People have a lot of misconceptions about California, but none of them are really true..

(11 Posts)
wonderstuff Tue 01-Jan-13 21:30:10

Discuss.

EleanorGiftbasket Tue 01-Jan-13 21:32:11

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None of them is really true. Am I right?

Greythorne Tue 01-Jan-13 21:32:54

None is singular.
So 'none is true'

wonderstuff Tue 01-Jan-13 21:37:31

YY I was thinking that misconceptions are not true because they are MISconceptions...

EleanorGiftbasket Tue 01-Jan-13 21:45:38

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catladycourtney1 Sat 09-Feb-13 03:04:04

Ooh I hate this too.

Chubfuddler Sat 09-Feb-13 03:07:33

It's a tautology. If they are misconceptions, then it follows that they aren't true so the second part of the defence is redundant. And grammatically incorrect to boot.

WMittens Sat 09-Feb-13 10:09:18

"None of them" is referring to a plural, 'them', not a singular. www.grammarmudge.cityslide.com/articles/article/1026513/9903.htm explains it well.

My first problem with the statement (I didn't spot the tautology, and this may just be the way I read it) was that it suggested the 'people' (as the subject of the sentence) were not true (which is impossible) rather than the misconceptions not being true (which is possible, although redundant, as already pointed out).

I apologise for excessive use of parentheses.

I've been thinking about this none is/none are thing.

'None' is (obviously) an elision of 'not one', and in Old English there was a word for 'not any' - the equivalent would be 'nany', so strictly speaking 'none' should always go with a singular verb, as 'one' does (and the quote in the OP should read "Nany of them are true", tautology aside).

However, since we lack this word nowadays, and 'you' is used with both singular and plural verbs, there seems to be no reason why 'none' shouldn't serve both purposes. I'd quite like 'nany' to exist though.

cumfy Mon 11-Feb-13 19:49:38

What an odd statement.

It seems to be saying everyone is omniscient about California.

The Golden gate bridge is made of marzipan.

Apparently this misconception is false.grin

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