Could you please add to my list of must-haves for my yet-to-be born DC?

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1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 19:50:17

Following on from my 'best vests for newborns' thread, I would so appreciate your ideas of what DH and I need to add to our current purchases for our DC (due in April, but will be a Winter baby, because we'll be in Oz by then. And in Melbourne, so it's chilly. Not as chilly as Winter here, but pretty darn cold all the same.)

We currently have:

2 x 1-2 month old popper long-sleeved vests

2 x 2-4 month old popper long-sleeved vests. I know this isn't enough vests, but have no idea of the amount needed for each age group, so stopped there until I'd sought advice from Mumsnet!

2 x slings (Kangas)

1 x Ergo baby carrier with newborn insert

12 x packets Waterwipes [they were £2.25 each from NCT, and are $7.58 from the only supermarket chain in Oz which sells them - so expensive in Oz! How long does a packet last, in general? Debating whether to get loads more to put in our shipping container...but again, not sure how many we need until the baby can go on to regular baby wipes?]

That's it so far! I guess we'll need a change mat, and a car seat (will be bought in Oz, as UK car seats are illegal to fit in Australian vehicles.) Going to try to be pram free, and see how that goes. But I have no idea the amount of basics we need, or how long babies take to grow out of things. I want to buy as much as possible in the UK, because Oz is great if you're earning dollars, but pretty dire if you're spending pounds, which we will be for at least a while. Any suggestions much appreciated!

GimmeDaBoobehz Sat 16-Nov-13 20:00:04

Muslims! They are vital and we'd be lost without them. Wipe up sick/put over your shoulder for sick/use to cover up clothes from other things/line cots and other things very useful.

I'd say 6 x vests would be your best bet. 3 clean 2 in the wash and 1 on smile Can get more though but no more than 12 and no less than 4 would be my advice.

If your baby is going to be born in the winter months then a snowsuit might be an idea. Not sure of the weather in Oz in the next couple of months, so that would be up to you. If it's less than 12 outside I'd say a snowsuit would be very useful.

Same above with mittens and hat if it's very cold.

Non mandatory but might be useful is scratch mittens. DD used to scratch her face something awful still does nearly 8 months later.

Bottles if you are going to formula feed. Also if you are going to formula feed a steriliser.
If you are going to express, a breast pump would be a great purchase.
If you are going to breastfeed, some lanolin cream might be an idea (or Oz equivalent) as sometimes it can be a bit achy at first whilst your adapting to the new feeding regime. I ended up getting a blister on my breast, so it eased it massively.

I'd also advise for you that you get some breast pads, because leakage can be pretty heavy whether you BF or not in the first few weeks.

What else for little one?

Cotton wool balls to bath them with the first couple of weeks as actual baths you don't tend to do until they are a few weeks old or even older.

A changing mat or something to change the baby on.

Nappies (this can be hard when you don't know their weight. If you have a DP or family member who could go out and buy after your DC is born that would be good, as they base them on weight).

Car seat.

Pram/Buggy.

I think that's it for the moment.

RandomMess Sat 16-Nov-13 20:02:06

I would look at getting washable nappies as you will have the climate to make drying them easy grin save you $$$$$

SquidgyMummy Sat 16-Nov-13 20:02:27

Congratulations on your DC!
First thought, that doesn't seem like a lot of clothes.
For the first 6 months, i think sleepsuits are perfectly adequate, layered with a fleecy all-in one /. pram suit.
I would just buy them in multipacks form Primark/ ASDA / Matalan as you will be doing a lot of washing and babies grow out of their clothes easily every 3 months.
Not used waterwipes, I personally think warm water and cotton wool is fine for newborns and then just stock up on normal baby wipes as you will be using them till potty training (min 2 years!).

I think you are being brave going pram free. Could you not buy a second had one and pop it in your shipping container, so you have not spent too much money if you never use it, but have one in an emergency.

What are you doing about a Moses basket / cot?
Baby bath
Bottles / Steriliser (Breast feeding doesn't always work out.)
Nappies - how do they compare in price to Oz?

slightlygoostained Sat 16-Nov-13 20:05:13

I wish I'd got a few of these for those early weeks of changing nappies during the night while trying not to wake baby up:
www.johnlewis.com/john-lewis-baby-bundler-white-one-size/p230591844

RandomMess Sat 16-Nov-13 20:06:02

I found invaluable a rigid plastic support bath seat, this one www.mothercare.com/Mothercare-Ergonomic-Bath-Support/265758,default,pd.html#q=bath as leaning over the bath trying to hold a newborn whilst bathing them was a nightmare.

Again not needed straight away but useful to have and very cheap 2nd hand in the UK.

Babygrows/sleepsuits
Babygowns as much easier/quicker for nighttime nappy changes and have built in scratch mits.
Cardis

RandomMess Sat 16-Nov-13 20:07:06

x-posts baby bundler=babygowns in my post - fantastic things!

sleepdodger Sat 16-Nov-13 20:09:44

Where will you be having the baby? If there stuff like maternity pads?
I have friends who have tinies there and kids clothes are so so much cheaper here, so I'd show in a tears worth in age of cheap vests and baby gros
In Mel summer it's hot so you wouldn't need as much
Muslins
Nurafen infant, Calpol , teething powders and sidocrem- don't know if that's allowed?
Also super in ear thermometer well worth getting a ££ easy quick reading of temps in middle of night with sad screaming baby hmm

marzipananimal Sat 16-Nov-13 20:13:15

You could use washable wipes instead of baby wipes, something like those sold here
Washable breastpads also handy if you're breastfeeding, though disposable ones are better for the early days IME. I use these
Something like a bouncy chair? A play mat/baby gym type thing?
Sleeping bags are great, better than blankets.
Clothes wise I wouldn't buy much in newborn - they can grow out of it very fast and you're likely to be given gifts. At most I'd get 6 vests, 6 babygrows, a cardigan, a hat and some scratch mitts. Probably same goes for 0-3 months. If you're not finding out the sex then I guess you won't want to buy too many clothes in advance

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 20:14:04

Thank you all! Just before I posted I mentioned to DH that I was a bit annoyed that I hadn't ordered the multi pack of muslins from the NCT website when I ordered the slings and baby carrier. They're on the top of my list...

With the vests, if I get 6, in what sizes do I buy them? How long will 6 last?

How many babygros do I need for the first few months?

Breast pads - awesome, I didn't even think of these. Are they in the supermarket? On the list.

Washable nappies... hmm. Not sure how I feel about them. But worth considering, especially when the weather improves when the baby is about 4 months old. I imagine nappies are horrendously expensive compared to here. But if nappies are dependent on weight, there's not much I can do but wait, I guess.

marzipananimal Sat 16-Nov-13 20:14:50

nursing bras too

Goodkingwalkingslass Sat 16-Nov-13 20:16:50

I would say if you're going pram free not to bother with a snow suit but instead make sure you will have some kind of coat/waterproof to fit over you both when baby is in the sling. I've got a baby wearing coat which is fab but just used to use a big coat of DH's till I got it.

RandomMess Sat 16-Nov-13 20:17:28

YOu can get washable nappies in one size - birth to potty wink - do some research on them.

Worth buying baby gros and vests 2nd hand, some in newborn and some in 0-3 months. They baby bundlers last longer as they start of huge and they grow into them length ways.

Again 2nd hand muslins are fine - go to NCT 2nd hand sales to pick this stuff up really cheap.

Goodkingwalkingslass Sat 16-Nov-13 20:22:08

Oh and I would get at least 8 vests and baby grows in newborn and 0-3 months. Unless you're going to do washing every day it can be surprising how many you can get through.

At least 2 sheets for wherever baby will sleep. We have an NCT Bednest which is amazing.

Some kind of night light for night feeds and nappy changes. Bright enough to see by but not so bright it totally wakes baby up.

BikeRunSki Sat 16-Nov-13 20:27:57

I'd say 8 vests and 8 baby grows each in newborn, 0-3 and 3-6 month sizes. 2 or 3 cardies in each size to go over the top. Pram suit too. A few hats.

Cloth nappies and flannels instead of wipes.

christilass Sat 16-Nov-13 20:30:16

BABYGOWNS , they are. utterly fantastic :-)
so easy to change baby without waking them :-)

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 20:31:18

This is so helpful, thank you so much.

Thanks for the link to the washable breast pads. Have just favourited it, will order some.

I'm happy to buy second hand anything (probably not breast pads though...!) I'll google NCT second hand sales, and see if there's one near me in the near future. Thanks for the heads up.

I love the bath seat. I had no idea they existed! Right, about to google 'bednest'...

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 20:32:38

I'm totally getting the babygowns. (Is two enough??) They've been mentioned loads on this thread. Again, I'd never heard of them. Brilliant!

RandomMess Sat 16-Nov-13 20:35:06

I'd get 3 especially if you can pick them up 2nd hand wink worth checking out on ebay too as £8 each new just seems ridiculous for something the sleep in, puke on, get poo on etc.

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 20:44:14

Thanks, RandomMess.

With the sleeping bag things instead of blankets, how many of those do I need? Is two enough? I would like to co-sleep, and I feel these would be good because the baby can be nice and cosy on top of the duvet.

RandomMess Sat 16-Nov-13 20:47:21

Yes 2 should be fine, they come in different warmths. I believe in Aus they tend to not have heating in their homes so probably 2.5 tog in 0-6 months and then later on much cooler ones like 0.5 tog.

Again so cheap 2nd hand.

NotCitrus Sat 16-Nov-13 20:49:43

Bits of cloth in water work well as wipes for small babies. Wipes are useful once they are on solid food and poo gets ickier.
Cloth nappies - many work from around 6 weeks to near potty age. See what you can find second hand.

Snot sucker, bath support, hooded towel, bath thermometer, baby paracetamol, dummies, baby bouncer are all useful to have.

Will you have space to dry lots of clothes? Babies vary hugely - ds with washable nappies caused only 2 loads a week. Dd is almost a load a day, with puking then playing with food and anything else within reach. Some extra clothes for you will be useful! And good shoes for lots of walking.

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 20:50:54

Thanks again Random. Am going to see if there's an NCT sale coming up near me...

Oh god. Don't buy anything. When the baby arrives you'll quickly get what you need. Supermarkets are 24 hour right?

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Sat 16-Nov-13 20:52:43

Order everything you can here and get it sent to Oz direct. It's so much cheaper here.

Melbourne has a really good Freecycle network from what I understand so sign up to that. I think it's fine to plan to be pram free in the first weeks and see how you go.

RandomMess Sat 16-Nov-13 20:55:06

I also found vests that didn't popper up much better too - quicker nappy changes, again perhaps more relevant when they are older!

