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Blocks from progression of positive life

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melsy · 19/10/2005 20:23

I struggle with this area of life , sometimes fears are subconcious and play out in behaviors I am unaware of. Others stop me living or following the path I THINK & FEEL I should take and can be a totally concious feeling which can perpetuate and lead on to other negative spheres.

The thing I want to learn and be able to practise is how to unblock the fears and get to the bottom of why they are there. Quite a task to do on your own, escpecially if combined deeply routed issues.

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melsy · 19/10/2005 20:29

there started a thread on fear and may be should have said so !

Now I fear that no one will come here and chat with me !!

There you are my 1st few fears incarnate:
FEAR OF BEING WRONG
FEAR OF BEING BORING
FEAR OF BEING MISUNDERSTOOD

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Donbean · 19/10/2005 20:31

This isnt boring, just explain a bit more or be more specific hun.

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Donbean · 19/10/2005 20:35

No, ok,I recently did a counselling course and this was invaluable in that it opened up a world of useful techniques to open some one up to discovering blocks to having a happy, fulfilling life.
What do you think about counselling?
Do these blocks genuinely prevent you from having a happy fulfilling life?

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melsy · 19/10/2005 20:42

was replying to you and others on my sleep thread.

not very articulate tonight, normally dont have problem getting things accross , just a bit zonked tonight. last nights dd awakenings left me sitting at the top of my stairs hand in head aimlessly and she had gone to sleep.

OOOP GOING OFF TOPIC ON MY OWN THREAD !!

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melsy · 19/10/2005 20:45

Ive done phscyhotherapy and also hypnotherapy. Im out of practise with some of what I was taught by hypnotherapist. Ive just become cynical with my spiritual side and frustrated that old anxietys and worries are showing themselves again.

I suppose my 1st post was a bit cryptic and not saying much at all. Possibly just not in frame of mind.

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melsy · 19/10/2005 20:46

and yes I do think some of these blocks stop me from letting my life flow comfortably for me.

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melsy · 19/10/2005 20:50

hand in head LOL !!! see inarticualation tonight !

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Donbean · 19/10/2005 20:51

OMG! Its chronic fatigue......its absolutely 100% without question exhaustion that doesnt allow you to cope with things and weakens your defenses and strengths...and that includes your spiritual strengths...BINGO!
This most certainly is absolutely true for me, i am not even half the personality i was 2 years ago!
Its just occured to me that i am speaking to you on the sleep thread! DOH! I am so rubbish and my powers of observation are miniscual!!!!!

So sorry, ive just noticed!

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melsy · 19/10/2005 20:56

lol my friend !!!

Im so zonked its not a joke anymore, I knew many many weeks ago I was suffering ,I need to have severe relax and mong out time and can only seem to do that if I go to some spa were Im FORCED to stop stop stop, but for some reason I have this adrenalin mix up and cant stop and rest. Im sooooooo wired all the time, Im now having a drink every night.

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glitterfairy · 20/10/2005 16:28

Hello Melsy how on earth are you? So much seems to have happened to us both in so short a time. I get hyper when stressed and then have periods of extremem fatigue am in one now but that is probably more to do with white wine at lunch time!

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melsy · 20/10/2005 19:36

Im ok , sort of. Not on any pills of any kind so really I should be pleased and proud , but as Donbean said chronic tiredness seems to be bringing to me old demons , either that or my higher being think its time to have a look at things again , but Im struggling with much introspection. I seem to need shallow escapism of late.

How are you mores to the point? I think yuor life took more of a turn than mine. I did leave you a message some time ago iwshing you well over the difficult times. Its only the last couple of weeks that Ive been at home a little more , so bakc to mn I go!!!


Weres that paps, I see her floating above here and looking but not coming in ??????????????????????


I will eventualy try and make more sense of my 1st posting, as its niggling me that I havent got out what I wanted to express !

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melsy · 20/10/2005 19:40

I often think the hyperness is adrenalin in confusion and probably a body out of balance, like an extreme of one emotion/condition creates this imbalance. Its a real skill to balance(breathing correctly/doing different things to the norm/yoga/mediation/good diet raw foods and so much more), and I find it takes effort, although one that with repeat practise actually becomes the norm, but its that applying oneself to it that is hard.

