DD and her "seeing things"... again!

[Flamebat]

Before I start, please can the people telling me about overactive imaginations, and that I am insane leave via exits here and here

Right... quick recap.

Always had weird goings on with DD... tucked in by "no-one" as a baby, dummy put back in, laughing alone in a room (not a chatter to herself kind of baby). Got older - smiling and saying hello when the lounge door opened - different sort of opening to breezes.

The door stopped opening about 12 months ago, and she started waking in the night upset about "them", and me asking "them" to go to bed now and let her sleep seemed to work. "They" were nearly always in the same corner of her bedroom ceiling.

Then we found her sat bolt upright in bed swaying strangely, eyes wide open.

Then "bad fairies" (language developing by then...) were waking her and making her have bad dreams. Cleansing spell cleared the bad fairies, and my moods and the house got happier.

My moods have dipped, and tonight she told me about the "ghost" (again, more language skills) in the bedroom - that same corner. It turns out she told DH last night too.

Part of me is inclined to brush it off because two of her fave bedtime stories have a ghost in them, but the positioning of him, plus my spiralling moods are starting to make me wonder.

It has always felt a friendly presence around her, if not always a welcome one iyswim.

What do you think we should do? Another cleansing and see if we can keep it at bay a while longer? DH suggested asking her to find out its name (I think he is still wondering if it is his Nan - it all started the first time we stayed at his Nan's old house, she has never given it a sex...).

I don't think it would contact me even if knew how to try (considered just saying that I am ready now - I have shut things out over the past few years, so I know that "someone" is wanting me).

Maybe a trip to church (spiritualist) would help us find some answers???

I dunno... musing aloud really!!!

[southeastastra]

woo you need expat and stg! it's very strange

[lulumama]

babylulu - during her two o clock night feed...would stop and look up to the same spot in her room...when she could smile she would smile....coincided with a breezey feeling over my feet too....

our house definitely has extra inhabitants! so no, i don't think you are insane!

children definitely more open to these things....my 'abilities' fading as i get older....and they were never that strong to begin with....

[SSSandy]

I wouldn't say it's a beneficient being TBH if dd is upset by what she experiences, uses words like "bad fairies", wants you to tell them to go etc. Can she sleep in a different room or is this the only possiblity you have?

[thefreakyflumpsmum]

hi flamebat..I would try another cleansing and also go to a spiritualist church and see if someone will help.
I agree that her now being able to tell you theyre bad fairies means she might not be so comfortable with them.

[lulumama]

do you cleanse with sage...or am i getting confused??

[pianomummy]

Depends what your personal beliefs are.

If it were me I'd have a priest perform an exorcism. I'd definitely do something, though, rather than ignore it.

[headonaspiker]

I am Mrs Sceptic me...but I don't think you are insane. Don't think I would encourage communication with it myself.

If it was me I'd read up on the child psychology aspect, I dunno, maybe it's her way of expressing...something?? Does it follow her around? How old is she?

(not much help am I? sorry. Do feel for you.)

[Flamebat]

All faires are bad to her... they swiped her dummies and the christmas tree

I am starting to wonder if we have more than one thing though - the original one (possibly nan) was definately nice, but yes, you're right, the wanting them to go away plus my moods smacks of less friendly.

Talking to my mum we are trying to work out chicken/egg scenario - are my moods off because they come, or do my moods bring them???

I cleanse with various things - got an exciting new smudging kit that i can use.

[lulumama]

i smudged the house when we moved......!

[Flamebat]

I'm not too sure if it follows her around, she seems to see different things in different places - Psychomum's house we've had a few incidents at... but I have there too.

I don't think changing rooms will help because I get the feeling that within this building it will be where she is.

[SSSpooky]

I would want to get rid of it TBH

[SSSpooky]

I mean you THINK it may be the grandmother which would be non-threatening and which you seem happy with but you don't know, it could be anyone/anything.

