hideous hymns, vocal vicars and theatrical thuribles. Religious Chat Thread Number 6!

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nickelbabe Sun 17-Feb-13 19:24:28

Welcome to the Religion Chat thread.
We're mostly Christians, but all are welcome.
a lovely soace to talk about church life, spiritual journeys and stuff in general.
It's not about debate, it's about chat.
Come oldies and newbies!

this is the previous thread

jaynebxl Mon 18-Feb-13 13:14:58

Ah I was pretty sure it was still going on.

thanksamillion Mon 18-Feb-13 14:46:09

Hello, just checking in to the new thread.

nickelbabe Mon 18-Feb-13 15:26:29

I got an email in reply to my crazy homework from NV.
He had obviously read it Saturday night (according to the email reply)
"Not crazy!
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this - very helpful. "

ahem.
blush

Yay nickel I think NV is going to be a real blessing for your parish! smile

I want to start up a group for youngsters aged 13+ in the parish, as youth club finishes when they turn 14. Haven't figured out content/activities yet though or when to hold it.

niminypiminy Mon 18-Feb-13 15:59:22

nickel that's excellent! I agree he is clearly A Good Thing.

nickelbabe Mon 18-Feb-13 16:02:35

a real blessing until something goes horribly wrong.

It just seems too-good-to-be-true at the moment.

Oh niminy you were too quick, was going to write <clap clap> wink

nickelbabe Mon 18-Feb-13 16:40:31

Mary
It might be helpful to contact other churches and ask them what they do and how it works and whether it is successful

ooh, I'm really excited now, I do hope you do it!

nickelbabe Mon 18-Feb-13 17:33:45

you filled my thread with Graham Kendrick lyrics

i don't love any of you anymore.
<sulks>

niminypiminy Mon 18-Feb-13 18:15:45

Aww, it was only in fun. We still love you.

(Sorry, blue I got carried away blush)

nickelbabe Mon 18-Feb-13 18:35:13

ah now the <clap clap> thing makes sense!

it should be <clap-cl-clap> though.

SESthebrave Mon 18-Feb-13 21:12:39

Mary - how exciting! I agree, it could be a brilliant vocation. FWIW, my personal experience as a teenager was positive when we were allowed to discuss things in an open environment where we would be respected, challlenged and affirmed. For example topics such as abortion, Jesus' divinity & humanity, Justice & Peace issues.

Re confession, it was something I thought a lot about when becoming RC and I can really see the benefits and the riches it brings. It is often done face to face now and not behind a grille. You normally have the option. Every priest I've ever spoken to has spoken very humbly about it. It is amazing to hear the words of absolution and I find the preparation and examination of conscience part of the sacrament extremely helpful. What I find hard is purely a personal thing as I worry that it can become a bit of a counselling session. That in itself is not necessarily a bad thing but I had a bad experience when at uni. My ex BF threatened me with a knife and I was beating myself up because I couldn't forgive him. A friend recommended a Christian counsellor. At the 2nd session, on finding out my Dad was an alcoholic, she suggested that he had abused me as a child. When I told her that I really didn't think he had, she suggested that I had blocked the memory.
I've never really told anyone that so excuse me for offloading but that's why I have an issue with Confession.

MaryBS Mon 18-Feb-13 21:20:54

No seriously, its only what I said I'll do if I have to!

MadHairDay Mon 18-Feb-13 21:54:20

I love that blog you posted, niminy smile

I've possibly done the melty nicey phase and the dark depressive phase. There's room for both, I think, as long as done from a genuine spirit. The problem with the gushy Jesus one is that it's been overdone as a hypocritical stereotype. People can actaully be gushy in a meaningful way, if their lives reflect it, and if it listens to other people, iyswim.

I don't agree that some of the stuff is missing the mark to try and be in with the kids nickel, I think a lot of it now is authentic and just where they are at. My dd responds so well to stuff like Soul Survivor and loves that type of worship, I can see that not all would, and there needs to be stuff for them too. But by and large I think the culture now is more for that kind of thing and that is what draws them in. smile

Hahaha at the Graham lyrics filling up the thread grin

SES that's a horrible memory for you sad I can see why you are not sure about confession. Unfortunately, one person can mess things up. Not at all what you needed at the time sad

nickelbabe Mon 18-Feb-13 22:05:43

mhd. if a lot of it is authentic and just where they are at then it follows that some of it isn't wink

sorry mary, you've signed up now! winkgrin

niminypiminy Mon 18-Feb-13 22:20:01

I'm all a-flutter! I've just written to ask if I can go to the regional ministerial training course open day next month! That was such a difficult thing to do -- like Indiana Jones putting his foot out over the chasm -- all my cautiousness is telling me that I'll never get selected, and that I'm just setting myself up for an almighty (sorry, didn't think of the pun there, the word just came out) disappointment -- it's taken me ages to pluck up the courage and send the email, and to say in it that I hope to start training in the autumn.

How exciting! Go for it.

nickelbabe Tue 19-Feb-13 08:43:55

yeay! you've got to go for it smile
well done and good luck

MadHairDay Tue 19-Feb-13 10:04:50

Yay! That's brilliant niminy. Go for it, you'll be brilliant smile

OK nickel, yes that follows. Was just feeling fairly down last night and felt a bit stroppy. Ignore me.... grin

hiddenhome Tue 19-Feb-13 22:38:34

SESthebrave that was so unprofessional of that counsellor sad I find that, in confession, the priest will answer any questions you have about improving your faith and avoiding sin in the future, but wouldn't foist stuff like that onto you.

niminypiminy Tue 19-Feb-13 22:49:37

MHD hope you have been feeling better today.

hiddenhome Tue 19-Feb-13 22:56:39

I am failing in my Lent promises sad I promised not to want to choke the living crap out of people have bad thoughts about people, but did a long shift yesterday and everything just came flooding in and I failed. Work is my achilles heel.

niminypiminy Tue 19-Feb-13 23:05:48

hiddenhome don't be sad: we all fail, all the time. I've managed precisely no days doing my 'no sugar' promise -- dh has even given up teasing me.

I came across this on another (nautically themed Christian) forum -- it was about why we always get annoyed by people in church, but it could apply to anywhere, really. I find it very comforting:

"Sure the Church lets me down. It's full of bastards, and has 2000 years of bastardry in its history. But I'm a bastard too. That's why I need Jesus. He isn't."

hiddenhome Tue 19-Feb-13 23:18:35

ha, ha I like that niminypiminy smile

jaynebxl Wed 20-Feb-13 07:29:06

SES I'm appalled at that counsellor.

Niminy what is that day? Is it with a view to vicar training or something?

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