Support thread for those with a toddler and a baby

(49 Posts)
PrincessRomy Thu 10-Oct-13 20:46:00

Apologies if there already is one....

Since ds was born 10 weeks ago, on the day before dd's second birthday, life has changed somewhat. I've found lots of support on mn, started threads myself but also been aware of the many other threads started my those in a similar position to me.

These threads seem to have a theme... What the fuck is going on? How am I meant to deal with constantly feeding/needing to be picked up/waking every 2 hours baby and lively/up at 6am/needing constant entertaining toddler?

Thought it might be nice to have a thread where we can share, vent, swap tips and write our problems down. Just knowing that others are finding some days as hard as I am has been extremely helpful.

PrincessRomy Thu 10-Oct-13 20:49:50

I'll start withy day... Last night ds woke me at 12, 2, and 5 for lengthy feeds and resettling. Dd was up for the day at half six. I took them to dd's music group this am but had to leave early thanks to dd's new found habit of grabbing at other children's faces sad

Although for the first time in 10 weeks I've just got ds down to sleep in his cot before my bedtime - usually I'm in bed feeding him withy eyes closed. So I'm off downstairs to have a glass of wine WITHOUT HOLDING A BABY grin

Any tips on how to deal with a 2 year old being rough to others while you're trying to feed a baby?

PrincessRomy Thu 10-Oct-13 20:50:42

Withy = with my

roweeena Thu 10-Oct-13 21:07:31

I'll join - I have a 4 day old & a just turned 2 yo. Currently at that nice feeding and sleeping stage and husband off on paternity leave so coping but aware it is going to turn to chaos and any suggestions greatly appreciated!

Also a bit worried about what the night holds in store tonight as both toddler and husband have massive colds.

PrincessRomy Thu 10-Oct-13 21:14:57

Congratulations Roweena I'm amazed at how fast the weeks have gone. At 4 days old ds was completely nocturnal, I was like a zombie in the day. Glad things are good for you. When does your dh go back to work? Do you go to any toddler groups?

roweeena Thu 10-Oct-13 22:47:06

Dh back to work at 3 weeks, toddler already woken three times this evening & DH snoring very loudly next to me!

I think okay groups are going to be my saviour, I also gave toddler I. Childcare for 2 days per week

roweeena Thu 10-Oct-13 22:47:30

Okay = play!

Naturally2806 Fri 11-Oct-13 18:46:36

Hello!!! Could've written this about a year ago (in fact I think I did something similar.......) I have DS 2 years old and DD now 14 months. Everyone kept saying it'll get easier once the second child can sit/crawl/walk/feed themselves....... I suddenly realised the goalposts kept moving!!! What made it easier for me was DD finally stopped Breastfeeding at almost 13 months old hmm certainly wasn't my idea to keep going that long!! And when she finally started walking confidently by herself. So it's taken me almost a year to think hey, maybe I can do this after all!! I used to attempt baby/toddler groups but DS was a nightmare with snatching from other kids whilst I was trying to Breastfeed the baby. I was very lucky that after stopping going to groups altogether as I felt it unmanageable my mum came to a couple every week with me. PrincessRomy is there someone that could go with you (grandparent/friend) who could help with the toddler?? I did end up abandoning groups for quite a while and used to invite friends over with kids to play or in all honesty just invite myself over to theirs for some company!!
It is really tough- I'm not sure if it gets easier or if you just get used to the chaos that follows you everywhere!! I'm also not sure you ever really get used to the sleep deprivation or simply accept it as inevitable!
Hang on in there guys- they day you see your youngest reach for your oldest for a kiss and a cuddle will make it all worth while smile

SingSoftKittyToMe Sat 12-Oct-13 04:35:20

Dd is 2 ds 7 weeks...not enjoying life atm tp be honest. Up at 4am for the day constantly shouting at toddler, baby if not feeding or sleeping always cries and won't sleep in pram must be held everywhere. Am exhausted and dh is away for a week. I cried for 3 hours yesterday.

GaryBuseysTeeth Sat 12-Oct-13 04:44:45

Ds1 is 21m, ds2 is 9wks. We're doing 'ok', getting out, enough sleep and everyone eats fine.
Do a few toddler groups a week and try to go out for at least one walk in the park a day.

I usually plonk ds1 infront of tv with a packet of rasins (or other not so messy snack) whilst I feed ds2, having a pile of books next to me so ds1 can sit on the sofa and turn pages whilst I read...failing that asking him to do stuff 'ds1, can you pass me teddy bear/brush your hair' etc keeps mine distracted.