[SamhainWitch]

Cleanse her room again Flamey, but when you get a chance and some quiet time on your own try going in there to do some meditation.

When you talk to her about it (never raise the subject, just respond when she does) make sure you subtly slide in a few questions about who it might be. Simple things like gender and name to start with.

If it is disturbing her sleep, try a dream catcher - or make something yourself that she can hang over her bed (a spell bag or similiar). Involve her in the making and explain that when she hangs it up, the visitors should know that she wants to sleep and leave her alone.

[hub2dee]

Hi flamebat, I am a hardnosed sceptical git. My dd (15 months) has stared into vacant space, has fixated on one spot in the room, looked at an opening door etc. and I think it means absolutely nothing ! Babies do some funny things IM(verylimited)E. If she reads stories about ghosts, or you speak about ghosts, I would imagine they would be integrated into her language and conciousness. If you explain that fairies have swiped dummies or that fairies took away the Christmas tree after the twelve days are over (or whatever), then I imagine those too would be integrated into her vocabulary and also inform the imaginative stories and ideas her exploding conciousness and intelligent mind are creating every second of the day !

If you want to take her to a spiritualist, or a priest, or a psychic, or have you house cleansed or smudged that is of course up to you, and you may well see all kinds of results afterwards that you attribute to these people / activities, but in my opinion that would be to mistake correlation with 'cause and effect'. I appreciate you, and possibly many others, will disagree, but each to their own !

Hope you're not offended by my opinion, feel free to disregard, but I think this is more abhout your attributing feelings and beliefs you have onto your child IYSWIM... We all do this, it is part of education and nurturing, but if these feelings / phenomena are intriguing or bothering you, maybe you could spend some time exploring this site which tries to explain / deconstruct / explore paranormal phenomena from a, ahem, sceptical, perspective !

Good luck, and I hope everything resolves to your satisfaction and that dd sleeps well.

[Flamebat]

Didn't put the church bit very well - I was meaning that I would go to a service on the chance that it is someone trying to contact me.

She will probably spend some time with her Gran on Saturday so I will get it smudged then and try and lose DS for a while to meditate.

I bought everything to make dreamcatchers months ago - half term next week, so I will try and get my mum to take DS for a couple of hours so we can have some time alone to make them

[damewashalot]

Hi flame, struggling to work out how to explain my take on this as I know me are coming from very different places but here go In your situation, as a christian my instinct would be to pray in the room for protection for B from whatever may be there and to claim that place as yours and therefore out of bounds for whatever is scaring her. I know you might come back to me saying you don't believe in God but the way I see it, everything in the universe has an opposite there's that whole balance thing going on, so if there is bad stuff out there there must be good stuff too to balance it out so why not God?
I shall shut up now before you decide I'm a religious freak
Oh and BTW I used to see all sorts of stuff when I was little including witches in my room at night but I grew out of it.

[SamhainWitch]

Flame and I are both witches damewashalot.

[fransmom]

how can i make dreamcatchers? dd used to have quite a few bad dreams til i said go away and asked her nans to look after her.

think atmosphere between me and p isn't helping but he at work til late tonite so things lot better and more relaxed.

[SamhainWitch]

Probably quicker and easier to buy one fransmom.

Loads on EBay

[mustcackleorsuckbloodmore]

Flame; maybe we should see if she and ds1 can see each others ghosters? That would be very interesting indeed. And I'd love to know if his are the same thing I saw at the foot of the stairs.Or if he's just being a child.

[fransmom]

thanx, would still like to try and make one tho

[mumchez]

flame - have you tried asking her to draw what she sees?? or if she is to young, you draw?? as in ask her blonde hair or brow hair? looks like mummy/aunty etc.?? might be someone, like you said, trying to contact you?? sorry if thats no help just a suggestion though!!

[SamhainWitch]

Some great sites , about the history, folklore and how to make a dreamcatcher.

This looks the easiest

[fransmom]

thank you, willl look tomorrow getting tired now