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Curses....can they really happen?

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jayzmummy · 03/07/2005 22:17

History =

1990 Me dx with cervical cancer
1991 Me hysterectomy and lost my two babies
1992 Me assaulted whilst at work and ended up loosing job because of PTSD
1993 bad year....dont want to divulge but very very bad year
1994 Me broken leg
1995 House flooded and all personal possessions ruined
1996 DH bad car accident
1997 My dad died and it was another very emotional bad year
1998 DS2 shows signs of Autism and nearly dies after anaphalactic shock
1999 DH father committed suicide
2000 Long and emotional court case
2001 dont want to go there!!!
2002 Me major abdo surgery which went very wrong and resulted in further surgery
2003 DS2 three breaks to arms in one year
2004 Lots of small cr@ppy troubles

So far this year
Jan DH third op on damaged leg...wound became very infected and he was rushed back into ICU
Feb DS2 broke wrist
March Me DVT's in leg
April DS2 broke wrist
May car accident

This months so far

DS1 injured ligaments in left foot and wrecked his chance of placement at football school of excellence.
DH feel down 15ft pit and damaged his bad leg
I found lump in my boob...hospital tomorrow for core biopsy
DS2 fell badly off his bike and has scarred his face
Yesterday DH had another bikeaccident and is now in hospital following sugery....when I left hospital in the early hours of this morning, a taxi ploughed into my car....no driver...hand brake wasnt left on!!! Of all the cars it could have hit....it hit mine.

So can someone curse you?
Someone who told you they knew how to make your life hell?
Someone who said they would make me pay for causing them so much pain?
Someone who said they would make sure I would have "the scars" to remind me of the bad things I did to them?
Someone who said that DH and I would suffer so badly in our lives if we stayed together.
Is this possible?

Can another human being cause all of the above?

Im starting to get a bit freaked by this as a very close friend, who goes to see a psychic told me today, she thinks I have been cursed.

Do curses really excist?

Or is it just life dealing me a shit hand of cards???

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kama · 03/07/2005 22:20

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lilsmum · 03/07/2005 22:21

i dont know about curses tbh, but shit jayzmummy you been through a LOT!!!

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essbee · 03/07/2005 22:22

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Heathcliffscathy · 03/07/2005 22:23

god jayzmummy...i don't know what i think... you poor thing for all the stuff you've been through.

one thing i do believe: if you feel tremendously guilty about something you can kind of create terrible doom in your life, cause you believe you deserve it....

is there something you need to exorcise in terms of feeling ok with a situation? do you believe you did something horrible to this person and so on some level do you think you're getting your just desserts?

no one deserves what you have been through imo.

but i do believe that we create what we believe in deep down.

i had terrible problems physically that had to do with guilt that i felt about some things that happened in my past. when i finally managed to forgive myself, and accept what i had done, the problems (they were proper, going to see a doctor about it physical stuff) just totally disappeared overnight....

i do feel for you, hope you get the advice you need on here...

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jayzmummy · 03/07/2005 22:25

I count my blessings every blooming day....for one I have my wonderful, adorable DH and my beautiful boys. They make me who I am today...a wife and a mother....thats all I have ever wanted to be.

Yeah we have had some rough timess, but others have it a far worse than me.....Im just curious and a little freaked by what my friend has said today....she is sure we have been cursed.

If so then how can we stop the curse....Im not sure if curses are real or not????

My Dad was into spirtitual things. He read the Tarot and had some sort of sense about him. So I dont not beleive that these things can happen but on the same hand Im not sure if they can.

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starlover · 03/07/2005 22:30

personally i don't believe in curses... although i do think that there is a lot of stuff in this world that we just don't know about/understand.

you've been through an awful lot... you really have. I think that you've probably had it a lot worse than some other people, but it's easy to focus on the bad things, especially when someone suggests that you may be cursed!

could you do a similar time-line with GOOD things that have happened?

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Heathcliffscathy · 03/07/2005 22:32

good call starlover

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paolosgirl · 03/07/2005 22:36

OK, this probably means I'm completely flakey, but I kind of do believe in them.....just as I believe in ghosts (have seen one, as has my sister), and other supernatural 'stuff'. Sounding now even flakier...would you consider some sort of anit-curse? I'm not even sure who you would see about it - maybe your friend's psychic?
You sound like you've had an awful time of it...I really hope some good luck and better times come yoour way...

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sobernow · 03/07/2005 22:40

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SaintGeorge · 03/07/2005 22:44

On in between ground here. As many here know, I am a witch and believe in a lot of stuff that some people would think pretty wierd. Never truly believed in curses although if someone believes powerfully enough that it has happened to them, then harm probably is done.

