Shall I choose my estate agent based on a punctuation error?

(40 Posts)
milkwasabadchoice Wed 24-Apr-13 13:29:34

Obviously it's not the only criteria, but the decision has come down to two agents. One has an "it's" on its website that should be an "its".

This seems to have tipped the scales in favour of the other agent.

Is this madness? It seems a bit mad, but if you can't bloody punctuate properly on your website, you are a tad crap, IMHO. What do you think?

ItsYonliMe Wed 24-Apr-13 13:38:41

I know it's unreasonable, but I'd be the same. Ignorant EAs.

Cooroo Wed 24-Apr-13 13:42:46

You mean 'not the only criterion'? Criteria is plural.

But yes, all things being equal, go with the company who've bothered to get it right!

MrsOakenshield Wed 24-Apr-13 13:43:07

I would! Doesn't say much about how they'd present your particulars (as it were).

NatashaBee Wed 24-Apr-13 13:47:51

I would do the same. I pick my friends based on whether they know how to punctuate properly.

ItsYonliMe Wed 24-Apr-13 13:51:13

Cooroo - nobody uses criterion nowadays (apart from you obviously).

PseudoBadger Wed 24-Apr-13 13:53:56

That's the problem with the world ItsYonliMe

YoothaJoist Wed 24-Apr-13 13:55:46

I think if that was the only deciding factor, I'd point out the punctuation error and monitor their reaction. If they are mortified and change it immediately - go ahead. If they look at you like you've grown another head, mouths open, gum revolving in a beastlike fashion - go with the other agent.

milkwasabadchoice Wed 24-Apr-13 14:01:52

Cooroo I think I love you a little bit. Hope you don't mind.

ItsYonliMe Wed 24-Apr-13 14:03:13

Cooroo, do you use criterion? datum?

Cooroo Wed 24-Apr-13 14:19:06

Yes, I would say criterion as a singular. Seriously, is that weird? I'm 53... does this explain it? TBH I hadn't consciously noticed people not doing so.

There's another thread about Latin/Greek plurals (in particular 'fora' which I wouldn't use). I'm not slavish about it - datum would sound overly pedantic to me.

This is the Pedants' Corner, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it!

ItsYonliMe Wed 24-Apr-13 14:21:56

I love hearing words which I wouldn't normally use (and I will try and use criterion from now on).

I'm away to look for the fora thread now!

Cooroo Wed 24-Apr-13 14:23:23

Milkwasabadchoice - no I don't mind at all. It is better to be loved a little bit than never to be loved at all!

Cooroo Wed 24-Apr-13 14:55:24

Have done a quick survey round the office - no one else says 'criterion'. I'm baffled, really didn't know it had fallen out of use.

Poledra Wed 24-Apr-13 15:05:49

I'd say criterion. And always use the plural verb with data - the data are, not the data is! Don't use datum but that's because I rarely talk about one single piece of datum. wink

And yes, I would rate an estate agency by its written presentation of itself, as it's their written presentation of your house that will get people in to look. DH and I still describe a single-storey house as a 'bunaglow' after the same word appeared in particulars of 2 different houses from one estate agency.

Mehrida Wed 24-Apr-13 15:14:09

I would absolutely judge an estate agent on their use of its.

PILs recently put their house on the market. Their estate agent mentioned that their house has two bedroom's.

I nearly passed out.

GibberTheMonkey Wed 24-Apr-13 15:15:01

If its not the only one then it's plural surely?
I love mn. I have learned more grammar on here than I ever did at school.

dotty2 Wed 24-Apr-13 15:19:40

I ruled out a school on the grounds of it having a sign up saying 'when you've done something wrong, say your sorry'.

dotty2 Wed 24-Apr-13 15:20:20

oops - if I'm in pedants' corner, I suppose that should be 'its having a sign up'. Save the gerund!

Mehrida Wed 24-Apr-13 15:26:46

Gibber are you asking about the bedroom's?

It just shouldn't have an apostrophe in there.

Shodan Wed 24-Apr-13 15:27:43

I'd think the same as you, OP.

In fact I stopped frequenting a bakery that restyled itself as a 'pattisserie' for the same reason- if they couldn't get their sign right, who knew what they might be getting wrong in their baking?

Tsk.

of course people use criterion these days.
hmm

I used it yesterday (twice!)

datum - of course that's in use too - except it's not normally used, because you usually have more than one.

you don't normally have one datum, you normally have several data.

FunnysInLaJardin Wed 24-Apr-13 15:33:08

I would chose my agent on the basis of whether I liked them and thought they would sell my house tbh, not whether they used it's or its

and i think that internet forums is the acceptable (like mouses in computer speak rather than mice), but fora for all other areas of life. same as stadia etc.

Cooroo Wed 24-Apr-13 15:45:19

LOL at bunaglows.

SconeRhymesWithGone Wed 24-Apr-13 23:32:11

I use "criterion." Pedants' Corner is my favorite part of Mumsnet. smile

GibberTheMonkey Thu 25-Apr-13 07:49:43

Mehrida- bedrooms? No I was querying why criterium was correct over criteria. I don't know the rules (rubbish education, want to learn) but the rule that was given didn't seem to work for me.

streakybacon Thu 25-Apr-13 07:52:42

I'm more surprised that you only found one error. Estate agents' particulars are usually littered with them.

dotty I'd have avoided that school too.

<Criterion here too, though I get funny looks for it wink).

MirandaWest Thu 25-Apr-13 07:54:07

I use criterion. But I can be a little pedantic blush.

It would annoy me if an estate agency used it's when they meant its.

Cooroo Thu 25-Apr-13 12:45:19

GibberTheMonkey - originally (? Greek? have to look it up), 'criterion' meant one condition that has to be fulfilled, and 'criteria' meant many.

So the OP referred to punctuation being not the 'only criteria' and I made the point that that should be 'only criterion'.

Explanation offered because you said you wanted to know - but I wouldn't sweat about it!

GibberTheMonkey Thu 25-Apr-13 13:23:38

The question I was asking was, the op said 'it was not the only' implying there is more than one surely?

That's why I was asking because we were then told the rule was criteria for plural and as I thought that was plural .
Never mind I don't understand it.

GibberTheMonkey Thu 25-Apr-13 13:27:14

Actually I do get it now by having a think but not because of this thread grin

one criterion - one condition, one necessary point.
criteria - two or more conditions or necessary points.
(like bedrooms is the plural of bedroom, criteria is the plural of criterion.)

In fact, maybe we should use more latin/greek/old english plurals - we might find that bloody apostrophe being used less.
hmm

like brother/brethren, child/children, ox/oxen, stadium/stadia, criterion/criteria, datum/data

"The question I was asking was, the op said 'it was not the only' implying there is more than one surely? "

This is not the only criterion
These are not the only criteria.

this is not the only baby
these are not the only babies.

it works in exactly the same way as all plurals.

starkadder Mon 06-May-13 21:24:50

I say criterion too smile. Never thought there was anything weird about that. I wouldn't go as far as saying "datum" or even "the data are" though.

starkadder Mon 06-May-13 21:25:19

Ps definitely choose the grammatical EA

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Tue 07-May-13 22:13:52

YANBU, OP. Yes, you should.

OP - I wouldn't use an estate agent that had spelling mistakes. Would drive me nuts.

miffybun73 Thu 20-Jun-13 21:53:39

Yes, I would.

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