Softkitty, would you feel comfortablr wearing a sling? Somedays I don't take ds2 apart from nappy changes or feeds, is there anyone who can help over this weekend?

TomDaleysTrunks Sat 12-Oct-13 04:49:49

I'll join too. I have a ten week old DD and 2.5 year old DD. am flipping exhausted. Yesterday I scrapped our brand spanking new car along a wall. sad
DD2 has horrendous colic so screams A LOT. DD1 hates her crying so gets upset too. I find getting out every day helps so we go to a lot of playgroups and soft play. I find it hard as DD2 such a slow feeder; up to an hour per feed. Really hard to keep DD1 entertained that long.

TomDaleysTrunks Sat 12-Oct-13 04:50:58

kitty do you have a sling? Ours has been a godsend.

isitme1 Sat 12-Oct-13 04:51:30

Can I join?
Ds1 is 3. Ds2 is let me check is 3months.
Ds1 has medical issues was in hospital yesterday for a camera up him and down too. Ds2 was an angel nd slept through most of it.
I find it hardest when ds1 is having a flare up and am with him most of the day and ds2 is literally fed changed and put down.

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isitme1 Sat 12-Oct-13 05:01:18

Oh kitty.
Early morning brain nor letting me think

A sling does work wonders
A bit of white noise for the baby? Stick baby near washing machine or hoover or something ds1 would only sleep with white noise on up until he was 2! Made it awkward with all hospital stays at it kept others awake but helped me lol
I used the heart beat recording from one of them lionheart slumber bears. Tje the little recordee thing goes off with movement and sound so if baby moves or cries it luls it back to sleep with your chosen noise.
Think it has heart beat, water, soft music and you can record yourself singing your own lullaby grin

{Waves to tom from the due any day thread!} X

PrincessRomy Sat 12-Oct-13 05:02:22

Hi all smile

Isitme that must be really hard with additional health issues. It's hard enough without. It sounds like you're doing amazingly.

What sling is everyone using? I've just bought a second hand baba sling - not sure if I'm going to get to grips with it or not.

I'm nicking the raisins as snacks and books in a pile idea. In fact today I'm going to make a little 'breastfeeding basket' of stuff I can do with dd while feeding ds, and also put together a few 'snack packs' that I can give her that will keep her amused for a few minutes.

I've found dd's getting good with duplo and I can sit on the floor and play with her. Now the weather's getting worse I'm trying to think of good activities for her. Big paper on the floor and sponge painting is quite good but god the mess to tidy up after!

I'm hating the toddler groups at the moment as just worried dd's going to hurt someone. Going to keep ds in sling and be her little shadow next week! Going to try and not let her have any opportunity to grab someone then I can praise her loads for it not happening!

I completely understand the sentiment of not really enjoying it. I feel like that a lot at the moment then feel awful.

isitme1 Sat 12-Oct-13 08:36:09

Its harf and I feel guilty about ds2 not getting the time ds1 gets but its no one's fault.
I have a baby bjorn original that I got doing product testing years ago. Would never have known how good they are

The baskets sound brilliant
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PrincessRomy Sat 12-Oct-13 08:49:17

kitty how are you doing? Been thinking of you. Have you got good support in rl?

MiaowTheCat Sat 12-Oct-13 08:50:35

I have an 18 month old and a 7 month old (11 months between them) - it's manageable now, but we went through hell getting DD2 diagnosed with allergy issues and she's still a refluxer now (but a happy chucker at least) so I spend most days getting covered in vomit, which is much more interesting vomit now she's on solids. Now at the age where playgroups have to be done selectively as ones where cups of coffee are around are a no-go since DD2 is at the point of being frustrated and bored as hell (she can't sit up or crawl and boy is she pissed off about it), and juggling that. while wrangling DD1 who would be doing laps of the floor nicking leftover tea and toast is nigh on impossible. Local childrens centre are generally ok apart from the staff member who's decided I must never ever do tummy time (despite DD2 spending 20 minutes on her tummy the last time I was down there) and keeps harassing me about it... and the bullying by a clique of mums but that's another story.

So we don't really get out that much - especially since I never recovered from SPD.

Slings never worked for us - DD2 hated the feeling of being constrained (and I did the whole sling meet and trying different ones thing). Now she's a bit older a jumperoo is awesome because it puts her on a similar level to big sis (who she absolutely idolises) so they can almost see eye to eye and she loves that. So far DD1 hasn't tried to catapult her into orbit pulling on the elastic either!