Amount of washing and whether you need muslins is dependent on wether they posset or puke or lot. DD1 didn't at all, and even the others not particular whereas other dc got through volumes of stuff each day.

notso Sat 16-Nov-13 20:55:57

A baby star wrap can't link on my IPad but google it. They are incredibly cute but also cosy, and much easier to get on and off than snow suits.

You need maternity towels. You might not need breast pads. I never did.

If you need to bottle feed you need clean bottles, not sterile ones. So you don't need a steriliser.

Breast pumps are okay but hand expressing is easy enough after a bit of practise.

Baby can sleep anywhere pretty much. Wash him/her in the sink.

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 20:57:31

Hooded towel has just gone on the list, thanks NotCitrus.

Not much space to dry clothes outside for the winter months anyway. But bizarrely, clothes dryers are far more widely used in Oz than I've found them to be here, despite our better weather.

I am very torn about washable nappies. I was a bit turned off them because on a thread I read a while ago many people were saying that babies who use them have a 'smell', which I didn't like. But they appeal to me very much on a 'less waste' level (hence why I'm doing this thread - I only want to buy what we will really use, and not be swamped by a pile of useless marketing tat.)

notso Sat 16-Nov-13 20:57:45

Some kind of seat, either a bouncy chair or a swing is also useful.

Oz is hot. We took our children as babies and indoors they often just wore a nappy. Dressed them to go out though. We hired a baby bouncer because sometimes it was cooler to out them down than hold them in the heat.

GimmeDaBoobehz Sat 16-Nov-13 21:01:40

We have so many Muslims they are coming out of our ears, even now.

It's hard to know how many newborn size to get, as it does often depend on how big your baby is. DD was only in them for a month, so 4 seemed enough. I got 8 0-3 months and the same onwards from 3-6 then 6-9 and now just putting on 9-12 months (long and thick).

Are you going pram free completely?

Maybe I have missed it but where will DC be sleeping (cot, cosleeping etc)?

Breast pads are very valuable. I also got breast shells which collect the excess breast milk, but these aren't necessary.

Nappies are very important. All this stuff is as not sure about over there, but here you need to bring all your stuff into the hospital. The hospital I had DD in was actually really, really good but not all of them are that helpful.

I'd also get some formula as back up just in case DC doesn't take to the breast or if there is difficulty feeding a breastpump to get your flow working/to give the breastmilk.

It's difficult to know it's always afterwards you realise what you needed at the time.

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 21:03:21

Tondelayo, thank you for the Freecycle tip. Great to know.

Starlight, I wish we could afford to wait! But stuff in Oz is expensive, and the UK is so, so cheap in comparison. Things like our cot (we're getting an Amby hammock) are the same, but clothes and general bits and pieces are much cheaper here - unbelievably so. We'll be on a strict budget while we set up home and find work, so it makes sense to do this now.

With regard to the swing, I fancy a jumperoo. But how old does the baby need to be before it can use it??

NearTheWindmill Sat 16-Nov-13 21:07:27

two dozen M&D vests up to three months. two dozen M&S babygros up to three months. You don't need much else on the clothing front except for a few cardigans.

A couple of small blankets for swaddling, hugging and loving. A small soft toy.

A pram, a cot, some bedding, a changing table, a bouncy seat, a car seat, some emergency bottles if b/f doesn't work (hope it does). A top and tail bowl, some allergy free wipes and three times as many maternity pads as you think you will need.

Jolly good nursing bras and love in spades.

Good luck OP.

PS: and loads of cotton bibs (not with plastic backig) to soak up dribble, breast milk and little possets to save washing a babygro every time.

MrsDeVere Sat 16-Nov-13 21:08:19

Re your question about wipes, I am almost evangelical about these

reusable wipes

I didn't discover them till DC5 and I wish I had found them so much earlier! They are fantastic and can deal with even the most explosive of nappies.

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 21:08:25

Thanks for that Gimme. I am a bit dubious about newborn sizes, as DH and his DB were huge, and DB's DD born this year went straight into 3-6 months!! But if I get mostly second hand, I'm willing to take the risk, rather than not buy anything until the baby arrives, then have to spend $$$$ in Oz

I want to try co-sleeping, but we're also getting the Amby baby hammock for naps, hanging out and maybe other night sleeping, depending on the baby really.

We want to be completely pram free. We've bought an Ergo carrier, and slings.

RandomMess Sat 16-Nov-13 21:09:18

Actually I found the smell of wee in a disposable far far worse than in a washable. My dds wore a disposable overnight once they were sleeping through 7-7 and the smell used to make me heave in the mornings - LOL.

I found cloth nappies far better for explosive newborn poo explosion containment than disposables.

RandomMess Sat 16-Nov-13 21:10:41

I found bandana bibs great for dribble etc.

I had huge babies and still found 0-3 months very useful as newborns tend to be skinny for a while even if tall.

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 21:14:32

Thanks NearTheWindmill, I can't believe I didn't have bibs on my list already. Can I ask why not with plastic backing?

MrsDeVere, that's the second link to that site on this thread, so I'll have a good look at them. Thank you.

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 21:20:03

Thanks Random. I guess I find the logistics of disposables a bit overwhelming for some reason, despite the fact that I'm a bit of a hippy and would like to try some elimination communication with my baby - which works better with cloth, as the baby is far more aware of wetness and sensation. But I have some time to investigate, so I'll do some research.

yellowsnownoteatwillyou Sat 16-Nov-13 21:20:36

For you
Breast pads
Nipple cream
Witch hazel gel ( for putting on maternity pads)
Arnica capsules
Big pants
Long vest tops

For baby
Bean bag (best thing I bought!)
Sock ons (2nd best thing I bought)
Muslins
Cotton buds (to get bogeys out)
Sudocream
Hooded towels
Nail scissors
Gro bags x2
Cellular blankets

Can't think of anything else 4 months has gone so fast with ds.

NearTheWindmill Sat 16-Nov-13 21:21:19

Because they end up ponging and the plastic backs don't survive 60 degree washes or even at 40 split and look and feel skanky. And when the weather's good you wouldn't want them on a topless hot baby because they will scratch. For little breaks and going out, Boots used to do marvellous disposable bibs smile

SavoyCabbage Sat 16-Nov-13 21:22:04

Bonds do baby nightdresses. You can get them in BigW.

I would definitely get a snowsuit. Not necessarily a waterproof one but a warm one for sure. My dc wore coats to school last week and it's nearly summer.

SmallBee Sat 16-Nov-13 21:23:39

I have a five week old & when it comes to clothing the best bit of advice I can give is get as many of your sleep suits as you can to come with built in scratch mitts. DD will pop off scratch mitts in seconds but the built in ones work. Mothercare do multi packs of sleep suits & they have the scratch mitts built in as standard.

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 21:28:31

The sock ons are genius! I'm always finding tiny socks in the street...

Thanks, NearTheWindmiss, that makes sense. And I'll check out Boots and grab some disposables too.

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 21:33:34

Hi Savoy. I find Bonds really expensive. John Lewis is a pretty upmarket store in the UK, compared to BigW (where I used to work in high school!), and JL babygowns are only £8 each. Do you know how much the Bonds ones are?
Thanks for the tip about the warm suit. I was a bit tempted to not get one, but you've reminded me how cold Melbourne can get...

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 21:35:33

Thanks SmallBee, you've echoed a few earlier posters, so I now have 'inbuilt mitts' as a prerequisite for my any sleepsuits I buy.

1charlie1 Sat 16-Nov-13 21:59:43

Starlight, thanks so much for the maternity towels tip. I was just re-reading the thread again and saw your post. I would have likely used sanitary pads, but looking online I see these are plastic based and not great for post-childbirth.
Thank you for the bottle sterilising point too.

BikeRunSki Sat 16-Nov-13 22:04:12

Next sleep suits have built in scratch mitts, or at least they did 2 years ago. Probably still, but i haven't bought any for a while.

nosleeptilever Sat 16-Nov-13 22:25:45

we bought bags of secondhand clothes for our ds on gumtree. One haul was full of really great quality outfits, babygros, vests etc worth 100s which we got for £20. Check them out!

SavoyCabbage Sun 17-Nov-13 03:09:09

I think they are $11. I know what John Lewis is. grin

LittleBabySqueakSqueak Sun 17-Nov-13 03:19:07

2 warm fleece dressing gowns for you. You'll be up a lot in the cold night, and one will always be covered in sick.

ZingWantsGin Sun 17-Nov-13 05:24:28

This is for you:
after the birth and while you are sore down below use kitchen paper towels to clean/dry yourself after going to the toilet or having had a shower/bath.
toilet paper is rubbish, it crumbles and it will stick to you and trying to get rid of those bits will make you even more sore.
especially if you have an episiotomy. trust me.
normal towels are just to scratchy.

dispose used kitchen towels in a bag, not down the loo.

you are welcome. and good luck

1charlie1 Sun 17-Nov-13 08:31:38

Sorry, Savoycabbage! I thought you were in Oz, and as I had never heard of JL til I'd lived in the UK a while, assumed that of you! Dopey...
Will get another fleece dressing gown from TKMaxx before I leave, thanks for the tip!
Am on the tablet, so can't scroll back to see who suggested the star baby wrap. Gorgeous! Am getting one. Looks so much more convenient than a snow/ outdoor suit, and is MADE IN THE UK! But not too expensive. Thanks for the suggestion.
Kitchen paper - check. Makes sense, and I always have it on hand anyway.

1charlie1 Sun 17-Nov-13 08:36:56

nosleeptilever, I'll have a look on gumtree today. Would love to get second hand things, but I've been a bit disappointed in the quality/condition of the things I've seen in the local charity shops. And a bit expensive too, considering just how cheap it is to buy a lot of these things brand new. Gumtree might be a better bet, thanks.

notanyanymore Sun 17-Nov-13 08:46:05

the most useful thing I had was an electric swing, all my dc loved it and it was a god send in terms of being able to put them down and get on with somethings for a bit.
what are waterwipes? I always used Huggies 'pure' wetwipes straight from birth.

notanyanymore Sun 17-Nov-13 08:47:34

ahhh I couldn't have used kitchen roll for me after birth! especially not the first one... shudder
get those wet wipes that you can flush down the loo!

Tailtwister Sun 17-Nov-13 09:21:11

Lots of good suggestions here already. I went for very plain (mostly white) sleep suits when mine were very small as they were cheap (came in multiple packs) and we seemed to go through loads. Muslins are a must too. I think it's wise not to buy too much beforehand as you don't know how big the baby will be and like Starlight has said, you can always get more of the standard things once the baby is born.

If you're trying to save money, second hand is a great option. Babies grow so quickly that the clothes are barely worn and with a good wash are just as good as new.

