfaithfulness? A whole different kettle of fish!" It's ridiculous! Am I alone in thinking that only a male-led church could've come up with this twisting of God's purposes?

blackeyedsusan Tue 15-Jan-13 21:51:16

ermmm <thinks> no...

Day was good at work. Thank you for prayers.

I'm thinking about talking to my GP about DS. He's still struggling at School so much and perhaps I need to consider getting him assessed. I've been delaying it and delaying it but something came to a head today and I keep thinking that the only way to get him the support he needs at School is doing this. In fact I think they upset him far more by treating him like the other children. It doesn't work. He needs things explaining to him in a way they don't. He doesn't cope well in busy, loud environments, he needs his routine and I have to warn him if things will be different. He needs a lot of 1:1 and they cannot provide it. It's getting to the stage where he believes he's 'bad' and on Christmas Eve cried as he thought he wouldn't get a stocking as he's too naughty sad

The teacher is still doing the sticker chart everyday and if he doesn't get all the stickers, he is in bits. It's so much pressure and I don't think he walks into School everyday and goes 'right, let's see how naughty I can be today' or anything like that. He genuinely struggles and it's not getting better. Especially now the second influx of Children has begun and his class has gone from 13 to 25 kids.

Dutchoma Wed 16-Jan-13 07:38:11

Once you get him assessed you will know how best to help him. I'm sure BES will say the same, whichever way the cookie crumbles.
Prayers for courage and faith.
And no, Charlotte you are not wrong in thinking that. I do so wish that men would read all of Ephesians 5 and not stop at v22 and say "Ha, I knew it, she should submit to me".

blackeyedsusan Wed 16-Jan-13 07:52:38

Once you get him assessed you will know how best to help him... grin

tis true. they will probably ask you to go on a parenting course befroe they do much though... book one in if you can to cross off one of the stages first. or go with a list of strategies you are using and still not working.

do some googling to look for specific concerns. make a list to take to the gp...

Dutchoma Wed 16-Jan-13 09:15:03


MadHairDay Wed 16-Jan-13 09:16:22

Totally, Oma! Many seem to completely ignore the part about loving wives as Christ loved the Church!! hmm

Charlotte, so pleased about your glimpses of God. How lovely! I love it when God does that. It does make you feel all giggly! You deserve some joy, praying for more smile

Mome, yes, it does sound like it would be good to get him assessed. It has made such a difference to dd getting a dx of dyspraxia, even just with teachers knowing about it and allowing for it. Sounds like your ds may need that bit extra help. smile

Great to hear your asnwer to prayer too Kaykat!

Blue, looking forward to Friday smile

Feeling stronger again today - it's lovely to get up and not feel so much pain and also that there is enough air, finally. Another huge answer to prayer. I blogged about the whole thing yesterday and it was good to get it out. Feel a bit freed now. Praise God from who all blessings flow...

Mary, how are you feeling now?

jan2013 Wed 16-Jan-13 10:40:46

glad you feeling better mhd

hope work goes well today Mome

God answered prayer about getting DD down to sleep last inght - but she woke around 11ish and that was her till 6. totally shattered...feel a bit down about it all

CharlotteCollinsislost Wed 16-Jan-13 11:11:58

What, mhd, you mean Christ doesn't yell at the church and make it feel insignificant? shock

Jan, that sounds awful. I'd've been in a right state by about 2am. brew <- strong coffee

blackeyedsusan Wed 16-Jan-13 11:14:32

phew... I have shovelled the muck out the car... most of a packet of crushed biscuit crumbs was on the mat (thankyou God)... so they have been tipped in the bin. the cardoes not look respectable... it has ceased to be a cess pit though. got to do something about the wet bit in the car though. somone weed last night and it i soaking wet still. it will be wet for days in this weather.

also I have found my hat! a major relief in this weather and an answerr to prayer.

i am struggling. the "anniversary" was yesterday so things can start improving now. little things are insurmountable though. I need to get on with housework but am going to eat breakfast and catch up on some sleep first.

I have also found dd's reading folder. another answer to prayer.

MadHairDay Wed 16-Jan-13 12:21:13

Oh Jan, you must be shattered, you poor thing. Praying for a better night tonight.

I know Charlotte - the way Christ loves the church doesn't appear to be undermining and belittling. Quite the opposite, in fact, which some men would do well to remember, it seems - praying for all on this thread with difficult relationships/emotional abuse sad

GingerCurl Wed 16-Jan-13 12:55:55

could to with prayers please. DH and I seem to be arguing most of the time at the moment. sad it is tough.

MadHairDay Wed 16-Jan-13 13:06:32

Prayers, Ginger, sorry to hear that - is this just recently?

GingerCurl Wed 16-Jan-13 13:36:01

It's been going on for a while but in waves. Dh is not good at arguing in a "fair" way and often resorts to nasty personal attacks, which makes me just back down, drop it or just not even bother bringing it up as trying to discuss doesn't turn into something constructive. And so I end up feeling sad.

GingerCurl Wed 16-Jan-13 13:37:10

I guess we're just not on the same page very much these days.

Not feeling great but I had to say Gingercurl I've been there and done that as DO will be able to testify. It wasn't quick or easy to return from that point but we totally turned our marriage around (getting enough sleep also made a huge difference!). Have you done the marriage course? Definitely get booked on one ASAP if you can. It will not solve your problems but it will give you the tools to give your marriage the best chance of recovery. The hard work is up to both of you, even if he is in the wrong, I'm afraid. As long as this isn't turning into an abusive marriage, I'm told it's easier to fight for a marriage than get divorced. I'd highly recommend reading the Five Love Languages and Loving Against the Odds. Also, there is a film called Fireproof that may help. You can get it on Eden. It's a Christian film about a marriage brought back from the brink when only one partner initially could be bothered. It will make you cry but I would recommend you give it a go. I'm sure that I should know this but I'm feeling terrible - is your DH a Christian? Praying for you both.

MaryBS Wed 16-Jan-13 15:07:10

Another marriage to pray for please, please pray for friends of mine, where stresses of finances and health have caused intolerable pressures on their marriage, and it looks like they will now split up sad

Still not feeling 100% here. Felt obliged to go to a PCC meeting last night where I really struggled with some of the passive aggressive attitudes expressed there. I couldn't help thinking "whats the point of me preaching of the love of God when you don't pay a bit of attention to me?". Argh.

jan2013 Wed 16-Jan-13 15:19:22

so sorry ginger it is awful when theres constant arguments.

i watched Fireproof it was excellent. i got it for us both to watch, but i left him the week i got it and there wasn't time so i watched it on my own lol.

day getting worse here... dh now lying and saying i put hole in the door instead of him. he wants his house deposit. im so worn out. he also has me signed into an 18 month bt expensive contract. the lying about the things that happened has really upset me and makes me want to get a quick divorce but i wouldnt do that.

can't believe he is taking the house deposit - his dd lives here!

Is he entitled to the deposit? Doesn't he have a financial obligation to keep a roof over his DD's head? I don't know how it works but I know a friend whose ex-h had to keep paying the mortgage because of the children.

Praying, Mary. You have been obedient and preached as God called you to do. It is not your responsibility to ensure that every person acts on what they hear even if it feels like you wasted your time when they don't. Don't take it personally. We all will have to answer to God and you have done what He asked of you. They may have a harder time justifying their actions...

Praying for everyone in need!

mhd if this snowstorm is going to hit us on Friday, we'll have to postpone as I doing like driving in snow! We'll see on Friday, I'll text to confirm!

jan2013 Wed 16-Jan-13 15:46:22

he doesnt have to pay anything as he is a full time student. i didn't think he would ask for it back, especially since he damaged the property and since his dd lives here

Dutchoma Wed 16-Jan-13 16:04:57

Jan you need to go back to the CAB or your solicitor if you can do that without it costing too much.
Yes, I remember your marriage difficulties Littleone and am very pleased that you have both managed to turn things round

We had answer to prayer today as Bob went to the new day centre for the first time today and seemed perfectly alright when I dropped in at lunchtime. (Was asked to do so if possible, I wasn't a 'helicopter wife'). He is home now, absolutely shattered and in bed, but even if he doesn't get up again today he sas managed a full day there.

Praying for the wife and two young daughters of Capt Pete Barnes, the helicopter pilot in this morning's tragic accident. I can't bear to think how they must be feeling. I hope that the media leaves them alone. It's staggering to think just how capable and experienced he was and yet this happened during a normal working day for him. But for the grace of God, go I...

Dutchoma Wed 16-Jan-13 17:00:01

Joining you in prayer for that family Littleone. I've not heard much about it as we were so busy this morning.

MadHairDay Wed 16-Jan-13 18:45:16

Oh yes Room, praying for them sad

Jan, that's terrible, can't believe he is asking for that. I really would look into the legal position, I have no idea but would have thought even though he is a student he cannot put his dd's home in jeapoardy? I'm not sure at all. So sorry this is going on.

Praying for you Ginger and second the Marriage Course, we did it around 10 years ago and still use the suggestions, it's great.

Mary, praying for your friends and praying for you that tonight will be unexpectedly positive. I know exactly what you mean by the passive aggression that goes on in PCC meetings. Is this really the body of Christ? It makes you weep sometimes doesn't it sad Anyway, praying for extra grace for you for tonight.

Great answer to prayer Oma, let's keep praying that he will be able to spend time there happily.

