Use of possessive apostrophe in a thesis heading, or not?

(25 Posts)

It's along the lines of 'Men's, Women's and Children's views of...' & is for someone's PhD thesis.

Looks a bit cluttered, but is leaving them out wrong?

I've googled & can't find anything relevant - only that good rock albums don't have apostrophes!

Thanks

NigellasDealer Fri 09-May-14 09:47:06

wouldn't 'the views of men, women and children' look a bit better?

Pabboo Fri 09-May-14 09:47:50

I think you need them in.
But would it not be less clumsy/cluttered to say "the opinions of men, women and children regarding..."

NigellasDealer Fri 09-May-14 09:48:56

you really cannot have 'regarding' in a PhD thesis title.

Why not, Nigella? Let me find out exactly what he's written...

NigellasDealer Fri 09-May-14 09:52:16

because it sounds silly grin
no seriously though, that word 'regarding' is one I am always removing from the essays or theses I proofread. It is one of those unnecessary words that could easily be replaced with 'on' or 'about'

OK, here it is. (I've changed the country):

An Investigation of the Science Curriculum Reform and Implementation in South Korea: Teachers, Students and Curriculum Reformers Perspectives

His first language isn't English, which is why I'm involved.

There isn't a 'regarding'!

NigellasDealer Fri 09-May-14 09:54:55

not you miranda! I was referring to Pabboo's suggestion!

NigellasDealer Fri 09-May-14 09:56:32

OK how about 'perspectives of teachers, students and curriculum reformers'?
Also wouldn't it be 'investigation into'?

Thesis titles are so personal, I didn't want to change it if it's not actually wrong. Just put in apostrophes or not, really.

Kemmo Fri 09-May-14 10:02:06

You can't take them out.
Better to be cluttered than wrong!

But I agree that there is probably a better way of phrasing it to avoid the issue.

Poofus Fri 09-May-14 10:07:13

It should be "perspectives of teachers, students and curriculum reformers". A tiny change to a much better title.

OK. Thank you. Does everyone agree? I need to make a decision in the next few minutes - it's being printed today!

About putting them in, I meant. I'll also put Poofus's (ooh, apostrophe or not??) suggestion forward.

Kemmo Fri 09-May-14 10:32:28

Listen to Poofus!

OddFodd Fri 09-May-14 10:35:46

Poofus is right

OK, I'm writing to him saying to put them in, and to suggest that this would be better:

An Investigation into Science Curriculum Reform and Implementation in South Korea from the perspectives of Teachers, Students and Curriculum Reformers

Thank you all - I knew I'd post and brilliant MNers would be there with sage advice within minutes. Who needs Google? grin

NigellasDealer Fri 09-May-14 10:37:29

Poofus is right
er I said it first grin

You did, but I took no notice because it didn't answer my question! But I've had time to think and realise that you are right!

NigellasDealer Fri 09-May-14 10:47:10

grin

SconeRhymesWithGone Fri 09-May-14 14:18:11

If it's in the US, he probably needs the Oxford comma.

AKeyFox Mon 12-May-14 14:36:42

Personally I think shorter is better.
It gets to the point.

Is South Korean Science Curriculum Reform working ?

How else would you evaluate whether the reform is working or not ?
It's implicit in the nature of the subject.

BTW I'm assuming your friend's research did answer that question.... otherwise what was the point of the research. grin

No, it's not in the US I bloody hate Oxford commas, there's no point to them except to slow everything down.

Akey, the point was the fact that the teachers, students & reformers hadn't been asked their opinions beforehand, so e.g. teachers had to teach the new curriculum without any training and it was very different to the old curriculum, e.g. practicals in the lab as opposed to lectures and new topics which had little relevance to the students. So this is why he wanted that in the heading.

But I agree with you - simplicity is often better. But I have to go with people's wishes and just make what I've got into English sometimes not easy hmm

AKeyFox Tue 13-May-14 23:13:04

Miranda, when have politicians ever taken notice of the people that matter ? grin

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