DD seems to know all about my past. Very, very odd.

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FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 15:38:38

This has been going on for ages, but I've only just really had the nerve to post about it. >Deep breath<

DD (four years old), says some very odd things. She tells me about my life and these are things she couldn't possibly know. For example, "Do you remember when you used to walk along the little lane and saw the pony and the heron?" - something that used to happen regularly to me when I was about six years old, walking to school with my mum and brother (it was a real horse and a plastic heron!). Also, things like we'll go to a car boot sale and she'll say it's like the jumble sales in the church when uncle >name< was a little boy and he bought a great big Mr Tickle jigsaw but some pieces were missing. This is again something that happened to me as a child. She told everyone in her Nursery that I'd fallen in the kitchen and had stitches in my head. She told them that the doctor was weaing a turban. Again, that happened when I was tiny and she would never have known about it. Another thing is that she identified a distant relative in a photo "Uncle >name<" and she would never have met him or heard about him, to my knowledge.

There are loads and loads of incidences like this. My mum thinks it's very weird and is confused by it. My brother thinks I must be telling her things without knowing I'm doing it.

I don't know why I'm posting really. This doesn't cover it at all, but there are far too many examples to include.

Has anyone else had any experience of this sort of weirdness??

P.S. I don't believe in re-incarnation or anything at all like that, so I'm not suggesting that sort of thing.

FaneFeyre Tue 12-Jun-12 15:41:50

This is really interesting. How do you feel about it? Do you have any thoughts yourself (no matter how out there) about what's going on?

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 15:43:45

I feel a bit unnerved by it. In every other way DD is completely normal and chats away about everyday things. Sometimes it makes me stop in my tracks and I'm always glad when she says things in front of other people because I'd worry for my sanity otherwise!

bigTillyMint Tue 12-Jun-12 15:43:52

How weird. Are you sure your mum hasn't been telling her stories about when you were a little girl? Or another family member?

DailyMailSpy Tue 12-Jun-12 15:45:07

Maybe other relatives have been telling her these things? Or showing her photographs.

Very strange..........what do you think causes these memories of before her being born-maybe she has been on this earth before in a past life ?

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 15:46:25

I don't think anyone has been telling her things that could lead to the things she comes out with. Most of the things she says nobody else would know what she means. For example, there is a building in the local town which has the same name as somewhere near where I used to live and she commented on it. I'd never think to mention it, and no other family members live near here or know about it.

mopbucket Tue 12-Jun-12 15:46:29

Oh wow this is so intreasting
A little girl i know talks about a uncle that died 2 days before she was born and tells her mum storys that have never been talked about

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Tue 12-Jun-12 15:46:56

Obviously your daughter is demonically possessed. Book an exorcism forthwith.

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 15:48:15

No, we don't see my mum or brother particularly often and the photo with my uncle was in someone's house that we've never been to before.

She also seems to recognise music that she wouldn't have heard before and will hum tunes and I have no idea how she knows them.

Apologies for my badly-worded phrases, but I can't believe I'm finally discussing this (in a good way!)

ripsishere Tue 12-Jun-12 15:49:05

Bell, candle, salt.
Seriously, I have no idea but it is fascinating.

ThreadWatcher Tue 12-Jun-12 15:51:45

Very odd indeed but not the first time I have heard of it happening.
I bet all such comments by her stop within a couple of years - because that is what seems to hapoen with kids who do this.

DailyMailSpy Tue 12-Jun-12 15:54:36

What does she say when you as her how she knew about those things?

squoosh Tue 12-Jun-12 15:55:01

I know someone who when she was 6 or so solemnly told her parents that her Grandad was dead. He hadn't been ill but they received a phone call minutes later to say he'd been taken to hospital in an ambulance and had passed away.

Spooky things happen sometimes. I do think some people have flashes where they can 'see' things. Often it seems to be small children. Maybe our logic takes over as we get older and we suppress it.

I'm not 'woo' and don't believe in angels dropping white feathers etc. but there definitely are things that we can't understand.

I wouldn't say anything to your daughter, you don't want to frighten her or worse still make her feel as if she frightens you.

DailyMailSpy Tue 12-Jun-12 15:55:23

**ask

I can imagine that being really unnerving! But surely, rationally the only explanation is that she's picked it up from you/other family members... It's the only solution my mind will let me process! grin

handbagCrab Tue 12-Jun-12 15:58:33

Muses and this is probably scientifically bollocks..

So our cells die and are replaced yet we don't forget everything we know. Somehow this is passed onto new cells.
As dd is made from you perhaps it's passed on in the womb or something.

Or she's telepathic. Or subconsciously you're telling her this stuff and not realising. Or subconsciously you're only picking up on stuff that might resonate with your past and your brain is making more of it than there is. Or ...

Interesting smile

Do you have a DP/H? Could he have been sharing some of these stories with her?

choceyes Tue 12-Jun-12 15:59:58

wow this is so interesting. How on earth could she know these things? How do you feel about this?

HattieHarriet Tue 12-Jun-12 16:00:01

Hmmm... Why would anyone think to mention the doctor wearing a turban, even if someone had told her about your accident as a child?

It's fascinating op- is it just you she talks about?

RationalBrain Tue 12-Jun-12 16:04:57

That's really interesting. As you can tell by my username, I'm not at all woo! There are all sorts of rational explanations, but keep an open mind. There is an awful lot in this world we can't explain, particularly wrt how the brain works.

You may never find out why/how this is happening. But its pretty interesting! Provided it doesn't worry you at all?

cocolepew Tue 12-Jun-12 16:06:46

When my DD2 was very young we wete at a local stately home, she must only gave been 3 or 4. The were pictures on a biard dhowing a dance. DD went into great detail sbout 'the girk leaving the housr in the woods to go to the ball'. She described a small cabin and how the girl and her sisters were excited etc. The poor guide nearly dropped. She said DD had described a christmas party where the staff were invited along. She even went and got photos from a back room and the cabin was exactly how DD described it.

Another time I was resding a book and she said 'Do you think he'll escape from the fire in the woods?' a few pages after that the main character was trapped in a forest which had fire raging through it.

Toddle Tue 12-Jun-12 16:07:17

W

cocolepew Tue 12-Jun-12 16:07:27

Dear god sorry about typos.

Barmix Tue 12-Jun-12 16:11:25

OP, keep a record of what she's saying!

Pearla Tue 12-Jun-12 16:12:30

I like handbag's explanation.

CurrySpice Tue 12-Jun-12 16:16:55

I don't know what's causing it but could you ask her for Saturday's lottery numbers please?