I'm not sure he can do that. Wikivorce is very good. Post on there. Lots of retired lawyers and similar, who offer advice for free x

GingerCurl Wed 16-Jan-13 19:54:34

We did a marriage course run by Relate when we were planning our wedding twelve years shock or so ago. Are you referring to a particular one? It was supposed to be three sessions but for some reason it was condensed into one. I think it was because it was difficult to get people to attend all three. Dh is atheist, but not anti-religion. atheist agnostic is probably the correct term.

Praying for everyone on here and lurking more than I should.

Kaykat Wed 16-Jan-13 19:57:37

Last nights bedtime was bad, 1 1/2 hours later than I wanted and a massive tantrum. But he was sorry afterwards and has guaranteed to go to bed at 10 tonight. I would prefer 9.30 but will happily settle for 10 right now.

I am so thankful that at the moment my only problem is a bit of teenage tantrum and H has not shown his face or contacted me for ages, giving me a nice peaceful time.

Hope you get a good nights sleep tonight too Jan.
Praying for your relationship Ginger.
Mome, hope this is the start of something positive for DS.
Mary, sorry to hear you are feeling a bit low, I bet you are appreciated more than you know.
Go superwoman BES as always.
Glad to hear about the day centre Oma.
Hugs to everyone else.

That was addressed to Jan btw blush

I'm feeling so unhappy at the moment. I alternate between being cross or wanting to cry. Everything is an effort right now. The kids are driving me nuts at times and it's hard to keep my cool sad

I'm going to try and go to bed with a book shortly and see if that helps sad

I may need to go back to the GP at this rate. I've been on ADs before but I have been off them for a year, but I feel like I'm sinking back into it again sad Maybe I should buy some St Johns Wort and try that for now?

Ginger I'm talking about the HTB marriage course. There's info online. I know a number of couples who are one half Christian and one half atheist who have done the course quite happily even though it's a Christian course. And there is the benefit that most places lay on a two course candlelit meal with wine while you do the course to help set a positive mood.

blackeyedsusan Wed 16-Jan-13 21:30:18

hugs. mome. it has been a bit cross or cry here recently too. it is beginning to pick up though. school have an ofsted... tomorrow.

amberlight Wed 16-Jan-13 21:48:45

Prayers continuing

Tuo Thu 17-Jan-13 01:52:14

Prayers for all... for those struggling in their relationships with partners, children, and colleagues; for those who are ill; for those who are sad; for those, by contrast, who have reason to be glad. Prayers especially tonight for those who mourn.

Time for me to roll out my old prayer-thread late-night favourite c/o St Augustine:

"Watch, dear Lord, with those who wake, or watch, or weep tonight, and let your angels protect those who sleep. Tend the sick. Refresh the weary. Sustain the dying. Calm the suffering. Pity the distressed.

We ask this for the sake of your love. Amen."

Dutchoma Thu 17-Jan-13 10:41:01

That is such a lovely prayer TUO even though I read it this morning.

MadHairDay Thu 17-Jan-13 12:01:42

It is a lovely prayer. Praying for a better day for those who had a bad day yesterday.

God is good. It doesn't always feel like it, but God never changes. God holds you in God's everlasting arms. Praying that you all experience something of this today.

blackeyedsusan Thu 17-Jan-13 12:46:21

the car passed the mot!

got to get the brakes done soon though.. (wednesday.. you can all shout at me to rremind me. )

blackeyedsusan Thu 17-Jan-13 12:55:08

please pray I find the insurance certificate... to get the tax disc...

jan2013 Thu 17-Jan-13 13:31:38

thanks for the lovely thoughts and prayers posted on here. thinking of those you are struggling, especially mome and bes today. hard to see good perspective when things feel so hard at times but may the anchor hold

Can you buy it online BES? Then you do not need to produce it at all x

Although I am praying it turns up too!

blackeyedsusan Thu 17-Jan-13 14:59:41

ooo sneaky mome...

MadHairDay Thu 17-Jan-13 15:02:22

I posted this song on my blog yesterday and thought I'd post it here. Praying that you will all know that you can lean on the everlasting arms

Praying for the situation in Algeria sad

blackeyedsusan Thu 17-Jan-13 21:17:46

snow. ofsted. welly walk. chairs tossed around the classroom at hometime. <sigh>

DS has had to be man handled out of the classroom by my childminder several times this week at home time blush sad

blackeyedsusan Fri 18-Jan-13 07:48:08

that is how ds was last year at nursery. I suggest that if you have concerns then you start the process off now. it can take a while and if they don't think there is a problem, it won't do any hrm to hve tried

MadHairDay Fri 18-Jan-13 08:45:29

Morning all

Blue - looks like the snow is getting worse today, so shall we sort out another time for you to come over - that time of day will be a mare with traffic in the snow I imagine. Send me a text - I'm signing off for the day (I try to be computer free on our day off) grin

God bless you all.

Lost you off my "threads I am on" list. shows how long ago I posted. blush Things not been great and I have gone a bit into a "head in sand" mode and not wanted to communicate with anyone. I have been reading and praying for you all, though as I read the thread each day. I will be back......

Darling ladies. I can't sleep, came on here to request prayers for my little Beatrice -- and there she is in the OP! Thank you all so very much!

She's had 2 rounds of chemo so far. It's going pretty well. She is tolerating it ok. 2 more rounds then surgery end Feb.

She's had to have a blood transfusion but that perked her up a lot. Otherwise she is up and down, some perky days and some clingy ones. She is just learning to kiss and say Mama <melt>.

Thank you again, it makes such a difference.

Dutchoma Sat 19-Jan-13 11:50:38

Oh sweetheartBeatrice's mummy, thank you for posting. Praying that all will continue to go well.

PA, look forward to getting your next prayer update. Praying for you in the meantime

MadHairDay Sat 19-Jan-13 12:28:49

PA, certainly keeping you in prayers.

Beatrice's mum, we do think of you a lot, how lovely about her learning to say mummy. smile

Happy snowy weekend everyone!

amberlight Sat 19-Jan-13 17:14:29

Praying through...

jan2013 Sat 19-Jan-13 18:34:54

praying as well for the lovely little Beatrice God has her safe in his hands

jan2013 Sun 20-Jan-13 08:48:41

its snowing outside... previously it had been snowfree, just wet. to be honest im really glad, as i have an excuse not to go to church. i can just have a quiet morning in, with dd, not have to get ready and out. im so tired.... she hasn't been sleeping during the night and im at my wits end... going to ring hv tomorrow. i feel guilty about feeling like this about church. ive no motivation! any one else in today? ill be thinking of you also, the Lord is with us too, even at home!

It's snowed here again today. I didn't go to Church either. I have my moments of being too tired and staying home. I didn't want to drive in the snow today though, it hasn't melted from Friday either. ((hugs))

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 20-Jan-13 19:59:39

Nice to have you pop in Beatrice'sMummy. Contuining to pray...against side effects of the chemo and that she's fighting fit for the surgery next month. Most of all for God's hand to be on the situation and for his strength for all of you.

We missed church today too, basically because I was exhausted. Nights last weekend then 4 days in work this week with split days off! Back in tomorrow and feeling shattered already - prayers for energy would be great!

Praying as I read...

blackeyedsusan Sun 20-Jan-13 20:17:49

34 local schools closed... but not ours. we drive past 3 of the closed ones

cloutiedumpling Sun 20-Jan-13 20:31:43

Lurking and praying, praying and lurking.

It is great to hear how God has been moving in your lives recently. God is awesome!

Kaykat Sun 20-Jan-13 22:39:08

Praying for little Beatrice, her mum and her family.

Intersting weekend, H has moved out. He came for a day to see DS and was reasonably pleasant although seemed more interested to see me than DS. I don't think it will be practical for DS to go to his new place and I don't think H wants that either. Thank you all for your prayers, I am getting answers, praise God.

Jan, praying for your DDs sleep situation, being deprived of sleep really gets you down. I hope the HV has some helpful suggestions.

Hello lovely ladies. Could I please ask for pray for a very practical thing......for the heating to be sorted for my girls back home. They have had no heating all winter and the house is huge and freezing.

One of the main reasons I have been fed up recently is because before we left SO MANY people from our church back there said "if there is a problem, don't worry, I will sort it", " Get the girls to call me and I will help them out." But when it comes down to it, nothing, nobody, not one person has done anything!! I am so upset with them all and feel so bad for my girls. There are plumbers in the church, when we were at home they have come and sorted out any heating problems, but now nobody will do anything. I am not asking for them to do it for free, we will pay. I just want the heating to be working for them. It is severely hindering DD3's long term illness and I am sure it is not helping DD1's depression to be living in a freezing house.
I feel as if the church has forgotten us. They don't care. I know I am feeling bitter and resentful when I read what a wonderful service they had this morning and how spirit filled it all was. I feel like screaming at them all!!! Please pray for my freezing cold girls. <rant over>

Tuo Mon 21-Jan-13 02:07:41

Oh, it's so late... I must sleep, but have paused to read and pray and am thinking of you all, and especially of your dds PA. Praying that they get help with the heating very soon.

blackeyedsusan Mon 21-Jan-13 08:56:41

school is closed. one child cried. one relieved. I will have to make it up to the disapointed child.

Dutchoma Mon 21-Jan-13 10:18:38

Good grief TUO that was late.