If you're planning to breastfeed; breastpads (I used the Lasinoh disposable ones) and stroppy tops which pull down easily to go under a top layer. Breastfeeding tops are expensive and sometimes quite fiddly.

Remember, you'll be given lots of baby clothes as gifts so don't go too crazy! I think you should be fine with just slings, you can always buy a pram later if you find you really need one.

trilbydoll Sun 17-Nov-13 18:25:41

I know they grow out of stuff quickly but given how cheap asda vests / sleepsuits are, i would get a few more. If you have a sicky baby plus an explodapoo you could run out quite easily!

Bibs - the big ones that pull over their heads are best, a bandana style one is no match for a determined vomit machine.

The only other thing i would say is don't forget how much you need to carry around with you, i would not fancy going shopping without a pram for example, unless you are super strong!

BarberryRicePud Sun 17-Nov-13 19:02:15

Good advice above. I'd add a babybjorn babysitter balance bounce chair. Best one on the market IMO especially if you have a bigger baby. Expensive though.

And sorry, i know you didn't ask but i was a bit worried about your comment about the baby cosleeping on top of the duet. This really isn't safe. I coslept with both of mine and think it's great but please do have a good read of the safety stuff. Baby should be on a firm surface (on sheet only with firm mattress, no major roll together). Between you and the edge not you and dp. And duvets and pillows no where near, which means you need to get used to sleeping in several layers that are also accessible for feeding, because the duvet at best will cover your legs and back only. Sorry if you already knew that.

Melonbreath Sun 17-Nov-13 19:11:27

I would seriously reconsider getting a pram. Lugging dd around after a 3rd degree tear was an impossibility but I could push the pram. I've got a massive antique one that fits oodles of shopping in underneath.
I have a moby wrap too but it's better for short trips, walks and the like. Carrying dd and shopping and spare nappies, wipes etc was just too much.

Aim for having three clothing changes a day for the first 8 weeks. Sometimes dd would stay in the same outfit all day and other days was poonami central for days on end and having a drawer full of 2nd hand vests didn't suddenly seem so excessive! Meant I could properly soak the gags delightful yellow stains out.

We went for biodegradable nappies and nappy sacks in the end as dd got a horrible rash off one washable nappy and the other brand we bought just didn't wash well at all.

After about 4-5 months invest in a secondhand rainforest jumparoo. It saved my life.

I didn't get a a bednest but I did get a cotbed with adjustable bed height so when dd was pre rolling I had it jammed against our bed with one side off. Half the time she ended up between us anyway.

Learn to knit/crochet off YouTube and make your own blankies. Far cheaper and more fun/individual. I got pretty good and could crochet whilst feeding dd. You can also extend them as baby gets bigger.

1charlie1 Mon 18-Nov-13 10:26:07

Thanks for more great tips!
Waterwipes were recommended by my midwife - less fiddly for a newborn than cotton wool balls and cooled boiled water. They're just regular baby wipes, but 'infused' with water only, so they're gentle on delicate skin. The packs weigh a ton!
Must remember strappy tops... I am a bit embarassed to admit, I rarely wear a bra, so I'm dreading the whole nursing bra bit.
Barberry, thank you for your post. I've only cursorily looked at the logistics of co-sleeping, so I will definitely be doing a lot more reading to ensure I know what to do safely. I did know I wouldn't be able to be properly under a duvet, but I didn't know the baby shouldn't even be lying on top of it. Lots more research will be done!
Re the pram comments. I saw a very funny sight in my shopping centre over the weekend - baby happily in sling, baby's pram chock full of bags of shopping! I have a little trolley for shopping, so hopefully that will suffice. We're just going to wait and see how we go.
We'll definitely be buying a load of basics clothing wise. I feel a bit more confident now that I know what's appropriate, and I'll buy a bit more than I would have had I not posted here. Second hand is looking good...

Teaandflapjacks Mon 18-Nov-13 14:50:54

The best advice I got by a long way was a sports water bottle to use when you go to the loo - you can aim quite effectively and using water each time keeps infection at bay - lifesaver!! Also bath salts and do a 'sitzbad' if you have stitches.

I bought all the stuff for breast feeding, including the lanisoh cream (cant spell it!) but my milk never came in and i couldn't use any of it. If you do breast feed try to keep topless at home as much as poss - it's better for your nipples (healing) for one thing.

Baby oil - we faffed about with Olive oil on our daughter until our Paediatrician was a bit confused just use baby oil, its designed for their skin, and actually there can be impurities in olive oil etc.

We just used normal sensitive baby wipes from birth - they do here (in Germany) even in the hospital. Get some nappy cream in. Use normal supermarket own brand nappies, perfectly fine.

Let the baby have some 'naked' time each day - helps their skin no end.

It's fine to wash them every other day, we wash our daughter every day and have done for a few weeks now (she is 12 weeks). She loves bath time and it helps me have a structure. Its also fine to wash them less often - it is what suits you best.

On bath time - she got terrible colic, giving her a warm bath as a last resort would help bring up the really bad wind that was trapped - worth knowing about. We found a grape seed cushion warmed on her belly invaluable when her coilc was bad. We also gave her fennel tea which worked wonders and much better for us than infacol. Buy all the meds you might need from blighty before you go - you know where you are with everything, and it is nice to know they are there 'just in case'.

Teaandflapjacks Mon 18-Nov-13 14:51:15

Good luck and congrats. smile

PartPixie Mon 18-Nov-13 16:14:46

I'll try and not repeat anything but appologise if I do.

For you
If your trying not to spend in oz look at some hospital bag lists and get the stuff of there. Eg pjs, big pants, post birth clothes, pads etc.
As you want to breastfeed I would get a cheap pump, even if you aren't planning on expressing, in case of any bf issues. We ended up having to run out and buy one so spent more than if we had pre bought. Same with having a bottle or two. I wouldn't pre buy formula but that is a personal choice.
With nursing bras look at the Emma Jane ones as they are back size only. You can only get measured for nursing bras after I think 36 weeks by which time I assume you won't be in the uk. Measuring pre baby isn't always accurate also. That way you know you will have something to put you on for the early weeks.
Bio oil?
Hypnotherapy cd?

For baby
More second hand vests, sleepsuits and bibs than you think you will need. You can pick them up so cheaply second hand it is better to over estimate how many you will need than underestimate and have to rush out and buy more pricy brand new ones.

I used water wipes since dd was 7 weeks. Loved them and should have used them from birth. They may be more pricy but are the only recommended ones for newborns despite what other packets may say.
Bouncy chair- eBay or gumtree.
Same if you want a play mat. Jumperoos are from approx 4-5 months but you may want to buy in advance.
What about an Ikea £12 Highchair. Highly recommended on mn and easy to transport.
One of my best buys was a tipitoes mini bath. It is a small baby bath with the seat built in. So much easier to bath
baby safely, saves water and is much easier on your back.
Again looking ahead but toys? Lamaze type things, cloth books etc?
Grow egg/ nursery thermometer?
Bath thermometer- we got ours from pound land
I'd get blankets as well as sleeping bags. There is a minimum weight requirement on most sleeping bags.
I know you say no pram but would it be worth getting a cheap second hand one, just in case e.g you have a difficult birth, c section or for what ever reason cant use the sling. You could always sell it of you don't use it. Not saying you need to do this but it depends on the financial implications of not having one and needing to buy one quickly in oz vs buying a cheap second hand one that you could sell at no loss.

Sunnysummer Mon 18-Nov-13 21:05:59

Just be aware that even standard cotton in the UK can be very hot by Australian standards! Where we live is warm and even the M&S tshirts make DS sweaty by spring time.

Agree that even though it may be more expensive it may be worth waiting to buy too much.

People do give you lots of things, and like someone said upthread, you don't know until your baby arrives whether you'll have a pukey one / sweaty one / scratchy one / giant one, which will really change what you need to buy. While big ticket items are cheaper in the UK, the difference for a few vests or little items will only be a few dollars.

Your list so far is very sensible, good luck!

surgicalwidow Mon 18-Nov-13 23:57:21

Friends in Oz have been appalled at how expensive baby things are there eg a euro / nappy (five times the price of in Ireland!) so I'd suggest buying lots of vests and sleepsuits for up to 6 months as well as all the other items suggested and shipping them. You 'll save a fortune and also won't need to worry about sussing out the best baby shops there for a while.

1charlie1 Tue 19-Nov-13 09:48:57

So grateful for all tips, thanks so much. And it's actually helpful when posters repeat items, PartPixie, because it helps me see which things are popular with everybody. So thanks for any of your repetitions! (and great to hear you like the Waterwipes) And I guess I'll be waiting until I get to Oz to get the dreaded bra fitted!
Teaandflapjacks, will be sure and get some baby oil to pack. And I was shocked when I arrived at how cheap the Johnson's baby shampoo was compared to Oz. I use it to wash my nice woollens, so it was a pleasant surprise to find it so cheap. Thank you for your good wishes.
Sunny, it is bloody freezing here in the UK at the moment, but Melbourne can be pretty darn cold. I visited with DH last July/August, and he was cold a lot. Complained in a way he never does in the UK. And he's a big furry Englishman! (Then we went adventuring up north, and it was 30s all the way across the top... bliss) It's the lack of central heating in a lot of houses there, especially. But I think I'll go for a few more short sleeved vests- especially if I have the baby in a sling, it will also be kept pretty warm by my body heat, right? I'm quite surprised and very curious that you say that it's the big ticket items which are cheaper in the UK - I've found the opposite when searching and comparing online. Like, the cot we're getting is the same price in both countries, but for clothes/ wipes/ blankets/ boring basics it's literally pounds difference for every item, which adds up very rapidly.
surgicalwidow, I would love to buy some nappies to ship, but I know it's a bit pointless as we'll have no idea of the baby's size. Not sure why this stuff is so much more pricey in Oz, unless it's sheer weight of numbers here in the UK which keeps prices down.

1charlie1 Tue 19-Nov-13 09:50:06

Love the squirt bottle idea too! I have one somewhere, unused... it's going in the shipping container! Just in case...

earlgray Tue 19-Nov-13 10:23:22

Baby gym. My dd doesn't like being put down anywhere but is learning to spend time in her baby gym giving me valuable hands free time. They are good from birth too.
FWIW I avoided scratch mits on my MW's advice. They learn quickly not the scratch themselves and the sense of touch is iimportant. My dd didn't do any damage to herself at all without mits.

earlgray Tue 19-Nov-13 10:38:05

Also, if you don't like wearing a bra then wait til after dc is born to get them. I have found it so much easier to feed without a bra and have never used the ones I bought because dd can't latch properly, the cup doesn't move out the way enough.
Depending on how sore your boobs become a hidden support vest might be better in the early days.