If it's any consolation - among DD1's first words was "sister" which was hideously cute.

isitme1 Sat 12-Oct-13 18:41:03

Miaow my ds1 suffers from that too and other gastric problems, hes tube fed because of it.
I feel I should have a diploma in reflux lol as you've probably seen gps know f.a about it!
Yep we had a very cute moment today- ds1 was touching ds2s hands and they were laughing at each other! Very cute!

And yes jumperoos are brilliant!
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PrincessRomy Sat 12-Oct-13 20:08:24

Not doing badly as it's the weekend and I have dh here too. Monday I'll be having a rant here I bet! grin

mumofboyo Sat 12-Oct-13 21:37:30

I have a 17 month gap between mine, I'm a year on from you all now, and I must say that life feels almost unrecognisable; a complete change from the early blur of scream/feed/scream/vomit/scream/sleep.
Dd had reflux so I felt as though all I did was change shitty nappies, clear up sick, feed and cook and listen to screaming whilst ds did his own thing.
It seemed to get better in stages: when dd fell into a routine and slept through from 12 ish weeks; when she could sit unaided; when she was weaned and I no longer had to feed, make up bottles, sterilise, clear up sick etc; when she learned to roll and crawl... Now she's 1 and is a whirlwind of happy noise and activity and has developed a lovely, cheeky personality, she's great!
It also helped that ds never showed any jealousy and fell completely in love with his sister (more so than me, I sometimes felt) and really wanted to help out. He was also able to feed himself and was fine with playing independently, which was a God send.

I think, if I was to offer any advice, it would be the following:
Get a decent double buggy if poss, if the sling thing doesn't work. That way you can still get out, the toddler is kept contained whilst you feed and change baby. You can also. Change toddler without having to hold baby.
Ask for and accept all help.
Have toddler in some form of Childcare through the week, give you bonding time with baby.
Let baby cry if needs be, if you have lots to do and are attending to toddler.
Make plenty of time for just you and toddler, they'll be happier fir it.
Plan your time, prioritise, organise as much as poss during quieter times or when dh is around, including making meals you can just grab or throw together for yourself and toddler.

Hope this has been of some help. It does get better, over time, and in a year you'll be looking back and wondering where the months went!
Congratulations on your new babies x x

TomDaleysTrunks Sun 13-Oct-13 04:16:03

Hiya isitme! Ha, turns out the other side isn't so much fun either! Colief seems to be a miracle drug. We've had a couple of nights with no screaming, just a big feed at 7pm then down for bed. Hooray!
DH is pretty grumpy this weekend. God knows why. He's snapping at DD1 a d myself. It's v unusual, normally he's the patient one. Am hoping a good sleep will help!

Naturally2806 Sun 13-Oct-13 08:30:37

Definitely second a good double buggy. It's a lifesaver!! Still use mine now and DS is 2 and DD 1 and walking confidently.
Tiredness makes everything so hard to cope with. Especially when DC2 (and often DC1!!) waking at night!! Best thing I ever did was have DH have the kids for a couple of hours during the day at weekends so I could go upstairs and sleep. (Also very handy in allowing him to realise just how hard it is!!)
I can also second Cbeebies and a snack for DC1 whilst you are sorting out DC2. Also getting the eldest involved in "helping" seemed to work a bit for me- although hormones go into overdrive trying to protect DC2 from the clumsy advances of DC1!!!
I found grocery shopping online a lifesaver. The thought and reality of dragging the kids into a supermarket reduced me to tears.
Big hugs everyone

MrsPennyapple Sun 13-Oct-13 09:03:48

Hello, I have DD who is 2y 3m, and DS who is 9 weeks old.

DD absolutely adores her baby brother, which is great, as I dread to think how life would be if she was jealous. DS spends 90% of his time feeding, I've been trying to get chance to post on here since Thursday but rarely have both hands free. DD isn't getting as much attention as I'd like to give her, so is a bit whingy at times. On Friday though we had a tea party, which she loved. (Basically, we ate a snacky lunch on a blanket on the living room floor with some dolls sat round, with me periodically saying "what a lovely tea party!")

DD has a streaming cold at the moment, which DS has caught and has developed into a chest infection, so life is mainly feeding, and wiping noses, and changing nappies. Rock and roll.

isitme1 Sun 13-Oct-13 09:47:13

Lol. Luckily this time round new ds has no medical problems, he waa refluxy for the first 6 weeks but thats better now. Hes a lil chunky monkey! He was having 8oz of milk every 2 hours plus bm 4 times a day! So I decided to introduce a lil baby rice and he goes 4 hours now. I know its a lil early but he just would not settle!

