Waking hourly at 6 months

(61 Posts)
joosiewoosie Sun 06-Jan-13 00:33:15

Hi all. My dd is almost 6m old and after recent teething ( now has 2 sprouting through the bottom gum), is continuing to wake hourly almost at night. As soon as she's picked up she relaxes and cuddles in, but as soon as we put her down again, she wakes again and refuses to sleep in her cot. She's been sleeping on us for much of the night for a couple of weeks now. I'm shattered and just need sleep!

I'm exclusively bf, but dd is now on 2 puréed 'meals' a day, plus all usual bfs, with the last solid no later than 5.30pm. I haven't a clue what's going in but feel like I need to tie a knot at the end of my tether and hang on!

DH is excellent in the day and does try hard to help at night but is so sleepy it's hard for him. I just snapped his head off for snoring as I've had 30 mins sleep since we cane to bed and just as I return from the 'go to sleep in your own cot' challenge number 1 of the night, he's snoring his head off, which is making me jealous and cross, and now I can't sleep! Grrrrrr!
Any ideas? If not, any words of wisdom to see me through? Thanks in advance x

CabbageLooking Sun 06-Jan-13 00:43:39

Just to let you know that I'm sat here with a squealing 6 month old myself. He was sleeping through but since starting weaning 3 days ago he seems to be waking constantly. No advice I'm afraid but you're not alone.

nannyof3 Sun 06-Jan-13 00:50:27

Look into control crying

CabbageLooking Sun 06-Jan-13 01:47:54

Incidentally has she ever slept through the night?

Tolly81 Sun 06-Jan-13 05:32:46

I've had two major sleep regressions with my nearly 8 month old. She didn't settle down from teething until the teeth were completely past the gum line so if they aren't then its probably still that. Give her ibuprofen rather than calpol after bedtime bottle as it lasts longer. Please don't do controlled crying with a teething baby - it will just make her far worse and it is not recommended when there are other issues causing the sleep problems. What was her sleep like before this? What time do you try and put her to bed? A very exaggerated bedtime routine with everything the same every night and no stimulation can help. She's also at an age where a comforter might help - does she have a favourite teddy she can go to sleep with?

joosiewoosie Sun 06-Jan-13 12:38:09

She's never been a brill sleeper but has slept in her cot between feeds for most of the night before. Now, after her first 2 hours, she wakes and will cry and winge til we pick her up. I tried crying if out last night, but I can't do it. After a few mins she for herself in such a state it took ages to calm her. She came into bed and laid on me from 1.15 til morning. Not much fun really. :-(
Her bedtime routine us excellent and usually goes down well for the first bit. It's just the wake ups after that that cause the issues.

joosiewoosie Sun 06-Jan-13 12:39:36

And cabbage...I feel your pain! X

CabbageLooking Sun 06-Jan-13 14:01:55

Hope you got some rest in the end Joosie. My DS used to go down well then sleep until about 3/4am then take an age to settle back down. At around 5 months he had 3 really awful nights where he seemed to be up every hour and then all of a sudden he switched to sleeping 7pm-7am for no reason whatsoever. I'd love to claim I did something clever to make that happen (if I had, I'd do it again now so he'd go back to normal!) but it seems he was just developing and resetting his own patterns. My DS is formula fed so I can't really suggest anything for you I'm afraid.

I have everything crossed that we both have a less interrupted night tonight. smile

joosiewoosie Sun 06-Jan-13 15:34:41

Thanks Cabbage. I hope that's what's happening here too. Fingers crossed for a good night for us all tonight x

melonribena Mon 07-Jan-13 12:12:30

I have nothing to add except sympathy! My 5.5 mth old is exactly the same!

dibsmum Mon 07-Jan-13 12:31:08

my 7 month old sleeps fine at night but in the morning if she wakes early she comes into our bed, I feed her with us both lying on our side in the bed and then we both doze off. I have my arm round her so she doesn't wander off. I just wondered if this might work for you with baby lay beside you rather than on you so you can both get some sleep? I hope things get better soon.

joosiewoosie Mon 07-Jan-13 19:44:11

Thanks dibs. My DH is 6 ft 5 and had incredibly long arms and has been known to have accidentally elbow me in the face on occasion! I don't think he'd trust himself having DD between us! Nice idea though. When dd wakes up around 5/5.30 she just wants to play and shout anyway. There's no persuading her to sleep longer if she's decided she wants awake! Fun, fun, fun! :-)

Loislane78 Mon 07-Jan-13 20:10:12

Same here too sad 21 wks BF.