BES at least you didn't have to struggle past three closed schools only to find that your was closed too after all. The school near us is closed and it is very, very quiet. need to go and get a paper and some provisions.

jan2013 Mon 21-Jan-13 10:30:45

Morning all. sorry for those of you having to deal with school changes - any change in routine can be tough with the kids!!

PA I am ever so sorry. No wonder you feel so let down by the church who are supposed to be caring for your family while you are doing Gods work...they should be even MORE on the ball while you are away, not less! praying.

dh is going on holiday this week. so he is being all nice to me - bought dd a gift, is sending nice texts etc, kept asking if i was ok (must look awful) probably to try to make up for the fact he is going away, when obviously he isn't supposed to be able to afford it, and i feel that if he had extra time off it would be nice if he had of wanted to spend it with dd. he is taking her a few hours today before he goes. dd still not sleeping and im at breaking point. i know her teeth have been sore which is making it worse, but her 'normal' is still bad.

MadHairDay Mon 21-Jan-13 10:52:15

Oh PA, that is rubbish of the church, can you chase them up on it at all? Send me a phone number and I'll give 'em a rocket if you want. sad Praying it will be sorted soon.

Kay - how are you feeling? Must be so many mixed feelings right glad though that you no longer have to live with this man who has so badly treated you....praying for you, that you will feel Gods love wrapped around you - God who is ever faithful and true and loves you unconditionally.

Both dc are at school, they were very cross about it.

I seem to have abnother chest infection so gone on antibiotics. I don't have the strength to fight so hoping it's mild. It is so far.

Dutchoma Mon 21-Jan-13 11:01:06

MHD praying for you that this infection goes away very quickly. Praying for Jan and PA too, although 'kicks up the 'bum' seem more appropriate.

DoctorAnge Mon 21-Jan-13 14:18:22

Hello. May I ask you to pray for my little girl.
She has had a lot of health problems over the years and has been very unwell all this year. The latest infection could have her hospitalised if it doesn't improve over the next few days. I am praying with everything I have got that she gets better. I am desperate and it would be so kind if you could also remember her in your prayers. Thank you.

Dutchoma Mon 21-Jan-13 14:32:01

Of course, Ange. Prayers for healing and for wisdom for the health care professsionals so that they know how best to deal with your little girl.
How old is she and do you have any other children to care for?

DoctorAnge Mon 21-Jan-13 14:42:45

Thank you. She is 6 and my only one. She has been very unwell since a baby and we all work so hard keeping her well. We are all feeling so lost that we are failing her. She gets very serious infections one after another. If she could just get past this one I have a feeling things will improve..I am feeling very desperate. Thank you for listening..

Kaykat Mon 21-Jan-13 16:14:27

Ange I pray from this day forward your dd will get stronger. Keep battling in prayer, as will we.

Jan did you see the HV?

MHD I really hope the antibiotics work quickly to knock this latest thing on the head. I am happy he has moved out its what I've been asking for months but very perceptive of you to mention mixed feelings. Once every few weeks I find myself really missing him and I know it's totally ridiculous after the way he's treated me but I guess it's natural after many years with someone. These are the times I am vulnerable, especially if he is available and not preoccupied with a current OW. I have to make a very firm decision to follow my head not my heart and it helps to remind myself of everything he has done. I hope that eventually I won't feel this any more and fortunately it's not that often.

GingerCurl Mon 21-Jan-13 18:56:15

Right, I'm chucking it in with this thesis. I've had enough! After a wasted christmas because of my and the family's illness, last week I had to look after Ds for two days because dh had to be away with work for an important meeting. Today has been completely wasted as snow meant that school closed. ~Dh is away all week for work. I tried to find someone who was able to have Ds for a few hours to play today but they had spouses working from home due to the snow and had the ungrateful task of trying to keep their kids away from them while they were trying to work and, understandably, couldn't take on yet another kid. The rules say I can't get an extention beyond March, so this is it. I'm done. I won't be able to make it, so I might as well stop stressing about it and give up. I'm seeing my supervisor tomorrow and will let him know. I am so fed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GingerCurl Mon 21-Jan-13 19:00:27

What I don't understand is why God seemed to so clearly lead me to doing this PhD, why this? I've struggled throughout it. Have prayed for help/guidance, but it just seems all wasted. GRRR.

<rant over. As you were blush >

Dutchoma Mon 21-Jan-13 19:30:48

Oh Ginger, that is such a crying shame. I'm hoping that your supervisor can shine a little bit of light on it. If you still have till March, why not try and carry on till then, it's only a couple of months and if it isn't done, it isn't done.
Nobody of course can give you an answer to the question as to why God led you to do the PhD and now it feels like a total failure. I know one thing though: God never leads you into the desert to leave you there. Even if you can't finish it, there will be lessons to learn. Even if it is: don't give up before you have to.

Tuo Mon 21-Jan-13 20:09:59

Oh, Ginger... I am so sorry to hear that things are so difficult.

How's your relationship with your supervisor? Can you tell him about your difficulties and see what they suggest? Have you thought about a short-term suspension? If you suspend, the clock should stop ticking, as it were, so that your March deadline can still be pushed back. No-one will want you to give up now, after you've done so much and come so close. (And, purely pragmatically, from the institutional point of view, it looks worse for them if you don't finish at all than if you finish late - also in REF terms. And thinking of REF, the cut-off date for that is the end of July, if I remember correctly, so if you could get by with a short suspension you might still make it in time to count as a pre-REF completion!) More to the point, if rules need to be bent to get you through then they can be... How close are you to finishing? If need be you can submit the thing as it is... it might be referred, but that would buy you another 18 months to make the necessary changes to the final version (with the added benefit that the examiners will spell out precisely what they want you to do, so you're not second-guessing what they might be looking for, but responding to their comments).

Please don't give up on this now, though...

PM me if you think there's more I can do to help - I'm happy to talk more about possible ways of making this work if that would be useful.

Meanwhile, know that you are in my prayers.

raininginbaltimore Mon 21-Jan-13 22:40:49

Can I ask for some prayer? I will read back and pray for others.

Our lives have been very difficult for the last 6 months. DD is 5.5months old. She has been really ill, difficult and high maintenance. He has severe reflux and cmpi, and has been admitted to hospital, tube fed, given IV fluids in Oct. she is on lots of meds and her weight is a constant struggle. She is getting better, slowly. During this time I was admitted to a psychiatric mother and baby unit as I have bipolar disorder, for a depressive episode. I am home now, but still feeling delicate some weeks.

And then 2 weeks ago I fell down the stairs and broke my foot. So I am housebound and unable to look after my children (DS is 3). We are broke from paying all sorts of childcare, and I am beginning to feel like I have no more resources left. I am finding faith very hard.

blackeyedsusan Mon 21-Jan-13 23:01:36

sad raining

praying for antibiotics to work for mhd/ang

oma, hoping that i am nearing the end of the dessert soon...

had a bit of a grump about church... one person was pressuring for ds to go to junio church... but he is not ready and even the thought of having to leave me induces major episodes of clinginess and anxiety. last time it was mentioned. the next visit to the room caused him to try and push me out the door then he tried to run up me and cling. the "he goes to school alright".. was particularly galling as he does not and is quite anxious at school.

I do not have the resources to sit for several months while church attendance is intermittant to get him to settle into kids church. I have spent the best pat of the last 6 yeas sat in creche and several years unable to attend housegroups so have run out of resources.

oh and i am suffering frrom bloody hormones again... feeling lonely... need a slap ound the face with a wet fish

oh and I am not sure whether ds has sent an unfinished email to the head...which could be blush and no, I can't find where the sodding sent bit is...

Dutchoma Tue 22-Jan-13 07:25:22

How I thank God that He is still there when I go to bed.

RIB and BES,two posts with so much pain, may you feel that God is with each of you today.
Keep sharing, keep talking here or, if you can, in real life.

Praying also for Ange and her dd.

blackeyedsusan Tue 22-Jan-13 07:51:54

school is open!

Dutchoma Tue 22-Jan-13 08:30:01

That will please some but not other(s)

Tuo Tue 22-Jan-13 09:22:38

Sorry all... wrote a long post to Ginger last night and neglected others...

Praying this morning for:
GingerCurl - for her supervision meeting to go well today and for solutions to be found so that she can finish her PhD;
BES - who has so much to deal with right now, and who deals with it all with such strength and resilience, for that strength and resilience to continue so that things become easier for her;
Raining - for health for her dd, for healing for her foot, for her mental health, and for an improved financial situation;
Ange - for her dd's health to improve;
Kaykat - thanking God for a better home situation and praying for strength to get over the hurt that she and her DS have suffered;
MHD - for her to get well soon;
PA - for her DDs to get help to get the heating fixed, and for greater peace of mind for PA so far away from them;
BabyBeatrice - for the treatment to be successful and for her to tolerate the chemo well;
... and for all who post on this thread, for those who read but don't post, and for those known to us who need our prayers.

MadHairDay Tue 22-Jan-13 14:07:22

Afternoon all

Raining, so sorry to hear of all you have been going through. Praying for you and your dd.

BES, they really should not insist if he is not ready to go sad Hope you have a better day today and feel less lonely - praying for God's strength and comfort.

Ginger - TUO has some good advice, but like the others I'd encourage you to keep going for now and see what the supervisor says - you've worked so very hard. So sorry things are so difficult - you've been in my prayer the past few days and continue to be.

Feel bit better today so thankfully the oral abs kicked in quickly. feel a bit sick on them though sad

amberlight Tue 22-Jan-13 17:34:29

Keeping the prayers going...

