Police inaction on Ian Watkins child abuse complaints epetition

(15 Posts)
TheGroganator Sat 21-Dec-13 15:29:06

South Wales police did nothing as Ian Watkins raped an 11 month old baby and abused a 5 year old girl,among at 13 charges of abuse he later admitted to in court.
This was despite 8 complains, including video footage from Watkin's ex partner and 5 alerts from other police jurisdictions. http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/58512
This petition demands a root and branch overhaul of police protocols for handling sexual abuse and domestic violence claims.
10,000 signatures gets a reply from the government concerned, 100,000 a House of Commons debate.
I have set out in the petition suggestions for reform, including mandatory schools relationship education, a non police monitoring body to log every single complaint made on these issues with details of police response and of course mandatory education for police on sexual abuse/ domestic violence handling.
Many lives have been lost and blighted already but in the memory of those so criminally failed by police let us at least try to stop it ever happening again. So please sign the petition and most importantly share on all your networks so that we the public have our voices heard on this issue.

scottishmummy Sat 21-Dec-13 22:23:59
SeaSickSal Sat 21-Dec-13 22:51:27

That is a very poorly constructed petition and badly thought out.

The main thing that came out of the Ian Watkins case was that if an allegation of someone holding child porn is made they police should be able to seize the computer equipment of the person who is alleged to have done it without needing futher corroborating evidence to get a magistrates order for the search.

But that petition is mainly a load of waffle and doesn't address that important issue.

TheGroganator Sun 22-Dec-13 03:15:42

Hi, Am having trouble posting the link atm but will sort it out tomorrow. Ellie

TheGroganator Sun 22-Dec-13 03:25:18

Thanks, that's a useful point.
My goal through the petition is to generate a discussion which will be the basis for formulating new protocols which will address all aspects of police approach.
The petition itself is a statement of suggestions for reform with the intent that the Home Office in consultation with other relevant agencies would formulate and draft new protocols.
Ellie

caroldecker Sun 22-Dec-13 03:27:46

seasicksal

That means i say you have child porn because i wnat to piss you off, the police come and take all your IT equipment for x months to check - you happy with that?

CynicalandSmug Sun 22-Dec-13 07:12:28

On my god, but what about all the false allegations that are made? Believe me it happens frequently. People can be very malicious, accusations of rape, child abuse, possession/distribution of indecent images can be incredibly destructive for an innocent party. Care must be taken.

Greythorne Sun 22-Dec-13 07:15:01

A simpler petition will be more effective I think.

Onesleeptillwembley Sun 22-Dec-13 07:37:14

No. The petition is not thought out or practical at all.

fatlazymummy Sun 22-Dec-13 08:25:42

Isn't this already being investigated?

JulieJingleBellsMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 22-Dec-13 11:58:20

Hi,

We don't mind folk posting petitions but we're going to trundle this one over to the petitions noticeboard.

MNHQ

TheGroganator Sun 22-Dec-13 22:56:04

Yes this case is being investigated as hundreds of others have been.The usual outcome of such investigations is 'Lessons have been learned'.
Well clearly they haven't been, if as in this case police received at least 13 recorded pieces of information 're Ian Watkins abuse, including video evidence but did nothing for 4 years.
If they had acted sooner an 11 month old baby may not have been raped, a five year old girl may not have been abused, as well as numerous others.
So the aim of the petition is to get 100,000 signatures and a House of Commons debate. This would be with the aim of totally overhauling how police deal with these complaints.
Police themselves need to be educated to take abuse of women and children seriously !
New protocols need to be formulated with the help of victim support agencies ie NSPCC, Childline, Refuge, Women's Aid.
The COS itself needs to be educated re these cases.
Education packages need to be made mandatory in schools covering how to recognize the difference between healthy and unhealthy/abusive relationships.
And a separate, non -police monitoring body needs to be set up where every such complaint and its outcome is logged, so no child is again raped or no woman again murdered by a partner while police ignore complaints.
We really can't rely on the IPCC and police bodies to reform themselves.
So we either get up, campaign, take control ourselves if we actually really WANT to prevent this happening again.!

TheGroganator Mon 23-Dec-13 08:12:21

This allegations re large numbers of false allegations is a myth geared to silence people speaking out on child sex abuse and domestic violence.
The numbers of false allegations are miniscule and outweighed hundreds of times by the numbers of complaints to police where nothing is done.
And even if there are some false allegations, this doesn't excuse police not responding to complaints.
Do you think they were right not to respond to the complaints re Ian Watkins for four years.They were given video evidence ! ! Are you comfortable that they effectively, by their inaction, allowed an 11 month old baby to be raped ?
What do you suggest we do ? Nothing ! !
What are you doing ?

TheGroganator Mon 23-Dec-13 08:13:39

How would you suggest cwe should word it ?
What are you doing about it ?

TheGroganator Mon 23-Dec-13 08:14:04

How would you suggest we should word it ?
What are you doing about it ?

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