At 9 weeks was doing 2 feeds a night, by 12 it was occasionally just one but since the 4 month sleep regression (plus recent cold, conjunctivitis and Christmas disruption) we're on 3 feeds a night plus random other wakings.

Goes to sleep at bedtime no prob but after the 1am waking doesn't like being in cot and she used to be fine - arrrggghhhh!!! Feeling way more tired than I did when she was a newborn.

When shall this pass [pleading face]

joosiewoosie Mon 07-Jan-13 20:38:04

And melon, although I'm sorry that you are having the same, it is nice to know its not just me or something I'm doing/not doing. Roll on the next positive change in sleep pattern!

joosiewoosie Mon 07-Jan-13 20:39:58

Lois, I'm hoping it will soon pass for us all! Sometimes, hope is a nice place to live :-)

joosiewoosie Tue 08-Jan-13 07:12:51

Well, I'm truly flummoxed. Night before last, DD would only sleep if in me, last night she went down in her own cot at 7.45 ish and only woke twice at 12.15 and 3.15! Slept on DH from 4.45 to 5.45 but a brill night comparitively. Proof that she's in charge of sleep or not, if ever I saw it! Weird. But good :-)

Loislane78 Tue 08-Jan-13 08:04:11

Keeping to torch of hope alive joosie!

KatAndKit Tue 08-Jan-13 13:32:13

Co sleep! I'm not fond of it but I wouldn't have got through last few months without cosleeping for part of the night most nights. Don't put the baby between the two of you, that isn't safe. Put a bed guard up on your side of the bed and put the baby next to it.
Alternatively will the cot fit in your room next to your bed - perhaps just being close by would be enough?

melonribena Tue 08-Jan-13 19:32:18

Wonderful news Joosie! Long may it continue! The last three nights we've only had three wakeings a night so am hopeful too!

Loislane78 Tue 08-Jan-13 19:53:07

Yeah, we're having to co-sleep part of the night now. I don't really sleep but at least lying down you get some 'rest', only way sometimes as you say.

JiltedJohnsJulie Tue 08-Jan-13 20:25:03

Is she getting enough feeds in the day or could she be hungry and trying to make up for it at night, try googling kellymom reverse cycling 6 months is also a major growth spurt so could it just be that?

If you haven't got the heart for cc, and I never did, especially with one so young, have a read of 31 ways to get your baby to sleep and 12 alternatives for the all night nurser. Have you read the No Cry Sleep Solution too?

mamacoffee Tue 08-Jan-13 21:01:40

I had one of those kind of sleepers 2 yearsago... He now wakes up once a night most nights, so we're proof it will get better! With dc2 who is 6.5m I decided to learn from my experience and co sleep from the start, it has made life sooooo much easier!

joosiewoosie Wed 09-Jan-13 06:00:20

Thanks all. Will look up those books jilted. Last night was a 6 wake up night. No rhyme or reason...I don't understand. She's eating loads in the day and wanting to be with me and breast all night too. She's such a puzzle, especially on v little sleep!

belindarose Wed 09-Jan-13 06:17:08

My 6 mo is waking very frequently too, OP, although he does (usually!) go back to sleep after a BF or just a cuddle if that's all he wants. He's never slept all night (apart from a few times around 6 weeks) and wakings are generally 1 or 2 hourly. I'd love a stretch of 3 hours at a time now!

The only thing that helps me cope is to get up with him when he wakes at 5am ish (with no chance of going back to sleep!) and let DH sleep. Then I go back to bed for an hour while he gets up with DD and has them both till he leaves for work. That hour of peace and no responsibility really helps me!

JiltedJohnsJulie Wed 09-Jan-13 11:57:10

Are you bfing before solids? If not she may be hungry.

custardpies Wed 09-Jan-13 12:03:19

Same here, except mine is 18 months old. shock Not much help, am I?

JiltedJohnsJulie Wed 09-Jan-13 12:04:16

Custard is it the 18 month sleep regression or an ongoing thing?

Loislane78 Wed 09-Jan-13 15:20:02

My HV thinks I'm not allowing DD to learn to self settle as I'm intervening too quickly, which is a little true perhaps, so has come reliant going to sleep on me. I'm trying to avoid any crying and maybe noise for my DP and she slept great when she was younger so wasn't an issue.

So last night I thought I'd see what happens if I didn't pick up at every waking or bring into our bed.

