FOR JAMES BULGER- Stop Thompson and Venables cashing in on phone hacking

(92 Posts)
HannahLou06 Wed 13-Mar-13 20:09:16

To all mums.........http://t.co/V206Ret4rp DON'T let this happen! as Denise said this is BLOOD MONEY!! http://t.co/QhxwniS8Yv PLEASE SIGN & Share with as many people as possible to stop them claiming thousands of pounds. Lets show James Bulger we will never forget. This petition needs 100,000 signatures by may 4th 2013 before it can be discussed in Parliament.

Please help to get some Justice for little James

Hannah

Sunnywithshowers Fri 15-Mar-13 19:09:43

They were children - 10 years old. But they were tried as adults, which is wrong.

I've always thought that James Bulger was the primary victim, but so were Venables and Thompson.

colditz Fri 15-Mar-13 19:18:32

As the mother of a ten year old, who knows lots and lots of ten year olds ... They should have gone into care. Child abuse does not cure child abuse. They were ten. They were wrong, and what they did was appalling but they were also ten.

colditz Fri 15-Mar-13 19:25:51

They were abused children themselves. My ten year old has ony just stopped believing in Santa, and when he grows up, he's going to be an astronaut. How far do you have to brutalise a child to take him from that sweet, innocent little boy to the boys who murdered James Bulger? What happened to them to make them do that? Children do NOT just kill each other for fun, it is not something that has to be beaten out of them, it is something that has to be beaten into them.

Whatever else they were, they were children, and bizarrely, that is why they are so famously hated, BECAUSE they were children. Toddlers die at the hands of adults every year, but how many of those adults can you name? How many can you even remember?

drjohnsonscat Fri 15-Mar-13 19:34:16

No sorry I won't sign. I understand why the family feel this and doubtless I would too. But that doesn't make it right. I can hardly bare to think about this case because it's so awful. My heart breaks for James and his family. It also breaks for the children those boys should have been.

LineRunner Fri 15-Mar-13 19:38:03

I have always thought that they were also famously hated because there was CCTV footage of the abduction. The footage was shown over and over again. It had a profound effect on the way the media reported the crime.

MrsSham Fri 15-Mar-13 20:23:20

The sad thing is, is that children normalise their own experiences and often replicate what they see, not all abused children kill and not all killers where abused. But I can tell you it does not take a massive much in the way of abusive, not good enough or violent or even disorganised parenting to have a detrimental affect on children.

ChompieMum Fri 15-Mar-13 21:25:29

No-one wants anonymous child killers living near them.

All of us would try to undo what happened to Jamie Bulger if we could.

But all of us too need to live in a society with laws and regulations that are consistent and treat everyone equally. Sometimes those laws will produce results that not everyone agrees with. But the alternative is chaos, persecution and subjective decisions about who is entitled to rights as we see in some other countries.

I know which I prefer.

Greensleeves Fri 15-Mar-13 21:30:46

I agree with colditz. I have a geeky, innocent, sweet 10yo boy as well. I remember my brother at his age and how different their childhoods were. My brother isn't violent but he has struggled all his life with his feelings and dealing with the effects of a shit childhood. I can see how extreme abuse could lead to a child like Thompson being badly broken at the age of 10.

They should have gone into care and been treated as severely disturbed and traumatised children. Not crazed murderers.

lougle Fri 15-Mar-13 21:38:13

No. If the NOTW broke their civil rights, they have the right to claim (not necessarily receive) compensation. Their past crime(s) are irrelevant.

FiveGoMadInDorset Fri 15-Mar-13 21:43:31

No, you need to separate what they have done to the hacking scandal.

PetiteRaleuse Fri 15-Mar-13 22:04:10

What Greensleves said. I have a toddler, but also when James was killed my brother was the same age. What those boys did was unimaginably awful. But a 9 year old kid, you have to let them get past that. Move forward. And as several have said on this thread, if they had been adults it could already have been forgotten

I hope that now social services would have been involved and been able to help.

Jayphine2013 Fri 15-Mar-13 23:01:03

As i said before, i'm not asking you to agree- it's your right to disagree and not sign the petition. I thanked BeerTricksPotter for their dignified and compassionate reponse to the thread. The opening to the thread lacked any hint of compassion with the background to this campaign and i found it insensitive. As i said every right to oppose the campaign but you could have been more diplomatic as many replies on the thread were.

BOF Fri 15-Mar-13 23:04:40

Your name has changed? confused

Trills Fri 15-Mar-13 23:09:55

No matter what crime someone has committed or what age they were when they did it, they still have the same "human rights" as all other humans.

hellsbells76 Sat 16-Mar-13 03:10:10

I find your head-shaking comments about 'lack of empathy' 'as mothers' because people don't agree with you on this issue, pretty revolting tbh. Posters were responding to that so please don't lecture on 'empathy' and 'compassion' when you've been pretty PA and rude yourself.

squishee Sat 16-Mar-13 13:05:09

I agree with PetiteRaleuse, among others. Until civil law does not apply to ex-cons (or cons), they are as entitled to compensation as anyone else. No-one should have their phone hacked, least of all someone whose identity is protected - for whatever reason.

I don't wish to play down the boys' horrific crime. But they have served their time, and rehabilitation is an important part of the justice system IMO.

squishee Sat 16-Mar-13 13:06:05

And no, I will not sign your petition.

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