To ask you to please help these 2 little girls stay in the UK, they face FGM in Nigeria

(177 Posts)
Topaz25 Tue 22-Apr-14 21:18:30

This petition really moved me, please sign and share:
https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/uk-border-agency-please-review-the-fresh-evidence-submitted-for-afusat-saliu-s-asylum-case-properly

"Afusat Saliu, faces being returned to Nigeria. She has removal directions for 25th April. If she goes back, there is a real risk of forcible FGM on her daughters. She fled to the UK when her step-mother expressed a wish to have her daughter Bassy cut. Bassy will be four in May; two year old Rashidat was born in London - Afusat fled while she was heavily pregnant.

In Afusat's village, FGM is usually performed on babies, which is when Afusat herself was cut. If she is made to return and her family catch up with her, it is likely that she will be powerless to protect them from being mutilated. Afusat is also in danger as she escaped a forced marriage to a man 40 years her senior to whom her family is indebted."

MummyPigsFatTummy Wed 23-Apr-14 14:32:48

Impatient - personally, I would be happy for the Home Office to reconsider this case over and over again until they come to the decision that this family should not be sent back. And I don't mind about delay to other cases because presumably the people involved in those cases are safely over here too while their cases are being delayed and not being tortured or mutilated wherever they escaped from.

And like lionheart I too would be proud if we advertised Britain as a safe place for women and girls who need to escape FGM. Sadly, from all the other reports we here about families arranging for FGM to take place here, it seems it would be false advertising at the moment sad

Jesuisunepapillon Wed 23-Apr-14 14:40:42

Some responses on here are horrendous. Humans are mind bogglingly horrible sometimes.

Impatientismymiddlename Wed 23-Apr-14 14:41:42

And I don't mind about delay to other cases because presumably the people involved in those cases are safely over here too while their cases are being delayed and not being tortured or mutilated wherever they escaped from.

That isn't true, because like this family people can appeal even after they have been returned to their home country. Some of those cases do get overturned and the people come back. I am more than happy for those people assessed as most in need of asylum to be granted leave to stay here in Britain, but I don't think we can simplify the assessment process without opening the floodgates.

MinesAPintOfTea Wed 23-Apr-14 14:52:20

I haven't signed because I don't think that asylum decisions should be affected by how photogenic/media savvy the asylum seekers are. I do however intend to add FOWARD to my monthly charity donations when I start my new job.

I suggest everyone who feels for the plight of these girls sends £1 to them instead. It will hopefully help more African girls avoid FGM and child marriage.

MummyPigsFatTummy Wed 23-Apr-14 15:00:57

Thanks for that link Mines - I will do the same and agree it would be benefical for people to donate.

I don't see that making a donation and signing a petition need to be mutually exclusive, however, and I would also like these two children to be spared FGM if at all possible, as well as all the other millions who will hopefully be spared in the future if groups like FORWARD and others are successful.

Impatientismymiddlename Wed 23-Apr-14 15:25:14

Minesapint: I will also be making a donation to forward and will be checking if any volunteers are needed for FGM charities in my area. I will not sign the petition though because I trust our home office to grant asylum to those who need it most.

Roshbegosh Wed 23-Apr-14 15:29:44

I think we do need to support the charity to help those at risk of this utterly barbaric practice but it is insane to suggest that we should provide a safe haven for all the millions of families in the world with a child at risk of FGM. Really lionheart where would you house them all for a start?

MinesAPintOfTea Wed 23-Apr-14 15:47:12

Its not my link: someone put it up a page or so back and I thought it was worth repeating rather than just putting my statement about why I'm not signing. I have also checked the charity commission website and it looks legit.

Signing and donating are of course not mutually exclusive, but its perfectly possible to feel sympathy for their plight and want to do something to help without thinking that the appropriate something is to try to make the decision-process be influenced by public opinion/the media rather than objectively fair according to the law. You are free to disagree and think that the information in the public domain suggests that the decision to remove from the UK is unjust.

wannaBe Wed 23-Apr-14 18:21:20

it is insane to suggest that the decision to grant asylum to people should be based on public opinion. This isn't Disney where every poor person's wish can come true and we can help them all, currently we are cutting back services to our own citizens, the disabled, the elderly, the poor, we simply cannot accommodate everyone who has had or might have a hard time in their own country.

nickelbabe Wed 23-Apr-14 21:47:52

I personally couldn't give a flying fuck if the floodgates were opened onnthe back of this.

I do NOT want a girl to be mutilated because I decided my place in a school was more important.

Not in MY name

zippey Thu 24-Apr-14 01:21:25

I agree with nickelbabe. Its not about which country we were lucky or unlucky to have been born in.

We are all people of the world.

Let people be free to live and be where they want.

TaraKnowles Thu 24-Apr-14 02:23:29

How on the earth is the need for housing, education, free on point of delivery health care more important than protecting children from abuse?

And the UK is not the only destination for asylum seekers.

Roshbegosh Thu 24-Apr-14 07:41:16

Yes zippy that would work. Ha ha.

Meglet Thu 24-Apr-14 07:51:23

Signed. And what nickelbabe said.

JimmyCorkhill Thu 24-Apr-14 08:18:09

Signed.

lionheart Fri 25-Apr-14 13:03:57

latest

Not good at all.

zippey Fri 25-Apr-14 15:50:56

Shame on the UK Home Office.

I just think that nobody should be subjected to FGM - black or white, young or old, UK citizen or Worldwide citizen.

nickelbabe Fri 25-Apr-14 17:32:40

how on earth is she going to get away from her family? sad

they'll find her - their family reputation is badly at risk, refusing marriage and refusing fgm when.it's widely believed to be important.
they believe in the family reputation.enough that I'm convinced they'll hunt her down.

wannaBe Fri 25-Apr-14 17:59:32

so just how much extra tax are people prepared to pay to allow for the extra 130 million women who could potentially come and live here then?

It's not about a school place or a house, it is in fact far more fundamental than that. And we just don't have the resources to ccommodate everyone, and there has to be a system which is not based on emotional responses...

SinisterBuggyMonth Fri 25-Apr-14 18:55:19

Christ thats heartbreaking sad

ProcessYellowC Sat 26-Apr-14 01:43:06
Topaz25 Sat 26-Apr-14 09:46:08

That's great news ProcessYellowC Thank you to everyone who signed, let's keep sharing just in case!

ProcessYellowC Sat 26-Apr-14 10:25:38

Yes Topaz, thanks for starting the thread. It's only a temporary reprieve as far as I can tell. Change.org have emailed asking for me to email Theresa May but I am not convinced that bombarding her inbox would help?

Topaz25 Sat 26-Apr-14 10:25:47

This case is not setting a new precedent, each case is assessed individually and the UN and EU already recognise the risk of FGM as grounds for asylum. The UK has also taken a strong anti FGM stance. So saving these 2 girls is consistent with current policy and does not change the rules or open the gate for an extra 130 million women. Hopefully in the future more can be done to protect girls from FGM in their own country but that will be too late for these two little girls.

Topaz25 Sat 26-Apr-14 10:27:17

Sorry that was a response to wannaBe

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