FfoFfycsecs Tue 12-Jun-12 16:22:03

How interesting!
I also know a lot of people who have experienced this kind of thing as children. I'm a bit like that myself. I once wrote a story (as an adult, this was only about 5 years ago) based in a particular town. I had never lived in said town and didn't know much about it, but it's beautiful and it interested me. Anyway, in the story, I decided that no6 Church Street would be a butcher's in the story, because it suited me and the plotlines. Turns out it did use to be a butcher's... shock It's not even central to the town, there are no other shops on that street, and it hasn't got windows like a shop, just a normal house.
This has happened to me a few times with this one town. I just know things about it. My forefathers were from there, so I do wonder if there's some sort of as-yet-undiscovered inherited memory...
I'd keep a diary. If it does fade, she'll be interested in a few years. smile

Mjtay Tue 12-Jun-12 17:02:46

Wow!!! I hope this doesn't spook u out. I think it's wonderful! Intrigued if it is only stuff about u?! Children are so susceptible to this kind of stuff!! I do think our dead stay with us, and have seen a few clairvoyants. I can feel now when passed loved ones are near me. Is ur mother still alive?! Xx

I am very interested in reading all of your posts. I wonder if memories can be passed on to offspring in the womb if, maybe you have deep thoughts of earlier times when you are pregnant.

confuzed90 Tue 12-Jun-12 17:36:29

This is interesting and has baffled me...I'm thinking possibly telepathic if there's no explanation? It is all strange!have you asked her questions that only you know? And see her answers?

joyjac Tue 12-Jun-12 17:39:41

One of my dc used to say they could remember being born. Gave very detailed info about the delivery room, even down to the slightly unusual clock on the wall. After about the age of 4 was unable to recall details, and a few years later had no memory of it at all.
No real point to this except to say that children are strange little blighters and often seem to function on a different level to adults in their first years.
Slightly OT, but maybe not, has anyone heard of herd memory?

candytuft63 Tue 12-Jun-12 17:47:15

I think there really is something in the idea of genetic memory.
My Dss drew a picture of the village where his dad grew up. Every landmark, the church, the park with the square pond and the street names were entirely accurate.
He had no prior knowledge of this whatsoever.
So, so interesting.

PissyDust Tue 12-Jun-12 17:48:59

Wow.

exoticfruits Tue 12-Jun-12 17:54:08

I would keep a diary and log them.
Only a small part of our mind is the conscious part and most of it is the unconscious -perhaps she just tunes into this more than most. She may well lose it as she gets older.

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 17:58:04

Sorry for my disappearance - had to deal with dinner etc.

When she talks about things it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable, but they are mainly pleasant memories and she doesn't seem afraid or at all bothered, so it seems ok. When I ask how does she know, she just shrugs and says she remembers. I don't make a big deal in case it scares her.

The music thing is weird. She hums all sorts of songs that I'd forgotten. Nobody would have sung them to her.

I do have a DH, but as the memories are all from 'before his time', he is less involved, if you know what I mean.

BertieBotts Tue 12-Jun-12 17:59:22

Some people believe that children are more sensitive to this kind of thing than adults and older people. It's supposed to be up until around age seven that this sensitive period is most prominent. The theory is that they are more able to connect on a spiritual level which anyone can do, but most have forgotten how.

NatashaBee Tue 12-Jun-12 18:04:02

This sort of thing fascinates me. As much as I want to keep my rational head on and say it's impossible, sometimes I hear stories about children recalling/knowing things that there is no other explanation for, apart from some level of psychic ability.

RabidAnchovy Tue 12-Jun-12 18:16:51

shock

MistyRocks Tue 12-Jun-12 18:20:02

wow op that is really freaky confused

no advice really just marking my place!

The day that my boy's dad died DS3 was in nursery. I took DS1 to see ExH in ITU and he was officialy declared dead at noon. When I went to collect DS3 his very nervous key worker asked if ExH had died, and I replied well he was declared at noon, and asked why she asked. She went white and told me that at noon DS3 had looked up from what he was doing, calmly declared that his daddy was dead, and then continued playing as if nothing had happened. I smiled and said well he got it right then!

Greeata Tue 12-Jun-12 18:26:48

Children have really good memories. You have been talking to her for hours everyday for 5 years. She's just telling you things you have told her.

But I haven't a woo bone in my body. grin
Can't explain the uncle photo thing, though.

NatashaBee Tue 12-Jun-12 18:30:35

Nibledbyducks... was your ExH ill or was it a sudden death, if you don't mind me asking? Either way, it is another one of those instances that i just can't find a rational explanation for, as hard as i try!

CJfromTheWestWing Tue 12-Jun-12 18:31:03

I am spooked by all things fey and woo, and rationalise everything.

And I think that if you can inherit a mennerism, or a look, why not a memory?

If you think of it that way, then it is not really odd at all.

It was a suicide by overdose, DS3 was four at the time and had been told that his dad might die but seemed to be ok at the time.

Saltire Tue 12-Jun-12 18:41:16

Things like this have happened with my Dses and my niece

All 3 of them have had "chats" with my dad, who died when i was 16. None of them obviously never met him, and although they may have seen pics there was a lot of details about him that they told DB and I, that they couldn't possibly have known.

Like the name of his dog - who died before I was born
Or the breed of dog, how old it was when he got it and the fact it had a bald patch on its back. (I didn't know that and had to check with my aunt)

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 19:45:50

I'm so sorry Nibled. sad

I always presume I must have told DD things, but she can describe in detail the layout of houses I've lived in as a child, as well as personal thoughts such as "You liked the doors because of the glass with the funny circles in them" - which is right and nobody else would remember or know that.

We were in an Oxfam book shop the other day and she picked up an old Ladybird book that I used to have and made a point of showing me the inside, which really brought back memories. I told her I'd had that one and she said she knew (although she hasn't seen it at any family members' house). This isn't a good example really, but it's just yet another thing.

It's very hard to describe, but DD also seems to associate random words with objects that I do too. Nobody knows these words. Things like diamond shapes remind me of the name Gwen for some inexplicable reason. DD says these things and doesn't know why. It's really odd, but I don't think I can explain it properly.

OK, this is going to seem like drip-feeding now, but I just didn't want to immediately put this idea as a link, but the 'memories' seem to stop around the time my dad died, so there's nothing of secondary school for example.

candr Tue 12-Jun-12 19:59:58

This must really freak you out sometimes but good that it is all nice things. I used to visit places with my parents and somehow knew my way around the homes and gardens (the type of old hime that opens for the public). I once talked about the fish in th lake and led my parents there. There was no lake but the owners said there had been 50yrs ago and it stocked unusual fish. I still get the dejavu feeling sometimes but not so much and it was never scary.

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 20:05:42

Yes, it's mainly nice stuff or just everyday, but sometimes it's not so good. For example, she'll say something about a nasty boy who took my lunch at school (including a brand of chocolate biscuit that she'll never have heard of!) and a few other incidents. It's pretty minor though. She recently said that I once walked into a bedroom and my mum was crying with a big yellow belt and a fluffy stool. I don't remember this, but my mum said she thinks she knows when that would have been. It's very odd. It's not a constant stream of 'memories', but these things do happen fairly regularly. It's strange that she seems to be aware of the way I felt and the atmosphere, not just actual events of people.

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 20:09:54

Oh, and I should add that she doesn't know about everything. For example someone gave me a DVD of classic children's programmes that I used to watch and she didn't know anything about them.

CamelKnees Tue 12-Jun-12 20:11:06

Sorry, dont have any answers but I am completely fascinated by this.

Did anybody see this. Found it VERY interesting

LeBonkeyMollocks Tue 12-Jun-12 20:15:42

Marking place to read through later. smile

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 20:17:56

That looks very interesting, Camel!

DD doesn't say that she was in any of the events, she always says it's me and asks if I remember them. She unfortunately tells people things (like the doctor with the turban incident) as though they're currently happening though. For example, she told her little friend that my dad had locked me in the garage and I was scared. My dad accidentally locked me in the garage when I was playing outside about thirty years ago! I'd never mentioned it to anyone, as it was a non-event, I was only in there a few minutes before he realised. In fact I'd completely forgotten about it until I heard them talking about it while they were playing.

