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Veggies?

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ILoveAFullFridge · 02/10/2013 18:49

Why do we spell the abbreviation of 'vegetarians' with a double g? Surely we should be spelling it 'vegies'?

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Flatiron · 02/10/2013 22:49

Maybe it's just for consistency of pronunciation. Spelling the abbreviation
'veggies' encourages use of the soft 'j' sound. I'm a pescetarian, abbreviated to pesky, as no-one would know how to pronounce pescy. Wink

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ILoveAFullFridge · 03/10/2013 08:04

But that's just what puzzles me - it's inconsistent. Doubling the g makes it into a hard sound when followed by i, e or y, eg bag, baggy, baggies. Gag turns into gage if you add an e. Mag turns into magi if you add an i. For consistency of pronunciation it should be veg(etables), vegy, vegies.

Pesky makes sense to the hoi polloi of non-pedants, as it's not immediately obvious that the -esce has a hard c.

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eggyweggies · 03/10/2013 08:12

' vegies' would encourage a long 'e' sound. So 'vee-gees'

Double gg encourages a harder g sound and therefore a shorter e sound- so 'ved-gies'

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starfishmummy · 03/10/2013 08:14

I have an Australian cookery book which does use "Vegies" as the spelling.

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prism · 03/10/2013 12:27

It's because of a monk called Orrm who devised a way to indicate whether vowels are short or long in about 1200, and it involved doubling the consonant after them. So he would have had "veggetables" (or possibly even "veggetabbles") as well as "veggies". His relentless way of doing it ("catt", "matt" etc) didn't catch on, but the principle of using doubled consonants when there's any doubt about the pronunciation did, hence a cat purrs with two Rs, but pursues a mouse with one. And "pure" has one.

"Vegetables" comes from a Latin word whose pronunciation was already established, but "veggies", which is modern, has inherited Orrm's legacy.

IHMO.

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mrspremise · 05/10/2013 19:27

I've always written it as "vege", not "veggie", I didn't realise this wasn't 'the norm'. Now I feel sheepish...Blush

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ReallyOverThis · 09/12/2013 13:32

prism Best post in Pedants' Corner EVER. Thanks

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