GingerCurl Tue 22-Jan-13 18:52:45

Meeting with my supervisor went pretty well. He's convinced me to carry on while he shakes the tree a bit. Feel slightly less despondent this evening, so thank you for your prayers.

Also had a very pleasant surprise today. With the risk of outing myself, I heard my lovely cousin on the radio this morning completely out of the blue. I haven't heard from him for over a year, so it was great just to hear his voice.

Praying for everyone.

Dutchoma Tue 22-Jan-13 18:54:39

Well done Ginger hope your supervisor's tree shaking bears fruit.

blackeyedsusan Tue 22-Jan-13 22:49:06

that is good ginger.

it is supposed to be snowing. hoping school is open tomorrow. e had less than 24 hours notice of a trip as the letters did not go out on frriday.

Thank you so much! Beatrice had a hearing test today to see if the chemo was affecting her hearing (it always does, apparently, mildly or worse) -- her hearing was normal! Thank God!

Back for chemo on Thurs, praying for all your intentions.

Dutchoma Wed 23-Jan-13 09:32:23

Thank God indeed Beatrice'sMummy. Praying that the chemo will go well on Thursay.

DoctorAnge Wed 23-Jan-13 10:42:14

Thank you all for your prayers. My daughter is getting there! You are making a difference to her thank you for praying.

jan2013 Wed 23-Jan-13 10:45:32

oh Ginger does that mean you are famous?! Ginger i feel for you. glad you spoke to your supervisor... i am also trying to do my final year, and with everything going on ive felt like giving up many times... it is so hard, and im nowhere near phd level. keep going! do what you can and God will do the rest.

praying for Beatrice, and for everyone else.

i feel im kind of breaking down at the minute. i just can't cope anymore. i am supposed to be in my placement today, haven't been since Christmas. i just can't do it. i haven't been going to sleep till very late as dd hasn't been going to bed at night. i don't get a minute to myself all day, i can't get anything done and im stressed out wiht everything thats happened with dh and me. today my skin broke out in itchiness all over i took piriton, this has happened a few times when ive been really stressed. i just don't know what to do as i cant cope. i feel ive failed in my marriage, my career and my health. sad

GingerCurl Wed 23-Jan-13 11:25:54

Oh jan, praying for you. And, no, I'm not famous, but my cousin is is quite well-known within his field and has a very specific job which he talked about in the interview. Quite a few people that I know, know that we are related.

Hurray for DrAnge's DD and Beatrice!


blackeyedsusan Wed 23-Jan-13 11:43:44

answer to prayer... insurance certificate found. tax paid!

Dutchoma Wed 23-Jan-13 11:54:29

Praise the Lord and St Anthony

blackeyedsusan Wed 23-Jan-13 12:12:31

off to walk an hour back to the car! that will qualify me for lots of chocolate I think!

Dutchoma Wed 23-Jan-13 15:28:10

Absolutely. Hot chocolate with cream and marshmallows and then chocolate cake or something else with it.

Kaykat Wed 23-Jan-13 17:34:43

Oh Jan you are such a kind and gentle person with so many lovely and wise words for others and you are coping with such difficult circumstances, how can you think you are a failure? Lack of sleep is so horrible. Did you get any advice from the health visitor? Does dd sleep during the day? If so try to get a bit of sleep too and let the housework slide a bit. Could your mum come and help you a bit so you can have a sleep? Sending hugs x

My situation is so much happier now, obviously I have a few niggling worries about how everything will turn out and whether H's current attitude will last but right now I'm content and for the rest I will trust that God has it in his hands. My H thinks he has moved out for his own benefit rather than me kicking him out, so he can have space and not be controlled by me!! But that means he is friendly ATM and doesn't appear to want to cause any trouble with DS who incidentally is also happier as far as I can tell.

jan2013 Wed 23-Jan-13 18:08:39

hi KayKat i have just been in touch with the hv and she is coming to see me next friday, she has given me some tips to help with sleep till then... but its going to mean sleep training (even though its gentle method) which im worried i won't have the energy/motivation for. dd only sleeps around 45 mins during the day. often in the car. thanks for support... i dont' know whats happened to me all i feel like is ive fallen into a rut and can't get out and feel terrible.

im so glad you are doing so much better now and feel content - theres no better thing than the knowledge that God has everything in his control, and so glad ds seems happier too - that will make you more at peace as well.

Kaykat Wed 23-Jan-13 18:18:29

Glad the health visitor is helping you. Does that mean you will have to leave her to cry for a bit? I remember how hard that was but I think it's worth trying whatever she suggests.

DoctorAnge Wed 23-Jan-13 19:26:41

Hello everyone.

Still praying and hoping. I am consumed with worry and anxiety about my girl. I need to feel I have hope for her to have a healthy future. There must be hope.
God bless everyone.

Dutchoma Wed 23-Jan-13 19:54:01

God has her very securely in His sight and His arms. The hardest thing is to trust Him for whatever is to come. We all struggle with that when the future is totally uncertain and bleak. I'm praying that tonight you will sleep peacefully secure in the knowledge that your little girl is secure.

blackeyedsusan Wed 23-Jan-13 20:45:58

whimper... 90 mins+ walking in the snow has had the inevitable consequences. it hurts...

Dutchoma Wed 23-Jan-13 21:36:23

Oh BES ouch,ouch,ouch

Tuo Thu 24-Jan-13 00:16:12

Praying especially for jan tonight. You've come a long way, jan, and have been through a lot. There are bound to be tough times, but God and our prayers are with you, and things will get better.

Praying for DrAnge's little girl, and for Ange herself to be full of hope for her future and joy in her present.

Praying for a restful night for BES. That's a lot of snow walking...!

And praying for all on this thread in all our individual situations, with all our joys and fears and difficulties and hopes and frustrations. It's so good to know that this thread is here, and that we are here for one another.

DS had a dreadful day at School yesterday. He was sent into two different classes for time outs and had complete meltdowns sad It's hard to know what goes on in his little head but if he's handled badly, it makes things worse. I haven't seen the teacher, as the childminder collects him. But can you pray for a helpful conversation with her and that DS isn't anxious about School this morning and has a much much better day? Sometimes a lot he doesn't want to go in.

blackeyedsusan Thu 24-Jan-13 07:33:36

perhaps ask school what the trigger was and what support they are going to give him to ensure that it does not happen again.

ds had a wobbly in school at the end of the day. I did not let him finish going round the benches... he ould not come off so I took him off... with 10 feet we were in time out, but did not manage to catch his arm so i have been whacked around the head a couple of times. ouch. got aa supenanny comment from the caretaker... at least I know that superrnanny does not work with asd children... on authority of his consultant!

MadHairDay Thu 24-Jan-13 12:16:08

Praying for better days for both your dses, BES and mome sad

Jan, especially praying for you today.

I haven't had a chance to speak to her. It was too busy at drop off. But farming him off into another class would've made it all much worse.

Seeing GP on Monday to discuss assessing him.

P.s today was a much better day. Thanks for your prayers x

blackeyedsusan Thu 24-Jan-13 19:19:33

a better day today too. a bit of a wobble this morning.. a couple of half hearted head buts and a light whack on the head with a plastic bottle, but the rest of the day has been better.

Tuo Fri 25-Jan-13 01:44:27

Prayers for Jan, BES and Momey, and for all who visit here.

Please think of me tomorrow. I've got a difficult work situation going on, which I pray can be resolved without any (more) nastiness. Thanks.

blackeyedsusan Fri 25-Jan-13 07:38:58

prayed tuo

jan2013 Fri 25-Jan-13 08:48:57

also praying.

things still same.... was in awful place before i had dd and really worried about going back there

MadHairDay Fri 25-Jan-13 15:35:05

Keeping praying, Jan - we're all holding hands with you here.

Tuo Fri 25-Jan-13 18:49:08

Thank you! I asked for - and got - support...

amberlight Fri 25-Jan-13 20:36:56

Praying through

blackeyedsusan Fri 25-Jan-13 20:37:49

yaay tuo!

i have been out for tea with a friend... smile an answer to prayer!

HavingALittleFaithBaby Fri 25-Jan-13 22:51:46

Evening all. Reading and praying.

Tuo I'm so glad your prayers were answered with genuine support smile

bes praying into all aspects of your life: how is your Mum? Glad tea with a friend has made you smile

I am oh so tired. Work has been manic and the last couple of days I've struggled to cope physically and emotionally. I've ended up doing less hours at the start of the month and more the last two weeks (after a quick turnaround from nights). I don't think I've had two full days off together for three weeks hmm However I am now officially on holiday! grin Over a week off! I'd love some prayer tonight - DH is away for the night. We bought a car from his grandparents and he got the train down to collect the car and drive it back. Too much to do in a day but I'm still a bit nervy about being home alone post-fire (although better than I was). I'm hoping since I'm shattered I'll sleep anyway but prayer would be great, thanks.

Love and blessings to you all x

jan2013 Sat 26-Jan-13 08:43:45

thankful for all the answers to prayer. havingalittlefaithbaby praying for you too you have done amazingly to be working so hard and hopefully will start feeling better once the rest kicks in.

didn't get good sleep last night, but dd went down early and it made a big difference, and i actually am feeling a lot better today than the last few days so thank you so much for praying and support. itl take awhile to get 'on top' again but i feel it is possible again smile

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sat 26-Jan-13 08:47:10

Ah bliss, I slept from 11 to 8.45! Woke once to wee (well I am pregnant). Really pleased because it means I'm moving forward from the fire.

