to have been totally ignorant of the fact that you could be sent to jail for this??

(25 Posts)
alienbump Sun 29-Sep-13 09:43:47

Saw this item on the local news this week and can't believe that as the law stands at the moment victims of domestic violence basically have to hand over their new/safe address to the courts to be read out in front of their abuser and shown on papers served to the abuser; listening to the woman in the ITV interview (it's linked to in the petition page) made me so mad for her. That she was put in a position where because she wanted to take a man guilty of horrendous abuse to court meant she was left with no option but to provide her safe address and within an hour of papers being served he was on her doorstep...

The petition has been started by a woman who is being threatened with imprisonment herself for being in contempt of court for refusing to provide the safe address that her and her children now live at, she's collected about 1000 signatures so far but I'm really hoping that by the power of Mumsnet we can get to the 1500 she needs. Please sign/bump/re-post on a more appropriate bit of the forum, here's the link www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/onevoice-never-silenced-national-domestic-violence-abuse-campaign-supported-by-david-malone-human-rights-barrister

DameDeepRedBetty Sun 29-Sep-13 09:46:06

Done.

sooperdooper Sun 29-Sep-13 09:46:08

Wow I had no idea this was the case!!!! That's horrendous

DameDeepRedBetty Sun 29-Sep-13 09:48:13

OP I've reported to HQ because I think this is just the sort of thing MN should campaign about. Am forwarding to friends to sign via FB too.

SmiteYouWithThunderbolts Sun 29-Sep-13 09:50:14

Signed. Utterly horrifying.

Lilithmoon Sun 29-Sep-13 09:51:55

Signed and shared.

Done. How utterly awful sad

nennypops Sun 29-Sep-13 09:53:35

Careful - there are a few warning signs around the internet about this person.

Groovee Uruguay Sun 29-Sep-13 09:54:01

Have signed and shared.

alienbump Sun 29-Sep-13 09:54:19

Thank you, brill idea - I see so many petition requests but not very often one like this where I can't imagine anyone not thinking "well yes, of course that's how it should be!" Don't know if you watched the interview attached but the fact that the woman has basically lived her life waiting to be murdered just made me so mad...

Doyouthinktheysaurus Sun 29-Sep-13 09:54:25

Done.

I had no idea this was the case and it is utterly shocking!

ThePlEWhoLovedMe Sun 29-Sep-13 09:54:45

Signed ...Bump

Mama1980 Sun 29-Sep-13 09:54:46

Signed and shared

OliviaMMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 29-Sep-13 09:54:48

Hi there
We have moved this to our petitions topic
please feel free to keep bumping
Thanks
MNHQ

benfoldsfive Sun 29-Sep-13 09:56:22

I will have to read some more about this. In this case I'm sure it was not her abuser she was being asked to disclose the address to but a mutual friend of the ex couple. That she was being sued for owing mutual friend a large amount of money. The insinuation was by withholding her address she would aviod the debt being recovered via bailiffs or a earnings order.

In cases of family law The address is never given out on case of dv. This case is different because she was acting criminally and dv partner wasnt the respondent. If the third party have put the address they would be breaking the law and face prison

But no the address shold never be given directly to violent partners

Wonderstuff Sun 29-Sep-13 09:56:39

Signed. Awful that this is the case.

alienbump Sun 29-Sep-13 10:08:16

Thanks Olivia (couldn't stick an AIBU in front of the thread title could you, not that I'm obsessive about titles that don't make sense or anything, oh no, it's not making me twitch at all...)

KateCroydon Sun 29-Sep-13 10:12:18

What nennypops said:

http://jennytrout.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/abb-warning-eve-thomas-and-onevoice.html?m=1&zx=971bfda57e7982b2

http://voicelessnomore.wordpress.com/2013/07/05/red-flags-in-eve-thomass-behavior/

http://therealsgm.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/eve-thomas-onevoice-and-how-not-to.html?m=1

benfoldsfive Sun 29-Sep-13 10:19:27

She had been convicted of a crime and was withholding her address. Are we saying that anyone who has experienced dv should be tried differently to those that have not? What about if she had been convicted of a violent crime, child abuse? Would we all agree that she should have the right to withhold her address

It was not her partner who was suing her. It was someone she thought might share it with ex p. They would both then be guilty of breaking the non mol and face jail.

Done. When I went into Women's refuge with my 2 yr old DS the Refuge address was a P.O.Box only address. This was acceptable on my divorce petition as I had a great legal aid solicitor. All women should have the right to address anonymity under these circumstances.

SpookyNameChange13 Sun 29-Sep-13 10:39:27

Read KateCroydons link, the JennyTrout blog one.

alienbump Sun 29-Sep-13 10:40:41

This is the link to the news report, not an interview with Eve Thomas, but with a woman who had her abuser turn up on her doorstep an hour after he received court papers with her address on, really worth watching www.itv.com/news/granada/story/2013-09-25/domestic-violence-victim-campaign/

garlicvampire Sun 06-Oct-13 23:04:49

I'm horrified by the picture of Eve Thomas that's emerged from those links.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Sun 06-Oct-13 23:07:43

Signed.

I am horrified that this is the case.

fuckwittery Sun 06-Oct-13 23:25:11

Something has gone wrong in the process here. It is perfectly acceptable for an address to be withheld in family law applications for injunctions amd proceedings about children. You complete a confidential address form and ask to withold your address, in case of risk this is always granted but the court is aware of the address.

In the case of the blonde lady in the itv video link, I suspect her solicitors forgot to keep her address confidential when filing court docs, as I could clearly see a statement that looked professionally prepared. Her solicitors should have started it with "I, [name], of an address known to the court....." NOT write her full address, as statements must be disclosed to all parties. It may be court admin processes need to be tightened up, as once you file a confidential address form, all other docs filed with the court shouldnt have your address on, as they will be dislosed to all parties. It would be a good idea for each form to contain a warning, and this to be clearly explained to dv victims.
But it is common sense that the court needs the parties' address for service and justice. I dont know what the criminal law position is but would be v v surprised if it was a requirement to give the address openly in an abuse situation, but it will be a requirement to give it to the court,

Join the discussion

Join the discussion

Registering is free, easy, and means you can join in the discussion, get discounts, win prizes and lots more.

Register now