She's never said she was there and when I ask how she knows, she says she doesn't know.

ElephantsStreetParty Tue 12-Jun-12 20:22:09

I used to freak my mum out when I was wee by randomly saying things she was thinking about. And it wasn't in situations which had an obvious trigger (eg programmes we were watching tv) but would come right out the blue. It ggot to the point she'd deliberately avoid thinking about things she didn't want me to know about, as this happened too often to be mere coincidence.

I started doing this again when I was a teenager. She was not impressed!

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 20:23:16

Sorry to keep posting, but it's so great to 'talk' about this!

It's the details that she comes out with that unnerve me. She remembers the kitchen flooring in our first house (no photos - we didn't have a camera then); she mentions the day we had sweets from Greece at school and what they tasted like; she said something about a purple shoebox that had candles in it - which was our neighbour over thirty years ago. Smells seem to trigger a lot for her, such as the floor in the place I did ballet and a museum that we used to go to when we were very young.

As I mentioned, the random words for things are probably the most spooky to me, as I've never told anybody about them. I know this is strange, but some shape of privet hedge reminds me of the name Gemma. DD called them Gemma plants when we walked past some the other day. I've definitely never told anyone about that (or the many, many other things that she comes out with).

CamelKnees Tue 12-Jun-12 20:25:03

Bloody hell Fred! I find it very hard to rationalise all of this. I do think there is a lot we just don't know.

Her talking about it from your point of view does seem to support the suggestion that she's somehow aware of your memories rather than just knowing of the events

cocolepew Tue 12-Jun-12 20:26:07

My DD didn't say anything else wooy after the age of 4 but she knows every fricking song in the world.

A song from years ago will come on the radio and she starts singing along straight away. If you ask her how she knows it she always says I just do.

DairyNips Tue 12-Jun-12 20:26:55

Wow this is fascinating, you should definitely write these downsmile

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 20:27:45

Yes, she seems to be aware of things from my point of view, rather than just the events themselves, although there are some things that I don't have any memory of.

In every other way, she's completely normal. I promise! grin

BodyOfEeyore Tue 12-Jun-12 20:30:04

Fred, I am amazed at how much you remember stuff!

I do believe that souls carry on and I think this is something to do with that side of things. Do write it down because your DD may well find it very interesting when she is older.

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 20:33:14

For some reason I'm resistant to writing it all down and I don't really know why. I suppose it's because it's acknowledging how weird it is, although of course I'm doing that right now anyway!

BodyOfEeyore Tue 12-Jun-12 20:36:09

Keep a copy of the thread somewhere then please. YOu might regret it if you don't.
(I don't mean that to sound like a threat grin)

Angelico Tue 12-Jun-12 20:37:47

Really fascinating. I do think kids know things in some instinctive way that us supposedly rational adults can't quite grasp.

Not quite the same but my mum lost her father (my GD) when she was a very young child. He had been in the house for a year slowly dying of cancer. My granny told me that mum used to get sent to stay with relatives every few days just to get away from the misery of it all. She would chat to him before she went but never say goodbye just kind of skip out. On this particular day she went in to the bedroom where GD was and apparently just gave him this really long look and said "Bye bye daddy," then calmly left. Granny was a bit bemused but dismissed it as GD seemed the same as every day - but he died very suddenly that night.

Think it freaked my granny out a bit afterwards - certainly she was telling me about it 40 years later and admitted she'd always wondered how mum had 'known'.

Gemtubbs Tue 12-Jun-12 20:38:51

Amazing. My ds often talks about when he used to be a girl, but I don't take any notice. haha

A cousin of mine did something similar. 4 years old, went into the playroom of my Nan's house, came out ten minutes later with all of these family secrets and quirks and random information. Nan asked her how she knew and she said that the lady had told her in the bedroom and pointed out to where everything was in that room. The house had belonged to my Nan's mother, she died and Nan took the house. The playroom had been her mother's bedroom and the child was born months after the mother had died. No photos existed of the bedroom as the mother had a thing about cameras. It still freaks me out and the child's mother denies it to this day!

& only a couple of years ago my Nan's adopted daughter freaked out one night in her bedroom at around 2am. Next day my Nan discovered that adopted daughters biological Mum had been found dead, time of death was around the time she woke (not 100% sure).

Kids just seem to know these things sometimes, it's very weird!

Wow, this is so fascinating! I definitely think you should record it all, I'd hope your daughter would be fascinated by it too when she's older, especially as she may stop doing it.

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 20:48:17

The thing is that I do want her to stop doing it. It's strange and she might get picked on if an 'outsider' finds out and also there are plenty of things that I don't want my daughter to know about! Nothing major, but personal, private stuff. I don't want her telling people about that I wet myself in the supermarket, for example! By the way, I was three years old then!

FaceForRadio Tue 12-Jun-12 20:49:30

Very interesting indeed.

Perhaps as dd grows older she'll be able to (at least try) to process these thoughts/memories so that you might get a better insight as to where/who they're coming from.

Although it seems very odd and it may freak you out, please don't stifle her as she'll become scared of these and in time it could be something she never shares with you.

I think you and your dd have a very special bond.

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 20:54:23

Oh, I don't try to stop her because I don't want her to realise that it's odd. It's difficult to ignore though and sometimes I want her to keep talking, especially if it's about my dad, but I don't want to push her in case she starts making things up because she thinks I want her to talk. Also, I suppose I'm not keen on encouraging it, as I say, I don't want her to be aware of every detail of my life. Mostly for privacy but also because there are a lot of sad feelings around my dad being ill, my mum not coping well and the loneliness and panic that I felt for a long time etc.

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 20:55:24

By the way, I'm not one to dwell on my childhood at all. I don't talk to her much about it. We're busy and get on with life. smile

ledkr Tue 12-Jun-12 20:59:50

Ooo Ive got the teary eye thing going on at this thread.
My boy once announced he was <name> and told me where he used to live.It was the name of a boy in our town who was murdered aged 18 just before ds was born and he did live at the street he pointed out.

I chose to just put it down to weirdness and put it to the back of my mind.

I think that your story is definately odd and cannot be explained rationally. Why dont you ask a medium?

Mjtay Tue 12-Jun-12 21:01:24

Just been thinking about this while I showered!! And I'm sure this is ur dads contact. Has ur dd seen photos of him, and how does she react to him?! So lovely he's with u both xxx

FaceForRadio Tue 12-Jun-12 21:06:44

Just what I was thinking Mjtay.

Perhaps this explains why the memories are from when your dad was still here.

Nothing to add except 'wow!' this is really fascinating, and whilst at the time it must be a little freaky when she comes out with your memories, is it not also wonderful that you get to re-live bits and bobs that you may have forgotten?

It's really really interesting.

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 21:10:03

I haven't been to see anyone about it. I don't honestly believe in mediums etc and have no real reason to think it's anything to do with my dad. It's just a coincidence that the 'memories' stop when he died. A lot of the events involve him, but they would at that age. A month or so ago, DD identified a wild flower and said that my dad had told me what it was when we'd seen them on a walk one morning when my brother and mum were asleep (we used to get up early at the weekend and go for walks). I checked the name of the flower out online when we got home and she was right. I suppose she could have heard this from someone else though, but it's the sort of thing my dad would have said. There are so many examples, but it's so hard to describe.