Glad your DD settled quickly Jan. I'm sure it makes a huge difference.

Dutchoma Sat 26-Jan-13 10:16:46

Lots to give thanks for. Praise God that He has His hand on us all.

And the sun is shining!

And I saw a fieldfare in the garden who dug an apple out of the snow and was demolishing it with gusto.

Morning All. I've been praying and lurking but the thread dropped off of my 'threads I'm on' so it's definitely time to post again.

I'm really struggling today. DH is away and I tried to come off of my anti-sickness meds as the GP wanted me to. It hasn't worked. I definitely still have hyperemesis and now I'm even more wiped out whilst trying to look after the 3 DC by myself (all friends busy or ignoring pleas for help and all useful family live too far away). I've turned into angry, shout mummy because I am trying to parent from the sofa and am being ignored <sigh> DS is still in his pj's blush

Having said that, it's lovely coming in here and seeing the prayers of praise and thankfulness. We have so much to be thankful for. I am anticipating being thankful for DS having a nap this afternoon...

Tuo Sat 26-Jan-13 11:21:50

Room - It's lovely to see you, but I'm sorry that things are still so tough. Don't beat yourself up. It will not kill your DS to have a PJ day. Put CBeebies or some suitable DVD on and concentrate on just getting through the day. Praying that it'll get easier for you as the day goes on.

I think I may have successfully bribed all three children to watch a film quietly/sleep while I snooze on the sofa. Please Lord, I really need this and a bit of chocolate bribery isn't so bad, is it?

Tuo Sat 26-Jan-13 14:48:31

If God had not wanted us to bribe our children with chocolate, He would not have created the cocoa bean. winkgrin

Hope you have a restful afternoon, Room.

Dutchoma Sat 26-Jan-13 14:56:03

Littleone bribing with chocolate? Of course, obvious thing to do. Glad it worked for all three of them. Hope you had some yourself.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sat 26-Jan-13 14:57:02

Whatever gets you through Roomy! smile hope it's a nice afternoon and you can rest.

DoctorAnge Sat 26-Jan-13 15:00:05

Thank you all do much got your prayers for DD. she is getting better!

Thinking and praying for you all.

Grrrrrrr, DVD player stopped working twice so I've had a very interrupted nap. But I've had a nap and mini eggs have been dispensed grin

Now then ladies, please be very honest... AIBU to be annoyed that no-one has responded positively to my request for help over FB today? We are part of a large community of committed Christians and not one of them has come to help. Yes, we have survived but why does life have to be this hard? I know that our children are not the responsibility of our friends and neither am I, but surely as Christians we could be trying a little harder to help each other? If We hadn't moved up here, I know that there are friends who would have helped us today sad

Dutchoma Sat 26-Jan-13 15:40:05

No, you are NBU, but don't judge anyone until ...You may find out at a later date why no-one has come to help, you may not.
But these things are very hard to cope with and I struggle with them myself.

I know it's self-centred and judgemental but I find it particularly hard where we are living. I'm not very good at the whole thing about "do everything in life without complaining".

Anyway, since then I've had someone offer to come and help for a little bit that should get me through to tea time and then we're on the home straight! I am very grateful smile

jan2013 Sat 26-Jan-13 20:31:48

ynbu and God heard and answered for today smile im sorry things are so hard and pray God finds simple ways of helping you like he did today - he has lots of ways to answer our prayers

blackeyedsusan Sat 26-Jan-13 23:27:21

"A bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out. In faithfulness he will bring forth justice;" Isaiah 42. 3

sometimes I find that I have got to the very point of extinction, before he steps in...

I'm trying to work out whether or not to go to church this morning. I really do not feel up to it but the alternative is another day with the DC all stuck inside. DH is due back from his placement by 2pm. I don't know what's worse, staying in with the DC or getting to church while feeling this horrendous...

jan2013 Sun 27-Jan-13 09:21:39

BES thanks for that beautiful scriptures it is so lovely. Jesus is so kind and compassionate and will always bring the sun and light back in to our darkness no matter how bad or long it seems.

Room you have my sympathies, i feel the same about church and i hate the feeling, and then i feel guilty if i don't go, and its too much effort if i do go. dh is taking dd today and i just dont even want to get dressed, and im not in your situation. if you go it will be an effort, but at least you will be around people, they might also help you with them, and it will break up the day for you then you can hopefully relax when dh gets back. if you stay in, its making it through till 2pm.... i totally understand how indecisive this stage can be and pray that whatever you decide to do God will bless you and be with you and support you xoxo

Kaykat Sun 27-Jan-13 10:41:29

BES that's lovely. I feel very much like a bruised reed and also needing justice, although not sure what justice will involve in my case.

So another Sunday, another chance to get to church maybe this evening.

The past two weekends my H has asked to come round for a short time to see DS and has been pleasant. Both times he said its up to me and i can say no or throw him out. Both times he has been quite keen to get back to his new social life where he lives now. But he only really seems to want to see me and pushes his luck trying to get affection. Both times I have woken up on the Saturday morning crying and missing what we used to have and I really fear that this is making me vulnerable. Sorry to moan, I really am very thankful for the answers to all your prayers as I am in a much better place now he has moved out. I just need to get a bit stronger emotionally and not sure how.

MadHairDay Sun 27-Jan-13 11:52:15

Kay, you are being so strong. Of course you feel vulnerable, and with him pushing for you to be affectionate it must feel so very difficult. I can't begin to imagine what it must be like but please be assured of my ongoing prayers for you.

Room, I do hope today is better - so appreciate what you mean by sofa parenting, I do too much of that and it means a lot of getting ignored! There are definitely days where dvds and chocolate are the answer smile

Nice to see you Faith, hope you were ok last night and praying for a lovely restful week for you.

Thanks for prayers here, I really feel I am finally coming out of the fog of recovery now and getting on with life again smile

jan2013 Sun 27-Jan-13 13:47:34

hi guys, so glad you are starting to feel better mhd! and just as the snow is on its way out - good timing smile

Kaykat i am so sorry things are hard and you have woken up in tears... it is so hard. its almost easier just to do a clean break without spending that time together, it really messes with your head... youve been so strong and you can feel the benefits of the separation already by the sound of it, but its a natural process of grieving too that you are going through, grieving for the good relationship that you had hoped for. it takes so much time! hold on to the good, and let God and others comfort you through the bad.

i think you are doing so well to even be able to spend that time with him... i get shaken up just doing the handovers! this morning i went to church in the end, and dh's car couldn't start, so he couldn't get dd. i said i would drop her up after church... noone answered the door so i rapped the letter box. the dog barked, MIL came flying to the door and told me off for rapping the door! tehn starting going on about the dog and just everything, an inch from my face. i was trying to explain that dd needed nappy change and a drink after church and would be ready for a nap soon, but MIL is just so in your face. i felt totally shaken up just by seeing them for one minute never mind spending proper time with them. you are doing amazing!

praying as I read through. Especially for Kaykat, jan, mhd faith and Bes

Just flying in to let you know that i am hopeful that the heating has now been fixed at home. Whooooo!!! Finally!!! We have been here before, but within 24 hours it has packed in again, so prayers that this time it will be long-term please! Such a relief for me!!

Daren't post too much as I know i will lose it all if I am not careful so need to go, but I am still reading and praying daily.

blackeyedsusan Sun 27-Jan-13 15:54:06

ok Jan... so if he can not pick up and they are going to be rude when you drop off... he will have to come up with alterrnative arangements... use the line.. but mil did not want me to... + innocent expression after all, you only have to make dd available fo contact... if he can not organise it and is going to be ude about it, then tough.

easier said than done emotion!

the children have been bouncing around on the sofa cushions on the floor. there haas been no sounds of swearing from downstairs so he must be out.

blackeyedsusan Sun 27-Jan-13 16:41:34

oh and Jan, was going to say "the apple does not fall far from the tree." good job you are bringing up dd to be different!

jan2013 Sun 27-Jan-13 17:19:47

BES its a very strange family. she wouldn't have considered that as rude.. in fact she invited me in straight afterwards and i said sorry i must get on! i just don't like dd being in an atmostphere like that so much... i really don't want her absorbing these traits!

jan2013 Sun 27-Jan-13 17:20:43

they think its normal thats the problem.

ive spend all afternoon sorting dds clothes out and the house is still a mess!

Seeing GP at 9.30 about DS. Please pray they listen if you see this.

I got the referral I needed. Woop!

blackeyedsusan Mon 28-Jan-13 10:16:34

such good news mome!

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 28-Jan-13 10:26:57

Brilliant news Mome! Who have they referred him to?

Dutchoma Mon 28-Jan-13 10:40:32

Good news. Now praying that the referral coms through quickly.

jan2013 Mon 28-Jan-13 14:55:53

thats really good Mome i hope things move forward quickly from here at least the ball is rolling now

Reading and praying. I had some really amazing God moments today but I am now wiped out after a terrible night and days of just having to keep going however bad I feel. I'm really struggling and don't seem to have anyone who truly understands HG+RL does not work. I'm going to bed now. Night All.

Dutchoma Mon 28-Jan-13 19:28:24

Sleep well Littleone

Community paediatrician I think.

It's a long road to seeing what can help DS and if he's diagnosed with anything but this is a good start.