Surprisingly I only had to pick up for 2 feeds (obviously!) plus one other. The other times I popped dummy in, Ewan the Sheep on, rhythmically said shhh whilst having hand on chest and she settled reasonably quickly so some progress.

Still woke every 1-1.5 hours after the 1.30 feed though. At 6 she started babbling and i was too tired so left her - she went to sleep for another hour!

Think tonight I'll try the same but leave it an extra minute or two before intervening and gradually make the gaps longer.

NB, she is not actually crying (pls don't think i'm doing CC on 5 mo old) - its a shouty whine.

Will let you know how I go, assuming I have the stamina for it!

joosiewoosie Wed 09-Jan-13 19:28:33

I may suggest that one to DH belinda... It might work.
Jilted, I bf at 4.15 til 4.35 today and then she had 4 cubed of puréed veg at 5.30 and nighttime bf after bath and lullabies now, at 7.20. I really have no idea what's what here. She surely can't be hungry on all that lot!

joosiewoosie Wed 09-Jan-13 19:32:49

Sounds tough Lois. I let DD self settle on the car as that's all I can do, but find it really hard at night, even though its mostly only whinging rather than crying. Good luck Lois. Maybe I need to try it a bit too. Oh, I don't know...(sigh)

Tolly81 Wed 09-Jan-13 19:48:18

I found that sometimes my dd would self-settle if she was whingeing rather than crying, and it did help her wake up a little less. Sometimes with a sleep regression there's no rhyme or reason to anything - but hopefully that is what it is and will be over soon. Perhaps it is a growth spurt with her eating so much? Anyhow good luck for tonight.

NeedlesCuties Wed 09-Jan-13 20:03:17

My 19 week old DD is the same.

We're changing her from her crib to her cot tonight - crib is too small and she hits her hands on the bars and wakens herself. I am praying that the cot will be the cure we need.

Am loathe to let her cry to self-settle as 3 year old DS is a light sleeper and I'm scared of her waking him up... once he's awake then we're all awake as he's a nightmare to settle.

"This too shall pass, this too shall pass...."

I hope!

joosiewoosie Wed 09-Jan-13 20:34:04

Needles, we moved DD from crib in our room to cot bed in her own room at 4 months for the same reason. It I'd help briefly. Good luck!
Thanks all for good wishes! Perhaps it'll pass by itself soon...who knows?

joosiewoosie Thu 10-Jan-13 15:23:09

Yet another awful night :-( .....all things shall pass, all things shall pass!

Loislane78 Thu 10-Jan-13 16:27:24

That sucks joosie sad Just be careful when you're really tired as I hurt myself yesterday in a comatosed state and also spilled my treat half glass of red wine everywhere

We had a slightly better night. I gave some teething powder before bed so not sure if it was that or not. Is your LO teething as well?

Here's to some zzzzz's! wine

joosiewoosie Thu 10-Jan-13 19:27:43

Good news for you Lois. Don't waste that wine though! My LO has got her two first teeth through now, so I don't think she's teething. She's being v fussy at solid times now though too. She shovelled it down when we starts weaning in the week before Xmas. I have no clue what's occurring with her. She's my little mystery. Fingers x for zzzzzzz for all tonight! X

joosiewoosie Thu 10-Jan-13 19:28:54

Needles, how did your LO do in the cot?

NeedlesCuties Fri 11-Jan-13 09:23:52

Hi, Joosie, thanks for asking.

She got on ok in the cot.... well, the first night she spent only 20 mins there, the rest of the time she was attached to my boob in my bed grin

Last night she spent about 5 hours of the night in the cot. Defo an improvement!

She's actually just woke up now (9:20am) so she's had a nice lie-in, give me some time to get stuck into housework.

joosiewoosie Fri 11-Jan-13 19:27:51

Great news Needles! Onwards and upwards! (Although I think you are mad about the housework....in sleep deprived times, a lie in would be my first priority!) x

joosiewoosie Sat 12-Jan-13 02:05:06

Seriously, I think DDs non-sleeping patterns are making me nocturnal! Too whit too whoo! (....and delerious!)

NeedlesCuties Sat 12-Jan-13 07:14:25

Joosie don't you worry, I'm not totally mad...

I was up early yesterday morning with 3 yr old DS, getting him ready for playgroup, so the housework was just a part of my normal routine.

A lie-in was possible when I only had one child >wistful sigh about lie-in's<

I really think your DD will improve a lot once those teeth are through, I think the first 2 are the hardest.

