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Pedants' corner

ooohh I'm excited!

21 replies

Kafri · 17/05/2013 22:49

just stumbled across this forum while having a nose about. It's just up my street! spelling and grammar were drilled into me by my DM from a very young age.
--she never cared about the content of my school work, as long as the spelling and grammar lived up to her standards.

going to have to keep my phone spell check on its best behaviour though
some of my favourites.....

should of/should have
pacific/specific
definately/definitely
missing/unnecessary apostrophes

errors on shop POS - always asking for complaints IMO

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WMittens · 18/05/2013 15:49

spelling and grammar were drilled into me by my DM from a very young age.
--she never cared about the content of my school work, as long as the spelling and grammar lived up to her standards.

Evidently she didn't care about the correct use of sentence case, either.

Quejica · 18/05/2013 15:57

I would have expected you to have started your sentences with capital letters.
I don't think you are a true pedant.

CatWithKittens · 18/05/2013 17:14

It is not always easy typing on a 'phone - let's be more welcoming to Kafri! After all pedants and would-be pedants are in relatively short supply when compared with the population at large.

PhyllisDoris · 18/05/2013 17:17

You know what really winds me up? People who say "pre-order" and "pre-book".
Is there any way of ordering or booking something other than before the event?

Kafri · 18/05/2013 19:06

Thank you Cat, though it was shameful of me. My only excuse being I was lying in bed with my phone. Very lazy of me but I really couldn't be bothered creeping down the landing past the nursery and risking waking the little one. My dear mum would be turning in her grave at my lack of capital letters...

Well Phyllis i'd like to see someone try to book an event that's already happened. It's big in retail - they all want you to pre-order something prior to its release.

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PhyllisDoris · 19/05/2013 00:01

Exactly. You can't post- order something.
What's the difference between pre-order and order???

I also hate "pan-fried" and "oven- baked". How do you fry, if not in a pan, or bake without an oven! Eh? Eh?

Wuldric · 19/05/2013 00:08

You are not a true pedant, OP.

Sorry and all that. The sentence going to have to keep my phone spell check on its best behaviour though had me wincing. It caused me real pain and suffering. Please don't do that again.

WMittens · 19/05/2013 20:26

PhyllisDoris

Deep frying doesn't use a pan. Also, pan frying is a term separate to that of shallow frying and deep frying, even though a pan may be used for all three.

You can bake on a bakestone, or in a tandoor (OK a tandoor is a type of oven, however it is different enough in Western cooker to be distinguished from a 'regular' oven.

WMittens · 19/05/2013 20:26

*...necessarily use a pan.

PhyllisDoris · 19/05/2013 21:46

But deep frying is deep frying. And chips are deep fried in a chip pan.

WMittens · 20/05/2013 12:44

Not necessarily, as per my subsequent correction - how many pans do you see in a fish and chip shop for deep fat frying?

My point stands that not all frying involves a pan, and pan frying is a specific term within the collective term of 'frying'.

I could shallow fry some eggs in a pan, but I wouldn't be pan frying them.

mrsdinklage · 20/05/2013 13:08

Phyllis I'm with you. "Pre-owned" and "Pre-loved" - its just second hand.

MirandaGoshawk · 20/05/2013 15:15

Hello Kafri, just wanted to say welcome to Pedants' Corner and we're often not as grumpy as this lot seem to be! I feel your pain re. should of and pacific, but I have a mental block with definate although I am learning to check it.

PhyllisDoris · 20/05/2013 19:25

I beg to differ. If you are shallow frying eggs in a pan, of course you're pan frying them.

Dilidali · 20/05/2013 19:29

I always thought pre-order stands for ordering before general release?!
Did I get that wrong?

Crikeyblimey · 20/05/2013 19:31

I suspect the addition of the word "pan" is an attempt to make fried food appear healthier.

Yours
Pedant and Conspiricy Theorist.

WMittens · 20/05/2013 20:00

I beg to differ. If you are shallow frying eggs in a pan, of course you're pan frying them.

I love it when you beg.

Anyway, not quite, because there is a distinction between pan frying and shallow frying, being the amount of oil used :

"Pan frying is a form of frying characterized by the use of minimal cooking oil or fat (compared to shallow frying or deep frying); typically using just enough oil to lubricate the pan (although, in the case of a greasy food such as bacon, no oil or fats may be needed)."

"Shallow frying is an oil-based cooking technique... Since the food is only partly submerged, it must be turned over partway through the cooking process."

WMittens · 20/05/2013 20:01

Crikeyblimey

Due to the amounts of oil used in each case, it is likely that pan frying is the healthier option.

Crikeyblimey · 20/05/2013 20:07

Darn it - I was sure I was onto something there.

SconeRhymesWithGone · 20/05/2013 20:30

"Advance order" would be more accurate than "pre-order," but would take up more room on the Amazon website.

PhyllisDoris · 21/05/2013 00:33

What's wrong with just "order"?

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