The GP was running 5 mins early when I went in and I made him run late after our long chat. Oops blush

blackeyedsusan Tue 29-Jan-13 07:54:32

fantastic, mome.

I am pleased things are moving in the right direction for you Mome . I hope you soon get the help that you need for him.

An urgent prayer request from here please. DD1 is really not good. Things are getting bad and we are having to think about what we should do. We have some thoughts. Please pray for her, for peace and for her to be calm and feel loved. Please also pray that we do what is right and what will have the best outcome for her. Please pray that someone back at home can reach out to her and help her in the dark place she is in right now. 7,500 miles away seems like an eternity away right now. sad thank you.

Morning All. Selfish, quick post I'm afraid. I had another bad night and feel so ill this morning. Had an argument with DH after he snapped at me through tiredness having been up half the night trying to get stuff done. Not nice but we have cleared the air at least and it seems that he is under pressure from college to pick up the last thing that he hasn't been attending because he's doing the morning school run. I'm not sure what they think the alternative is. I am fed up of being so ill and not having people understand. I pointed out to DH that even he hasn't tried to read up on HG and is pretty ignorant himself blush Anyway, today is yet another day to try and survive...

Praying PA

Blimey, that was quick. Room. Prayers for you and DH too. It is so hard when there are so many stresses. Prayers for a better day for you both today.

Dutchoma Tue 29-Jan-13 09:37:47

Praying for both PA and Littleone.
Praying for wisdom in dealing with dd1's depression PA.
It occurs to me that both of you in work for the Lord are under tremendous attack. There is no other way to deal with it (not that I know, anyway) than to continually proclaim the Lordship of Jesus.

jan2013 Tue 29-Jan-13 10:15:42

LO its so hard when you are ill and dh is loaded with college stuff - this was the case in my marriage for awhile and it put so much strain on us. its good you have cleared the air. its so hard when people don't understand sad you know that God understands fully, and you don't have to explain yourself to anyone, but sometimes if people knew more they would offer help and support. praying.

praying also for PA and your daughter. i can't imagine how you must feel being so far away when she is struggling, and really pray that God brings the right person to her and comforts her.

im back to college tonight and don't really feel up to it. maybe it will help me move forward though somehow.

FlatsInDagenham Tue 29-Jan-13 10:28:04

Newcomer to this thread here - just wanted to ask for prayers for a couple of people I know in RL.

My colleague, who died yesterday following a long illness, and her devoted husband.

My sil who is fighting incurable cancer. My brother and their young children who will have to face it with her, and later, without her.

Please send them all comfort, peace and the warmth of God's love in their hour of need.

I also offer all my prayers to everyone mentioned on this thread, and I am holding Positive Attitude's DD1 particularly in my thoughts. May God bring you recovery, good health and happiness.

Dutchoma Tue 29-Jan-13 10:39:01

Thank you for sharing those prayer requests with us, FlatsinDagenham Intriguing username. Prayers assured.

FlatsInDagenham Tue 29-Jan-13 11:08:20

Aren't all usernames intriguing Dutch? Just for you I will explain ... I play the drum kit (a very little) and I was taught 'flats in Dagenham' as an intro / fill sequence. If you say it out loud and rhythmically, with an emphasis on the word 'flats' and another emphasis on the 'dag' - so 'FLATS in DAGenham' - you might hear the drum fill it describes!

MadHairDay Tue 29-Jan-13 12:56:42

Welcome Flats and prayers for your colleague's family and for your sil sad

PA, praying for poor dd1, does she have much support here/friends she can talk to etc? Can anyone from church help? So glad the heating is back!

Praying for Room and Jan especially and thankful that mome has the referral.

I'm in a lot of pain as just had womb biopsy as part of a gynae exam, he says 'this is often done with anasthetic, but you're ok aren't you?' hmm - it's only because I have to have a small op so they have to check on it all. Prayers for the op would be appreciated as it is under general so a bit worried as they don't like putting patients with lung disease under general. Sure it will be fine. Thi has tired me out this morning though...I just can't seem to be able to cope with much yet.

blackeyedsusan Tue 29-Jan-13 13:03:05

praying for dd pa

Dutchoma Tue 29-Jan-13 13:27:20

Praying that the pain will soon ease MHD

MHD, that womb pain sounds horrible. Have you spoken to the anaesthetist yet? They are often keen to give you a spinal for gynae ops if you have a history of lung disease.

And, yes, DO. I agree about being under attack. I am very fatigued of it and hoping to go and see the spouses chaplain at college because I just don't feel like I'm managing brilliantly any more.

I had a good cry this morning because I still felt so ill and tired even after 12 hours sleep. Then I dragged myself to toddlers for DS' sake. I met a lovely lady there who understood that I couldn't stand for long. We chatted for ages and hit it off brilliantly. Her DH used to be at college where my DH is now. It turns out that her DS is at school with our DD1. She has just changed her days off so I'm hoping to see her at toddlers next week.

I'm not ignoring other prayer requests - DS just woke up so I have to go...

Dutchoma Tue 29-Jan-13 15:26:59

Oh Littleone, that is very good news. An angel sent from the Lord to comfort you.
Praying for more 'angels' (messengers and messages from God) for all of us.

We had a good appointment with the consultant at the hospice, not that he can do much to help, but it is good to see that somebody is keeping an eye on us.

MadHairDay Tue 29-Jan-13 15:58:39

Ah Room I hope you feel better soon, and glad you met a friend at toddlers smile I've missed something along the way I think, is your dh at vicar college? <you mention a spouses chaplain so wondered>

I've not spoken to the anaesthetist as yet as the doctor has only just booked me for the op, he said that everything would be talked through with me when I come in for the surgery and not to worry about it. I wouldn't mind a spinal at all, had one after I had dd for some postnatal complications and it was fine.

GingerCurl Tue 29-Jan-13 20:14:26

It looks like I might be able to apply for an extension for handing in my thesis. Thank you all for your prayers and moral support. They mean so much.

GingerCurl Tue 29-Jan-13 20:15:26

Oh and am praying and lurking as usual.

Dutchoma Tue 29-Jan-13 20:35:34

Oh well done Gingercurl. Go for it!

blackeyedsusan Tue 29-Jan-13 23:03:50

well done gc

how are you DO?

i went to see dd's teacher recently... she took me seriously, and is going to get other staff to assess her.... so easy... an answer to prayerr!

jan2013 Wed 30-Jan-13 09:24:58

great GC

dd up most of last night messing about....need sleep.

I feel like giving up today. As MHD guessed, DH is at vicar school and we have moved half way up the country for that. Our sending diocese pay for our living needs where we are but we have no income to pay the mortgage on our house in the south. We are in a serious financial situation because we have kept paying the mortgage. Just in case you need catching up, here's the house saga so far...

We accepted 3 offers on the house over 4 months which all fell through, as did a rental agreement (while I was in hospital with HG). We have now accepted an offer that is 10-15k below the value of the house and all appeared OK with the sale. I even discovered that our estate agent has agreed a rental contract on behalf of our buyer which sounded promising. But, our solicitor has heard absolutely nothing back from the buyer's solicitor despite sending a chasing letter. I can't help but feel like we've been mucked around again (and incurred solicitor's fees) by someone who has no intention of buying the house. He was supposedly pushing for a quick sale but his solicitor has had the draft contract for two weeks now and has not been in contact.

I'm afraid that I feel like I have little faith about the house now. It is making me question so many decisions that we have made. And it's not exactly important but it's my 30th on Monday and I wanted to be able to enjoy it without worrying about money. MIL has the DC's overnight on Friday so that we can go out (HG permitting) but there is no way we can go out if the house sale falls through sad

MadHairDay Wed 30-Jan-13 11:55:30

Oh Room - I totally appreciate how difficult it is. The income is just about enough to cover living expenses but nothing apart from that. We sold our house when dh went to college but later on invested the money from the sale into another house as we need somewhere when we retire and as some kind of safety net for me if something goes horribly wrong. Is there any way you can rent your house out, or would that not cover the mortgage? Hope this buyer gets their finger out and gets on with it - sigh, it's such a stressful thing. Is dh in his first year? What college are you at? <you don't have to tell me that, I'm just nosey as we were also at a college 'half way up the country' grin >

Ginger, that is fabulous news about the thesis, I knew God would answer this prayer, you have worked too hard, so glad.

MHD, I'll pm you as I will totally identify myself otherwise. No offence to others but c of e clergy are like the mafia (in as much as everyone knows everyone, not the horses heads or violence!). I'm struggling a little with the idea of living a very public life and never being able to whinge about DH because everyone has him on a pedestal! It's been pointed out that people may put me on a pedestal as well.... ROFL! Just wait until they see my parenting skills...

MadHairDay Wed 30-Jan-13 12:46:32

Yep - totally with you grin I like that about MN, we can have a good moan incognito ...

MadHairDay Wed 30-Jan-13 12:47:02

<well sort of, most people on here know who I am, I'm not very good at keeping RL away> grin

Prayers for everyone. especially "room". I think if you put your head above the pulpit you are bound to have the devil throw hand grenades at you. That's what I feel is happening with us, anyway.