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 21:13:32

Oh, sorry I didn't mean to come across as unkind to those who have suggested contacting a medium etc. I don't mean to be rude, I'm just very cynical.

Sittinginthesun Tue 12-Jun-12 21:14:23

This is fascinating.

I have a very rational, no- nonsense friend whose eldest son used to talk about his "previous life", with lots of detail about the name of the street where he lived, his wife's name, and his journey on a boat across the Atlantic. It started as soon as he could talk, and stopped at around 4 years old. At 2 years, he was describing things that he couldn't possibly have been told - real historical detail.

FaceForRadio Tue 12-Jun-12 21:15:46

Your last post strengthens my thoughts about it being to do with your dad.

I think it's nice.

What does your DH say about all this?

PeaceLoveAndFakeSparklyCrap Tue 12-Jun-12 21:16:31

I dont know about your DD's ability, maybe she just has a strong connection to you.

But when we were children my younger (by 5 years) brother had an imaginary friend, he talked about this friend pretty much from the time he could talk and would play with and behave as if this friend was a completely real person,
I vividly remember how upset he would get if someone insisted that he wasn't real or they couldn't see him.

That in its self is nothing really unusual, but that was just the tip of it.
DBro's 'friend' was called Tun, and he would tell Dbro all sorts of strange and interesting stories, which quite a lot of the time involved things that he could not possibly know anything about.
The most shocking/scary one was about Tun's job, DBro said Tun told he that he fixed airplane engines and was going to/flew planes in the war.
Tun told DBro all sorts of things about planes and plane engines, DBro was obsessed, he talked about it constantly, always drawing pictures of them and making models, always wanting parts and toys of them.
We never thought much of it.
Then when DBro was about 5ish our DF became friends with a exRAF engineer, and he spent a lot of time at our house with his family. He was fascinated by DBros knowledge of engines and they would sit and talk about specific plane engines for hours.
He told us that everything DBro said was spot on and even his drawing and things were very accurate.
There is no way DBro learned about planes or engines from anyone else or books, he had been talking about them since he could talk, it was very bizarre.
But when asked DBro always just said Tun told him, as if that was completely logical.

I think it freaked out my parents a bit and they researched quit a bit about other things he had talked about, and it turned out that pretty much everything that they could check was 100% true, and there was no way DBro could have known it.

Then one day DBro was out playing in the garden with Tun and he came inside quite upset, and when DM asked what was wrong he said that it was Tun's time to go, because his family were waiting for him, but that DBro wasn't to be sad because he would always watch out for him and he would look forward to the day when they would meet again.
DBro said he was happy that Tun was going to be with his family because he knew that he missed them, and he wasn't sad that Tun was leaving, just because he was going to miss him.

He was about 7 at the time, and never really spoke of Tun again.

When we asked DBro about it growing up (and still even now) he had memories of Tun, and I think part of him genuinely believes that he was a real person and that we are all just pulling his leg when we say he was not real.

I don't know if it was a ghost/spirit or something, I don't even really believe in that kind of thing, but DBro still has fond memories of Tun, and I know that he made his childhood very happy.

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 21:18:24

DH think it's really, really odd. At first he thought it was funny because she was using words she wouldn't really understand, but as she's said things to my relatives that they know about and I can't remember, he's convinced there's "summat up". He's not worried though, but he doesn't tell anyone either. He and DD are very close too, but she hasn't said anything about his life.

Lcy Tue 12-Jun-12 21:19:48

I am the biggest skeptic going but my 3 year old daughter does the odd thing like this and although a little spooked I just put it down to co-incidence. For example, my dad died a long time a go and we don't really talk about him very much. On the anniversary of his death this year (which DH had forgotten and I had not mentioned) I was sitting at the kitchen table thinking about my dad and she walked in to the kitchen and said "don't be sad mummy your daddy still loves you very much". Bizzare!

FaceForRadio Tue 12-Jun-12 21:22:54

Your dad doesn't know anything about DH's life unfortunately.

This is your dads way of looking out for you smile

If you are ever speaking to dd about your dad, why not say something like 'I wonder what your grandad would think of you in your pretty dress/on your new bike/insert as appropriate' See what she says....

Do you speak to your dd about your father much?

PavlovtheCat Tue 12-Jun-12 21:24:14

My DD aged about 4 at the time, sat on our kitchen counter once just as I was preparing to make some cupcakes. DD said 'i already know how to make cupcakes, nana showed me' and when I asked her when nana showed her, she said 'when you were little I was sat on her counter in the big kitchen with red painted walls and she let me lick the bowl clean afterwards, I was with you mama'.

my mother is dead, died when DD was a baby.

She also said to me once when I was feeling sad and missing my mum, but did not tell her so 'don't be sad mama, nana is ok you know'.

She also said to DH, whose dad is also dead, and never met DD, she said when aged 2-3 'grandad can come ice skating with us now daddy as his leg is better but we have to wait for him as he is far away' his dad had a leg he could not use well due to polio as a child, apparantly DH always wanted him to go ice skating with him but he refused. And I did not know that myself until DD said this to DH, who went white as a sheet, then skirted over it.

dementedma Tue 12-Jun-12 21:28:38

DS "saw" people for a long time when he was younger. he said they spoke words but not the same as us but he could understand. he often described them in detail and would repeat the detail accurately if asked at a later date. he called them "spirit people" and often got annoyed because they kept him awake at night. he liked the lady withe the green dress and yellow hair who sat on his bed because she was kind but didn't lile the boy with the red hair who was "mean".

Sittinginthesun Tue 12-Jun-12 21:30:08

Peacelove - what a lovely story. Made me shiver.smile

HarriettJones Tue 12-Jun-12 21:33:34

Dd3 has all sorts of mannerisms of my Nanna who died 3 years before she was born. Some of these are my Nannas ones that she adapted to after her stroke.

Dd2 used to refuse to go in certain places. Various tour guides have then confirmed suspected hauntings of these rooms. Interestingly she was fine at Muncaster castle which has a v high rate of hauntings.she refused to go into part of Caernafon (sp?) castle as its 'full of people'. This was an empty corridor which later on we read about a battle in that part.
Dd2 stopped these when she was about 6.

Record them all now in case they go.

orangeandlemons Tue 12-Jun-12 21:34:00

The SelfishGene by Richard Dawkins. A book which discusses inherited memory through genes. Very scientific and totally against any form of past life etc

Ratbagcatbag Tue 12-Jun-12 21:37:11

Marking place as fascinated. Agree with the others who say record all the details now. smile

PatFenis Tue 12-Jun-12 21:37:41

Blimey this is really fascinating and maybe not as uncommon as I would have thought given the amount of posters on here who have experienced similar things.

from the moment my youngest DD could string a sentence together, she used to talk about her 'other mummy' or when her name was Penny. It was never a big deal to her and she would often just drop it into conversation as if she had been reminded of something.

For intstance, being on a train going past some sandhills and DD announced ' I came here before when I was Penny but you weren't my mummy then'

She did this regularly between the ages of 2 til she was about 4.5 and has never done it since - weird ....but fascinating!