This morning I had ds1 wake up for some donner hmm which is very unusual as he hardly eats and we don't have a lot of take aways but he remembered that! Hes in tears as we don't have any lol.
Ds2 has outgrown his 3-6months clothes so have got next batch in the wash saved ds1 clothes as I knew I wanted more

The tea party sounds like a great idea. For me its the other way round ds1 gets the attention due to health and ds2 is down all day. sad

Tom have you tried a lil gaviscon in feeds? Might help a lil. You can buy infant gaviscom for around £5 a box amd theres loads in it. I think its if baby is over 4kg or something along the lines of that.

And im another that loves doublw buggy. Ive got the hauck duett. Very handy
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MrsPennyapple Sun 13-Oct-13 10:53:14

I (modestly) thought the tea party was a stroke of genius smile I needed to go shopping, so told DD we were going to buy things for the tea party, which ensured good behaviour in the supermarket. (Although to be fair she's normally pretty good.) She also tends to mess about with her lunch and not eat it when she gets bored, so the tea party was a way of distracting her into eating it, really. And an excuse to eat cake, if I'm honest. grin

It sounds really difficult balancing your DSs needs, but it sounds like you're doing a great job.

isitme1 Sun 13-Oct-13 11:14:31

Lol. Mmm cake
Ds2 has a thing for little figures but as they are small they get lost easily so the other day he was eating popcorn out of a lil tub with a handle and ive stuck em in there. Keeps him occupied.
Like I said before its hard and I feel guilty ds2 doesn't get the time and is dragged to hospitals with ds1 exposing him to unnecessary infections but it can't be helped. If ds1 asks for food while Im feeding ds2 I have no choice but to stop feeding ds2 as ds1 has food aversion so him asking for something to eat is a big thing and if he doesn't get it he won't ask again and would rather go hungry.
Atm im feeding ds2 and ds1 has done a poo.
Again another problem as he suffers from chronic constipation due to gastric problems (currently undergoing tests for chrons) but ive managed to distract him for 2 mins while ds2 finishes bottle as he was very hungry
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I love the trolleys at supermarkets the ones that have a baby seat plus toddler! They both love them.
I did however have a bad time once when we rushed out and whe doing the shopping ds2 started screaming (ds1 was at nursery) I felt like all eyes were on me! In the end a guy who worked on a checkout came and rocked ds to sleep I could quickly pay. blush
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lovesteaandcake Sun 13-Oct-13 20:23:03

Can I join please. smile
I have DD1 who is 2.4 & DD2 who is 3 weeks old.
DD2 seems to feed a lot more then I remember DD1 doing, but then she is much bigger. I am breastfeeding but feel totally exhausted from all the feeds and the winding. They say BF babies shouldn't get wind, & I can't see how to stop it. I am using infacol & trying to make sure the latch is ok, but I'm just at a loss now.
Luckily DD1 is being quite good. I am also trying to get her involved with the care of her sister, and she seems obsessed with seeing if "baby has had a yellow poo" blush. She enjoys looking after her but hates the crying & shouts at her to go back to sleep.

My biggest problem is bedtimes. DP works in London & does not get home till 8pm or later. dD1 usually goes to bed between 7/8, but if DD2 is unsettled I just can't get her to bed, which is hard when I know she is so tired. Does anyone have any suggestions how I can manage this?

I'm finding that I'm just at home on my own most days and I'm so worried that I'm neglecting my eldest. I really like the picnic idea. I might steal that too!

I was very anxious about DP's return to work & everyone said you will get more organised. I'm sure that's true but it's not the practical advice I was after. I've surprised myself how ive managed so far, but I'm just so tired.

roweeena Sun 13-Oct-13 21:20:21

Hi lovestea I don't know that I have a solution as DH hasn't gone back to work yet but when he does I will have to do about 3 bedtimes per week on my own - and I'm dreading it!