Thank you for your prayers. We have some decisions to make about DD1. One option is for her to come out here to be with us. Can you please pray for guidance for us to do the right thing and not just do a panic reaction. I don't want to make the wrong decision and it all go wrong again for her. She is feeling quite desperate. The church have been aware since August that she was struggling, but have done hardly anything. Someone popped in before christmas with a hamper of goodies for her, which was nice, but other than that no contact at all. Now I have received a message about something from the church and I feel very judged and demeaned. I just want to scream at them that they just don't understand. It was written by a very well meaning person, but they have lived a very "sheltered" life and have managed to bring up 2 perfect Christian children who have never gone off the rails and have never had any problems and I get advise as if they know exactly what it is like to have a 21 year old daughter who is not a Christian who is struggling with God/life and everything else and feels very alone and unloved in the world. hmm

DD3 is moving out of the home tomorrow so please pray that DD1 copes with that ok.

Also today I received a message from my sister to say that my mum has got a lot worse recently - alzheimers. She is thinking that she is just "visiting a hotel" where she is living in the house she has lived in for the past 32 years! she thinks she should be going home to the house that she lived in before that one. She does not recognise any grandchildren now and often does not recognise her children. I dont think she will know who I am when I return in 5 months time. sad I feel as if I have lost my mum, now, too.

On the positive side please give thanks with me for the birth of a baby son to my nephew and his wife. This is my mum's first great grandchild......she would have loved to be able to spoil him and cuddle him. She was always the best mum/nanny anyone could ever have wanted. sad

<waves. to everyone on here and apologies for such a selfish woeful moaning post. blush

Dutchoma Thu 31-Jan-13 10:19:44

You are entitled to your 'moan' PA. Praying for the best solutions to be found. Where is dd3 moving to?

She is moving just a few miles away into the next town over. She had just started looking in preparation for when she is married in June, but this house came up and apparently it is "perfect", so she has moved things forward a few months as regards moving out.
IF Dd1 does come out here this would mean a big empty house that is not really up to scratch for renting - another hurdle we will have to get over somehow!! hmm

jann2013 Thu 31-Jan-13 11:23:10

changed my nickname for 2 secs and someone stole it would u believe it?! lol

PA you are not moaning at all.. we are very glad to be here somewhere that you can share and know people are caring and praying. it sounds things are so hard and especially with your mum not doing so well at the same time. congratulations on the lovely new baby boy! praying that dd will cope with her sister moving out and that something will change for her.... and that God will give clear direction about bringing her out to be with you or not.

room also thinking of you. i know all too well the struggles of growing up in the ministry - im a pastors dd, and there is a huge pressure that others don't understand to be the perfect family, and you have to look for support outside the church. its an amazing work and God has called you as the wife to this role too, and he is going to give you the grace and strength to do it

I also need guidance at the minute. im considering a divorce, and am really confused about it all because all im ever hearing about marriage is to try to save it and make it work no matter what, and divorce would be going against all that. but yet i felt God leading me to be separated in spite of al that, and i need to know the next step... i don't feel i can just wait around for years for him to change. but i don't want to do anything without Gods backing.

PA praying for you all. I think my mum used to be a bit smug until I 'went off the rails' and struggled with life. You are not alone in this parenting challenge. And I bet that the well meaning lady's children aren't that perfect. Either she isn't being very real with you or her children aren't being very real with her. By our very nature, we are not perfect!

Quick update before a school run/ballet... House sale appears to be proceeding with some negotiation over fixtures/fittings/building guarantees. The buyer is pushing for completion on Friday 8th. Not that we've exchanged yet! I am hopeful but I'll believe it when I see it!

Dutchoma Thu 31-Jan-13 16:18:58

Start praising God for an answer to prayer Littleone. 'Cause I'm sure that's what it is.

I don't believe anyone can take your nickname Jan confused Contact mn x

amberlight Thu 31-Jan-13 17:11:40

Jan, it takes two people to make a marriage work - two people who work to respect one another. It's not you who has failed in that respect - it's your dh, from what you've told us. It's not in your power to make it work by yourself either. Don't blame yourself.

Prayers all round.

It's been difficult here, working through more anti-autism hate campaigning against me, but I've been supported by wonderful people who have promised to sort out the person concerned in a suitably stern and professional way. And I've had a really good conference today, teaching 100 people about autism, so God is good.

Kaykat Thu 31-Jan-13 17:31:05

Jan I understand about the confusion, it's a big step and you need to be sure. Do people really think a marriage should be saved no matter what? Have some people you know given you that impression? Some people live in their own bubble I suppose with no experience of abuse and maybe see things in a very black and white sort of way. I also know what you mean about wanting to get things sorted and resolved. Right now I'm pretty happy with my situation but there are so many unknowns about the future, that's where I just have to trust it's in God's hands.

I'm pleased to report that DS is quite delightful now and the house has a happy atmosphere, that's down to me being happier too. H got a bit bullying on the phone and by email and I didn't rise to it, I responded with a friendly tone of voice and he backed down! Couldn't believe it, I wonder if that will work every time? It seems that partying with his new friends is not bringing him happiness except maybe fleetingly for an evening, what a surprise!

PA sorry to hear about your worries, could your DD come for a visit to see how it goes then make a decision after that?

Glad to hear about the house sale Littleone. Am thinking and praying for everyone else, especially the little DDs suffering from illnesses.

MadHairDay Thu 31-Jan-13 18:27:33

PA, I'm so sorry things are so difficult for dd1 and that the church have been sod all use sad Praying that you'll have wisdom about the whole situation and praying very much for her. Good news on your DNephew's new little one. Praying also for your mum, and for comfort for you as you cope with the reality of this happening sad

Room, good news on the house smile Continuing to pray for you.

Amber, do you know what? You are amazing. You inspire me so much - I can't believe people would conduct hate campaigns against people like you sad sad You keep doing what you're doing. God works so much through lovely you.

Jan, oh poor you. I can only agree with the others. I do not think God is a God who would want someone to stick in an abusive marriage, because the wedding vows have already been broken on one side, and if that side isn't doing anything about it what can you do? It must be so, so hard and you don't need misplaced guilt over it on top of all the other emotions you must be feeling sad Go easy on yourself and remember God's comfort, God's everlasting arms, God's faithfulness. Praying.

Kay, that is great about DS and about h's reaction to you being nice and calm, good for you! smile answers to prayer. smile We see so much answered prayer on this thread...someone should do a spreadsheet ;) Hope you are feeling ok - continuing to pray for you.

Really struggling with ministry here atm. Don't know if it's just the whole coming out of being so ill, and realising the huge task we have. Pioneer ministry is so different to 'normal' vicar-ing, it is lonely and hard and so so tough. About ready to jack it in some days tbh. We need God to break in here. Please can you pray - also another one in ministry feeling under attack big time here.

Kaykat Thu 31-Jan-13 18:55:25

Ooo did someone say spreadsheet? Spreadsheet are my obsession speciality. Stepping away from computer.

Kaykat Thu 31-Jan-13 18:59:50

Amber how can anyone have an anti autism hate campaign? Some people are unbelievable I feel very cross for you.

MHD thinking of you, you're doing amazing coping with the illness and your ministry too, hoping you get the support you deserve.

amberlight Thu 31-Jan-13 19:48:39

I'm very used to hate-stuff, unfortunately. There's a minority in the world who hate us and do everything they can to cause us difficulties. Bullies.

Praying for those struggling with ministry too.

Oh, Amber. Life isn't fair. Fortunately God is and He thinks you're worth dying for grin

MHD, I wish that we were pioneer-bound. We were part of the leadership team who gathered/led a missional community before we came to college. It is unbelievably hard work for so many reasons (including ignorance of some parts of the church) but I believe it is the most effective evangelism tool in our society today.

If anyone is interested, I read the most horrifying and eye-opening article in The Telegraph about the effect porn is having on our children. I had a bit of a God-inspired moment and I feel compelled to do something about it. I may be small but God is bigger than the porn industry. I'm praying about it and have been in contact with Danielle Strickland among others to try and get some advice/get the message spread about how porn is affecting our society. I know that this is a delicate subject but I strongly believe that it is time to normalise 'normal' sex within marriage instead of porn being seen as a normal part of society. I've got a thread in the In the News section about the Telegraph article if you fancy joining in.

cloutiedumpling Thu 31-Jan-13 21:44:11

PA - I'm sorry things are so difficult for you atm. Praying for the whole PA family. I know we are all spread out geographically and I know we are all praying for you and yours but is there anything practical we can do for your DDs here?

Praying for Room and MHD and those involved in ministry. Also for those in difficult relationships.

blackeyedsusan Fri 01-Feb-13 07:38:02

praying fo dd1 pa.

we had the meeting with the community childrens' dvice person yesterday re ds and asd. my hed is reeling. it feels like school is not working with me either.

jaynebxl Fri 01-Feb-13 07:49:22

What a fab thread. I've floated on MN for ages but only just discovered this. Praying now :-)

jann2013 Fri 01-Feb-13 09:23:49

Amber, thank you and the others for your kind words and i was actually thinking of you the other day, thinking i hadn't seen you for awhile and hoped you were ok... unbelievable that people would hate you, its a wonderful thing that God is at your right hand and he is your defender.

praying for mhd and those families in the ministry under attack that the Lord Jesus would cover every door and every person in his precious blood and protect them, give strength and grace and support. and a fresh new annointing of his spirit for each of us in whatever we are going through, to see with new eyes... my perspective just gets lost sometimes.