1charlie1 Tue 19-Nov-13 19:00:34

A support vest is the best idea yet, earlgray!! I really don't find bras comfortable, but a support vest will at least give my breasts a 'resting place'. And I guess I can still use the pads/ witchhazel etc without a bra, if there's at least some supportive padding in the vicinity of my boobs.
I'll see about the scratch mits. I don't really fancy them, but I remember my SIL saying she wouldn't use them, and my DN then slashed his cheek a whopper as a brand newborn, and was shown off to all the admiring visitors with a nasty welt. She used them for quite a while after that. But who knows if he would have done it again?

chubbychipmonk Tue 19-Nov-13 20:44:14

A Savoy cabbage chilling in the fridge for when your milk comes in. . . The pain of engorged breasts is almost as bad as labour itself confused

The relief of a cold cabbage leaf inside my bra was unbelievable!

LongTailedTit Tue 19-Nov-13 22:17:08

If you buy bandana-style bibs, the best ones I found had a cotton top layer and a fleece backing - the cotton absorbed the dribble/sick and the fleece kept it off their skin.

Best genius tip I ever read on MN: those envelope neck onesies? They're designed to be pulled down over the body after a poonami, so you don't have to pull them over the baby's head. A revelation!!! grin

See if you can find a fine jersey infinity scarf/long snood, they make great breastfeeding covers and impromptu blankets/sunshade amongst other things, they're very versatile things! Because the fabric is a loop, I even used mine as an emergency sling once.

The Ergo is a VERY good buy, well done, DS was regularly in his until 2.5 - only reason we stopped recently is that I'm now too pregnant to use it!
Can also recommend the HippyChick HipSeat, great if they're up and down contantly when a sling can be a faff.

InchBlue, Daisy Roots and Robeez type soft leather pram shoes are fantastic for small babies and crawlers, and up til cruising stage. DS wore his as slippers up til now - he's finally outgrown the largest size.
Easily found 2nd hand on eBay.

You'll need a good roomy changing bag, if you'll be slinging possibly a backpack? Whatever you use make sure it has a waterproof section/insert! There will be lots of grim wet stuff you don't want to get mixed up with your wallet when rummaging for a clean mussie... It'll probably end up being your handbag for a couple of years, so best to get something simple and versatile - lots of satchel-type actual handbags make great change bags, or this style at Cath Kidston seem v popular with my friends, and comes with a change mat etc too.

1charlie1 Wed 20-Nov-13 10:14:06

A chilled Savoy cabbage... check. Thanks for the tip!
That is a brilliant tip re the 'over the body haul', thank you LongTailedTit. I had no idea.
We're loving the ergo already, even without a LO! DH had his first really broody moment, when he unpacked the infant insert. Very cute.
A backpack! Your suggestions made me google 'backpack baby change bag', and I found the PacaPod Picos Pack rucksack. (I tried to link before, and lost my whole post, so I'm not going to try this time) Looks awesome, and even though I like the Kidston one you linked, this one is a bit more gender neutral - I want DH to feel really comfortable taking the baby out without me, and he is quite blokey and outdoorsy. The idea of a backpack makes sense, as I was feeling vaguely worried about managing 'stuff' without a pram. I need to check if it's got a waterproof section though... Thanks for your suggestions, they've helped a lot.

purplemurple1 Wed 20-Nov-13 13:05:08

Re the back pack changing bag, I looked at these and they were quite pricey, so I brough a roll up change mat and am using a normal backpack, I stick in a few carrier bags for wet clotehs and it works fine.

Artandco Wed 20-Nov-13 13:30:49

Always try and look for things that double up/ last pat babyhood

Ie:

Sheepskin rug instead of baby play mat. Baby stays cool/ warm on the sheepskin, then it's a nice place for toddlers to sit/ play on, and then you can just use as a rug wherever for as long as you like.

I wouldn't get an amby nest personally as they are quite expensive and don't last very long. A cot bed in comparison lasts from newborn to approx 5-6 years

Little lamb all in one newborn - potty trained are currently £50 for 10 on the nappy lady I think. So £100 could get you all the nappies you need until they don't need them

earlgray Wed 20-Nov-13 21:50:39

RE strappy tops, Tesco have some black vests with elasticated lace straps which I've found brilliant for feeding dd using a t shirt over the top. The elasticated straps allow for really easy access. I've stocked up as they get a bit mucky with baby dribble and milk, only £4.

Bloob Wed 27-Nov-13 12:44:54

I think it's extremely unlikely that the babies size will affect what nappies you buy. Pampers size 2 is 6-13 lbs. I think it's pretty unlikely that dc will not fit into that. Even if smaller, they'll grow into it and it will save you money long term.

I'm a bit shock at people saying 6 vests / sleep suits!! These people are clearly far more organised than me! 6 wouldn't have got us through the day, and I would have been stressing trying to get them through the wash and dry. They are so cheap second hand I would buy A LOT more than that. We had closer to 2 dozen and I was grateful! Though consider whether you're going to have more dc, we're on dc3 now and the second hand ones we had for dc1 are beginning to fall apart a bit. In hindsight may have been better value to buy new than to replace some stuff.

I would second getting a cheap pram. My ds hated the sling by 6 m and I would not be able to comfortably carry him for the day now (16m).

I loved those baby gowns too. They are great! Definitely some lovely blankets for cuddling in as well as sleeping bags. Bouncer or swing seat too. I loved my swing - saved my sanity!!

We bought an amby second hand and it was great. If cost an issue maybe not though as I dont know if its THAT great?

fuckwittery Wed 27-Nov-13 13:33:22

I've got a 6 week old (DC3) and these are my current essentials
I'd get pack of 6 newborn sleepsuits, and 6 vests
Same in 0-3 and 3-6m
You might need a few tiny baby sleepsuits too, say 4

Socks (3 pairs) hats (3) bibs (4) muslins (6)
Blankets x 4 in differing thicknesses
Couple of swaddle blankets

Cardies x 3 in newborn and 0-3 months
If baby will be in a sling all the time you shouldnt need a snowsuit

Infacol and gripe water
Dummies!

I just wash baby in plain water and oil it.

I'm not a fan of baby gowns for winter babies as then you have to get baby dressed to go out, sleepsuits can be worn day and night in and out the house just add layers

I should think you'll only need water wipes for the first 4 weeks or so, and in the house you can use cotton wool and water, then normal sensitive wipes should be Ok. So sounds like enough packrts

BohemianRaspberry Wed 27-Nov-13 13:46:22

This made a useful consult for us (*we didn't get everything on it* - a lot of it is excessive!) http://www.johnlewis.com/inspiration-and-advice/family/archive/nursery-checklist - we've done nearly everything you can do secondhand. The list seems lacking in the clothing - only as if you have a sicky baby they can get through sleepsuit after sleepsuit.

I third getting a pram/buggy - I want to use the sling too but recognise that with CS, back pain, increasing child heaviness, the need to stupid amounts of stuff - you need the transport.

Changing bag - I'm going to be using an overnight bag I've had for the last five years - it has all the pockets that a changing bag has, just needs a fold-up mat in it.

For warmth - you may need a snowsuit but a fleecy one might just be enough for the Melbourne winter. For cheapness - ASDA, Primark and Tescos are awesome for multipacks of suits/socks/mittens etc. Equally our stuff came from Sainsburys when they had 25% off clothing.

For wipes/wiping - when they are newborn you can/should use cotton wool and water - Asda do wipe pads for £1 for 50 or so.

Also, if you are due in April, start looking at the prices of shipping a large box of baby stuff now - may work out a lot cheaper and you have time for it to go on the go-slow. Friends now in NZ sent over a crate of their nursery stuff a month before they moved because it was cheaper. Also, start scounting our the second-hand market in Aus.

alyant79 Wed 27-Nov-13 14:49:04

Lots of people have already said lots of useful stuff, but just wanted to chime in with my 2 cents worth.
We went completely pram free and also co-slept. We bought a bednest and it was WONDERFUL, but I have to say that once baby was a few weeks old she pretty much moved into our bed permanently - she'd always start in the bednest though. (before then i would move her back into the bednest after bf, but she would often wake up. so much easier just to snuggle with her) No duvet is right, but you can layer up with blankets instead. She lay on top of them in her sleeping bag (would second that you need to buy baby sleeping bags, we had two of each size - picked them mostly up at nct sales quite cheap).
I disagree about sleeping between you and the edge. I did a lot of reading, and it turns out that baby is perfectly fine between you and DH if that's the way you've always done it. It's all to do with the hormone levels making you sleep lighter (and therefore less likely to roll onto and smother baby). Some people say that those hormones are only elevated in mums, but that's not true they are also elevated in a switched-on dad who takes equal share in baby care. So he is no less likely to roll onto baby than you are. Definitely no alcohol and no smoking when cosleeping.

We had a moby wrap until DD was about 4-6 months and then we switched to an ergo. We did actually have a pram that was given to us for free, but the only times I ever tried to use it, DD ended up in the sling and our shopping went in the pram. without fail. We still use our ergo and DD is now 2.4.
My big tip is not to worry about getting a proper changing bag. We did, but rarely used it. So much easier to just use a normal backpack, especially with bub in a sling. Get a skiphop pronto changing station to pop in your backpack. Best thing ever.

SERIOUSLY consider using cloth nappies. They are very popular in Aus and there are loads of good brands. We've used itti bitti tutto one size since DD was about 8 weeks. She's just been toilet trained and they've lasted all this time. Massive saving of money. Especially if one day you have another bub you can use them again. Also I highly recommend reusable wipes. they can clean up the biggest pooplosion. My DH was very sceptical until i got him to clean up a poo and he saw the difference.

Finally - don't buy too many clothes, you don't know what size of baby you'll have. You might have the type that never even fits into newborn size, or (like me) a skinny minny who wears newborn for months and then almost overnight needs 6 month size.

sorry for essay

Scaredycat3000 Wed 27-Nov-13 15:40:38

Everytime one of these essential baby lists comes up I read them thinking 99% of this stuff is not essential in any way! Then I remember it was not essential for my DC grin My own personal essentials list would now read;

4/6 layflat sleep suits. DC1 had no neck control, if I had to try and feed his floppy body though a neck hole I didn't use it, DC2 could hold his head up from birth confused Also no need for socks as their feet were covered. Neither of them posseted, vomited or had explosive poos to speak of.

5m of stretch jersey, cut in two down the length = two stretchy wraps. This also keeps DC warm when out, no need for blankets, snow suits etc. By the time they are growing out of this you will have a better idea of what buggy you may or may not want.