Loislane78 Sat 12-Jan-13 09:04:56

Teething is the work of the devil sad

Another restless night here, only fed twice so I know its not hunger and just wants cuddles for soothing as she's in pain. In some ways makes me feel better as hopefully once the first one comes through she might settle a bit and perhaps its not just a major sleep regression (hopes!).

Hope you got some rest last night ladies, although by the time of your post joosie I'm thinking not confused

joosiewoosie Sat 12-Jan-13 09:40:58

I've had a lie in thanks to DH this morning but I needed it....:
*11.45 feed til 12.10 ; (i went to sleep at 10.45= 1 hours sleep for me)
*1.40 woke and held until finally went down without waking at 2.00 (=1.5 hours sleep for me from 12.15-1.40)
*2.40 wake and feed (30 mins sleep for me) til fell asleep on me at 2.55
*Woke fidgeting and moaning at 4.00. (1 hours sleep for me). Given to Dad . Continued to moan until booby and doze again 4.40, given back to Dad.(1 hours sleep)
*Woke up and cried for 10 mins at 5.50 wanting to sit up and play. Daddy took downstairs. (1.5 hours sleep)
*Fed booby at 7.30 and Daddy took shopping at 7.50. Came back at 9.00.

Apologies if this is muddled as it is compiled as we go during the night. Thank goodness for weekends when DH can have her for a bit so I can catch up. Otherwise, I would be such a zombie, and dangerous, I think!

Her teeth are well through now. I hope she hurries and settles soon!

joosiewoosie Sun 13-Jan-13 10:06:09

I hope you are all having better sleep than us! My DD is SO worth the sleep deprivation but wonder if I'm making it harder for myself for some way, or whether just to resign myself to the fact that this is how it is? Happy weekend all.

Loislane78 Sun 13-Jan-13 11:07:00

Hey joosie I know what you mean - resignation of 'she's going to wake up anyway' has helped me but sometimes I do wonder if I'm making it more difficult for myself.

When I see friends from NCT/others, all of them who formula feed are getting good nights and those who BF generally aren't. A few also started to wean early and I'm thinking why am I not doing that!! I know lots of anecdotes does not equal data but sure seems the case with people I know.

You're passed the weaning/teething stage so don't know what I'll pin my hopes to when that's us.

Good job they're cute as you say smile Have a nice day brew

claudiebelle Sun 13-Jan-13 12:52:39

I don't think it's as simple as that with regards to feeding, loislane. I formula feed and my ds is waking every hour still at 7 months. I have friends who bf their similar aged babies who are getting more sleep! I think it depends far more on the baby than what they're being fed.

claudiebelle Sun 13-Jan-13 13:02:00

Ps sorry if that sounded a bit abrupt. Sleep deprivation at its finest!

stargirl1701 Sun 13-Jan-13 13:20:34

Co-sleep. I don't think you have many other options tbh.

Loislane78 Sun 13-Jan-13 16:18:15

I know that's probably not true claudie, and agree it depends on the baby; can just seem like what every else is doing seems to work out better sometimes!

Don't wish sleep deprivation on anyone; at least I know I'm not alone on MN smile

joosiewoosie Sun 13-Jan-13 20:37:27

True, Lois, it is nice to know its not just me! I read some stuff today about putting her down awake. Apparently, she's associating being nursed/cuddled with her only way to get to sleep, so is needing that if she wakes in the night. I can understand that as usually, 9 times out of 10, she's asleep when I put her down for the night first of all. She must wonder where she is and feel she needs me more than she really does.

So tonight, I tried putting her down half awake, while giving her 1 boob rather than both. It didn't go down too well! She fussed and moaned and escalated to crying. Me and DH went in every 5 mins to touch her, kiss her (while really checking she's ok), say goodnight and leave again. It took her about 15 mins to go off. We've agreed that I will feed her if she wakes up when we go up at 10ish ( as she sometimes does), and at 1ish and 4ish, but then we will do the 5 minute returning and checking all other times. Our gorgeous girl is 6 months old today, so has come of age now!
I'm hoping she doesn't do heart wrenching cries and just settles well between feeds, but lets see....

joosiewoosie Mon 14-Jan-13 08:18:01

It was not bad at all....a shaft of light in the darkness! She woke at 10, 12.30 and 3, almost as predicted. She went down without a fuss after feeding too. She also woke at 5 wanting to be awake for the day, so DH brought her in to snuggle with him for an hour before he gets up for work. The going to bed awake was the hardest bit for her last night but we are going to persevere for the week to see if last nights more settled behaviour was a fluke or not! I hope that this is the turning point!
Hope everyone else is getting some zzzzzzzz!