BES i hope you are ok

welcome jaynebxl its great you have discovered us its such a supportive thread

Flying by to ask for prayers of wisdom WRT house sale. Our solicitor seems to be doing a fab job and realises that we are being bullied in to things by the buyer. I feel confident now that we have the solicitor protecting us. We do need this sale to go ahead though...

blackeyedsusan Fri 01-Feb-13 21:48:10

got a killing tooth ache. again. help!

Dutchoma Fri 01-Feb-13 22:28:47

Clove oil? Camomile tea? Emergency dentits to morrow? Praying for some sleep at least in the night.

blackeyedsusan Fri 01-Feb-13 22:49:17

clove oil tomorrow. dentist on monday if not settled down. I get pain occasionally if something gets stuck deep between the teeth at the back where they are a bit too tight together. using the floss sent me through the roof though.

i am getting mum out of the home this weekend and need to go and sort out the house.

I get that BES. I put sensodyne on a tepe brush and push it between my teeth.

I saw the dentist this week myself. The joy of receding gums means I need another small filing sad

Welcome Jayne smile

Thank you for all your prayers for DD1 and my mum. We do feel this is all a spiritual attack, as you have said. The devil certainly knows my Achilles heel is my children and I always wish the attack was on me personally rather than to use an attack on them to get to me, IYSWIM.
Please continue to pray for DD1 and her future.

Prayers for the toothache to go quickly, BES.
For Jan and for Kaykat and their situations.
And also for everyone else on here - I just tried to name you all, but I know I would miss someone, so it is easier to say that I am praying for you all.

Teahouse Sat 02-Feb-13 14:36:52

Seems wrong to ask for prayers for me but I had a TVT fitted Monday and been on a catheter since. I am hoping to have it out tomorrow; very scared they will need to refit it...actually terrified would be more accurate.

Dutchoma Sat 02-Feb-13 15:11:49

Had to google TVT Teahouse, it sounds terrifying to me, let alone to you when you've had it done. Be assured of my prayers, let us know how it goes.

Kaykat Sun 03-Feb-13 08:47:52

Hi Jayne and Teahouse. Praying that the TVT is successful and everything goes well tomorrow. Praying for PAs DD1 and BESs toothache to go away. Also for Littleones house sale to go through smoothly and for those feeling under attack.

I am definitely going to get to chuch today. DS out with his dad for the day. Trying to choose between three local churches. I may know people at all of them and worried that if anyone asks how I am or even if a stranger asks to pray for me, that I will dissolve into a crumpled heap of crying. Please can you also pray that H doesn't spend the day critising me to DS, or if he does, that DS doesn't believe him.

jann2013 Sun 03-Feb-13 09:39:02

praying, please keep us updated PA on dd1

hope you enjoy church kaykat and you find something that suits.... its ok to cry sometimes and receive help but hope God brings the right help

please pray for my friend she lost her baby at 7 weeks last night sad sad

please also pray for me im just really not coping these days, going back to the docs next week as health going downhill as well need break through

waitingtobeamummy Sun 03-Feb-13 10:30:45

Hi all, i am sorry to jump on your thread, i posted this as a new thread on spirituality but i was told you lovely people might be able to help. i have just cut and pasted somapologies again if i am in thevwrong place.
I have been in the situation I am for the past 6months I think although it did happen gradually.
My mom is a devout catholic and my dad is an athuest. My moms family are very religious but I was allowed to form ny own opinions/didn't go to religious schools etc.
I grew up very spiritual, strong belief in god, not a strict religion as such but I believed in heaven etc.

Over the past 6 months though I feel my spirituality has gone. I'm infertile, having fertility treatment but nothings happening. My friend had twins through ivf and they both just died suddenly. My best friends husband has a terminal brain tumour. My dad is crippled.

I've had wobbles before but I cannot believe that a loving god would let this happy. I have explored the benevolent god theory, free will etc but I cannot believe in it.

I desperately want to have my faith back, I cannot see a life with no belief but I am struggling to be able too. Any ideas what I can do/read etc to help myself?

Tuo Sun 03-Feb-13 12:22:29

Hello all. Sorry for the long silence: have just been buried in work this week. I'd appreciate 'getting things done' prayers, as I'm really struggling with my workload at the moment. Nice to see some new faces while I've been away...

Waiting - I saw your other thread and am glad you have posted here. I am so sorry that you are in such a sad situation, and I wish I had words of wisdom that might help, but can only offer my prayers for your situation... I was going to pray that you find a way back to God, but I truly believe that He's with you even in these dark times, so I think that 'finding the way back' is probably the wrong metaphor - maybe it's more about finding ways of seeing Him even in your pain? I was agnostic for many years, and although I hadn't been through the difficult situations that you have, I do recognise very well that feeling of wanting to believe but feeling that the 'leap of faith' needed is just too great. You will be in my prayers.

Teahouse - praying that you managed to have the catheter removed and that you are doing OK. Come back and fill us in!

Jayne - Welcome.

PA - Praying for your DD1, for you and her to make the right decision about her immediate future, for her sake and for your peace of mind too.

Jan - I'm sorry that you are finding things so tough at the moment, and I pray that they take a turn for the better soon. Also praying for your poor friend - how dreadful. sad

Kay - Praying that you have a good church experience today. As Jan says, it's OK to cry - you've been through some terrible times - and no-one will judge you for that. Praying for your DS, too, that he have the confidence and discernment not to be swayed by anything that his dad may tell him, and to be secure in your love for him.

Room - Praying for your house sale to go through smoothly.

BES - Praying for an end to toothache.

Amber - Praying for you in that difficult situation - I'm so sorry that you have to deal with such nastiness.

Ginger - Thanking God for a potential solution to the thesis crisis and praying that you find the peace (in yourself and in your surroundings) that you need to study and write.

And continued prayers for health for MHD, for Bob, and for baby Beatrice. And prayers for all who need them, posters, lurkers and those known to us personally. (And apologies to anyone I've forgotten.)

Waitingtobeamummy there's a book by Philip Yancey called Where is God When it Hurts.

Also HTB runs a course in London for married couples going through bereavement and also unable to conceive/ have a baby. I'm not sure where you live but perhaps when you're stronger you can look into courses like that?

I certainly found the divorce course I went to helped; to be surrounded by people who understood what I was going through, were going through the same and had the same questions and I formed lasting friendships from it.

I know your situation is different but perhaps that would be helpful, to look into a course like that at a Church, so you can ask those tough questions in a safe environment with people who have been through the same x


Waiting - Sometimes life just does not make any sense at all and I can see exactly why you are struggling so much now. I could not think of a single person that would not be struggling, so don't be hard on yourself. Prayers that God will hold you and let Himself been seen by you.

Oh dear, internet not good and keep cutting in and out, so I will not scroll anymore. I have read through and prayed. Thanks to TUO for your lovely posts, I find them very useful while my internet doesnt behave - i seem to get all the basic info I need for everyone, so thank you.

<can I tell you a secret? > I think DD1 is going to come and join us for a while here. <<<squeal>>> Just had a long chat with her and it looks like she will be coming over for 3 months before we head back together in the summer. Please pray with me that this time will refresh her, renew her and revitalise her, but above all I pray that being away from her friends and her life in the UK will give her an opportunity to seek God and find Him.
Lots to plan and sort out yet, but it definitely looks to be heading that way.

Tuo Sun 03-Feb-13 15:50:36

Sounds like an answer to prayer, PA. I'm pleased it looks as if this is going to work out for you and for DD1. smile

I know that once we get close to 500 posts it gets hard for some people to load the thread, so will start a new one in the next week or so when I get a moment. (It won't be today, though... [surveys pile of essays]!)

Don't worry TUO I'm sure one of us can start one, if people are having trouble loading it up. You're busy enough already x

MadHairDay Sun 03-Feb-13 19:54:54

That sounds good PA!

Just a quick hello here as haven't been on much over the weekend. Nice to be busy again.

My DMum and DDad were on Songs of Praise tonight talking about experience with angels (which they wrote a book about, partly) if anyone wants to IPlayer it! smile Bless em, they did do well.

cloutiedumpling Sun 03-Feb-13 20:27:17

Lurking and praying. Praying and lurking.

GingerCurl Sun 03-Feb-13 20:39:31

I've just watched it, MDH. They did really, really well and seem such lovely people. Actually, I found the whole programme really inspiring. The story about the figure in the car gave me goosebumps.

Anyway, came back from a lovely evening service a little while ago. The sermon really surprised me. It seemed to address something that I was not really aware that it had been troubling me and certainly not in the way it was presented in the sermon. I realise I'm not expressing myself very well, but I came away feeling very encouraged.

Giving thanks for answered prayers and praying for all those in need, whether physically, spiritually or mentally. Lord, in your mercy, hear our prayers.

jaynebxl Sun 03-Feb-13 20:42:59

Dontsteponthemomeraths I recommended exactly that book in the other thread too!


Watching Songs of Praise right now MHD x

Kaykat Sun 03-Feb-13 22:46:48

I went to an evening service and found it very uplifting. As soon as i walked in i got an overwhelming sense of how far ive come since the summer and i got quite a joyful feeling. There were a few people I know but the only person I got into conversation with has been through exactly what I've been through.

Ooo I love that. I call it a Godincidence wink Rather than coincidence iyswim? Hmm it's not that clever is it? Or I wouldn't feel the need to explain it grin

I do love it though; God's timing and the right people to talk to, just when you need it x

Kaykat Sun 03-Feb-13 23:32:39

Godincidence smile yep definitely Godincidence.