My plan is to feed whilst DS1 is in the bath, I'm also going to buy a big bean bag so I can feed and read DS1 stories at the same time.

mumofboyo Sun 13-Oct-13 21:55:48

lovesteaandcake, does your dd 1 feed herself reliably? I'm just asking because you could use that to your advantage.
In the early days when I had to bathe both dc alone, I'd do the following routine:
Earlier in the day, get all the bathtime/nighttime stuff together (both nappies, bum and eczema creams, both sets of PhD) and take upstairs, open up the nappies, lay it all out ready for use. I'd do it when one or both dc were napping.
Take both upstairs, perhaps put baby in a cot/moses basket/bouncy chair and toddler helping fill the bath.
Bathe both dc together. Toddler can splash about and play with the toys, or even help wash baby, while you wash baby quickly.
Get baby out, dried, nappy on, creamed up and dressed in the bathroom if poss, or just at the bathroom door, whilst toddler still in the bath. Put baby in the nearby holding place (crying if needs be, unfortunately there will be times when you have to sort out your toddler and let your baby cry a while, more than you ever did with pfb) as you quickly wash toddler.
Get toddler dry, nappy on, cream on and dressed, then she walks/climbs downstairs whilst you carry baby down (sort out the bathroom bombsite later on).
Give toddler her supper and milk and simultaneously read her a story whilst feeding the baby.
Toddler in bed, then continue to feed and settle baby before putting her down.
Tidy bathroom, downstairs, get everything ready for morning, eat your own tea/supper and then collapse on the settee. Job done.

ElBombero Sun 13-Oct-13 22:00:21

Marking place have a 2.7yr old cheeky gorgeous DD and a 5 week old DS.

mumofboyo Sun 13-Oct-13 22:02:19

For PhD read pjs. Sorry!

ElBombero Sun 13-Oct-13 22:10:46

MrsPenny how cute, I'm going to do that with DD next week....

isitme1 Mon 14-Oct-13 01:14:50

Thats a very good routine for bathing both
Dh is useless with helping as hes on his feet all day. He will do more with eldest so I can get cracking with baby.
I have a small baby bath which I use in the bedroom while ds1 was occupied watching tv/ipad/helping me. Once baby was bathed I would give ds1 a shower amd then bed. Unfortunately if I read ds1 a story he gets too excited, doesn't fall asleep amd will not stop til ive readit ocover and over and over again!
I suppose our routine could be better but hey ho.

Ds1 still recovering from anesthetic and is still sick
And yep baby has to cry if im sorting ds1.
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Welcome to all newbies x

JollyScaryGiant Mon 14-Oct-13 01:27:51

Signing in!

DS is 2.6. DD is 7w.

PrincessRomy Mon 14-Oct-13 07:58:00

Hello!

I'm so nicking the tea party picnic idea for lunch today.

We've been up since half five, I've already done play dough, duplo and dd helping change ds. Succumbed to cbeebies for a little bit of rest!

Going to trek to the park later then come back for picnic lunch. Hopefully dd will nap after that.

It's after nap time I find it so hard to get motivated to do it all again in the afternoon.

lovesteaandcake Mon 14-Oct-13 09:33:46

Thanks mumofboyo. That sounds very organised. I'm slowly adjusting to doing things differently, & that sounds like a good idea. Letting DD2 cry is hard as like you say they just have to be left sometimes unlike when it was just me & DD1.

Bedtimes are hard because if one is crying, then the other one does too. It is hard at the moment because DD2 is still too young to be in any sort of feeding routine, so I can't plan anything. I just need to deal with whatever happens when I'm faced with it.

I did consider feeding DD2 whilst sitting in bed with DD1, but I appear to be totally useless at doing anything else whilst feeding. Maybe it's the positioning, but unless I'm surrounded by cushions, I don't seem to be able to hold DD for feeds.
I think I will contact my BF support team for advice. This also applies to feeding whilst out & about.

MiaowTheCat Mon 14-Oct-13 10:49:03

Bedtimes suck if I have to do it solo. Thankfully dd1 has always been good self settling so it's pop baby in cot temporarily and hope she zonks out which she does if you get the timing spot on, go settle dd1 quickly and return to sort out baby, keeping an eye on dd1 on the monitor. Until very recently dd2 had daytime naps in a travel cot in the lounge as supervising the toddler while settling her was impossible solo, but now she's that bit older and will egg dd1 on giggling at daftness its really no longer a goer unless its toddler nap time as well, so I have to pop TV on to keep toddler in a holding pattern and keep running up and downstairs between the two. I counted on Friday and it was 27 times by lunchtime.