Nappies, disposable until they are big enough to fit into birth to potty washable nappies. My favourite are the cheap Chinese pocket nappies on ebay.

Somewhere for them to sleep and a couple of sleeping bags and relevant bedding.

Muslins from different shops, Ikea huge and thick, boots thin, soft and small. Both useful, in different ways.

Various pads to mop up all the things coming out of me.

Rucksack clips to change my bras to drop cup bras.

A bag big enough to hold some baby wipes, change of clothes, muslin, nappy plus usual stuff.

I had easy babies, except I haven't slept in nearly 5years!

apocketfulofposy Wed 27-Nov-13 16:53:50

not sure if anyone else has said but Morrck baby hoodies are good,they are like big blankets with a hood attatched and holes in so they can go into car seats and pushchairs,i find snowsuits and coats a bit fiddly on newborns and they never look comfy in them,so i just put them in warm clothes and one of those baby hoddies,they do different warmths.

Jaffakake Wed 27-Nov-13 18:08:18

I tried washable nappies but ds peed for England so I got fed up of having a wet lap in the end. I can't recommend Cheeky Wipes enough - washable wipes. They're great at dealing with the worst poop (actually grabs the poop rather than spreads it about!) and also to have later for hands & faces (& milk so lodges & Nutella on the furniture!).

I had 2 gro bags. One to wear & one to wash/have clean. Gro bags come with a handy room thermometer.

We're still using the bath thermometer & thermometer 2 years in. Don't bother with the Braun in ear one, its inaccurate. A cheap digital one from mothercare is just fine.

I found a sponge thing in the bottom of our big bath worked much better than a baby bath. Babies are very sloppy & he really liked Lyon on the mat & kicking in the water. The one I had was American though.

katy14 Wed 27-Nov-13 19:17:55

Baby sleeping bags. We have used both grobags and purflo sleepsacs. The latter is better for newborns imo and have arms that zip on for colder months. our dd was born in April last year and we were actually snowed in on my due date. Thankfully she was late and we were able to get out but we had to plan for cold. We live on a farm in the pennines so always colder than the nearest town. we had lots of vests, socks abd cardigans. a couple of hats and pairs of gloves as well as a snowsuit. muslins are a must. our dd had reflux for the first few months and would have been lost without them. agree that sleepsuits will do for sometime. Hope that helps and best of luck in oz.grin

Mumzy Wed 27-Nov-13 19:19:56

I had one of these bath net support slings which you could use in a baby bath or normal bath. Newborns are small and slippery and difficult to support when washing them. Using one of these enabled me to have my hands free to wash and play with ds1,ds2and dd. the net also slips off the rack and can be chuncked in the washing machine for washing. When babies got older I use to put them on the support and shower them making bathtimes much quicker
www.ebay.com/itm/Infant-Baby-Boy-Bath-Sling-/161160361903

puggle01 Wed 27-Nov-13 19:41:48

scaredycat can you explain the rucksack clip bra conversion? I'm intrigued but a bit baffled!

NearTheWindmill Wed 27-Nov-13 20:26:55

OP, I've just skimmed through this again and there is one very important thing that has been missed although I'm sure your baby will have lots. It's a funny old thing called LOVE. It's really all any baby needs apart from food and warmth.

Scaredycat3000 Wed 27-Nov-13 22:45:09

puggle My boobs shot up to a 34HH, I couldn't get a decent bra in that size. The poor support left me with a horrible under boob rash and mono boob (no wire). Then I read that you can wear wire whilst breast feeding, after your boobs calm down, so long as it fits very well and so the wires do not dig in any boob flesh. I also suspect some people are more prone to blocked ducts than others, I wasn't. I cut the clips off an old drop cup bra, cut the straps and sewed them on an underwired bra and the clip broke first wear! So I bought those plastic clips, mostly found on rucksacks, worked well, you couldn't see the lump though my clothes, a little fiddly at first but over all I was much happier.

perfectstorm Thu 28-Nov-13 01:56:21

Agree on reusable wipes, but no need to buy the poncey specific kind. Cheap facecloths from IKEA do the job, and you can get a set of 12 for less than a fiver - could, anyway. For out and about I used to buy Waterwipes in bulk from Amazon or Ocado too. No chemicals at all, yet still disposable. Reading the ingredients on standard babywipes put me off using them when DS was a baby, so I agree it's worth it. If you combine with flannels then that reduces the cost. But you go through a LOT when changing a bad poo out and about, so it might be worth doubling that number.

Babies grow so fast, so I'd buy babygrows from Mothercare or a supermarket (when babies you want the kind that go over feet, NOT the footless, because the poppers are easier to do up). No need for outfits - DS never wore them as they sleep so much, and would you want to in jeans or dungarees? And a sling is all you need for a newborn unless you have serious SPD, or other mobility issues, so that's sorted too.

I'd buy second hand cashmere baby cardies from Ebay to go over the babygrows. Non-itchy and much warmer than anything else, but also not likely to overheat. Take a baby sheepskin - so useful and the exchange rate may mean even a locally produced one is cheaper here (check, though). Fleece hats for the slings are also handy.

I never bothered with vests for winter - a warm cardy and blankets were just as good and comfier for the baby than 2 of cotton, I think. What I would swear by are baby nighties - they call them bundlers - for nights. You can change the baby so much more easily when exhausted and sleep deprived and the baby isn't wailing because you're faffing with their legs. Don't buy them new, though; they show up on Ebay a lot, very cheaply. A snowsuit/teddy bear suit is good for a sling in winter - second hand off Ebay again, as they outgrow them so fast they'll be in as-new condition from all those gullible first time mums like I was buying shiny new for their PFB. Better environmentally to reuse, as well as cheaper.

NCT is expensive - you can buy muslins etc more cheaply elsewhere I think? But NCT sales are brilliant, if you look to see if one is local to you that might be a shortcut to quality items at a good price.

DS had really sensitive skin and we found NATY nappies far and away the best disposables, everything else gave him nappy rash. Cloth nappies did too, and it was only when we switched washing powder to Surcare for all his clothes that we realised what was causing his eczema, so we think washing powder was a major issue for nappies, now. Surcare you can order from the website at a massive discount over supermarkets, so I'd have some put in your container.

A bath thermometer is really handy - I was so tired I might not have checked with elbow; a floating one was easy peasy. Baby toothbrushes are cheaper here and so small you can bung in - they can start to teethe really surprisingly small. Baby nailclippers too. Calpol and Calbrufen are useful though be careful not to use as a first resort, as they're linked to asthma. But so good to have at hand when the baby is snuffly. Also Karvol drops for blocked tiny noses (drip on muslin in cot).

In all honesty you don't need much clobber for a small baby. Most people have piles of stuff they never use. The necessary clobber stage starts once they're more mobile and need toys, books, a wider range of clothes etc.

kiwee Thu 28-Nov-13 02:30:11

I think most things have been covered already but if you do forget anything M+S currently have free shipping to NZ and Aus if order over 30 pounds (used to be any amount) - I guess this could change at any time but it's been going nearly a year so far!

Shakshuka Thu 28-Nov-13 02:41:13

I just have to point out that it's MUSLINS not MUSLIMS!!!

Although it did make me giggle the post which said
We have so many Muslims they are coming out of our ears

I thought the thread had been hijacked by the EDL!!

It has been mentioned before, but of everything on your list the bouncy chair was the most important for me. I didn't get one to start with, and life improved no end when I did. It is somewhere to put your baby when you eat, and most have a toy bar which keeps them happy for a least a few minutes. Ours went everywhere with us when we travelled.

ChaffinchOfDoom Thu 28-Nov-13 09:18:32

can someone link to those babygown things? never heard of them, are they like the sleeping bags? my google just links to christening gowns.

thanks!

MrsBright Thu 28-Nov-13 09:48:34

Babies grow whoppingly fast - literally overnight. So this means that little sleepsuits (0-3months) will only fit for 12 weeks max (and far less if you have a big baby). So it isnt worth buying expensive designer jobs, however cute they look. The basic ones from Tesco etc will do fine - multi packs of plain colours are the cheapest. If you have a baby that pukes alot then its easy to get through 3+ sleepsuits a day - but they dry very quickly on a radiator so even then you wont need any more than 6 to start with.

If its a winter baby you'll also need a couple of small cardigans to keep baby warm - again the very basic white acrylic things from Tescos will do fine.

Dont invest in 'unwashable' crib/cot blankets - soft fleece jobs are the best as they wash/dry so quickly. You'll use blankets for heaps of things other than in the cot - to lie them on the floor, block out the sun from a car window etc, so several extra ones are always useful.

If you can, get people to give you gift cards/££ rather than 'cute clothes' as a baby gift. My DD got given 19 (yes 19) 'adorable dresses' six 0-3. Since wee babies spend 95% of their time asleep in a cot, she didnt wear one of them. Accept any 2nd hand baby clothes on offer - I started with the 'I want my baby to have everything new' mentality and soon realised it was nuts given the cost of baby clothes and how quickly DD outgrew them.

Most useful pressies I received were a pack of brushed cotton baby-wraps (endless uses) and a pack of baby washcloths (essential for baby bathtime) - DD is now 13 and still wraps Teddy in one of those cotton wraps.....

Good Luck!

perfectstorm Thu 28-Nov-13 09:57:02

Chaffinch they're called bundlers over here - John Lewis sell them. Brilliant things, like babygrows that just have a long (long!) skirt and then loosely elasticated at the end. But I always bought mine 2nd hand, as babies outgrow things so fast at that age that they're barely worn by their first owners.

ChaffinchOfDoom Thu 28-Nov-13 10:15:47

a-ha! bundlers. great. never discovered them with my 1st 2 dc but after anything that makes it easier this time! thank you.

Fairy1303 Thu 28-Nov-13 10:21:41

Nipple cream (lanolin)
Baby grows with scratch mits built in
Babygrows with poppers down the middle

Baby sleeping bags
Lots of cellular blankets
Muslins

MrsMarigold Thu 28-Nov-13 11:00:51

Buy a baby bjorn bouncy chair - they are the best - pack flat and are safe when you need to pop the baby down to go to the loo/cook. Also keeps them upright so they don't puke!

principalitygirl Thu 28-Nov-13 12:04:18

For you:

distilled witch hazel from any pharmacy - use to ease sore undercarriage esp after stitches or tearing. soak a maternity pad with it and put in your knickers. if v sore, put pad in fridge for a bit too. heaven!

white noise CD or phone app - soothes crying babies

even if planning to BF get a decent breast pump and a few bottles in just in case of problems.

if BF-ing, lots of vest tops with stretchy straps (from primark or most supermarkets) - you can wear them under a loose top or jumper and BF easily by pulling the loose top up and then pulling neckline of vest top down. Gives you more wardrobe options and cheaper than BF specific clothes.

for baby:

I second the eBay clothes bundle recommendation. I've had great stuff v cheap that way and even better if seller is local and you can collect in person to save on postage.

loads of cot / pram / Moses basket fitted sheets - or use normal pillow cases as pram or Moses basket mattresses will fit inside. newborns sick up loads in my experience.

a car seat snuggle / footmuff thing - wearing thick coats and snowsuits on babies when in car seats is dangerous if you have a crash and they can also overheat. I found them a faff to get on an off too. will post a link showing the kind of thing I mean.

principalitygirl Thu 28-Nov-13 12:13:01

oh and look for sleepsuits with integral foldover scratch mitts. next definitely do them. my little one just wouldn't keep normal scratch mitts on. he was v active from newborn hence blankets not working on the car seat in our case.