FredQuimby Tue 12-Jun-12 21:52:17

I'm so glad that others have experienced similar. smile

PeaceLoveAndFakeSparklyCrap Tue 12-Jun-12 21:55:46

I agree you should definitly make a note of at least some of the thing, even just for yourself.

My parents were very good and kept a lot of DBro's drawings and made notes of a lot of the important things that happened and were said, DBro still now keeps these things as fond memories of his childhood friend.

BertieBotts Tue 12-Jun-12 22:05:08

Quite often DS will say something starting with "When I was big/When I was a Daddy and you were a little girl" but then I think he's actually confused about what happens when you grow up, because he will recount something that happened between him and DP!

LemonMousse Tue 12-Jun-12 22:08:17

Fascinating Fred - I can't think of an explanantion.

Peace I loved the story about Tun smile

Mjtay Tue 12-Jun-12 22:16:22

I was very cynical too Fred. Until my friend hassled me into going to see someone to try contact her dad. We saw 3 different ladies, all on recommendation. The last one was AMAZING. Her dad said stop going from medium to medium trying to contact me!! I also had a weird moment. I had an ex Boyf who died in a motorbike accident at 21. I don't think about him very much. And he just suddenly popped into my head, and a split second later she went into the details of his death. Very spooky! Since then, i can feel when he or my grandmother come to me. Anyways, I'm sure this is ur dad letting u know he's there. This mite sound crazy, but find a time u don't feel silly. When uve just got into bed, or having a bath, and just tell him some of the things u don't want him to tell ur dd. He'll know u remember anyway. I bet she'll never come out with them!! Xx

LilRedWG Tue 12-Jun-12 22:21:20

Just marking my spot to come back and read in the morning.

garlicfanjo Tue 12-Jun-12 22:25:26

What an interesting thread! I'm too tired to read it properly right now, so hope it'll be nice & long when I get up tomorrow ...

I've known ever such a lot of small children do this, Fred, no need to worry about feeling weird. They usually seem to have grown out of it by around 8 or 9.

I am not remotely woo, even a sliver. I will point out (as others must have done) that memories are hereditary in a manner of speaking, or else how would we have evolved to know the stuff we do; how are we born with certain talents? Your brain isn't a blank slate when you're born, it's a huge mass of unconnected 'wires' - far more brain power than you'll ever have again. Learning is about connecting the 'wires' to form useful circuits.

It's not unreasonable to suppose your child was born with brain cells that mimic yours. As she grows up, she'll form circuits (synapses) of her own and those cells copied from yours will either get blended into some of hers - maybe she'll always have a thing for fake herons! - or fade away. AFAIK, it's not possible to investigate much about what happens in babies' brains but I do know this is a legitimate line of neuroscientific thought.

It's rather lovely, really smile

garlicfanjo Tue 12-Jun-12 22:29:19

... one of the examples often given when discussing this is the way children eat apples. Most leave the core, but some kids instinctively eat the core as well. If the parents & other family members are core-leavers, you'll generally find there was a grandparent who ate apple cores!
Not woo. Heredity.

Adversecamber Tue 12-Jun-12 22:30:46

Ds spent about two years from age 2 till 4 talking about people he had met and how they had died. Including mention of a huge fire that our family knew nothing about as we are not local to where we live. Turned out a munitions factory had blown up in the war and over a hundred prople had very sadly been killed. After I lost a pg he told me I could have another baby if I wanted to. He told me my friends baby would die before she had it , that my friend would not have her own baby and another friend will have two dc. He also said his aunt would not have any. So far I was too scared to try again, my poor friend had three mc's but did then have a son, my other mate had a child but with donor eggs. Sil tried for a while but after investigation is infertile and the friend that is down for two has not decided if she wants dc yet. The worst thing is he has predicted that my mil will die in a hit and run car accident. He has said nothing now for years thank goodness as I found it distressing. He described how he chose us as parents and his trip from the clouds to us when he was about three

Shakey1500 Tue 12-Jun-12 22:39:11

Fred whether it be inherited memories or your Dad letting you know he's near, I think it's very special and very lovely.

My dad died when I was 4 and oh, how I yearn for a sign from him that he's around and that he's at peace, that I make him proud. Not a day goes by that i don't think of him. Even at my lowest points where I silently begged for a sign, any sign, which didn't come. I try/want it too much I think sad

My (half) sister on the other hand, has had a couple of "visits" from our Nan, via dreams.

onelittlemonkey Tue 12-Jun-12 22:39:29

Wow Fred this is so interesting, so glad you told us smile

Another theory about why DDs memories stop when your dad died is that something in you changed at that point in your life... too tired to articulate it properly but didn't want to forget the thought.

onelittlemonkey Tue 12-Jun-12 22:42:47

sorry that was really rubbish. I mean that rather than DD being connected to your dad, she might be connected to you but that the event of your dad's death changed something important in you (obv) that stops the connection. There. X

chipmonkey Tue 12-Jun-12 23:06:13

Very interesting thread!

Last week, ds4 and I were in the garden. We were walking around and ds4 kept pointing out weeds in the lawn and telling me to get rid of them! Now, dh and I are not wonderful gardeners and are generally unconcerned about weeds! So I asked him who had been talking to him about weeds.
He said "Grandad"
I said "But Grandad's been away" ( dh's Dad has more or less moved to the UK and hasn't seen ds4 much in the last while)
He said "No, the Grandad with Nana Mysurname. He knows all about weeds" My Dad did indeed know all about weeds, he had a PhD in horticulture but he has been dead 10 years and never met either ds3 or ds4.
I said "Are you sure? You mean the far-away Nana or the Near Nana" this is how he differentiates between my Mum and dh's Mum"
And he said "The far-away Nana. But he is a ghost, you know"

Another time, shortly after my Dad died, we only had ds1 and ds2 and we were driving to visit my Mum. Along a particular stretch of road, ds2, who was 3, suddenly said "Grandad went over that hill, and he never came back"
It was true. My Dad had driven along that route on a business trip and died in the hotel he had been staying in. He had driven over that hill and never come back.

PooPooInMyToes Tue 12-Jun-12 23:11:41

Peacelove. That moved me!

PooPooInMyToes Tue 12-Jun-12 23:13:10

Op. I think you should just let her talk. You don't want her to feel she can say certain things.

PooPooInMyToes Tue 12-Jun-12 23:13:21

Can't!

Baby cakes is only 5mo, so not saying very much that's articulate yet, but I would live to hear things like how he picked us as parents and so on. I am rather woo and always wanted woo things to happen to me, but I lead a terribly prosaic life <sigh>

My eldest DD would speak of her other mummy when she was 5or6 years old, but I just put it down as confusion in her mind, maybe it was like the others here.

chipmonkey Tue 12-Jun-12 23:44:13

Ds3 once asked me if I remembered when his "other father" died.

ZhenThereWereTwo Tue 12-Jun-12 23:44:51

My MIL passed away last year. She was very close to my DNiece who she was caring for while my SIL studied nursing both days and nights right up until the day she died.

One day DNiece (then 1.9) was standing in front of the XBox with Kinect motion sensor, SIL and her girls had been playing Just Dance and the sensor was still on.

Everyone else was sitting down so you couldn't see their image on the screen. Suddenly an adult figure appears behind her on the screen just as she starts saying 'Nan, nan, nan'.