Trying to get the pair of them to start to room share which is not going well. Dd2 still wakes up and disturbs dd1 and then they feed off each other with giggling and dd1 arsing about showing off. Realistically I just need to grit teeth and ride that one out but not there yet so this weeks were back in separate rooms for daytime naps again and then I'll retry daytime naps first.

princessx Mon 14-Oct-13 14:34:52

Hi all, I have a 2.5dd and a 9mrh baby and things are great! Possibly viewing things through rose-tinted glasses as about to go back to work and send them into daycare (breaking my heart)
I have actually only just started going to play groups now as it was too hard when the baby was younger.

tinytumble Mon 14-Oct-13 14:51:57

Can I join? Have a 23mo DS1 & a 12wo DS2. Today has been a screamfest, have given in to bloody peppa pig yet again while I express some milk but going to go and jump in some muddy puddles ourselves I think. Need to be out of the house! Anyone else feel this weird almost-manic sense that you never stop moving?

MrsPennyapple Mon 14-Oct-13 20:33:00

Thanks for the tips on doing bedtime on your own. I haven't had to do it by myself yet, but sooner or later I'll need to, and I had been wondering how to tackle it. DS isn't really in a bedtime routine yet, he still sleeps in his bouncy chair for a while before being taken upstairs when we go to bed. I keep thinking we need to get some kind of structure in place.

We went to mums & tots this morning, that took us up to lunch time, then DD watched some CBeebies, and then we played with plasticine. The only housework I got done was vacuuming the living room and washing & drying one load of laundry.

tinytumble Mon 14-Oct-13 21:35:56

I did solo bedtime today & always feel so guilty that neither of them get full attention and both have their routines curtailed - DS1 gets thrown in the bath and extracted 5 mins later, DS2 has to wait for his feed until DS1 settled in bed. Both were down by 7.30, which was a relief, but the guilt still niggles. Ah, the guilt...

SingSoftKittyToMe Tue 15-Oct-13 02:14:58

23 mmth old and 7 week old. Managed the library yoday and not much else. Every day is a struggle atm.

GreenSunrise Tue 15-Oct-13 03:17:00

Watching with interest for lots of tips. I have a 2.5 year old D S and a 2 day old D D - got out of hospital this evening and she has been cluster feeding since we got home. D H is on paternity leave, my mum is here for a few days to help out and tomorrow is one of D S's nursery days so I realise that I will have a gentle introduction to the toddler and baby situation and I expect it to get a lot more challenging in the next few weeks!

MiaowTheCat Tue 15-Oct-13 07:38:08

The bit I hold onto is that to everyone else you look like superwoman whenever you make it out of the house with a small age gap. They don't see the fact it's taken you an hour to get sorted to walk down the street or the chaos of bedtimes, they're just thinking how blooming good you are and that they couldn't cope with it!

Finally got dd2 to sleep 6-6 last night without her 3am cot party so I'm feeling masses better for a solid block of sleep. If she keeps it up we can think about getting them roomed in together, which dh is going to take time off work to help me sort out.

MrsPennyapple Tue 15-Oct-13 10:10:21

Exactly, Miaow. Noone needs to know that I had to unlock the house and go back inside THREE TIMES to get things I'd forgotten.

I went round to a friend's house one night last week, and baked some cupcakes to take with me - she called me supermum, and said how amazing it was that I had found time to bake, with a toddler and a newborn! She hasn't seen the state of the house. I also have a very helpful DH, which I know is not the case for everyone.

isitme1 Thu 17-Oct-13 04:11:01

The trick that I use is make sure they have had their feeds. Well at least the baby. Ds1 I can pop his feed on while out ans about. Ds2 sleeps for around 4-5hourswhile in the pram and by that time im home again.

Bedtime was hard last night as ds2 was quite sickly. He was sick a lot after feeds but not full feeds but last 2feeds that I gave were full. On top kf that ds1 needed changing, sick needee cleaning, ds1 milk making and putting on, ds2 clothes changing....

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MadameJ Fri 18-Oct-13 08:25:19

Can I join please, I have dd1 (2.8y) & 16 week dd. It was going really well but dd1 has croup and dd2 has hit the 4 month sleep regression with a bang and waking 4/5 times per night and obviously dd1 has being up loads coughing so I'm shattered. I massively struggle with bedtime as dd2 cluster feeds and dd1 likes me to do stories/bedtime so it is very stressful!

MrsPennyapple Fri 18-Oct-13 22:34:35

Welcome MadameJ, sorry to hear your DD1 is poorly, hope she is better soon and you get a better night's sleep tonight.

My day has been ok today, I took DD to feed the ducks this morning, and then this afternoon we went to meet a friend for coffee.

DH has promised to get up with DS (10 weeks old) in the morning so I can have a lie in. I'm almost giddy at the thought!

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