MightilyOats Thu 28-Nov-13 14:42:14

Bath thermometer is a good idea.

If you go down the cloth wipes route (and can recommend), then don't follow the instructions and leave them wet as they quickly go manky. We hung them up to dry/put on radiator and just had a stack of dry ones to use as and when needed. We used a thermos jug which could be filled up with hot water from the bathroom in the morning, and would last all day, a tupperware bowl and you're sorted grin

Definitely going to try the easing the poosplosion vest down the shoulders rather than over the head this time round!

Boots were good for washable pads - get a few packs if you can as I always seemed to run out as I'd forgotten to wash them. They come in a little net bag to keep them all together. Eco rainbow on facebook sell nice soft minky ones if you fancy splashing out a bit.

If you do go for a pushchair try a few out first and then find second hand, the one I went for (oyster), buckled everytime it went down a kerb onto the road confused

NewBlueShoesToo Thu 28-Nov-13 14:58:38

Bundlers, nighties whatever they see called are brilliant.
All mine hated Moses baskets but loved carrycot.
Chocolate for you.
Baby cardigans.
Don't buy too much because you will either be able to go shopping or internet shop for the things that are useful.
Also the less you can manage with then the less stuff you will need to tidy , wash or find. Children soon fill houses with vast amounts of kit!

perfectstorm Thu 28-Nov-13 16:35:27

Oh yes, seconding the never putting a baby in a coat/snowsuit and then in a carseat. It's really dangerous, as you can't pull the straps that tight, but in a crash the force compresses them against the padded clothes and so effectively your baby has really loosely attached straps and gets thrown about. You need them when icy for a sling (and Melbourne is COLD in winter, I agree - you can go skiing quite nearby) but never in a car seat.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Thu 28-Nov-13 16:47:02

Sorry if this has already been said but the best deal I've found on baby bundlers is at M&S where they are 2 for £10 smile

I didn't know about them with DS but I'm 32 weeks pregnant again and this time I'm prepared for the night changes!!

saragossa2010 Thu 28-Nov-13 18:18:32

We did not buy much (not much money at the time). We scoured jumble sales and got a lot of vests, and baby gros for virtually nothing. You can easily go through 6 vests and 6 baby gros in one day (I kid you not) as babies leak from every turn and you are so exhausted putting on the washer every day (which is essential) is difficult. However some relatives might buy you or pass you down things.

Other than that (the basic clothing), we bought no bottles (as not bottle fed) but did buy a carry cot or moses basket for it to sleep in although plenty of parents sleep with their baby so even that is not necessarily essential although helpful to have somewhere safe to put a baby when you're busy.

We just washed it in the bath so no special baby bath. We did find a baby bouncer useful as you can put it in there after a bit and pushing it up and down with your foot whilst doing something else.We never had things like a special towel - they can just use your own.

Carlat86 Thu 28-Nov-13 21:03:58

Sleep suits! For the first couple of weeks your baby will just live in sleep suits. No point getting them dressed into clothes because they spend most of their time fast asleep or feeding. I bought countless baby grows that just stayed in the packet because my DS had grown out of newborn by the time I started to dress him in the day. Although I did have a very long 8lb 12 baby.

Xmasbaby11 Thu 28-Nov-13 21:33:30

12 vests, 12 sleepsuits. Unless you want to do washing every day.

Cookethenook Fri 29-Nov-13 10:50:20

It depends how often you wash, but i would say 6-8 sleep suits and vests. Our baby grew SO fast and still is at 6 months (in 9-12 m stuff now) so we had so many clothes that were unworn. It's depressing to thing how much money we wasted sad If you need more, you can always buy more when the baby arrives.

Socks. Ones with long stretchy cuffs. Esp if it's chilly as your baby will get chilly feet in a sling.

2 Cardigans. And perhaps one of those fleecy suits for outdoors? I'm not sure how cold it will be.

Car seat.

Def look into reusable wipes and nappies. I'm ASTOUNDED how much those water wipes are! Thats about a tenner off the full kit of cheeky wipes and you would have had wipes to potty training and beyond! I believe Gnappies are an oz company and i've heard really good stuff about their nappies.

Muslin squares.

Largeish soft blankets (at least 2) which are also suitable for swaddles, like celular blankets. Many pre-shaped swaddles don't allow for healthy-hip swaddling.

We use a folded up towel for a changing mat.
Washed in the sink and then in a bucket which he looooved!
Bath thermometers are silly imo. You can feel if a bath is too hot with your hand!

Lahsinoh if you're planning on breastfeeding. If you don't end up using it on your nips, it makes great lip balm!

Cot if you're not going to co-sleep. As i said, DS would have lasted about 2 weeks in a moses basket! We got a £35 ikea cot and i couldn't recommend it highly enough! If you get a cot, the anglecare baby monitor is invaluable. It was the most expensive piece of kit we bought, but it's given me so much piece of mind with the movement monitor.

Thats it. Not much ay ;)

perfectstorm Fri 29-Nov-13 11:14:51

I can't feel if a bath is too hot for a baby with my hand, because I like them scalding hot myself - I still use the thermometer to bathe my 5 year old, because to me 40 is about the right temp for a nice cool bath, with 43 ideal.... and he wails at anything over 38! grin I think the advice to use your elbow rather than your hand indicates it's a common issue. I suppose it depends on what your own preference for bathing temperature is?

I'd usually agree on not buying more than you need, but as the cost of everything is so very much higher these days in Australia than it is in the UK (and they don't have the same sort of mega supermarkets we do), and you can buy multipacks of sleepsuits for a few quid in our huge supermarkets, I'd say to take at least 12 at each age. Apart from anything else, you may need to wash less, and the cost of buying the suits is far less than washing them, over their use. So fewer washes means less cost. And if you have a reflux baby, who brings up a massive torrent of milk with each feed, you can be changing more than 8 times a day in the earliest weeks. We were.

Agree totally on not needing a baby bath or a change mat. Total waste of money. Baby towels are, too - a normal bath towel is fine for drying a baby. And as mentioned, cheeky wipes are just a very expensive way of buying face flannels, though a saving on wipes. These from IKEA are cheap as chips and do the job just as well. I used water wipes when out and about, as I didn't want to be lugging pooey wipes around, but at home we used reusables.

Finally, Angelcare baby monitors have been recalled in the USA and Canada because they've killed a couple of babies. sad I wouldn't get one, myself.

perfectstorm Fri 29-Nov-13 11:37:20

I was thinking about the difference in costs between the countries, which I think are hard to grasp if unused to them: those flannels from IKEA are £3 here, which is $5.31. Yet the same flannels are $7.99 in Aussie IKEA, which is £4.45. That sort of markup applies across the board.

Things have completely reversed in terms of costs of living between the two since the global financial crash. In 2004, £40 bought me $100. Now, it would get me $70. So advising the OP to wait until she has the baby, and to buy things then, is to tell her not to spend 15 on an extra 6 sleepsuits (and that isn't the basics range, which would get her 9), but to spend that on 3. It doesn't seem like a sensible economy to gamble on being able to make, given she can also cut her laundry bills by having a few extras.

Surya Fri 29-Nov-13 12:26:46

Just to add that I too didn't have a pram with DD, and this was after an epistiomy. It really depends on how you live: I do the weekly food shop with DH, so no lugging heavy shopping bags for me. Pkus, I'm very used to walming around. Also, you don't need to buy a wrap specially designed to carry a baby(though the do make things easier): my favorite wrap is a silk and wool mix saree with a bit of stretch (which originally belonged to my mother, and which I've previously worn. I'm hoping DD too will wear it one day. Sniff)

We found washable nappies a doddle, but I'd suggest using disposables the first few weeks, until you've found your feet a bit and the baby is past the meconium stage (which must be hell to get off nappies!)

Baby bjorn bouncer and bednest are great!

Cookethenook Fri 29-Nov-13 12:31:53

We secured the wires to the wall using cable clips hmm there is absolutely no chance that our baby could pull them out. My DP has tried. It doesn't take a total genius to know that you don't leave dangling cables next to a baby's cot. I'm pretty sure it said in the instructions not to leave the cables loose too...

We chose cheeky wipes for a number of reasons.
1) they're so good at cleaning that you only need 1 wipe. No need for entire flannel sized piece of cloth.
2) they're a quarter of the size of flannels, so you only need a few when traveling. We cut flannels to begin with, but they just went raggedy and we had to throw them away within the first 3 weeks
3) they come with storage- a clean box, a mucky box, a mesh bag for washing and 2 travel bags. You can get the smaller kits without the mucky box, mesh bag and mucky travel bags if you're using cloth nappies as you'll already have that stuff.
4) i priced the whole kit myself (clippy storage boxes, wipes, bags, essential oils) using the cheapest items i could find on the net and it came out more expensive.

They also have great offers on every few months or so. I'm not saying don't make them yourself, but for us Cheeky wipes were the clear choice.

Most of the shops i buy from (m&s, next, sainsburys) do packs of 3 for sleepsuits and packs of 5 for vests, but if you can buy packs of 12 in Oz, then you might as well go for it.

Cookethenook Fri 29-Nov-13 12:42:57

Sorry, not more expensive, but only £6 cheaper than we got out kit for.

perfectstorm Fri 29-Nov-13 12:47:39

It's just so much cheaper, if you use the IKEA version. Same principle, but less cost - always good to me!