DeadEgyptianPrince Tue 12-Jun-12 23:45:10

Had to name change for this.

My youngest brother used to talk more about "When I was bigger than you ..." than about his recent experiences! He was quite right about the way things were done - in my grandparents' generation and before. His memories of being an adult seemed to go from a hundred years or so earlier, to my parents' early adulthood. (Traumatic times on the whole, lots of war.) I was only a teenager and my knowledge of historical detail only went so far; it's quite possible he had valid recollections from way back.

I was certain I'd been a prince (yeah) although I used to yell at my parents a lot that I was really a princess and they'd stolen me grin Thing is, I still recall my memory of the moment I died as a prince - I was a child, having just got out of what I now recognise as a Roman-style bath. I was behind a perforated screen with my nurse, who carried a bunch of white cotton towels for me. Soldiers in bronze & leather armour barged in, nurse tried to keep me hidden but I was killed.

My dad had a story from his service in Egypt. He was a reconnaissance flyer - they were mapping the desert for the first time. As he told it, they were flying over dune after dune, moaning about the heat & dust and lack of anything to see, when Dad said "No, keep your eyes peeled, the village of Lot is just over that dune." And it was!

Posts here have got me wondering if we have an ancient Egyptian ancestor, still passing memories along. Heredity wouldn't explain memory of an ancestor's childhood death, but I'm not a fan of reincarnation or anything like that. Perhaps inherited memories can get slightly garbled in the copying?!

nocluenoclueatall Tue 12-Jun-12 23:56:48

I'm not woo, but several woo things have happened to me over the years, so I can't dismiss things out of hand.

DS is only 2.5 and already he's picking up on stuff he shouldn't really know about. When I was pregnant recently, he would touch my tummy and talk about babies. He just sort of stopped doing it I suppose, which I didn't notice much at the time, but then I miscarried.

He did also once talk about his Grandpa, which is odd because his Grandpa (my Dad) died three years before he was born and has never really been called that to him. His other Grandad is very much with us and is called Grandad, never Grandpa. This is before he'd even watched TV, been to playgroup, or read any books that we hadn't read to him, so it's pretty unlikely that he picked the word up himself.

Strange. I do feel a very deep connection to him though, like I've known him my whole life, IYKWIM.

OP defo write all this stuff down. It sounds like this is all something your daughter will grow out of fairly soon - she'll be fascinated to know all this when she's older.

chipmonkey Tue 12-Jun-12 23:59:37

Oh yes, when ds1 was 18 months old I was reading "Miffy" to him. We got to the part where Mummy rabbit says "If we could have a baby now, how lovely that would be" Ds1 turned around and patted my tummy. I was 8 weeks pregnant with ds2 and we hadn't told him and at that age, even if we had said something I doubt if he would have understood.

JesuislaZombie Wed 13-Jun-12 00:03:44

Zombie does not dismiss the possibility of reincarnation. But she grew up knowing some of the people involved in the early scientific research into the subject. She has always found it fascinating.

www.medicine.virginia.edu/clinical/departments/psychiatry/sections/cspp/dops/home-page

dwpanxt Wed 13-Jun-12 00:07:24

My nephew was very talkative about how he lived before he was born.

He was Daniel aged 13 years old and he lived in a house with his parents. The house seemed to have been crushed with a big rock one day and they all died. Well except for 'Daniel' as he was told he wasnt allowed to stay in heaven and was sent back to earth. He talked a lot about dying and being in heaven .Even as a very small boy he was really scared of bodies and being under covers etc-couldnt play the hiding game with him as he freaked out when heads were covered.

He had a little friend from nursery who always called him Daniel, His real name is nothing like Daniel. DN corrected him every time but to no avail.
One day,prompted by the friend calling him Daniel again DNs Mum told a gathering of other Mums about some of the things DN had been coming out with. Dn stormed into the room and gave her such an evil look that she followed him out of the room.He hissed at her that she should never do this again because ''children are not allowed to tell about before they were born''.

garlicbum Wed 13-Jun-12 00:14:35

Hmm. Did anyone else see Who Do You Think You Were? Link is to the programme on 40D.

This very nice man was convinced he had a past life. If he did, it definitely wasn't the one he half-remembered and revisited under regression.

Duckypoohs Wed 13-Jun-12 01:08:39

I do kind of relate tbh, my dd kind of did the same thing. It was more that she pulled my thoughts from thin air though, I would be thinking of something totally random, she would then verbalise it from thin air. She also identified a place by saying "that is close to Grandad", it was a web address on a random van, she was 2 hmm, she had only visited Grandad once, several months before.

I also remember telling my Mother about her Grandma's house, I totally recall a red fire escape, with chickens milling about in the yard. Which apparently was accurate although I never could have seen it.

I am so not woo, but I could believe in a little bit of telepathy between Mothers and their children before a certain age. It only seemed to occur between dd and I, not her brothers.

For some of the things that occured/dd spoke about I honestly can't see any other explanation.

I am a bit woo <disclaimer> I get deja vu a lot (probably more than once a month), am very sensitive to places/people etc without being 'psychic' or 'a medium'.

Anyhow I am interested by this 'hereditary memory' business.

My dad is not at all woo, indeed he is firmly (adamantly!) cynical. Except for the time he visited Rome and felt entirely at home and knew where he was going while walking around (this was in the mid 60s). He says he had an internal voice asking why strangers were in his city.

I had a very similar feeling about Venice (not been to Rome) when I went in the early 2000s. I knew my way around - I didn't get lost at all, and kept steering DH around back streets. It wasn't a feeling of familiarity exactly (although my heartrate went very strange around the jewish quarter) but certainly one that was not of a stranger.

My family history has been traced back to the 1600s. We are boringly staid North Western English on my dad's side - no italian connection whatsoever, I wonder where those memories could have come from?

Gemtubbs Wed 13-Jun-12 05:18:52

Been thinking about this alot last night. Just how everything in nature seems to go round in a cycle. Is anything ever truly created or destroyed? Everything is always changing though.

Mjtay Wed 13-Jun-12 07:29:24

Wow gem!!! Getting deep. Dont know if I'm gonna be able to shake this off my mind today. Xx

RalphGnu Wed 13-Jun-12 08:03:30

How very interesting.

Last week DS (2.6) and I were in the front room. I was ironing, my back to DS and a song came on the tv that reminds me of my mum and makes me cry. DS has never heard the song before (it's quite obscure) and because of the memories it has for me it's not something I would have ever hummed in front of him.

DS piped up "Are you gonna cry, Mummy? Turn it off."

I told my friend how weird this was so a couple of days later she was at my house and DS was engrossed with a toy. She very quietly started humming the tune and he immediately stopped, glared at her and said "Stop it! It makes Mummy cry!"

There is no way he could've known this. No way at all.

A day or two ago I was singing a song to myself that reminded me of when I was a child and would go to Pontins with my family. I was remembering being in the Crocodile Club (!) and DS ran in the room shouting "Snap! Snap Snap!" and snapping his hands together like a crocodile.

Can't explain it.

DailyMailSpy Wed 13-Jun-12 08:41:25

This thread is so interesting! I've never heard of hereditary memories before but then how does a newborn baby know how to feed, or all the other instinctual things we just know how to do.