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Papillon · 21/10/2005 19:52

Melsy see my post in the Yurt. I think there is some spiritual food for thought there for you

Are you doing the Love & Power Journal? On that site people often talk about being the Stalker. You can stalk yourself as well as others. Stalk your behaviours, even if you feel your fear to be subconscious your actions are evident and you can stalk and watch them. Take note of them mentally or write them down.

We study other people and judge them, analyse them, it is truely insightful when we study ourselves.

Perhaps you might think to post what you have posted here on the other site, there are alot of wise people there who may you never know offer you some light.

I have some other thoughts, but will let you digest this and give my fingers a rest!

xxxx

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melsy · 21/10/2005 20:05

Is it a suggestion that I am wanting/needing too much of others? Or that Im expecting to much of myself(which is always the case), My stomach turns at your hints that may be I am stalking people, yourself may be ? Im not sure, Im trying to read between things and inferences and trying not to take them so literally. Im afraid my literary perceptions are not honed at the moment.

Im afraid that my openess of thought , sometimes wil get me in trouble. May be that is the trouble.

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melsy · 21/10/2005 20:07

the nightingale rests for nine months , is this a suggestion that I should allow myself rest from introspection for some time, so as to make sure that when I use my mental tools they are used well and with proper intent ?

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Papillon · 21/10/2005 20:14

Like the word Power, Stalking gets bad connotations.

I imply stalking in a positive manner, to follow your own movements, to watch your own actions. This kind of stalking is not obsessive, dangerous or wrong. It is a method of awareness of yourself, how you act/ react and how others also respond to life.

If what I said in my earlier post or now does not resonate within you and makes you feel fear, you can either dismiss it, send it away or think and feel about why it makes you feel fear?

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Papillon · 21/10/2005 20:19

You mentioned that you almost have to force yourself to STOP - overdrive leads to fatigue. If you try and understand something or do something when overtired, ones perception can cloud ones emotions and judgement.

I was very tired yesterday, so I took some time out! Realising the need to look after yourself helps you loosen the bonds of fear of being wrong, boring or misunderstood. Because you stand up for yourself and your needs.

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melsy · 21/10/2005 20:27

Thank you for coming back on here and replying to me paps. The last thing you need is to hand hold me through current worries of mine. Im being cryptic cos I dont feel I can be open on here.

I do feel crtain reactions to the words , but am feeling inhibited to share them on here, as they have an intense emotional repercutions(sp?).

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glitterfairy · 22/10/2005 07:23

Melsy thanks for your messages.

Being positive and reflecting/crating a good life does indeed take effort and courage.

I know that I get energised through others and then I reflect within that energy on my own later. I draw much of my support from going out doing different things and being with new and stimulating people.

I know if I stay in and fester then that is what happens inside as well. I like the idea of stalking myself too. I have found neuro linguistics pretty useful. Thinking about states of mind. Even being depressed takes an effort in and of ourselves in order to continue in that state.

I think we are often more responsible for our own mental states than we admit and by being clear about why we are behaving or feeling certain ways makes it clear how to change.

I switch mental pictures now quite often and try to think about things which make me positive rather than negative making the positive picture brighter and more resonant.

Whilst I discount some of his stuff Anthony Robbins and unlimited power has been good to read.

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melsy · 22/10/2005 09:31

Morning Glitter, lovely to "see" you.

Yes to be mindful of actions and sort of call yourslf on behaviours is key and yes we are responsible for our mindset , but often its a learned behaviour/mindset brought on by experiences and has to be unlearnt. I find that quite hard to do alone when these behavoirs have been deeply routed for years and years. My hypnotherapy taught me a little of the skill were by you catch yuorself in old behaviours and try and be concious of changing the view/behvaiour for a new learned one. I think its a case of becoming very very self aware, learning by mistake and reviewing bad beheviours (or ones that dont serve one well), and then using this information to change it for the better. Problem is I have all the answers , but struggle to put it ito real practise and often If I catch myself repeating bad behaviours I then vex and stress about it , seemingly unable to come out of the cycle of being anxious about it & unable to reconcile it inside.

I am very intrested in NLP , as this is similar to CBT and its all about rewiring the mind. When did you start NLP , is it what you went through with dh that took you that way ? What do you think about Paul Mckenna ?

Is meditation, visualisation a form of CBT in itself ,albeit a more spiritual one , in that it one concentrates on positive thought and changing mind views?

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