Lonelybunny Mon 14-Jan-13 21:14:59

Same same same ! 5.5 month old here and since the 07 December it all went wrong ! Up many times at night. I must say half the time I fall asleep and forget and wake up and she is still there. I too tell at my DP for snoring ! And the annoying thing is she can sleep for up to 3 hours but I can't sleep I'm laying there waiting for her to wake up sad

wiltingfast Mon 14-Jan-13 22:40:28

If she's teething, would you not give her some calpol before she goes to bed? Our dd def felt the teeth way more at night and it helped her get a good stretch of sleep (and us too!)

joosiewoosie Tue 15-Jan-13 07:12:25

Lonely, I know what you mean when you fall asleep (sitting up usually) while feeding and then forget she's still there! So many times I've woken in that position because I've been dreaming!

We had another breakthrough night last night I think. Woke at 11.30, so fed. Then went back with no problems. Fed again at 2 ish (although not very much or strongly, so I might try and drop that feed tonight). Then she had a whinging wake up and I did the 'go in, kiss her, say goodnight and leave' technique, and she went back to sleep within 5 mins :-) then a feed at 5, one whinge session just after, but she went back down a treat after the technique til 6, when she heard Daddy's alarm go off. Yay!

Just posting today because I said I would, to say thanks for all your support and to share a shaft of light at the end of the tunnel for those in the tunnel still. Hang on in there! X fingers crossed it keeps getting better for us all! X

noblegiraffe Tue 15-Jan-13 07:30:34

When you go in at 10 (why do you go in at 10?) try a dream feed - it might put off one of the later wakings?

I would also suggest co-sleeping if your plan doesn't work. My DS continued to wake up regularly whatever we did and after I started to fall asleep when feeding him I realised it was safer if I did it planned in a safe environment.

joosiewoosie Tue 15-Jan-13 19:31:13

I do do a dream feed if she wakes up when we go up to bed around 10, but ahe doesn't always wake up then. Sometimes it's a bit later, and I'm not going to wake her to feed when she is finally sleeping.

I will try and drop the middle feed if the 3 tonight though. Her suckling was so weak last night it was hardly worth it and I think it was a comfort snuggle really.

She went down partially awake with the smallest of peeps tonight, so I'm keeping all crossed that we may have cracked it (for the moment anyway!)

noblegiraffe Tue 15-Jan-13 19:40:44

A dream feed is where you feed them without waking, you rub your nipple against their mouth and they latch on in their sleep (sounds bonkers but it does work!) and hopefully this fills them up enough to avoid waking later on. This might get rid of the middle feed?

joosiewoosie Wed 16-Jan-13 01:53:34

Oh ok. She's having trouble skipping the middle feed tonight. May try that another night.
She woke at 1 and has been whinging since. We've been on every 5 mins and I think she dropped off for 10 at 1.30 but just woke again. This is not easy, but we are persevering as she sounds like she's making sleepy noises.
Update to follow tomorrow. Thanks all for ideas.

joosiewoosie Fri 18-Jan-13 02:14:27

The dream feed did not help :-( She's now been whinging for an hour and the method is not working. I've heard that they can relapse after 5 days, but am finding it hard to stay strong!

APipkinOfPepper Fri 18-Jan-13 04:11:59

I also have a wakeful 6 month old! Sounds like we are doing similar joosie trying to get her to self settle in the evening. I feed her though until she is just dropping off asleep, then take her off and put her in her cot - she usually protests, so I pick her up and let her suck for a few seconds & try again (and again and again some nights!).

It started working for us, she did a couple of nights where she was staying asleep 6 hours before waking, and then a few weeks ago she got a cold, and was coughing herself awake. She's taken ages to get rid of it, but now the coughing is finally going - but she's still waking up every 1-2 hours!! I am going to try again, hopefully with the same success. Hope you have had a better night.

Loislane78 Fri 18-Jan-13 09:58:45

Same here last night, i've got a terrible cold and DD started with a little cough as well as teething pain so she came in took over our bed, and slept like a proverbial baby with 5 hrs between 1 feed. Not that i slept much between her and DP.

We were doing well for a couple of nights on the # of wake ups and a bit of self settling. Ah well smile Hoping to get out for 30 mins this morning before the snow arrives!!!

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