My father died when I was a few months old, my parents lived in London before I was born then my mother moved back to scotland just before I was born with the plan that my father would follow once he'd tied things up down south. Sadly he passed away before he could return and my mother never took me back to London, but one night when I was a child I had a dream that I met my dad and he took me to a pub to meet his friends.

I described the place to my mum the next day, even the route to the pub, what the path was like under tunnels etc and even what kind of glasses they used, the tables, and layout of pub, and my mother said I'd perfectly described a pub they used to go to together in London, even down to the big tunnel they'd need to go under to get there.

I wonder if this was somehow her memory I was dreaming of.

FredQuimby Wed 13-Jun-12 08:51:54

Morning all!

Thanks for all the interesting stories. It's really good to know we're not alone in this weird situation.

I've decided against talking to anyone else about this, as I'm worried that all sorts of my memories will 'come out'. Nothing special, but private things. It's unnerving that very personal ideas, like the random word associations, can be said by anyone else. Also at the moment I'm taking medication for anxiety and I'd be worried that people would think I'm going insane!

Lakota Wed 13-Jun-12 09:20:23

This is so interesting. Not related to your DD as such FredQuimby, but the fact that you associate shapes with names is also intriguing. I only know about this condition through Mumsnet to be honest - but could that be a form of synaesthesia? I know there are other posters who hear colours or associate numbers with personalities etc. It just goes to show that there are all kinds of brain functions which we don't really understand - it doesn't mean it's weird as such.

MabliD Wed 13-Jun-12 09:21:16

I really believe that genetic memory exists. DH has had a similar experience to your DD in that he vividly recalls going to nursery - the building, toys, playgroud, even the rules - except that his memories are of the nursery his father attended in the 60's, and the building itself was demolished long before DH was born. This only came out a couple of years ago, so DH has spent his whole life believing that these memories were his own when it turns out he could never have gone there. He has no memories of his actual nursery, although he recalls his younger brother going there. I don't think it'ssaid the 'woo', I think it's genetic.

Now having said that, there are plenty of stories from DH's family that really are woo... perhaps that's for another thread though. Is there a spooky experiences thread anywhere?

chipmonkey Wed 13-Jun-12 09:41:39

I think it's a bit sad that people can't share these stories without feeling their mental health will be questioned.
There are lots of "woo" stories in my Dad's family but my aunts are reluctant to talk about them. My Dad did and there's one story I would love to ask my aunt about but she freaks out when she thinks about it so I can't.

ViviPru Wed 13-Jun-12 09:51:36

nocluenoclueatall Tue 12-Jun-12 23:56:48
I do feel a very deep connection to him though, like I've known him my whole life, IYKWIM.

That's just it though, you have in a way. Our DNA was in existence long before we were born. On a cellular level, we did experience our parents' lives. I'm going to look into all that hereditary memory stuff.

What a fascinating thread, thank you so much for sharing, OP

chipmonkey Wed 13-Jun-12 12:12:50

But what about those people who remember things from a past life where they are not related to the person in question and it was long before they were born. That can't be DNA.

emmanana Wed 13-Jun-12 12:19:09

Well if you are carrying a girl you are also carrying your grandchildren, so maybe a trace of memory does get passed through somewhere.

I always wonder how animals can be so much more instinctive than humans sometimes - take a newborn lamb, who will be walking within minutes of being born, whereas we have to be taught. How do baby Whales and dolphins instinctlively know how to swim, and surface for air?

catinboots Wed 13-Jun-12 12:24:28

I think little kids are like animals - they are in-tune to so much more than we are. Animals for example running up the mountains when they know a tsunami is coming? They can feel the tiny physical signs which we as humans are desensitised to.

Who says little kids can't pick up on thoughts or memories? Some better than others. And as someone said upthread, that we learn to supress these things as we get older??

Very interesting

Bump.

Gemtubbs Wed 13-Jun-12 16:41:46

This is an amzing thread. Love it. More please. : )

LePinot Wed 13-Jun-12 16:50:27

Ooh my.

I find this enchanting.

smile

LePinot Wed 13-Jun-12 16:53:50

P.S. That you puffin/mole? Sorry OP if it's not, I just got a feeling it was a friend of mine.

Mjtay Wed 13-Jun-12 18:47:03

Do u feel any better about all this op?! Xxx

Aftereightsaremine Wed 13-Jun-12 19:54:49

I have nothing real to add except that when dd was 2 she was quite ill, she told me grandad X was by her bed & she was very scared as he was supposed to be dead. She told me to tell him to go away as she wasn't ready to go with him. A few minutes later she had a febrile convulsion & had to be taken to hospital as she was unconscious for longer than usual. Luckily she can't really remember the incident.

This is probably irrelevant but kind of supports (to me) that lives of the very young and the very old sometimes blend together in an interesting way, I am generally a very un-woo person but this is very important to me (have posted this before if it looks familiar!) My dearly beloved Godmother died the September before last, in the January of the next year I found out I was pregnant - it was a huge unplanned surprise!! It had taken ages to sort her estate out and as well as a very much needed lump sum they found an envelope with my name on with a new baby card with a pic of a pram on the front and the word BRILLIANT!!! inside in the beautiful caligraphy she always used to do. It gave me hope when I felt everything was going wrong. DD was born a year to the day that she died. Makes me a bit weepy thinking about it, but I feel she's still supporting me and I'm so happy now.

Angelico Wed 13-Jun-12 20:36:17

Sherlock that is a lovely story smile My gran died last year and we were always very close. I got pregnant in January and our due date is the day she died, a year to the day. My mum started crying when I told her smile

FfoFfycsecs Wed 13-Jun-12 22:01:17

Emmanana "if you are carrying a girl you are also carrying your grandchildren" For some reason, that sentence brought a tear of joy to my eyes. What an absolutely wonderful way of looking at it.
Sherlock That's a lovely story!

Something happened to me as a child which I don't think about that often. One night, I dreamt a whole life. (good title for a song!) I was about five or six, and I woke up one morning, exhausted, having dreamed a whole life from birth to death. Every little detail. It was so weird. I can only remember snippets from it- Like being a little girl, running down stairs with red carpet. But it was very odd.

God Fy there's a cracking novel about all lives being dreams in others lives somewhere there!

Loving this thread. I am waiting for DD to start talking properly in the hope that she will have some 'former memories' to share with me.

mooliebear Wed 13-Jun-12 22:32:26

My DD1 went through as phase for about a year with her imaginary friend "brother Louie" , we just accepted that is was just a phase, played along with her stories reguarding him, like him coming to tea, having to lay the table with a place included for him, sleeping over and playing with her, never bothered us, until one day last year she said to me, "i know brother Louie is my real brother, he came out of your tummy, a long time ago, he told me" i was lost for words, i had know idea where it came from, i was spooked because i had had an abortion a long long time ago at 16 years old, my DD does not know that, why would she, after that we never heard of brother Louie again?

pantylace Wed 13-Jun-12 22:34:42

When my youngest was about 3 he told me his name was Michael and asked when can he go back to his real mommy and daddy. He was so sincere when he asked. He threw the worlds biggest tantrum when I confirmed I'm his real mother and his real name isn't Michael.

I was really confused by him that day and put it down to a dream he'd had.

pantylace Wed 13-Jun-12 22:35:52

Oh, and it did make me think of re-incarnation, but I get even more confused even contemplating that.

How interesting! Thanks for this.