Whatever your beliefs, the power of the mind is amazing and what you really need to do know is get yourself out of the mindset of doom and gloom. Follow starlover's suggestion and do a 'good' timeline.

If you want some suggestions for protection / reflection, even just to make youself feel a bit better, then feel free to email me antlxstew @ yahoo.co.uk (remove spaces).

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jayzmummy · 03/07/2005 22:45

starlover....Ive just done that and there are some really good positive things that have happened. Adoptiing my boys for one....but even that didnt go as easily as it should have!
Even my wedding day was mucked up when someone burnt the church down three days before our wedding.....see what I mean???

The person who said all the horrible things to me was my ex's mother who was a really weird woman. She was deeply upset with me when I called off my marraige to her son and was even more angered when she discovered I had undergone a termination.
She told my DH that we would never be happy whilst we are together and we would pay the price for ruining her sons life...I ditched her son when I met DH because I knew I loved him and not her son.

She told me I would never have children of my own because I had killed her grandchild.That I would be punished for being so evil!!!!

At the time when she said all these things I didnt really worry about them but when I lost my babies and underwent my hysterectomy, her words haunted me.

My friend is a great believer in all things can happen and she said when she saw her psychic yesterday, that she was told her very close friend was cursed and she needed help......this is really freaky!!!

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HappyHuggy · 03/07/2005 22:47

Hi

Ive just asked someone about curses and heres what they said. They said that you can send a curse back to where it came from by belief and thought.

Im not clear on this but please speak to saint george cause she knows what shes talking about.

love and light

huggy
xxx

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Heathcliffscathy · 03/07/2005 22:50

oh jm...you've done nothing wrong....you've just followed your heart and done what you had to.. i'm sure you know that, but do you feel bad about it all....i think that if you do, if you change your mindset, somehow find a way to just wash away that, then you won't feel that that old bag has any possibility of having power over you

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jayzmummy · 03/07/2005 22:56

Hey I feel fine. I tend never to focus on the doom and gloom....lifes to short. Im a live for the here and now sort of person and I really am OK.
All the stuff that we have ben through is minor cpmpared to what other pole have endured. I blessed with the love of a wonderful man and have my boys.

It's just a bit freaky how all thses things have happened to us. fior instance take yesterday.....why the accident? It was so flukey how it happened....why of all the cars in the car park that it could have hit did it hit mine???? The car actually had to swerve in its tracks to hit my car and how that happened without anyone controlling the steering wheel heaven knows?????

And why did my friend....who knows nothing about the events that have happened in this house over the past 24 hours suddenly phone me up out of the blue and say she has been told that her close friend has a curse and needs help????

This is far too weird for me.

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SaintGeorge · 03/07/2005 22:56

sobernow is right - the traumas have an unfortunate way of sticking.
I can list the precise dates of all the crap in my life but I am extremely vague on the beautiful stuff that has happened - but I am sure it is there in equal measure.

And I second her evaluation of your 'friend' as well.

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hakunamatata · 03/07/2005 22:58

Yes, I think they can but remember that as ye sow, so shall ye reap or the boomerang effect: everything you do comes back to you. Are you religious? why not ask for a blessing? otherwise, consider that life has dealt you a shit hand of cards & get on with it.

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sobernow · 03/07/2005 22:59

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hakunamatata · 03/07/2005 23:03

a bit harsh. I like what the others have said about thinking of the positive. Please make us a list of all the good things that have happened to you. Meanwhile, I send you light & positive energy.

xx

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jayzmummy · 03/07/2005 23:10

TBH its never really concerned me the things that she said to me. I didnt even have any guilt feeling about the termination....and that probably makes me sound like a hard face cow....but I was only 18 and neither of us wanted the responsiblity of a child. We were both far to involved with our studies.

The only time her words came back to me was when I was ill and I remembered how angry she was with me. I did thik for one moment that maybe I was being punished....but soon got over it.

TBH I never thought about how all the bad things that have happened in our lives have followed on one from another until tonight when my friend called.

She started her converstaion with me by telling me that she knew there had been something that had happened over the weekend in our house that was bad. Then told me about the psychic.....I then told her about the accident and the car....she doesnt know about my hospital appointment tomorrow or my lump.

sobernow...what does atavistic mean????

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hakunamatata · 03/07/2005 23:12

p.s. please oh please stay away from psychics! from one who's been there, done that. and regretted it.

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HappyHuggy · 03/07/2005 23:15

dictonery definition (had to look it up cause i didnt know either )

of behaviour) happening because of a very old natural and basic habit from the distant past, not because of a conscious decision or present need or usefulness:

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