Sadly, over the monitor, not all parents do seem to have realised that or babies wouldn't have died - they can't be unloving parents, or they'd not have bought the monitors to start with. (That's the most heartbreaking thing of all, really. They were trying to do the best possible thing for their babies.) So the warning is worthwhile, I think. In all honesty I wouldn't get a monitor like that anyway because I'd be more anxious if I had it, in a funny way, and cot death is thankfully rare now the smoking/back to sleep campaigns have worked so well. I can see why they reassure others though. Horses for courses and all that - depends on what form your anxieties take. smile

perfectstorm Fri 29-Nov-13 12:52:36

You don't need the bells and whistles, you can just bung the mucky flannels in the machine. Same as nappies - why soak things in teatrea oil and a special box, when there's a nappy bucket already set? And we found a big flannel useful when breastmilk poo is like runny curry sauce... grin

Again, it's all about what suits different people, isn't it? We were actually given Cheeky Wipes, and thought they were a con. You think they're amazing. Same as any other product, we can only speak as we find. smile

Cookethenook Fri 29-Nov-13 12:55:06

Ohhh, i've just thought of another odd one- small syringes. See if you can 'borrow' some from the hosp- they gave us armfuls!

I hand expressed for the first week, so they were very handy for that, but we found them really good for administering medicine and infacol rather than those stupid spoons!!

principalitygirl Fri 29-Nov-13 13:43:18

Another one for you rather than baby that I forgot in my earlier post - dry shampoo! A lifesaver when you really don't have time to wash your hair every day early on.

MightilyOats Fri 29-Nov-13 14:22:39

Lavender essential oil is great for healing after birth if you have stitches or anything - is naturally antiseptic and soothing.

We used cheeky wipes AND flannels! Flannels handy for mopping up gigantic pools of wee DS used to produce as soon as his nappy was removed grin

1charlie1 Fri 29-Nov-13 17:11:22

Oh my goodness, the thread has taken off again! I'm sorry, I haven't responded for a while, as I just took notes when it quietened down, and haven't checked for a bit. Have been price comparing between countries to see what we can get here to ship, and what we'll wait to get there (this sounds like we're ahem I'm going nuts, really not, just getting a few things which are cheaper here, and most importantly, recommended on this thread). But I bought my 'sock ons' from Mothercare the other day (someone highly recommended them upthread, and as we'll be slinging/ baby wearing with little feet constantly hanging out, I thought they seemed a great idea), and they're 20% off today! I would have saved enough for a nice coffee...

Just about to read all the other lovely suggestions, brilliant, thanks!!

yellowsnownoteatwillyou Fri 29-Nov-13 17:17:25

I've got mock ons as well to keep ds's legs and feet warm when in the sling, but am in Scotland and its freezing, he's going in his fleecy waterproof sling cover very soon.

Glad you got the sock ons, I have 4 different coloured pairs to go with different socks, because I have too much time on my hands and like them to match. grin

Will give you a tip, when changing pooey nappy, takes socks and sock ons off as they put there feet in it, much easier to clean bare feet. And if you haven't already been told pretty much all baby clothes go down the way when taking them off so you don't need drag them over their heads.

1charlie1 Fri 29-Nov-13 17:38:26

Thanks for the tip about saving socks and sock ons from poo immersion! Bloody hell, we're in for a bit of a ride...!

Forgot to say... We've been researching cloth nappies since this thread began, even though I was a bit hmm about them at the beginning when posters mentioned them. Anyway, we've just bought a stack of them this morning from the Nappy Lady website (brand chosen after pretty extensive email consults with her - she is fab). We'll be doing disposables at the beginning, just because of the endless newborn poo (so it has been suggested), but I'm so keen, having now read so much about them.

So thank you to whoever has mentioned them on this thread, as I don't think the idea would have crossed my mind. I don't actually know one single person in my family/ friendship circle who has ever used them. Am prepared for some interesting conversations...

plusonemore Fri 29-Nov-13 17:46:13

muslims grin grin grin grin grin

1charlie1 Fri 29-Nov-13 17:55:28

grin

puggle01 Fri 29-Nov-13 18:05:47

Hey charlie how did you know which sort of reusable nappy to get? Or does the nappy lady do a taster pack sort of thing?

1charlie1 Fri 29-Nov-13 18:13:57

puggle, after watching loads of Youtube vids and reading so. many. bloody. reviews. of every kind of cloth we could find, we just went for it with the Bumgenius elementals, as they seemed the most likely to fit most baby shapes (with the adjustability potential of their popper system etc). Had we been staying here, we probably would have done the taster pack thing (you can get things like that on the site), but we are saving loads buying them here, and can always sell them in Oz if worst comes to worst and our baby for some reason doesn't fit them. I was willing to take the risk.

1charlie1 Fri 29-Nov-13 18:24:18

PerfectStorm, thanks for explaining about just how much some things cost in Oz compared to here. Baby clothes in particular are extraordinarily cheap in the UK. I was in Tesco the other day and saw some short sleeved envelope vests - 5 for £5!
Sadly, I really want to buy some second hand bundles from Gumtree - unbelievably good value BUT we aren't finding out what sex we're having, and the clothes are inevitably so 'gendered'. By the time we extract the white things from a boy or girl bundle (white seems to be the only colour other than an overwhelming sea of pink or blue in the photos! Barely an orange, red, even yellow in the bundles I've seen), having paid £20 a pop for girls or boy clothes our DC has a a good chance of not wearing seems a waste. I can get a lot of gender neutral brand new baby clothes in the UK for £40, if I buy carefully.

Surya Fri 29-Nov-13 20:46:20

puggle, the nappylady.co.uk website has a detailed questionnaire based on which she suggests nappies. Plus, she also sells taster packs, and many local councils do them free or v. cheaply too.

Voldemortified Fri 29-Nov-13 21:14:21

Hi, haven't had time to read all the posts, but I am Australian, living in the UK for the last eleventybillion years, and I can vouch for the fact that everything in Australia is extremely expensive these days. Especially nappies - I could not believe how much they were last time we were there.

That said, when you do feel up to buying stuff there, Bonds (Australian brand) is wonderful for babies - babygros and singlets (vests).

Where are you OP? I have a big stash of washable nappies that I had from DD1 (shapes ones with poppers, not origami style ones). Very happy to give them away. smile

earlgray Fri 29-Nov-13 21:36:33

Might be obvious but don't use fabric softener on your nappies as it makes fabrics less absorbent!

1charlie1 Fri 29-Nov-13 22:39:09

Voldemortified, that is really very kind, thank you very much. We're in Bucks, moving Hampshire way mid-December (leaving the UK New Years). We would LOVE your DD's nappies, if it's logistically possible! thanks
I love Bonds baby clothes. Really cute. We'll definitely feel better about paying Oz prices when we're earning Oz wages.
Thanks earlgrey, it's not obvious at all. It seems logical that you'd want to put the softest cloth possible on your baby's bum, but I have read that fabric softener messes with the absorbency.

Voldemortified Sat 30-Nov-13 08:26:13

1Charlie1, pm me and let's see if we can sort something out. I will be in hampshire before xmas. smile

perfectstorm Sat 30-Nov-13 08:43:15

You don't need to be a member of the NCT to buy things from their Nearly New sales. Quality is usually very high as the cost of the classes means a middle-class demographic (in fairness, the NCT are concerned about that so they're now offering a free or vastly reduced cost option to lower income families) but people set their own prices, so it can range from daftly more than new from a supermarket to absolute bargain territory! We got some great outdoor play equipment from ours.

Sorry if you already know about them. grin

peanutbutterandbanana Sat 30-Nov-13 13:08:04

1charlie1 do try freecycle in your area - put up a request for what you want and I bet there'll be someone who will be happy to move what their DC has outgrown onto you. Newborns move up in size very quickly so you collect all the kit you think you need, turn your head for a minute and .....boom ...... they need the next size up! Freecylce is great almostasgoodasmumsnet.

1charlie1 Sat 30-Nov-13 14:08:49

Hi voldemortified, I've never sent a pm before, so just checking this works...

1charlie1 Sat 30-Nov-13 14:09:18

Haha! Clearly not! Right, will try again...

1charlie1 Sat 30-Nov-13 14:19:50

perfectstorm, that link is fab, what a shame there's nothing coming up until after we leave! Someone mentioned NCT sales earlier in the thread, but when I googled, I didn't see this calendar confused Oh well... all is not lost, I will try the freecycle stuff instead (am going to look right now peanutbutter, thanks.) Went charity shopping thismorning, and found nothing in about 4 stores that looked salvagable - again, so gendered, and nothing for really little ones.

Abzs Sat 30-Nov-13 17:17:01

The gendered colours problem is why we had the tesco packs of 5 suits - they do them in white and primary colours.

I have found the cloth nappies mean DS is in body/sleep suits a size bigger than his other clothes for the length under the bum. So you might want bigger ones sooner.

girliefriend Sat 30-Nov-13 18:46:17

If this is your first baby you will almost definately get given loads of stuff!!

My friends and family more or less kitted out dd for the first 6 months of her life!

I had minimal amounts of stuff for dd and she survived, half the things op are telling you are essential I have never even heard of grin

I would say a few packets of vests and sleepsuits, you will prob need newborn and 0-3 months unless you have a big baby.

A few little cardigans.

All in one sleep suit.

A few little hats

Muslims

A moses basket (even if you are thinking of co-sleeping I would still have one just in case plus they are handy for putting newborns in when they are asleep in the day)

Some nice cosy blankets

A sling

I actually agree with you about not getting a pram, that is my one regret with dd - I wasted so much money on a pram that she only used for 3 months until I got fed up with how cumbersome it was and got a maclaren buggy!!

MrsMarigold Sun 01-Dec-13 10:55:01

Maternity bras wish I'd bought loads more!
Baby bouncer vital.
Muslins.
Good breastfeeding tops.

People buy loads for the baby but not so much for the mum!

teacherwith2kids Sun 01-Dec-13 13:29:03

OK.

We moved to the US when DS was about 6 weeks old, and had to take everything that he needed with us in the plane - so a little bit similar to your situation, though we did do a 'foldable pushchair suitable from birth' as well.

Clothes:
- Vests (at least 6, possibly more as in the early days it is quite possible to need a vest per nappy change)
- Babygros (as above)
- Hat
- A slightly warmer layer - cardigan? Probably 2 or 3 of those
- You might want to get a few pairs of socks in case you get given 'outfits' when your child is born, as these tend to come without socks.

Looks like you are already sorted for nappies.

Sleeping
- Sleeping bag
- A couple of cellular blankets. Although these aren't so useful for actual sleeping, they can come in really handy for general 'wrapping a tired baby'
- Somewhere to put your baby to sleep during the day. If you plan to co-sleep, and don't have a pushchair that lies flat to put them down in, it is useful to have somewhere safe to put them when they sleep in the day [well, mine didn't sleep at all during the day but I understand that most babies do....]. We went for a Moses basket, but tbh we also used a large firm floor cushion that we already had in those early days.