CuttedUpPear Wed 13-Jun-12 22:53:00

FredQuimby what an amazing and beautiful person your DD is.
I hope you treasure all these moments with her and even manage to record some of them?

I don't think a rational explanation is needed. She is in touch with what most of us have lost.

Thank you for telling us about her.

I'm 44 and still to this day have a memory, that I can still see, from when I was 1 year old. But, it could be my DM's memory as she was holding me at the time and saw what I saw.

I can remember looking out of a window and seeing a bus driving towards us. I remember being frightened that it was going to crash into us and then it suddenly turned and drove past the window. I remember being high up and being able to see people sitting in seats and seeing the roof of the bus. I mentioned it to my DM a few years back and she looked at me like shock

My DP's went on holiday when I was about 1. The cottage they stayed in was on a bus route and from the bedroom window you could see cars and the occasional bus driving towards it and then about 30 yards ahead they would turn and pass directly in front of the cottage as they went past. My DM remembers trying to calm me when I woke and holding me whilst looking out of the window. She is adamant that that is the only place that they have ever stayed in where I could ever have had that view. I've no idea how I remember it but I still do.

BabyGiraffes Wed 13-Jun-12 23:25:49

I 'remember' lying in a white pram in the garden hearing birds and those small propeller planes. Hearing a small plane still makes me think of early summer and makes me feel peaceful. I was born in Feb so I can't have been more than a few months old.

My older dd has several imaginary friends and one of them tells her things she cannot possibly know or have the vocabulary for.

Fascinating thread.

chipmonkey Thu 14-Jun-12 00:25:42

I remember driving into a river or a canal with my parents and the car sinking under the water. That never actually happened in this life but I remember it very vividly. There was a bridge up ahead and the water was running very fast and very high.

Mjtay Thu 14-Jun-12 09:20:42

Absolutely love all these stories. It's wonderful! Xxx

mummymccar Thu 14-Jun-12 09:51:05

I can clearly remember being a baby and being put into the car seat in the back. As I was going passed it I can clearly remember pulling the ball off the top of the gear stick (it was already loose), dropping it, and watching it roll under the front passenger seat. We had that car when I was about 1 and when I told my parents this memory it turns out that every detail was exactly correct.

redrubyshoes Thu 14-Jun-12 09:58:05

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chipmonkey Thu 14-Jun-12 10:04:34

Wow, mummy!

Actually that reminds me of something ds1 said.
I was staying with my Mum when ds1 was around 5 weeks old. My Mum had a tiny little red basin and it was the handiest thing to give ds1 a bath in but it was barely big enough for him even at that size and neither he nor his brothers ever had a bath in it since.

Then when he was around nine he told me that he remembered being bathed in a tiny red tub in my Mum's living room. I had never mentioned the little tub to him.

I wonder about ds1 sometimes. When he was four months old, one day I was changing his nappy and chatting to him. I said "How ARE you!" in a sing-song voice and he said "Ha AH ya!" back to me. Never, ever said it again even though I tried to get him to, many times!

Flaneuse Thu 14-Jun-12 10:41:28

This is such an interesting thread - some fascinating and really moving stories. I'm not at all 'woo', but I do think there is so much we don't understand - and I love the idea of inherited memory through our genes.

When my DS was little, and just starting to talk, he used to tell us about when he was born - he'd say things like "when I was a baby, in the sea, and I came out with a pop". He did indeed "pop" out very fast when he was born, but we had never described pregnancy and birth to him.

Great thread! I have nothing to add though sad

I remember having a book about children like this,

this one

Lent it to a work-mate and never got it back.
Going to read rest of thread now, sorry if it's already been mentioned. Fascinating stuff

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Pinot Mon 20-Aug-12 20:04:52

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kissyfur Mon 20-Aug-12 22:00:15

Thank you for sharing OP and others, fascinating stuff!

sashh Tue 21-Aug-12 07:23:12

Interesting but not uncommon.

In India it is seen as the child being a reincarnation, and in a culture where the majority of people are Hindu it makes sense.

I like the idea of memory being passed through the cells though. I know there are cases of transplant recipients taking on some characteristic of their donor, things like suddenly not liking a food the donor hated.

From what I've read, I think the genetic memory theory is more concerned with certain characteristics and abilities being inherited from our parents/ancestors as opposed to inheriting their actual memories and/or life experiences. I would suggest therefore that OP's experiences can't be explained by this theory...and unfortunately I'm not intelligent enough to offer an alternative smile

sashh Wed 22-Aug-12 05:33:24

Tap dancing

That's interesting. I do a sort of wiggle with my feet to get to sleep. I found out (as an adult) my father and brother do it too so I think it's inherited.

whatsthehurry Fri 24-Aug-12 22:42:19

About 2 years ago, when my gson was 6, we went for a walk a short drive away from where he lives. This was an area I used to live in about 20 years ago, and I was showing him a lovely cottage that I used to lust after in those days. His reply was"one day, I'll take you and show you where I used to live". I replied"you have always lived at mums" - he was born at home, but he replied"no, where I lived before mums' house". His dad, my son, died one month before he was born, and I always wonder whether he was referring to where his dad used to live.
He also had a conversation on one of his mums' old mobiles when he was about 20 months old, and wasn't really talking well. We (his mum and I) overheard him agreeing that ladders are very dangerous, and distinctly heard him say "that's what happened to me". His dad died after falling off a ladder.

Sossiges Fri 24-Aug-12 22:54:11

Going back to read this thread now but have you heard of Carol Bowman? I find her books fascinating. The first two books on this page.

dyzzidi Fri 24-Aug-12 23:13:47

Wow some amazing story's on this thread.

I wonder, up to what age this occurs in children.?Do the memories stay with them.

CakeandRoses Sun 23-Sep-12 23:43:49

lovely thread.

ds (nearly 4) and I have a bit of a connection like this but nowhere near as amazing as yours and your DD's, OP.

ds just kind of reads my mind - the most recent example: I was putting him in his car seat and I was thinking about my hair colour (as you do) and he said "what colour is your hair, mummy?" (it's reddy brown if anyone's interested ;) )

blondebaby111 Thu 27-Sep-12 17:57:24

some children are known to be quite pyschic and then as they get older they lose the ability. I certainly think your dd is one of these children. i find this really fascinating and it sounds like shes definately been here before

Another one recommending Carol Bowman.

I read this one in my teens and it has stayed with me.

Really interesting thread!!

DameEnidsOrange Sat 13-Oct-12 00:01:32

When DS was about 4 he saw a photo of my Mum's childhood home in another country. (He had never been there, and has ASD so had only just started talking)

He looked at it and told her that it was his house that he built when he was her Dad, and went on to describe how hard it was to get the range cooker into the kitchen; talked about the day that they had electricity fitted, the well in the garden that was the water source for the house and some other things that he could never possibly have known.

TigerseyeMum Tue 23-Oct-12 20:37:51

It's fascinating. Reminded me of when I was 8 my grandad died. My cousin, who was 2 years older, dreamt that night about him and told her mum in detail about his shop and the items he sold.

None of us grand kids knew about his early life and work, as far as we knew he had always been a coal miner. My auntie nearly passed out and the family kind of hushed it up as they thought it was so wierd. Of course my cousin could have heard about my granddads shop but she described it in detail as if she had been in it.

It's odd. No explanation at all.

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