Bathing / Changing
- We had a foldable changing mat that was fabulous and kept going for years.
- Some soft new towels are nice as used ones tend to feel quite 'sandpapery' against your baby's skin
- Muslins
- Something wipey - cotton wool or washable wipes

Feeding
- Nursing bras
- Breast pads
- Microwave steam steriliser. www.philips.co.uk/c/avent-baby-preparing-for-feeding/scf271_51/prd/ I didn't think that I would need one, but in the end it turned out to be invaluable. It doesn't use an electricity supply, so can be used abroad. It contains 1 starter bottle, which I found useful for expressed milk etc, and if you are a little ingenious it can be used to sterilise all sorts of things - different bottles, all kinds of stuff.

Health
- Baby thermometer + Calpol. DS was ill quite soon after we arrived abroad, and I was so relieved to be able to put my hand out for 'known' medication rather than having to work out new brand names, strengths, recommended ages etc.
- Also, not to pack but to find out: spend time Googling all the support networkd that you might need - breast feeding, mother and baby groups, health visitors or equivalent, etc etc. I don't know what support network you will have over there, but I found identifying who I needed to get in touch with and the type of help they gave quite tricky.

Bizarre suggestion - a huge multipack of pants for you, and lots of maternity sanitary pads. It may well be that you won't want to be finding such things just after

I had an emergency C-section, which made it hard for me to lift and meant that I added some extra stuff to my list, including a Moses basket stand and a V-cushion to fit on my lap and balance DS on while feeding.

Good luck!

Pollaidh Sun 01-Dec-13 14:35:10

Sleeping bags and sock-ons. I don't think you can get sock-ons easily outside the UK but they are great for keeping baby's socks on (otherwise you will lose tons of socks and have to end trips because their feet are cold).

You can now get little newborn sleeping bags (e.g. at JoJo Maman Bebe) and from about 6 weeks or so (depending on size of baby) sleeping bags (0-6 month size) are invaluable. We generally have 2 of each size and tog rating (2.5 tog UK winter, 1.5 or 1 tog for summer months). However we do sometimes have to do a quick wash and tumble dry, so if you don't have a dryer it might be worth getting an extra bag.

Bouncer seat, preferably with a bar across with toys dangling, and a play mat. They will play with these from about 5 weeks, or even earlier.

hazchem Mon 02-Dec-13 02:07:28

Just to quickly mention you might want to check import regulations when buying new stuff as you don;t want to be hit with 10% GST on everything you bring in. From my understanding you are not allowed to buy stuff new just before you travel. Please check it out first it would suck if you then get hit with massive GST bill.

Also check with liquids for shipping too. I can't remember but i think there are regulations around them too.

Also how much earlier then due date are you coming to Australia? You don't want to have everything in shipping.

Oh and if you are happy with second hand charity shops are loads cheaper here then in the UK.

principalitygirl Mon 02-Dec-13 13:02:07

definitely sock ons!! multiple pairs. my little one kicked his legs constantly from early on and we couldn't have managed without sock ons!

HazleNutt Mon 02-Dec-13 13:28:52

as an alternative, DS does not keep normal socks on, but knee-highs stay on nicely.

Instead of nursing bras, I always recommend getting a conversion kit for normal bras and doing your own. Saved my sanity, I was starting to hate my figure and none of my clothes fitted - of course they didn't as long as I had this cone-shaped sweaty uniboob thanks to nursing bras. Now have non-wobbly boobs back under my chin where they belong.

Katienana Mon 02-Dec-13 14:53:28

Essentials
Clothes
Short sleeve vests x12 size 0-3
Sleepsuits x12 size 0-3
1 pramsuit 0-3
2 pramsuits 3-6 months (my reason for this is that you won't go out as much anyway when baby is in smaller size, and if they are sick on the smaller size one you can get one of the bigger ones out)

Then it depends how fast baby grows and how you feel about clothes. I would want to have about 6 vests and 6 sleepsuits as a minimum so I wasn't too under pressure to get a wash on constantly. DS went into pyjamas at about 10 months but he was already in 18-24months clothes by then as he is so huge.

Misc
Fleece blankets x2 cot size, x2 moses basket/pram size
3 fitted cot sheets
3-4 moses basket sheets
6 pack of muslins
Bottles, sterilizer, breast pump (if you want to breast feed and express, otherwise you won't need the breast pump)
Breast pads
Maternity pads
Cotton wool (for nappy changes up to 6 weeks when you can swap to wipes)
Top & tail bowl (or you can just use a washing up bowl!!)
Changing mat (I'm on my second one with a 14 month old, was £3.50 in Tesco)
Changing bag with mat
Nappy sacks
Nappies
Sudocrem - huge tub, and smaller tub to go in change bag
Lansinoh for sore nipples
Nursing bras, comfy pjs, dressing gown, stretchy vest tops
Sleeping bags for baby

Big stuff
Moses basket & stand
Cotbed
Travel system - I know you want to be pram free but honestly I couldn't have managed, I was very weak after the birth and couldn't actually safely stand up and carry DS.
Highchair
Bouncy chair (goes on the floor, ours had a vibrating function that DS liked! We used to pop him in it while we ate and it kept him happy)
Travel cot - can also be used as a playpen
Safety gate

Fun stuff
Lamaze toys - cute toys with different surfaces on to amuse baby
Loopy links - plastic loops that link together and string across car seat, you can hang toys from them and they are also teething rings
Pop-up/lift the flap books
V Tech baby walker - The singing will drive you mad but it has been such good value, DS must have played with this for 100s of hours. He can walk now but still likes pushing it.
Kindle or smartphone - for you, will keep you sane during night feeds etc

Medical stuff
Calpol, nurofen, snot sucker, saline drops, vapouriser plug, baby Olbas oil, Vicks, nail scissors/clippers, lavender oil, tee tree oil (for you post birth)

Everyone's list of 'essentials' will be different because all babies are different and so are all mums! I also couldn't have done without Yorkshire Tea, coffee machine, lots of cake and a good washing machine!

sonlypuppyfat Mon 02-Dec-13 15:16:57

gimme did you mean to type muslims?

Weemee Tue 03-Dec-13 17:58:31

Mother ease one size washables with Rikki and airflow wraps. Bombproof and can be picked up second hand. Also washable breast pads esp once mill supply settles down. Much comfier and cheaper. Instead of wipes we use supermarket value facecloths and water, sometimes even when out and about. Saves a fortune! Just buy a certain colour and those are for bums only! If youre planning on slinging and no pram a good babywearing bag or I use a rucksack. Good luck!

1charlie1 Tue 03-Dec-13 20:37:56

Thanks again for great tips! Right, so I now have 2 pairs of sock ons 0-6 months, and 2 pairs for 6-12 months. I assume this will be enough?

Weemee, we're going to buy a cheap canvas haversack for use as a nappy bag, with a good wetbag inside for carting around the yucky bits we'll accumulate. I think we'll be using reusable wipes for nappy changes - again, like the cloth nappies, not something I'd even thought about until reading this thread. I've never seen reusable wipes for sale anywhere, whereas there are shelves of disposable everythings... handy on occasions, but I would like to not create a huge mound of garbage, if we can cope with using reusables.

Hazchem, thanks. We're being pretty paranoid about customs, and our shippers have already warned us that customs will scan the barcodes of everything in boxes to check if it is less than a year old. If so, tax will be payable. So nothing will be in its original packaging, and the baby's clothes will simply be mixed in with ours. And really pleased you think Oz charity shops are cheap! Looking forward to fossicking...

Thanks so much to all the posters who type out long lists. I love reading through them, and seeing which items appear again and again. It's really helped me get my head around the vast marketing machine that is aimed at the new parent. Katienana, I also think cups of tea and a good washing machine will feature heavily on my list of 'must haves'...

Teacherwith2kids, your suggestion re knickers and maternity pads is not bizarre! It's really helpful, and has reminded me to pop a couple of packets in my suitcase. Sanitary products in Oz are another thing which are very expensive, and I can't imagine maternity pads are any cheaper. Someone upthread mentioned the Tesco own brand ones as being great, so I'll see if I can grab some.

ladygagoo Tue 03-Dec-13 21:20:44

Not sure if anyone else has mentioned these but Nelsons Teetha teething granules are fabulous, particularly from about 12 weeks when the teeth start moving around in their gums and they are forever chewing their fists. Totally homeopathic they cost roughly £5 for 24 sachets. My baby massage teacher recommended them and they were (and still are at 15 months) a godsend. For tiny babies you can stick a clean finger in their mouth to wet it then dab your finger in the powder and gently rub it into their gums. Really really helps to calm them down rather than medicate.
Sometimes boots do them 3for 2

Scrumptiousboy Thu 05-Dec-13 21:25:06

Very extensive lists, but my favourites have been:
Baby Bjorn bouncer - I could not have had a shower/lunch/tea without it, my LO still loves the sound of the shower and happily sits in it at 11m when I get ready in the mornings
Merino Kids sleeping bags - great for winter and summer and have handy wholes so can easily transport baby from car/carrier/home. They go from NB to 24M in single bag so you save in the long run any money you may have to pay extra to start with.
Bug in a rug fleece wraps - they do them also in extreme weather version, which I used this winter and was fine and they do a UV version for summer. Handy
Video monitor - once baba starts to sleep in a different room, I find it essential to keep an eye on him and helps me not to rush in to let him settle himself
GAP socks - my DS is mobile and they never come off. They are also at the same time not too tight, which I have found with many others brands
Sophie teething toy - the noise is a great distractor! And all babies love them
Teething dummy - RazBerry - you get them on Amazon
My smartphone - for shopping and keeping in touch with the outside world and all those photos/little videos
DVD box sets and my kindle - for when you we glued to the sofa feeding your baba
Slip on shoes - forget laces when you have small kids!
Tommee tippee essentials pack - the nose snot cleaner and nail clippers have been a life saver
Breast pump, pads, storage bags and calma bottles have meant that I've managed extra sleep when DH was able to look after baba
A nursing scarf - doesn't need to be a special scarf, but even if you don't mind feeding in public you may need it to get your baby to focus on feeding when they get to about 4 months.
I used the Munchkin microwave steriliser bags - handy and quick
Sterilising wipes (dettol or similar) for dirty surfaces - you won't believe the state of some changing tables - and hand wipes
Tissues
Snack bars
Nappy cream

I'm sure there's more, but those come to mind now - over and above the vests and sleep suits. You may find that there is a local Facebook group for selling nearly new kids toys and clothes where you can bag a quality bargain - you can always post to say what you are looking for.

Congratulations! You've never known happiness like it

hazchem Sat 07-Dec-13 05:53:51

One final thing I'd really recommended getting in the UK is dental work! It's free while your pregnant and eye wateringly expensive in Australia. I love my consultant here but to see him is just shy of $300 and that isn't any work being done.

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